Teenager Who Pursued Undesirable Friend is Murdered in Remote Area | Kelly Bullwinkle Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

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@valeriemacphail9180
@valeriemacphail9180 Жыл бұрын
The root of all "pranks' is malicious intent. Humour for one, humiliation for the other.
@rolandscoth8520
@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын
You nailed it, how are you doing today
@BubbyBold
@BubbyBold Жыл бұрын
There do exist funny and wholssome pranks. A good prank is when everyone involved laugh
@strawberrysubmarines
@strawberrysubmarines Жыл бұрын
@@rolandscoth8520man you’re just the rizzard of oz in these comments
@gabriellejohnson7324
@gabriellejohnson7324 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@cyruscherry35
@cyruscherry35 Жыл бұрын
I think the excuse of its just a joke is a way to gaslight the victim..you can literally kill a person and claim it was just a joke
@rullvox5912
@rullvox5912 Жыл бұрын
I don't think they should ever be released either, they are a menace to society.
@erikamccarthy1457
@erikamccarthy1457 Жыл бұрын
💯 If anything, he deserved an equal amount of time (not less). Jail sentence should of been life without parole for both, definitely premeditated murder. Fact, beyond doubt….
@CashCowz962
@CashCowz962 Жыл бұрын
Indeed...that poor girl...never ever seek the company of folks that don't like you...that's the first thing you must pick up when you hang out with people ......
@jodybrown4956
@jodybrown4956 Жыл бұрын
Re introduce ball and chain work all the ungrateful selfish entitlement out of this kind of subhumanoid .
@Moodboard39
@Moodboard39 3 ай бұрын
But but but , the laws caters to criminal lol they love giving lighter sentences . I wonder (depend on that state ) if they actually giving them right sentences from the penal code ....
@PyrPupMom
@PyrPupMom Жыл бұрын
If someone makes it clear that they don't want you around, leave them.
@StellaChristelle
@StellaChristelle 10 ай бұрын
As my grandmother always said - Better off alone than badly accompanied.
@charlyshay1013
@charlyshay1013 Жыл бұрын
You nailed Damien's "simple but effective" tactic of being really nice to Kelley and then turning right around and being really mean to her as a way of keeping her on the hook. Unfortunately, that tactic is all powerful on a person with low self esteem. Very sad.
@Rawnervzz
@Rawnervzz Жыл бұрын
Yes I wish I could walk into the memory and tell them that
@dougankrum3328
@dougankrum3328 Жыл бұрын
I was in High School in the early 1960's...I guess in a way it was a good thing for me that I really, really liked to read....I went right to the nearby library after school and read for a couple hours...went home for dinner, then read until bedtime...my parents had been teachers at one time so we had a whole library of books at home...I never missed being involved in a 'group'....and outside of the reading thing...I did go to the YMCA...mostly for the Olympic sized pool, as I liked swimming too...and YMCA showed occasional free movies...
@jtzoltan
@jtzoltan Жыл бұрын
​@@dougankrum3328how do you encourage a kid to enjoy reading to the level you did?
@Rawnervzz
@Rawnervzz Жыл бұрын
@@dougankrum3328 good for you, I believe my life would be different mostly for the better if I had no social life in highschool
@Heywood.Jablome
@Heywood.Jablome Жыл бұрын
Taking notes on Damien's Pickup Method....
@shellyharry8189
@shellyharry8189 Жыл бұрын
Damien and Kinsey should never be released. They're dangerous.
@matthewtoxic6691
@matthewtoxic6691 6 ай бұрын
As someone who knew all three of them, Kelly, Damien and Kinzie, I can tell you Damien and Kinzie are text book sociopaths, from my experiences with them before and after Kelly’s murder when we were all helping search for her.
@elizabethhamm5320
@elizabethhamm5320 Жыл бұрын
Poor Kelly. She was a naive, vulnerable teenager who didn’t want to be isolated. Too bad that she didn’t have enough pro social relationships with her peers to protect her. Thanks again for another great analysis Dr. Grande
@jameshudkins2210
@jameshudkins2210 Жыл бұрын
Some bad people look for those who are vulnerable for some reason. They can be easier to Gaslight, Lead On or whatever unfair and deceitful ill behavior one has in mind.
@hollydaugherty2620
@hollydaugherty2620 Жыл бұрын
It’s not the job of teenagers to “protect” other teenagers.
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
[QUOTE] The poster is correct. Female are inherently narcissitic in their neuro-psychology. This is for evolutionary reasons. Like is attracted to like; as they see themselves in each other. And like narcissits, they are disgusted by humans with excessive humanity and care little for them (the extent they do is shallow as any truthful woman will attest to and 'feel’). ENFJ-females among many other narcissist-craving and loving “feelers" will often lose their virginity to narcissits. This is essentially a 'life-cycle’ for most females. How the narcissits makes the mentally undeveloped and narcissist woman feel is what draws and compels her mind, heart and 'clit’ to it. Consider your highschool experience for example; such occasions are cliche-i.e. essentially a 'life-cycle’ for females who often narcissitically believe their clit to be irresistible. Later in life, after “swallowing" and absorbing the narcissists/cluster-B sexual essence and narcissitic abuse… Only 'then' are these narcissitic little girl finally ready to “lower" and belittle themselves for a “good-man" (human with excessive humanity as an instinct). Most human female's are inherently wilful, narcissistic, hypersexual girls at their core essence. Get over yourselves! Too many females have a similar experience, i.e. spending their younger, beautiful years [secretly] having sex with narcissists for the emotional 'tingles’, before 'settling’ down for the “good man" (who they 'consistently’, and narcissitically perceive to be “lesser" in sexual attractiveness, compared to they multiple narcissit/cluster-B EX). This is the life-cycle of most women, especially the more “attractive" ones. Consider your life experiences, it is one such example of countless many. And it persists throughout human history, and certainly will into the future. Female's crave emotional-stimulus, because like narcissits, so many of them feel “empty" on the inside, and they instinctively look to a narcissist to 'fill’ them up with their sexual energy. Think about it…
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
​@@Adam2-2 I hate your stupidity. 🤦‍♂️💢 It would be funny if you weren't getting honest. ~ Willing lamb's to the slaughter. (It's almost as if the nature of their thoughts is purposely designed to lead them to the slaughter house, smh).
@TheFakeyCakeMaker
@TheFakeyCakeMaker Жыл бұрын
Proving the old adage true "treat them mean keep them keen"
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 Жыл бұрын
“The pain of being lonely is less severe than the pain of being with a antisocial partner.” - that’s spot on! Thank you for the review, Dr. Grande.❤
@MeloBurgers
@MeloBurgers Жыл бұрын
OMFG my exact problem!! i’m truly hoping to overcome this t e r r i b l e issue!!
@sandangels73
@sandangels73 Жыл бұрын
So true! That's why I never remarried after my divorce 21 years ago. Im just not willing to take that kind of chance again.
@KoolT
@KoolT Жыл бұрын
No, it is SO MUCH BETTER to be alone than with an abuser. This girl didn't love herself enough. Never be a DOORMAT.
@JaxonSmithers
@JaxonSmithers Жыл бұрын
That's true, I've been lonely for 12 years and it's still a lot better than being with a psychopath, sociopath, or narcissist.
@KoolT
@KoolT Жыл бұрын
Love yourself enough to never accept abuse.
@panpan-vz3om
@panpan-vz3om Жыл бұрын
'the winner would be with Damien, this is a battle to see who could demonstrate the lowest standards ' :)
@ntlkrr
@ntlkrr Жыл бұрын
It makes me so sad when teenagers respond to bad friends with neediness. I wish she had a stronger self esteem.
@rolandscoth8520
@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын
They need be restructuring in the teenagers of our days, how are you doing, you have a cute smile
@YankeeBoy512
@YankeeBoy512 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it’s not your intention, but your comment sounds a lot like victim blaming. Of course she was needy, as many teenagers are. Her parents should’ve done a better job of instilling self-esteem in her, if you want to blame anyone other than the actual criminals.
@Mlpgirl168
@Mlpgirl168 Жыл бұрын
@ntlkrr it is VERY sad, indeed. 😢
@mahboopful
@mahboopful Жыл бұрын
Hard to navigate this time of life.
@inezaa
@inezaa Жыл бұрын
same
@mwartchow
@mwartchow Жыл бұрын
I understand how a lonely person can be fooled by a fake friendship. I was bullied in elementary school, so when two girls appeared to want to be friends with me, I ignored their mean comments and became the blunt of their jokes. Thankfully, it did end when I went to a different middle school.
@PlanesKiwi
@PlanesKiwi Жыл бұрын
It's a chilling thought that there's the possibility that those two killers may be released to roam about freely among us. They are still young & physically able enough to cause death and destruction.
@DreamingInTechnicolor
@DreamingInTechnicolor Жыл бұрын
It’s a sad state of affairs when being young and naïve, can easily lead to a death sentence.
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
It actually isn't. It saves the lives of the virtuous, intelligent, and high-sentient people. The "defects" (especially when they can help it; and I was referring to the willfully R-tarded) must never be prioritized over the healthy, healthy and productive people who care about society, and do not live a life solely dedicated to "avoiding feeling upset". She got the "tingles" she sought after and badly wanted. If those were decent/"good people" who momentarily were being "mean" to her-she would've left, asap! Zero interest. Zero patience. Somehow, these sorts of homunculus (low-sentient "feelers") always find a way to search for cluster-b, and they usually have sex with them at some point, while pretending to be "searching for themselves", or doing their"healing", or "trying to figure out their feelings about somebody or a situation." She got what she deserved. It help to keep the streets clean of homunculus (lumps of meat who live only to crave emotional stimulation... But only from dark-triad/bad-boys, obviously).
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
The poster is correct. Female are inherently narcissitic in their neuro-psychology. This is for evolutionary reasons. Like is attracted to like; as they see themselves in each other. And like narcissits, they are disgusted by humans with excessive humanity and care little for them (the extent they do is shallow as any truthful woman will attest to and 'feel’). ExFJ-females among many other narcissist-craving and loving “feelers" will often lose their virginity to narcissits. This essentially a 'life-cycle’ for most females. How the narcissits makes the mentally undeveloped and narcissist woman feel is what draws and compels her mind, heart and 'clit’ to it. Consider your highschool experience for example; such occasions are cliche-i.e. essentially a 'life-cycle’ for females who often narcissitically believe their clit to be irresistible. Later in life, after “swallowing" and absorbing the narcissists/cluster-B sexual essence and narcissitic abuse… Only them are these narcissitic little girl finally ready to “lower" and belittle themselves for a “good-man" (human with excessive humanity as an instinct). Most human female's are inherently wilful, narcissistic, hypersexual girls at their core essence. Get over yourselves! Too many females have a similar experience, i.e. spending their younger, beautiful years [secretly] having sex with narcissists for the emotional 'tingles’, before 'settling’ down for the “good man" (who they 'consistently’, and narcissitically perceive to be “lesser" in sexual attractiveness, compared to they multiple narcissit/cluster-B EX). This is the life-cycle of most women, especially the more “attractive" ones. Consider your life experiences, it is one such example of countless many. And it persists throughout human history, and certainly will into the future. Female's crave emotional-stimulus, because like narcissits, so many of them feel “empty" on the inside, and they instinctively look to a narcissist to 'fill’ them up with their sexual energy. Think about it…
@beckycantrell5547
@beckycantrell5547 Жыл бұрын
@@Human_01 what the heck is wrong with you!
@overzealouseuthanasiast9731
@overzealouseuthanasiast9731 Жыл бұрын
@@Human_01 Sounds a lot more like _you're_ one of the "defects" dirtying up society, trying to deflect your failings and insecurity onto those who don't have the means to defend themselves. I bet your computer hard drive already has a vivid cornucopia of incriminating material for future detectives to discover too.
@MaxCady7.62
@MaxCady7.62 Жыл бұрын
​​@@Human_01ou sound like you have never even touched a girl and youre mad about it.
@ForAncientKingAndElvishLord
@ForAncientKingAndElvishLord Жыл бұрын
As an introverted lonely person I can confirm that sometimes you can be vulnerable and it can get dangerous
@laurastrobel718
@laurastrobel718 Жыл бұрын
Agreed Dr G. Those 2 sociopaths should never see the light of day. Sad Kellys' lack of self esteem led to making an ultimately fatal decision in selecting peers and hopefully a romantic partner. RIP Kelly 💓💐🙏🕊️🌈
@HexagonFL
@HexagonFL Жыл бұрын
Every time you say “probably because of the murder part,” I laugh 👍🤣
@sdsurfgirl60
@sdsurfgirl60 Жыл бұрын
This is a parents worst nightmare. 😢 I agree with Dr. Grande that they should never be released.
@sandhanitizer15
@sandhanitizer15 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, this is why i love your channel. You can be telling a story, completely serious, and fit in a line like "at least he didn't have to finish watching The Matrix Revolutions" without changing tone or facial expression lol.
@joker6solitaire
@joker6solitaire 5 ай бұрын
I guffawed at that one! There's a delightful webcomic called "xkcd," and the author made a comic about the Matrix trilogy: Three people are finishing watching the first Matrix movie at home. One person says, "Let's watch the next one!" And the other two say something like, "Man, what a shame they never made any sequels." The first person says, "But they did--" "--YES, it's TOO BAD they didn't make sequels," the other two conclude emphatically.
@donprice9050
@donprice9050 Жыл бұрын
Do they give courses in prison like, "How to appear remorseful" and "How to say you have changed and found God"? Or the favourite, "How to say what juries and parole boards want to hear"
@RoseNZieg
@RoseNZieg Жыл бұрын
yes those are greatest things to learn in prison.
@jacks1bonnielass
@jacks1bonnielass Жыл бұрын
@@RoseNZieg 🤣
@reingp
@reingp Жыл бұрын
and apparently these parole boards are gullible too. Manipulated so easily while putting the rest of society in danger
@jenanne31
@jenanne31 Жыл бұрын
Good one! 🤣
@jtzoltan
@jtzoltan Жыл бұрын
​​@@reingph man, there was a case here in Canada with a man serving life in prison with the possibility of parole after 15 years for murdering his partner extremely violently. He was evaluated and classified as a high risk of reoffending, but a few years later was reclassified as moderate risk. The prison board parole board at the 15 year mark approved him to parole at a halfway house where he'd have a day pass, which he soon used to arrange a meetup with a $ex worker that he then proceeded to murder in a similar manner he did his girlfriend if I recall correctly. The $ex worker's name was Marylene Levesque. It's disturbing what they're doing to criminal justice under the misguided belief that the problem is primarily the criminal justice system and society, and that the offenders themselves bear little responsibility for who they are... I'd say it's even worse in the US where in big cities repeat offenders will commit murder, be caught and released with little to no bail (due to "bail is discrimination" policies) just to then commit another murder, robbery, etc. Long sentences for people committing crimes that directly harm themselves at most like what they used to do for possession of small amounts of drugs for personal use, that's evidently more destructive than it is anything like an effective deterrent, but long prison sentences for people who commit repeat violent offenses or other serious crimes do indeed work to at least keep those people off the streets. Mind you, it needs a high degree of certainty to try to protect the wrongly accused. We just ought to apply similarly punitive measures to white collar criminals as well like the Bernie Maydoffs and such.
@tasha3757
@tasha3757 Жыл бұрын
6:35 "Because she was funny when she was scared" 😠 Anyone would be _scared_ with a gun pointed at them, even including herself. Despicable!
@barbaramiller2956
@barbaramiller2956 Жыл бұрын
"Loneliness is a powerful and sometimes hazardous motivator." This needs to be said loud and often--to keep people out of destructive relationships.
@AndriaBieberDesigns
@AndriaBieberDesigns Жыл бұрын
Why are these people up for parole. They’ll just get out to the public and hurt somebody else.
@pantherinparadise9686
@pantherinparadise9686 Жыл бұрын
Have you not noticed our government officials?
@rolandscoth8520
@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын
They are the most corrupted people in the world, how are you today?
@theshadylady1982
@theshadylady1982 Жыл бұрын
Ya... that's why they do it. That's what they want.
@CommercialForest
@CommercialForest Жыл бұрын
July 2023 update…Damien granted parole
@mistrjt9213
@mistrjt9213 Жыл бұрын
Ungrateful ass kids are so damn stupid these days. They’re beginning to enter the workforce now. 🤦🏻‍♀️
@NetSunJin
@NetSunJin Жыл бұрын
Glad Kinsey’s parents weren’t delusional and could see through her bs and felt she needed to be put away . I agree. They should never be released from prison.
@Job.Well.Done_01
@Job.Well.Done_01 Жыл бұрын
I had a friend who tried to k i l l me under the ‘soul tie’ friendship claim. When I figured things out and broke the plot, My old ‘friend’ got extremely angry. There were all kinds of clues. All kinds of ways my old friend tried to lure me into my own death. I flanked the plan and caught my friend. There is lots of evidence and plenty of terror involved in the discovery. My advice: Never allow yourself to be such a nice person that you are blind and naive to how malicious people are. We all have malice within our abilities as humans but some people choose evil over good.
@Angie_bae
@Angie_bae 3 ай бұрын
I was drugged and beat up. Chelsea MA police didn’t do anything!
@tmajcan94
@tmajcan94 Жыл бұрын
With a name like Damien, you know it's a bad "Omen". 👿 Well done again Dr. Grande. A great way to end the weekend.
@redemptionhappens7725
@redemptionhappens7725 Жыл бұрын
I hate that name and if I was cursed with it I’d change it the second I reached 18.
@redemptionhappens7725
@redemptionhappens7725 Жыл бұрын
@@caddieohm7059Us oldies associate it with one of the most disturbing movies and evil characters of all time.
@jessicaellina3878
@jessicaellina3878 4 ай бұрын
Yes..do people really still give their boys that name?? It is a big no no in the UK..as well as Myra ( Hindley) the infamous child serial killer, along with her boyfriend Ian Brady.
@merlinsteele6840
@merlinsteele6840 Ай бұрын
Yep only idiots give their kids that name.
@Toughmittens
@Toughmittens Жыл бұрын
I was in the same situation that Kelly was in. I wanted to be loved by a group of antisocial people. One day, the sort of leader of the group took us to a hiking trail in the middle of the night and acted as if he was going to kill me with a pick axe while the others laughed at my hysterical screaming. I had snuck out of my room without anyone knowing and he pointed out that he could kill all of us and no one would know because we were all teenagers that had snuck out of our homes and he was an adult that didn’t go to school with us. That man was arrested for attempted murder years later and now I don’t know where he is. I was in love with him and so were the other girls in the group. He negged me just like the guy in this story. I’m surprised by how similar all of this is to what i went through. This even happened so close to where I lived and around the same time. I think that the alternative culture that was popular during that time made it hard to differentiate between the people who were just doing it to be cool and the people who were actually mentally unwell and dangerous.
@redemptionhappens7725
@redemptionhappens7725 Жыл бұрын
Yes. The grunge and goth teen cultures were unbelievably toxic and hid a lot of antisocial personalities.
@AFBudgets
@AFBudgets Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness you got out of that TO many kids die because they sneak out:(
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
You're annoying. You deserve to be with anti-social people.
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
[QUOTE] The poster is correct. Female are inherently narcissitic in their neuro-psychology. This is for evolutionary reasons. Like is attracted to like; as they see themselves in each other. And like narcissits, they are disgusted by humans with excessive humanity and care little for them (the extent they do is shallow as any truthful woman will attest to and 'feel’). ENFJ-females among many other narcissist-craving and loving “feelers" will often lose their virginity to narcissits. This is essentially a 'life-cycle’ for most females. How the narcissits makes the mentally undeveloped and narcissist woman feel is what draws and compels her mind, heart and 'clit’ to it. Consider your highschool experience for example; such occasions are cliche-i.e. essentially a 'life-cycle’ for females who often narcissitically believe their clit to be irresistible. Later in life, after “swallowing" and absorbing the narcissists/cluster-B sexual essence and narcissitic abuse… Only 'then' are these narcissitic little girl finally ready to “lower" and belittle themselves for a “good-man" (human with excessive humanity as an instinct). Most human female's are inherently wilful, narcissistic, hypersexual girls at their core essence. Get over yourselves! Too many females have a similar experience, i.e. spending their younger, beautiful years [secretly] having sex with narcissists for the emotional 'tingles’, before 'settling’ down for the “good man" (who they 'consistently’, and narcissitically perceive to be “lesser" in sexual attractiveness, compared to they multiple narcissit/cluster-B EX). This is the life-cycle of most women, especially the more “attractive" ones. Consider your life experiences, it is one such example of countless many. And it persists throughout human history, and certainly will into the future. Female's crave emotional-stimulus, because like narcissits, so many of them feel “empty" on the inside, and they instinctively look to a narcissist to 'fill’ them up with their sexual energy. Think about it…
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
Utterly brain-dead, and fit only for the humanoid-cattle farm. Smh. 🤦‍♂️
@jackiegrice714
@jackiegrice714 Жыл бұрын
The whole concept of having a soulmate has gotten a lot of people in trouble. Kelly was too inexperienced to see the danger she was in. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.
@tessaducek5601
@tessaducek5601 Жыл бұрын
The concept of soulmate has completely lost its meaning since used in the 60s. But I guess everything has.
@KoopaBOOEY
@KoopaBOOEY Жыл бұрын
What puts me in disbelief is that, what would be the probability that you would find a soulmate in a high school? That’s profoundly naive to think you will find someone special in a high school, who gets you, in a world where there were 7 billion people existing a that time. If Kelly wasn’t so naive to think high school is the best that the world can offer in a soulmate, she would still be alive and finding better people to have a relationship with. But I don’t think a soulmate exists. I think a more compatible mate would have been out there if she looked deeper and realized Damien is just one out of many outcasts who like Marilyn Manson and Natural Born Killers and all that early 00’s nonsense
@peterolbrisch8970
@peterolbrisch8970 Жыл бұрын
The whole concept of soulmates is creepy and clingy, as well as mathematically improbable.
@peterolbrisch8970
@peterolbrisch8970 Жыл бұрын
​@@tessaducek5601The concept of soulmates is creepy and clingy and mathematically improbable.
@peterolbrisch8970
@peterolbrisch8970 Жыл бұрын
​@@KoopaBOOEYThe concept of soulmates is creepy and clingy and mathematically improbable.
@jenniferfoote5442
@jenniferfoote5442 Жыл бұрын
When i was a teen in the 80s i hung with the metalheads and punk rockers..we were definitely the outcasts and antisocial to a degree but never not once did we consider killing eachother..in fact it made us love eachother more being 'different'
@TNKabouter
@TNKabouter Жыл бұрын
When i was a teen in the 70s i hung out with outcasts and druggies but no one killed anyone, i had a bad taste and clingyness too, not much harm came from that except from the parents: how do you dare do that to us!!
@Jeanne90275
@Jeanne90275 Жыл бұрын
Both should have gotten LWOP. This was obviously premeditated first degree murder.
@farmcat3198
@farmcat3198 Жыл бұрын
The pain of being lonely is less than the pain of being with an anti-social partner. This is a lesson learned too late for many.
@Justynbrodsky123
@Justynbrodsky123 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of diagnosing, much more into hearing speculations about situations like it though. Thanks Doc!
@brookiegremlin6660
@brookiegremlin6660 Жыл бұрын
countless murder confessions have started thusly: "okay, so our plan was just to scare her..."
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
And they achieved it and more! 😂🎉
@MrJuvefrank
@MrJuvefrank Жыл бұрын
Christian Brando was no exception to the rule.
@robinhaupt9119
@robinhaupt9119 Жыл бұрын
I always appreciate your insight and analysis of those who commit crimes, thank you.
@jane.c.c
@jane.c.c Жыл бұрын
They killed for no reason, just for kicks, so they don't deserve to ever get out of prison
@BigZebraCom
@BigZebraCom Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening in an adventure with Moose without Squirrel like this.
@chesterfinecat7588
@chesterfinecat7588 Жыл бұрын
Her life was Rocky.
@BigZebraCom
@BigZebraCom Жыл бұрын
@@chesterfinecat7588 Well done!
@BansheesBanshin
@BansheesBanshin Жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard I scared my dog
@bryanwalthall5483
@bryanwalthall5483 Жыл бұрын
​@@chesterfinecat7588That deserves an Angry Upvote.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@catlady9012
@catlady9012 Жыл бұрын
Some people are evil. Too bad Kelly had such low self esteem that she could not see this. Personally I would rather be alone than with people like those monsters.
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
She is evil as well. If she wasn't, she wouldn't have found her company so appealing (and to the extent that she died for it, and we even willing to put up with the abuse and seemingly subtle threats). She didn't use her brain. She was only emotionally hungry for some "tingles".
@rolandscoth8520
@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct it’s better to be alone and happy than been with people who are not ready to help you combat any you are facing. How are you doing?
@paranoidasteroid3439
@paranoidasteroid3439 Жыл бұрын
What in the victim blaming hell is going on in these replies. So a lonely and probably insecure teenage girl deserved to be killed because she wanted to be a part of something, even it was the wrong crowd? Please remember these people were the only ones she thought that “noticed and accepted” her. Even though their behaviour shifted and they treated her terrible afterwards; she probably didn’t want to “lose” these people, thinking this is her only chance at being a part of something. You don’t know how it feels being the only person without a partner during a group project, or how looking at your spare page in the yearbook hurts. Especially as a teenager.
@jow.6605
@jow.6605 Жыл бұрын
Two psychopaths who should never be released.
@Ycjedi
@Ycjedi Жыл бұрын
"But at least he didnt have to finish watching The Matrix: Revolutions" 😅😅
@carpenanne
@carpenanne Жыл бұрын
You give insightful analysis. I particularly value your comments about loneliness… it can be so hazardous if we don’t unpack it and reframe it as a gift and opportunity to get to know yourself as your own best friend. Thanks.
@Fireproofwitchnz
@Fireproofwitchnz Жыл бұрын
Dr Grande coming in hard with the roasts 😂 "Competing for low standards"
@wicklunda
@wicklunda Жыл бұрын
I find your approach so helpful. I am learning to use your techniques in my job.
@jkjives1786
@jkjives1786 Жыл бұрын
So you don't diagnose situations, you only speculate about what could be happening? 😅
@BloodylocksBathory
@BloodylocksBathory Жыл бұрын
This crime reminds me of a film from 1969 called Last Summer, starring Barbara Hershey and Bruce Davison. It involves a group of friends who over time seem to enable cruelty in each other, and turn their attention towards a shy girl who longs for acceptance and companionship. It too ends very badly.
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon Жыл бұрын
1969.
@BloodylocksBathory
@BloodylocksBathory Жыл бұрын
@@plasticweapon thanks for catching that
@michael-m
@michael-m Жыл бұрын
That was an interesting one. As per usual I have to express my thanks for tonight's video, Doc. I can offically call my day complete now that I viewed today's case. Stay well people! OH! One more quick thing....(please read👇🏼) If you are Canadian, I hope you had a great Canada Day! 🇨🇦 If you are American, I hope yall have a great 4th! 🇺🇸 Regardless, make smart choices this long weekend. No excuse to drinking or drugging and driving and just overall be safe out there.. Watch out for each other whether on the roads, waterways, trails, backyards and BBQs or frankly wherever! I wanna continue to see yall here I future videos. No excuses. Stay well both Doc and y'all out there ✌🏼
@dizmoolli275
@dizmoolli275 Жыл бұрын
💯👏👏 Gracias
@MartineH1
@MartineH1 Жыл бұрын
Evil people can demonstrate what they are already at young age. Our job as parents is to teach our children how they can protect themselves against this kind of people. Some evil people can hide their evil intentions but some are proud to show everybody what they are. Teach your kids that good people around them bring good things. Bad people are not to trust or to have around.
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
............................. "Evil" is the antithesis to the virtue: 'humanity'. Humanity is the characteristic that defines the human spirit. Humanity is symbiosis across humans and society. 'Humanity' exceeds 'social-darwinism'. ............................. NEURO-PERSONALITY ............................. "SENSORY-FEELERS" ARE LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR SPREADING DISINFORMATION AND HATE TOWARDS ENTJ/INTJ (AGAINST "THINKERS" IN GENERAL)-BOTH IRL AND ON THE INTERNET; DESPITE THOSE NEURO-PERSONALITY TYPES BEING A BLESSING TO SOCIETY AND ALL OF MANKIND! THEY DESERVE BETTER! 😤 'ESFJ', 'ESFP', ISFP and ISFJ are a pathogen to humanity, and 'then' Cluster-B (depending on they neuro-personality). THEIR "FEELINGS 'IS' THEIR REALITY", THEY ALSO HAVE A MALICIOUS-MIND BY DEFAULT (excluding normal ISFJ). DESPITE HAVING MALICIOUS INTENT THEY ARE ALL EMOTIONALLY-WEAK AND PRONE TO COVERT/VULNERABLE-NARCISSISM. ............................... Also... To intelligent readers (who do 'not’ have a ‘pathological disregard for rationality and reality'). I recommend researching 'narcissistic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissist'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!! They are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-r@pe, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim/damsel in distress, creating "flying-monkeys", and 'bribing' others (with money or BJ) to attack, or at times, kill someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Emmett Till. xSFP and ISFJ (2W1) are the most complicit, narcissistic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependents' (look up the definition). Like ESFJ, XSFP's "feelings 'is' their reality." Most are covert/vulnerable-narcissists. ISFJ often perceive things only on the surface level (even by sensor standards), are suckers for a “pretty face", and their neuro-psychology makes them the ideal narcissitic-codependent and pawn to the ESFJ (blind-loyalty, surface level perception, susceptibility to covert-narcissism). Lastly, ISFJ are notorious for impersonating other people's identities IRL and on the internet. SUMMARY Evil personality: 'ESFJ' (ALL), ESTJ (Cluster-b), ISFJ-2W1 (covert-narc/enabler). [Secretly] Evil and narcissist-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP (ALL), ESFP (ALL), and ISFJ (2W1 enable ESFJ). ☝️ALL of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict as a distraction (at other people's expense, truly evil). Spread the word! Thank you. ___________ Research ref: Raudha Athif, Ghislaine Maxwell, Marilyn Monroe, Karen, ESFJ-narcissists, ESFJ-neurology, Gaslighting, Amber Heard, Fake feminism, Rising of a shield hero (Malty-'ESFJ'; XSFX spread disinformation online. ISFJ is the main culprit; ISFJ largely perceive things on the surface level), 'Brood-parasitism’- XSFJ natural psychology. // Close.
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
Whoah!! Too much intelligence and sign of basic sentience in your post! Ps: I was referring to the "our job as parents..." Not to product dumb children who can only mindlessly indulge their feelings, and live the life of an overgrown incubating-fetus and vulnerable-narcissit. ... That's basically what you're implying, and to that, I say... "Kudos". 👏🤯🎉 Most parents will never authentically arrive at that realization, let alone act on it. All the not reason for "parental licence." Not everyone is suited to produce and rise a human. Most can hardly manage an actual pet (like "Doggo" over here, 👉🐶 🐕 ~who's a good boy?🦴 ). ... Lol. 😅🤭
@MartineH1
@MartineH1 Жыл бұрын
@@Human_01 I struggle to be a good parent. I try to not lead my daughter to take (or not to take!) my own steps and it is one of the hardest things to do. I talk a lot to her and try to help her to find her own way and it is hard to not use my own experiences as example (bad or good). But I usually say that the things that are really important in this life: be happy, and it is your responsibility. But don't hurt anyone when you are seeking hapiness. Be honest and decent. It comes back to you in blessings. Be generous, specially to the vunerable ones. It comes back to you in form of love. Chose wisely those ones that will be around you. It comes back to you as support and good enviroment. Even Jesus did it. And believe that God helps the ones that have good will...And go and live, for life is a gift (a "presente" as we say in portuguse). Yes, live the present!
@CG-MP
@CG-MP Жыл бұрын
this story reminds me of a childhood friend and the types of people she hung around in high school, to where she wasn't the crazy creepy one, but for some unfathomable reason she desperately craved attention from those types.
@CommercialForest
@CommercialForest Жыл бұрын
This happened a few towns over, before social media was big. It didn’t get much publicity, but glad it was solved. Rip
@jdd3786
@jdd3786 Жыл бұрын
It didn't get much publicity because mainstream media protect their own.
@eddenoy321
@eddenoy321 Жыл бұрын
@@jdd3786 So mainstream media is all anti-social teens ? Learn to think before you post.
@LetItBeSummer-1
@LetItBeSummer-1 Жыл бұрын
RIP Kelly. Sorry for all who loved her. 💕 This is painful…no words
@maxshabazz1543
@maxshabazz1543 Жыл бұрын
That Matrix Revolutions joke was brutal lol. Truly tragic case.
@zwatwashdc
@zwatwashdc Жыл бұрын
Bad parents leave their kid’s vulnerable to this kind of evil.
@leslijones4443
@leslijones4443 Ай бұрын
Not always.
@KoolT
@KoolT Жыл бұрын
Why some arrogant jerk could think it is okay to kill another person is so sad. Poor girl.
@shakeworldwide2031
@shakeworldwide2031 Жыл бұрын
she was sweet met her through my friend Adam, who was also a Crafton Hills College student….. rest in peace, the both of them
@dieselandlevimygoofyhuskie9420
@dieselandlevimygoofyhuskie9420 Жыл бұрын
I love your work Dr Grande cheers from Australia 🇦🇺👍💕
@farmcat3198
@farmcat3198 Жыл бұрын
An on again off again relationship: He gets on to her and then he gets off of her. Rinse and repeat.
@mattsspelman1457
@mattsspelman1457 Жыл бұрын
Bro wtf you slipping a cheeky roast of The Matrix in there. 😂
@tycobb2580
@tycobb2580 Жыл бұрын
07:15 "at least he didn't have to finish watching 'Matrix Revolutions'" fr
@joychappell3817
@joychappell3817 Жыл бұрын
Hardest working man on KZbin! Happy Fourth of July weekend Dr. Grande! 🎉💥 Thank you for your excellent content.
@rolandscoth8520
@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын
Yes he is best at his work, how are you doing?
@buschovski1
@buschovski1 Жыл бұрын
Such a Gorgeous girl. Its unbelieveable how these bastards can do this. Another kill your good friend case. There shouldnt be cases like this at all. But they are completely lacking feelings of any kind. It didnt seem like they even gave a shit if they got caught. Life means nothing.
@thomasdoubting
@thomasdoubting Жыл бұрын
I rather name my boy Sue than Damien...
@BansheesBanshin
@BansheesBanshin Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this story. Great analysis. I agree they need to die in prison.
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
I strongly agree. But they did get rid of a homunculus, pampered lump of meat who never owned her own mind (solely acting on emotional cravings). Correct enforcement and legislation of "Parental licence" will solve so much of societies ills and result in an increasingly sentient population.
@rolandscoth8520
@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын
He is best at his job smiles, how are you doing?
@m.f.richardson1602
@m.f.richardson1602 Жыл бұрын
Always interesting. Another reason for Me to limit my experience with people Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲
@tracymiller1149
@tracymiller1149 Жыл бұрын
"I guess he was giving up on the romantic relationship. Probably because of the murder part." I agree with Dr. Grande that they shouldn't be released from prison.
@Monka83
@Monka83 Жыл бұрын
😢 so sad.. poor Kelly, so naive. I hope her soul now resta in peace.
@Human_01
@Human_01 Жыл бұрын
Oh, it is (count on it)! 🤣 -Not much of a choice.-
@BrowniExpress
@BrowniExpress Жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand the whole “parole” thing when you plan and kill someone. Like wtf does that even mean? “Hey you can kill someone but don’t worry, in a few decades we’ll just let them go back into society” like wtfff
@Vamatt99218
@Vamatt99218 Жыл бұрын
I was a loner in high school and i never fit with any group but i never wanted to be with antisocial mean people....
@chickenmonger123
@chickenmonger123 Жыл бұрын
What a waste of life.
@megatherion2695
@megatherion2695 Жыл бұрын
Just what I needed. Thanks, Doc!
@thebcrowd2757
@thebcrowd2757 Жыл бұрын
It’s rare that anything good comes from naming your child Damien. Just saying.
@yamnjam
@yamnjam Жыл бұрын
These evil people have no idea how much their crimes devastate the victim's families. The pain never really goes away and we can never see our loved one again. I agree with Dr Grande that unrepentant killers like these two should stay in prison.
@SkewtLilbttm
@SkewtLilbttm Жыл бұрын
Jeez, the forehead on Damian. I can picture the engorged, pulsating vein that almost certainly dominates such an expanse of noggin any time some unlucky poof crosses our P-25 (to life) wielding boyo born with a helluva boulder to shoulder along with all that guilt.
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын
I agree they should never be released. They not only pose a danger to society but they do not deserve to have a life of freedom after what they did to Kelly.
@roxannespahr2804
@roxannespahr2804 Жыл бұрын
Woke up just to watch this wonderful person named Dr. Grande analyze another crazy situation...when you say "now moving onto my analysis" or "just a theory, my opinion" i sit up taller and pay full attention 😂 I love your analysis on everything you cover. Very smart and def know what you're talking about. Thank you for being here and I hope you had an explosive holiday weekend...Happy independence day!! ❤️
@rolandscoth8520
@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын
Happy Independence Day, how are you doing?
@sjtdxitditsitdurzirxur5926
@sjtdxitditsitdurzirxur5926 Жыл бұрын
The discharge of a gun during a murder. What a silly fucking charge.
@Arizona_lilly
@Arizona_lilly Жыл бұрын
They were very jealous of her is that her she’s pretty
@davortomicic5401
@davortomicic5401 Жыл бұрын
Kelly has been separated by her father as he devorced her mother and this fact made her vulnerable and the pain of separation made her extremly vulnerable. Devorce is the betrayel of love and this a cosmic crime that has bad consequences for chieldren who naively attract demonic persons. Beyrayel of love put chieldren in danger. Thank you dr.Grande for your analysis that is close to the truth amd can teach us to avoid the tragedy happen!
@madalfromuk4729
@madalfromuk4729 Жыл бұрын
I think her mother being away at sea did not help she must have made her feel she did not love her
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Жыл бұрын
Gavin Nuisance has a striking lack of insight too. Unfortunately he’s not in the pokey. Yet.
@MrJuvefrank
@MrJuvefrank Жыл бұрын
I have to accuse him of being soft on murder.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJuvefrank he’s the most dangerous man in the US. Look what Californians Schiff, DiFi and Nutsy did when they moved from Crazyfornia to the national stage.
@puspavelai8353
@puspavelai8353 Жыл бұрын
"I guess Damian was familiar with this concept - considering how many people *he* creeped out" Oof! 😉😅
@pamglass6007
@pamglass6007 Жыл бұрын
Why is it there is so much drama and instability in almost all lesbian relationships?
@RoseNZieg
@RoseNZieg Жыл бұрын
why did it feel like they were fighting for the lowest-hanging fruit?
@Spent_Jungus
@Spent_Jungus 11 күн бұрын
I can't get over making a club in high school based on sexual preferences. Where kids are. Then they wonder why people call them groomers
@rullvox5912
@rullvox5912 Жыл бұрын
Her real name was Bullwinkle? 😳 There was a cartoon long ago called Rocky and Bullwinkle. Rocky was a flying squirrel and Bullwinkle was a moose.
@Texicana_512
@Texicana_512 Жыл бұрын
I think she is native american...
@shojinryori
@shojinryori Жыл бұрын
Bullwinkle/Bullwinkel is a legit surname, apart from cartoon moose and squirrel. 😊
@rullvox5912
@rullvox5912 Жыл бұрын
@@Texicana_512 ..Bullwinkle is a rare British name.
@rullvox5912
@rullvox5912 Жыл бұрын
@@shojinryori ..its a rare British name.
@Texicana_512
@Texicana_512 Жыл бұрын
@rullvox5912 many natives had to convert to Christianity and changed their names. Natives would be the only ones to carry on 1800 's surnames
@tomraw4893
@tomraw4893 Жыл бұрын
A bit of life experience and wisdom might have warned her off these killers after recognizing the 'creep' factor.
@sharonwilfong503
@sharonwilfong503 Жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary. Your analysis of these two demented people is spot on.
@rolandscoth8520
@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын
So true he is best at his work, how are you doing today?
@peculiarlittleman5303
@peculiarlittleman5303 Жыл бұрын
Better to be alone than in bas company. Get a dog!
@MrJuvefrank
@MrJuvefrank Жыл бұрын
My doggy is smarter than the people who killed that girl.
@Emm325
@Emm325 Жыл бұрын
Oh, where are all the “women never get an equal sentence” whiners? Aka basement dwellers…
@MrJuvefrank
@MrJuvefrank Жыл бұрын
California gave those murderers a very good deal; I don't see why this state likes it when murderers get out and kill again. The girl who fell isn't going to get parole from death.
@JamieLedweather
@JamieLedweather Ай бұрын
It's crazy how high schools allow kids to start clubs based off of their sexual preferences.
@kellygulnick3960
@kellygulnick3960 Жыл бұрын
You're so funny dr grande!!😂 that being said its so sad how many people dont realzie their own value...why didnt kelly see she wss worth so much more than a man and "friends" that treated her in such a manner!
@jodybrown4956
@jodybrown4956 Жыл бұрын
Kelly would be advised to have read the inspired book the Bible made friends with her creator come to know his personal name been forewarned of effect of poor choices bad associations reaping what we sow don't throw pearls before swine supposed justice system humankind's failure to act with wisdom soon reveals identity of true influence behind vast majority last days raise your heads erect deliverance near stay on narrow path ovoid broad spacious road many traveling on leading to destruction .
@texastea5686
@texastea5686 Жыл бұрын
Have you done a video on the Louisiana teacher who fed her students cupcakes laced with her husband's s*men?
@tkenglander6226
@tkenglander6226 Жыл бұрын
It's very sad that Kelly gravitated to these cruel outcasts. If she had had one true friend, she may have avoided hanging out with them and grew up to learn how to manage her introversion and make friends.
@manal-hh3xh
@manal-hh3xh Жыл бұрын
“He was facing a potential life sentence but at least he didn’t have to finish watching matrix revolution” 😂 god I love Dr. grande
@Floppyearsmomma
@Floppyearsmomma Жыл бұрын
This is so sad. Kelly was very attractive... much more so than her murderers. If she had only believed she could open her life up to caring people.
@amcluesent
@amcluesent Жыл бұрын
Confused? You will be, in this episode of Soap
@Vamatt99218
@Vamatt99218 Жыл бұрын
You nailed that the 3rd matrix movie was the worst of the trilogy, i always believed the first to be the only matrix.
@NikkiVoelkel
@NikkiVoelkel Жыл бұрын
Can I make a request? Can you do an anlysis on KZbinr/childrens comedian Colleen Ballinger. I'm interested in knowing your take on her personality.
@psychmr2365
@psychmr2365 11 ай бұрын
Pitifully. The there are a lot of Kellys out there. I may have been one at her age. It’s best to be needy of no one. Mankind is too flawed. If you need love, buy a dog.
@MDWD
@MDWD Жыл бұрын
You nailed it Dr.Grande as always. Txs
@claireemily1983
@claireemily1983 Жыл бұрын
I would like to know what Kelly’s parents are like.
@WoodyWard
@WoodyWard Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the speculation and analysis. 👍
@amieskattebo1378
@amieskattebo1378 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on body integrity identity disorder?
@rolandscoth8520
@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын
Only if the corrupt government officials will allow him, how are you doing?
@birdworldist
@birdworldist Жыл бұрын
Yesss king go off
@TheActualJesus
@TheActualJesus Жыл бұрын
*yasss
@HexagonFL
@HexagonFL Жыл бұрын
Dr. King Grande
@privard89
@privard89 Жыл бұрын
Cactus crew checking in 🌵!
@luv5117
@luv5117 Жыл бұрын
go awff
@jimc.goodfellas
@jimc.goodfellas Жыл бұрын
This always makes me laugh when I see it, imagine Dr Grande going off
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