TITLEIST 620 MB MID HANDICAP TEST - I DID NOT EXPECT THAT!

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James Robinson Golf

James Robinson Golf

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@uwrossl
@uwrossl 5 жыл бұрын
If you can strike the ball you can play blades. I still think it makes you a better player over time because it forces you to start finding the middle of the club. Ping's are fitted for Mark so that along with lofts probably played into his numbers a bit? Really a great time to be playing golf....SOOOO many good options on the market for every level of player and every budget I think. My equipment was all 12-15 years old as I hadn't been able to play much due to time constraints and changed my whole bag out this year with my first ever set of custom fitted clubs. Man do you see a big jump in performance with equipment over that many generations and can't say enough about custom fitting. Wish I would have gone down that path years ago. Definitely worth the investment.
@glennwiebe5128
@glennwiebe5128 5 жыл бұрын
From my personal experience, using a blade will help you become a better ball striker. Having used mizuno t-zoid pro's for over 15 years (why fix what isn't broken), they teach you how to hit it pure. If you miss the sweet spot you get instant feedback. Conversely, a well struck shot is rewarded by that "buttery" feel. Use blades!
@JordansTake35
@JordansTake35 4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest any player of 12 handicap or below and especially 12s with a high swing speed consider blades. The newer blades have softer leading edges and are more forgiving on fat and skinny shots than old blades, and if you have a high swing speed you don't lose that much distance on off center swings. Also blades make you focus more because in the back of your mind you know they are blades, because of that you are less likely to over swing, or think that you can get away with a reckless swing because of technology. I started hitting the ball better when I switched to blades and I couldn't figure out why, took me a while to realize that this was the case.
@jeremyreeves5349
@jeremyreeves5349 5 жыл бұрын
Any handicap can play these clubs, it's all about hitting the sweet spot consistently and this highlights the importance of getting properly fit for new irons. These clubs look great and I put them in the category of the new Ping Blueprint irons, which also look amazing. I'm a 2 handicap and that thin topline in the 5, 4, 3 irons doesn't exactly fill me with confidence at address. If I went with a true bladed set of irons, I'd probably opt for a combo set to replace those clubs with a CB iron in the range. Great video!
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Reeves totally agree! You know, Justin Thomas plays MBs and he actually replaced his 4i with a T100, not a CB!
@jaybyrne4562
@jaybyrne4562 5 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna seriously look at the MP20 blades when they get released, plus the MBs, currently playing AP2s but just love the look of blades!
@jaybyrne4562
@jaybyrne4562 5 жыл бұрын
All the comments of "Mark isn't a mid handicapper" make me laugh. I'm off 11, hit 7 iron 175-185, 5 iron 210- 220, driver 270+ carry, swing like 2 hcap, then I have the horror shots, 3 off tee, duffed chips etc, hence why I'm off 11. Mark is similar in that respect, loads of great shots, then a few bad. Hence mid handicap!
@jaybyrne4562
@jaybyrne4562 5 жыл бұрын
@@markspriggs1962 I played in a comp last year, 14 hcap at time. 4 over par after 15 holes. Finshed 12 over par! 🙈 Back to back trebles and a double. Welcome to mid handicap golf 😂😂😂
@markspriggs1962
@markspriggs1962 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 😀
@merkeva1841
@merkeva1841 5 жыл бұрын
i think the real question is can you hit the sweet spot i dont think it matters on your handicap
@spotmfd9431
@spotmfd9431 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree if you can can hit the sweet spot every time you would you would be close to scratch golfer. I went from a 5 to a 2 in a few months when I finally gave up on my blades this year.
@jenton70
@jenton70 4 жыл бұрын
In a 35 year love affair with golf, I've yet to see game improvement irons improve anyone's game. I've had many iron sets and always come back to blades. Most of my best rounds were played with them. You need to set up better. You need to concentrate on a solid strike. They should not be considered scary to anyone.
@livingtribunal4110
@livingtribunal4110 7 ай бұрын
Only 3 years late but your post speaks volumes, especially the 'game non-improvement irons' bit. 100% in agreement with your post. The tiresome "you shouldn't use forged blades" argument is up there with golfers upgrading to the latest driver w/whatever bs technology golf manufacturers come up with to con people into thinking they’ve got an extra, secret 10-15 yards on their drives if they shell out _another_ £300
@bladeduffer
@bladeduffer 6 ай бұрын
@@livingtribunal4110 , Late to this party myself but I agree with your agreement. I don't know how people haven't shamed the industry into renaming "game improvement" to what they actually are, Score Improvement" . I too have never found someone a person who's game was actually improved by those clubs.
@gunnarjinx
@gunnarjinx 5 жыл бұрын
LOOOVE the FINALLY longer swing and better finish to Mark's swing.... he's coming for you James ;)
@althomas7951
@althomas7951 4 жыл бұрын
James, I've only just come across you. This is possibly the most useful and informative video I've seen to help amateurs with iron choice! Your friend hits his irons a little further than the average amateur though.
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
@althomas7951
@althomas7951 4 жыл бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolf no problem. I quite enjoy the videos you've put out there. I may come and play uour course sometime too.
@goamber2162
@goamber2162 5 жыл бұрын
Agree Mark try everything. Can’t wait to see you guys with the MP20.
@petegalindez9961
@petegalindez9961 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure I’d agree with that conclusion…If your enjoyment from golf is getting the lowest scores possible, then get the most forgiving, numb club you can hit within the rules…but, if your idea of an enjoying round of golf is coming away with a few memorable shots (feeling wise), then play blades!!! I am about a 10 handicapper, but I spend way more time hitting on the range than I do playing a round…so, for me, hitting buckets of balls with a numb club that will give you the right distance no matter where you hit it on the face isn’t as appealing to me as getting on the range with a set of blades that you know will just feel special when you hit them right! Give me the blades any day!! You constantly hear reviewers say, “pros aren’t playing these, so you probably shouldn’t either.” Pros will give up feel, shot shaping, etc, if it puts more $$$ in their pocket. Just the nature of the beast. So, they can’t afford to put feel and memorable shots before making a living…just the facts…
@jdpst20
@jdpst20 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a 9 Handicap currently and I'm using Callaway X Hot 2 and I've been playing them ever since they came out oh maybe 7 years ago I think. I've been golfing on and off back then and I made my first clubs about 20 years ago. I really improved my game over the last 2-4 years but I DON'T attest that to using GI irons, but I contribute that to playing A LOT more often, and hitting the range which improved my game. I've sort of hit a plateau where I've been trying to place my shots and be more consistent with my shots, however I feel that I've lost confidence in my Callaway clubs and play them with a lazy attitude, as I think they will just correct my errors. I recently got a fitting of these new 620 MB irons and I have to say WOW! I felt a bit nervous at first since I've never shot blades before, however once I got dialed in with shaft selection, and lie angle I was consistently striking the ball center and out of 10 shots with my 7 iron I was withing a 10 circle and off distance was withing 1-2 yards. Looking down at the ball I feel so confident now knowing that I can work the ball how I want and having the instant feedback on range days I can improve my game easier. I still am waiting to order them out here in Oahu, HI, but I can not wait to have them come in and get some rounds under my belt. I might jump from an 8 to a 10 or 11 HP however I know after I get used to the clubs I will dip below 8 almost certainly once I dial in my accuracy with all my clubs.
@kimhannemann
@kimhannemann 5 жыл бұрын
Love your opening when you walk in and "catch" Mark doing something ... verboten. Comic relief.
@rnc9909
@rnc9909 17 күн бұрын
I am a beginner When i wanted to start, i wanted to pick the most forgiving iron set. One year later for the first time i by mistake hit with a 4i Titleist 620 forged. Everything changed!
@kroceee
@kroceee 5 жыл бұрын
I am super curious to see what Mark thinks and how he will perform with Honma irons? P, V, and X irons. Love your videos and keep up the great work!
@andrewmiller4837
@andrewmiller4837 5 жыл бұрын
You just made a bunch of 18 cappers transform into 25’s.
@ianowen3992
@ianowen3992 5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t got a handicap but if I did it would be high I use Mizuno mp32’s PW-4 Simply because they look amazing And when I hit a good shot I know that good shot was me and me alone I’m quite content to hit 3 bad shots for the one time I pure the four
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
ian owen I have MP-32s also! I don’t regularly play them but I do break them out from time to time for fun or when I’m between clubs! Ie. waiting for a custom order in the mail! I’ll never get rid of them! They are amazing!
@majorsmythe1
@majorsmythe1 5 жыл бұрын
Good for you. You live once- GREAT irons- Enjoy.
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Did you know there are many who believe that these are among the best irons EVER made?
@majorsmythe1
@majorsmythe1 5 жыл бұрын
@@richardsdiaz1 Yes they are one of them. MP 32, MP 60, MP 33, Titleist 680 , PING Eye 2,,,all rank up there.
@jarrodcolburne2409
@jarrodcolburne2409 3 жыл бұрын
I think you guys summed it up perfectly. I just bought some 712 blades because I got them for a great price, I’ve always wanted a set or titleist blades because they are sexy and I wanted them for practice. I’m a 7 hdc. Can I hit them? Yes. Could I play them? Also yes. Should i play them? No. Overall, they aren’t as scary as most people lead on.
@jeremywiltshire33
@jeremywiltshire33 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your last point to a certain extent. But if cavity backs or Game improvement irons made a real difference. Then the average handicap would be lower a lot lower. I have had to take some time off, from the competitive side of the game for personal reasons. But also my head just wasn’t right on the golf course, and that’s what a lot mid to low handicappers have to deal with (IMO). I really believe that blades don’t make so much of a difference as do your mind and your practice time on the range and the course. Getting your self mentality ready for the game, is far more important than what club is in your hand.
@samorwhatever4485
@samorwhatever4485 3 жыл бұрын
I have 1980 Wilson tour blades and there’s a 1 iron and the head is smaller than the ball... it’s so much fun when you hit it right
@donkee9
@donkee9 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a 16 been golfing for 3 years. I want to try the 620 cb when I’m done with my golftec lessons
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
michael agishian go for it! They are really nice clubs!
@donkee9
@donkee9 5 жыл бұрын
Lefty SoCal Golfer right on I’m gonna give them a look for sure. I hit a guy I golf with a mp18 4i I had never hit a blade before. I couldn’t believe how buttery they felt. Got a nice shaped shot out them too
@michaeljbrennan3728
@michaeljbrennan3728 5 жыл бұрын
James, do more club comparisons with a mid handicapper. It would be more beneficial for those of us who aren’t low handicap/scratch golfers. Outstanding content as usual.
@tommiethatcher7265
@tommiethatcher7265 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Mark 👏👏 and what a great looking set of clubs
@Adrian-yv8sy
@Adrian-yv8sy 5 жыл бұрын
numbers were great with mb's - like those mishits with 7 iron on any 7 iron would still be bad like and other 3 shots with it was consistent as you like - and are the i210's stronger lofts?
@jacobkemp7050
@jacobkemp7050 5 жыл бұрын
I love blades, the thin look is amazing, a pured blade is one of the best feelings in golf, and they have amazing distant control. However they give painful feedback if you miss off the toe alot and you will lose distant if your not striking them correctly. I'm going to try something other than blades for the first time though been getting a lot of pain I'm my wrist lately, specifically the tendon running from the thumb. So I'm hoping something more forgiving will help that out.
@zaavon9930
@zaavon9930 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro it’s like an ego thing, I wanna say I have “blades” but at the end of the day nobody gives a fuck
@Skumtomten1
@Skumtomten1 Жыл бұрын
I know its 3 years late but I don't see it as bad if you lose distance when you dont hit it pure. Missing it short left/right is often better than pin high left/right in my opinion, and when you dont hit it well it is often drifting to the side anyway so losing distance in that case isn't necessarily bad. I do hit it pretty far, so length isn't my concern, but I would aruge consistency is by far the most important trait for an iron club.
@deldridg
@deldridg 9 ай бұрын
Stunning. I hit 1 shot with a 620MB 7 iron today and somehow middled it. It was the sweetest feel shot I can remember hitting. I have been playing 716CB irons for some years now with S300 shafts. They are not very forgiving but feel wonderful when you strike it well. Standing over the 620MB was very, very much like looking at my own 7i. Should I buy them? Currently around h'cap of 8, I'm not sure I need to struggle more than I already do with my CBs. However, they do look good... and my wife is currently on business overseas... 😁 Great content and cheers from Sydney - Dave
@thomasbarnesgrimes7766
@thomasbarnesgrimes7766 5 жыл бұрын
I have ZM-b Titleist three iron which is a pure blade- it isn’t that unforgiving but you just need to have confidence
@gregorywalker4997
@gregorywalker4997 3 жыл бұрын
try finding a blade in a regular shaft used. most are stiff or xtra stiff and for me that really complicates things. of course the traditional first owner would feel shame with a reg shaft, i'm guessing. if you want that 3 or 4 thru pw set, feel free if need be to reshaft at least the long irons or just use blades 7-pw.
@simonhobbs9097
@simonhobbs9097 5 жыл бұрын
Good advert for your coaching skills James😂😂. Also, you've trumped the Titleist rep who has just fitted Mike Newton as he didn't have the blades available for Mike to try !
@studogg99
@studogg99 5 жыл бұрын
Mike seems underrated on the KZbin golf club viewer. Maybe he doesn't have the brand power...I think he's been playing other brands like srixon etc.
@markturriff994
@markturriff994 5 жыл бұрын
I play off 15 and recently changed to CBs - love them - they seems as forgiving as my AP3s
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Turriff The CBs are fantastic but they are absolutely less forgiving than AP3s! The AP3s have a much larger sweet spot! I’ve played both and currently own AP2s. Decided to split the difference!
@markturriff994
@markturriff994 5 жыл бұрын
I have my CBs out here in Africa at work and my AP3s at home in the UK - Loving playing both - I differ from you in that I find them both equally as easy/difficult to play
@markturriff994
@markturriff994 5 жыл бұрын
Lefty SoCal Golfer I’ve got a 718 T-MB 3 iron as a driving iron - it looks so stunning but this one you do need to strike well to get the best out of it
@eddiebrown687
@eddiebrown687 2 жыл бұрын
Not one mention about the feel on a center strike, which is why some people like blades....for some feel is more important than distance, you can always club down if you need to.
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@scottedmiston5850
@scottedmiston5850 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. However, test results are skewed since we didn't see the difference in loft angles between Titleist blades and Ping Eye 2. Example, Ping 9 iron is 2 degrees stronger than the blade. Results of test should account. Need a test with same specs, blade v. CB.
@mikebest634
@mikebest634 5 жыл бұрын
Before spending lots of money get fitted , I did and ended up with Mizuno 919 tours ,kbs c taper 115 lite x shafts ,never hit the ball better ,and totally unexpected results .Was using AP3 with s 300 shafts before bought of the shelf ,my game was inconsistent to the point of total 2 way miss all the time One month in with the new sticks and playing better and more consistant .Too many people get fitted with club company loyalty in mind ,go in with an open mind and use what works best ,after all none of us get paid to use Titliest ,Taylor made etc . Good video James .
@mickspsmith
@mickspsmith 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he can play with any type of clubs, he has a nice swing. But question should be after a fitting will blades be the best possible option for him to play his best.
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Smith I agree! However, I would add that it is possible to gain a great deal of enjoyment and satisfaction from playing blades even if they are a bit beyond your current skill set. Personally, I think everyone who is serious about golf should play a set of blades for a time at some point in their lives. You can learn so much about your game from the amazing feedback you get! Great way to get better!
@mickspsmith
@mickspsmith 5 жыл бұрын
@@richardsdiaz1 Yes, as a golfer who started with a mixed bag of blades, (bought one a week from pocket money). I agree completely...No harm in gaming them and seeing the pros and cons....
@jetdr
@jetdr 3 жыл бұрын
I have a set of MB's, practice with them makes my playing Irons a breeze to hit.
@GeneraILee360
@GeneraILee360 5 жыл бұрын
James, can you recommend/review the most forgiving irons but with high spin for stopping power?
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 5 жыл бұрын
Will take a look dude
@GeneraILee360
@GeneraILee360 5 жыл бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolf great thanks, I'm in need of a change from my Nike Covert 2.0's, they're great for forgiveness and distance but can't hold a flown green from 7 iron down and I find myself trying to hit an 8 iron too hard which rarely works. I plan to get fitted next month, but a guide of where to start would be great, so far narrowed down mentally to P790 / T200 or 919 Forged. Are we being blinded too much by tech and branding? Should we consider not so popular brands? Benross, Cleveland for example?
@austinpage4347
@austinpage4347 5 жыл бұрын
You guys should try sub70 golf mb and cb irons! They look fantastic and are a really good club. I would love to see you do a review on them
@ianrichmond5293
@ianrichmond5293 5 жыл бұрын
What would the results for a mid handicapper be with these against the Titleist 718 T-MB
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
I knew this was coming! knew it! Mark just can't help himself can he? He looked super excited to try the Ping Blueprint irons too! To be fair, I'm just as bad! I love forged blades too. I've owned my fair share of them over the years as well. MP-32, Hogan Apex, Hogan Radials, etc. All that said, the truth is, anyone with above average ball striking skills can play blades if they REALLY want to. Also, I'd say they'd do just fine with them too. If you are going to play them you just need to understand the differences between blades and even a tour level club like the AP2/T100: 1) Your misses will be worse than with ANYTHING else you could play. Front to back and left to right dispersion will be greater. 2) You will lose some distance 3) You will get more spin than with any other type of club. 4) Blades generally have less bounce than anything else on the market, so diggers beware! As long as you go into it understanding this and are willing to live with those differences then I don't see any reason why anyone who is a mid handicap player or better couldn't put them in the bag.....assuming that ball striking isn't the main reason why you are a mid- handicap player!
@GRUNGELEOPARD
@GRUNGELEOPARD 4 жыл бұрын
Know you’ve done it in the past but a full 18 or 9 hole score would be interesting with Mark’s thoughts on how it felt..?
@donhall-aquitania1025
@donhall-aquitania1025 4 жыл бұрын
I would be willing to ruin my game with these irons in my bag.
@FLFC77
@FLFC77 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the vlog. I think more should use blades James. The traditional lofts help imo 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@asdfkhieee
@asdfkhieee 5 жыл бұрын
We need a Rob Potter vs Mark golf match. Not sure how close you and Rick Shiels are, but make it happen.
@michaeljbrennan3728
@michaeljbrennan3728 5 жыл бұрын
Boba Defett it would be even more entertaining with James and Rick together.
@taylord9772
@taylord9772 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely cleared that bunker
@georgesealy4706
@georgesealy4706 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that a mid-handicapper would become a better player by practicing and using blades. Those 620s are some beautiful looking irons.
@dustin5007
@dustin5007 5 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping you are right. Just got a set of MBs as a gift and I'm gonna give them a go and see if I can become a better ball striker. If not my M1s will still fit in the bag perfectly.
@Q-Bits8
@Q-Bits8 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustin5007 and, did it work?
@VurpGurra
@VurpGurra 5 жыл бұрын
Hi James and Mark, nice video as usual! I’ve got a question for you guys! I’m playing at 12 handicap now and been down at 7! With my best swings I can really strike it pure but it’s a lot of bad swings in between! What sort of iron can I get that offers some nice forgiveness but don’t make me hit the ball 200 yards with the 7 iron because that’s not what I’m looking for! I just want that extra bit of forgiveness but feel like most of the reviews I se online of different irons are that they go really far if you don’t play blades! Today I’m gaming a set of Callaway Razr X forged, maybe I got them in 2012 I think. Keep up the videos, I really enjoy them.
@jimorr3252
@jimorr3252 5 жыл бұрын
I think Mark is better then a mid-handicapper, very nice swing.
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Orr his full swing certainly is. He and James have often commented that other parts of his game are responsible for his handicap being what it is. Short game generally , and sand play more specifically?
@MARTIN-pm7qc
@MARTIN-pm7qc 5 жыл бұрын
trouble is mark cant replicate that indoor swing out on the course...if you watch every video he's made on the course, he's totally flat footed, can't turn thru properly,...leaks mostly right...was obvious he would go up..i blames james, as he's his coach, yet never puts him right or tells him! but hey he's great indoors!
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
MARTIN wow...that’s harsh. And totally unfair. Not saying I agree with you... but for the sake of argument. Bringing your driving range swing to the course is a challenge that most mid-handicappers face. Seldom does a player get a perfect lie on flat ground on the golf course where everything aligns perfectly. Learning to manage your game around the golf course is hard and takes time!
@MARTIN-pm7qc
@MARTIN-pm7qc 5 жыл бұрын
@@richardsdiaz1 im not trying to be harsh! i would like to mark to understand why he is goimg up from mid handicap towards high handicap! i'm pointing out facts...every vid u watch him on course with james...james turns thru onto his right toe every shot like a good player would...mark has his feet palnted firmly on the ground! it's shocking to watch worse swing iv seen...yet indoor testing he's swinging like a decent player , seen it on range many times that swing, when its for show, the high handicappers swing like a pro! soon as on course botle goes and its a hit! mark no different hence now 15 h/c...i blame james as he's on course with him, his professional eye should be picking this up and drill it into mark to swing thru and onto his right toe....as he does indoors!! just saying
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
@@MARTIN-pm7qc I understand your point , not saying I agree, but to say you aren't trying to be harsh while still being harsh is rather....funny to me. Mark is clearly improving under James's tutelage. That mush is plain to see. I only wish I could take in-person lessons with him. As it is my online lessons with James have transformed my game. I can only imagine what in-person lessons with him could do for me.
@JPMoon
@JPMoon 5 жыл бұрын
Audio was a bit hit and miss in this one james, might be something to look at in the future, good content as per usual
@eriksvideos6022
@eriksvideos6022 5 жыл бұрын
So, in summary, cavity back game improvement irons go farther than blades. Uh, thanks. : ) Seriously though, it would have been interesting to see how how he hit these two different styles of clubs at the same lofts, and also to look at differences in dispersion and more subjective things like feel and confidence.
@Some1Had2SayIt1
@Some1Had2SayIt1 5 жыл бұрын
MARK IS HILARIOUS
@petegalindez9961
@petegalindez9961 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like Mark’s issues aren’t in the irons area….
@pqweatheroak
@pqweatheroak 7 ай бұрын
Trouble is they are totally different lofts for Christ sake - do a proper comparison
@mrwoo33
@mrwoo33 5 жыл бұрын
Think the traditional loft on the mb iron would help even though there's little technology. Pretty sure the i210 4 iron would be a lot stronger lofted 👍
@paulcurotto3884
@paulcurotto3884 5 жыл бұрын
James if you want a high handicapper to test them I am volunteering ! ( pleaeeeees) They are gorgeous. ha ha 😀
@TroyMacLean
@TroyMacLean 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really thinking switching to blades they feel amazing
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
TcM Golf if you really want to do it....go ahead! You only live once! I’ve played blades on and off my whole life. I still own a set of Mizuno MP-32s that I keep around for whenever I get the itch to play blades. I also break them out whenever I’m between clubs ( waiting for custom order in the mail) It’s fun to play blades!
@michaeljbrennan3728
@michaeljbrennan3728 5 жыл бұрын
Lefty SoCal Golfer my new clubs are a combo cavity back/ blade (One Iron single length). Haven’t played blades since 2006 (Ping i3 blades). It’s taking a bit of an adjustment. But I am liking the feel of the bladed sole.
@robbiles
@robbiles 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing like blades when your strike area is the size of a pea but when it's as big as a brusel sprout. Stick with the Pings.
@PickaYoutubeName
@PickaYoutubeName 5 жыл бұрын
Sandbagging?
@scottrolph5023
@scottrolph5023 5 жыл бұрын
The conclusion of this video is completely wrong. He hit them great. The misses he had with the MB’s still would have been just as bad with his own clubs. The confusion is about the number on the bottom of the club. Obviously the loft of the MB’s is going to cause the ball to not go as far. This test was not a test at all. Match lofts, do the test again, and you’d be splitting hairs to find differences.
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 5 жыл бұрын
This argument is completely wrong. We test club for club on the interest of fairness. And your entitled to your opinion as am I.
@OZIPUG1970
@OZIPUG1970 5 жыл бұрын
That's a better swing than a 14 lol I'm off 9 and his swing looks better than mine but my chipping and putting is good.
@mikeliebing2960
@mikeliebing2960 5 жыл бұрын
At what point do you cross from a "mid handicapper" to a "low handicapper? -- Single digit?
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah for me I think that’s the marker mate
@philgibbs9974
@philgibbs9974 5 жыл бұрын
What shafts did Mark use for this test and as a 13 handicapper myself I'd be interested in what area of his game needs improving in order to bring his handicap down as he seems to hit his irons pretty well
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Phil Gibbs he’s mentioned his short game as the main culprit in previous videos! We’ve seen him working on shots out of the sand with James recently, too. I’m guessing that’s it!
@beaney56
@beaney56 5 жыл бұрын
Marks short game must be terrible because he can hit a good ball all day long.
@markspriggs1962
@markspriggs1962 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately my short game is good!!!!
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Spriggs Hmmm...I seem to recall James and you singling our your short game as a reason for your mid handicap. Bunker play in particular? Am I mistaken? No?
@christianoster2692
@christianoster2692 5 жыл бұрын
Where did u get a custom spider cover
@michealweathers4769
@michealweathers4769 5 жыл бұрын
They look like my Miura y-grind blades.
@claytonconine3115
@claytonconine3115 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I like what you are doing to mid-handicap Mark!!
@J0k3r082
@J0k3r082 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry but it’s all in your mindset I probably have the same handycap and I still play a 1-pw true blades
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t apologise lol
@TurdFergusson318
@TurdFergusson318 Жыл бұрын
Paging all the double digit handicapers defending with their dying breath why they are the exception to using blades. Nobody is saying you can’t! It’s just probably not the best choice for your score. But you wear it like a badge of honor.
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf Жыл бұрын
This is the best comment of 2023 lol
@TurdFergusson318
@TurdFergusson318 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolf lol thanks James. Love the content. Longtime sub and value your opinion on just about anything I put I’m my bag. Question for you. I game Mizuno MP20 7-P & 6-4 MMC. Love them to death. But are starting to get a little beat. I’ve heard the 221s are not as good quality. Should I wait and see what Mizuno drops in 2024 or is another manufacturer I should give a chance?
@dogwood1963
@dogwood1963 5 жыл бұрын
Mark should be off 7 max I'd be his 4bbb partner anyday
@joeperez3520
@joeperez3520 5 жыл бұрын
Not suitable to go in Mark's bag, but at least he had an opportunity to enjoy a few sips of wine from The Grail. 😍🍷
@CH-RC
@CH-RC 5 жыл бұрын
It looks like this fellow has had one too many lessons. He's more concerned about his swing shape and finish, than hitting the ball and putting his body into it. Hit the ball as hard as you can, and find your natural rhythm, then work on consistency and see a coach for fine tuning. Starting and finishing your swing to "look pretty" before you figure out how to actually hit a ball is a waste of time ;) On the topic ... massive club heads may help you make ANY kind of contact with the ball and may help slight off-hits. But really ... if you're missing the club face by a massive amount, no "game improvement" iron is going to do a single thing. You're better off struggling to hit more compact irons and forcing yourself to become more consistent in general, by having less room for error.
@spaldex7774
@spaldex7774 5 жыл бұрын
He swings so slow and light
@gerry4451
@gerry4451 5 жыл бұрын
Nice but expensive 🤑
@neiltaylor1765
@neiltaylor1765 5 жыл бұрын
With all the tech out there now even tour players are going away from pure blades, definitely no need for club golfers to get full sets of blades
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Neil Taylor or mixed sets if they do game blades! Even Justin Thomas, who plays MBs has a T100 for a 4i!
@ubb4me
@ubb4me 5 жыл бұрын
Those don't work for him. Send them over to me would you? I mean if your done testing them.
@weathp
@weathp Жыл бұрын
No way this lad is a 14.
@tuben7406
@tuben7406 5 жыл бұрын
Im not so sure about that haircut
@TherymasterWidnes
@TherymasterWidnes 4 жыл бұрын
This is a shambles of a review
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 4 жыл бұрын
Cool story bro
@TherymasterWidnes
@TherymasterWidnes 4 жыл бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolf I wouldn’t say cool, more like true!
@jeanforget5140
@jeanforget5140 5 жыл бұрын
James you need a new mid Handicaper. a real one
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 5 жыл бұрын
Jean, I resent this comment. What you want is a high handicapper.
@jeanforget5140
@jeanforget5140 5 жыл бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolf Or mabe your lesson are just very good
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
Jean Forget or maybe you don’t understand that mid handicappers come in many different forms. Some have great swings but have terrible short games. Some have terrible swings and are absolute sharks from 109 yds and in. Some have good all around games, but are prone to making mistakes. Etc, etc... We know from watching James’s channel that Mark has developed his swing with James, which is looking great btw, but that his approach play and short game still need work. Thus he is a mid handicap!
@jeanforget5140
@jeanforget5140 5 жыл бұрын
@@richardsdiaz1 Ok, ok So let me get this , maybe I do not understand. Your explanation is very insightful. Now I get it.
@jeandupont8501
@jeandupont8501 2 жыл бұрын
That conclusion. Are you serious. You can't be more wrong. Why is that opinion still out there..
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 2 жыл бұрын
Almost as serious as how you take yourself.
@sloebone7399
@sloebone7399 5 жыл бұрын
You can take away the bad swings on the computer but not on the golf course. That’s a 40 yard difference on a mis-hit. Forty yards! With a 7 iron! So, no, a mid handicap golfer cannot play those irons. A tour pro probably shouldn’t play those irons.
@sjgraci
@sjgraci 5 жыл бұрын
And there'd be a 40 yard difference with the I-210 if he put the same shitty swing on it.
@sloebone7399
@sloebone7399 5 жыл бұрын
sjgraci - The i210 is going to fly further and straighter that the Titleist on a mis-hit. It’s what they’re designed to do.
@sjgraci
@sjgraci 5 жыл бұрын
@@sloebone7399 Yeah go on believing the marketing BS. That one shot was a pure shank. There is no iron curing that. Straighter is purely on the player. Front to back dispersion is negligible in short to mid irons. Look up D-Plane. Besides, the golf course will always even mishits out. It gives and it takes. The one area game improvement in irons helps is in launch and height, particularly in longer irons. It is why many pros play cavities and utilities in their long irons and why so many who can't get the ball airborne use shovels throughout the set.
@sloebone7399
@sloebone7399 5 жыл бұрын
sjgraci - I believe in the laws of physics. They work. Perimeter weighting is a proven technology. Watch his Ping fitting and see what the Blue prints do. How does a golf course even out mishits?
@robertgraham8813
@robertgraham8813 5 жыл бұрын
He.s got rid of his red trousers.looks like he.s wearing his slippers
@barrymccockiner9618
@barrymccockiner9618 5 жыл бұрын
U gotta get more friends
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 5 жыл бұрын
Ok mr McCockiner lol 😂
@darrenbell6376
@darrenbell6376 5 жыл бұрын
Why would you even consider these people's egos get in the way. Club golfers are killing themselves using blades loads of quality players irons out there with tons of forgiveness. Just why would any one snub forgiveness
@damitdavid
@damitdavid 5 жыл бұрын
If you're not hitting blades I question your love of the game
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
1). Because blades are fun? 2). Because they are stunningly beautiful? 3) For the feedback? You can learn a lot about your swing from them. Other clubs mask your mistakes to differing extents. 4). Because you are a really long hitter and can afford to give up a little distance for that buttery feel, and feedback? They are certainly not for everybody! But there is still a place for them in the world.
@davidcole2337
@davidcole2337 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't he just get fitted for a set up clubs? And don't think he is a Mid Handicapper.
@JamesRobinsonGolf
@JamesRobinsonGolf 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t think? It’s not an opinion it’s a fact lol
@davidcole2337
@davidcole2337 5 жыл бұрын
@@JamesRobinsonGolf The way he hits the ball is was thinking around 10 Handicap at worst.
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
David Cole he certainly had the potential to get better...that is his stated goal, after all! But facts are facts! He’s a 14! That’s the definition of a mid handicap!
@nikmak
@nikmak 2 жыл бұрын
Mak must be three putting every green because his swing is solid.
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