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Wife Shoots Husband Who She Claims was a Bear | Mark and Mary Beth Harshbarger Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

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@shuswapbcoutdoors8652
@shuswapbcoutdoors8652 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande did not mention one of the most important aspects to bear hunting that adds weight to support a conviction . . . The hunter must always watch the bear for a long enough time period so he/she is 100% confident that the bear is not a sow with a cub or cubs following along behind her. Every bear hunter knows this and it is the law.
@rubyoro0
@rubyoro0 Жыл бұрын
The judge must have not known this.
@ReaperCH90
@ReaperCH90 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, that is the final nail.
@markusk2289
@markusk2289 Жыл бұрын
Also: why shoot before you are sure unless the „bear“ is attacking and there is immediate danger?
@MartineH1
@MartineH1 Жыл бұрын
Oh, just this one would be enough to convict her. Add to it the life insurance aspect and his brother moving in and we have it very clear that it was murder.
@Straightjacket154
@Straightjacket154 Жыл бұрын
Who cares about the bear law, ain’t no fucking way in her she confused him for a bear 25 min after sunset. She planned this she should rot in jail.
@mastaofkush
@mastaofkush Жыл бұрын
"I think that one could argue that very few bears wear navy blue coveralls. Usually, people who wear coveralls have physically demanding jobs, and most bears are unemployed." The deadpan, serious tone during that delivery made this one of the funniest things I've ever heard. After watching many of your videos and gaining some grasp of your sense of humor, I was still pleasantly surprised that you managed to make this so funny. You are a gem. Your success is well-deserved.
@geraldinenolan6312
@geraldinenolan6312 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Your comment made me laugh!! And so true! This story is horrific... but hilarious. Sad she got away with it. Karma will come.... oh yeah it did a bit... via the babysitter!
@4lottisintellect
@4lottisintellect 7 ай бұрын
So very true! I find myself getting addicted to Dr. Grande's videos😂❤❤
@darktower0603
@darktower0603 Жыл бұрын
Raising the life insurance so soon before the shooting and hooking up with Barry so soon after makes me think murder.
@jimcronin2043
@jimcronin2043 Жыл бұрын
I agree that it arouses suspicion but it doesn't satisfy the threshold of beyond a reasonable doubt.
@alucard-kj4fu
@alucard-kj4fu Жыл бұрын
I agree. The nutcase got away with it. My brother has bipolar and I would never sleep under the same roof as him. One of the most angry people I've ever known and for the smallest of things.
@captainamerica6525
@captainamerica6525 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bunnybgood411
@bunnybgood411 Жыл бұрын
What kind of a man falls for a creature like her?
@ryanlewis1545
@ryanlewis1545 Жыл бұрын
He farted it.
@sergeipohkerova7211
@sergeipohkerova7211 Жыл бұрын
It's possible to be mistaken for animals, my neighbor says his wife looks like a damned wildebeest after being married since 1989, and before that she was a Gazelle, but then he says in her defense, he himself was once a strong young buck and now he is a dumpy old walrus.
@mrsh2167
@mrsh2167 Жыл бұрын
thou are so funny
@farmcat3198
@farmcat3198 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's his wife's bush that looks like a damned wildebeest?
@donnaparks1919
@donnaparks1919 Жыл бұрын
U describe my. sis? But last I saw she was still looking attractive has many fooled by charm
@Nemo_Point
@Nemo_Point Жыл бұрын
:) Brill!
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын
Lol Funny!
@mombeach
@mombeach Жыл бұрын
Because she increased the life insurance, it makes me believe she is guilty.
@roxielabelle2513
@roxielabelle2513 Жыл бұрын
She wasn't a hottie, I'm surprised that everyone wanted her so bad..she must swallow
@selena2875
@selena2875 Жыл бұрын
That and she knew the number off the top of her head. Not even half a year later husband is dead, she was just waiting for for perfect opportunity.
@trextropicalexploration1787
@trextropicalexploration1787 Жыл бұрын
I support the right to arm bears.
@ekonamare7219
@ekonamare7219 Жыл бұрын
This was murder. Sickening she got away with it.
@pablodmdp
@pablodmdp Жыл бұрын
Looks like murder, yes sir
@Monikamusic02official
@Monikamusic02official Жыл бұрын
AND she got paid by HIM for it afterward! This is indeed sickening. I'm almost at a loss...
@gsalazar8176
@gsalazar8176 Жыл бұрын
​@Meka02 never open a life insurance policy under yourself while married, all assets get burned after death.
@Monikamusic02official
@Monikamusic02official Жыл бұрын
@@gsalazar8176 Agreed.
@marcathens2951
@marcathens2951 Жыл бұрын
​@@Monikamusic02officialidiots should have had her locked up !!
@jackiegrice714
@jackiegrice714 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s likely she killed him on purpose. I have seen a bear, in the dark and in daylight. They don’t look a bit like a person, unless you could argue it was so dark Mary Beth could only see a misshapen lump. In which case, she should never have fired, and a human sized misshapen lump looks nothing like a bear anyway. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.
@Aaron-kj8dv
@Aaron-kj8dv Жыл бұрын
Even a misshapen lump doesn't add up because on all fours it's short and wide as a car. When it's on 2 legs it's tall like the predator (unless it's a smaller bear).
@krissteel4074
@krissteel4074 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen a bear in the wild, we don't have them in my country. But there's really nothing much in nature anywhere that looks like a human running around either and if you're hanging out with people that shoot at 'movement', its a good time to stop being anywhere near them!
@DeidresStuff
@DeidresStuff Жыл бұрын
A bear ran in front of my car a few months ago, and there was definitely no question that it was a bear. They are quite round and fluffy.
@E.lectricityNorth
@E.lectricityNorth Жыл бұрын
Experienced and responsible shooters and hunters would never make such an error. She was likely IQ deficient or a clever murderer.
@kafkettethehungerartist
@kafkettethehungerartist Жыл бұрын
​@@DeidresStuff ❤
@rayross997
@rayross997 Жыл бұрын
Their relationship seems to have been totally unbearable. Thanks Dr. Grande, have a great week speculating and not diagnosing.
@PollyAlice2000
@PollyAlice2000 Жыл бұрын
You beat me to it, Ray!😂
@shehaw1
@shehaw1 Жыл бұрын
Wait. Marybeth is in a camper with a pre schooler and infant hunting wild animals. They're all nuts.
@dwinthrop1015
@dwinthrop1015 Жыл бұрын
Also firing a gun from a vehicle on a road. I thought this was generally illegal. Maybe not in the back woods of Newfoundland.
@brigidspencer5123
@brigidspencer5123 Жыл бұрын
She was diagnosed Bi-Polar who had spent time in a mental hospital so she could continue owning guns.
@Nicoder6884
@Nicoder6884 Жыл бұрын
@DEASAR23 They didn't drive camper vans
@meganmassey2017
@meganmassey2017 8 ай бұрын
And don’t forget Mary use to be a man… Eddie Charles Kinter. The whole family sounds like a soap opera
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 5 ай бұрын
​@@meganmassey2017what??? She had a child
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын
I have an aversion to hunters who do it for sport and not for survival. This is a story of adultery and trading partners like musical chairs. Mark leaves his partner of 12-years for Mary. Mary's brother-in-law lags behind as Mark is mistaken for a bear. Mary shoots and kills Mark dead. The brother-in-law then moves in with Mary and Mary collects a lot of insurance money. I feel this could have been planned by both Mark's brother and Mary! I don't think she mistook him for a bear. As the grand finale Marks brother eventually dumps Mary for the babysitter. This convoluted story is almost too much to bear. lol I think Mark's murder was a set-up!
@bthomson
@bthomson Жыл бұрын
DF - I see what you did there. 🐻
@captainamerica6525
@captainamerica6525 Жыл бұрын
I can bearly stand it!
@setfreemiss
@setfreemiss Жыл бұрын
I agree. After living with Marybeth for a time, Mark's brother, Barry realized that living with a murderer wasn't a good plan and that the Babysitter was a much better option. He couldn't expose her to the authorities because she would do the same back to him. They had planned Mark's murder together.
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын
@@bthomson 🙂
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын
@@captainamerica6525 Lol
@bthomson
@bthomson Жыл бұрын
Aren't you supposed to wear BRIGHT orange clothing when hunting? She was lucky not to have to wear an orange prison outfit!
@Nan-Elle
@Nan-Elle Жыл бұрын
Yes, you should never wear your fluffy, faux fur coat that your wife gave you for Christmas. Especially the brown one.
@Pursuit4happiness
@Pursuit4happiness Жыл бұрын
Wow
@bunnybgood411
@bunnybgood411 Жыл бұрын
Canadians rarely convict anyone and if they do it's a slap on the wrist.
@angeladansie4378
@angeladansie4378 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the state & season. We have a spring bear season & I don't think you have to wear orange then. We don't have to wear orange during archery season either. During the fall hunt, when everybody is rifle hunting for deer & elk, you have to wear orange
@NealBurkard-ut1oo
@NealBurkard-ut1oo Жыл бұрын
It depends on many variables. Blaze orange is usually associated with deer and pheasant. However it would be near impossible to hunt turkey with orange
@christopher.m.dickinson0315
@christopher.m.dickinson0315 Жыл бұрын
Unstable person who loves guns never ends well
@dreamcore
@dreamcore Жыл бұрын
most emphatic and intelligent bicoastal comment
@shawnaweesner3759
@shawnaweesner3759 Жыл бұрын
And it seems unstable people always have children!
@jameshill3403
@jameshill3403 Жыл бұрын
​@@shawnaweesner3759 like 5 children usually
@chrissycupcakes2448
@chrissycupcakes2448 Жыл бұрын
​@@jameshill3403 always a lot of them. Like last of us cordecepts. ...like they are purposely trying to spread.
@ALT-vz3jn
@ALT-vz3jn Жыл бұрын
@@shawnaweesner3759…and guns
@bulgingbattery2050
@bulgingbattery2050 Жыл бұрын
"I thought that the person that I shot was a bear". WOW!! That is a water-tight defense for the murder trial!
@NeeNee_B.
@NeeNee_B. Жыл бұрын
The twists and turns in her love life were almost more shocking than the case itself 😂
@katarina1852
@katarina1852 Жыл бұрын
I’ll never understand why a hunter would ever discharge their firearm if they don’t have an unquestionable and clear view of their target. If you’re not absolutely sure of what you’re shooting at, don’t do it. My uncle was shot and killed while out deer hunting. He was found propped up against a tree trunk. It was awful.
@fernan2342
@fernan2342 Жыл бұрын
I can almost hear her saying "I'm sorry. I was scared and didn't know what to do" - while fake crying
@Nylak-Otter
@Nylak-Otter Жыл бұрын
Still have no idea why folks don't use high vis orange camo. Bright to humans, blends in with a breakup background to most prey. Even my hunting and tracking/detection dogs wear hunter orange and reflective body armor.
@csc8697
@csc8697 Жыл бұрын
I had a good friend age 20 get shot by a hunter. He died, same way. After several months the hunter came forward.
@sk8ermGs
@sk8ermGs Жыл бұрын
@@csc8697so sad, how does that even happen!
@Preservestlandry
@Preservestlandry Жыл бұрын
Unquestionable is subjective. THEY don't question it. They don't question their own opinions.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 Жыл бұрын
I heard this case on another channel. She was guilty & very cold, what a weird wedding picture 🖼 😑🐻Loved your points for us as usual. Thanks Dr G😊💌💌
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 Жыл бұрын
This case certainly makes us reflect on the current situation of mental health treatment and gun ownership. That’s an important conversation to have. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this case, Dr. Grande.❤
@charsback
@charsback Жыл бұрын
That wld.mean no cops cld.have guns..
@barbarahill4767
@barbarahill4767 Жыл бұрын
I do not think she is guilty. Lots of hearsay evidence not admissible in court and needed for an guilty verdict. No mention of her mental state at the time of shooting. Was she taking the medication? Could have been hypomanic. Dx? Why did the husband increase his life insurance. Her behaviour after the shooting suggests prepsychosi with paranoia. The role of the brother is unclear. Is it a good idea to leave this woman alone with young children? Why on earth would a person with potentially severe mental è à illness be allowed to carry a gun, at least should be accompanied. Seems too many Americans love their guns.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 10 ай бұрын
That's wild! So you think someone who's been in a mental institution, is bi-polar, has anger issues.................shouldnt have free access to guns? The NRA and the GOP would hang you by the yard arms for saying that. EVERYBODY should have guns, 30 maybe 40 guns is bare minimum. More is better always. If things go bad, they have their guns.
@arinerm1331
@arinerm1331 Жыл бұрын
"Most bears are unemployed." "Most showerheads are non-lethal." These are just a couple of examples of the pearls of wisdom one may gather from Dr. Grande.
@annesilverman469
@annesilverman469 Жыл бұрын
Very few bears.......
@carriefawcett9990
@carriefawcett9990 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe this! This horrible woman committed a murder and not only got away with it, but got rewarded with all that money. I can only hope that the only bit of justice in this is that the hubby ( poor marks brother) ran off with the babysitter. A person as narcissistic as her would be beyond devastated from that, I hope it kills her knowing it. She needs some sort of punishment!
@captainamerica6525
@captainamerica6525 Жыл бұрын
If not in this world than surely in the next.
@magaman6353
@magaman6353 Жыл бұрын
I've owned several Weatherby rifles in addition to dozens of others, and spent a lot of time hunting bears. It's virtually incomprehensible to me how that could have been an accident. Occasionally, hunters shoot others, but it's always in deep woods where only a nervous glance of the target is obtained. But none of that applies here. Plus she was seasoned hunter and shooter.
@bobbyologun1517
@bobbyologun1517 Жыл бұрын
fair points
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Жыл бұрын
“I’m loading my Weatherby.” - Isbell
@philochristos
@philochristos Жыл бұрын
I wonder what the judge in Canada would've said if she had claimed she thought she was shooting at a Sasquatch.
@cplmpcocptcl6306
@cplmpcocptcl6306 Жыл бұрын
Attempted murder.
@shuswapbcoutdoors8652
@shuswapbcoutdoors8652 Жыл бұрын
Sasquatch are fair game in BC, but they are so very very sneaky . . . I've seen many but never long enough to get a good shot off.
@Comegetyomansis4840
@Comegetyomansis4840 Жыл бұрын
“Most bears are unemployed!” Is HILARIOUS! Thank you for the laugh Dr. Grande
@patmuscarella8279
@patmuscarella8279 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande. You explained this in great detail. What I gathered is If a person handling a rifle shoots there husband than says oh I thought that was a bear. Give me a break. She was smart enough to play dumb.
@DeidresStuff
@DeidresStuff Жыл бұрын
Lord Jesus. I'm bipolar and that's exactly why my husband's guns are not where I could immediately access them. I've been stable for a long time, but that's just too easy a way to harm myself or others.
@rubyoro0
@rubyoro0 Жыл бұрын
Man…get rid of them.
@DeidresStuff
@DeidresStuff Жыл бұрын
@@rubyoro0 they're in another house altogether. I don't even know where in that house.
@jmedakwon
@jmedakwon Жыл бұрын
I have BP so I understand how blessed you are to have a supportive husband. I’ve met many husbands who divorce their wives once they find out she has any type of mental illness (I.e. depression, BP). There are many BPs, such as myself, who spend much money to take care of self & be good to the people around me. I am sick of the Kanye Wests who continually use their BP to get a pass for their atrocious behavior. And yes, Mary Beth Harshbarger should be in jail. I wish there were more Deidre Westovers in the world who are responsible enough to know what they can or cannot do as a person with BP.
@vikramgupta2326
@vikramgupta2326 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe the insurance company paid the claim.
@SY-ok2dq
@SY-ok2dq Жыл бұрын
You'd think they would've fought the claim harder and dug deeper into the alleged "accident." Insurance companies know better than anyone when claims smell suspicious and will investigate thoroughly, to avoid paying out large sums to scammers.
@Locutus
@Locutus Жыл бұрын
She went to court, won her case. What more can the insurance company do?
@vikramgupta2326
@vikramgupta2326 Жыл бұрын
@@Locutus The case was suspicious enough its surprising the insurance company couldn't find some fine print or technicality in the policy to avoid paying her. I thought their own policy/review process is independent from legal outcomes, at least partly.
@SY-ok2dq
@SY-ok2dq Жыл бұрын
@@Locutus Well before she was tried in court, I would have thought the insurance company might have dug up more incriminating evidence about her which would help the case. They have greater resources than the public police (limited manpower etc. to spend on just one case). It's a large amount for the company to just pay out, if they strongly suspect it's fraud.
@SY-ok2dq
@SY-ok2dq Жыл бұрын
@@vikramgupta2326 I guess there was nothing in the fine print that the company could use here. But I just thought the company, with their money to pay for top notch investigators who can put in way more time and effort than the police (it's only one case among many for the police) might have dug up more information.
@IndySpirit
@IndySpirit Жыл бұрын
This story could be foreseen when she was shooting in her wedding dress. Crazy!! Live by the gun, die by the gun.
@roysmallian2889
@roysmallian2889 Жыл бұрын
Frightening that a spouse thinks the best alternative to ending a marriage is a shot gun. Obviously she is a psychopath.
@slc1161
@slc1161 Жыл бұрын
Best alternative if you want them gone and come into money.
@Cec9e13
@Cec9e13 Жыл бұрын
Technically, rifle.
@blox1134
@blox1134 Жыл бұрын
she's not a psychopath, just a woman
@RavenClaw88
@RavenClaw88 Жыл бұрын
Damn shot gun weddings!
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 10 ай бұрын
A 30.06 is nothing like a shot gun. A 30.06 round might make a 1" hole going in you, but would leave a huge hole going out the backside. Very powerful rifle.
@sweeabn6736
@sweeabn6736 Жыл бұрын
I FINALLY DISAGREE!!! She murdered him so that she could be with the brother. And she cashed in the life insurance
@jackiecarvill6270
@jackiecarvill6270 Жыл бұрын
A whole new meaning to a ‘shotgun wedding’ 😮
@usamazulqarnain8420
@usamazulqarnain8420 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@nmartin5551
@nmartin5551 Жыл бұрын
The Shotgun Wedding pic was freaky. Nothing normal going on with these two.
@autumnfragrance6326
@autumnfragrance6326 Жыл бұрын
I heard that Mary Beth was hired as the new Armorer for the movie Rust.
@011silbermond
@011silbermond Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@revk8611
@revk8611 Жыл бұрын
For someone who was an avid hunter, none of this story makes sense at all. She is guilty.
@NoahSpurrier
@NoahSpurrier Жыл бұрын
I don’t know… this seems like a tough one. Certainly at least negligent. The life insurance thing is the most suspicious fact.
@missiris1234
@missiris1234 Жыл бұрын
The bear that Mark killed must be cracking up in bear heaven.
@melrei64
@melrei64 Жыл бұрын
"...most bears are unemployed." Dr Grande, you're the best!
@staciebrooks2583
@staciebrooks2583 Жыл бұрын
“And most bears are unemployed “ 🤣🤣 I love your humor.
@fudgeisg00d
@fudgeisg00d Жыл бұрын
I dunno about you guys, but I wouldn't be going shooting with someone diagnosed with bipolar, seems like a serious hazard
@dreamcore
@dreamcore Жыл бұрын
words to live by
@TheFaro2011
@TheFaro2011 Жыл бұрын
Lol you don't understand bipolar. As long as it's not an episode and medicated
@bunnybgood411
@bunnybgood411 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFaro2011 Rolling my eyes.
@CowSaysMooMoo
@CowSaysMooMoo Жыл бұрын
@@TheFaro2011 And you can PREDICT the episode? And KNOW for SURE that one is not coming while she has a gun?
@colleenpeck6347
@colleenpeck6347 Жыл бұрын
My hubby won't allow his schizophrenic younger brother on our 50 foot sailboat. The sailboat books that he read warned against allowing people with psychological problems to sail. It could turn fatal if they get unstable , very unsafe to everyone on board!
@bnic9471
@bnic9471 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing two bear cross a road in broad daylight, and my first rather illogical thought was, "Oh, it's two guys in bear suits."
@notyourdamnbusiness8795
@notyourdamnbusiness8795 Жыл бұрын
"hey Mark....whats up." "im going hunting with my mentally unstable wife" "nice knowing you buddy." of course she murdered him, she didnt plan it, but she took the opportunity when it revealed itself. if it hadn't happened then it would have happened the moment she thought she could get away with it. i also somehow believe that the "relationship" with the victims brother was already in place. ps: bears are self employed.
@jenniferthompson5146
@jenniferthompson5146 Жыл бұрын
“If it’s a bear, great If it’s my husband, that’s ok too” 😂😂
@natalierose13
@natalierose13 Жыл бұрын
No one’s going to talk about the dog squeaking the toy in the background? 😂😂
@janedoe7229
@janedoe7229 Жыл бұрын
I kept thinking what is that ??? Lol
@AB-un4io
@AB-un4io Жыл бұрын
My God man!! I laughed and laughed. 😂😂🤣🤣 It’s that droll wit, the timing and delivery I look forward to! Add your particular cadence and body language and it equals comedy gold. All the best to you and yours. And, as always, thanks for the video. 🙂❤️
@phoenixrising4995
@phoenixrising4995 Жыл бұрын
I already got the Intel ARC A770 already.
@FwireFwower1989
@FwireFwower1989 Жыл бұрын
This relationship was a mess since the beginning. And it ended a mess with the help of a two timing BIL. This case is messed up.
@wayneurquhart7192
@wayneurquhart7192 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the guide should have something to answer for by creating this dangerous situation in the first place.
@Kat-I-am3333
@Kat-I-am3333 Жыл бұрын
Something fishy about the fn thing...🙄
@dwinthrop1015
@dwinthrop1015 Жыл бұрын
I agree. If this was truly an accident, the guide could have been the victim just as easily.
@terryowen6759
@terryowen6759 Жыл бұрын
No vest and walking back in the dark...maybe she had a deal with the guide too?
@richardpatterson2554
@richardpatterson2554 Жыл бұрын
Thank god they had a guide with them otherwise something bad might have happened.
@imaginempress3408
@imaginempress3408 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 Жыл бұрын
It does sound negligent with the firearm. Shooting in the dark is reckless (in my humble opinion) unless it is self-defense. Thank you 🤔❤🇺🇸
@dreamcore
@dreamcore Жыл бұрын
in your correct opinion
@vikramgupta2326
@vikramgupta2326 Жыл бұрын
Even in self defense it can be negligent if you haven't identified the target.
@MooseGuy1
@MooseGuy1 Жыл бұрын
@@vikramgupta2326 Nah. It's worked for me for years. I got a burglar once with a 9 mm pistol. And I've only killed 3 neighbors, 1 child, a sister, and a mother-in-law I didn't really much care for. Then there was the time I shot Dad with a 12 gauge high-velocity slug. Big mistake, I admit it. Dad lost his head, the wall behind him blew out, and I ended up with a walk-through bathroom.
@Boss-Possum
@Boss-Possum 11 ай бұрын
@Mooseguy1 Hey man, I'd like to invite you to my mother in-laws house. 🙂
@peakydene1943
@peakydene1943 Жыл бұрын
IMO, the circumstances leading up to Mark’s death is highly suspicious. I think one of the two following things happened: 1. Beth and Mark’s brother, Barry, conspired together for Mark to be killed on the trip, then Beth would receive the money from the newly increased life insurance policy on Mark’s death, and then Beth and Barry would get together…or… 2. Beth alone decided that she would kill Mark on that trip, and then Beth would receive the money from the newly increased life insurance policy on Mark’s death. Too many things made it unlikely that it was an accident: -Beth and Mark were not getting along and Beth was mad at Mark. -Mark had made the comment to someone about how Beth could kill him and, if she did it, it would be quick. -Beth was bipolar, was quick to anger, and was disliked by many of Mike’s family. -Beth had a history of previously attacking someone physically. -Beth was angry with Mark over having to check into a mental treatment facility voluntarily. -Beth was proficient with firearms and hunting and knew when to shoot and when not to shoot at animals. -Beth had knowledge of what a bear looks like. -Beth knew not to shoot at an object not yet identified and/or at night when something could not be seen. -Mark’s life insurance policy had recently been increased.
@vladimirputindreadlockrast812
@vladimirputindreadlockrast812 Жыл бұрын
How could she have mistaken Mark for a bear if he was un-bearable? A quandary! I wonder if she would have fired, had it not been Mark, but another hunter?
@ruthmay9868
@ruthmay9868 Жыл бұрын
He knew what it was to be a bear at the end
@gnuwaves743
@gnuwaves743 Жыл бұрын
Even if it was an accident, think of the kids. For the rest of their lives if someone asks them "Where is you dad?" they'll have to say, "Oh, my mom shot and killed him. Whoopsie."
@bbbb98765
@bbbb98765 Жыл бұрын
Her husband definitely was not 'smarter than the average bear'
@donnaparks1919
@donnaparks1919 Жыл бұрын
He didn't know when to flee. Her anger may have burned hot. Enough to get revenge.
@minnietrout814
@minnietrout814 Жыл бұрын
You’re right, BooBoo 🐻
@danam774
@danam774 Жыл бұрын
​@@minnietrout814 😂
@seascape1016
@seascape1016 Жыл бұрын
Well no one needs to kill a bear or a moose just because they can. The dark shadowy figure she saw was her reflection when she looked in the mirror everyday. But judging by the pictures I looked at Mary Beth was the bear in that animal killing circus.
@bunnymad5049
@bunnymad5049 Жыл бұрын
My BFF is horrifically bi-polar. She's the sweetest person you'll ever meet and certainly not argumentative or aggressive and when she does need to be hospitalised or go into respite, she's happy to do so as she knows they need to readjust her meds. She manages to work as well, though she's had a lot of work time off lately. Mary Beth's guilty, I think. Her character is a problem when it comes to her being difficult to get along with, not her bi-polar. And Barry is a completely awful person. Mark never looked happy in those photos either. Interesting take Dr G. I'm suss that she did it, but I see what you mean.
@chocolatethunder192
@chocolatethunder192 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Dr. Grande! I'm cracking up at your jokes about bears, especially about how most bears are unemployed. 🤣 I didn't know that the system allows folks to sidestep having their gun ownership halted (e.g., beign asked if they want to be voluntarily committed vs. involuntarily). That's so bizarre to me!
@IncogNito-gg6uh
@IncogNito-gg6uh Жыл бұрын
Kind of a compromise lobbyists made with legislatures. "Ok, if they are crazy, but won't admit it, we won't sell them a gun as long as some authority knows they are crazy. However, if they admit they are crazy we can sell them all the guns we can."
@jimc6687
@jimc6687 Жыл бұрын
Definitely one bad explosive relationship! I know there's numerous arguments to the contrary, but I will never understand hunting and especially hunting bears. My experiences with bears are all positive and these have been cute and fun as it usually involves playful cubs, but I really do not get hunting bears.................
@neworleans1979
@neworleans1979 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! I will never understand hunting at all!
@inuchan74
@inuchan74 Жыл бұрын
I was not expecting the "Most bears are unemployed" observation 😂
@imaginempress3408
@imaginempress3408 Жыл бұрын
And yet...
@roxannespahr2804
@roxannespahr2804 Жыл бұрын
😂 ..."I'm starting to question if the lodge owner has ever seen a bear" Yeah, blue coveralls and a 3 day old beard...sure screams bear to me. 😂 Every video you put out ends up making me laugh with your humor. I look forward to your videos every day!! ❤️
@facemuscles9
@facemuscles9 Жыл бұрын
I find the involuntary conversation coercive usually. I’ve had a number of people who did not qualify for inpatient care come to the facility because the doctor was going to 302 them if they didn’t sign voluntarily. I get it. We need to keep them safe, as well as the public. I don’t care for this arrangement though. If they are a 302 and have demonstrated themselves as a threat, then use the system put in place to protect them and others.
@leighannedwards2495
@leighannedwards2495 Жыл бұрын
The life insurance increase is suspicious. I think she would have “accidentally“ shot her husband at another time if she didn’t get him on this trip. It would be helpful to know whose idea was the hunting trip and I wonder if the police considered the guide might have been bribed to pretend to stop to pee in the woods, therefore letting the husband go on alone. Any way you look at it, she should have done some jail time.
@concettaworkman5895
@concettaworkman5895 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I wondered too if maybe she bribed the guide with 50 to 100 grand or something. We'll never know.
@megret1808
@megret1808 Жыл бұрын
Buying stuff is a characteristic of the bi-polar condition. It’s emotionally exhausting to deal with
@helpyourcattodrive
@helpyourcattodrive Жыл бұрын
Another wild one. Thanks for all the interesting stories, Grande. I learn so much on your channel.❤
@MDWD
@MDWD Жыл бұрын
Never heard of this. I totally agree with you Dr. Grande. I couldn't have summed it up any better
@johnnytass2111
@johnnytass2111 Жыл бұрын
Ernest Hemingway wrote a story similar to this, but with a lion.
@vincecomuna
@vincecomuna Жыл бұрын
I really can stand this culture of killing animals for your own pleasure.
@markstevenson6635
@markstevenson6635 17 күн бұрын
t?
@steverl22
@steverl22 Жыл бұрын
Just when you think that the police in America are terrible.....here comes Canada 🤣🤣🤣 Horrible police work.
@cassandraslaney4292
@cassandraslaney4292 Жыл бұрын
I live in Newfoundland and I’m not surprised on the judge’s decision. Our criminal justice system is a joke, especially in rural areas like Grand Falls
@zebeart8808
@zebeart8808 Жыл бұрын
I think that hunters should be allowed to go to giant hunting parks and be allowed to hunt each other. This would get rid of a lot of violent people who like to kill things.
@sevengramrocks2746
@sevengramrocks2746 Жыл бұрын
Says the person with the violent idea… lmao
@CapnWack
@CapnWack Жыл бұрын
Most hunters do with the eat not for sport
@zebeart8808
@zebeart8808 Жыл бұрын
@@sevengramrocks2746 It would get rid of violent humans and improve wild food source for hunters. I think it's a wonderful idea. So is not wearing a mask or not getting vaccinated during a pandemic. Did you know that it appears from statistics that Republicans died of Covid at a rate of 5 to 1 during the worst parts of the pandemic. Some say that it may have even affected the mid terms. The question is: Did they die from poor medical advice or from worshipping the Beast?
@zebeart8808
@zebeart8808 Жыл бұрын
@@CapnWack The hunters could make their human kills a delicacy. That's the way they are. They like to hunt, hurt, kill, and devour their prey.
@minnietrout814
@minnietrout814 Жыл бұрын
@@zebeart8808 🤣🤣🤣 Source?
@drdr76
@drdr76 Жыл бұрын
I saw a bear wearing blue coveralls at Build a Bear, so not that unusual.
@NudePostingConspiracyTheories
@NudePostingConspiracyTheories Жыл бұрын
“On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat, to bear with the beard and the blue overalls?” - Meatloaf
@hollytherese753
@hollytherese753 5 ай бұрын
Oh man, I’m dead 😂😂😅 the part about the lodge owner not knowing what a bear looks like!! 😂😂😂
@capturehishonor9292
@capturehishonor9292 Жыл бұрын
Again, a very astute analysis! I am slowly becoming a fan.
@kripaharris237
@kripaharris237 Жыл бұрын
Why slowly Dr grande is excellent
@alexpopowski1318
@alexpopowski1318 Жыл бұрын
I considered shaving off the entirety of my body hair while dating my psycho ex, just in case she mistook me for a wild animal.
@donnaparks1919
@donnaparks1919 Жыл бұрын
I will never reconcile with my sis cause I know what she capable of I will forgive but never trust like a den of cobras
@alexpopowski1318
@alexpopowski1318 Жыл бұрын
@@donnaparks1919 hope you find peace in that decision. I know exactly what that’s like.
@bunnybgood411
@bunnybgood411 Жыл бұрын
Why are you men attracted to women like this? Men b¡tch about psycho women like her but they ALWAYS fall for them. Puzzling
@donnaparks1919
@donnaparks1919 Жыл бұрын
I need the truth be out I'm just afraid to be the one to do it but this got to end.
@donnaparks1919
@donnaparks1919 Жыл бұрын
@@alexpopowski1318 what sis D did to mom was no accident.
@sbrooke210
@sbrooke210 Жыл бұрын
I have less than zero sympathy for any human who wants to kill an animal. I can't even imagine wanting to do that. The murder and all of the circumstances and details aside, the only thing I can't get past is that these people wanted to kill animals and that makes them demented and Insane as far as I'm concerned. The rest of it is their own damn karma. I will say the children didn't deserve it and hopefully have survived emotionally unscathed, though I doubt that
@neworleans1979
@neworleans1979 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you!!! These poor animals don’t stand a chance!
@bitbrace
@bitbrace Жыл бұрын
Let me guess you were born and raised in a city
@sbrooke210
@sbrooke210 Жыл бұрын
@@bitbrace totally and thoroughly inaccurate. Let me guess, you like death metal and guns🙄
@bitbrace
@bitbrace Жыл бұрын
@@sbrooke210 Nope no death metal can't understand a word they're saying, but yeah we all have guns out here in the sticks, thought only citidots didn't have guns
@M_isMe
@M_isMe Жыл бұрын
Great analysis & lovely to hear your dog had fun in the background with a toy😊 Greetings from your Danish fans!
@bthomson
@bthomson Жыл бұрын
Boy you guys must have great hearing! I tried two times and heard nothing!
@houseofsolomon2440
@houseofsolomon2440 Жыл бұрын
Bear hunting in Canada often involves a bait station with stale donuts, bacon grease, bread, etc. Very unsporting & cowardly...
@mamaduck9370
@mamaduck9370 Жыл бұрын
Liars and rifles and bears, oh my! Had to chuckle at your doubts regarding bearlike features identified by the hunting lodge owner. Thanks for the video.
@lisbethbird8268
@lisbethbird8268 Жыл бұрын
Bears in the woods don't walk or act or look or sound like people. How could she? Then bamboozle the court? In front of the kids. Was she stable ? Psychotic? Off her meds?
@ReaperCH90
@ReaperCH90 Жыл бұрын
She got away with the most obvious murder. I think she did not plan it, but saw an opportunity.
@TheFoulblood
@TheFoulblood Жыл бұрын
They could never prove beyond a reasonable doubt unless she messaged someone about it or wrote something down about it. Unfortunately mark put himself in a bad situation with someone he didn't feel safe around
@willwong1234
@willwong1234 Жыл бұрын
I bet if it was the husband who shot his wife, he would've been convicted.
@Flamsterette
@Flamsterette Жыл бұрын
Her husband was a bear, huh. That could be taken more than one way.... Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande!
@DeidresStuff
@DeidresStuff Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that she had discovered he was secretly gay and she found out and was angry enough to kill him 😅
@Flamsterette
@Flamsterette Жыл бұрын
@@DeidresStuff Hahaha, right?
@jlemaire9418
@jlemaire9418 Жыл бұрын
Doc got jokes.
@megleland6320
@megleland6320 Жыл бұрын
When "your love" wants to take you hunting after dark, without reflective high contrast clothes on...well maybe suggest a trip to Universal Studios or something else instead.
@NuLiForm
@NuLiForm Жыл бұрын
Hi.Great show. i live not far from that family, here in PA & it was all over the news here for ages. Despite the pro gun rights & obvious slaNT OH HER 'LOVE OF THE OUTDOORS'(KILLING THINGS) & cLEAR oMISSION OF HER MENTAL CONDITION...WHICH WAS nO sECRET AS SHE WAS ALWAYS IN SOMEBODY'S FACE FOR UPSETTING HER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER...opinions were polarized...they were gun & kill happy...she was exceptionally pretty, and flirtatious...& besides that guys around here are drawn to women who love guns. So...she was Always allowed any infractions she desired to commit, including having custody of children in her Known Dangerous mental state... I am Firmly convinced she was misdiagnosed....she actually displayed Psychotic characteristics not BiPolar...there is a big difference between those mental issues. But..this is Good Ole Boy territory & the Letter of the Law is viewed as more of a suggestive guideline rather than..well..The Law. Besides that lil factoid..did i mention she was very pretty & flirtatious? Another thing Wrong with the case...it Leaps out to me that she knew the Insurance phone numbers off the top of her head..Fascinating, especially considering it had just been Radically increased...& she immediately began a relationship with hubby's brother... All are screeching red flags of spousal murder. It is Not hard to co-ordinate a hunting trip...and a murder scene with such easy loopholes such as this one. They obviously chose that area knowing the case would not be handled properly & they would get away with it...the guide was probably paid or threatened to hang back... The fact the brother ran off with the nanny while she was institutionalized is hilarious poetic justice...but for one thing...i believe he was Very complicit in his brothers death...and is now in the wind...to do it again. aS IS SHE. Apologies...this keyboard has it's own mind...
@DavidDeeble
@DavidDeeble Жыл бұрын
I got into legal trouble with PETA one time when I mistook a bear for my wife…
@bradweir5579
@bradweir5579 Жыл бұрын
The guide was in on it
@idacoetzee
@idacoetzee Жыл бұрын
An example of an ability to shoot a firearm call emselves “hunters” but incapable of recognizing the target animal- she is a perfect example of a person who should not have firearms- she failed to follow the basic safety and hunting rules, a bipolar diagnosis should also prohibit firearm possession.
@susandean8584
@susandean8584 Жыл бұрын
I am from Newfoundland. This was a well publicized case when it happened. Just to help you with the pronunciation Dr. Grande, Buchans is pronounced Buck-ens and Newfoundland is pronounced New-fen-land.
@joanmilley487
@joanmilley487 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Susan… I am a Newfoundlander also and I was going to give Dr. grande an FYI about the pronunciations as well.
@angepack1
@angepack1 Жыл бұрын
Someone told me once- It’s Newfoundland, understand?
@susandean8584
@susandean8584 Жыл бұрын
@@angepack1 yes, that’s it.
@LavaLahaie
@LavaLahaie Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been something to see them driving back with Mark strapped to the hood of the car.
@sophiaisabelle0227
@sophiaisabelle0227 Жыл бұрын
We appreciate Dr Grande's dedication and hard work on this channel. God bless him.
@amischair
@amischair Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, your humorous analysis is just too much to bear.
@MrNtesla3327
@MrNtesla3327 Жыл бұрын
Unless he was dressed in a bear suit she's at least guilty of manslaughter and probably guilty of murder.
@BigZebraCom
@BigZebraCom Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating on what could be happening when a *_homosapiens_* mistakes another *_homosapiens_* for an *_Ursus arctos_* like this.
@cremdilly7176
@cremdilly7176 Жыл бұрын
a joke like this stinks
@BigZebraCom
@BigZebraCom Жыл бұрын
@@cremdilly7176 Isn't that code for 'you really like this joke' ?
@minnietrout814
@minnietrout814 Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah, she’s guilty. Guilty as sin. She could easily tell it wasn’t a bear when looking through that scope.
@dwardm
@dwardm Жыл бұрын
Always here to support Dr. G
@Huliaho
@Huliaho Жыл бұрын
Actually chasing bears (not the best way to put it, but essentially that's what is going on) is a proper way of hunting bear, it's just you kinda need dogs for that tactic. Everyone hunts bear with dogs here in NC, we have a very dense black bear population. I don't know anyone that hunts bears in a tree stand, but I also quit bear hunting several years ago and now mostly hunt deer and rabbits because that's what I like to eat. So if I was bear hunting, I would want comfortable boots to run in and a few Plott hounds and Mountain Feists to "get on" the bear. Not wearing orange is pretty dumb though, I could see this being an accident, but I don't think it was.
@imaginempress3408
@imaginempress3408 Жыл бұрын
I have met 2 rescue Plotts up in PA. Are they a well known breed? They are unheard of here in SE PA.
@Huliaho
@Huliaho Жыл бұрын
@@imaginempress3408 they are especially well know from where I'm from, Plotts were first bred here in Haywood County NC. I'm not sure how well known they are outside the NC/TN area though. Wonderful dogs, but since I don't bear hunt anymore I prefer having a small Mountain Feist, wonderful dogs that are great for squirrel hunting and just being a loving family dog. Edit: hunting Plotts can be very expensive here, and breeders work actively as gatekeepers, which means I don't get along with most of them. Someone needs to get a couple Plotts and challenge the monopoly of these old bastards.
@imaginempress3408
@imaginempress3408 Жыл бұрын
@@Huliaho unfortunately they end up mistreated and taken to shelters. Rescues ship them up North for placement; that's how I have met both the Plotts I know.
@lynnehuff9659
@lynnehuff9659 Жыл бұрын
I don't blame her for never wanting to go to a mental institution ever again. Jail is better. For an experienced hunter to shoot her husband, in this way seems very suspect.
@nigglenoo
@nigglenoo Жыл бұрын
Hi Dr Grande, as a UK citizen I have appreciated your analyses of Peter Sutcliffe the “Yorkshire Ripper”, Harold Shipman and most recently Jemma Mitchell. Some years ago I requested that you cover Fred & Rosemary West, plus the Moors murders carried out by Ian Brady & Myra Hindley. Both these cases have left an indelible mark on the UK national consciousness, standing out not only for their brutality and callousness plus the vulnerability and innocence of the victims, but also because both apparently involved a couple killing together. The Moors murders are particularly relevant to me as my late mother grew up nearby and occasionally talked about the impact they had on the local population. Again I would very much appreciate you covering these two cases, thank you in advance.
@Achase4u
@Achase4u 8 ай бұрын
I dunno. I've seen a bear with a green hat, shirt collar and green tie before. But he was indeed unemployed. He just went around stealing picnic baskets.
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