Family Annihilation or Leg Cramp? | Lawrence DeLisle Case Analysis

[@KRistyrose978]

Gosh, I remember when this happened. I was just a little kid and it happened not too far from where I live. It was sad and scary. And afterwards, whenever us kids were getting too wild in the car, my dad would start acting like he was getting a leg cramp.😬

[@duvessa2003]

Those were the days, when parents could use terror to control their kids. We have no leverage now.

[@CeceJianni]

That's terrible. I'm sorry your dad did that. I'm sure he didn't realize how bad that is.

[@vipconan_]

That's something my dad would have done too. Dark humor.

[@kinseybruno5920]

@ChelseyJianni chill

[@joanfedora7414]

Lol

[@vidaliasoleil2714]

"It may indicate someone who is despondent and pessimistic. This is not uncommon among people who are married." Great Grande quote.

[@mamacito1795]

😂😂 someone definitely had a fight with the wife before recording this

[@jimbobshambles]

Funny and yet very true statement 😅

[@jena.alexia]

😂😂😂

[@jacquelinekabugo-raderson1878]

😂😂

[@jena.alexia]

@@KA-in6sx It's a running joke. However, lots of married people become fed up with each other but stay together for the kids or because a divorce is a hassle and expensive.

[@TNT011gaming]

“It was one of those cars that had a steering wheel that turned both ways”😂😂😂😂 love that classic wit

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

The stress of the daily grind, the sacrifices made in a marriage and the pressure to financially provide for a family are undoubtedly challenging tasks that requires, among other things, courage. I can understand the despair but I can’t understand the murder. It’s hard to know what brings someone to commit the unimaginable. Thank you for another excellent analysis, Dr. Grande.❤

[@reneethorn145]

I agree. If he wanted to be 'free' why didn't he pack a bag and leave? Why did it have to include the death of his family?

[@crysp-mv9ss]

4 kids and a $31,000 yearly income....that'll do it

[@reneethorn145]

@@crysp-mv9ss if he didn't have a great income then why have four children? 🤔 maybe he didn't know about birth control.

[@crysp-mv9ss]

@@reneethorn145 ask him.

[@riseuplight]

​@@reneethorn145he was young

[@jamesbowman6925]

I feel bad for Delisle's mother. She had just lost her husband to suicide, then she lost all four of her grandchildren to murder in one shot, and her son went to prison for life for murder.

[@TheBOG3]

That poor woman. How awful.

[@marielleo4715]

You think that really??? Why did she do Nothing to save her children? She did rescue and saved herself, but she is guilty too. She must have tried to save somebody in car , the infant or another child . So ein egoist!!! , Must be punished too!!!!!!😬😬

[@TheBOG3]

@@marielleo4715 DeLisle's mother they feel sorry for. She wasn't in the car with him and his family when he drove his car into the river. You're referring to his wife, they weren't.

[@marielleo4715]

You didn't care good"! LAWRENCE AND SUSANNE WERE ABLE TO ESCAPE THROUG THE WIND SCHEIB""-- says Dr. Grande. She was there and she saved her kwn life,but not the kids!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Kristi__xo]

​@marielle o Jesus Christ, you guys really do not read. They are not talking about his wife, they are talking about his mother. It's pretty clear.

[@shellyharry8189]

seems to me that this was a failed murder/suicide whereas he failed at the suicide but succeeded at murder. what a horrific way for those poor children to die.

[@nixm9093]

It's astounding how many family annihilatora "fail" at suicide.

[@alex.tagspot]

This is so sad that his family thought they were just out for a fun family trip 😢 I can't imagine what the conversation was like in that car before the crash 😩 The biggest tragedy is that he's the one who survived and not his children 🙄 Thanks for another great video, Dr Grande! Forever will be one of my favorite TC KZbinrs 👑 As always, much love from WV 🤙 🏔️ 💙 💛

[@JerdMcLean]

Transdermal Celebration caused a slight mutation in the rift

[@amandachase7691]

​@T Raybern sick

[@andreasrau2161]

Good evening, Dr. Grande! I am forever impressed with the ingenuity of people discovering new methods of making birth control retro-active. I sincerely doubt that the cause of the accident was a leg cramp. And as for married people normally feeling pessimistic, well, the first hundred years are always the hardest. Thanks for sharing.

[@SirenaSpades]

Retroactive birth control, I see what you did there!

[@carriefawcett9990]

"Retroactive birth control" 😮that's ingenious 😂 Sad, but true

[@Koozomec]

Goes hand to hand with preventive obituary !

[@brucemunro7499]

Yeah he’s a real wordsmith alright. Fart.

[@rw7975]

"I'm really impressed by child killers" Stay out of jail Andreas

[@loiskondo8349]

It’s to bad people don’t know when to ask for help. Thanks Dr. Grande for another fascinating video.

[@kastynm.9004]

Even worse when people ask for help & dont get it.... the systems fucked so even if he wouldve asked he probably wouldn't have gotten it.

[@HemiChrysler]

_too_

[@aarondavis8943]

He didn't want help. He wanted to be "free". This is a cold-blooded killer, not someone who cracked under mental strain. He cased out the street multiple times.

[@ceilconstante640]

He probably wouldn't have qualified with his income and didn't have a father or siblings.

[@pearcey1113]

There was zero help back in them days. Nobody ever talked about depression anxiety,, you were either fat skinny tall or short I just turned 50 years old and think about doing everyday since I’ve been homeless living in a 28 year old Toyota van

[@MagicMarty90]

I can't imagine what it was like for those 4 innocent kids watching their parents leave the vehicle while the water started rushing in.

[@carolann3249]

So awfully tragic

[@tracyking5945]

Lawrence said he was tired of his life being the same thing day in and day out. Even going so far as to say he wanted to blow up everything in his past, but Dr. Grande aptly added, “I’m pretty sure he could have blown up his present and future as well.” Figuratively speaking, Dr. Grande is right. Lawrence was tired of living his life with free choice, so now he will die in prison, a place with no choice but to live a repetitive existence. Great analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️👍👏🌵💜

[@nickyblue4866]

Well now his life is going to be even more the same day in and day out.... everyday....

[@charliechurch5004]

​@@nickyblue4866 yep that was the point

[@TheBOG3]

He thought he'd get away with it and that his life would no longer be like 'Groundhog Day.' The joke's on him.

[@Altered4n892t]

😢 those poor children

[@molly18239]

this station wagon had 5 confirmed kills...definitely gives Christine a run for her money!

[@defundhollywood3259]

It's like Maximum Overdrive all over again 😂

[@charliechurch5004]

I don't find any of this funny. There are dead children here!!!

[@tonipaola1764]

If anyone watched the Netflix doc, or listened to grande said, it was STILL capable of committing more murder as the water trip hadn't killed it either. Unreal. What a tragedy.

[@KatSpade1018]

The O.G. of psychological analysis, Dr. G! Thank you! You said everything that caught my attention. Especially rubbing his leg as a set up for the event. He didn't have a leg cramp, purposely steering between the poles to go into the water, taking that route. They went there the day before because he was scoping it out to see what he could do. Then he got the layout and mental picture in his head so the next night he could just make his turn and go barreling down the road to his mark between the poles and into the water. He prob intended for his wife to survive and the kids to drown and she would corroborate the leg cramp and having to pull his foot off the gas and he fig it would be ruled a tragic accident and he and his wife would live happily ( in his mind ) ever after, just the two of them. That's exactly what happened too. Except that the police didn't buy his story. What surprises me is the fact that the wife knew that he had told police he intentionally accelerated quickly and was going to slam on the brakes at the last minute to scare her but she still testified on his behalf. I mean, doing that would have terrified the children. Plus, jarring them around like that. They could have been badly hurt and who the heck tries to terrify their wife that their car is gonna wreck with their babies inside. He's twisted! You can see the b.s. in that story. Conveniently, at the time he decides to terrify her, with the brakes being an integral part of the scare, they just happen to not work and simultaneously the accelerator sticks. How can she not see that he premeditated the murder of their children. Clearly I do agree with you Dr. G. I feel that he is guilty of premeditated first degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt. Thx Dr. Grande! ❤ Oh, one last thing... Did either one of them even attempt to save any of their children at all?? Just asking because they both lived and between the two of them they couldn't get even one of their children out? Where were they when police got to the scene because you couldn't force me out of the water if my babies were trapped in a sinking car. Especially without emergency crews there yet trying to help. Just wondering.

[@amandachase7691]

I always wondered that too. I remember this being on the news when it happened. I was 12. Even then I thought why didn't they each grab a child by the arm. I wouldn't swim to the top without my kids. In a reenactment of the crime they said the baby Emily was sitting in the front in her car seat between both parents. How do you not save one child between two adults. Then they swam to the top and were rescued by a boat and just hugged each other. I would have been screaming that my babies are down there and trying to get to them.

[@vipconan_]

And back then they probably weren't wearing seat belts. They should have been even easier to get out of the car.

[@crittercrossing2913]

You are classically clever with your critiquing comments. Thank - you!

[@Flamsterette]

This video title is intriguing. Thank you for the upload, Dr. Grande. It's too bad he didn't accept or ask for help.

[@jpbrown6797]

what are the odds the cactus on his right will sprout ? I' m not diagnosing cacti here, just spectulating on various possibilities. If it did sprout, would itbe named cactoblastus grandii ?

[@cleopatra444]

😂

[@TT-cj3ek]

Well done , in Grande keeping of the parlor pun he so well dishes out.

[@paulperry7091]

I think that one on his right is a cacti ferroskeleonti. These rarely bloom, but if overwatered will turn an attractive rust color.

[@justhereforagoodtime88]

"Suzanne divorced Lawrence....probably because of the murder part." Yup, that'll do it.

[@ceeleegee825]

The vehicle was equipped with a steering wheel that would turn either way......🤣

[@trace_you6337]

I lived right down the street off of Biddle and North Dr. Wyandotte Mi. On that day I was working at Weyand s Fisheries on Biddle literally 2 blocks away during the incident. It was bone chilling when we all learned what happened that fateful day. Could not understand or comprehend why he did that 😢

[@susanbettis1177]

I think it was an accident. Watch the Confession Tapes on NF

[@toddprater14]

Wyandotte represent👍… read my comment up above.. me and my buddy Rick coming back from Monroe seen footage through a news van window tgat was edited for viewing. Never will forget

[@trace_you6337]

@@toddprater14 I will never forget that day either. Like I said I was right there 2 blocks away when he drove his car into the water. We ran out to see what the commotion was . A few days after they put up a barrier and blocked that part off.

[@trace_you6337]

@@susanbettis1177 I didn't know it was on Netflix ( I'm assuming that's what you mean) however I do not believe it was accidental. Eureka rd ends at Biddle. He accelerated going down Eureka straight into the water. I believe he knew what he was about to do. I also believe he wanted to drown his wife but she was able to get out.

[@trace_you6337]

I grew up in Taylor Michigan. Then moved to Wyandotte in 86. I wonder where he lived in Taylor before the incident happened 😔

[@ghadamamdouheskarous]

Never talk to the police without a lawyer

[@NvrDieNvrSurrender]

I get almost debilitating cramps in my legs, on & off for over a decade. So bad that it takes my breath away, it can take a long time for it to subside & sometimes they're so intense that my muscles are sore for days afterwards. When I was pregnant, the leg cramps would be so bad that my ex would have to yard me off the bed by my leg just to help my stand up fast enough to try to walk it off. With all that said, even when I get leg cramps while driving, I have never ever had it impair my driving. I also have a narcissistic mother who used to regularly threaten to crash the van she was driving into a wall or barrier while we were passengers. It was way too normal to make peace with the fact we might meet our maker while she careened out of control. Thankfully she was a wuss when it came to pain. So glad I'm estranged from that woman now.

[@NvrDieNvrSurrender]

L

[@redemptionhappens7725]

I had a narcissist father who pulled the same thing. So glad he’s dead. One of the best days of my life.

[@evelynwaugh4053]

The cramps might be from lack of calcium.

[@NvrDieNvrSurrender]

@@evelynwaugh4053 it very well could be, I am more susceptible to them when I'm fatigued & don't have enough fluids and/or electrolytes. However, when I workout strenuously or when I was pregnant, it didn't matter how good I was eating or supplementing, nothing worked. Except fast release Tylenol coupled with heat compresses or hot showers...

[@evelynwaugh4053]

@@NvrDieNvrSurrender I've always gotten brutal charlie horses (sudden onset of muscle knots in calf) when I increase my physical activity level too quickly, like when training. They used to wake me up at night when I moved a leg during sleep. I'm lactose intolerant, so calcium is an issue, as it often is during pregnancy. But I think you're correct that it can be electrolytes in general.

[@toddprater14]

I’m from Wyandotte, mi… i remember when this happened … we used to go south to monroe to drink .. we were cominghome outta monroe back to Wyandotte via Jefferson road north… we see all these cops and ambulance lights… we get out at McDonald’s and walk over to field when all these camera vans are .. this camera man comes flying into the van and we go look into the back windows . He puts in a video tape and we see them pulling kids body’s out of the water,a couple upside down by feet.. never will forget this ..we got ushered away by cops just after seeing this… was the “ biggest story of our town” we were just outta high school about a year.

[@Andreamom001]

I used to live in Wyandotte as a kid. It’s not “dote” or “dough” but “dot” rhymes with “spot.” Why-un-dot.

[@TheBOG3]

Down river.

[@betsylaughlin8652]

Thanks 4 the lesson!

[@RobinaRavencrow]

Perks of driving with a manual transmission: you could technically still end up in a river, but it would be much more difficult to accomplish. For example, if the accelerator became stuck somehow, both the driver and the front-seat passenger could throw the car out of gear by pulling the gearshift. Plus the driver could not accelerate indefinitely without clutching and shifting gears.

[@carlholland3819]

downside of a manual, you end up with twice as many leg cramps and are twice as likely to drive into the river

[@RobinaRavencrow]

@@carlholland3819 not if you're used to it 😉

[@renee1961]

He couldn't use his left leg to hit the brake???

[@glow1815]

He confessed he didn't mean to hurt his babies

[@rebecca4253]

That's what I thought.

[@Andreamom001]

He didn’t want to. He doesn’t know why. My guess is he didn’t want to because that would make it harder to kill his family.

[@carlholland3819]

the left leg had sympathy pains

[@socore4659]

I had a 1967 ford fairlane and once the engine mount broke. I drove it like that for a few weeks. If i pushed the accelerator too far when starting from a stop, the accelerator would get pulled to the floor as the engine shifted, pulling the linkage until we got up to a certain speed and the torque on the engine decreased. But i don't really think that is what happened here. Seems like he wanted to go into the river

[@Dehsera]

That leg cramp must have been awfully painful for him to want to intentionally kill his children

[@defundhollywood3259]

I've had some pretty bad leg cramps. I've thought about chopping my own leg off but not killing anyone else. I was more concerned with the searing pain in my leg.

[@nickyblue4866]

Mighty sore leg indeed

[@evelynwaugh4053]

A `charlie horse' is excruciating and incapacitating.

[@mrazik131]

@@evelynwaugh4053 magnesiu citrate would help

[@broeheemed32]

I would guess that it was the terminal pressure to have to support a do-nothing wife that was only interested in shopping and breeding. She knew his income couldn't support all those kids but she kept having them anyway, then pressured him for a "big house" and all the trappings. On the day this happened, she wanted "new furniture for the children".... as if little kids cared about designer furniture.

[@MyChilepepper]

Thank you Dr Grande. Looking forward to your comments on Terry Sanderson vs Gwaneth Paltrow ski crash case.

[@janedmunds4218]

Yes!

[@rayross997]

Please consider the Circleville Letters case? Thanks Dr.Grande.

[@kellykane7586]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: It's AWESOME that doc breaks down Guilt in Actuality and Guilt Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. He even went a step further here and pointed out that not only did the judge have second thoughts...but Dr. G. himself did not feel like this guy got a fair trial. Many ppl may be of the opinion that 4children are dead and so what does it matter. But this is 1 of the Main principles our nation was founded upon AND certainly is a defining characteristic of a civilized society.

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Good evening Dr Grande, great analysis. Love your dry humor.

[@greendragon4058]

As somebody who builds cars and works on them, this guy is very suspect. Decided to take his family out but couldn't take it on life out, hope he's reminded of the coward that he is rest of his life. Another great video sir Yeah he may have had leg cramps but if he'd gotten out of the car he would have worked them all out. Sticky throttle cables too bad we didn't have the car yeah? Maybe 1 and hundreds thousands have to happen

[@suzf5045]

🌵🌵Hi, Dr. Grande!🌵I look forward to watching your case analyses each day. You are truly the best. Thank you for all you do 🙏🏻

[@Thecommander248]

Okay, but my question is, if he intended to die, why did he escape the vehicle instead of "going down with the ship"?

[@Wazupiseeyou]

He regretted his decision.

[@Thecommander248]

@@Wazupiseeyou at the point my 4 kids were drowning and I already intended to die, I probably would've just let the Lake take me. Otherwise, why didn't he try to save his kids if he did it on purpose and he regretted it? Maybe he was just a terrible swimmer. It's just odd because I know that river. It's very, very slow. There had to be plenty of time to pull the kids out if it traveled 90 feet before sinking. I feel that the deaths of the kids could've been prevented in some way had someone with skill and knowledge been on hand, but, sadly, it seems like no one like that was around. Honestly, I want to see the evidence and the video footage for myself.

[@TheBOG3]

​@@Thecommander248 You'd think one or both of the parents could've rescued at least one or two of the four kids, especially if they both could swim. Each grab a kid and swim.

[@carlholland3819]

@@Thecommander248 im also surprised aqua man wasnt on hand

[@Thecommander248]

@@TheBOG3 seems a bit ridiculous, the car must've flipped.

[@christinekordyjaka2113]

Oh my goodness Dr Grande!!! Love your work, thank you so much. Christine from Canada

[@jamesoncross7494]

How could he live with himself, killing all 4 of his children, even if it was a mistake? He is a monster in my book. He kills his whole family in sits in jail the rest of his life, rather than raise his kids? WOW

[@JD-cw4qg]

Love your channel Dr Grande, always look forward to your analysis of these horrendous and heartbreaking cases. 4 very young lives lost , just so sad.

[@birdworldist]

Yess king go offf

[@Ellieangel777]

That made me lol 😂😂😂

[@privard89]

The cactus King!!! 🌵

[@birdworldist]

@@privard89 yusss 🌵 👑

[@darktower0603]

I find myself looking forward to your comment on a daily basis! 😅 It's become part of the show!

[@birdworldist]

@@darktower0603 yess 🙌 🤠💯

[@Tropicalfrooploops]

Late night, I listen to these to ease me to sleep.

[@shitmandood]

What I do is record his voice and then overlay it with ambient music. 😂nah I’m kidding, but it’s possible

[@cleopatra444]

i thought i was the only one , if it weren t for the comercials id leave his videos playing while i drift to sleep lol

[@roxannespahr2804]

Same here..I wake up around 1am my time, then I peacefully fall back asleep after listening to his calming voice. ❤️

[@AG-ni8jm]

Hey Dr Grande. Could you take a look at the case of Fred and Rose West?

[@charliechurch5004]

oOoOO they are monsters 😳

[@SelfishFew]

Why do unhappy people have to kill or attempt to kill their families? Why not just themselves? Or here's an even better idea: get divorced!

[@carlholland3819]

its not all unhappy people, its only a selfish few

[@mimidebrose]

Love your channel 😊❤😊

[@Bebecat477]

I can understand his stress and feelings of hopelessness. It is a tragedy the children were the ones to pay the price. I will never understand why people do this to themselves, having children, or having multiple children, when the financial and emotional strain is overwhelming.

[@TheBOG3]

You'd think they'd stop after a couple of kids. The average wasn't more than 2.5 back then. Nowadays it's below replacement level at 1.8

[@cottontails9003]

Thank you Dr Grande. Thank you for the great content you upload, it always makes my day.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Hi friend. Had a good day with Mum. Hope your evening was good, with rest. Signing off here soon, thanks again for your kindness & support, hugs... 💝🧡💝🧡🙌💤😴🦋⚘️🌃🛏xoxo💜💜

[@cottontails9003]

@@zenawarrior7442 Thank you my beautiful friend .So pleased about your visit with your mum. I just woke up to the phone ringing, was having a good nap😂😴😚👣❤💙💙💙💙💔🌷🌸🌹🍀✉🎇

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@cottontails9003 Thanks💛💛 💓💓👭Oh darn a good nap is great😁. Hope you can go back & rest! Goodnight 💙💙💤🙌🌼🫖🕰🌜

[@mikeballard8404]

Why didn't the accelerator on my 1977 Oldsmobile Cutlass Salon stick when I was driving to St Mary's Catholic Church to get married in 1979?

[@makepeace234]

Another fascinating analysis! Wonder if the good doctor would consider analyzing the relationship between the late, great Joan Crawford and her daughter Christina?

[@TheBOG3]

Yes! Analyze 'Mommie Dearest' and Christina Crawford, please. 🧠

[@belladamex767]

Great idea for a vid, I'm surprised he hasn't done it...

[@rebecca4253]

Thank you Dr. Grande👍👍👍good point "guilty but not a fair trial "

[@ceilconstante640]

Where he grew up, lived and worked were lower income/ lower education areas. They should have practiced family planning. I think he was depressed and realized he was never going to get ahead. His whole existence was working long hours and financially supporting a family. Taylor housewives weren't known for homemaking skills. We had a mid 70's Ford station wagon and pulled a Colman pop-up camper all over the USA. They were known to be safe family cars.

[@TheBOG3]

Most people work long hours whether they have a family or not. Everyone complains that they're under paid and that their lives are like the movie 'Groundhog Day,' even upper middle class people do. Maybe very wealthy people don't, but they probably complain about something.

[@carlholland3819]

@@TheBOG3 ya they complain about us peasants

[@carlholland3819]

i agree, poor people shouldnt have babies. also ugly people

[@ZYX84]

Good Evening Dr.Grand🧠e. I always look forward to your stories and seeing you. 🎩💫💜💫💜💫💜💫💜 💫 Best wishes & sending good thoughts to you & your family. 💫

[@renee1961]

He blamed a "leg cramp"???!!! I don't believe it!

[@reneethorn145]

I would rather die trying to get my kids out of a sinking car than live with the guilt of surviving.

[@1SavageQueen89]

“Maybe they were trying to freeze out the split personality demon” 🤣🤣😂😂🤣 Omg, I am full on cackling! This is my new favorite quote. How do you say this stuff with a straight face Dr.Grande?! You are hilarious! 😊

[@barbieblue3336]

People with "demons inside of themselves" always seem to hurt others

[@carlholland3819]

its not their fault, the demon made them do it

[@angelapitts2123]

I think a parents responsibility is to protect their kids no matter what. If he was unhappy he could have gotten a divorce. I know it’s easier said than done but in no way should kids be punished. So sad. If I was an accident, shouldn’t he had jumped at trying to rescue his drowning kids? That’s the part that bothers me.

[@NC-ck5oj]

I think trying to rationalize his thinking in a case like this is impossible.

[@carlholland3819]

divorce is a great idea, then he can pay for 2 households even though he could barely afford 1

[@dissidentfairy4264]

I think he married too young, had too many children too soon combined with heavy debt and boredom. He may have been depressed and suicidal. So he decided to end it in a moment of irrationality but when the car hit the water his desire to live kicked in so he did. He's guilty of killing his children.

[@nadinewhite993]

How horrific for those poor children.

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Always interesting. Again outstanding humor Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲

[@kimberlys.7097]

His father ended his life in the same car and his mom gifted it to him. Im pretty sure he was psychology messed up and grieving

[@denisew3631]

This type of thing makes my blood boil. If you are miserable don't take it out on innocent people.

[@kristaw2686]

I'm not trying to judge the mom, but I'm gonna die drowning trying to save my kids from a sinking car. I've never understood how adults survive something like this while their kids die.

[@linisin2083]

Dead ass

[@betsylaughlin8652]

You have absolutely no idea how you’d react. I’m a swim teacher. People won’t willingly drown themselves. Just stop.

[@heavenrains2432]

Great analysis Dr Grande 👍🏻

[@portcitypersona]

Thank you for another infotaining presentation. You manage to use humor in it's right place, even though it was a tragic event. What about the wordplay? I hope you still do that. Being a poet and general word-nerd, I enjoy your alliteration. Thanks again from New Brunswick, Canada.🌵

[@pageribe2399]

I think it's also possible that he got a leg cramp that may have caused him to stomp the accelerator momentarily, at which time he realized he could grab the opportunity to rid himself of some of his baggage so he followed through, thinking that he could expand the leg cramp-accelerator story to explain the entire event. And, get off. Or, maybe, as bizarre as it was, there was a confluence of improbable events that became a tragedy. Who knows!

[@tinawindham6958]

I’ve had leg cramps myself but I’d probably steer away from the river and crash head on into whatever ,killing myself and maybe not my kids.,

[@ferguson8143]

​@@tinawindham6958 or put the vehicle in neutral

[@jamesbowman6925]

No, he had made the decision before he made that left turn.

[@timdoerksen9893]

Just wanted to add comment below. When the pedal stuck the car went full throttle. It took me about a quarter mile to get it under control & shut down. I was white as a sheet when i walked in & told my dad what happened.

[@jairogaitanjr]

The Ford shade was epic

[@irenegriffin3050]

I live in Michigan, right near Detroit but I don't remember this story! What a sad and tragic story. RIP to his children. 😢

[@commiekillahjay2525]

I had an experience with an 2002 Nissan Altima. I did have the accelerator get stuck to the floor for a few moments and had to push the brake with both feet for the car to stop. That was awfully scary. It only happened one time thank god.

[@Rachelief]

I always love listening to your analysis before bed. Such a calming way to end a stressful day and wind down. I haven’t finished this yet, but I wanted to thank you for these, as always. ❤

[@peejay8519]

Listening about other people's tragedies helps you whine down? You need to be analyzed yourself, or we may be listening to your case file next.

[@jkjives1786]

He has a calming voice.

[@teresaperez5995]

Hi.Dr. Grande! Would love to hear your thoughts regarding the Gwyneth Paltrow case. Thx ☺️

[@JeremyHelm]

Insert factor or hello fresh ad here 14:52 - great time for a segue

[@tinawindham6958]

The thought of my kids drowning would make me eat a few bottles of aspirin, Benadryl, Valium, and a fentanyl chaser . Glad they didn’t have a dog

[@AliValentine143]

13:23 😂 "a real testament to the quality of 1970 station wagon."

[@911dips5]

Those poor children

[@missqjulie]

Why bipolar and borderline personality disorders get married and have kids I have no idea.

[@svenskanorsk]

💯

[@maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353]

42 minutes in and just in time for bed! Love to all from the Poconos, PA

[@vipconan_]

"It was one of those steering wheels that turns right and left". Classic Doctor Grande.

[@TribalCashAA]

I do not drive, but when I did I used to always check the amount of space to the right of the gas pedal in case my leg locked up. Any person that gets severe leg cramps knows what happened in this case. Severe leg cramps are not little 'charlie horse cramps. Your leg becomes totally locked and you get a very strong awareness of the locked muscle, not really pain but intense awareness, which supersedes anything else that might be on your mind. My opinion is that it has something to do with calcium, but whatever it is the locked muscles are easily reproducible and observable which should be tested with this individual. Give him a lot of calcium for one week, then no calcium the next week, and he will spend at least a few days incapacitated. Edit to add A funny story. Years ago I was driving a cab. At some point another driver drove up beside my cab and said 'call the police, you tripped an alarm' or something like that. The cab had an alarm system that was triggered by a small button to the right of the gas pedal. When I had straightened my leg a short while before I moved my right leg to the right of the pedal and tripped the alarm. The company I leased the can from never told me about the alarm but that incident surely generated some paperwork around roughly the late 90s or early 2000s. In fact if you go through the records of cab companies that have that kind of alarm you will probably find there are a number of people with that problem. I know exactly how he moved after his leg locked up, he moved his backside up and tried to straighten his leg, but if he was not used to that issue he would have had to almost stand up to get his foot off the gas. And there is a sort of panicky sensation that prevents a person from bending/contracting the leg so that is not an easy option regardless what people think. One more edit Dr Grande recites items from the interrogation without providing the actual video of the interrogation. I'm sure Dr Grande understands his mistake but it should be pointed out for others. A person can watch the Melissa Lucio interrogation, for example, which is on KZbin, or study any of thousands of other similar ones which are described by people present or audio recorded. Police generally avoid video taping interrogations for just that reason since if you don't let people see how you get the suspect to say something you can pretty much get anybody to confess to anything. Brown v. Mississippi, (1936) made getting confessions by torture illegal in the U.S. but there are many other psychological techniques, such as the Reid technique, which reliably get confessions regardless of guilt or innocence.

[@carlholland3819]

whats a cab?

[@1234singingismylife]

They would never have gotten me out of the water without my children!

[@lonnyhollywood]

please can you do something on the Sing family murders in Brisbane Australia by Max Sica no one has done anything on them and they are very very “ interesting” but not got any information

[@zenawarrior7442]

The old blank mind/demon/foot stuck excuses. How tragic for those poor children. Hilarious marriage quip & good points again. Thanks Dr G😊🧡🧡

[@PowuhToSeven]

I feel like you just wrapped up an old episode with Dr. Grande as a special guest that helped you track this guy down

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@PowuhToSeven 😁😎

[@cottontails9003]

Great reply as always . Am so pleased you had a good time with your mum. Heaps of hugs coming to both of you. ×♡×♡×♡×♡×♡×

[@Menstral]

No, no, no. These were his own defective genes and he eliminated them

[@cottontails9003]

@@Menstral Some genes can be hereditary passed down to the following generally generations.

[@sharonpowell3656]

I always hear stories like this, or about house fires where the adults get out, but the children don't. I don't know if it's the mother in me, but if my children didn't survive, would I want to? I don’t think he mentioned it, but did anybody try to go back for the children? I don’t want to blame the wife, but if my husband drove us into the river, I'm not sure I would be as forgiving.

[@carlholland3819]

he shouldve asked for directions

[@LioraLand1]

Leg cramps are from either low potassium or low magnesium. Keeping a little bottle of potassium iodide and magnesium Threonate capsules can be very helpful, I know!

[@sondragramse1770]

Mine are caused from dehydration during the night.

[@lindapiet2275]

Unbelievable! Thank you once more!❤

[@chynnhowe]

Ngl the title of this video immediately hooked me

[@3_up_moon]

Can you cover the case of the man who drove his two small children out into the Outback and abandoned them there? (They survived, if I'm remembering correctly)

[@TheBOG3]

OMG! What year or decade did that happen? I never heard of that.

[@manewland1]

A very sad (and frustrating) story; thanks as always, Dr. Grande.

[@rdwwdr3520]

The rubbing of his leg was likely part of the ruse

[@TheJohnbjunior]

He's a auto service manager and he can't control a car at 40mph?

[@LynnE507]

Thank You Dr. Grande. ❤🌵

[@dee_305]

Hey Dr Grande, weird request, but could analyze and give your opinion on the KZbin video titled "14 year old Parker stands up for his rights"? It's a very interesting situation regarding a custody dispute and I'd love to hear your speculations 😊

[@TheBOG3]

I watched a few of those videos about Parker. Dr. Grande should do an analysis on Parker and his family. That would be interesting.

[@gcham1209]

Semi late night grande time! 1105pm here now

[@cmthomas07]

I remember when this happened, I still live Downriver.

[@susanmctavish8347]

Hi Dr. grande. This is a different subject comment. I’d love to hear your analysis of Big and Little Edie …the cousin and aunt of Jackie Kennedy. They were the subjects in the documentary ‘ Grey Gardens’. It astounded me to learn about them…as they went from privilege and wealth to poverty and a home that deteriorated all around them. I’m curious whether they had personality disorders and why they were unable to help themselves more. They also seemed to have been trapped in a fantasy world of ‘what if’s’. Thank you

[@lisa1340]

Laughed out loud at the marriage quote!!!

[@bweaver760]

Your comment about how the 70’s ford was still able to kill people floating in a river made me crack up!!! The lack of canned laughter makes your humor hilarious!😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@justnoted2995]

"....he probably was despondent and pessimistic; this is not uncommon among people who are married..." hehehe, Dr. Grande you are a peach :)

[@Johnniethesportsguy]

Right where he drove his family into the Detroit River me and a friend were sitting in that very spot about 45 minutes before he did it, throwing rocks into the Detroit river. Soon as we heard this happened, my friend, and I were both in total shock because we could have a very easily been sitting there when he come barreling through. I was raised in the town of Wyandotte where this happened. And it absolutely rocked our little town, because nothing like this happens there. The barrier that he went through to hit the water was in all honesty insane. When you went down Eureka, the only thing that stopped you from driving into the Detroit river, and what he actually blasted through wasn’t any kind of official guard rails. It was three railroad ties Buried down in the dirt, I don’t know how many feet deep, but the three railroad ties stood about 3 feet out of the ground. If you know anything about railroad ties, they are just planks of wood about a half a foot all the way around. Not strong at all, and if you stood there and kicked long enough and we’re strong enough I’m sure you could break one in half. Three of those about 2 feet apart is what was supposed to “Stop” someone from driving into the Detroit river. He didn’t drive between them as you stated in your video, because they weren’t far enough apart. He completely blasted right through them. Most people thought he was guilty from the next day after it happened. But what really hurt him and his wife was a couple days later they agreed to do a live interview on the news, and clearly they were stoned on something, whether it be prescription drugs, or illegal drugs I don’t know because I was only 13. But it was clear to see they were on something, and that killed them with the public. Wyandotte didn’t really have a dive team as is mentioned in a lot of these videos. Mostly when it happened it was in uniform police officers diving into the river and swimming down and trying to get these kids out. we are a small towel, so we all know who the cops were that bravely dived down. It really affected a lot of them for the rest of their careers.

[@lynettewilson7396]

Downriver is located in Taylor Michigan not Detroit

[@dennetoregon]

That station wagon is a tank