Timbaland Exposed, VCV Rack F*cked up! Kendrick Lamar Superbowl Controversy, T Racks 6 (WNN)

[@joseluisrevelo]

Beato simply has no intellectual curiosity whatsoever. The things he’s said about Latin music are so cringe. Ugh.

[@crnkmnky]

That's a hard pill to swallow, but it rings so true. But hey, he wouldn't be the first. I like him, but he's a music professor who doesn't even know how to walk outside of his classroom.

[@ThatSockmonkey]

I'll just stick with the open source VCV which is now developed as Cardinal.

[@Bthelick]

Yeah Tribbet just got a session fee, there's no stealing unless he signed otherwise. I've done plenty. 2k is incredible for a single session fee!

[@user-ks8ux4ig6b]

saying that clip of Beato suggests he's a racist is a huge stretch

[@SaltSpirits]

it’s not that clip alone, it’s constant remarks about other cultures music. Believe it or not, when you constantly shit on any genre that isn’t made by a white guy with a guitar people notice.

[@c_o_r_y]

This Cry me a river thing is aggravating because Scott Storch and Timbaland had a huge falling out over the credits that may have (i can’t recall) gone to court a long time ago. In the clip, Tye Tribbette (who is credited as a performer) says he played on the record, not that he wrote the melody. He probably did the choir arrangement, which if so was a missed opportunity on his part, but this whole thing just seems like information out of context and conclusions jumped. And in just a practical sense, at the time of recording scott storch was a big, but not massive name where if it could be justified to not list him in the credits on a guaranteed money maker AAA project, Timbo would have taken it

[@Weaverbeats]

I agree there is a lack of information to fully know for sure in any direction.

[@saxmanash]

Yeah I've done session work and I've no expectation, unless agreed beforehand to be credited on a track.

[@croay]

I love when a niche or indie company decides to release a subscription based service that offers 0 consumer benefits (like kHs does) and is even more expensive than most of the popular subscription based services out there (movies, music streaming, etc).

[@amindamok]

at least with KHs you own the full product over time.

[@E-1K]

Kilo has the best subscription policy.

[@croay]

@@E-1K yeah, I should have worded it better but I meant to say that kHs actually does it right (quite the opposite of 0 consumer benefits)

[@joesirco]

Making my physical rack finally look like less of a bad idea

[@starsmash7491]

@@amindamokthat's not even subscription model to me. That's just layaway.

[@crnkmnky]

2:40 Tye Tribbett has always looked… interesting. I remember seeing his _Victory_ album cover, and thinking "what in the Yingyang Twins is this!?"

[@shaboogen]

Scott Storch could tell me the sun came up and I'd look outside to check

[@JEBJOSH]

😂😂😂

[@Sakima205]

he's a lair

[@julieblair7472]

It's called rent seeking. It is a form of corruption that is a huge signifier of rank capitalism. It's not just software. Car companies are charging monthly fees for features built into your car. I am not subscribing to power steering, sorry.

[@jg_ultra]

They won’t stop at monthly. I used to work for a division of one of the world’s largest auto manufacturers. They want to get to the point where you pay for features like cruise control or heated seats per day or for _each drive_ during which you use them.

[@understanding77]

They’re even doing this with freaking alexa lol

[@lovely-shrubbery8578]

​@@jg_ultrawtf dawg

[@crnkmnky]

​@@jg_ultra I heard about this type of nonsense on Louis Rossmann's channel. BMW has all of these new self-adjusting features (high-beam lights, suspension, heated seats) with a free trial. Is there some kind of _-algae-ribbon-_ or always-on data tracking required? Is that their excuse? 🤔

[@jg_ultra]

@@crnkmnky how’s this for another tidbit: building all of the vehicles with all (or at least more/most) of the options, and then enabling/disabling via software, makes them easier and less expensive to build, more reliable, etc. That should arguably flow down to consumers as reduced prices but, alas, no, it is used instead to nickel and dime customers whenever they want to use something.

[@curbysounds]

so tired of subscription software

[@understanding77]

Took the words right out my mouth (pause)

[@SaltSpirits]

dude it’s vcv rack they offer 2800+ free modules you don’t need the subscription for anything at all the software is still completely functional without it it’s just a bonus if you want more

[@unknownmusicman]

Not a fan of the VCV+ thing, but honestly I used VCV for free for YEARS before version 2 came out, and I happily shelled out the (then) $99 for it the day it was available. If you're at all into modular synthesis, or even just making your own signal chains within a single plugin it is so worth the money.

[@donnieharrisonn]

“yea we had dinner” such a great line

[@murishal]

You can have still have free version of vcv rack 2

[@thingsgotmessy]

Flea and Dave Navarro played as Alannis Morisettes back up band. Doubt they got residuals either, but it’s kind of like working your way up in any job in a competitive field in my experience. Not saying it’s good, or even great, just is

[@5PawZ]

Waiting for this channel to go subscription. Weaver+

[@naldosrecords]

Why is Kel Mitchell from kenan and kel just randomly there 😂in the club shay shay topic

[@RangeWilson]

Success has many fathers. At least 3 in this case, and we haven't heard from Justin Timberlake yet. I'm sure he "wrote" it also.

[@DashGlitch]

VCV Rack the software itself is free, the PRO just adds a few modules that aren't that necessary to the core function anyway, you can still also just buy the upgrade outright. People are overreacting for sure. It's very similar to Vital's business model (free entry, paid or sub pro version) lol

[@_DRMR_]

You forget that Pro is a plugin version of the standalone. The video is not about Pro though, but about the VCV+ subscription. I would not say the business model is anything like Vital. It's subscription has additional perks, but all in all it's much cheaper too (unless you are really into the commercial VCV modules, those can get pricey if you want them all).

[@inperfectsequence7840]

This will certainly be the reason why Russians start pirating it. Russians are already pirating Reaper for payment in an absurd way...🤣🤣

[@crnkmnky]

​@@inperfectsequence7840 how and *_why_* would anybody pirate Reaper? could you elaborate?

[@DroddMcGroggin]

VCV+ includes the Pro version, plus access to every core and third party paid plugin. That's hundreds of dollars worth of software that I suppose some budget restricted people can opt to rent for a few months to do some tracking in the DAW or be able to sample all the paid modules at once before diving into any sort of major investment.

[@VIRALBEATS360]

Maybe Scott Storch came up with the melody, and Timbaland relayed that melody to the session musician to play, while making the beat.

[@Weaverbeats]

Yeah i don't understand why though. In storch's story it sounds like he was already playing it and I don't know why they wouldn't have recorded it at that point.

[@VIRALBEATS360]

@@Weaverbeats Yeah, it does sound a bit weird. However, he also strikes me as the type to walk in and out of recording studios, coming up with ideas, then leaving immediately... especially during that era. He did mention he had a session with Christina Aguilera, afterwards. He could have simply been too busy to stick around. Either way, we are simply left to speculate, which is the Internet's specialty 🍿😎

[@6stringbeats397]

Timberland watches his body language and then he came up with that melody. Timberland is clearly telling the truth

[@beatz04]

😅 Timbaland is often vague when it comes to explaining what exactly he did or didn't do on a song.

[@Bthelick]

Sorry Weaver your ad revenue will be low, it seems the only adverts I get on your videos are unison and output so skipped🤣

[@Wombleizer]

You raise an interesting point. Maybe if the tech isn't progressing much anymore, we can get back to making some actual music ? 😅

[@crnkmnky]

Memory is a very funny thing, more like a damp sponge than a jar of coins. I'm sure there is _some_ truth in each reminiscence…

[@amindamok]

Ive been using VCV Rack for years and I enjoy it. There are a lot of paid modules that would cost a great deal of money to buy them all. What they are selling is those modules for a subscription. There are new ones all the time so for now its actually a good deal. What I worry about is that this will encourage them to take previously free modules and make them only available in the subscription. This also makes me believe they are nearing a release of a new version which will make owners of the current pro version have to subscribe to get what they have always had in the current version. Definitely something to keep an eye on.

[@Weaverbeats]

That's a good point. It's incentive for them to make it all paid

[@shaboogen]

@@Weaverbeats they can attempt to go that route if they want, but Cardinal (the free, open source version built on literally the same code in lots of cases) will prevent them from making any real progress.

[@_DRMR_]

@@shaboogen It won't (Cardinal dev here) and I really doubt they would charge for the opensource modules. They actually actively disallow the commercial sale of opensource modules on the store. So I believe all the free/foss modules will stay that way.

[@ThatSockmonkey]

​@@_DRMR_you guys are doing great work, just btw. Cardinal is amazing.

[@_DRMR_]

@@ThatSockmonkey Just trying to create something useful out of opensource bits and bobs :)

[@Nothingspeshalwaysfresh]

Subscription based services are what they taught us in College for business , it’s the wave of the future and that’s what they are literally teaching all the newest marketing and business majors. What they fail to understand is that people have a car note worth of subscriptions at this point.

[@SynthfulDuck]

Cherry Audio's Modular looks like a good alternative right now. Or just keep using Cardinal.

[@inperfectsequence7840]

The problem is that one consumes a lot of CPU and the other is a pain in the ass. 🤣🤣🤣

[@murishal]

@@SynthfulDuck it is still free to use vcv rack 2.

[@inperfectsequence7840]

I never liked VCV, I prefer Reaktor, always. It's my favorite modular in the digital environment, there's nothing better and it has thousands of free gadgets. VCV+ just needs to be bought by Apple or Akai. 30 dollars a month, the same as I'm paying for an iPhone 15 through financing from the phone company I'm subscribed to. I couldn't forget that for 30 euros a month, I can buy low-end Nike shoes in stock, several thomann "Nino 597 Botany Shaker Banana", some "Dübreq Bowie Stylophone", Korg Monotron analog Delay, a Harley "Benton Split Screen" pedal... Lots of interesting low-cost hardware, I might be interested. 🤣🤣🤣

[@LiminalStvte]

im a TRacks Fan

[@inperfectsequence7840]

Yeah, me too, but MixBus and T-Racks are my secret weapon.✊😅

[@FotisandStuff]

Forget VCV Rack and just get Cardinal. ;)

[@unknownmusicman]

Honest question as somebody who both owns VCV pro and has tried Cardinal. Is your preference for Cardinal purely because it's free, or do you find there to be an advantage other than price? To me they seemed to be essentially the same, except you can't add any modules to Cardinal that aren't already included.

[@cyborgmetropolis7652]

Kendrick is throwing the ball to Drake.

[@Weaverbeats]

And drake isn't catching it cause he wasn't invited 🤧

[@808Buddha]

People respect Rick because he is a music historian and has very deep knowledge of music theory. He is a purist so respects people who also share deep knowledge in music theory and people who can actual play an instrument. He doesnt consider modern chart toping music creative because they are repetitive/monotonous and use basic chord progressions. Its a dated way of thinking because modern productions are vastly dependent on sound design and creatively flipping samples also making that BASS/808 thump. As long as it sounds good then nothing else really matters from a listener perspective. Old musicians like making music with raw ingredients where as modern producers like to cook with premade ingredients. Still as a modern producer its good to continuously learn music theory and Rick is one of the best at that.

[@crnkmnky]

Fair enough. That username tho. 😸 *edit:* I can't believe you changed it. 😭

[@drakonyanazkar]

You have a strong comment there, but doesn't change the fact Rick is an old white Rock'n'Roll boomer who will turn down music for having profanity and turn it up for just having "an actual guitar". As a youtuber, he became more clickbait and form than content. He's not even the target demographic for the Spotify top charts. So his opinion is really out of place there.

[@Bthelick]

Unfortunately for VCV , the free Cardinal exists.

[@murishal]

@@Bthelick vcv 2 is still free

[@Bthelick]

@@murishal not for use as a VST

[@E_X_H_U_M_E_D_06]

I liked Kendrick's song at first but when it's constantly being played multiple times a day, you start to get tired of it. Unless you're a hardcore groupie. As for me personally that song has become what I consider "Nickelback status" it's just really played out. I assume the Kendricks Stan's are now going to come at me again.

[@g.s3550]

Tye Tribbet didn't even play the right key smh

[@2KCustomerService]

That doesn’t mean anything

[@bigkeezo]

Timbo and Scott just changed the key

[@stay.in.school.]

$19 a month is a eurocrack habit

[@martinforstner3075]

I quickly estimated my average monthly expenses for my hardware eurorack addiction and $19 suddenly seems dirt cheap 😂, but man do I hate subscription services.

[@Uitverkorenen]

Kendricks voice. Sounds like he's a smurf to me. I tried to like him. But he's a smurf. I'm more a Rakim fan or Krs-one

[@bcrtrx]

i think session contracts should look more like X dollars + Y dollars for every Z streams or if the track generates w/e amount of revenue. it can be logistically complicated but i feel bad for ppl who are part of a massive project and got nothin to show for it

[@itsrasalhague]

VCV Rack just went Adobe mode.

[@midnightsocean2689]

I literally lol-ed when I saw the vcv sub.

[@joesirco]

Have I told you I love modular lately

[@MSV3GMNG]

CAN WE JUST FOR A SECOND ACKNOWLEDGE WEAVER CALLING AK OUT?!?!?!? 🤣

[@stuff4826]

he didnt steal it, he bought it. all the rights. technically didnt create it, but bought the right to say he did.

[@VIRALBEATS360]

Kendrick is going to kill that performance, by the way. Lil Wayne isn’t entitled to anything simply because he represents the state, especially without any recent hits. He still thinks he is the best rapper alive, but he was never that in the first place.

[@Weaverbeats]

Hot take but I agree

[@th3ufobaby]

Claiming Wayne was never “the best rapper alive” is pure bait. I don’t think you even believe that statement 100% lol.

[@KordTaylor]

I got the Like. But no smoochi big boo. 😂

[@favi2dopee888]

😭 imagine the superbowl he plays not like us, and the crowd says minorrrrr

[@GoLoopAudio]

I panicked, opened up my patches in VCV Rack 2 just to check it's still free. Yup its still free... *phew*

[@maco34576]

rick beato thinks every song in spanish is reggaeton

[@Tripwelleverday]

They got ai making plugins now in 5 seconds the plugins are doomed to say the least

[@PlugInGuruVideo]

If you saw the generated text and saw how messy it is, that you THEN have to fix so it even works, you’d take your doom outlook back. Maybe someday but not today.

[@crnkmnky]

@@PlugInGuruVideo What do you think of the stuff that Jade Wii tried to sell a few months ago. She made them all in WebSim, so nothing that would run in a DAW yet.

[@PlugInGuruVideo]

@@crnkmnky - I'm not sure what she is up to... not entirely sure clarity is her forte from what I can tell.

[@Kevhuman]

$2000 for playing some shit arpeggios, seems very fair

[@talldarkstrangerpr]

friends do not let friends use the vcv rack subscription model. rick beato is a sad clueless old man.

[@ThatSockmonkey]

The thing that freaks me out is that I'm older than Beato, but he looks twice as old as me.

[@DarkMetaOFFICIAL]

i'm sick of these people claiming they wrote my melody, it's mine 😂

[@stevewoodyt]

Never buy anything at full price especially t racks. One or twice a year you can get the total studio for like $200 which essentially everything Ik sells.

[@lovely-shrubbery8578]

If there are no more products to make, do something else

[@GO-lh3rt]

$2000 for a couple hours is pretty good for someone just messing around on keys.

[@SaltSpirits]

1:59 how are you not mentioning that you can still use vcv for free and that they still have 2800+ free modules and that the subscription is completely unnecessary to any of the functionality of vcv rack

[@moreorlesto]

Scott Storch has admitted during that time period he was doing HELLA drugs, so he may not remember what he did that entire year, let alone what happened in a session...

[@arte.marcelo.castro]

rap and hip hop were already popular in the 80s, I don't think Beato dislikes those genres because he is old...

[@crnkmnky]

Rick may not have been "old" yet, but he was already firmly enclosed in an 🏛️ ivory tower…

[@OrangeNash]

I don't get how Rick Beato can say all modern music is garbage, when he clearly hasn't listened to anything near to "all" modern music. Fair enough, modern MOR guitar rock is truly awful, but he seems to have an amazingly narrow taste in music and no interest in broadening it.

[@barrakingbeatz7794]

Pretty sure Scotch Storch played all the keys on cry me a river! And as you can hear storch played it correctly off the bat haha

[@SKUNK_The_underdog]

Yo weaver, you still staying off the weed?

[@SlangstonHuge]

he switched to meth

[@Weaverbeats]

Yeah for the most part. I have smoked a bit here and there though.

[@forestvvv]

think of it this way leather pants guy made the loop & then probably months later paid him out 2k for said loop & took all prod cred

[@robertosantiagomp]

Cardinal synth is free

[@Chicagolingo.]

Case closed Homie said he settled for 2k Out of court

[@williambuckley5601]

The irony of weaver calling other people racist

[@Weaverbeats]

I read a tweet that blew up calling Rick beato racist. Me reading that tweet outloud is not endorsement of this belief. Stop inhaling nitrous.

[@eren3390]

xD

[@Dystopian84]

Also the irony to still believe that hip hop is the music of the younger generation

[@adamsmith7058]

@@Dystopian84 "Also the irony to still believe that hip hop is the music of the younger generation" I know. Some of the earliest practioners are in the sixties, maybe even seventies. All of the golden age guys, when the music went from a passing underground fad to a fully developed genre in it's own right, with wide reach into the larger culture as a whole, are in their fifties. It's not solely the domain of the younger generation anymore and hasn't been for quite a while.If you ask me, obviously there's still good stuff around, but Hip Hop as a whole needs shaking up, with a ringing of the changes as monumental and sweeping as the one that occured during the Golden Age.

[@Dystopian84]

@@adamsmith7058 Hip Hop is no longer compatible with modern PC culture

[@nskeip]

Gotta tell it. I am the one who has written "Cry Me a River".

[@tora0606]

press 0 really fast for cool remixes

[@lewdacario]

why would timberland say he made it if he got someone else to make it for him?

[@Freedom4Ever420]

My gay uncle wrote the Rhodes part to Cry me a river

[@crnkmnky]

🙌

[@littup7322]

don't come for Rick Beato.. he has given praise to plenty of rap songs when they deserve it.. he's just very critical of all cookie cutter music, no matter what genre it is

[@Jazzmaster58]

You should create a focus point to look at cause it's a bit disconcerting that you look into the camera but you look to a hard right as if you're talking to someone standing there but you also look to your right as if you're answering to the super chat or something. It's good that you don't edit mid phrase like many people and that's good but you gotta quit looking to the sides like you're reading a script.

[@illneumatik]

If they open sourced , the software it's free...just right click copy the html code

[@Marcustrh]

Super Bowl in New Orleans we don’t know who Kendrick is bringing with him. I fully expect NO LIMIT & Cash Money NOT YM. Hot Boy Juvenile Turk Master P. 😂😂😂

[@frallorfrallor3410]

vcv subscription model "not yet" 😆

[@marcquinagulhas9579]

Like button is capped at 120

[@dat1beats]

OMG 😱 Timbaland needs to stop lying and Tye Tribbett better not be lying. 😂

[@inperfectsequence7840]

Lying is a viral business, to create controversy and web traffic, controversy in the media, to make noise and agitation in the networks. Timbaland is finished, he is no longer of any use, no one calls him, he is dead in life, he knows it, and he wants to be viral until his last days of life. I suppose it is a sad life that Mr. Timothy Zachery Mosley has to deal with. I am a big fan of his music, but it is no longer interesting to anyone and he no longer sees himself doing more humble things.

[@Luap-ls3ix]

Cardinal > VCV rack

[@armignac]

💋

[@irishmossdubwise]

Cardinal Synth is free and better

[@famousarmystudio]

Sounds to me like VCV courted some investors. Typically investment firms will now require companies to move to subscription models to invest. When groceries are %40-%50 more expensive, VCV rack is going to move way down the priority list for most hobbyists.

[@SaltSpirits]

VCV IS FUCKING FREE 2800+ MODULES NO PAYMENT WHATSOEVER LOOOL

[@E-1K]

Dude doesn't like rap. Absolutely no sin there. There's no rule mandating enjoyment on that. To think rap music is the only music Black people like is hella racist. Coming hard with that stereotype.

[@Weaverbeats]

He doesn't have to enjoy it but if he is going to comment on top 10 songs all the time, it would be of his benefit to not critique rap music for "repetition" and not having key changes lol. It comes across as insanely ignorant.

[@julta9425]

And you're missing the overarching point by mile...

[@qtrax100]

I'm not your chum!

[@cooperbeats-v4o]

lowkey we think you hate rick beato

[@ether_sect]

Beato knows music more than all of us combined. Facts.

[@Weaverbeats]

Not about rap though 🥲

[@D-One]

He knows a ton thats for sure, still a snob sitting on his high rock/guitar horse.. One can dislike something simple without constantly bashing it. Maybe in their grave Bach, Wagner or Beethoven think his solos suck, so what?

[@eren3390]

he can’t produce, he can play. that’s a difference

[@crnkmnky]

​@@eren3390 That depends on your definition of "produce."

[@kid_missive]

i thot vcv was freeware wtf

[@ThatSockmonkey]

The original version was open source, and is still available as a fork called Cardinal. They closed the source for VCV2. Now they're adding an "access to every paid add-on module" subscription model as well.

[@inperfectsequence7840]

Yeah, well Reaper is also free, then there's a paid version which is the same thing, but that's it, I guess VCV wants to make money without offering us anything special. I don't even know that Reaktor 6 is way cooler in every way, with its block system and elements. Thousands of free weird stuff in the gigantic Reaktor library. IMO, that's really the best thing there is. 🤔

[@murishal]

It is still free, with tones of free modules Rack 2 pro you can buy or rent thats all.

[@ThatSockmonkey]

@@kid_missive cardinal is a version of the original code that is free, and parts of it are free. The subscription service unlocks all of the paid modules apparently. It might be worth it, honestly, cos some of them are hell expensive but pretty cool. A good way to play with modular without spending a billion dollars

[@crnkmnky]

​@@inperfectsequence7840 Reaper is not "free," it's a _free trial_ that never cuts you off. It's only because the developer can _afford_ to be that lenient. 🤑

[@croay]

Also that take on Beato is just wildly dishonest or incredibly stupid (as expected from a Twitter user)

[@Weaverbeats]

Facts. Beato doesn't get rap though let's be fr.

[@croay]

@@Weaverbeats that's for sure, but it's obviously not a matter of race but of taste, bro just likes rock, jazz and guitars and there's nothing one can do about it lol

[@NexxuSix]

Chums? 😂

[@GO-lh3rt]

Rick Beato wants more real instruments in the charts. Black people can play real instruments. Ask his friend Tosin Abasi. Don't be stupid, don't share stupidity x

[@crnkmnky]

Everybody can play live instruments until the cows come home, but Rick will still keep moaning about structural and harmonic complexity. Which is valid, but not exactly paramount.

[@AI-Consultant]

Scott starch modified it?