TikTok sues Montana over ban

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TikTok sued Montana on Monday, saying the state’s new law banning the app statewide would violate Americans’ First Amendment right to free expression. Meanwhile, the European Union fined Meta a record $1.3 billion after finding the Facebook parent broke its privacy laws by transferring user data from Europe to the United States. #Montana #TikTokBan #Meta #shorts

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@mariosin3256
@mariosin3256 Жыл бұрын
The “what?” got me
@juliec9
@juliec9 Жыл бұрын
The feds harvest your information too 🤫
@dreamerdon6021
@dreamerdon6021 Жыл бұрын
Same
@GameristicForce
@GameristicForce Жыл бұрын
No more 911 likes but one reply! ;)
@LostieTrekieTechie
@LostieTrekieTechie Жыл бұрын
It's a real joke because 1.3 million is a record-breaking number for this kind of fine but it is still a fraction of a fraction of their revenue.
@rexex345
@rexex345 Жыл бұрын
​@@LostieTrekieTechie billion, not million, there's a big difference there.
@eos_aurora
@eos_aurora Жыл бұрын
Not the “my fellow Montanans”, literally every Montana politician ever haha
@Ascentril
@Ascentril Жыл бұрын
There’s so few of us (especially on the Eastern Montana side) that they have to make sure to summon us from the perpetually abandoned buildings to make sure we hear them out.
@paxthehedgehog7760
@paxthehedgehog7760 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ascentril it is such a rare sight to see someone else from eastern Montana.
@tibbygaycat
@tibbygaycat Жыл бұрын
​@@Ascentrilomg I never thought I'd speak to a real life cryptid... what's it like?
@stygianrooster2993
@stygianrooster2993 Жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like "my fellow americans"
@noahisamathnerd
@noahisamathnerd Жыл бұрын
@@Ascentrilme living in Great Falls 👀
@bananabanana484
@bananabanana484 Жыл бұрын
What’s frustrating is that there are REAL, LEGITIMATE problems with TikTok. They just happen to be problems with every social media app. Targeting TikTok specifically is a scapegoat
@dearleader7623
@dearleader7623 Жыл бұрын
Too convenient a scapegoat when we got accusations of TikTok being a Chinese front. I personally believe that government officials should be banned (and federal officials already are) from social media for security sake. As much as I also believe that TikTok is a horrible platform, its stupid to move forward with the plan to ban it from the general public because the precedent of this can lead to banning much more of the internet at Republican administrators' pleasure.
@ifucturmotha6692
@ifucturmotha6692 Жыл бұрын
Hardly....have you read tiktoks TOS? Of course you haven't, which is why you're saying this. Its by far the most insanely invasive app ever
@julesking1303
@julesking1303 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@ifucturmotha6692 Facebook targets user data so thoroughly that it recommends baby product ads to women before they even know they’re pregnant. and you don’t even know the difference between TOS and TSA. I assume you meant the “Terms of Service”
@carrotcake6572
@carrotcake6572 Жыл бұрын
@@ifucturmotha6692 please quote for us
@ifucturmotha6692
@ifucturmotha6692 Жыл бұрын
@@julesking1303 shit yea it was supposed to be TOS .....stupid ass autocorrect, but no tiktok is way more invasive. Check the tos for yourself
@diamondspeek
@diamondspeek Жыл бұрын
There are five content creators in Montana? Isn't that like a whole fifth of their population?
@arby327
@arby327 Жыл бұрын
More like 1/3rd of their population
@Beethovens.diving-gear
@Beethovens.diving-gear Жыл бұрын
You mean all of their population
@Jinx1927
@Jinx1927 Жыл бұрын
There's actually a decent amount of people within Montana, and there's a surprisingly good amount of people who use tik tok on the daily.
@atm1947
@atm1947 Жыл бұрын
@@Jinx1927 no there aren’t bro, we live in state with 6 people per square mile.
@dennile_7355
@dennile_7355 Жыл бұрын
Its literally just the Green bros
@Dr._Elysium295
@Dr._Elysium295 Жыл бұрын
"wait TikTok is spying on us?" yep and so is basically everything with an OS.
@user-xe5dk4qr9r
@user-xe5dk4qr9r Жыл бұрын
I agree that most of FAANG products are very disrespectful of user privacy, however I would also argue against this as firstly you haven't provided evidence to support this claim, and secondly (assuming you are insinuating that the OS is the one spying on the user) Windows 10 is a relatively good in terms of respecting privacy as long as you don't use Microsoft Edge and deactivate telemetry data when using VScode However I believe that in regards to telemetry, it should be off by default, and if you provide a more compelling argument, I will be inclined to agree with you.
@mrdiamond64
@mrdiamond64 Жыл бұрын
Linux: I beg to differ
@masterbaiter0fthebait572
@masterbaiter0fthebait572 Жыл бұрын
​@@user-xe5dk4qr9r Bing chilling
@nemo-x
@nemo-x Жыл бұрын
Except those things aren't controlled by a government that's making live fire drills about obliterating your military.
@Diviance
@Diviance Жыл бұрын
@@mrdiamond64 ...Linux _is_ the OS, it is not something _with_ an OS. Ok, technically Linux is the kernel, but nobody realistically makes that distinction in real world usage.
@AnCoilean
@AnCoilean Жыл бұрын
Correction it's the Irish government that found Meta broke EU DP law. The next step is Meta to challenge this in the Irish courts and potentially the ECJ.
@flemmingpedersen567
@flemmingpedersen567 Жыл бұрын
Americans can't tell the difference between a country, the continent or the union - if there is a country that has one specific law they always go: "In Europe it's illegal to ride two people on a moped" 🙄
@jarlathquinn2628
@jarlathquinn2628 Жыл бұрын
Ah it’s great to be the chads yet again
@kerchtrucking
@kerchtrucking Жыл бұрын
we just keep winning
@LosianOne
@LosianOne Жыл бұрын
The Washington post doesn't operate on facts so don't correct them.
@danieldeburgh8437
@danieldeburgh8437 Жыл бұрын
Apple also pay for the education budget of Irish state!
@moshimeshowu747
@moshimeshowu747 Жыл бұрын
Is tiktok a scapegoat or something??
@darkstalkerknight63
@darkstalkerknight63 Жыл бұрын
Did you just catch on?
@jonathanserrano825
@jonathanserrano825 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty sure other social media companies are lobbying money secretly to get it banned because they find it hard to compete with tiktok
@MysteryGeek2006
@MysteryGeek2006 Жыл бұрын
At this point yes
@wack9175
@wack9175 Жыл бұрын
Yes 🌝
@elusiveshadow5848
@elusiveshadow5848 Жыл бұрын
yes, just read the bill that was proposed to ban tiktok. it has little to do with saving from data leaks and more about letting government controll it all
@crochet_silliez
@crochet_silliez Жыл бұрын
some ppl: “but tiktok is listening to us” you ever wonder why your alexa turns on when you say “hey alexa” or siri turns on when you say “hey siri”?
@teinmeizeshi5209
@teinmeizeshi5209 Жыл бұрын
I like how EU literally makes public how to properly deal with most of these problems and yet, US and state governments refuse to learn.
@userunknown7675
@userunknown7675 Жыл бұрын
They, simply make laws that state: we want you to this and not that in order to protect our citizens. Don't do it and you'll figure out that we actually have agencies that have teeth.
@JackedSchoomves
@JackedSchoomves Жыл бұрын
They are incompetent when it comes to this stuff. Look at the trial of Mark Zuckerberg. Some of the questions they asked weren’t even reasonable questions nor did they make sense. The USA will fall due to ineptitude of growing and learning with the times.
@ramabg2
@ramabg2 Жыл бұрын
In well function democratic country, you can be sued or fined if you violate people right. Keep in mind you cannot do this in dictatorship country.
@ItsDaKoolaidDude
@ItsDaKoolaidDude Жыл бұрын
We aren't a democratic country, nor a well functioning country.
@sniperplays6616
@sniperplays6616 Жыл бұрын
Do you have evidence? Tik tok terms of service: Nothing to see here
@stellaleicht4035
@stellaleicht4035 Жыл бұрын
Is tiktok spying on you? Yes, so does literally every other social media Is China using tiktok to spy on you? There is no evidence Everything tiktok + china does is also done facebook + the US
@tright6
@tright6 Жыл бұрын
Just because the terms of service say it doesn’t mean they’re actively doing it. Apple prohibits the use of their tech for nuclear weapons, does that mean people actually uses their tech for nuclear weapons? No.
@user-xe5dk4qr9r
@user-xe5dk4qr9r Жыл бұрын
​@@tright6 Using a user restriction as evidence for an apps Potential Privacy Violation is inappropriate as an argument, apple is talking about what their Users Can't Do, tiktok is talking about what They Can Do, secondly you are incorrect when you say "it doesn’t mean they’re actively doing it" because according to the TikTok privacy policy "We automatically collect certain information from you when you use the Platform, including internet or other network activity information such as your IP address, geolocation-related data, unique device identifiers, browsing and search history (including content you have viewed in the Platform), and Cookies" which you can view for yourself on their site
@pedromoura1446
@pedromoura1446 Жыл бұрын
​@@tright6 if they did I'd be much more worried about nuclear war...
@ygx6
@ygx6 Жыл бұрын
Meta terms of service: same here!
@Senerski
@Senerski Жыл бұрын
Idc if tiktok spies on people or not, if it gets banned there's a chance the attention span of people won't be 3s Forget the website im watching this on though
@whenimmanicimgodly4228
@whenimmanicimgodly4228 Жыл бұрын
youtube shorts is good for advertising snd diverting people to long form content, tiktok sucks people in and gets then addicted to shoot form content they are not the same
@origamipanda5970
@origamipanda5970 Жыл бұрын
@@whenimmanicimgodly4228 Not in my case, I just use tiktok to get content that is produced by ppl only on tiktok i.e. they only post on tiktok and have no long form or yt shorts content.
@BilalKhan-kv7ti
@BilalKhan-kv7ti Жыл бұрын
Personally, I just think it's full of bad trends and bad advice
@nicmalugin9287
@nicmalugin9287 Жыл бұрын
@@BilalKhan-kv7tiyea it is the reason I like KZbin short is that you can see creators that you never seen and then watch there long form videos if your interested so for shorts it’s sorta like a trailer of a movie
@Dr._Elysium295
@Dr._Elysium295 Жыл бұрын
The thing is TikTok IS spying on you, it's just that so is basically all modern tech companies.
@KA-zv3yt
@KA-zv3yt Жыл бұрын
1.3 billion to meta is the equivalent of me buying a hot dog at the gas station
@nickel2874
@nickel2874 Жыл бұрын
The point is that if meta doesn’t stop it, they metaphorical have to pay for a hotdog every 10 minutes.
@egal1780
@egal1780 Жыл бұрын
Ah, Meta isn't going to Care for that small fine
@annuitcoeptis9997
@annuitcoeptis9997 Жыл бұрын
Thats around 5% of their US profits. It's not gonna hurt them, but they are gonna notice it. But your right Meta should be forcibly dissolved by now, not fined.
@egal1780
@egal1780 Жыл бұрын
@@annuitcoeptis9997 okay, maybe that's a Bit extreme. I mean before that you'd Block aquisitions and you'd Look for clearly monopolistic Actions.
@handson4580
@handson4580 Жыл бұрын
1.3 billion is NOTHING this is just a demand for a peice of the pie
@wave81210
@wave81210 Жыл бұрын
Wait, Montana real?? I thought they only exist in Far cry 5??
@purp4168
@purp4168 Жыл бұрын
I love this comment
@timewarriorsaga
@timewarriorsaga Жыл бұрын
Evidence? Read TikTok's terms of service
@georget.5048
@georget.5048 Жыл бұрын
still unconstitutional, commerce clause is cut and dry
@commonsense.1014
@commonsense.1014 Жыл бұрын
So it's OK if a US company scraps or steals my date, just not a competitor to FB. Got it. Since now almost all tos say the same thing.
@BrainEatPenguin
@BrainEatPenguin Жыл бұрын
@@commonsense.1014 no, they all need to be destroyed.
@Jamalfarmboy
@Jamalfarmboy Жыл бұрын
@@commonsense.1014 yes it’s better if a us company has access to us citizens data instead of china the United States biggest rival and a nuclear power who threatens war all the time
@cheeser546
@cheeser546 Жыл бұрын
FB takes the exact same data. if youre mad at tiktok, be mad at facebook too
@eldritchteletubby9319
@eldritchteletubby9319 Жыл бұрын
These shorts are at least 20% of how I get my news now and I'm not even mad.
@caroline10081
@caroline10081 Жыл бұрын
And it's all thanks to TikTok
@Blake.Spider
@Blake.Spider Жыл бұрын
Meta changed their name so people would forget about how they mishandeled user data multiple times, and then thy did it again??
@ho_oh188
@ho_oh188 Жыл бұрын
Did Meta eat the popcorn?
@fanshaw
@fanshaw Жыл бұрын
Banning Tiktok seems far more even handed and less 1A compromising than the "limiting reach" that was being pushed on Twitter with full government coordination and approval where particular individuals and and opinions were being targeted.
@gamerville3494
@gamerville3494 Жыл бұрын
The data they collect is in the user agreement and if y’all read that you would see why people want it banned
@Hellothis12157knbhb
@Hellothis12157knbhb Жыл бұрын
Theirs also the fact about one and 10 people would be a person. China would want data on in the state like there’s not many of us but that doesn’t mean there’s not many politicians, military officials, and some soldiers, because the only military base here is in charge of 100+ nukes, and the ballon was spotted around that base, theirs also the fact no citizen can get in trouble for this like they fine Tik tok or Oracle idk which 10k snd I doubt they will win any lawsuits Tik tok has nothing to do with the first amendment posting on the internet is not a right that’s is required to live like if we make social media a first amendment right then we can’t ban sex offenders form accessing the internet.
@isdrakon9802
@isdrakon9802 Жыл бұрын
Why not just regulate what they are allowed to do, it's a better solution
@gamerville3494
@gamerville3494 Жыл бұрын
@@isdrakon9802 becuase it’s not going to matter they will find a way to do it, there will always be a loop hole
@isdrakon9802
@isdrakon9802 Жыл бұрын
@@gamerville3494 well then let's get rid of all gun control laws, may as well because people will just find ways around. Why lock your door, a robber can just find another way in. Do you see how stupid that line of logic is
@gamerville3494
@gamerville3494 Жыл бұрын
@@isdrakon9802 I don’t think you understand what they are doing we’ve been regulating social media for ever but stuff like this still happens and when it’s doing more bad than good there’s no point in keeping it around
@unfathomablyunfathomable
@unfathomablyunfathomable 2 ай бұрын
"too far" 😂😂😂
@katiehettinger7857
@katiehettinger7857 Жыл бұрын
Another pertinent point, yeating TikTok violates the 14th Amendment: no State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States. We should have a transparent discussion about actual examples of security breaches committed through apps., all apps. Looking at foreign entities, corporations and our own government at both state and federal level use of citizens data. If you are not paying for it, you are not the product being sold. 😉👍💙🇺🇸🕊
@stellaleicht4035
@stellaleicht4035 Жыл бұрын
Hard to argue that because tiktok isnt american nor do you have the right to it
@Axolotl720
@Axolotl720 Жыл бұрын
@@stellaleicht4035granted most items in America aren’t made in America
@richardmillhousenixon
@richardmillhousenixon Жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with the second half of your argument, but it's kinda hard to argue that it's violating the 14th amendment when accessing TikTok, or even social media in general, isn't a legally recognized privilege.
@kahanumc
@kahanumc Жыл бұрын
That TikTok sound effect when the lawyer appeared was a nice touch
@suchamysz
@suchamysz Жыл бұрын
Ah UE, despite its problems still it's beacon of hope for entire working class
@moonbro5381
@moonbro5381 Жыл бұрын
Good for EU. Corporations have to be in check and hold actual responsibility.
@EseEsKaliman
@EseEsKaliman Жыл бұрын
When will people realize everything goes back to money. Corporations and conglomerates control our governments and we let it happen
@wisemysticaltree42069
@wisemysticaltree42069 Жыл бұрын
man I need to get the hell out of America
@navarruh
@navarruh 4 ай бұрын
Gosh these companies, that we ALL USE!
@Songsofthesea6373
@Songsofthesea6373 Жыл бұрын
That was the weirdest plot twist ever
@iPhony_16
@iPhony_16 Жыл бұрын
Ummm, I'm on team Montana. TikTok does collect lots of data and sends it to the Chinese government.
@DeadCat-ed3hh
@DeadCat-ed3hh Жыл бұрын
KZbin collects and sells your data to other companies 🙄
@orbitelphoenix
@orbitelphoenix Жыл бұрын
There are some legitimate reasons to ban TikTok. One I find unfair is that TikTok is a Chinese owned company that operates in the US. Where as in China if a US company wanted to do business in China they would have to use a Chinese company proxy. Another thing people forget about is that TikTok is just musically. Which got in trouble due to underage soliciting and TikTok still has that problem but doesn't acknowledge. TikTok has gotten better at hiding it using their algorithm a few other KZbinrs have proven this by making new accounts in specifically seeking it out and once you break through that algorithm it's everywhere.
@icejuliet3146
@icejuliet3146 Жыл бұрын
Ah, the one time I'm proud to be European
@borkboi9445
@borkboi9445 Жыл бұрын
Tik Tok doesn't really deserve to be ban but i sure would be happy if it did even if it is unjust
@joebyrnes9254
@joebyrnes9254 Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute…I thought for years now people have been always saying “freedom of speech does not apply to private corporations they can censor you all they want”
@seagoingberry8171
@seagoingberry8171 Жыл бұрын
This is the *Government* violating the First Amendment by banning Tik Tok.
@AnthonyELombardi
@AnthonyELombardi 6 ай бұрын
It does not violate your first amendment right
@done3732
@done3732 6 ай бұрын
It does 100% but it’s not US based so it has no obligation to uphold that right
@kenshinbattousai374
@kenshinbattousai374 Жыл бұрын
Lmao there's barely a million people in the whole state. There's like 290k in just my suburb, directly bordered by like 5 more. Jokeass 'state'
@hampterclips
@hampterclips Жыл бұрын
Get both out of here.
@cracgor
@cracgor 4 ай бұрын
I have yet to see any sensible argument why it is worse for China to have my data than any social media company.
@FuzDoesStuff
@FuzDoesStuff Жыл бұрын
Montana is just a weird state.
@bookmarkobjectanimations123
@bookmarkobjectanimations123 Жыл бұрын
The hypocricy of them banning tiktok for the possibility they'll do with china what meta did with them from the eu!😂
@dadaduduflub
@dadaduduflub Жыл бұрын
Damn I love living in europe
@Killtonyfunny
@Killtonyfunny Жыл бұрын
Just ban and fined them Billions of dollars. The billions would be invested in mental health rehabilitation with all these addiction from Tik tok
@orange_sauce5951
@orange_sauce5951 Жыл бұрын
You can't fine and ban. A ban means they don't have to respect your laws anymore, including fines.
@testificles240
@testificles240 Жыл бұрын
tic toc isnt the only app that steals data or gets ppl addicted.... most of them are american anyways
@Killtonyfunny
@Killtonyfunny Жыл бұрын
@@orange_sauce5951 fine and ban
@outdoorscholar6016
@outdoorscholar6016 Жыл бұрын
Both of you to assume the government would take those billions of dollars and invest it in anything other than the War Machine and their rich buddies.
@und6r
@und6r Жыл бұрын
ban and fine all the other multi billion dollar data stealing companies like meta to make it fair
@Mr.Lonely420
@Mr.Lonely420 Жыл бұрын
The TOS of tik tok says they can look at everything you do on your phone.
@ianhomerpura8937
@ianhomerpura8937 Жыл бұрын
Time to flood the servers of MSS (China's Intel agency) with indecent material then
@torchbearer2175
@torchbearer2175 Жыл бұрын
U mean like every other app?
@toxictaro
@toxictaro Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that app everyone was crazy for a year or two ago that did that super awesome age up. They gained access to your phone and was Russian.
@Nickname10344
@Nickname10344 Жыл бұрын
@@torchbearer2175every other app can’t access individual files and log keystrokes. They also can’t access other devices on the same WiFi network that don’t even have TikTok/agreed to the TOS. They also aren’t legally obligated to turn over all of that data to the Chinese Government.
@niles1492
@niles1492 Жыл бұрын
@@Nickname10344 You be surprised with some these apps out here, tik tok is awful for sure but we gotta look at these other companies doing the same (except the chinese part ofc)
@blefyplayswowable
@blefyplayswowable Жыл бұрын
They don't have coherent arguments nor points to address, because it's not their decision.
@ctsupergeek
@ctsupergeek Жыл бұрын
I see the comparison of Tik-Tok spying on us versus any US based social media spying on us like your wife peeking in the bathroom to look at you vs your neighbor peeking in the bathroom to look at you.
@alexquest8113
@alexquest8113 Жыл бұрын
I understand why India banned Chinese apps. The revenue was directly fueling transgressions at Indian borders. But I don't know why US is doing it
@waozer
@waozer Жыл бұрын
the way the popcorn flew in his face
@Mirnaloves
@Mirnaloves 4 ай бұрын
GET RID OF ALL SOCIAL MEDIA!!!
@genenco1
@genenco1 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he's going to lose on the 1st amendment, but he CAN ban it from govt paid for phones.
@horothewisewolf5436
@horothewisewolf5436 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY, the big ol B word!
@pustulioyo
@pustulioyo Жыл бұрын
Why is everybody going after TikTok when every social media platform does what TikTok does?
@swempley
@swempley Жыл бұрын
Because TikTok is a Chinese company. Why does China want to destroy the United States is a better question.
@brett9382
@brett9382 Жыл бұрын
Because tiktok is a Chinese company which means they have to follow Chinese national law which gives the Chinese government the ability to access all past and future data collected by the company.
@outdoorscholar6016
@outdoorscholar6016 Жыл бұрын
@@brett9382 like Zuckerberg wasn’t caught doing the same thing. Guess we gotta ban Meta and Facebook now.
@ItsDaKoolaidDude
@ItsDaKoolaidDude Жыл бұрын
In addition, China *_does not_* have any best interests in anyone other than their governments personal power and money. In fact none of the other countries do, which shocks me how naively trusting people are that everything is just *_perfectly fine_* in the world, still astounds me with the news of two Americans having gone off to Afghan for vacation expecting to never find any issue or not get killed by the still hotly contesting groups over there.
@Sozzley
@Sozzley Жыл бұрын
You western liberal democrats seriously dont know whats happening in the other side of the world, tiktok has to give ccp the data of its users, ccp the same party that massacres uyghur Muslims in concentration camps
@zdlanedenny
@zdlanedenny Жыл бұрын
Work smart to shut down TikTok for good?
@kingjoseph5901
@kingjoseph5901 Жыл бұрын
The whole country needs to ban tiktok
@RedRabbitEntertainment
@RedRabbitEntertainment Жыл бұрын
*ban social media
@starvingpeoplecantcomplain
@starvingpeoplecantcomplain Жыл бұрын
As long as the content isn’t banned the ban of TikTok doesn’t violate the first amendment. The only proof you need are the terms of service of tiktok
@mcnuggwtscreations
@mcnuggwtscreations Жыл бұрын
TikTok deserves to be banned, so does Facebook and Instagram.
@mgdii5435
@mgdii5435 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@synthraofficial5366
@synthraofficial5366 Жыл бұрын
How many times can Facebook be fined for the same crap before they just lose their business license?
@MalzysFoldraankonid
@MalzysFoldraankonid Жыл бұрын
The EU said that if they continue to send EU user data to the US the can ban meta altogether
@Imbatmn57
@Imbatmn57 Жыл бұрын
They didnt try and ban facebook for doing the exact same thing.
@AgentS1285
@AgentS1285 Жыл бұрын
Again why not both. An the concern is they have to hand over there data not that they could.
@EvilMonkey403
@EvilMonkey403 Жыл бұрын
now that you can sue people for social media restrictions, sue Facebook and Twitter for restricting users first amendment rights
@purp4168
@purp4168 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, freedom of speech only is true on public owned forums, not privately owned social medias.
@EvilMonkey403
@EvilMonkey403 Жыл бұрын
@Purp tik tok is a privately social media though
@richardmillhousenixon
@richardmillhousenixon Жыл бұрын
​​@@EvilMonkey403 TikTok is doing the exact same thing though, so that's not exactly a strong argument
@EvilMonkey403
@EvilMonkey403 Жыл бұрын
@Tribe of the Iron Flame I guess I should've explained more, they are saying you cannot ban tik tok because that restricts first amendment yet they are silent when someone gets banned by said company
@d.o.g573
@d.o.g573 Жыл бұрын
Found the American Wumao 😂
@geerakindeathrider5693
@geerakindeathrider5693 Жыл бұрын
Nah we should be banned all social media for that reason it’s totally bullshit
@1stPrinciples455
@1stPrinciples455 Жыл бұрын
Dont be a fool. Software is not patentable generally speaking. Can easily be duplicated by american co
@thefallensolo3549
@thefallensolo3549 Жыл бұрын
I wish this information was presented in a less goofy way. I can't really take it seriously and really worry about this stuff when I'm hearing it for the first time surrounded by refrences and lame trends. Which is a shame because I don't see anywhere else talk about half this stuff
@channdler
@channdler Жыл бұрын
It encourages people who don't like real news to look it up and read the article. Dave has been one of my favorite creators/journalists for years bc of these videos
@stellaleicht4035
@stellaleicht4035 Жыл бұрын
This is targeting teenagers and young adults If you dont like it odds are you arent the target audience
@thefallensolo3549
@thefallensolo3549 Жыл бұрын
@@stellaleicht4035 I'm 22, the good old shitty Gen Z and none of this cringey Tik Tok trend, skit stuff appeals to me. Its just a bit childish
@reverseflashfacts6093
@reverseflashfacts6093 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t the bill only for government devices? I mean it only makes sense to ban social media from government owned devices, did something else happen?
@Coramelimane
@Coramelimane Жыл бұрын
Chiba... admitted... they do it
@secondsea2
@secondsea2 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly timed cut
@myster5y
@myster5y Жыл бұрын
I like how China is suing over free speech
@fasfgasdfagadsf
@fasfgasdfagadsf Жыл бұрын
Long story short.. Montana wins.. as long as it is controlled by a Chinese company.. it stand up to scrutiny
@bhavnabhatt4496
@bhavnabhatt4496 Жыл бұрын
The Meta fine caught me off guard😂😂
@G74-f1t
@G74-f1t 8 ай бұрын
W Montana
@johnokazaki7967
@johnokazaki7967 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY. Hope next one is Apple and Microsoft
@JuanPassiveMenis
@JuanPassiveMenis Жыл бұрын
Murica just can’t stand when China finally surpasses them. 😂
@PetThePeeves
@PetThePeeves Жыл бұрын
I genuinely do NOT care what data they have on me. In fact I asked my computer software engineer brother to explain to me what all the apps are doing on my phone and what they’re collected and when he finally dumbed it down for me the general vibe was “they’re all watching you at all times but do you really care” no, I really don’t. I would rather have my apps. I get certain all restrictions on devices used by government officials which require sharing of sensitive information, although why they’re only worried about TikTok is beyond me. Otherwise..
@jenifergarcia1566
@jenifergarcia1566 Жыл бұрын
The government of China is the enemy of the United States. They would love nothing more than to see us wiped from the face of the earth. The government of China has full access to TikTok; and the personal information of anyone who downloads the app. This is bad. Do you see why it is bad now? It’s different than an app owned by an American or ally country of America. So delete it off your phone and use something else for your fun. There are plenty of alternatives.
@richardmillhousenixon
@richardmillhousenixon Жыл бұрын
The big concern is the fact that it is a country that is our political adversary and has historically used their resources to spy on the U.S. Believe me, I am 100% against any level of data collection, even by our own government, but I would still much rather it be them collecting the data than a foreign adversary
@420.........
@420......... Жыл бұрын
Montana needs to be unincorporated
@harleygood4829
@harleygood4829 6 ай бұрын
Sue creators for kids diiing.. amendment should be thrown out for tiktokers..
@kylennpetersen4407
@kylennpetersen4407 Жыл бұрын
Who saw meta misusing people’s personal information!!!! Not me who dumped off all social media (save KZbin, and Spotify which are more media media lol) oof there’s a long way to go tho……… needs to be more than just billion dollar lawsuits…
@TheFech80
@TheFech80 Жыл бұрын
Yes it literally is in its TOS it can browse your phone and computer it sees what you copy and paste and your files
@GalacticPossum
@GalacticPossum Жыл бұрын
If they were worried about our data, they'd also be going after Wish and Temu.
@jonathanbrito2787
@jonathanbrito2787 6 ай бұрын
Good news TikTok is ban in USA
@mastergamer-ut9uj
@mastergamer-ut9uj 6 ай бұрын
Not yet
@brett9382
@brett9382 Жыл бұрын
I live in montana and actually agree with the ban. Read the terms of service, and you'll be surprised. It's not that they think the Chinese government is accessing the data right now like the video implies, its actually because it's a Chinese company and they have to follow Chinese national laws, which allows the Chinese gov take control of the company to access any and all data the company has collected at any time they see fit. I know this is a very biased video and channel, but if you don't think a foreign nation accessing our nation's citizens personal data is a national security concern you're insane.
@moonlitcat2022
@moonlitcat2022 Жыл бұрын
perfectly cut scream
@dylanrice5617
@dylanrice5617 Жыл бұрын
Man I miss when tik tok was cringe and everyone hated it.
@Mr.GlitchInfinity
@Mr.GlitchInfinity Жыл бұрын
The questions congress asked was bad enough that they could get sued for that
@gulfcitynd
@gulfcitynd Жыл бұрын
Government officials should not have TikTok on their phones though
@aladin_run5404
@aladin_run5404 Жыл бұрын
This is for personal devices also.
@purp4168
@purp4168 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have any social media on government owned devices.
@aladin_run5404
@aladin_run5404 Жыл бұрын
@@purp4168 That was earlier, this is for personal devices.
@CountryNerd12
@CountryNerd12 Жыл бұрын
Guys, don’t ban TikTok… they’ll all come here
@magustrigger9195
@magustrigger9195 Жыл бұрын
First amendment might hold weight if tictok allowed some free speech
@NigarIsHere
@NigarIsHere Жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Private platforms are allowed to put in their own TOSes in place barring certain exceptions. Free speech law only effects how the government has to treat its citizens and the entities under itself. So government is not allowed to control the existence or the availability of tiktok unles it has a valid reason to do do whilst tiktok is allowed to allow only their preferred type of speech on their *private* platform.
@magustrigger9195
@magustrigger9195 Жыл бұрын
@Nigar i dont care really tick tock is algorithmicly programed to make kids see terrible things and sells your info to the ccp.
@NigarIsHere
@NigarIsHere Жыл бұрын
@@magustrigger9195 Sure! You can make that argument but that is a completely different one. You can argue that the content promoted on the platform is outside of free speech protection due to its effects. You are going to need some real strong evidence if you actually think it is intentionally programmed to cause said effect. Rather than it being the side effect of an algorithm which pushes content based of off attention therefore pushing the content to be more sensational and less informative, due to it's nature. You would also need direct evidence to argue that they sell the info to CCP. But still it is your argument, like, you can do whatever you want with it.
@mikkelborby
@mikkelborby Жыл бұрын
Only 1.3? Jeez. That's not enough
@Nerdfighter958
@Nerdfighter958 Жыл бұрын
Are those 5 creators the /only/ montana creators? 😅
@MysteryGeek2006
@MysteryGeek2006 Жыл бұрын
Probably not, but they’re most likely the more well known TikTok creators that happened to live in Montana
@juanburciaga4111
@juanburciaga4111 Жыл бұрын
More like the only 5 people living in Montana.
@gang1798
@gang1798 Жыл бұрын
Everyone who used tic tok should be imprisoned
@RedRabbitEntertainment
@RedRabbitEntertainment Жыл бұрын
That's crazy, not that I care but still, that's crazy.
@okmowstop9
@okmowstop9 Жыл бұрын
Well I hope TikTok gets banned from America completely
@GlobalOutcast
@GlobalOutcast Жыл бұрын
I dont like Tic tok, mostly because the trends i seen come from that place. However when I saw Congress talk to the guy from tictok it was just fucking sad and embarrassing
@toomanyhungrycats0554
@toomanyhungrycats0554 Жыл бұрын
I don't care if they collect my data
@das096
@das096 Жыл бұрын
Banning TikTok would nake the world a beter place. Its literaly used to undermine our youth and we just sit and cry that we may loose our stupid 3 sec vids of 500 things at once.
@mini_taine
@mini_taine Жыл бұрын
Why do i keep getting these. I still refuse to download the tiktok plague
@user-lr9nx5yz9r
@user-lr9nx5yz9r 8 ай бұрын
Tiktok will effect in January 1 2024 good luck montana
@Plipster
@Plipster Жыл бұрын
I hope TikTok gets banned because of the creators that make millions off of dancing and bobbing their head will be forced in the real world.
@typical_republican654
@typical_republican654 Жыл бұрын
Not everyone dances anymore. Some small businesses rely on the app for customers. Tiktok being banned could make them go broke
@Plipster
@Plipster Жыл бұрын
@@typical_republican654 well they shouldn’t
@typical_republican654
@typical_republican654 Жыл бұрын
@Smango. they can if they want to. With today's economy a company can't afford to go out of buisness. It's good people are doing buisness on tiktok
@typical_republican654
@typical_republican654 Жыл бұрын
@Smango. oh and I should mention how it's not going to get banned. Because it violates free speech. A lot of people express their thoughts. And if the ban goes through, they might try to target youtube, Twitter (X is the new name), Facebook, etc.
@erikmorck6145
@erikmorck6145 Жыл бұрын
Go EU🎉
@kidsythe
@kidsythe Жыл бұрын
I mean when you decline to link any of your other accounts or grant any access to your mobile device. yet tick tock exclusively recommends people from your phone book. I'm not saying other companies Don't do it. but I feel like we could start there
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