My grandfather worked as maintenance crew on the bison back in the day, pretty sweet machine
@ethan-wz1oy2 ай бұрын
Sir please do not redeem the card
@Remarite2 ай бұрын
@@ethan-wz1oy saaar pls do not redeem the data linked R27
@One90972Ай бұрын
Is it in past tense because he redeemed the card?
@roadrunner_noxe879329 күн бұрын
@@ethan-wz1oyget a life
@Anzuu_r2 ай бұрын
The British F-20. Literally. I kinda hoped for gaijin not pumping a rank 7-8 premium every update, regardless if ground or air vehicle 😭
@Minebrawlzzz2 ай бұрын
It is a better f4junk so better option for UK grind
@hoijiang17912 ай бұрын
@@Minebrawlzzzbut it cant bomb bases
@No_Feelings2 ай бұрын
@@hoijiang1791 If you're taking bombs on a fighter to grind out a tech tree you shouldn't have said fighter
@TheTfrules2 ай бұрын
@@hoijiang1791 If you're unable to use a spaded fighter as a fighter in top tier RB, then you aren't ready for top tier RB
@hoijiang17912 ай бұрын
@@No_Feelings I’m not talking about how they perform in Air RB game just the grind efficiency. The f4j can take out 2 bases with rocket pods and still carrying all its missiles. I still think the f4j f4e and f4s are the fastest grinder in the game considering their load outs
@steve96362 ай бұрын
Just love how you give context and history.
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
My hope is to make players care about the plane as something a little more than a points grinder, and personally I find that having a sense of a vehicle's "real world" context makes me enjoy using it more.
@mikerobin76002 ай бұрын
"Do not redeem " ahh jet
@kentoncompton30092 ай бұрын
Ahhh I see you’re a man of culture.
@xxxzod3332 ай бұрын
"SIR WHY DID YOU REDEEM IT NO NO SIR" ahh 70$
@eyo87662 ай бұрын
"I STEVE WATSON WILL NOT BUY THE 70$ JET"
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for my investment in CrowPro to pay off. Diamond hands!
@roadrunner_noxe879329 күн бұрын
The amount of racism that is normalized against the indians 😮
@ryankeyes31012 ай бұрын
Now they have to give us the Mig-21 Lancer.
@arbitercs2 ай бұрын
question is for which tech tree? could be germany since the had romanian stuff but i think it got moved to italy?(idk dont remember)
@ryankeyes31012 ай бұрын
@@arbitercs Italy could work or it could got to the Russian Tech Tree.
@sooryan_10182 ай бұрын
Italy does have a Romanian WW2 plane, so Italy fits
@ak3pm3782 ай бұрын
The dripping sarcasm from your voice in 3:00 warms my heart as an indian lmfao
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
I haven't forgotten the history, even if the snail has ...
@ak3pm3782 ай бұрын
@TimsVariety all is fair in war and snail apparently, a small doubt. I'm one plane away from usa jets and I'm researching the squadron me262. Which tree is gonna help me learn jets better, Germany or usa? Also do you have a discord server we can join? Love your channel and content btw!
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
@@ak3pm378 For my 5 cents, I'd say the USA tree mostly because it has a lot of different *types* of aircraft sooner into the jet tiers. No discord server at the moment, I don't have the time to manage/moderate one.
@Вольфрамище2 ай бұрын
babe, new Tim's Variety video dropped !
@TheOreoOverlord2 ай бұрын
No views 6 likes, checks out
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
I've found all those numbers to be horribly unreliable during the first hour or so. The stats it shows me on the back end are usually nowhere near the stats it shows on the video viewing page until the following day. No idea why YT can't count in two places at the same time ....
@charliezw32872 ай бұрын
I was all 10 of em :)
@danielzaba99132 ай бұрын
2 views in 7 seconds, bro fell off.
@valic36342 ай бұрын
@@danielzaba9913at least he’s trying
@srgtlame33612 ай бұрын
@@TimsVariety We love you tim
@KaguyasBeat2 ай бұрын
This is the first plane that actually relies on original R-27's cuz everything else that has them... uses them for a short time until they unlock the Extended Range versions. The R's do ok with selective shots roughly 5 to 8km... but they do pull very hard for not having a very strong motor so opponents can actually outmaneuver it simply because they keep the missile from getting up to speed. The T's I love using for rear aspect shots. Basically impossible to flare if they aren't able to change aspect quick enough. It does have IRCCM as well in the same way the R-73 does (It's also just more sensitive to aircraft when looking at them rear aspect just like the 73). Generally for the rear shot I'd aim for later Sidewinder ranges: 2.5 - 3km max if both planes are past Mach. From my own personal experiences using them.
@jayaang41762 ай бұрын
The yak-41 can only carry 2 r-27extended range missiles so it kinda half relies on the regular ones technically but yeah interesting point
@KaguyasBeatАй бұрын
@@jayaang4176 Yea that's how I usually fly it. 2 ER's and 2 T's. Sometimes I'll take the ET's and run a full IR build, which obviously greatly increases the range you can use them but, same rules generally apply for their use as with the regular T's. They're pretty easily flared if it's not direct rear aspect.
@spooderp10742 ай бұрын
ooh, plane
@CatOfCulture2 ай бұрын
Man, I wish we get the Folland Gnat/HAL Ajeet (upgraded Gnat) in the tech tree. It'd be absolutely great. BTW, just as the MiG-21's Western counterpart, the F-104 earned the "Widowmaker" moniker for the high number of casualties due to crashes and such, the MiG-21 earned the same thing here in India.
@vaclavkolar6750Ай бұрын
I pray for Gayjin adding the Gnat for about 2 years now. Still nothing...
@Inual2 ай бұрын
Thank you once more for your quick overview of a new vehicle. =) You are part of what makes the community shine.
@jimbobhootenanny44402 ай бұрын
Thanks tim!
@Lazor2172 ай бұрын
man you gotta get a decal eventually, your content is way too good to not have a decal
@Android_ELITE2 ай бұрын
it’ll be cool to hopefully see india get their own tree down the line as more modern vehicles get added; it could start around rank 6 similar to how israel starts at rank 4, and they can handle already-owned vehicles the same as well
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
I've sent feedback to the snail at LEAST a dozen times that India deserves its own rank4+ tree, same as Israel got .. but nope .. instead they give all the Indian stuff to the British, without any regard for the history between those two nations ..... **shrugs**
@sooryan_10182 ай бұрын
India does have atleast 2 indigenous air vehicles (Marut, Rank 6 and Tejas, Rank 8/9) so it kinda fits imo
@starliner24982 ай бұрын
@@sooryan_1018 not to mention all the other jets are heavily modified to IAF specs so even if they look similar from the outside, they're very different in terms of avionics and stuff
@fate30712 ай бұрын
Didn't gaijin say that they won't be making any more rank 4+ trees? Not that their word is worth anything
@sooryan_10182 ай бұрын
@@fate3071 time passes and things change And the game stuck at Rank 4 would just suck, and the game would have died long ago
@jaredfredericks14602 ай бұрын
Love the history you teach us about the awesome planes Tim thanks are keep going please.
@RedTail1-12 ай бұрын
I love how whenever I see someone with the ROKAF squadron tag they are always crashing on purpose to avoid someone getting a kill...
@jazzbacks33562 ай бұрын
I got 7 kills with this thing yesterday in one game and in 5 matches got 24 kills
@SemiLobster2 ай бұрын
Great video as usual Tim! I hope someday the snail puts in the LanceR and JL-9/FTC-2000 and we can have an 'Ultimate Fishbed battle'
@user-ey7jt9uw2s2 ай бұрын
What about Jeff?
@farmcat98732 ай бұрын
Damn GooD Paint Job(Miami Hurricanes/Dolphies colors) on that Mig-21 👍 and great review like always. I can't say I Tim's Variety has ever given a bad one ever. Good work......
@CatOfCulture2 ай бұрын
Dawg that's the Indian flag 😭
@ALPHA17I2 ай бұрын
I like that you added the counterfeit currency at the end which reads 'FULL ON MASTI' translating to, full entertainment for all e.g., you are out with family or friends at the beach or something. While you are saying it is too pricey. 😆
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
Stock images ftw ;-)
@ALPHA17I2 ай бұрын
@@TimsVariety indeed, indeed. Thanks for intro'ing with a bit of history about the MiG 21's service in the IAF. Cheers!
@Tanks.With.Teeth.Malloy2 ай бұрын
I plan on getting this when it eventually goes on sale if it ever does lol. The mig-21 has always been my favorite sovite jet, and he Bison is legendary. So excited this got added to the game.
@kentoncompton30092 ай бұрын
It will by next Christmas most likely.
@sidtasker29372 ай бұрын
Next time it will be on sale is June 2025 or past that, gaijin only sells premiums on sale 1 year after release
@kentoncompton30092 ай бұрын
@@sidtasker2937 na I’m pretty sure it’s two updates later
@fate30712 ай бұрын
@sidtasker2937 it's 2 updates after release, same for the 50% off SL sales
@sidtasker29372 ай бұрын
Well the snail still probably won’t do a sale straight away after 2 updates
@ObusPerduYT2 ай бұрын
Thanks Tim
@FR01Z2 ай бұрын
I will never forgive HAL and MIG for not putting the GSh-30-2 and the RD-93MA on the bison, it would be the ice o the cake for this beast
@starliner24982 ай бұрын
There's no point when the airframe is so outdated, it's time to let these jets go
@FR01Z2 ай бұрын
@@starliner2498 say these for that poor F-16 Pakistani pilot 😂
@CatOfCulture2 ай бұрын
Nah, honestly the MiG-21 has done enough, better to phase em all out for the Tejas Mk1A
@sadfrog57872 ай бұрын
0 evidence btw@@FR01Z
@starliner24982 ай бұрын
@@CatOfCulture agreed, Tejas Mk 1a and Mk 2 are the future now
@Lucarionape2 ай бұрын
I’m a British main, currently grinding with the FGR. 2 (+ talisman), and have honestly burnt out from all the missiles I can’t dodge (yes, I’m a bad player, I transitioned to air after hitting the Challenger 2 grindstone for too long). When I heard we were going to get a premium I thought that maybe I’d be in the queue for it to try something new if it was cheap to mid priced, maybe even 60€ if it would go on sale. This being Tier VIII and 75€ has put paid to that. Guess I’ll just wait it out and buy a new batch of premium when a sale roles around and I have the money to spare. Thanks for the video Tim.
@inotetsu76562 ай бұрын
I love this jet because its free SL and RP for my F4E
@Ashok03052 ай бұрын
Tim doing video on the indian version of mig 21 , Great 👍 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@tabsrus18572 ай бұрын
I can't believe the British are still taking things from India.
@fijapopovic53352 ай бұрын
There are czech and slovak vehicles in the soviet techtree as well
@zanaduz20182 ай бұрын
Or the newly added Belgian/Dutch planes in the French aircraft tree?
@DaveyCooter2 ай бұрын
I was excited when I heard they were adding the Bison...then of course it's a billion dollar premium.
@antonmancia20962 ай бұрын
Seems we are going to get a 75 dollar premium every next update. I am yet to see one of these in matches tho.
@fate30712 ай бұрын
Really? I see them nearly every game in my MiG-23 and MiG-29. I see more of these than F-20's
@ale694202 ай бұрын
Wait a moment Tim! This means that in the future the Brititsh tech tree will recieve the Indian SU-30MK???
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
... yup ...
@mab21872 ай бұрын
Gaijin said in the dovbleg of the Bison that India will be in British tree. And I see nothing wrong with it.
@starliner24982 ай бұрын
@@TimsVariety Bruh moment
@adityabora91312 ай бұрын
Bruh that is so stupid, I’d be fuming if I were a Russian main.
@danielzaba99132 ай бұрын
Forget that, I want the Tejas.
@meatballwanger2 ай бұрын
This is the best thing I ever saw.
@joshuapurdy70652 ай бұрын
1:01 and they call the f-104 the “widow maker”…
@Akatsuki_7162 ай бұрын
Looking forward to hopefully hearing your thoughts about the new Brazilian AMX, its missiles seem pretty mean.
@Warrior_AP2 ай бұрын
Su30mki in uk tree next patch?👀
@rajkamalpresentations85432 ай бұрын
Britan got indian Mig so logically Japan should get thailand's JAS39 .
@swguren2 ай бұрын
It’s very likely they will, since Japan has F-5E FCU.
@Hyper_19892 ай бұрын
I really like this plane, hope to get it when it goes on sale at Christmas. Also wish they add the russian version of this upgrade to the soviet tree.
@csii64782 ай бұрын
Very expensive not to mention the 1.8 million to expert it
@fate30712 ай бұрын
All premiums cost higher to expert simply because the initial crew cost is locked to 10k
@csii64782 ай бұрын
@@fate3071 I know why and over time you will make the SL back it’s just a hefty amount
@Jack9312 ай бұрын
I pre-ordered this plane before even knowing everything about it... probably not a good idea but I just love Mig-21's, and the idea of this plane tempted me too much, so I put some money aside for it and pre-ordered it.
@No_Feelings2 ай бұрын
People like you are the reason premiums are so outrageously expensive. You can go get any module in DCS for less than the bison or tigershark, there's no reason anyone should be spending that kind of money for a vehicle in war thunder.
@Jack9312 ай бұрын
@@No_Feelings you do have a point, I do spend a lot of money on WT Because I have an addiction to it and I need to work on that, but to say I can go to dcs is just wrong. I like how WT plays, I like how it's not ultra realistic and how easy it is to play. I do not have the setup to properly enjoy DCS to my liking or the PC good enough for it. I play WT and pay for it because it's fun for me, I work the majority of the week so it's nice to have a vehicle I enjoy so much to come back to and play. You don't have to like me and my way of thinking which is fine, but understand I'm not doing this to suck Gaijins dick or anything, I'm doing this to enjoy the game I like playing. Hope you have a good day.
@Jack9312 ай бұрын
@@No_Feelings it seems like my other comment was deleted so I'll type it out again. I do agree with your first point, I do spend too much money on WT and should probably cut back, But saying to go and play DCS is a poor comparison. I do not have a good enough PC to play DCS or a good enough setup to enjoy DCS how I would want to, I enjoy how much of a arcady game WT is, it's easy to pick up and easy to learn and run. I bought the Bison knowing full well how expensive it is and how buying even another game would probably be a better investment, but I enjoy WT air combat, I enjoy it and have a ton of fun with it. Coming home from work I look forward to playing WT, I truly enjoy the time and money spent on it. You don't have to agree with me, but from my prospective I just spent my disposable income on something I would enjoy. I don't buy premiums because I like Gaijin or anything, I do it because I enjoy it. Infact I disagree with a lot of stuff Gaijin does, but you don't have to share my opinion or even like it, I just wanted to show you it, I got a full time job, when I get home I just want to fly my jets and shoot missiles. Have a wonderful day.
@kylebrady9692 ай бұрын
@No_Feelings for 70USD just go buy a better game, y'know? Or better yet, use it for actual important life stuff/other hobbies. That's how I see it.
@Jack9312 ай бұрын
@@kylebrady969 if this is what I want to spend my money on, would that be so bad? Like legit, if I'm enjoying myself with my Bison what's so wrong with that? Not being passive aggressive, just wondering.
@rowanyuh6326Ай бұрын
“Mom can we have mig 29?” “No we have mig-29 at home” Mig-29 at home:
@armadillo3454Ай бұрын
Legit question: Do you think the F20 should go to 11.7 from 12.0? The Bison is 11.7 while it has better air to air weapons but the F20 has better air to ground weapons.
@mab21872 ай бұрын
About the history part regarding the kill on a Pak F-16, looking at this un-bias, India claims they shot down a F16 and Pakistan claims they shot down a MiG-21, Su-30MKI, and a Jaguar. According to whatever images that are available online and I was there watching the news when it happened irl, all I saw were MiG-21 and Jaguar wreckages, the Indian Mig-21 pilot that managed to land on Pakistani soil, subsequently released back to India. On the other hand India showed just one picture of a piece of sheet metal that said AIM-120 but other then that no further evidence about a F16 shot down, no wreckage, no nothing. IDK if America actually looked into the inventory of Pak F16 which they said they would with concern that Pak wasn't allowed to use F16 for aggression. The point of it all is, both these nations can't be taken seriously cus they will stop at nothing to try and one up another. Based on the images and evidence of the fiery wreckages of jets seen, even an Indian aircraft analyst said it was a Mig-21 wreckage on live news. The pilot "Abhinandan" who was released back to India, I firmly believe that an Indian MiG-21 Bison and Jaguar were confirmed kills however, the Pak claiming an Su-30MKI was just propaganda cus I've seen no evidence of it. Same goes for the Indian claim they shot down a F-16, I'm not trying to insult fellow Indians, I just don't see any evidence of a F-16, you'd think the Indians would show more then just a piece of metal saying AIM-120, right...
@cody19642 ай бұрын
there are no sources backing up Indian's claims other than Indian sources, the US intelligence community casted doubt on the claim due to the total lack of evidence.
@csii6478Ай бұрын
I have noticed with TWS with the Bison the TWS mode sometimes can’t see targets in a head on and have to switch to TWS HDN I thought TWS is a PD mode in general
@TimsVarietyАй бұрын
It is, but individual radar sets performance can vary. In general, HDN is better than regular PD at longer ranges.
@tomatoflight2 ай бұрын
Adding more irccm missiles at 11.7 is going to cause another compression issue just like the 9.0-10.0 br bracket's all aspects. The mig-21 bison won't cause too many problems by itself, but it sets a precedent that concerns me...
@danielzaba99132 ай бұрын
Precedent? My guy there´s a ton of vehicles at that br and lower that have good missiles. Mirage 2000, Mirage F1 and F1C, F14 for aim54´s, Su 39, su 25t, su 25bm, F5EFCU, some of the chinese planes...etc. If you wanna count the mig 29 and F16´s at 12.0 then those too. You can find R73, magic 2, pl5c (not sure if it has irccm). Hell even a new premium amx has like 45g missiles, and if you wanna count the python 3´s then yeah, even though the irccm is trash on them, and it´s not that good on the R73 either. Like, a magic 2 or an aim9m is way better for irccm.
@manisingh98832 ай бұрын
Take my Ruppes
@janusz41562 ай бұрын
70 years of MiG-21 "Fishbed" in 2026.
@Jack-zw5qn2 ай бұрын
YOU CAN USE THE GROUND RADAR TO FIRE RADAR MISSILES AT TANKS!
@darykeng2 ай бұрын
Imagine ground player's shock after being killed by R-27
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
Not exactly - it will let you fire, but they don't track. Waiting to see if there are any bug fixes around it.
@Jack-zw5qn2 ай бұрын
@@TimsVarietyawww, that’s why I couldn’t recreate it. The very first one i fired at the test drive SPAA was like a meter short, all my others weren’t even close and I thought it was just me
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
@@Jack-zw5qn If you aim your plane, you can get them in the general direction like an unguided rocket, but thats about all for right now.
@Jack-zw5qn2 ай бұрын
@@TimsVarietythere is an issue report, i do think it’s far more likely gaijin will monkeys paw it like they normally do and prohibit firing them with GTM lock rather than actually make them track
@cody19642 ай бұрын
the f16 kill is far from 'confirmed' last time i checked
@raiyan33482 ай бұрын
Wasn't it confirmed that no f-16s were lost during the entire operation, only confirmed shoot down was an indian mig-21 by a pakistani f-16 and an indian mi-8 due to friendly fire.
@sooryan_10182 ай бұрын
Yes
@SpitsAreTheBest_Mk.IX_612 ай бұрын
Yeah there were no photos of the wreckage
@Whispering_Lotus_108Ай бұрын
I have the IAF released radar data, and the f16 wreckage sight was sealed for a week and more, and there is an US official present in Pakistan to cover up the wreckage evidence. Their primary objective is to cover up the incidents like these. When India destroyed American tanks supplied to Pakistan in previous battles, the US requested India not to show those captured tanks as it will decrease the sales of American weapons.
@raiyan3348Ай бұрын
@@Whispering_Lotus_108 source? : Trust me bro xD
@Dylan-ji1xx2 ай бұрын
I'm utterly batshit insane, so I love taking MiG-21's and dogfighting F-16's and because the Mig 21 is the king of the 1 Circle I win fairly often. this is going to be fun for a few days when players aren't used to a MiG-21 having god weapons
@voyager22892 ай бұрын
India cooked with this one. Cool machine.
@haymids2 ай бұрын
Hey Tim, im totally getting this to finish grinding UK, thanls for the grand review Although, every time you mention speed, I kinda stress over how its only in Km/h, and not in MPH or (since im quote on quote and insane aviator in War Thunder) Kn. Mabe for the next editions, could you probably do all 3 just to make your reviews understandable? Cheers!
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
The "quick and good enough" conversion is to divide in half, and add 10% of the original. 1000kmh becomes about 600mph (in reality its like, 620 or something, but "close enough") The overwhelming majority of the playerbase uses metric in-game, so thats what I've defaulted to.
@danielzaba99132 ай бұрын
No offense to this person, but maybe just like look it up on Google.
@gansior47442 ай бұрын
Still waiting for Tornado to get its Ground Radar back
@pzg_kami64722 ай бұрын
Hello Tim ,Thanks a lot for aswsome videos you keep making I've got a request though. I've just started serious air battle in recent months and reaching high tier its getting frustrating due to All missiles I cannot get way with them usually in an instant ,IRCCMs are the main problem. I've seen many guides and videos in order to get better at this yet to no avail So may I ask you to make a video of your actual gameplay but maybe more focused on dogding missiles with some explaination and hints over it please? Thank you in advance
@williamkwl61532 ай бұрын
Hmm... Looks a lot better than the F20, and either this or the F4J for Britain... I suppose should worth it once it gets a discount
@user-if4zv5nj5m2 ай бұрын
That's a flying example of how good the fox1 matchmaking could've been if gaijin haven't kept the r27er meta and haven't nerfed its carriers' FMs th the ground
@PaiSAMSEN2 ай бұрын
Putting Indian jet in British tree seem like a jab at colonial past, which I'm not sure how to feel about it. Regardless, being a MiG-21 that can't be put in the same line up as most MiG-21 already suck enough.
@sailorssilence19832 ай бұрын
What about South Africa being in the British tree, lmao? The British stuffed Boers in concentration camps.
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
@@sailorssilence1983 Yeah, the snail seems determined to ignore local sentiment towards British colonialism ... :-\
@PaiSAMSEN2 ай бұрын
@@sailorssilence1983 I completely forgot about those. This gotta be intentional at this point...
@sailorssilence19832 ай бұрын
@@PaiSAMSEN I doubt its intentional. No reason to give these countries their own techtrees at the moment tbh. Maybe a commonwealth tech tree? idk
@MrEsphoenix2 ай бұрын
More likely, it's a convenience to fill out gaps due to a historic link, Plus they’re one of the biggest contributors to the commonwealth. In all honesty, they should just change it to the commonwealth tree and embrace it properly.
@Jeremy.Klakson2 ай бұрын
Rare footage of UK not suffering
@yamatokurusaki57902 ай бұрын
youtube do be bully it only allows 360p
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
You're too fast! lol, it takes a few to "process" 🙂
@yamatokurusaki57902 ай бұрын
@@TimsVariety im speed
@nitrous_god2 ай бұрын
@@TimsVarietyim sure you know but just in case: you can upload a vid as unlisted, then make it public once it processes etc. you can also use it to upload on a specific time/schedule love your vids btw! they’re very helpful!
@jovanni_orb5116Ай бұрын
Hello again
@zachthepizzaguy2 ай бұрын
I want this jet so bad
@HighClover2 ай бұрын
First lol, as someone who absolutely loves the mig 21s i had to pick this one up im loving it in sim.
@gustavofelix34332 ай бұрын
make a video talking about the problem of stock grinding by God's love !!!!
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
I have one, but its a couple of years old. Probably time for an update.
@gustavofelix34332 ай бұрын
@@TimsVariety Tim is that now the stock grind is very, very bad, the new planes are so impossible to grind, take the test, take one of the new planes and grind a modification without chaff with only 2 ircccm missiles. You can't do dogfight because you don't have a g suit, you can't reach the targets on the ground or at the bases, because there are no bombs and the dozens of fox 3 in the air stop you, you can't even reach the battle. stock grind is a horrible mechanic, you are literally punished for progressing in the game and acquiring new content from updates. I don't even want to play with new planes that I just researched. It was already a bad mechanic that had improved a little but it's still bad, now with the 13.0 planes I'm back to what it was in the past, completely unplayable
@IceSki1172 ай бұрын
In other words, the Bison really only kept the skin and skeleton of the Bis.
@No_Feelings2 ай бұрын
Hot take, premium vehicles should not get access to the newest weapons to be added to the game. This thing should not get r-77s regardless of how much someone may have overpaid for it. Realism isn't an excuse for predatory game design.
@MrEsphoenix2 ай бұрын
Meh, that boat has long sailed. If it was up to me, premiums would be locked until you reach that rank with at least one nation, with their main use to help flesh out existing lineups, but that will never happen. Since they already burned that bridge, they should just focus on balance and realism and fuck people who are jealous because other's bought something they don't have. Personal ego should never be used to dictate gameplay features. Personally, I've not played it, so can't say if adding them would be a good idea or not. They could help with balance as since the missiles would then do a lot of the work it could probably stick at a higher BR. Then again without it will likely end up at a lower BR and fill a nice gap in the tree.
@fate30712 ай бұрын
Im fine with them not adding the R-77. It gives the british lineup something between the phantom at 11.3 and the tornado at 12.7@@MrEsphoenix
@h8hornets2 ай бұрын
Damn and I thought F104s were widow makers. How tf is the Indian public ok with the crash rate?
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
I wish I knew - I've always been shocked by India's horrible experience with safety on the Mig-21, and the fact that they just kept on going with it ...
@sooryan_10182 ай бұрын
They aren't. That's why they're trying to procure more aircrafts, domestic and foreign to replace the Bisons. It'll all be retired by next year
@adityabora91312 ай бұрын
We aren’t Public Resentment towards the Continued usage of the Mig-21 goes as far back as 2006 if not earlier when a wildly popular movie titled “Rang De Basanti” hit the theatres, it referenced the incessant pilot and equipment attrition rates due to deep seated corruption and red tape bureaucracy in the government. I don’t know why we still keep using these rust buckets, I know downsizing isn’t an option when you’re locked into a cold confrontation with China but damn, at what point does maintaining these planes only for them to go on to crash and kill our trained pilots become adequate enough to warrant their retirement? Machines can be replaced experienced pilots are hard to come by.
@abhaypathak53472 ай бұрын
Last Mig 21 bison squadron already converted to Su30MKI in 2023 No. 4 squadron 'Oorials'
@cmdrTremyss2 ай бұрын
India should have got his own tech tree long before Israel did.
@OiOi-Jim2 ай бұрын
Not really, Israel is already an unpopular enough tech tree because it is pure copy and paste right up until top tier, even then it only gets the F-15 and only their tanks are indigenous. India would be the exact same story, using largely the same tanks and aircraft as Israel in-game, just without Israel’s unique modifications to them. There is already way too much copy and paste in War Thunder, adding more will just destroy any incentive to research multiple trees, which in-turn will decrease sales for Gaijin as people would want to grind less, which of course Gaijin would never allow lmao.
@cmdrTremyss2 ай бұрын
@@OiOi-Jim You have a point but generally speaking cramping foreign aircraft into an already existing tech tree (as a form of added national subtree) decreases the incentive to research more than 2 tech trees already, since you will find most top tier jets in maximum of 2 trees already.
@OiOi-Jim2 ай бұрын
@@cmdrTremyss Eh, at this point I don’t think Gaijin are looking to add another separate nation to the game, if anything they would add a separate commonwealth tech tree that would be more fleshed out, but even that is very far-fetched. They’re swaying more into just adding sub-trees for now.
@wing_sweep2 ай бұрын
@@OiOi-JimGhana tech tree confirmed
@krafti_pl18122 ай бұрын
Was kinda hoping that they would add a final MiG-21 version to the russian tree too as l'm a fan of the plane but oh well, maybe it'll happen later. Also over 400 aircraft lost to crashes? That's worse than german F-104s, damn
@abhaypathak53472 ай бұрын
Thankfully Mig21s retired in 2023
@meanman69922 ай бұрын
Should point out America never trains in or for a fair fight, we train with handicaps on purpose.
@Kaldosthesergal2 ай бұрын
Hey, do you have a guide on the mig 23 ml? I’m having trouble playing it this update.
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
I do, but its outdated (before they nerfed the flight model into the ground....)
@streetlampoil87622 ай бұрын
2:59 💀💀💀
@williamgunter42682 ай бұрын
For the algorithm!
@the_chrisgamer99342 ай бұрын
2:55 RULE BRITANNIA, THE SUN NEVER SETS ON THE BRITSH EMPIRE 😂😅
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
Until 1997
@corwintipper73172 ай бұрын
@@TimsVariety Which colony was released at that time?
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
@@corwintipper7317 Hong Kong
@corwintipper73172 ай бұрын
@@TimsVariety Thanks for editing the year.
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
@@corwintipper7317 Thats what I get for posting comments first thing in the morning ;-)
@farmcat98732 ай бұрын
Wow You were Ripping it up in these games with only 4 AAM I thought this thing was gonna have a bit of a hard time but that got a BR change from the test server didn't it?
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
I had a really good time with it.
@CallMeGooses2 ай бұрын
new indian bias is wild
@raheemal-taweel53252 ай бұрын
Would be nice if they give the R-77
@KNMRoaldAmundsenАй бұрын
Cause a mig-21 at 12.7 sounds nice? And also, a 12.7 premium is too damn high
@raheemal-taweel5325Ай бұрын
@@KNMRoaldAmundsen harries are 12.3 with 4 Aim120s 20 R77 would break the games also in game they are kinda the worst Fox 3s
@KNMRoaldAmundsenАй бұрын
@@raheemal-taweel5325 the harrier is a subsonic brick, the mig-21 is a supersonic fighter intercepter and would not be at the same br
@justfly77302 ай бұрын
Paying for a Mig21 in this br is not a good idea
@GNOLXOEKIM2 ай бұрын
Bison yummy tim
@thomasmccombie50852 ай бұрын
wow
@topaz28212 ай бұрын
Do you think the US may ever get a sub-tree considering all the countries we’ve aided?
@MrEsphoenix2 ай бұрын
Possibly, but they don't really need one, as their arms industry dwarfs everyone elses. The subtrees were added to fill out countries in areas where they were lacking.
@fate30712 ай бұрын
Gaijin recently made a statement that countries with 5 separate lines will be getting no sub tree. (US has air force, interceptor, navy, attacker, and bomber lines)
@goliath34132 ай бұрын
You forgot that it can shoot R27R at ground targets lol
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
No I didn't. That may be a bug, so I decided not to mention it. It lets you fire, but the missile doesn't actually track.
@goliath34132 ай бұрын
@@TimsVariety ig im the only person that made a report on it then. So far no responses from mods.
@JohnSmith-tg5li2 ай бұрын
Unfortunate that half the pylons are missing compatible munitions.
@orange17182 ай бұрын
yeah 70 dollars to grind the British tree seems reasonable
@puchomoreno2 ай бұрын
Less than a minute
@oscartang4587u32 ай бұрын
They should give it the R-77
@sooryan_10182 ай бұрын
They'd make it ATLEAST 12.3 Would be a slap in the nuts for all newbie premium players
@oscartang4587u32 ай бұрын
@@sooryan_1018 But it would at least double the sell. The current 11.7 BR of this MiG is already a slap in the nuts for all newbie premium players already. They still need to face the AIM-120 fighters with the BR of 12.3 and 12.7.
@KNMRoaldAmundsenАй бұрын
Would (and should) be at 12.7 in that case which is too close to top tier and a mig-21 vs a f-15c msip ii is a batshit matchup
@oscartang4587u3Ай бұрын
@@KNMRoaldAmundsen We already have Harriers with AIM-120 in 12.3. MiG-21 with R-77 can also be in 12.3. Edit: Harriers with AIM-120 now in 13.0 MiG-21 Boson now in 12.3
@KNMRoaldAmundsenАй бұрын
@@oscartang4587u3 the harrier is a subsonic brick while the mig-21 is a supersonic fighter. They are not close to comparable
@bigbernard73252 ай бұрын
Is there no audio for anyone else, or is that just me?
@donnym34152 ай бұрын
I don't have it either
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
You're too fast! KZbin isn't done "processing" it yet!
@spooderp10742 ай бұрын
i have audio, but i can only watch in 360p
@valhallasrevenge2 ай бұрын
flying this in wt most likely costs more than India payed to upgrade the plane.
@YungRolex2 ай бұрын
The mig-21 bison does not have a confirmed f-16 kill.
@miquelescribanoivars50492 ай бұрын
No R-77's 🤨
@ICECAPPEDSKY2 ай бұрын
Gotta sell that Fomo for new missiles on the tech tree jets
@KNMRoaldAmundsenАй бұрын
You want a 12.7 premium mig-21? Lmao, it would get fucked every single match
@artarezaei87202 ай бұрын
British air tree 💀☠
@hrunchtayt15872 ай бұрын
Anyone else only able to view the video in 360p?
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
You're too fast! KZbin isn't done "processing" it yet!
@hrunchtayt15872 ай бұрын
@@TimsVariety oops 😅
@victordanielalvescarvalho33532 ай бұрын
0:58 wtf, it's even worse than the 104....
@TimsVariety2 ай бұрын
Yeah .. India had REALLY bad luck with the safety record on the 21 ...
@miquelescribanoivars50492 ай бұрын
To be fair its safety figures were comparable to other 1st and 2nd gen jets in Indian service, but because its stuck around way longer it has more total accidents/fatalities.
@sa80slayer852 ай бұрын
Me being british i am happy to have india under our thumb again
@angelicafernandez9831Ай бұрын
The real shitbox of war thunder,i really want it, is like that 90s onda Civic
@durtwarrior11422 ай бұрын
There are a lot of caviat. meaning its trash.
@Micro-Lander2 ай бұрын
OFF VIDEO topic as shit but, GODDAMN the F20 not getting AIM120s is infuriating, paid 75 fuckin dollars and i dont even get a future proofed premium, PUÑETA
@MrEsphoenix2 ай бұрын
The lesson to be learned is buy products for what you see, not what you expect them to become in the future.
@Micro-Lander2 ай бұрын
Yeah i wanted it that bad but oh well @@MrEsphoenix
@KNMRoaldAmundsenАй бұрын
Why would you expect a 13.0 premium? That would be batshit crazy for them to have
@waleedbinhamid247Ай бұрын
Its the most crashed plane in the world and by the Indians 🥲