Time to save some LIVES [The Forgotten City - Part II]

[@shanna9821]

I appreciate “Part II” being in Roman numerals. Very in-character.

[@takimi_nada]

i hope this game is really long so there's gonna be "part XXVII" or something like that lmao

[@andrewamp1]

I'm waiting for part LXIX.

[@AngeliqueStP]

Omg... dealing with that bow guy is like talking to every 'argument bro' on Twitter.

[@703aSpen]

The golden statues were really just like "Do a flip" when you walked to the edge lmao

[@SmokyVols]

Love the direction and content on this channel, stockholders are enjoying some incredible dividends!!

[@blueboltshrimp]

absolutely losing it at "oh nooo.... I don't mean to worry you, but that's absolutely not normal" adjshkfldashfsdah

[@ntp4003]

Rufius with the homophobia inducing rheumatism 😂

[@saejurlan6279]

I get the feeling he's repressed based on the fact he has two male statues in his room, and the rheumatism is just an easy out with this rando staring him down, holding medicine in his face

[@Fuzzysea693]

@@saejurlan6279also the phallic “charm” or whatever it is to protect himself 😂

[@saejurlan6279]

@@scoobydoom the character in question is using rheumatism as an excuse, yes. The game is hinting that he’s gay himself, which is what me and FuzzySea were pointing out. This happens in the real world pretty often, so even without the manly statues and phallic charm in his room, it would still be a fair guess that he is. The game just wants to make sure by adding the details for us.

[@saejurlan6279]

@@scoobydoom I’m now mostly convinced this is a troll/joke somehow, but in case it isn’t, that is not how homophobia works. But, this is a fictional story, and I can’t tell for certain if you’re thinking this cures homophobia in real life or not, so sure we can say Rufius has cured his internal homophobia. Good for him!

[@MegaCatsie]

Everyone in this thread is the assassin in the bath house.

[@QRadde]

I love John’s videos more than ever. I’m so happy with the games he’s been playing, the length, and how much happier he seems.

[@Hydplant]

Wasn't sure what to expect initially, even though I usually trust Sinow's judgement on games since he enjoys a lot of what I do, but it's really cool so far. Love that Skyrim vibe, and while a looping mechanic can be annoying, it's done pretty well here; retaining your items and knowledge makes it way better than it could've been. Liking the mystery too. This stockholder is very happy with the channel, as always. :)

[@tuckbruise]

I'm definitely going to rewatch this series, lots to miss in that first portion

[@TheBigjimable]

Maybe Domitius will take that bottle of wine you found to let you speak to Maeleolus?

[@meghanwilliams2757]

Thats what I thought too

[@bamitslori9750]

That or the leftover money.

[@keilamarie4]

He will take neither, I won't say what it is he will take, but it's not made clear by the game at all.

[@Deviantel]

@@keilamarie4 the playthrough ended a while ago 😄

[@keilamarie4]

@@Deviantel Sure, but for anyone watching in the future, like I did, then I'm still not spoiling anything :)

[@Emily-xk2du]

John gleefully chasing Sentius to the shrine and his acting for "Ulpius making me GULPIUS" were my favorite parts of the video lol. I'm really digging the puzzle solving and the mystery in this, although I think (NO SPOILERS) I figured at least one part of it out, who "Karen" is. It wasn't until one of the patterns John's character mentioned to Equitia that I had my big eureka moment. I'm not sure if that's the one doing everything though, because there's nothing QUITE like that (to my knowledge) in the Greco-Roman mythology lore that would tie in with what's going on here.

[@typefeisu]

obsessed with this and all of their problems

[@Sirene1134]

John being determined to do everything by the book and get money for things is so honorable. And his hatred of the statues 🤣

[@zz0ra721]

"tell it to someone who cares!" cracked me up

[@SilkyLew]

I was the complete opposite. I probably went through the loop a thousand times😂😂😂

[@aljapone13]

i’ve become much more invested in this series with every loop

[@ZephImmortal]

The way I yelled when he said "what if I just did it" and then... didn't. 😭

[@Arusei]

Honestly I didn't know what to think at first but this time loop stuff is great LOL

[@waitforthefruits]

YES! I really enjoyed part 1 and have been eagerly anticipating the follow up! I'm not sure exactly what it is about this game that I find so relaxing, but it irons out the sharp edges in my brain soo good lol

[@TizBaz5]

If I'm not misremembering, aspirin can really be made from Willow bark.

[@XcaramelloX]

I've never seen this game before but I'm so invested in the story. I'm excited for the next video.

[@saejurlan6279]

I foresee being able to trick the assassin to die in the collapsing shrine, and I have a feeling Malleolous' guard dog will want the wine as tribute

[@tomsense404]

I know you disregard the voice guiding you, but it REALLY wanted you to follow Ulpius down, taking a leap of faith into Malleolus’s pool from above… You said no before, several times, but perhaps reconsider? I also think talking to the assassin is a great idea! (I haven’t played this before, but I think I see where doing that would lead, based on one of your good deeds. Also, maybe it’s possible to resolve Hannibal’s story, based on a different one of your good deeds) Brilliant game!

[@annab8317]

"It's like the first Dhar Man video" LOL

[@cheepytiger]

- sucks teeth - "Yeeep, looks like you've got a cave-philosopher down there. Reaaaaal nasty, never come out easy. Likely run ya around £1,000 to get him out. 'Course that doesn't include all the torch removal, and if you don't get all o' _them_ out, well, you'll just end up with another one moving in."

[@astupidmonkeyygaming544]

I think this is Purgatory. Probably wrong, but that would explain what drove her mad. It would also explain them be shadows.

[@meghanwilliams2757]

My boyfriend and I watched both videos and we’re thinking, what if you tell the assassin that the dude he is looking for is in that temple that collapses. That would get rid of him for sure and you wouldn’t be killing.

[@Hatykins]

I'm pretty sure John said in the shareholder video that this was prerecorded but I wonder if the way into the villa is the "leap of faith" the whispering voice kept yappin about and into the pool

[@jm75937]

Good thing John has Kimmy, he's striking out with Aurelia! Got no rizz! 😆

[@rachedenO]

Didn't expect to get so hooked on this playthrough! I love how Galerius becomes errand boy 😂 Can't wait for the next episode

[@Unperceivable]

I loved your content as a young teen and continue to love it as an adult. No matter what you do, you continue to inspire and entertain! Love your content forever!

[@utadaaah8350]

LMAO! John your accent reading the letter is SOOOO GOOD!!! 😂😂😂 i need more of that

[@Eeeeelly]

I am so invested in this mystery! First loop i was like 'hot damn, here we go!' 😂

[@kathie_explores]

Same!

[@dikiyobadikiyora981]

When you figure out how to get the bow, head over to Desius right away. It unlocks a quest that is different from the rest of the game. It's my favorite part.

[@samwisegamgee1243]

I thought this game would be like "LA Noire" in Rome which was already intriguing to me, but the time loop and timed quests aspects make it even more interesting and thrilling! Thanks for playing this John, I'm excited to see what happens next!

[@crimsonknightsoul]

This game is super interesting. The looping is really cool. Can't wait to watch the next part!

[@jamesm-sl3oc]

Ever since part 1 I’ve been excited for you to drop part 2. I’m enjoying this play through a lot so far.

[@hannahcarwardine1779]

Kept checking throughout today for part 2!! Let’s goooooo!!

[@JohnTwolfe]

Just FYI, videos come out at the exact same time every day! 2pm Central

[@Daffelia_1]

​@@JohnTwolfe shhh don't ruin the mystery for us, John!

[@paytvn]

Great video as always, Jern. I'm really loving this playthrough

[@FluffyThieves]

Can we talk about how Desius has Patches' voice actor from the Souls series and it's a perfect choice

[@FluffyThieves]

@@ImpalerVladTepes Wow, I'm apparently wrong as hell. They sound *so* similar.

[@rainykanon]

This is such a cool concept! I'm really enjoying it

[@MK68-419]

Surprisingly fun to watch you play this game, I dig it.

[@jasminliberty6082]

Loving the variety of games you’re playing, Jern! 🙂 Would love to see more games that follow this mystery/problem solving style.

[@csongorkakuk5871]

I think this game's music is heavily inspiried by and similar to some of the elven melodies from LotR. Which is pretty fitting, as the setting is also sort of reminiscent of Rivendell, with an ancient Roman repaint. Gives off soothing vibes, in spite of the eery main theme of the story.

[@ntp4003]

Not John breaking the golden rule by stealing Aurelia's key but not even bothering to open her chest with it first before resetting the loop😂 Edit: he got to it eventually and it was great loool

[@Matt-ee9zc]

Or leaving the damning blackmail on her within the chest

[@starwriter_xoxo]

John! Two hints for progress: 1. Leap of Faith 2. Talk to the assassin again!

[@safira_x]

Loving the politics and scheming of this game! I remember watching Jacob Geller's essay on the original mod this game is based on (definitely recommend) and feeling so intrigued at the time. Very serendipitous that you'd end up playing it!

[@interestingusername306]

My god I love Jacob Geller

[@Argacyan]

I'm kinda surprised that John never heard who Nemesis is, given that the god of justified revenge is one of the gods games do tend to reference beyond just this one.

[@qaqbqc1005]

Glad a ghost energy drink has made an appearance in the video!!!

[@JohnTwolfe]

yep I have been a red bull exclusive drinker for 10+ years but... consider me converted

[@qaqbqc1005]

@@JohnTwolfeme too me too… their can designs and tastes are impeccable

[@AlbinoAxolotl]

This is SO good I can’t even get over it.

[@dikiyobadikiyora981]

Spoilers for getting into Malleolus' villa. . . . . . . You can jump from the cliff into the villa pool (and survive, unlike Ulpius). That's why the statues keep commenting "leap of faith." Or, the really easy way, since you have money now, is to give Domitius 1,000 Denarii in exchange for the key.

[@celloafterdark4173]

I was just thinking this game is super relaxing and then you took a nap 😂. I'm loving this playthrough!

[@jijibunny198]

DULI, MY BOY!!!!!! I love Duli so much, I remember being so pissed that these people wrongully imprisoned a disabled man and somehow that isn't a sin. Poor sweet Duli.

[@jadedcode8953]

I wasnt expecting this game to hook me in so much. I can't wait for John to beat the game 👍

[@jadesmith417]

The Golden Rule being broken was pretty scary. I like the time loop - you can redo all the mistakes you make, and not worry about the time limit. There’s some connection between Kherty and Karen. Are they the same person, or same entity? Sentius is so eager to die so the player can get a redo. Aurelia won’t be attracted to the player until the end, I guess. The assassin is so annoying! I bet Jesus Christ is the right answer - he may think your a Christian and can’t be in the cult. I was wrong about the lover! I wonder if you tell them about Sentilla’s fate, will they stop their attempt? I wondered if Ulpius was a clue as to what happened to Iulia. I had no idea Aurelia was like that. I’m surprised that theft of money and freedom to live isn’t counted as a sin. Octavia barely tried to intervene with Ulpius - she took two steps and then just stared. They should have been that you have to select “I think I know the sinner” before you can make Sentinus act.

[@kathie_explores]

Loving this content we get with this game! Im hooked in the storyline of getting more clues as you progress woth loops, and the exploring of the town and what secrets it hides. And the music is a plus!

[@bhakthyjose1256]

I always had check your channel to watch new uploads. Today the algorithm has blessed me with this video on my feed. Best day 🎉

[@LexiiB]

Loving this series, cant wait for part 3. Youre probably already passed this but on the off chance you havent, try giving the wine you got as a tribute to domitius. excited to see more!

[@witchingjokress]

I somehow have the feeling this city is some kind of afterlife or purgatory.

[@Lanana-ielstitis]

Aurelia is impossible to please 😂

[@carolynfaulkner4839]

The whole river part of the story reminds me of the Charon who brought people to the underworld in Greek mythology. Maybe it's Hades who's involved somehow? But this is Rome...hmm

[@ViewTifuLKat777]

Sorry but I became a lil concerned when John kept looking his arm during the ending of the video😅 hope you were alright John 😊 thanks for the upload!👍

[@CrystalMorningdove]

Your channel is my go-to channel bro

[@liio415]

You don’t have to do everything by the book ya know 😉 Loving this playthrough!!!

[@aldodejellyfish177]

I am a happy shareholder

[@Freebie88]

I’m excited to keep watching this play through I’m really interested in the story

[@everdormant3568]

I bet helmet boy will take the wine as a bribe

[@cheepytiger]

I commented on the last video about 'Karen', and I think my suspicions are being validated slowly. Theory below! Everyone is waking up after an incident that would/could have killed them, and by a river with Karen/Charon. All of them make a note of having coins, like the ones you use to pay the ferryman. It seems to me this is some sort of afterlife/purgatory/underworld going on, especially with the earlier mention of Demeter causing famine when Persephone was taken to the underworld by Hades, and the tale of the elderly couple (taken from a greek myth with Zeus and Hermes conducting the test if I'm not mistaken). So maybe it's a test to see where you end up in the afterlife? I'm not sure how it's linked to the 'Gold' thing so far as I can only think of the Midas connection. 🤔

[@waitforthefruits]

Fully agree!

[@interestingusername306]

Also Livia keeps speaking about Cerberus and this place sucking up people like an ocean does to raindrops. AND Sisyphus (the guy with the boulder) is one of the golden statues, or at least somebody was imitating him.

[@ibby1295]

this has been great so far

[@tismyusername]

So excited to see you play this game :D

[@awesomekittypower]

I'm really enjoying your playthrough of this game so far, the mystery is interesting!!

[@itsBASILLICUS]

i'm late getting to this series but i'm having a great time watching it now that i'm here!!

[@ShaniyaRena]

Two hour video? Hell yeah

[@GingerDangr]

I *just* finished the original Skyrim mod last night, the 2nd time I've ever played it through, and it's so interesting to see what they kept or expanded on vs what they didn't compared to this version.

[@Taraeightthousand]

another awesome part! I like that it's like a whodunnit for the god it could be - that we find out via one character that suicide doesn't break the golden rule, which opens up the possibility that iulia's death was suicide (shortly to be confirmed after) but then that it's clearly not the Christian God. Such a cool premise! Also the grab n loop aspect is a fun mechanic :D though I wonder if it's at all possible to complete the game without breaking the golden rule yourself resultingly...

[@thepenitence]

1:37:00 Hopefully you figured it out at some point, but Nemesis is the Greek goddess of justice and vengeance. Typically portrayed with weight scales to weight the sins of others, and blindfolded to embody blind justice, stuff like that.

[@normahidup]

Bet that wine could do something useful 🤔

[@Booksabaking]

Loving the mystery of this! ❤

[@Stephonne]

"wish i had a gun." Lmao!

[@Deviantel]

You've got several entrances into Malleolus' villa, some of them already presented to you :) Listen to the voice instead of telling it to shut up all the time. :D

[@avidwriter2882]

I think it's Galius? The first guy you meet, if you look his eyes look blue but one is very slightly not as blue.

[@magebabe7613]

This has really sucked me in! I kept hoping you would try jumping off that point like the voices say. They've been helpful so far, so I have to believe it's a hint. Then again they could just be trolling, who knows. I keep trying to figure out how on earth you'd make the vines support your weight. It's not like we can strengthen them right?

[@avidwriter2882]

New theory : Everyone is already dead.

[@tuckbruise]

My last comment on the first vid: umm i dont get it why are we excited about talk to people simulator My comment on this vid: ....OHHHHH. I get why people like it now lol Always glad to watch John, sometimes i end up getting hooked on stuff!

[@FluffyThieves]

Yeah, the heavy dialogue is only really in the beginning while you're getting to know everyone

[@Argacyan]

@@FluffyThieves You're not just getting to know everyone, there's a bunch of philosophy which is ideally supposed to make a player think too & that also makes it kind of a shame when somebody's first instinct is to think of it as a talking simulator as if words are animal noises with no meaning.

[@tuckbruise]

@@Argacyan It's really not that deep. Maybe if the dialogue was more engaging i would have been more... engaged in that first portion.

[@Argacyan]

@@tuckbruise Either it isn't deep, or there's something you're not seeing that other people are seeing. If the dialogue is made to be engaging or not.

[@graffitibot1792]

Anyone know what happens if you jump after Ulpius?

[@urielgrey]

Wooo hoooo thanks John 😊 😊 😊 😊 😊

[@Fuzzysea693]

Pleaseee keep playing this cause I love this playthrough!!! I’m fascinated by Ancient Rome and I wanna know who the god is and why you keep going back in time!!

[@janikarkkainen3904]

Oh wow... the assassin is so frustrating!

[@RR-on4sk]

I really like this one

[@PhlightYagami]

Hey John, if you're enjoying this game, you should play Outer Wilds. It's a masterpiece that has a lot of similarities to this. You'll find many people calling it their favorite game of all time for a reason. Loving this playthrough...the mystery has me hooked. Looking forward to episode III.

[@melanied917]

This game is just so cool

[@sutefani13]

Looking forward to this!

[@shinku3]

Nemesis is the goddess of retribution.

[@everlilies]

Loving the game so far!!!

[@raw_bin]

Nemesis is the embodiment of revenge iirc, sometimes also delivering divine vengeance?

[@ntp4003]

Can't wait til John plays Hades 2 and meet sexy Nemesis

[@Bhubnipz]

After watching the first episode and the first 18 minutes of this one, I think I figured it out. Most, if not all, of the characters in this game are different versions of two people. Either of a man (you) or the woman who saved you. I don’t know who you or her were at the beginning of this journey but at this point multiple loops and loops within loops have led to them basically replicating themselves within this paradox. When you ask a woman how she arrived at the city, she’ll tell a story exactly the same as yours except it’s a man who saved her instead of a woman. Encouraging them towards the path that leads them to the city. Isn’t it strange how all the woman look similar to the woman who saved you and all the men look similar to each other? I look forward to finding out how they came to be two people trapped in an eternal bootstrap loop, trying to find each other again.

[@littlekitsune1]

If everyone's obeying a Karen, I'm going to lose it.

[@valveillen]

yay another update!!

[@LeValdrian]

So excited!

[@cheepytiger]

Excited!! :D

[@jadedcode8953]

Im not sure why the protagonist wont tell an actual SOLDIER with FIGHTING experience that an ASSASSIN is there to KILL them!!

[@gnolex86]

Because nobody has weapons due to order of the magistrate and the assassin has bow and arrows.

[@ntp4003]

Because fighting him would break the golden rule and kill everyone

[@NanaLunaTik]

🎉🎉🎉

[@ElizabethAftontheicecreamgirl]

Oh beautiful video you made and it was enjoyable and the designs in the game and can't wait to see play it 😊😊😮😊😮(⁠☆⁠▽⁠☆⁠)