Tisas 1911 Carry DS The Good and Bad

Tisas 1911 Carry DS The Good and Bad - Watch Before You Buy!

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@fred.larson2720q 2 ай бұрын

I just bought a Duty model. My Holosun EPS was a perfect fit with no modifications. My barrel bushing is fairly loose but nothing like yours. I gave the gun to a friend who is a Bob Marvel trained 2011 smith and with 3 hours of work he cleaned it up and gave it a fantastic 3 lb. trigger. The only Tisas part he did not keep was the hammer spring. He did have to clean the Cerakote off of the internal parts. The slight bump I felt on the slide as it passed over the disconnector is gone. I bought mine when Palmetto dropped their price to $650. For that price, and a very modest bill at my smith, I am very happy with this gun.

@EngineersArmory 2 ай бұрын

Hell yeah! thats the way to do it.

@jericosha2842 3 ай бұрын

I'm so glad you made this video. I was thinking about ordering one, but I just want to order it and love it right away.

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! In your case it may be worth it to save your money for a more expensive "budget" double stack 1911.

@FunWithGuns Ай бұрын

Thank you for the well put together wealth of knowledge.

@lenholt7419 6 күн бұрын

I purchased an Aviator and still considering the DS Duty. Tisas does have a lot of room to improve. SDS has a daunting task in their business model. You have skills that many do not. I found when interacting with CS to be concise, effective, clear communications, and going beyond the sale. They do exactly what they say they will do. I question how long they can keep this model of operation up. This compares to several Custom/SemiCustom manufacturers. A+ in my book. The obvious thing on these pistols they are FACTRY made....slapped together. You want great fit and cheap? "It fits and functions" not refined. Agree this is the True Value in these pistols. I had several problems on the Aviator. The Kryptonite issue across their line is the extractor. It needs attention nearly day one. I'll inspect the Barrel Bushings closer now. Not all Gun Smiths will work on these due to the varied tolerances. With All the issues I had resolved, the Aviator has earned its way into carry rotation.

@aswin2352 3 ай бұрын

As usual.....great job! Your videos are definitely on the must watch list.

@DesertTactical 2 ай бұрын

Superb info. You gave me more to think about since I have been considering picking this one up. Subbed.

@EngineersArmory 2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing! In a couple weeks I'll have some videos up on the MAC9 DS I just purchased and a detailed comparison to this.

@DesertTactical 2 ай бұрын

@@EngineersArmory Oh cool! Def want to watch that! Glad I found your channel and subbed!

@ashittycheme 3 ай бұрын

My xp has been the same. I have an early model B45R that, out of the box was perfect so I purchased the DS 9 Carry and Duty model. Both have terrible barrel bushing fitment and needed serious leaf spring work. My duty model trigger fitment is a joke. EPS arrives next week so we'll see how it goes but not to confident in my purchase.

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

Sear spring on this one took a ton of fiddling too. Had some memory too it and my trigger weight kept creeping back up. Bummer you have had the same issue. I hope you dont have the optic cut issue!

@mafira1987 2 ай бұрын

Great informative video 🙏🏾

@juliosoto8576 3 ай бұрын

Great video. Great update. I was really looking forward to your final thoughts and input on all the upgrades you did to this firearm. I also watched the other videos on it as well, and gonna take a couple of your ideas and put them on my Tisas. Thanks again.

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

Final video where I show all the work i did to it is coming. Still tinkering away haha. Waiting for a new mainspring housing to see if I can get this new grip safety to fit. I also fit a new barrel bushing (a second one) so i will give an update on accuracy. im going on vacation so the last video probably wont be for a month or more.

@juliosoto8576 3 ай бұрын

@dltz sounds good. Enjoy the vacation, brother

@Thomas-vt7cz 3 ай бұрын

Great informative video bruh... 😎

@fattigla 3 ай бұрын

Great objective video!

@montevallomustang 2 ай бұрын

I had to run check my barrel bushing 😂 I think the ds carry is an excellent pistol for anyone planning to do upgrades (which im sure is everyone watching this video)

@EngineersArmory 2 ай бұрын

Well is the bushing loose in the slide?? Haha yeah this gun is pretty awesome if you want to tinker on it and modify it.

@ThomasSimmons-j9l Ай бұрын

I just got one. It's throwing brass in my face and it was double feeding . Send it into the factory and they polished the ramp and tightened the extractor. Got it back still throwing brass to 6 o'clock

@EngineersArmory Ай бұрын

Sounds like they didnt properly tune the extractor. Check out this video. It helped me. Don't know if you're comfortable trying something like this yourself. May be time to take it to a gunsmith who is familiar with 1911s. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp6WpKZpjbKErq8

@ThomasSimmons-j9l Ай бұрын

@@EngineersArmory id like to go with a Wilson ejector. The shape of it would deflect differently

@EngineersArmory Ай бұрын

@@ThomasSimmons-j9l make sure your extractor is properly tuned before that. Also replacing an ejector can be a pain. It's easier to file the front of your existing ejector to get it to contact the brass in the correct spot to throw it where you want. That's just what I've found.

@EngineersArmory Ай бұрын

@@ThomasSimmons-j9l recoil spring weight will affect ejection distance and direction too. This gun is over sprung from the factory.

@ThomasSimmons-j9l Ай бұрын

@@EngineersArmory 👍 thanks what weight spring do you suggest Sir.

@BYoun69 28 күн бұрын

After watching this video I have ordered a WC bushing and springs for the one I ordered. The parts and gun should be here about the same time.

@DesertTactical 13 күн бұрын

I was gonna do the same. To my surprise, the bushing on mine is properly fitted to the barrel. No wiggle at all.

@scottdavis681 2 ай бұрын

Great video. I'll be spending the extra $$ for a different 2011. I heard bad things about the Prodigy. I would like the Platypus but in all reality my budget is where the Tisas is unfortunately. Do you own a good 2011 under $2k?

@EngineersArmory 2 ай бұрын

This is the only one i own currently. I will likely buy the Mac9 DS and and LFA Apollo 11 eventually. The Prodigy is a really decent gun. The early production ones were rough but they have their manufacturing dialed in now. I think they are about a $1000 gun for $1200 or $1300, but you're paying extra for the American manufacturing. I would still recommend them. This Tisas is good value if you can find it for $700 or less. Keep an eye on Battlehawk Armory for sales. If you get one and the optic cut is tight or the barrel bushing is loose, those are not super expensive fixes by a competent gunsmith. Without having a Mac9DS in my hands i would say its probably better value. I have seen them for as low as $830. They are essentially this gun with a bull barrel. The slide, frame, barrel, and internals will all be good quality like they are on this gun. Hope this helps and I will post more videos on the Mac9DS or Apollo11 if i buy them. Thanks for watching.

@davecasson5040 Ай бұрын

What grip module did you go with?

@EngineersArmory Ай бұрын

factory grip module. I just stippled it. I recently got a MAC9DS which pretty much has the same grip module as this. I replaced it with a prodigy grip module and I think thats the way to go.

@djgsc9870 2 ай бұрын

Can u tell me when u filed the optic cut did u do both front and back or just the back of the cut?

@EngineersArmory 2 ай бұрын

Check out my "optics cut fail" video on this pistol. It's pretty recent. I go into detail and show exactly where I needed to remove material.

@aperturelabs8552 3 ай бұрын

I really curious about your take on glock. Is glock's slide finish difficult to drill holes into?

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

Havent cut into a glock slide yet. I'm sure I will at some point. In general, with every pistol i have ported, the nitride finish on a slide and barrel is very hard. I bust thru the nitride with a carbide endmill. Then usually just bore any holes or rip any slots in the slide/barrel I need from there. A nice, sharp, 4 flute carbide endmill (coated or not), makes quick work of the nitride finish. I dont even bother with center drilling or drill bits anymore because it just roaches them immediately. I have noticed variation in nitride thickness in the slides and barrels I have machined, the hardness all seems comparable. Once I break thru that, the stainless steel or CMV alloy steel is easy to machine. There are many different nitrocarburization processes, but they all produce similar finish, corrosion resistance, and surface hardness, the main difference is how long they let it sit in the molten salts to make a thinner or thicker layer. In regards to Glock in general, they are reliable. But nothing about their performance, features, ergonomics, or price has impressed me. I personally will not support a company that has refused to innovate for 30 years and just rides on their laurels. I have heavily modified gen 3 and 4 glock clones and even at their best I feel they are just "meh" compared to upgraded hammer fired pistols (DA/SA or SAO). In comparison to other striker fired pistols, there are a lot on the market that are just as reliable, but perform better and feel better in my hands while also being cheaper. And once upgraded the other perform as good or better than the Glocks.

@aperturelabs8552 3 ай бұрын

@@EngineersArmory You are absolutely right about Glock's lack of innovation and "meh" feel, even after heavy mod (which I did too)... It's shameful. I have tried CZ (P10 F) and Springfield (Prodigy)... Shit, I even Tried Taurus PT92 and G2c(I am brazilian)... But the gun that fits my hands the best is Glock. I wish we could have more access to guns in Brazil, but they are expensive as hell down here... I bought my G34 in 2020 for the equivalent of 3000 dollars!

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

@@aperturelabs8552 Oh shit dude thats wild! out of curiosity what would those other guns cost in Brazil in comparison to the Glock 34?

@aperturelabs8552 3 ай бұрын

@@EngineersArmory When I bought them... First to last: Taurus PT92 $1000 Taurus G2c $700 CZP10F $2500 Glock G34 $3000 (Glock is considered "premium" here). Glock G17 $3000 Glock G19 $3000 Prodigy $4000 Please notice that from the first to last.. dollar price skyrocketed here... And I round the numbers... My Prodigy was actually about $4250. 1 dollar today is worth R$ 5.6 ("reais", which is brazilian currency). And if you think this is expensive... You should see the cars price here... It's outrageous. Just an example: 2024 Honda Civic ("luxury car" down here): $50.000... yes.

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

@@aperturelabs8552 Thats crazy! Thanks for sharing. its always so interesting to hear other peoples experience living in different countries.

@ritchieperez5838 3 ай бұрын

would you choose this instead of the night stalker?

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

Yes. I would buy this. With the nightstalker you're paying for decorative slide milling, a different color of cerakote, a magwell, and a threaded barrel. I don't care about any of those features (with the exception of the magwell - I got one that I think looks cooler for $60). If those features were important to you then the nightstalker is probably a good option becuase it is only like $150 more. In terms of the issues I found with this gun, those are general tolerancing and manufacturing issues that I would also expect to find on the nightstalker. I wouldn't expect the extra money for the nightstalker to net me anything in terms of better fit or tolerances. The real question is this pistol or the Mac9 DS. I wouldn't be able to answer that question unless I got a Mac9 DS and really dug into it like i did with this pistol. However either I, or one of my friends will probably buy the Mac9ds at some point so I'll probably be able to answer that question down the road.

@ritchieperez5838 3 ай бұрын

@@EngineersArmory Thank you so much for a indepth reply appreciate you and more power to the channel!!💪💪💪

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

@@ritchieperez5838 no problem man! Thanks for watching and commenting!

@killmongers550 3 ай бұрын

For your Magwell did you have to drill through the frame to get the pin to hold the Magwell and also what is the Magwell if you don’t mind me asking ?

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

No drilling required. The magwell comes with a longer mainspring housing pin that replaces the factory one and retains the magwell. This is a Dawson precision gen 1 Staccato magwell. Fits like a glove. dawsonprecision.com/magwell-for-sti-staccato-2011-gen-1-grips-tactical-advantage-by-dawson-precision/

@killmongers550 3 ай бұрын

@@EngineersArmory awesome thank you for the link and did you change the beaver tail to the Wilson combat concealed tail I was looking into changing mine and was wondering about fitment ?

@EngineersArmory 3 ай бұрын

@@killmongers550 I got the Ed Brown concealed carry grip safety. With the grip module/frame issue I wasn't able to install it. It would just flop out the back becuase the mainspring housing was too low. I did order a new mainspring housing but I don't know if that will even allow me to run it with how big the gap is. Other than that the grip safety fit fine, the tang needed filed down to adjust the release point but thats expected with any new grip safety.

@killmongers550 3 ай бұрын

@@EngineersArmory awesome bro thank you for all the knowledge

@pissywilly 2 ай бұрын

@dltz do the tisas mags need new baseplates to properly seat??

@mmike40451 2 ай бұрын

Why would you run a full size light on a short barrel?

@EngineersArmory 2 ай бұрын

Most "duty" style lights are full size. Ones that will handle serious abuse. I have seen lots of streamlight TLR-1 and Surefire X300 on glock 19s and other 4" barrel service pistols. I think its pretty common. I wanted to run either a Streamlight TLR-1 or the X300A becuase I use blackhawk omnivore holsters that index off those lights. They are the OWB retention holster I run at the range for practice. Another reason may be that the TLR-1 and X300 lights are so common that there are many more holster options from major holster manufacterers for popular pistols with those lights.