Tips For a Perfect Panel Glue Up

[@siriusmcnojoke]

Thanks for the 45-degree clamp force explanation! Seen tons of videos on this topic and nobody mentioned how far apart the clamps should be or why.

[@brucemiller1696]

It all depends on the width of the boards, that it.

[@MarkJones1751]

Thank you, perfect explanation. I am very new to working with wood and now realise I am over tightening my clamps.

[@SeaBeeDave71]

Great information. I have been tightening my clamps too tight. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!

[@fred_derf]

Keep in mind that the glue is going to be holding the wood together, not the clamps. All the clamps are there for is to hold the pieces together (without allowing them to moving around) while the glue dries.

[@jameswalsh4056]

I have been using a couple clamping cauls lately but probably wouldn't need them if I wasn't over tightening the main clamps.

[@JhunM69]

First time I came across your channel and you're good... nice detailed step by step, something like myself who is just starting woodworking as a hobby really needs.. you're a great Teacher ... thanks

[@dougzyskowski1570]

Junior M q

[@maydanlex]

Answered all my questions...including a couple I didn't think of.

[@richardanderson4916]

I'm with Junior M. Great videos!!

[@willboudreau1187]

I understand about not too much clamping pressure, still, I'm surprised you didn't use cauls to ensure the panel pieces remained coplanar?

[@chonsalinas2919]

Great video. I'm a beginning woodworker and having trouble with gluing up my cutting board projects. Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge. The rub joint really intrigued me. Definitely going going to try it. Once again thank you.

[@TeamProsperity]

Great tips, thanks

[@keithgatewood5456]

When do you recommend removing the wood from the clamps? I have found if I wait too long the glue on the underside of the boards dries to the clamps.

[@FatalizedEdit]

Just use wax paper anywhere the glue would end up falling onto.

[@EMWoodworking]

Keith Gatewood I wipe off the excess glue with a wet rag a few minutes after gluing and clamping. After about 3 hours I take the clamps off.

[@BronkBuilt]

Good information. Thanks for sharing!

[@tfriedmann5908]

Really appreciated this tutorial. A question about glue cleanup. If you remove it at the semi-gel state, do you need to use an additional cleaning methods? I’ve had some staining projects that had some glue residue. How do I avoid this most effectively?

[@ecaff9515]

Excellent video and great process. Thanks for sharing.

[@searchmanager9372]

What is the best glue for exterior and on cedar. Wooduck box that I do not have wide enough boards

[@Wwgoa]

Great question! I have submitted your question to George and our experts. Please watch this space for their reply. It typically takes 1-2 business days. Thanks!

[@Wwgoa]

If you are asking what glue to use to edge glue cedar boards for birdhouse construction, I would recommend Titebond 3. It has plenty of bond strength and is water proof. Best of luck, Paul

[@searchmanager9372]

Thank you

[@Igorfun]

Good info, thanks

[@timsawyer7443]

Question -- I saw another KZbin woodworker (very respected) who talked about biscuits. He, too, stated that they really didn't add to the strength of the joint, and echoed that the glue would be stronger than the surrounding wood. However, he also said (if I understood him correctly) that biscuits (or dowels, etc.) might be helpful to keep the pieces aligned if it's a long build, like the 8' (plus breadboards) table that I'll be building soon. I'm using 2x10s and 2x12s, so they'll be thick and quite long. Do you suggest the use of biscuits or dowels or the like? Thanks for any and all suggestions and insights for this rookie woodworker!

[@Wwgoa]

Hi Tim. If the planks are long, then biscuits are a good alignment aid. I don't necessarily suggest using them in this situation, but i wouldn't discourage it either. What I would suggest doing is gluing up in phases so that you are only gluing one joint at a time. That will let you focus all of your attention on a single joint rather than feeling rushed and gluing up multiples in a single stage. But there's no penalty for adding biscuits to this equation as well if it increases your confidence. Thanks Paul-Woodworkers Guild of America

[@timsawyer7443]

@@Wwgoa Thanks -- I appreciate your professional insights, and your taking the time to respond!

[@honeste6652]

I'm working on my first major woodworking project, right now. I'm building a 6'x32" table top. I've already spent what I plan to on this project, but only have two 36" long clamps and six 4" clamps. I can't secure the middle after gluing and intend on using pocket screws along with the glue. Is not having a middle clamp a bad thing?

[@Wwgoa]

Hello. It would be best to buy or borrow more clamps. For this glue up, depending on the width of your planks, I’d probably use about 6 clamps that would span the full width of the top. You’ll regret it for years if you can see gaps or glue lines. Thanks.

[@gavjav1]

How would you recommend gluing the boards on top of each other to make big timber for turning or making a post

[@Wwgoa]

Hello Gavin, I would run all of the boards through a planer to prepare your glue surface. Then glue and clamp. Use a lot of clamps along the length of boards to be glued up in a lamination to ensure a good bond. Hope this helps, Paul WoodWorkers Guild of America Video Membership

[@gavjav1]

Thanks for your reply, much appreciated. The problem we’ve been having, after leaving the boards to set in the clamps overnight, then planning and dressing them to size on the jointer/thicknesser the next day is the boards seem to have a little gap on the glue lines where they haven’t bonded but I’m guessing where not using enough clamps and I’ve noticed there not spreading the glue when gluing up which I think is essential.

[@jimsutton4850]

if after gluing the table top there is 1/32 inch gap twelve inches long on the table top. would you re-rip and re-glue or do you have another suggestions?

[@Wwgoa]

Hello Jim, It depends on your tolerance for how this looks visually. You could attempt to disguise it with some glue and sanding dust but it would be hard to hide it completely. If a perfect looking seem is important I would re-rip it, re-joint and glue it. Hope this helps! Paul WoodWorkers Guild of America Video Membership

[@dougprentice1363]

What kind of paper is that. And where do you get it?

[@Wwgoa]

Hello Doug, t's called Rosin paper: amzn.to/2u6haSE. It's great stuff. It's pretty thick so it offers decent protection, and it's durable so I re-use it 2-3 times before tossing it. Hope this helps, Paul WoodWorkers Guild of America Video Membership

[@dougprentice1363]

WoodWorkers Guild Of America thank you.

[@essopdmoosa2001]

great advice,as always.keep it coming.:-)

[@friedmule5403]

I hope that you please want to answer my question:-) If you just glue the board as you find pretty, what then about grain direction?

[@henniedevos4600]

Fried Mupppp

[@michaell7877]

Question: What about clamp clean up? Why not use something that will keep the glue of the bar of the clamps?

[@Wwgoa]

Hi Michael. I generally just scrape the glue off afterward, but sure, you can put something over the clamps to keep the glue off if you want. Paul-Woodworkers Guild of America

[@markmann6796]

I didn’t hear you comment on an approximate time frame involved in drying. Please advise.

[@Wwgoa]

Hello Mark, PVA glue is generally ready to remove from clamps after an hour or two. For a complicated glue-up or one with a lot of glue surface area, it's a good idea to let it set up overnight before removing. Hope this help, Paul WoodWorkers Guild of America Video Membership

[@kzawmintunsanshay6995]

I want to join work.

[@hilals9090]

What about the time

[@abdesa2008]

Good

[@MorrMedia1]

How do you prevent glue from contacting the metal bar of the clamp?

[@daveklein2826]

put a piece of wax paper between th clamp and the wood

[@Aaron84danielle]

Where did you get your clamps? What brand are they?

[@Wwgoa]

Tracy, those are an older model Bessey parallel bar clamp. Those were great, but the newer ones are even better with an improved locking mechanism and better handle grips: amzn.to/2x5fzhA

[@dedkotm6208]

Why video kvality only 480 dpi? In 2017 ?

[@xl000]

because they are woodworkers.. They really don't know anything about computers, codec and stuffs.

[@doomfortin]

if the board is not even can I pass it thru the electric planer?

[@andrewgarratt5191]

....someone told me a long time ago that the glues strength came from compression..Ie :tighter the clamps,stronger the joint. Is this to say they are wrong?! 😂 I almost feel silly here looking at the cheater bar next to my clamps I’ve most of my life tried to just stop short of crushing the wood 😳 Not to mention extra money spent on clamps that can withstand the force.

[@Wwgoa]

Hello Andrew, Yes, someone told you wrong. :) In fact, too much clamp pressure can potentially weaken the joint by squeezing out too much glue. Hope this helps, Paul WoodWorkers Guild of America Video Membership

[@andrewgarratt5191]

WoodWorkers Guild Of America God dang it !! 😡 thank you so much ...I feel so silly... I’ve always laughed at those “pistol gripped” clamps ...thought of the people that used them as half hearted.... DANG !! 😂 well thanks again... All these years !?!? Better late than never I suppose.

[@SuckMySmile]

One of my old teachers taught me tighter=better too. This is great to know. I made a top for a wine cabinet out of mahogany and it ended up bowed after the panel glue up. I’m guessing that was because my clamps were too tight?

[@xl000]

aren't you supposed to alternate the ring orientation to prevent cuping ? otherwise you'll end with a large half pipe if you put all the panels in the same orientation. But on average, if you do it randomly, it should be ok I guess

[@Wwgoa]

Hello, This is a longstanding debate among woodworkers, and I'll give you my opinion. As long as your lumber is dry and stable you really don't need to worry about alternating the rings. I generally optimize for appearance rather than ring orientation. If the wood isn't fully dry and stable then you should stop your project and allow the wood to achieve equilibrium before proceeding rather than trying average out the problem by alternating rings. A wavy top might put a bit less stress on the table's structure but it will still look terrible. Thanks, Paul WoodWorkers Guild of America Video Membership

[@fred_derf]

+xl, Wood warps when it's moisture content changes so if your wood is properly cured its moisture content won't be changing and it's not going to warp (more than it is already). That said, if you're making a table top for a picnic table or some other project that will be exposed to varying air conditions then I'd worry about grain orientation.

[@dt9913]

@@fred_derf Absolutely correct! It's a fact not a debate...

[@rosschristopherross]

All good information but he never touched on jointing the edges for gluing. Jointing is essential for a good seamless fit between the boards.

[@andypitz1]

Christopher Ross he does, starting at about 5:55

[@1rudymartin]

you are very informative, but every time I see you I laugh you look just like and talk like Groucho Marks. I think he's great to.