Time Is Never Actually Experienced

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Rupert Spira

Rupert Spira

5 жыл бұрын

A 13 year old boy asks, 'Why do we lose a sense of time when we are sleeping?'
From the seven day retreat at Buckland Hall, Spring 2017. For access to the full recording see link: non-duality.rupertspira.com/w...
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@R_M.P
@R_M.P 5 жыл бұрын
So awesome to have a youngster connecting with higher consciousness. Imagine how wonderful our world would be if we had enlightening ones teaching our youth truth instead of the junk they are taught today!
@kathrynphillips3710
@kathrynphillips3710 2 жыл бұрын
yes absolutely! 💗
@anamariliavillas60
@anamariliavillas60 5 ай бұрын
How lucky we are to be alive at the same "time" as Rupert! Infinite gratitude!
@kolarz2128
@kolarz2128 2 ай бұрын
The one who is lucky is no one really, that's the paradox, but it's always good to be grateful ;)
@MrPrayuda
@MrPrayuda 5 жыл бұрын
"That's confusing but it makes sense".. I like the respond 😂😂
@Balazak
@Balazak 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the words I would choose also. It's like a weird contradiction that both things seem to occur simoultaneously in my head. I'm just hoping that if I watch enough of these, the final piece will click into place.
@sandyscott8565
@sandyscott8565 5 жыл бұрын
😚😉👍 young ones already seeking ! AMAZING ❤
@bugrist
@bugrist 5 жыл бұрын
There is still hope for the human species to continue to exist.
@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos
@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos 5 жыл бұрын
@@bugrist if you find that hopefull haha it is your own dream that continues...
@bugrist
@bugrist 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos You may discover how precious and sophisticated is the human vehicle, very expressive and beautiful. Is my dream trash in your cold view?
@mdbosley
@mdbosley 5 жыл бұрын
@@bugrist the make up of the human mind includes greed, hatred and delusion. If the human mind puts an end to all these outflows, It ceases to be human.
@bugrist
@bugrist 5 жыл бұрын
@@mdbosley Are you sure of the last statement? My friend such things are perceptions, they are just shadowy human behaviours, they don't define humans and not everyone is oriented to the shadow part of the light. You may turn to the other side and see more objectively.
@jatindarpaul5396
@jatindarpaul5396 5 жыл бұрын
Rupert, hats off to you who is trying tirelessly to help people to understand the concept of nothingness, consciousness or whatever we call it THAT doesn't change. I like the comment "Confusing but makes sense". I believe this is what is happening with people who are trying to understand Self or Consciousness. Keep it up, even a handful out of millions get it, it is worth doing the effort. Thanks.
@kathrynphillips3710
@kathrynphillips3710 2 жыл бұрын
well said 💗
@maartenblokdijk
@maartenblokdijk 11 күн бұрын
This man is brilliant!
@TheProgManTimSTR
@TheProgManTimSTR 5 жыл бұрын
"When you experience beauty in any form, that is reality, eternal infinate consciousness, filtering in to your finite mind. Beauty is the experience of the collapse of the destinction between consciousness and existence, between self and other. I am giving you a rational explaination to it but the actual experience of it is the experience of beauty. The way the world appears doesn't change but the way you experience that appearance, that is changed."
@sarahellis794
@sarahellis794 3 жыл бұрын
The Celestine prophesy also says this
@bigLOSdog
@bigLOSdog 4 жыл бұрын
I said to myself, I'll just find a video to watch really quickly. Nothing heavy, I don't want to get blown away with content. I just want to listen to something while I get some work done. . . 1 minute into the video, I am totally blown away by the content. I drop everything and give my undivided attention to Rupert! I'm hopeless.
@thenoizy
@thenoizy Ай бұрын
Same happened to me.
@harshvardhan3668
@harshvardhan3668 5 жыл бұрын
So lovely! Must be watched again and again carefully to assimilate the simple yet profound truth. It's ok if you don't get it immediately. But just be with it. Eventually, your own experiences with this understanding will change your perception. The man takes time to go into depths of the question and then answers from the Now. And I absolutely love the one asking questions. What innocent beauty! Peace to all!
@johnbrowne8744
@johnbrowne8744 5 жыл бұрын
Smart kid. Rupert is such a good teacher. Beautiful. 😊
@Dhorpatan
@Dhorpatan 3 жыл бұрын
Bleh.
@kathrynphillips3710
@kathrynphillips3710 2 жыл бұрын
Rupert epitomizes peace love & kindness his patience, wisdom and understanding of consciousness is timeless & eternal
@powerofone1645
@powerofone1645 4 жыл бұрын
that boy has a great clear thinking mind indeed. Well done lad.
@luiz.sentinela
@luiz.sentinela 5 жыл бұрын
Rupert's explanations are so clear!
@GJ-pl9mu
@GJ-pl9mu 5 жыл бұрын
The best explanation of 'time' I have ever heard. Rupert explains this brilliantly. Thankyou
@jasonbecker4974
@jasonbecker4974 25 күн бұрын
I want to give this kid an enormous hug.
@martinhoch1283
@martinhoch1283 Ай бұрын
This is brilliant!
@psychologicalsuccess3476
@psychologicalsuccess3476 3 жыл бұрын
The experience of beauty or love is better described as a silence, a deafening extraordinary silence.
@FabrizioRomanogc
@FabrizioRomanogc 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful
@mau_lopez
@mau_lopez 5 жыл бұрын
Incredibly clear explanation of the experience of time. Also, amazing clearness of the young when answering Rupert's questions, that was outstanding for a person so young ! Wonderful !
@fjbdc
@fjbdc 5 жыл бұрын
"You know it through the experience of beauty."😍
@kmaildavid
@kmaildavid 5 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful conversation! So clearly expressed on both sifes. And I loved Rupert's comments on beauty near the end. So relevant, but so forgotten …
@WillDanceAlone2U
@WillDanceAlone2U Жыл бұрын
Rupert, beautiful, in his way to point to people the beauty of presence.
@onetwozeroyt
@onetwozeroyt Жыл бұрын
So simple and convincing explanation of the Time, Space, Mind and the Reality. Wish this particular video would have been shown in schools before students are conditioned to believe there is a reality outside them.
@Aaron_Gentry
@Aaron_Gentry 5 жыл бұрын
Think of time as an acronym. Time stands for The Infinite Moment Experience - which makes perfect sense, because there is only one moment, occuring infinitely and eternally :)
@bildencarlia6924
@bildencarlia6924 3 жыл бұрын
...excellent...of course the mind would have its objections !!
@Anti79Hero
@Anti79Hero 2 жыл бұрын
Memory & traumatic memory in particular is not imagination
@gadjodilo22
@gadjodilo22 3 ай бұрын
even though all this makes sense, the hurt from memory does not go away. over and over again.
@rachellane2836
@rachellane2836 5 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of my all time favourite exchanges and conversations with Rupert. It's just poetic in it's beauty and understanding. 🙏
@johnnywlittle
@johnnywlittle 4 жыл бұрын
Love the ones w/this Alexander young fellow.
@MajorCulturalDivide
@MajorCulturalDivide 5 жыл бұрын
People keep telling me I should live in the moment. Trouble is, the moment sucks!
@iamBANGMARTIN
@iamBANGMARTIN 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rupey! Excellent pointers. Great video!
@terreemc
@terreemc 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for your beauty!
@vishwajitiyer4716
@vishwajitiyer4716 4 ай бұрын
Simply brilliant! Pure Essence. All rituals, rites are only for the mind, the mind alone. And yet, we follow those until we lose the mind or, rather, we give up the habit of filtering the world through the mind.
@enlightenedentrepreneurbyaw
@enlightenedentrepreneurbyaw Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful explanation! Thank you Rupert!
@krisc6216
@krisc6216 5 жыл бұрын
Time is just an artificial linear grid we place upon one present moment in which everything is constantly in motion. Your body doesn't age because of time passing. It ages because of atoms and cells moving.
@aritrachatterjee8057
@aritrachatterjee8057 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing sense of humor as well.
@bethanienaylor
@bethanienaylor Жыл бұрын
"All your life you're only going to experience ONE NOW." wow 🤯😌
@eri7-11
@eri7-11 4 жыл бұрын
That was so beautiful!
@isequalto_klasses
@isequalto_klasses 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic 🎉... Thanks...the question as well as the answer.... Greetings to the very intelligent youngster who asked this
@glynemartin
@glynemartin 5 жыл бұрын
When simplicity cripples the intellect....happy holidays!!...
@pantherenebuleuse
@pantherenebuleuse 5 жыл бұрын
WoW you guys have such an amazing relationship, like father and daughter
@MrShaggy524
@MrShaggy524 2 ай бұрын
FANTASTIC!
@n.lyndley.9889
@n.lyndley.9889 5 жыл бұрын
This stream of consciousness (known as Rupert) articulates these truths so directly it blows my mind - fantastic!
@aritrachatterjee8057
@aritrachatterjee8057 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful explanation to that question. Oh my cosmos! Even i think in same manner but people tell me i am mad. They say it is play of words. Thank you for such wonderful explanation.
@antifascist7818
@antifascist7818 2 жыл бұрын
Correction-3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time,apart from that what an absolutely incredible video. Amazing, so true. Namaste
@richardsrensen4219
@richardsrensen4219 3 жыл бұрын
this is a great question!
@AmanKumar-gi4ji
@AmanKumar-gi4ji 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@rolfhupkes802
@rolfhupkes802 2 ай бұрын
He means; ‘three dimensions of space and one dimension of time’ instead of the other way around 😊
@antonelloschirru8414
@antonelloschirru8414 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to witness a conversation about time between Rupert and Carlo Rovelli! That'd be awesome
@icobos
@icobos 5 жыл бұрын
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@Vlatka211
@Vlatka211 5 жыл бұрын
I would so love for a scientist to try to debunk him....any scientist. Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for them, but they will have to tackle this very soon:)
@Aum_shantishantishanti111
@Aum_shantishantishanti111 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect 😍
@ajt7899
@ajt7899 Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@elifineart
@elifineart 5 жыл бұрын
I love you Rupert and i will meet you, dont know where and when (it will be here and now for sure), over the last few years you helped me (and many others) see and understand more clearly the true reality of our being as it is, thank you.
@humanoid8344
@humanoid8344 5 жыл бұрын
eli eli
@Korvxx
@Korvxx Жыл бұрын
9:00-9:22 amazing
@LINGUBEES_VLOG_
@LINGUBEES_VLOG_ 3 ай бұрын
Actually, I also thought about the same concept when i was a school student as there were no past or future Even I was not able to conceptualize the past and future concepts.. Later I was forced myself to fit into these concepts when I dealt with English Grammar tense. I think Tense is only a property of language to achieve communication goal.😅
@mundodynamico1927
@mundodynamico1927 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@paztururututu4864
@paztururututu4864 3 жыл бұрын
:) So good! Thank you!!
@EdgarBeja
@EdgarBeja 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful :)
@Dirtbiker463
@Dirtbiker463 5 жыл бұрын
“Time and eternity intersect in the now”
@sumanjoshi7902
@sumanjoshi7902 2 жыл бұрын
So beautiful
@babbabu2716
@babbabu2716 5 жыл бұрын
the boys voice is very nice.. something in it .
@WillDanceAlone2U
@WillDanceAlone2U Жыл бұрын
Beauty-filled. How else to describe this exchange on the now between a man and a child?
@sugarfree1894
@sugarfree1894 5 жыл бұрын
He recalls something he said yesterday... I wish these teachers would just tell people that meditation can bring them into the presence of everything and leave it at that.
@CuriousCritter9
@CuriousCritter9 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a brilliant boy! And how lucky he is to be taught (and seeking) this at such an early age. Grace is with him! ❤
@chrisfillman6335
@chrisfillman6335 5 жыл бұрын
They should have put rupert spira in my school instead of the date program.
@AlexTrout79
@AlexTrout79 5 жыл бұрын
“3 dimentions of time and one of space”...nice one Rupert. Other than that, really deep explanation 👍
@fjbdc
@fjbdc 5 жыл бұрын
Good catch Alex! I was really working on that one! 😂
@AlexTrout79
@AlexTrout79 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Fred Blum thanks. It happens but it was funny 😁
@rauxmedia
@rauxmedia 5 жыл бұрын
That was, of course, just a slip in speech. He knows (very well) that its 3 of space and 1 of time.. There are at least a 1/2 dozen other videos on youtube where he talks about this same subject. "Time and Death" is a juicy one... to name one. Peace🙏
@AlexTrout79
@AlexTrout79 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Lesseraux you realize I’m aware of this. Anybody past 5th grade knows it. But it was funny trying to wrap my head around it, before realizing it was a mistake 😁
@AlexTrout79
@AlexTrout79 5 жыл бұрын
Bruce Wayne you’re deep bro but it makes no real sense 😁 3 space dimentions in 1? Have you gone to school? Even Batman has to take some physics classes (joking)
@Super_Cow
@Super_Cow 2 ай бұрын
So… I’m a little confused. Is Mr. Spira stating that sleep is basically an unskippable cutscene or is it more like a loading screen?
@petarpopovic6487
@petarpopovic6487 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you're talking about, but it seems like you're telling the truth..
@wolfpregel
@wolfpregel 28 күн бұрын
If time is only a mind made thing how come we are getting old..? I can follow the rationale of past and future not existing and thus only timeless now, but what else decays our body and any other objects in the world than time?
@Zen_Power
@Zen_Power 3 ай бұрын
You can visit the future Swoon, or past wanna now
@salb2086
@salb2086 3 жыл бұрын
Mmm, interesting to say the least. Lots of stuff to think and meditate about. The only con I think of is the volume level, the mic was malfunctioning or what? Good stuff anyway. Will look for other material from this guy.
@redefamatv
@redefamatv 2 жыл бұрын
we all live at an eternal now......now, now and now forever and this is what we have.That's an old trick that our mind insist of saying we're looking at a future that not exist and we are all confined in this mental prision Time and space but beyond that filter is eternity. [Salms 19:01]
@spiritusinfinitus
@spiritusinfinitus 5 жыл бұрын
But do we necessarily lose sense of time when we're sleeping? Is it not just perceived differently depending on our state? And it goes both ways. The waking perception of a dream in which a few minutes passed is possible whereas in our waking reality only a handful of seconds passed.
@jJust_NO_
@jJust_NO_ 5 жыл бұрын
I like it when Rupert seemed to have a hard time talking about beauty lol
@bigLOSdog
@bigLOSdog 4 жыл бұрын
That long pause is meant for us.... Get ready because I am about to hit you with something that you may want to brace for!
@atmannityananda-autognosia
@atmannityananda-autognosia 5 жыл бұрын
Time is the speed of the change of forms and all fhenomena. But the experience of how fast the phenomena are changing is subjective and depends on our state of consciousness. That's why we experience sometimes that a day passes fast and other times very slow although the whole day (from morning to evening) lasts the same time.
@danix454
@danix454 Жыл бұрын
I think that’s why he said “seems”. It’s not real, it’s based on principles that rise and fall, come and go as perceived (really, just perceiving). Vibration x frequency dictates to the mind how it experiences time, but this is also illusory and in certain states, can be modified appropriately. Hence his orange glasses example.
@laurileinonen2123
@laurileinonen2123 5 жыл бұрын
about maya too
@haunteddeandollsuk
@haunteddeandollsuk Жыл бұрын
time was a man made thing created all we know of is the “now”! when you think of the past it just memories 😢
@markbrad123
@markbrad123 5 жыл бұрын
Imagined approximations of time can be useful when adjusting speed and avoiding cars, or if your a boxer avoiding punches. Einstein's special relativity has proposed that people's senses can sense at different rates. The faster your senses, given an adrenalin rush, the slower the world moves. Special Relativity is another example of the hard problem of consciousness.
@mcdonn1111
@mcdonn1111 4 жыл бұрын
We do know time exists by the theory of time dilation. As an object approaches the speed of light, time slows down. And this has been observed with satellite clocks when compared to ground clocks. Each position is experiencing time at a different rate. Both positions are in the 'now' independently, but relatively speaking 'now' happens at different times. The satellite clock would be from the past as compared to the ground clock and vice-versa. So different times do exist, but from an independent observation, time can never be experienced outside of the 'now'.
@arvindpare8519
@arvindpare8519 Жыл бұрын
Besides Space and Time, Obect too is a limitation (desha-Kala-Vastu Parichcheda) that Mind superimposes on Infinite awareness. Varying relative timelines need not just be two but countless in which mind (of the physicist) experiences an object going through cause-n-effect relationship (Kaarana-Karya) in time-space.
@michaeldanielson3098
@michaeldanielson3098 5 жыл бұрын
Can the dark night of the soul last a lifetime? Been on the path for a while and experience gets worse and worse.
@Shazbut-he3ne
@Shazbut-he3ne 5 жыл бұрын
It happens because you're being weaned off of experience entirely. It's like life keeps tightening the screw, allowing you to get away with less and less falsehood, until you have to surrender because there's absolutely no choice. The mental interpretation will often stay negative as the mind can't feel it's own disappearance as being other than traumatic, but this gets balanced with increasing presence which holds the space of this trauma, and the actual suffering, if you don't pay attention to what the mind is saying, is not that big at all. Like this, pain leaves the psyche and you move closer to your home. And no, it won't last your whole life. I wouldn't be concerned about that though. The way forward is always right here and the final goal is always right here, so there's no need to split your focus. Thank you so much for what you're doing.
@theodorethinking
@theodorethinking 5 жыл бұрын
No, it practically can't. Besides, there are upsides to what you are experiencing. You get stronger, and it gets better.
@tahrah1980
@tahrah1980 5 жыл бұрын
A lovely response from shazbut. My perception is somewhat different. I too experienced the dark night of the soul. But I realised (my supervisor very discretely hinted) that it was my imagination (thoughts and beliefs) that was ‘creating’ the journey and the dark night of the soul. Once I realised that I was ‘creating’ my own spiritual journey and realised how I was doing it, I changed the dark night of the soul into a more pleasant annihilation. I started the practices and 9 months later I reached my destination (I feel presence at every breath) but the journey continues.....there is so much to learn. Everyone’s journey is different because it’s a creation of their own mind. YOU have the power to control the dark night of the soul.
@Vlatka211
@Vlatka211 5 жыл бұрын
Search for yourself in suffering, you will never find yourself.
@Vlatka211
@Vlatka211 5 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself, is this suffering me? I got such a relief from this question, it helped a lot.
@Aum_shantishantishanti111
@Aum_shantishantishanti111 3 жыл бұрын
That would make me the whole universe of apparent time . Now . I’m that . Am I everything ! ?
@sarahcolak9673
@sarahcolak9673 4 ай бұрын
Why do I get wrinkles in a spacetime logical order if there is no time
@tonynes3577
@tonynes3577 5 жыл бұрын
Human social society lives by the construct of time. Tomorrow when the clock says nine, I have to be at work. Maybe when we're dead without a human body we go by "no time."
@luckystroke126
@luckystroke126 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is important to be aware of the concept of time just to function in a society. Problem comes when thoughts of going to work tomorrow draw your awareness out of the present. There is no tomorrow where i have to be somewhere at nine a clock. That is just an idea which happens in a present. I just go through the motions in a present moment and when the need to go to work rises, i go there in a present moment. It is possible to be aware of the present and still plan what you are going to do at some point. It is very liberating to live from that place.
@tonynes3577
@tonynes3577 5 жыл бұрын
@@luckystroke126 THANKS FOR THIS.
@sixtyoneeight
@sixtyoneeight 5 жыл бұрын
Love this@@luckystroke126
@akshay-lifeofayogi321
@akshay-lifeofayogi321 5 жыл бұрын
Lit
@886888aa
@886888aa 5 жыл бұрын
I understand what Rupert is saying. Question. Why do I have the experience of this body aging? Even if I (relative) was in a coma for years and had no experience of time this body would still appear to age.
@wilma8326
@wilma8326 5 жыл бұрын
Because the body is a result (projection) of the believe in time so it will act accordingly. Why can you see someone aging in a movie? Because the scriptwriter put it in the script 😀
@886888aa
@886888aa 5 жыл бұрын
@@wilma8326 The first folks that walked the earth had no concept of time but somehow still aged. If we are conciseness then why do we appear to grow old and die. Awareness does not experience time I understand that but tell the body that.
@yaboiavery5986
@yaboiavery5986 3 жыл бұрын
@@886888aa there is awareness, this is timeless - we all share is, I see consciousness as simply a focus of awareness upon matter of any meduim, without a meduim like vision or thought there would be no matter for awareness to focus upon, there would be no consciousness (I use different jargon than spira) Yes true awareness, what we all share has no time because time is a measurement of movement, and there can be no movement without a meduim, therefore consciousness, the focus upon a meduim is to bring it into realization True awareness has no time, there is nothing to move, consciousness - the focus upon matter has movement because there is a meduim, and therefore there is time to measure said movement in relation to the sun (24/7/365)
@yaboiavery5986
@yaboiavery5986 3 жыл бұрын
By the way I have no idea what matter or meduim is, when I say meduim I mean that of physical, astral or mental, when I say matter I just mean stuff on these planes lol
@danix454
@danix454 Жыл бұрын
@@886888aa no, that’s not true. In Igbo traditions they said they lived for ages, operated purely off of the sun, and even could fly. You don’t know indigenous cultures well enough, or their stories. Likewise, god told Neale Donald Walsh that our bodies were meant to live forever. There are plenty of people who disregard time and are aging very well and slowly, you just don’t know about them bc they stay out of the media. They must to be able to achieve things that are not in your realm of awareness
@tonynes3577
@tonynes3577 4 жыл бұрын
Were they one of Rupert's children asking this?.
@Thiloyeah
@Thiloyeah 3 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree with the beauty and religious part, but it's a nice method however to experience the abstract parts of life.
@ikwartin
@ikwartin 5 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with Ruperts definition of time. Even though no one can physically go back to the past events but most definitely we cannot say that those events didn't happen. To measure the duration of events you need the clock movement to do that. Actually physical events have to do with the movements of objects in space but space itself does not move. Events happen in space and it is measured by the movement of the clock.
@danieldjz
@danieldjz 3 ай бұрын
He didn't say the past didn't happen. The past only lives within our minds.
@shiningfaceofluzon5594
@shiningfaceofluzon5594 4 ай бұрын
So when we pass away, it would be as though we never were alive to begin with.
@Hei.d12b
@Hei.d12b 21 күн бұрын
Practice mindfulness with equinimity, thereby can remain within the period of silence, the bridge between transition and fading, mindless, to better shift to next life.
@tonynes3577
@tonynes3577 5 жыл бұрын
You experience thousands of memories therefore you experience thousands of "pasts." No? But only one Now.
@clarencehui9448
@clarencehui9448 3 жыл бұрын
12:18!
@TheAdbeckers
@TheAdbeckers 4 жыл бұрын
We can't experience the past clearly, but it was experienced then was it not? We age, so surely time is a real measure of our bodies reality of entropy?
@yaboiavery5986
@yaboiavery5986 3 жыл бұрын
I see time as a social construct to measure if there's light outside, time is relative, it measures movement, the time we use in society is in relation to the sun/moon movement In theory you could take something that always has the same velocity, and build a construct of time around it, let's say dogs run at 20mph, you could use this to measure other periods of movement, you could make your own time in relation to this Now - I have no clue what half the stuff he's saying here is and quite frankly it's not making sense, but I hope I helped someone in someway
@dorianshaffer7120
@dorianshaffer7120 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't beauty also be distorted by those lenses?
@timjonesvideos
@timjonesvideos 5 жыл бұрын
If the infinite self can never know the finite self and the finite self can never know the infinite self, then how does enlightenment (which implies partaking of both) ever happen?
@pankajgarg6425
@pankajgarg6425 5 жыл бұрын
it doesnt , its already one . Finiteness is perception , Infinite is reality .
@yarik6591
@yarik6591 3 жыл бұрын
What about time that is passing through Now. For example: we experience morning as now then midday a now then afternoon as now and so on. Time is passing as Now. What about that? Can somebody answer?
@varshithkh
@varshithkh 3 жыл бұрын
There is only NOW. The NOW moment is getting transformed as morning, noon, evening and night. When this change is filtered through the mind, it creates the illusion of passage of time.
@yarik6591
@yarik6591 3 жыл бұрын
@@varshithkh thank you for the reply. But I can call the transformation you mentioned as time passing through the NOW. My question remains the same: as the NOW transforms through the day the time obviously does the same. It looks like the NOW and time walk together through eternity.
@arvindpare8519
@arvindpare8519 Жыл бұрын
@@yarik6591 " It looks like the NOW and time walk together through eternity." It surely looks that way. However, time (past-present-future) doesn't exist without the timeless Awareness called Now whereas Now exists independent of time. Take the metaphor of pot (time) and clay (Now).
@theodorethinking
@theodorethinking 5 жыл бұрын
'When we're asleep'. What do you mean by 'when', Rupert? Are you referencing the past, or the future?
@delcapslock100
@delcapslock100 5 жыл бұрын
Referencing our memory of the past, which creates the expectation that events will occur in the future. The past and future do not exist. Our (present) memory of the past is very real, as is our present expectation that events will occur in the future.
@theodorethinking
@theodorethinking 5 жыл бұрын
What you are describing is temporal solipsism, and it is as narrow minded as spatial solipsism is. But even so, what then is the present memory of the past? Is it imagination? Hasn't the thing that memory pertains to occured?
@delcapslock100
@delcapslock100 5 жыл бұрын
@@theodorethinking Personally I find philosophical categories to be at best useless and at worst self-serving ("narrow-mindedness" nothwithstanding). There's a barrier to answering the new question you shifted to, in that it requires me to describe why space/time doesn't exist using language that inherently assumes it does. T It becomes very easy to set up and fall into "gotcha!" traps. That said, I would say that memories are basically models of experience that are referred to (in the present) in order to allow us to function in the illusory world of space/time. The space/time/materialism model allows us to have a human experience, but like all models has limitations, and doesn't necessarily reflect "reality". I'm pretty much a novice at this understanding, so that's all I got for now.
@theodorethinking
@theodorethinking 5 жыл бұрын
I find unworkable theories about the non-existence of time useless, but those are preferences. How do you reconcile change in your experience with the non-existence of time? Maybe we should define time first. Anyway, as both Rupert and his teacher, Francis has reacted to personal solipsism, with the attitude of 'the solipsist may think that he is the only mind in the universe, but the rest of the world knows he is wrong'. That's why I said, 'no time' is solipsism's temporal cousin. You may think there's no time but clocks (and whatever changes) practically disagree.
@delcapslock100
@delcapslock100 5 жыл бұрын
@@theodorethinking Ok :)
@richstureman4229
@richstureman4229 3 жыл бұрын
🙏❤️🌈
@johnnylovessheki
@johnnylovessheki 5 жыл бұрын
There is only one mind, a human has a collection of imprints of experience, the concept time is a tool of our ability to reason, when reason is thrown down by connection to the intelligence that the seeming world arises from through the sleep, happy or meditative state, time (our measurement of change) is revealed as false
@danielabacciotti4756
@danielabacciotti4756 5 жыл бұрын
per favore sottotili anche in italiano grazie.
@johnnylovessheki
@johnnylovessheki 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielabacciotti4756 spiacente, no Italiano
@theodorethinking
@theodorethinking 5 жыл бұрын
If we only take our, only our, current, only current experience, then reality is one-dimensional, and really, really limited. It's an instantaneous limited lump of experience that doesn't have room for other experience other than our limited moment self's, let alone other minds' or the universe.
@arvindpare8519
@arvindpare8519 Жыл бұрын
It's the mind looking at the Eternal Now as one moment sandwiched between past and present :)
@theodorethinking
@theodorethinking Жыл бұрын
@@arvindpare8519 Is that an experience, or is it a theory?
@SwadhyayaMysoreArvind
@SwadhyayaMysoreArvind Жыл бұрын
​@@theodorethinking dear Theodore, my experience will be same as yours -- an instantaneous limited lump, frightening even :) So, allow the mind it's intrinsic limitation of time and experience the universe and others' experiences. 🙏
@theodorethinking
@theodorethinking Жыл бұрын
@@SwadhyayaMysoreArvind When will that happen? In the future?
@arvindpare8519
@arvindpare8519 Жыл бұрын
@@theodorethinking Please read your original comment for reference as you read this answer. Mind is constrained to think within a three walled prison of Space-Time-Object. If it sounds like a theory, try thinking without these three dimensions...mind gets stunned. When you talk of "instant"aneous lump of experience and therefore being unable to accommodate either the universe or other people's experiences, my guess is your not allowing time which is a flow past-present-future or alternatively you can say that you are not allowing mind space. When they talk of remaining in the present, that's to be understood like this: What is the length of the present moment? A minute? A second? A milli-second? A nano second? So really the content of Present is your Presence...You as timeless awareness are aware of time whereas time is not aware of you. 🙏
@alfogel3298
@alfogel3298 5 жыл бұрын
“ confusing but makes sense”. Yes, one word describes the Truth: paradoxical. As far as the “mind”: it must vanish before God Realization is attained. The Mind doesn’t want to be destroyed. That’s why it is so difficult to experience being awake in all states ( including deep sleep ) continuously without a break ( for most only in deep sleep is Reality experienced, ( unconsciously) but then we return to the so-called awake state which is nothing more than illusion that the mind calls reality. Avatar Meher Baba said it best when he stated: “Mind wants to know that which is beyond mind. To know that which is beyond mind, mind must go-vanish, leaving no vestige of itself behind. The humour of it is, the mind, which is finite, wants to retain itself and yet know Truth, which is infinite. This is the position of those who seek Truth through intellect. Few grasp this fact, and so most grope and grapple in vain” -Meher Baba
@FilmBritt
@FilmBritt 3 жыл бұрын
How can it be the experience of moment right now if there is no time for it to be?
@maikelnait4495
@maikelnait4495 3 жыл бұрын
As I understood it , the NOW is everlasting stretched ”nowness” if it makes sense.
@FilmBritt
@FilmBritt 3 жыл бұрын
But the question remains; how can it be movement if there is no time for it to be in? Or is the movement only a seeming movement, actually not existing?! I have never heard Spira has talked about it.
@maikelnait4495
@maikelnait4495 3 жыл бұрын
@@FilmBritt I think You actually fuond an answer to the question. The more I listen to these guys and contemplate, the less I know. Not that I give them total authority but the amount of perspectives is growing rapidly. The question for me is, is it possible to even explain existense? Or are we just memorizing eachothers primitive explanations?
@yaboiavery5986
@yaboiavery5986 3 жыл бұрын
@@FilmBritt I have the same question, have you found the answer?
@FilmBritt
@FilmBritt 3 жыл бұрын
@@yaboiavery5986, no! I would love to hear Spira explain how it can be sensations and perceptions despite the non-existence of time....
@theodorethinking
@theodorethinking 5 жыл бұрын
Just because a skier sees the snow as being only of the color orange, that absolutely doesn't mean that the snow has no color. It just means that you can only see orange, out of all the colors that the snow white contains. That very example shows you that the limitation of the mind doesn't mean that colors (or time) doesn't exist, just that we only see a part of it.
@tonynes3577
@tonynes3577 4 жыл бұрын
If there is only the NOW, why does human society, humans, live for the future? Ie. Get an education, get a career, make money and work now to have a better future. ...Ah the paradox of life...
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