TNA Impact: The Worst TV Tapings in the History of Wrestling?

[@superskarmoryfan1100]

TNA- THURSDAY NIGHT ABUSE

[@KevinTheSkullAnderson]

My thoughts in a nutshell!

[@remixchild]

+superskarmoryfan1100 now TUESDAY NIGHT ABUSE

[@Gotham1230]

I hope Jason continues to watch TNA because I love his rants lol. I think a lot of fans watch WWE/TNA because of 2 things: Habit and Hope. As much as TNA has sucked lately (Just from what I hear, I don't watch lol), I still want them to succeed because history shows that competition is good for the wrestling business. Hell, any business for that matter. Competition brings out the best in any organization.

[@codyblane8344]

Problem is, TNA was never competition except for those brief moments in early 2010 on Monday night. I love Lucha Underground, and I hear New Japan had a strong PPV last month, but these shows are unknown to casual wrestling fans. WWE has zero competition in terms of wrestling. Their closest rivals would be UFC or Bellator or something like that.

[@bobjones3074]

Japanese wrestling is the best

[@ratedphenomstyles]

bigb860 To this day it's still like that. I watch RAW and TNA for HOPE. There's so much people saying so much negative things about TNA but I still watch because I want to see them succeed so badly! I think 2017 can be a year where Impact can make a big difference!! I HOPE things change for the better NEXT YEAR.

[@Gotham1230]

RatedPhenomStyles Yeah, I posted this comment ever 2 years ago and my feelings haven't changed. WWE needs strong competition in the form of another great wrestling product. That being said, I really don't watch TNA, except a KZbin clip here and there but I'm pretty confident their saving grace right now is obviously Broken Matt, and if he leaves or that character overstays its welcome (Which I think is very possible), then they're in trouble.

[@azapro911]

As bad as TNA has become, nothing will ever stoop beneath the appalling bottom of the barrel mess that was 2000 WCW.

[@DrSanto91]

I know right, wcw in 1999 and 2000 was a disaster.

[@theman13451]

It's funny looking back now. Bryan and vinny of wrestling observer, Dave Meltzer, Don Tony and solomonster all gave up on impact at the same time. And they all said these tapings were the worst of all time

[@zantara]

I lost faith in mainstream wrestling several years ago, but I keep up with the product through this podcast. It's fun listening to how awful the show is, but I also keep hoping Solomonster informs us that product has turned around so that someday I might actually want to tune in again someday.

[@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA]

I used to say I wish certain talent would go to tna. Now I wish Bobby Roode, James Storm, Aries,And Joe would leave tna for something better.

[@BECKERvaiMALMSTEEN66]

ROH will take them in a heart beat

[@ultimatebulldog2824]

BECKERvaiMALMSTEEN66 Yep Arries will come back and Samoa Joe. Daniels and Kazarian are already coming back at Best in the World.

[@hambalony20133]

aw shut up

[@bdr113080]

BECKERvaiMALMSTEEN66 as far as watching a show for just good wrestlings matches ROH is great.

[@codyblane8344]

Those guys are TNA lifers because WWE is packed with indie guys (Zayn, Owens, Itami, Balor). The only TNA guy to show up on a WWE show is Bully Ray at Rumble 2015.

[@jakal911]

"Spike has such shit programming, and hours of COPS reruns" LMAO

[@kiddkingpin]

Can't agree with the solomonster any other way

[@diesel101raw]

Easily Yes. TNGay is the worst shit ever. It's embarrassing. The Ace's & 8's killed it for me and no turning back and no recovery. It's sad to see New Jack was right all the way back in 2003(11 years ago) and said "They ain't never gonna make it". He stand 11 years later he stands correct.

[@ryankeefe1236]

stop the pain pull the plug it's over Dixie it's over

[@Hammerhead547]

Watching TNA's product is like watching a bunch of fools flapping about like a bunch of wet hens busily clucking and making lots of noise while not really doing anything.

[@HipHop4lyfeallday]

Lmbo I know right.

[@codyblane8344]

Jeremy Borash is a fucking IN RING WRESTLER now that they're on Destination America, LOL! He had a crazy ass dive to Tyrus the other week.

[@THERCWRSHOW]

Solomonster you bring up some good points man. Really hoping Slammiversary and these NYC shows do good. If you need a spare NYC ticket let me know as I've got an extra one. Can't make the show due to a change in my schedule this month.

[@midtiermagic]

TNA is a joke these nowadays. I haven't watched since AJ Styles. But after coming back to find out that they've lost half of their freakin roster with top stars included, it's just hilarious. Apparently, you don't make money in TNA unless your name is Kurt Angle or Jeff Hardy. What a fucking joke. Also heard that back in 20014, Angle wanted to go back to WWE, but HHH turned him down. I guess the money in TNA isn't what it used to be for that matter.

[@philiphunn194]

I think the reason WWE said no to Angle was that he wanted a different schedule to the one they wanted him to take (I forget which way round the schedules were, but they were incompatible either way), so the discussion fell apart.

[@midtiermagic]

+Philip Hunn Yeah, Angle wanted a part time contract, but HHH was only offering a full time contract to him. In a sense, it's still turning him down because HHH is pretty much saying he can do with or without him.

[@mrorange101]

Nearly everything TNA is doing is a mirror of WWE, there was even a swipe at Daniel Bryan when TNA described Eric Young on the way too the ring as the fighting champion.

[@tthomaselli2]

Stuart McCall- I couldn't agree, more. I also couldn't help but agree especially because of all of the "Can you notice the Eric Young/Daniel Bryan comparison!" comments I was reading on KZbin.

[@DioGoodguy]

Remember, 2011...when TNA was awesome with Roode as World Champion and when he was the better Champion compared to Punk? Yeah, that was 3 years ago... Fuck!

[@SteeleZack]

The booking reminds me of 1998-2000 WCW

[@EnforcerX71]

WCW in 1998 at least made a shitton of money.

[@josereyes1148]

they didnt

[@EnforcerX71]

Jose Reyes Yes it did, WCW made more money in 1998 than any other company had up to that point, it was only in 1999 that things started to crumble financially.

[@SirGeeeO]

Maybe Spike will cancel TNA once global force wrestling has a roster

[@codyblane8344]

They're on Destination America now & get maybe a 1/3 of their old ratings.

[@Gvvm15]

You know your show is fucking terrible when modern day WWE blows it out of the water.

[@TexarkanaBraveHeart7615]

I haven't watched TNA ,since January of this year. Jeff Jarrett walking away,told me All I needed to know. i'm sure the TNA guys, are calling Jeff Jarrett around the clock, Im sure even going to ROH is an upgrade for some, possibly some of the younger TNA guys,could be signed for NXT. WWE policy of not signing TNA guys like Cowboy James Storm and Bobby Roode, and Samoa Joe , WWE fucked up, by not signing AJ STYLES, he was a fucking free agent and WWE turned their fucking nose up at him.doesn't make any sense.

[@deedavis926]

When you said the announcers are like robots I laughed and it wasn't supposed to be funny

[@codyblane8344]

Update: SAMOA JOE HAS LEFT TNA!!! FEBRUARY 17 2015, PEACE

[@oneme63]

Do people even WATCH TNA cards and compare it to the actual WWE CARDS? WWE books the same matches on Smackdown and Raw back to back. You can't focus in on one gimmick and say the whole program sucks. Because you don't like the Menagerie, it's all bad? So then WWE must suck because I can zone in on MANY stupid gimmicks and judge the whole promotion based on it. I could say WWE sucks because that Hornswaggle Torito angle is not funny every taping for months straight. Fandango dance contests. Rusev constantly crushing either Xavier woods or Zack Ryder. Same angles over and over and over again. Cena being paired with everyone legit just to get him over. Sandow coming out in stupid get ups that aren't even funny and the fans don't even get the joke. Don't just diss TNA just because their guys don't sell merch. They don't have money to throw at everything like that. MVP, Lashley, and King aren't entertaining? They're a fake Evolution but the real Evolution look like ECW washups with the fucked up haircuts and Tshirts. Let's be for real.

[@walkingdude8248]

6:01 Funny stuff.

[@kierenbuckley370]

looking back on it now Solomonster should have just given up and stopped watching TNA now Impact Wrestling

[@ttv_cards8133]

I don't think these recent TNA tapings were the worst shows ever but they were all absolute train wrecks.

[@cjaquilino]

TNA's been making no sense. But, for me, that's at least occasionally entertaining in a So Bad, It's Good way. When RAW really sucks, that's enough that sometimes iMPACT is better, 'cause it's hilarious bad.

[@1tonyvalle]

C X Humor is a very subjective thing: I learned that from a movie critic in Austin who I've only recently come to speaking terms on his review website. We've gotten into arguments regarding a friend of his who's a comedian in the town over his style of jokes; he can listen to him for five hours and get a laugh all the time, while I honestly can't stand listening to him for five minutes because he's so unfunny to me. I've not watched TNA, but from what every podcast show on TVTrax have said, it seems to me it should be treated the same way as movies by Friedberg and Seltzer: by that I mean "Don't watch them to review them, Don't watch them to make fun of them.DON'T.WATCH.THEM."

[@cloudsofuncertainty]

Ever since Immortal, the only story TNA always consistently puts out is, "WHO HAS THE POWER AND CONTROL IN TNA???" Well, First Immortal had Power, then Aces and 8's, then Dixie Carter, now MVP who is fighting over power WITH DIXIE. the pain is ogrebearing

[@jarkkolaamanen1654]

Worst tv tapings in history? hell no! ROH during jim cornette's rule had multiple worse tv tapings.

[@TheSWFuniverse]

I hate TNA more over the last 4 years than I hated WCW in 2000.

[@hezekiahramirez6965]

Listen... I'm no fan of TNA but worst tapings ever? We've had Wrestlicious and WOW. WCW was pretty terrible at the end too. I went to a few of those. I've been to many WCW shows and though many were quite good toward the end there it was just so bad. It's just hard for me to believe these were the worst tapings ever, you know?

[@felicity4711]

I care about the who-has-the-power storyline, though I find both heel Dixie and MVP unpleasant. Totally agree that if they say someone is an authority figure then he should have authority, and so it makes no sense that MVP couldn’t just not agree to book a match. You ask who thought of the lesbian angle in an ironic tone, as if it were obvious. Bischoff? I thought he left already. That Menagerie/clown-phobia thing with the Jersey Shore guys was so ridiculous that it was kind of enjoyable. Pointless, yes, but hey, it’s not like I’m off saving the world when wrestling’s not on. It’s a pastime. It would be interesting to know what ideas were Russo’s while he was at TNA. I might have liked one or two of them, and not known it was him.

[@teamchb3143]

NOTHING and I mean NOTHING was worse than WCW in 2000.

[@teamchb3143]

Look, it's like I've said for a while: The ratings for TNA is decent for Spike TV. Taking everything into account, there is nothing wrong with TNA's ratings.......

[@teamchb3143]

There's no fucking way TNA is worse than WCW Thunder late 2000--no fucking way.

[@benng4376]

I check in with TNA once every six months or so. I DVRed the last few episodes and I'm sorry to say I just deleted the show once again. I still can't make it through an entire episode. I've officially lost hope.

[@thatdamnbradley]

SPIKE is the ONLY reason why TNA is still around.

[@DrJReefer]

What can I say about TNA. 74 paying customers in a 10,000 seat venue.

[@QSfcom]

I cant remember the last TNA episode I watched for over 1 or 2 matches . Those are usually ODB's , she's a better wrestler than 98% of the guys !

[@manlykscorpa]

Haha your ranting is so funny. You guys jus make me laugh every day

[@SkopsGameplaysHD]

It's been a LONG time since I've watched TNA, but I've always have had the impression its one of the worst things on television. There's always one peticular segment that seems to stand out in my mind when I think of TNA: The segment that I think it was Miss Tessmacher made the entire Knockouts Division wash cars in lingerie, because "shes a bitch".. It was one of the most pointless, stupid, and I hate to sound like a asswipe, intentionally degrading things I've ever seen on TV. Someone wrote that down, some one looked at it and said "Yeah, this'll work" and worse yet, the women obviously agreed to it.

[@grafspe807]

So many good wrestlers have come through this place and to many of them have had their best part of their careers wasted in here . We all want an alternative to WWE that can draw on a national level and have decent shows. WWE was at its best when it had competition

[@iCz-iGniTion]

7:42 WILLOOOW lol

[@PeapodEchoes]

An Aries/Joe double walk out would have been a pretty cool direction in which to go. It would have been a poor man's Summer of Punk but would have opened a neat set of options (as long as you don't pretend that you're reinventing the wheel with the angle). You could even hint at CM Punk's AWOL status and piggyback some of his heat ('Aries/Joes, you're not the first to walk out on the wrestling business' etc). Air a series of segments where Dixie is negotiating a return with them and move the characters in separate directions (Aries will come back to fight for the glory of the top championship in a face move; Joe is in it for more money in a heel move; something like that). Just a series of reasonably straightforward story arcs would do it. Trying to run heel vs heel with a million ever-changing factions doesn't really work. Keep it simple, stupid.

[@mnemrod]

The knockouts story line is the only one that makes any sense and Brittney is the best looking KO on the roster... I agree!!

[@codyblane8344]

I haven't seen Brittany in months. The only females I see on television right now are Awesome Kong & Madison Rayne.

[@TyrC4ever]

Major TNA fans need to realise that just because someone complains about TNA does not mean that WWE gets a free ride. Fans/wrestlers/Vince all need a real competition to help wrestling. So far TNA is not filling that need.

[@venger]

TNA needs to go to the UK for several months.

[@lucristianx]

ITS TRUE! ITS DAMN TRUE!

[@joshmoellman1967]

And Dynamite can’t come close to that number. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@CesarManiaX]

Scumbag IWC fan: Hates TNA, can't stop watching it.

[@MyNameIsNotBrad]

Dixie is not goin' through a table.... That is all.

[@livewithsin]

the problem is they've just overused the heel authority figure time and time again. First TNA overdid the faction idea and now they're overdoing the heel authority idea. Not to mention you see someone who was a mid carder in wwe being put in the main event, rather than having someone on the roster who is over. If they were going to put MVP in the main event at least build him up. They're creative is the problem, don't know who they fired or who they put in charge, but things need to change quickly, it's unwatchable at times.

[@brandonlewis6817]

And that my friends...sums up TNA for ya. Why do you think Jarrett left...AND IT WAS HIS COMPANY???

[@felicity4711]

Do what I do. Fast-forward through the parts you don’t like.

[@ricardomauricioaraya7625]

I got into TNA mid 2013, and even though I didn't like the stories very much I did enjoy the show. Then AJ left, and I stop watching for a while... wanted to get back to it but I found out that MVP was some kind of general manager and that there was some weird story line,so I decided not to go back. I finally did get back this year again, but there was the BDC... and then Joe leaves.... and I definitely stopped watching!!! I missed the best years, and I feel they will never get anywhere again!!!

[@ThunderKevin1009]

You want good tna go see the 2003-2004 years. No filler all killer.

[@garylynch18]

Haven't watched since Hulk left and the whole heel dixie shit came on, its a shame as i used to love tna at one stage.

[@mr_insult6192]

i haven't watched TNA in week's , took it off my DVR because I just don't care about it any more .

[@DarkReapersGrim1]

I don't have cable, so I didn't know Spike had shit shows (don't really care, to be honest), but Solomonster predicted Spike was going to keep TNA because of its shit lineup. Nope. A few days ago, TNA announced they signed with some obscure network called "Destination America" (because Spike no longer wanted them).

[@bobmcgee8577]

You know I have a fake wwe I made and one of the guys is Crazy St3ve but I made that character in 2012 like 2 years before tna

[@lizardC549]

i like those cops re-runs tho, better action than tna

[@HBKCommish]

I thought the Menagerie was a complete joke from the start. I think it was the second week they appeared when Kazarian had his match with one of them I think it was the stupid clown? I was very close to quitting on TNA at that moment. I'm still in the mindset of pulling the trigger on TNA. I'm very close to that breaking point. In addition, why does TNA seem to have good ideas, that they can't capitalize on?! The Menagerie for instance is a good idea on paper, but it's pulled off very poorly, and then they come across as jokes. Ace's and Eight's same thing.

[@frostystoneltd3770]

TNA was only good from 2002-2007...some good matches once and awhile but ya mostly garbage

[@xadamx94]

No, it was good between 2004-2005 aka no Russo

[@TheAlphaFury]

TNA's mistake was when they picked up Hogan and Bischoff, they tried too hard to be like the WWE. It doesn't work. TNA at one point had its own unique product and people watched. Now it's a big giant mess. People aren't interested. That's how ECW worked. It was a WWE alternative and people watched.

[@saTanTwin]

TNA is TNA. You cant expect much from it. Watch it dont watch it is the same but WWE damn it sucks these days... I have not watched WWE since RAW after WM and I intent to keep it that way until I hear something big out of the box happening on it. After all its a show for "9 year old kids" John Cena on Live RAW.

[@bem0920]

I don't like the production of TNA anymore. Looks very cheap. I can see who's going to dued with who from a mile away. EY sucks as a champ!!!! Just brutal! I would rather see Magnus as champ! Also get Jeff out of being Willow and have the matches hag finishes!!! No more DQ's!!!

[@codyblane8344]

SAMOA JOE HAS LEFT TNA!!!

[@thegooseman90]

I love Solomonster but he's a bit melodramatic with TNA.

[@kareemmclaughlin5056]

I've always said that Spike has shit programming, TNA needs Spike and Spike needs TNA it's a symbiotic relationship. Or at least throw ROH a deal..

[@TheJosephPrice]

I haven't watched TNA completely in months, but just listening to what's being described here, makes me cringe.

[@codyblane8344]

They have a much darker arena now in Destination America because only 20-30 people show up these days.

[@coreyzawaski]

its like who has control of a dog turd

[@jttheblaxican7255]

Its like wcw in 2001 but even worse

[@NATIONALCOMMUNISM666]

this like wcw an 2001 an wwe in 2001 an except for A few year has been ever since they share one thing among them they all started to either suck or become unwatchable after russo left.

[@amputatethesixthfinger2444]

How is saying don't watch TNA if you dont like it like saying leave this country if you don't like it??

[@jbisthemaster1]

Because it's a false dichotomy fallacy.

[@montesjose83]

Lol thank you for the reviews

[@togborne]

No, WWE Raw (in recent years) is the worst TV programme in the history of TV. Actually, anything WWE related is trash as far as I'm concerned. I'm sick of all the TNA bashing when WWE gives enough reason to bash them for a lifetime. TNA was putting on consistently good shows last year (2014). At least TNA tries to give you decent shows when the same cant be said for WWE.

[@togborne]

+David Briar Ok, can you give me some examples? However, it must be near impossible to come up with something totally original in pro wrestling as everything has been done before in one way or another. WWE do it as well it's just because they are the so called "big leagues" that they seem to get a pass. WWE are currently copying the Abyss/Joseph Park split personality angle with Kane and doing a far worse job of it than TNA. What really annoys me is that it has become almost fashionable to bash TNA for some unknown reason. WWE fans are so far in to the forest that they miss the tree. WWE programming and in particular monday night Raw is factually and clearly bad- that's not even a debate. WWE RAW= 3 hours of hot garbage. If you just use your eyes and ears you know that TNA is clearly the better product. Is it better than WCW and WWF in the late nineties? No but its the best we have in terms of mainstream wrestling today. TNA is better because they don't insult your intelligence, the in ring wrestling is better, there is a rotation of top guys (and it doesn't revolve around one guy like Cena), the promo's are better, guys are allowed to be themselves, the storylines make sense and there is continuity when it comes to this, they can bleed etc. The list goes on and on. When I watch WWE I see a lot of laziness and a slapped together and nonsensical product. WWE has a clueless, old, out of touch egomaniac running things. He plays on the stupidity of their fan base who will continue to watch no matter how bad the product gets. He knows this and that's why it doesn't change.

[@togborne]

+David Briar Dude, those examples that you give of TNA copying WWE are pretty weak/lame. Like I said, in pro wrestling everything has been done before in one way or another. It's the execution of these things that matters and in my opinion TNA are clearly better at that. Re- the examples you give of TNA insulting the fans intelligence, I would say they were more booking mistakes or whatever rather than insulting the fans intelligence. WWE insult your intelligence as a whole- there are too many examples to list off even in the most recent RAW. Bro, you can like what you like but I personally can't understand how you can defend what is in my opinion such a garbage product- to the point where I think you must either be insane, trolling or under the age of about 8. My point about it being mainstream- I didn't mean mainstream generally speaking I just meant when it comes to pro wrestling. TNA obviously doesn't have as many viewers, the production value that WWE has or the financial backing but what it comes down to at the end of the day is- am I entertained by TNA? Yes. Am I entertained by WWE? No. Everyone has heard of John Cena? I don't think so! Also , I would like to see Stephanie McMahon get power bombed of the top rope through a table like Dixie Carter did last year!

[@salamisumo2]

You're delusional. 😂 WWE is bad but TNA is the absolute bottom of the shit barrel.

[@woody72691]

idiot TNA fanboy

[@togborne]

I was debating whether to come out of retirement from arguing with WWE nut huggers and pukeiverse members. I laughed to myself when I read that last comment- it never ceases to amaze me how people can defend the current WWE product and try to claim it is better than TNA. The WWE is factually bad- the ratings back that up. They have lost about a million viewers in a year. That's a disgrace and Vince McMahon should be ashamed. For a company that has been around as long as they have to barely get 3 million viewers on a weekly basis is embarrassing. We are witnessing the slow death of the WWE, people and I'm loving every second of it. WWE is sinking to the bottom of the ocean (in the style of the John Cena sucks song) WWE sucks, WWE sucks, WWE sucks, WWE sucks...

[@balfrey1982]

I've been saying for a few years now these heel authority figure and power struggle storylines have come and gone and are just repetitive and overdone. The creative team and announce team need to be replaced.

[@zackbrown117]

ten years ago tna was amazing it was better then wwe at the time now its just horrible as soon as aj styles left i quit watching the only wrestling i watch is wwe and ROH

[@montesjose83]

Derrick bateman i mean ec3 should go back to wwe

[@NATIONALCOMMUNISM666]

tna did not start to suck this like wwe did not an wcw did not become unwatchable untill after russo left.

[@Iwillmakeyousqueal2]

these guys are buffoons.TNA will always be good.

[@markusbaldwin]

Solomonster be going in on tna lmao but he stands corrected ,that show was god awful

[@paulgreinke2586]

You kind of remind me of brian alvarez.

[@DanANewt]

Solomonster had to mention Daniel Bryan... Yawn

[@jokerisscary]

solomonster is funny!!

[@tubbymontana7090]

im subbing its true I wanna know whats going on tna without having to watch that shit show

[@BrrratOnEM]

Ha!, Xp

[@LooseCanonCreations]

Sounds to me like someone is sucking up to the TNA haters / WWE marks to increase their hit count. Every time I get an email from TVTrax and see you MIGHT have an interesting (or supremely ignorant) question, I make the mistake of actually trying to listen. Just stop dishing out this tripe and leave the podcast realm...

[@tubbymontana7090]

havent see the video just read the titles and yes I agree tna sucks it has wwe rejects and steals ideas only good thing they have are those hot chicks they should just do bikin matches we all know thats the only reason people go eatch tna is for the knockouts lmao tna sucks

[@CesarManiaX]

He's comparing not watching a show to leaving the country. He needs to get over himself and stop watching TNA if he hates it do much.

[@eddieguererro94]

TNA JUST SUCKS NOW A DAYS!