Titans are actually becoming tanks with these buffs.

[@riskrunner4532]

There's no way that they listened. There has to be a catch somewhere, theres no way they'll let Titans be the tank class instead of just the ungo bungo punch class.

[@Echo-tl7wh]

riskrunner is the "nothing ever happens" chudjak

[@riskrunner4532]

​@@Echo-tl7whI have no idea what any of those words means, but that sounds funny.

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

Ergo Sum with arc conductor is better at being you than you.

[@ARavingLobster]

The monkey's paw not curling for once, colour me skeptical. It's really telling of Bungie that we always expect it to.

[@riskrunner4532]

​@@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX oh really? Haven't noticed it over all this me being a primary and having way better range and arc resist.

[@Rahapallo]

Titan barricade: "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smells of elderberries!"

[@Dudefighter]

Took 10 years to give the tank class a taunt button lol

[@PlusOne2Crit]

They've never been a tank class tbf. Over the years they've been the fastest, and highest dps, class in the game. Locks have been tankier as the caster class.

[@jacobbruce1005]

And it doesn’t even taunt bosses lol

[@papertowels9162]

Hunters got a taunt before Titans. No lie when they revealed Threaded Spectre I was like "Isn't that a Titan thing?"

[@mackncheese1683]

@@jacobbruce1005 That woule be dumb, yes.

[@RazgrizFllaga]

@@PlusOne2Crit says who? back during d1 my titan bubble protects the whole raid team and as a titan i dictate where we do dps to atheon due to my bubble. Titan has always been a tank. Ask Atheon. warlocks and hunters has always been the dps role.

[@Cross31415]

One way I thought it could be interesting to buff void overshields, would be to give it a shield gate, so whatever attack breaks the overshield cannot hit your main health bar. That would let overshield serve as one-shot insurance and give it value in higher difficulty stuff without raising its HP to ridiculous levels.

[@davidavina3941]

I also think that could apply to offensive bul so that the grenade regean still functions for a second or two after loosing the overshield

[@BasedButcher]

Kinda like borderlands heathgating? Sounds pretty good tbh

[@reallyminty8386]

second this!!!

[@kilojuliet4]

As somebody who has picked up Warframe and learned about their health gating mechanics, yeah I agree. I think destiny's need to be a bit stricter than theirs, but it adds a fascinating new dimension to the gameplay. It's not "oh, my extra health is gone," it's "oh, I have 3 seconds of godhood before I die to a stiff breeze, better make the most of it."

[@axelkusanagi4139]

I just hope they make the Icefall Mantle work with frost armor

[@elaron2537]

12:05 Consecration and Diamond Lance being able to break Stasis Crystals was an announced change for TFS, but it was either bugged or just unimplemented, and other than a Player Support note they didn't say anything about it until a few weeks ago when the D2 Team twitter finally revealed that it's coming with Revenant. I'm looking forward to these Titan changes. I still think that they should look at decoupling some of the Sentinel subclass elements from only being active with a Void Overshield, but at least those buffs might stay active for something closer to the timer now, but this is a good first step. I'm looking forward to seeing the Exotic Armour tuning information whenever they choose to release that.

[@beaugalaz963]

Titan: Deploys Barricade All minor Enemies: I’m offended! 😅

[@sQueezedhe]

@@beaugalaz963 Just like trials then.

[@maiqtheliar9432]

"And I took that personally"

[@SmolShippie]

AHHAAHAHAH XD

[@GeremyG]

So they gave Titan walls the strand clone effect. Nice.

[@maxmusterman3371]

Hope it doesnt do the pvp aim assist bs

[@seb5542]

Unless you behave like enemy combatant AI in PvP it won't. ​@@maxmusterman3371

[@gen8901]

@@maxmusterman3371Hope it does, I need an excuse to avoid playing PvP.

[@parkereatsplants]

@@gen8901 You need an excuse?

[@n0thingbutstatic]

Rightfully so.

[@LordxDC]

These buffs honestly sound so nice. I feel like with prismatic hunters and warlocks really got to staple themselves as the dps and support/healer class respectively while us titans just sat over here like “I guess I’ll keep punching stuff” but if the buffs are as nice as they sound I can see the tank roll finally fitting with the titans.

[@davidbowerman3089]

What?? Hunter are lowest super dps..

[@LordxDC]

@@davidbowerman3089 if you think the dps of the super is what defines how much dps a class can actually put out at a boss encounter for the most part you're wrong. Hunters supers are not what defines them as the dps class its the ability to utilize their buffs, supers, abilities, and exotics to have better dps rotations than most of the builds in the game. If you need examples take a look at the celestial night hawk, still hunt goldy rotation and the combination blow 1-2 punch grapple melee combos for bosses that can be hit by it. Do things like song of flame and Glacial Lance do more damage, sure but you can't ignore the fact that you'll spend a good chunk if not all of certain damage phases in that super

[@pathapollo_9488]

@@davidbowerman3089 Celestial golden gun has literally been the highest DPS super in the game since it’s inception.

[@davidbowerman3089]

@LordxDC after these nerf go live that won't even happen! I don't mind playing as a support role but I'm near enough forced into that role by using deadfall.. giving us a golden gun buff and spectral will not move about 60% of hunters into that Maybe you should look into the dps super charts and see for yourself.. hunter have only 1 highly consistent dps super in strand other than that the other 19 are held by titans and warlocks.. FACT

[@davidbowerman3089]

@pathapollo_9488 wrong.. azcetross has damage tested alot of the supers go watch it

[@joeliolioli4156]

If they’re gonna continue to raise the power cap, they need to make upgrade modules significantly cheaper and raise the cap of how many you can hold. With how many different builds the active players who are hitting cap use, its insane that they are still so expensive.

[@azuliusgaming6760]

My brother in the light they are one core

[@joekane7651]

Run any campaign mission

[@CGR1410]

Ever since they removed legendary shards I rlly wanted them to make enhancement cores way more accessible. They’ve made steps but I think they can do more.

[@kh.754]

If they're playing that often the price of one is literally nothing lol

[@adoboflakes8473]

9:05 I don't know why but I have always defaulted to the idea of "Oh big enemy projectile, I'll put up a barricade so it protects me from that damage" and then just nope. It's the biggest gripe I have with Titan, ever. I can't recall how many times I've put up a barricade expecting it to protect me from a ranged attack and just end up dead and disappointed. I even KNOW it's not going to work but it just makes so much sense that my brain defaults to "this'll work" and do it anyway. It's so disappointing. I'm glad they buffed that resistance. I just hope it's buffed enough so that it actually works this time.

[@bobalopadus8901]

"We're bringing back power increases because of how good our changes to minimise the impact of power increases were" Good one

[@FrostReach66]

Exactly😭 like there’s genuinely just no point in doing this

[@Bugattiboy912]

Yeah. They should be removing power level entirely, not leaning back into it.

[@Gildedbolt]

I mean does it matter if we're being honest?

[@FrostReach66]

@@Gildedbolt that’s kind of the point. It doesn’t matter, so why exactly are they even doing it in the first place?

[@mystletainnx]

@@FrostReach66 while I personally haven't cared about light level for over a year, I believe the point is so that the people who do care have something to do. Like the example Datto gave, it's an excuse to raid with your friends again.

[@I2dios8]

Damn. Finally, after a decade and the end of the main Destiny saga, they actually let Titans be real tanks. What a kick in the nuts that is.

[@WHlSKYtx]

Gets cool stuff. Cries about it

[@I2dios8]

@@WHlSKYtx more like gets the stuff we should've had at the start ten years late.

[@webuiltthissmitty]

@@WHlSKYtx its a fair criticism imo. People thought the classes would be unique in more ways than just their jump style, then Bungie spent 10 years making them agnostic and watering them down.

[@jebalitabb8228]

@@WHlSKYtxwhen you get dropped on your head as a kid:

[@atsukana1704]

@@webuiltthissmittyI feel for them though. The real issue that they ran into I bet is they couldn’t think of a role for the hunter to play that wasn’t damage and so instead they decided to homogenize things more to blur the lines instead of fixing the problem another way.

[@azure98]

The Consecration and Diamond Lance "Changes" for shattering crystals are things they told us would be in Final Shape's launch when they talked about the different thing you could do with Prismatic, its been bugged/unimplemented since the launch of Final Shape. Howl of the Storm was bugged since the release of Final Shape with no acknowledgement of any of this from Bungie on known issues despite all the reports only to push it to us as a change? When its something you could do since it was implemented before Final Shape?

[@paletuna2703]

As someone who frequently takes an ursa build into gms to help blueberries, I'm very happy that I can make even more orbs for them to not use super (and like protect them too ig)

[@grouthorax3963]

I remember that one or two months were Ursa Titans were mandatory for GM's. Such a memorable experience

[@tenderquirkydragon8643]

All 2 Spectral Blades mains are absolutely cooking today

[@sQueezedhe]

I just want so many of the original nerfs reverted. Sunspots, knockout, frontal assault, inertia override, mortar blast.. Thundercrash damage radius, trample.. Suncharge..

[@reallyminty8386]

same

[@thealldayspecial]

Lol get outta here Arc Week 2019 Titan buffs for Bottom Striker pretty much ruined crucible and was one of the most broken things put into the game even before thinking of exotics. Knockout Aspect is the compromise and fair form. People think Prismatic Hunter was bad, try how Bottom Striker didn't totally get reeled in until late 2021 with the 30th Anniversary changes, it basically had no downsides. That being said Mortar Blast was criminally over looked because you could basically do an ignite effect and score a chain if you punched targets with low health and get the sunspot going after one target down.

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

See, now this is a man that gets the problem. Titans were always strong, but we were NERFED over the coarse of the last 3 years, to a crazy degree

[@gyrozeppeli8303]

​@@thealldayspecial it's going in one ear and coming out the other

[@sven2win498]

Honestly still don't think that is nearly enough for Thundercrash, when Twilight Arsenal is already so good without an exotic. But i'm also not out here doing the math on the dmg increase or anything, just straight vibing things.

[@adummy9664]

I look at is as Curiass Thundercrash was already considered worthwhile pre-Final Shape when it could be used for the immediate burst damage, and now it's going to be 30% better than that which makes it worth considering over Twilight in close range scenarios. (Especially since Twilight has like a 4 second cast animation sort of like Chaos Reach.)

[@Ellyark]

@@adummy9664 not really

[@P1EMASTER]

Just went back and looked at my own testing, Thundercrash on prismatic with stareaters was hitting around ~560k while Twilight was hitting around ~760k. I cannot remember how curiass compares to stareaters nor can i remember if stareaters got nerfed since i did that testing but yeah its a pretty non consequential buff unless twilight gets nerfed or you wanna run arc for some reason.

[@postmental_thoughts]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@adummy9664thundercrash was only considered somewhat worthwhile because the only other option was pyrogales, which did noticeably more damage but doesnt consistently hit a lot of bosses that are in the game. twilight arsenal also has a pretty short animation time considering it debuffs and does loads of damage.

[@Kell_Craask]

​@adummy9664 If you disregard how Twilight Arsenal hits harder and how it's strategically better to damage at range than point blank - Thundercrash is still worse when you remember that it has a significantly longer cooldown from when Bungie nerfed it last year.

[@herb96g]

Power grind is the least fun thing to do. If they go through with this, I bet the analytics will tell a larger player drop-off than expected, and less players reaching the power cap within the first few weeks.

[@MrNoble1997]

Yeah bc you don't actually need to grind those levels anyway. Yall are overreacting

[@herb96g]

@@MrNoble1997 is having to re-level everything (one by one) in your inventory is fun? That being said, the ARTIFACT level grind is there, not sure why the grind wasn’t tied to that?

[@liontamer5841]

MY NEW OPINION ON MY CRAYON MAIN CLASS IS FINALLY HERE

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

I feel Bungie leaning on the tank damage healer philosophy for each of the 3 classes could go a long way.

[@TheMedicinalMan]

Not when warlocks have been begging for high damage options since D1 because they were usually last place damage wise barring a few moments in time. Plus, warlock has NEVER been a word used for a healer. It makes no sense for any of these classes based on their names to be a healer

[@ruubedo]

Healer warlock fucking sucks and its just well jail

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

​@@ruubedothe issue with healer warlock is that everything that isn't well is underwhelming. Like warlock should be the one with the most support options (especially post class rework where a lot of warlock gimmicks were given to other classes), but it doesn't mean they should be locked to a healer and not be able to hold their own.

[@triplecombogaming]

I don't know about that. The community has shown that it's not too fond of Hunters being top DPS (Still, Hunt Celestial Nighthawk because it made titans and warlocks feel weak, even though Star-Eater Scales wasn't available yet for Twilight Arsenal and Nova Bomb [which is now probably the highest damaging super......]), or being put on the ultimate support role (Well of Radiance Warlock basically making people immortal), resulting in nerfs. That said, adding tank mechanics was needed because there isn't much there already compared to support options and dps.

[@nightismonochrome]

I'd note it as "Warrior, Mage, Archer/Thief". Maybe even "Strength, Intelligence, Dexterity", and all have the potential for tank, damage, and heal in their own way.

[@ColinRoxs]

After spending this entire episode getting raw dogged by rng I don't know how I feel about the pinnacle cap being raised. There needs to be some kind of weighting introduced to steer drops toward where they are needed because yeeesh.

[@archmagetyler]

Fun fact, they’ve supposedly done this 6 or 7 times through out d2s history

[@zachbelstra4901]

Love the monotone ‘New York City’ cut-in over what sounded like Seattle in the art show announcements. 😂😂

[@84m30]

21:57 very enthused editor datto

[@dankerbell]

excited to have more of a reason to play my titan, but without the arc warlock supers getting good buffs and with a new power grind, sparking zero's looking more and more enticing

[@ThePackman627]

Yeah I don't understand why some people think the power level changes are good. It's just a number going up and if that's the only thing keeping you playing the game then you are only playing to make a number go up And red borders for raids are great. It gives you a deterministic time frame of you getting a weapon. Plus even with random rolls for raids, people would only run the raid maybe 30 times at most and then be completely done with it by that point

[@Bugattiboy912]

It's gonna be hard to be a tank and give overshield support when both the bastion barricade (because it now taunts enemies) and the overshield just gets instantly deleted and has like a one minute base cooldown.

[@abubakarboyi9766]

Oh, now that you mentioned it, that's gonna suck. They have to revert the cooldown change for PvE then.

[@hw811gaming6]

​@@abubakarboyi9766 yall know that there are ways to get class ability back even faster right? Right?

[@abubakarboyi9766]

@@hw811gaming6 I guess, haven't used Void Titan in a long time. Is it sustainable in Nightfalls?

[@hw811gaming6]

@@abubakarboyi9766 besides speedrunning contents, yes Void Titan is now (and even more so in Episode 2) is more sustainable in all contents. There are mods, weapon perks, and even elemental pick up (Void breach, Ionic Trace) to give back class ability faster. Hope this helps.

[@lastwymsi]

Did you miss the part of all barricades taking 50% less damage now?

[@kylemccormack1785]

I think the player base has done so much damage to itself, that they literally can't hear good news. These buffs are EXCELLENT. I imagine DIFFERENT buffs will be coming to reinforce core class identity for the Hunter and Warlock too. Hunters have been asking for a small but meaningful buff to their movement speed and base/max jump height, and a slightly faster and farther dodge. I think that's a great idea, as long as it's reasonable. Warlocks, not sure what they want but I hope they get it lol.

[@BlaqAdam]

I cant wait to have all these Titan changes for 1 whole week before a dev gets killed by it and takes it all back

[@joeliolioli4156]

If that’s how you think the game is balanced 10 years in theres no hope for you

[@BlaqAdam]

@@joeliolioli4156 if you think that’s how someone genuinely thinks the game is balanced then there’s no hope in your ability to exist on the internet

[@ahreuwu]

y'all need to stop getting angry at things Bungie hasn't done but you think they will so it's as if it happened already

[@BlaqAdam]

@@ahreuwu did they nerf bonk hammer? Eliminate titan skate? Take away weapons of light? Reduce the damage ward of dawn can take? Nerf banner of war, 3 times? shoulder charge? peacekeepers? Synthoceps? sun breaker? But let me wait until they ACTUALLY nerf titans before I complain

[@ahreuwu]

@@BlaqAdam read my comment again.

[@mr._.mav792]

On another note, awhile ago I had a buff idea for Crest of Alpha Lupi that its generic healing pulse be changed to Cure x2, and it emits the burst on occasion intead of just on cast. Since enemies will now specifically shoot the barricade, it could be a nice buff that reaching certain damage thresholds on the barricade is when said bursts of healing could trigger.

[@DarkDemon259]

If they are willing to have classes lean more into the tank/healer/dps roles, what about a solar aspect for warlock that lets them consume their grenade to have primary and secondary weapons act like pseudo support frames for a while that heal when targeting teammates. The healing projectile type and amount of health healed would be based on the weapon type. Something like Lumina's Noble Rounds for low rpm frame weapons like hand cannons, glaives and rocket sidearms; No Hesitation style healing projectiles for higher rpm weapon like autos, smgs and pulses; maybe have GLs literally shoot out healing grenades and shotguns can do a Tractor Cannon blast of healing to heal multiple allies at a time. Have special weapons provide buffs like restoration (if empowering rift equipped) or radiant (if healing rift equipped) or scorching rounds (if phoenix dive equipped) when used on teammates to balance out the ammo cost of using specials. Make the aspect auto-trigger and make buffs last longer when you use Song of Flame or when standing in a Well of Radiance. Imagine warlocks bringing shotguns into a boss dps phase to hit teammates with a tractor cannon style healing blast that gives a quick radiant buff as a part of their damage rotation. Unique ways to support a raid team rather than simply dropping a Well and using Divinity could open up room for unique boss mechanic ideas like a boss that can only be damaged by three players at a time who are forced to stand on slow damaging plates around it to do damage (imagine the Shuro Chi plates). Two teammates (taunting titans ideally) would focus on protecting the dps team from thrall and knights while a warlock is keeping them alive and buffed to maximize damage and how long they can stay on the plates.

[@tyinyk]

While I'm happy to see SOME effort being made to bring Titans up to the snuff of the other classes and give them an actual class identity of their own, I don't think that these buffs will actually amount to much in that regard. It's a couple of minor token changes, for a class that really needs a fundamental overhaul and aspect reworks. I hope this is a sign of continued work in the future, though.

[@aranax418]

Cap these changes are gonna make titan so much more fun

[@ChromeDomeAlex]

@@aranax418it’s not even that big of a change tho. The only big change is barricade taunting and better void over shield. Still a far cry from where titan needs to be.

[@aranax418]

@@ChromeDomeAlex shiver strike being a useable melee is going to buff behemoth and give more choices to prism (who only uses shield throw or consecration); Ice lance frost armor is huge group and solo; echo of domination buff is crazy for titan who has such easy access to both suppress and freeze; base melee stun multiplier will help alot when ur in those sticky spots. Can easily think of a echo of dom shiverstrike ice lance unbreakable support tank build for prism add spirit of inmost light and spirit of scars and that shit would GO CRAZY (atleast in my head until i try it out). EDIT: can def think of a few pve viable pve void and statis build aswell now. I would say arc needs love tho even with knockout and thundercrash buffs. Not to mention that taunt isnt such a straight forward change. Bungie can now literally make certain engagements much harder without a titan/tank more readily. They can overload certain areas with mobs knowing that they are now meant to be controlled by the titan/tank properly. Overall really nice changes.

[@tyinyk]

@@aranax418 I'm not disagreeing that these changes are good across the board. I'm just saying that this is just one small step when Titan needs much larger, more fundamental changes. I hope that they continue to work towards that, instead of patting themselves on the back for this one good band-aid, and then go back to what they were doing before. Only time will tell.

[@aranax418]

@@tyinyk well that goes without saying. All im saying is the foundation they are setting here is not to scoff at. These are not minor by any means.

[@GodEater015]

Fun fact: Enmity has always been in the game. A guardian in there super will ALWAYS be targeted first over a player that are close to a boss.

[@cldus7442]

the 24:02 video length is very good. 10/10

[@3030150remember]

No real changes to Prismatic Titan, at least nothing that changes us from the copy-paste Consecration with Syntho build. Was really hoping that we could pull away from the melee focus on Prismatic more, maybe get access to Devour or more Restoration options.

[@Zero-rj6re]

I agree with you. At first I thought with exotic class items you could combine all exotic class items and not just a select few. Was really hopping to somehow combine lorely with 2x restoration from stronghold

[@3030150remember]

@@Zero-rj6re Even when they encourage melee builds, they don't fix Shield Throw. Terrible damage, terrible tracking, totally unreliable.

[@D4backpacks]

This change will make me equip towering barricade again for the first time in at least 6 months Great change

[@Emma-Lumi]

the barrinade exotic will be quite interesting with the taunting

[@ready1player31]

This is so awesome. Now I just want weapons of light back on bubble by default, and let helm of saint grant a void over shield when passing through bubble + make weapons of light a 40% damage buff

[@VannaSsus]

Titans had to wait for two entire games to become what they were supposed to be... Better late than never.😂

[@mattgibbia2692]

The titan changes are good to see. The power grind coming back not so much. That is kinda awful. Just remove power altogether. It already barely matters

[@MonsoonHunter]

Especially when everything you go into locks you power level anyway

[@n4n196]

I agree. Power sucks. Endgame should be about gear

[@CruiserToneFan]

I agree. The power grind is a pointless feature, all it does is intentionally slow down the gameplay, and gives us a pointless grind that shouldn't exist.

[@riplix20]

@@CruiserToneFan I mean considering current player retention I bet they’re afraid people are just gonna leave immediately after they do everything they want which they can access immediately due to no power levels. That’s just my take though of course.

[@justclyde3160]

Just wait for next year when we go to 250 power

[@Grassdia]

I really wish they removed power all together atp

[@DigiThorn]

I felt like that one Gif of Plankton while reading the buffs coming to Titan

[@corvin_nl3455]

All my Titan mates are THRIVING. As a Staglock- I’ll be there with you Titan bros to give you a spicy def rift so you can live your best life holding the line.

[@infiniteshades079]

Get this man a cookie 🍪 ❤

[@zacbourn5104]

I'm a titan main and these are trivial

[@damianpalmer4250]

15:20 Superhot reference???

[@RoyaltonDrummer922]

Another ability Titans could get could be marking high value targets and giving teammates a damage buff against that target

[@smakadragon]

Like old Fang of Ir Yut

[@g0g0duck20]

HOLY SHIT Titan actually getting unpowered melee buffs that differentiate it as the "melee class." it's been for the last 10 years!!!!!! Crazy....

[@vezzongaming2230]

I still think they should add the melee return from insurmountable skull for to the class item remove a useless exotic perk and swap it out with Skullfort. Just don’t allow it to work on a concencration kill so your forced to choose to either concentrate everything and wait for your melees to come back OR use normal melee abilities and have it consistently returned to you if you get a kill with it. Gives you choice for the gameplay loop but allows people to get off of concecration aspect and use other things. However the Skullfort ability on the class item wouldn’t come with the built in heal ONLY the melee refund so you’ll still need knockout if you want the heals.

[@julianveltheer3653]

That's it?! Unbreakable won't be used it's just doesn't deal enough damage. The taunt is neat but I don't think this stuff is moving the needle to much if at all.

[@TzrcWolf_]

Very interesting changes, I hope they continue these changes to increase class diversity again. Ever since the 3.0 classes, class diversity has felt kinda gone, so adding a unique passive to titans is very good in terms of redesigning them as juggernauts / tanks.

[@LycorisLilyP]

I honestly wish that each class leaned far more heavily into their respective roles. Make titans have tons more health and aggro grab along with these new tweaks. Let hunters specialise in single target damage but be somewhat less healthy or something. Then let warlocks lean even more into support/weak enemy AoE than they currently can with stuff like speaker's sight and lightning surge abilities, etc, then be able to buff others to play their part in DPS. I think it'd make playing each different class a lot more unique and fun and increase playtime between classes, instead of each class feeling generally the same (thus I only ever play one per season). It'd also incentivise taking at least one of each class into pve activities

[@smakadragon]

Every time I've mentioned this sort of this in the last 10 years you get people coming out of the woodwork screaming their heads off on how this would ruin the game

[@887Bingo]

Woah woah buddy. You're making too much sense here. This is Bungie we're talking about. Although, now Sony is on their butts, we may have a competent Bungie now. Also, I recommend giving the hunters bacon double cheeseburgers. So they become more unhealthy.

[@aubendog]

Good time to be a crayon connoisseur

[@DeLawrence97]

I actually do think we're going in the Tank/Healer/DPS trinity, except it's more like Tank(DPS)/Healer(DPS)/DPS(DPS) type of thing. Lately, I haven't taken off a pure Solar healer build with Speaker's Sight for my Warlock and what's great about it is that I don't feel lacking in offensive power(although the artifact probably helps a lot). Between Hellion, the Snap (and high uptime thanks to Benevolence) along an incandescent gun and Song of Flame allowing for even safer DPS/protection, it's really become one of my favourite builds.

[@disqustedd]

i get that these buffs make tank/defensive style gameplay more viable but with how good more offense focused builds are i dont think these changes are gonna shift the meta in any significant way, and given that they dont wanna completely change some parts of titans kit i dont think we're ever gonna seriously use tank builds unless we get to reckoning levels of enemy and encounter design

[@ianorchard7178]

The Titan buff situation is crazy

[@TCB_Repentless]

The power changes are just contradictory, it doesn't make sense. The reason fireteam power is viewed as a success is that it removes power from being a limiting factor, but you increase the power level, thus making power being a limiting factor in who/what can be played.

[@SivaExperiment]

The amplified on lightning surge means I can open up a fragment slot on my build (cause I currently have the one that has a chance to grant it on arc kill and LS is my main source of amp on the build) so I’m pretty hyped for that

[@TheThrongler9605]

I really hope that there are more buffs than these. Most of these buffs bring the absolute worst to an "ok I might use this in a niche case." none of this stuff really moves the needle on titan strength for me.

[@DaReaIJesus]

It was stated early on in the TWID that this is just the first round of buffs coming to Titan with more coming in the future. I'm hoping this is true.

[@Quantum_Magnus]

11:44, to this point, I still think in higher tier content, void overshield will still be stripped off you pretty quickly. Without seeing it in action, I might be wrong, though. Like suppose you plop down a Bastion barricade and charge towards a champion getting ready to Peregrine Greaves it to death and your overshield gets stripped off from the amount of damage you take. I think there should be a 5 second “Lingering Overshield” buff that acts as a way to get effects like Offensive Bulwark to remain procced even though you don’t have an overshield. Any thoughts?

[@jerisj.8971]

Not completely related but id like to have the ward of dawn have better interactions or potentially have more exotics improve its performance. For example, Citan's Rampart could allow for ward of Dawn to be semi Permeable (allow bullets and energy based weapons to be fired from the inside for allies, but maybe exlude explosive munitions and grenades). The ward could provide its usual buffs, but have less uptime/HP, and increase the charge time of the super when equipped - for balancing if needed.

[@PapaAwiz]

I feel like not enough people are honing in on the fact that outside of red bars...quite literally the weakest & easiest ads to kill in the entire game...this new taunt is effectively going to draw aggro from nothing. lol. I didn't even register the other part until Datto mentioned it but we also have to sit our asses behind the wall for the taunt to even "work". Can anyone realistically think of ANY scenario in the game where we'd want to taunt a bunch of red bars....when we could easily just...kill them instead? I mean seriously. The taunt idea is FANTASTIC....until that reveal that it only works on reds.

[@tony1990]

Being able to draw aggro from garbo enemies off your Fireteam is helpful IMO.

[@pugwash1]

Hey red bars in higher end stuff is quite problematic if ya can get them off your teammates back so they get some breathing room that’s good this can be good for higher end stuff

[@NinaFaenation]

@@pugwash1 That would still require the titan to be behind the barricade for the effect to work which in a game that rewards physically moving around you'd be an absolute clown trying to make a big ordeal over such a simple engagement all to just say you drew aggro from an enemy. Just blast the thing and keep moving. I think people are completely over selling how differently things will be with this in the game.

[@JaySouth_QC]

​@@NinaFaenationyea your probly right.. All we want is every nerf to solar arc and strand happened in last year to be revert :( we got nerfed so hard back to back to back for nothing and now everything suck

[@lastwymsi]

Counterpoint: Unbreakable. Its biggest upset when being used is when Enemies just REFUSE to shoot at you when you cast it. Now theyll actually charge the damge thing AND charge your super if you use ursa

[@michaelbell5]

My brother is a Titan main. He will LOVE this. I'm a Warlock main, but I've been happy with where Warlocks are other than Nova Warp and Chaos Reach. I usually use Prismatic Warlock anyway, so it doesn't affect me.

[@FurryPlayz]

Ever since I started D2 little over a year ago, I had always thought that the titans were suppose to be the tank class, not the melee class. And now that I have a little over 250hrs on Titan ALONE I can confidently say that I am proud to be a Titan main

[@thizzmonkey7846]

Been playing with the changes and it was well worth the wait. Titans feel like actual tanks now. But im not gonna hold my breath because it will likely be short lived.

[@diontes1480]

Though theres not many, that overshield buff is a direct slam dunk for Mothkeeper Hunters with Ex Diris or Buried Bloodline spam. Unpowered melee buff will make Synthos even stronger by accident

[@DMONEY721020]

Playtime has dropped for everyone. There just isn’t enough new to do. And I can assure you increasing power won’t raise player engagement/ retention tbh it’ll do the opposite

[@paladindoesd2]

I think its really funny that nova warp has gotten like a 200% increase in damage since it was originally introduced and its still probably going to suck

[@reallyminty8386]

If the taunt gets the redbars to stop shooting and try to punch the titan, THAT would be sweet. Imagine dropping a wall and then punching everything that rushes you or shotgunning everything

[@Guile_The_Exile]

9:07 SPIRITUAL LEVELS OF UNDERSTANDING AND FRUSTRATION OMG.

[@evansaldana7399]

12:04 yeah...I thought consecration was reworked for prismatic... Actually IIRC it wasn't actually working to shatter the crystals.

[@Magmoormaster]

Genuinely thought the thumbnail said titan butts, which made the image of a player looking thru binocs so much funnier

[@leecorrigan8394]

Lightning surge with Karnsteins was really good in season of the haunted, helped me solo that dungeon

[@Luxian2842]

we are slowly making the holy trinity and i am all for it

[@azianperc]

Datto, your nails look good in this. Just wanted to call it out!

[@Succulent-fn7gd]

Datto really had the "New Yorker" vibes this video

[@1chill_623]

Hopefully the t crash buff will have it where CoTFS won’t be mandatory for it to always do very high t

[@1chill_623]

When they said ability tuning, I was worried they were gonna gut Consecration w Synthos, it’s the only good thing on prismatic

[@ayejay2688]

i absolutely positively cannot wait to continue avoiding my void titan build like the plague

[@Sadcatblake]

Finally titans are about to feel as good as they did in d1! Maybe not as melee focused as they use to be with infinite shoulder charges but im happy

[@sundalius]

Around 6:30, Datto says "I don't think we'll actually go into the Holy Trinity: Tank, Healer, Damage Dealer." But we already have. No Hesi Speaker Sight Benevolence has locked down Warlocks as the dominant Healer class. Taunt Barricades and increased defense are going to firmly make Titans tanky. Hunters are glass cannon target removal with a buff focused on non-boss damage with the single most used Hunter super and a NERF to our close combat sustainability option (combo blow). We're already there.

[@potato1341]

While titan changes seem to be THE most crucial thing right now, I SO badly hope that the next priority is equalising the 6 major armour stats, or at least SOME balance adjustment! For PVE, it's simply too unbalanced. Mobility and intellect are bordering on worthless where discipline's been a great option for years and resilience has been PVE player's best friend since season of the HAUNTED (over 2 years ago now). And evne recovery is suffering with all the ways to regenerate health being baked into subclass, weapon, exotic armour kits etc. I would just like to see some changes made. Make intellect just grant more super energy from more sources like damage, kills, orbs or power, helmet mods etc. Make recovery give the player more health from HP giving effects (Something like cure 1x at reco 3 gives 60 HP, 40 HP at 0 reco and 100 HP at 10 reco). And make mobility ACTUALLY a noticeable stat. Minor buffs to walk, strafe and crouch speeds and SLIGHTLY buffing the basic grounded jump is worthless. Give it faster sprint speed, more jump height, let people descend faster if they crouch mid air, give them superb in air momentum control, give them more slide distance, make them super fast when walking/strafing, make them lose less speed/jump height or recover from slowing effects faster, give it an airborne accuracy buff, let hunters dodge further. It's been the worst stat in the game since D1 when it was called agility and has not had a minute in the spotlight...

[@Kagetheorc]

My first thought: The barely used titan exotic that turned your barricade into an overshield? I think with this coming change, it should also deploy a mini Citan's Rampart barricade right in front of you for the duration. That way you can kinda be a mobile tankish character. Is it gonna be great? Probably not, but would be more fun than whatever it is now. Also, your nails look amazing!!! I can't really tell, but what colour is that?

[@nightismonochrome]

The void overshield buff is a nice change. I main Hunter, but sometims I like to just play void titan and plop down a bastion wall to give my buddies a shield during dps.

[@Mr_PocketAces]

How about adding a suck effect to nova warp at the moment you reach full charge. So enemies get pulled in a little bit right before you release

[@Tixrok]

Barricades should have color ticks based on how close it is to destruction.

[@neon4706]

"Howl of the Storm can be used while Glacial Quake is active" I'm sorry, but did they remove this? This was already working as recently as Lightfall, so unless they somehow bugged it out of the game, this isn't a change. How about they make Tempest Strike useable while in Arcstaff? Also, maybe us Warlocks could finally get to be the magic class, instead of whatever we are now. Titans and Hunters have more ability chaining builds than Warlocks do. In the Final Shape I put together two melee builds on Warlock because I'm so sick of the Healer and Construct builds we've been shoehorned into. The only subclass that still makes me *feel* like a warlock is void. They locked Handheld Supernova to Magnetic Grenade, so no one is using it. Just make it its own grenade or aspect already. They made Ballidorse Wrathweavers useless with the change from Stasis Shield to Frost Armor. Pre-Final Shape, stasis warlocks could provide overshields with empowering rift on Frostpulse, which actually made rift useful for once, and the overshield made Winter's Wrath an actually useful super in PvE. With frost armor it's just Damage Resistance, which is pretty useless with how many hits you take while casting your rift. Frost armor should've been a weaker overshield that stacks, and "shatters" when broken. This also would've fixed the lack of tools Stasis Warlocks have to utilize Shatter. Arc Warlock is a joke, I only use Lightning Surge on Prismatic because I can trigger healing with it. It also actually kills things if you run synthoceps on the exotic bond, syntho/assassin's cowl combo is great. Every arc class now has the ability to jolt targets and chain lightning. Titans and Hunters are actually better at it with things like Heart of Inmost Light, Armamentarium, Lucky Raspberry, and Shinobu's Vow. Titans even have an aspect that buffs Arc Grenade. Base Arc Warlock has pathetic survivability and pathetic ability spam. It used to have Arc Web to clear the field, but now the only thing it's good at is spawning Arc Souls. Promethium Spurs are useless without Daybreak extending on kill, and the neutral game effect is convoluted as hell. You need to run rift, put one down, stand in it while killing things with solar weapons to recharge your rift, then if you can get that rift recharged before the current rift runs out, you can spawn another rift on kill. With such ease of use, it's a wonder why NO ONE is running this exotic. Just give us an Improved Rift when these are equipped, or let us generate class ability on kill without standing inside an existing rift so we can trigger it while running Pheonix Dive. They actually tried changing it back in Seraph, and then reverted it back to being useless.

[@tuck3771]

16:40 Howl of the Storm is super fun for stunning and freezing things right in front of you. It just sucks because you want to use it with cryoclasm, but you have to use it with tectonic harvest 😔 But it is pretty underwhelming, and cheesy in pvp lol

[@angiejensen1972]

With aggro being applied to Sentinel Shield, I’ll be using Ursa Furiosa more

[@AntonioFelipePitta]

this give me hope for hunter to also get some identity. We still don't have anything unique about our main stat.

[@strakk]

Very nice buffs, they don't really help the case of the "identity" of the subclasses themselves, they're all still pretty similar but i am very happy with these buffs.

[@jabenero1389]

Not sure how useful it will be, but Howl of the Storm while Glacial Quake is active should basically be an extended Stasis Consecration

[@DonutRush]

My playtime has also plummeted. You know what definitely isn't going to make it come back? The power level grind.

[@Crushanator1]

Forcing engagement through artificial grind is the go to move every time

[@DylanMARSICEK]

Buddy fireteam power will carry, u don't even have to play, the people who get the power will get you to the max level automatically. Like buddy

[@DonutRush]

@@DylanMARSICEK I am the person who would drag my friends up, if any of them had bothered to come back after the shitshow that was Lightfall. I am not interested in being the person pulling Johnny LFG up to power cap long term. I am sick of this awful RNG dependent, slow leveling system. I didn't mind doing it for TFS, so I could say "don't worry friends, I got this" but I will not continue to do this all year since nobody came back but me. Enormous own-goal from Bungie, continuing to prove they have nobody actually bothering to read the room on anything happening in their game.

[@DylanMARSICEK]

@DonutRush wait. Hold up. Why are you even complaining? You haven't played in over a year if that's what I'm getting from this. Like, buddy. Forgive if I'm wrong.

[@joeliolioli4156]

@@DylanMARSICEKthats the problem. Everyone is gonna start assumig that others will carry them up, and nobody will be hight enough

[@killzone014]

All I want now is the bubble to have slightly more durability in pve, especially against bosses. Not overpowered like pre nerf well of radiance but still manage to keep up in endgame.

[@CGSTARBAR]

I will not deny until I was made aware of changes like this and some other things coming. I completely gave up on the game. Granted, I’m not getting my hopes up too high because of the past when something like this happens not too long after things get shafted but this is a good start. I hope they keep it like this and keep going up instead of going back to what we were.

[@kofiagyeman]

Just when I think I’m out, they’re… Oh, maybe not pulling me back in.

[@tristanlambert658]

I’m actually gassed for the stasis Titan buffs specifically. Diamond Lance and Shiver Strike buffs are huuuuge.

[@joshtenney4143]

Interested in the Unbreakable and shiver strike buffs, but not really excited for anything overall. Based on what we know I expect to do the new dungeon a few times and then step away again.

[@patthemat7134]

I need them to give bubble a little window to complete the fantasy

[@MichaelYang]

Exotic for Barricade, that deploys 3 smaller shields that you and allies can pick up as a Citan-like shield that you can either throw for a elemental explosion or gives elemental effects to your weapons, depending on Super being used, for 10 seconds when picked up. Arc- Voltshot Solar- Incandescent Void- Volatile or Destabilizing Rounds Stasis- Chill Clip rounds Strand- Severance Burst on kills or Hatchling rounds What do you guys think?

[@tysonkrunek4132]

Guess hunters will become the “control” so we have a tank a healer and a control character. Warlocks have so much healing potential right now it’s kinda weird. Power leads should get bonus rewards to incentivize the grind and putting others in their backpacks and carrying them through

[@charlieteneyck6797]

Maybe I’m an idiot but this taunt barricade mechanic I just don’t see the benefit to it as they describe it. So red bars will shoot it if I stay behind it the enemies we can destroy with a fart will be focused on it? The only reason I can think of wanting this would be to keep some adds focused there so I don’t have to kill them so when I need to I can proxy some other mechanic. Hopefully in practice I’ll find some advantage to it.

[@mysticstar19]

Also lightning surge with Felwinters is amazing in end game