TRAINWRECKORDS: "Be Here Now" by Oasis

[@fortheloveofbog]

On the radio yesterday the DJ was like "Hey everyone it's the 25th anniversary of Be Here Now! Definitely gotta be one of my favorite Oasis albums for sure" and then instead of playing a song from it he put on Champagne Supernova.

[@dragontales1999]

LMAO

[@soulbrother5435]

At least not Wonderwall

[@susragejr477]

@@soulbrother5435 Today-

[@soulbrother5435]

@@susragejr477 dont you dare open the pandoras pox

[@susragejr477]

@@soulbrother5435 -is gonna be the day

[@CasperLD]

I was 18 when I bought this in 1997. I remember when I put it on for the first time. Life was good. At 20 I left the UK for the States to better myself. I became a citizen and worked hard. It was 5 whole years before I returned to the UK and when I finally got home the album was only on track nine.

[@babscabs1987]

It's still being recorded so this is bullshit

[@CasperLD]

@@babscabs1987 just 100 more bars of "nah nah nah na na nah, nanna na nah nah nanna naah" and we'll do lunch.

[@MrKarmapolice97]

casperld I was 18 also I remember buying it and I fucking love D’know what I mean, I still play it today

[@babscabs1987]

@@CasperLD it was the first album I bought with pocket money, I was 13, I loved it and now everyone is telling me it's shit and now I don't know what to do with myself

[@motor_craft]

@@babscabs1987 it's okay buddy. Don't let opinions of others destroy your enjoyment and self worth.

[@identifymenot]

I saw an interview from Noel once, who said that his creativity came from being unemployed in an economically depressed North of England. And once he had rose to international stardom, he found it harder and harder to find inspiration.

[@matthewcoombs3282]

Rod Stewart said the same thing after those classic early solo albums and the stuff he did with the faces, he lost his mojo. When he became a megastar he stopped writing as he said, "What do I write about, my Champagne is cold and the Nanny is late picking up the kids.....?" Songs about personal jets and mansions don't resonate with ordinary people.

[@isetmfriendsofire]

I think that tends to become a problem with a lot of bands. Plus, early on, there isn't as much of a time crunch to write new music.

[@isetmfriendsofire]

matthew coombs I guess you write about your views and past personal experiences. A musician needs to learn to channel creativity, not wait for it and base it on what's in front of you.

[@spotthedogaye2921]

I think it might have been from "there we were now here we are: the making of oasis".

[@lunardoeseverything5393]

Why didn’t he write an album around that???

[@bren7431]

I’m listening to all around the world, and Jesus Christ man you only covered half of it. I wasn’t ready for the La La section after the Na Na section, then an “and I know and I know” section, then more trumpets and a “please don’t cry I won’t say die”section. IT JUST KEEPS GOING. THERES ANOTHER NA NA SECTION AS IM TYPING THIS WTF IS HAPPENING???

[@whatr0]

Todd truly said it best calling it "a death march of peace and love" it just. keeps. going.

[@stephenmartland-buck9590]

It was the "it's like climbing a mount everest of cocaine" that got me laughing. I remember thinking the the exact same thing back in the day!

[@melonysnicket]

this comment inspired me to take a listen for myself. at a point where i was like "oh god it's awful how long until it ends" IT WAS THREE ENTIRE MINUTES AWAY FROM THE ENDING also the genius page for this song includes a snippet of an interview with noel gallagher where he said the song was originally even fucking longer than that

[@christopherwall2121]

Was there a doot-doo section?

[@99veruca]

Did it ever finish? Are you free now?

[@nellfromhell7192]

I remember one time when my dad was drunk I heard him singing all around the world but replacing every word with wank

[@EtherDais]

Had some kind of neural misfire and heard wank to every word of daft punk's around the world......worth it

[@pinecone9619]

My stepfather did the same thing, but he wasn't covering anything.

[@anthonymcilwain4426]

Now THAT is funny - That I can Picture.

[@rockaway0beach]

The same way their authors intended

[@eddiedingle767]

Wank wank wank wank Wank wank wank wank Wank wank wank wank

[@Redpipe327]

Weird trivia but the Phantom Menace comparison is hilarious because Ewan McGregor was Noel’s next door neighbor when he was cast in Phantom Menace and when this album came out.

[@riahlexington]

Redpipe327 that is hilarious!

[@riahlexington]

Also I love Evan

[@riahlexington]

*Ewan

[@nifralo2752]

I'm sure George Lucas has this on his ipod

[@riahlexington]

Really?

[@seatspud]

If there ever was a better image describing Noel and Liam, it's those trains smashing together.

[@mrsuns10]

Haha

[@Ironman1o1]

If the trains after backed up and then just kept doing it over and over again.

[@ryanjavierortega8513]

They’re back, baby

[@Ironman1o1]

@@ryanjavierortega8513 GET THAT COAL!

[@Krebfest]

The fact that we went from "I only got one request for Trainwreckords" to it arguably being the show Todds most known for is beautiful

[@TetraDax]

..when on earth did that happen? For some reason I always thought that Trainwreckords was the least watched series on here, even though I always loved it

[@DJsocial7102]

​@@TetraDaxall of his content is pretty much on a level playing field at this point. Hell id argue his pop song reviews are his least popular videos which is kind of funny.

[@therebelreaper1486]

I'd say one hit wonderland is the biggest series for him

[@thatoneguy9582]

@@therebelreaper1486 worst hit songs series, surely

[@4r4chn1da33]

@@TetraDaxyou thought trainwreckords is less popular then CINEMADONNA???

[@PoetryJesusY2K]

Pitchfork said it best when they wrote that Oasis didn’t make this album, cocaine MADE them make this album

[@DerekPower]

They also called it the worst engineered album ever.

[@carudesandstorm]

at least cocaine gave us Station to Station, this is just… painful

[@shawnfields2369]

@@carudesandstorm Maybe it's painful, (especially "All Around The World"), but at least it gave us "Don't Go Away", which can arguably, in my personal opinion, can be compared with "Wonderwall", and is as good ad that song. But with "All Around The World", like what Todd said, "they went from being inspired by The Beatles, to remotely copying them". They're basically just being a Beatles cover band by that point. Still, "All Around The World" is probably the biggest reason why the album's as painful as it is to listen to, being a NINE minute song! 9 minutes, of weird shit, while they're flying around the world, in what looks like a yellow submarine, yet ANOTHER Beatles reference... it never ends. The song's still going, in fact. If you listen hard enough, you can, in fact, STILL hear Liam and his nasally, sarcastic sounding na, na, na's, going on, to this day! You know what, let's just go back to "Don't Go Away". That song's only 4:48. Nearly 5 minutes, but only 4 minutes, 48 seconds. Sounds like a perfectly fine song length. Geez, you could start and raise a family by the time "All Around The World" is supposedly finished! What in the bloody hell were they thinking?

[@FernieCanto]

​@@shawnfields2369 What's worse is that, even though they're trying to sell themselves as a Beatles cover band, they're not even succeeding at that. All Around the World is a rip-off *not* of the Beatles, but of "Sowing the Seeds of Love", by Tears for Fears. Listen to the two back to back.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@FernieCanto What, really? I thought "All Around The World", sounded familiar, but I was thinking they were just trying to copy The Beatles, but they were inadvertently copying ANOTHER band? How do you even do that? Trying to copy one band, but then, you end up sounding like a different, 3rd band? What a bunch of wankers... and I'm not even British. I still enjoy "Don't Go Away", but they tried to be The Beatles, but they couldn't do that right? Well, at least if they wanted to be a successful band, choosing to copy The Beatles, isn't a bad idea, but if you're going to try and do what they did, you can't slouch. It has to be your best, otherwise, you're just ripping off their sound, and ripping off the Beatles worst albums, and worst songs, and it's definitely NOT Oasis's best. This is their worst album for a huge number of reasons. Which is a shame, but I could listen to "Don't Go Away", all day. Thanks for the info, dude.

[@recklessted]

I can appreciate that when Daft Punk makes a 10 minute song, they have the decency to title it "Too Long".

[@jooree7696]

Either that or Giorgio By Moroder

[@freeparking301]

Those longer Daft Punk songs also have great placement on the albums they’re on as well. Or in the case of “Too Long” in the Alive set list, in a concert setting.

[@bkjamesdaking]

@@jooree7696 Giordio by Moroder isn't a song it's an audiobiography.

[@pentexsucks43]

*I can appreciate that when Daft Punk makes a 10 minute song, they have the decency to make it an amazing track that closes an already amazing album fixed it

[@kobalt_ren01]

and Green Day's two 9 minute songs on American Idiot (Jesus of Suburbia and Homecoming) are multi-part songs with varying sounds.

[@EazyB90]

You know those times as a kid or teenager when your parents forced you to come with them to visit some relative or friend of theirs, and after an evening of excruciating boredom, it's FINALLY time to go? But then your mother starts talking as she's putting on her coat in the foyer, and they blather on for ANOTHER 40 minutes? That's what listening to this album feels like...

[@susragejr477]

Terrifyingly accurate

[@PLAGUE-KARM]

As someone who has suffered through this experience WAY too many times to count, yeah it’s pretty accurate

[@lordscrewtape2897]

And you can hear the CLOCK TICKING ON THE WALL...😭

[@PigSpeakers]

My dad whenever leaving church when I was a kid. Legit stopping the car in the parking lot to talk to people.

[@susragejr477]

@@PigSpeakers Bro has the maximum rizz

[@perfidioussinn]

I sang D'You Know What I Mean at a karaoke bar once, went back next week and it was removed from the catalogue.

[@emilyadams3228]

Thank you for your service. I would say you've done the Lord's work, but the existence of Oasis is proof that there is no god. Not a just and merciful one, anyway.

[@bloemkoolendestreetgang450]

@@emilyadams3228what did oasis do to you

[@zombiedoe3404]

now that can only mean one of two things...

[@GranTruismo4head]

Damn! You must have killed it.

[@carlcordova2332]

I play it regardless.

[@gabe_s_videos]

I just listened to the 2016 re-mixed version of "D'yknow What I Mean" and HOLY SHIT can you hear the difference!! The original has virtually NO bass, it's just this wall of high-pitched white noise that reminds me of trying to listen to Slipknot on crappy computer speakers. The 2016 version levels everything out perfectly so it sounds like an honest-to-god song.

[@KrisRN23935]

Gabriel Schleifer well, guess I can check that out.

[@rossgardner9412]

Yeah, it’s a pretty good re-mix, I had never heard the strings on the chorus until I heard the remix. That said, I still prefer the original, it’s not a great song, but to my mind its “Peak Oasis”, loud, brash and absolutely fucking mental. 10/10 from me.

[@gabe_s_videos]

@@rossgardner9412 I actually like that song a lot. I just love the scope of it, even if it's not really "about" anything. It reminds me of how much bigger the world seemed to me in 1997 (granted I was 6).

[@rossgardner9412]

Gabriel Schleifer yeah, it was released just after I turned 18, I remember it being a blinding hot summer and I had just finished my schooling and was about to head into proper work. Life definitely seemed full of possibilities and almost infinite in scope and Britain seemed like the world’s cultural epicentre. Oasis was a massive part of that, it’s difficult to really relay to a person who didn’t see it for themselves just how massive and important Oasis actually were. Even now I’m getting a big nostalgic feeling thinking about those days!

[@gabe_s_videos]

@@rossgardner9412 You're right, you'll probably never be able to convey ti me how important Oasis were because I attempted listening to their first album a few weeks ago and had to shut it off halfway through. Everything is too loud, I can't stand Liam's voice and all of the songs are generic 60s-style rock. I legitimately can't understand how THAT was one of the best albums of the 90s.

[@PepsiEnthusiast]

As a kid, I thought "All Around the World" was just an ad jingle for a cellphone network rather than a real song.

[@barbarakirk3064]

And Hear'Say ripped that off and All Saints' 'Never Ever' for Pure & Simple.

[@curly_wyn]

A ten minute long jingle! 😂

[@TruFalco]

I mean Cingular/AT&T used it for a few years there. In the mid 2000s.

[@nirvhannahgarden]

yeah, i remember hearing it on those old cingular ads back in... what, 2005/2006? had no idea it was oasis of all bands until like a few years ago lol

[@polla2256]

Cellphone network jingles in the 90's ? Wasn't a thing, at least not in the UK.

[@Harv72b]

I believe the working title for this album was "Lieutenant Paprika's Isolated Pancreas Group Band".

[@sudevsen]

Harv72b Suzy in the ether with emeralds

[@RiffChris]

With a small amount of assistance from my comrades

[@TimmyTickle]

"It was one score ago at this point in time, Lieutenant Paprika instructed the ensemble to perform!"

[@NJGuy1973]

I tapped the CNN app today, oh boy.

[@evanhubler8431]

Na I think it was “The Baje Album”

[@teddydog6229]

"A death march of peace and love" was one of the funniest sentences I've heard in a very long time.

[@freakfoxvevo7915]

That sounds like a badass song or band

[@emilyadams3228]

The definition of leftism.

[@angelaguilar497]

Someone made a comment years ago about how it sounds like the name of an emo band.

[@robertocaba5915]

@@emilyadams3228yes, very accurate

[@spoonuwu3195]

My dad played none stop Oasis in his car and as as a kid I distinctly remember hating All around the world with a passion.

[@kaelibw34]

For me it was Cher’s Life after love. Hate that bloody tune now.

[@atomicpunk2360]

@@kaelibw34 that song has always been shit lol

[@garydixon6315]

​@@kaelibw34 💯

[@paulanthony5274]

@@kaelibw34 Ahh nightmare, I feel sorry for your ears..

[@paulanthony5274]

@@kaelibw34 I've got it stuck in my head now, thanks 😂😂

[@benpooler5965]

Don't know if this album singlehandedly killed Britpop but 1997 was definitely the year Britpop became unfashionable. Blur and Radiohead went in very different directions and the only other notable Britpop record that year was Verve's Urban Hymns.

[@medes5597]

Wasn't Pulp's This is Hardcore 1997? That's a hell of a record. But then again, it's not the happy upbeat brit pop people expected then.

[@riahlexington]

It would be sad if they killed it

[@michaelkitchin9665]

Yeah, 1997/8 was when all the coke and misery really piled on. Blur brought out their self-titled and opened it with Beetlebum, The Verve peaked and then left for almost a decade, Suede didn't come back until 1999 and were never quite the same.

[@riahlexington]

Dylan McChald urban hymns was good. And I quite like blurs self-titles album. I wouldn’t call oasis Britpop tbh. I like Blur once they departed away

[@aandwdabest]

Dylan McChald urban hymns was a damn good album. I loved it

[@elizabetheowynbelle]

I think "All Around the World" could have been a decent song, if it were half the length and actually had a beginning, middle, and end. Instead, it's one long, long, LONG beginning... and it then mercifully ends.

[@jeremysears4263]

😂 great comment.

[@spencerraney4979]

If they faded the song out at the 5:55 mark, or just after seven minutes (like the video), and then put the rest later, it might have been more palatable.

[@dvt1393]

That's the main issue such with you whole album. Most of the songs, at their core, have brilliant elements. But, for some reason... *cough* cocaine *cough*... They were stretched well beyond what they should have been. Plus, the production and mixing bury and distort the melodies and hooks, by layering and layering overdubs. The vocal and guitar overdubs smother the songs themselves and make it so hard to hear that the hell is going on. If the songs had just been structured instead of allowing them to just repeat over and over, and if the mix had been stripped back to allow the songs to breath, I truly believe that this record could have been just as brilliant as their first two.

[@tomgalway8919]

There is a old as recording or the song and it’s only 3ish minutes long and it’s so much better the the album version

[@Musicradio77Network]

This song “All Around The World” makes Richard Harris’ “MacArthur Park”, and the Beatles’ “Hey Jude” a lot worst.

[@skrounst]

The first time I heard "All Around the World" I didnt know it was 9 minutes long and at like 3 and a half minutes when the key change happened I thought it was the last chorus (foolishly) and thought it was a FANTASTIC song... Then it goes on for another SIX MINUTES. I was laughing my ass off by the end at how absurd it was. Why didnt anyone stop them? Not one person in the recording process said anything to dissuade a catchy single from being nine and a half minutes long... Crazy..

[@joshuabrien2970]

Cause the people singing where all on coke and the people who would keep them in check where also having a date with magic flower as well

[@emilyadams3228]

They didn't know when to draw the line.

[@torgejh9189]

It's so completely absurd and decadent, I actually love it. Plus it's really fun to play live. Without studio magic, you can only make it so big before reaching your limitations, so after a certain point you can just stop giving a shit and make a jam out of it. It's what Oasis did live aswell.

[@skrounst]

@@torgejh9189 Yeah I agree, as a musician, and music nerd I love it. The double key change, so many layers that my 700 dollar headphones can't even separate them, the 5 minute long jam, it's fun stuff... But they probably lost a lot of money. They could have made the single 3-4 minutes, then when they played live jammed out like this, or released the 3 minute single, then had a redux version later in the album or something. Gotta respect the dedication though

[@inhabitantofgotoisland]

Apparently, Alan McGee (the CEO of their record company) and various other A&R people were concerned about the whole record but decided to keep their comments to themselves thinking that they're gonna sell 7 million copies of the album anyway.

[@glencurtis6052]

Wish I could record a train wreck album that sold 8,000,000+ copies

[@MuhammadSiregar]

@depressed cockroach yeah on the first day and by the end of week it sold 663.000, and now has reached 8 mil copies

[@davidl570]

@@MuhammadSiregar Damn, so is it now more successful than What's The Story Morning Glory?

[@LeterPerman]

@@davidl570 wtsmg has sold over 20 million copies.

[@davidl570]

@@LeterPerman Okay, thanks for the info! I KNEW What's the Story was still their most successful album.

[@reillywalker195]

@@davidl570 Yep. _Morning Glory_ was by far Oasis's best-selling album and still one of the best-selling British albums of all time, but _Be Here Now_ by no means sold poorly. It's their third to best-selling album at roughly 9 million copies, behind _Definitely Maybe_ at 15 million and _Morning Glory_ at 22.5 million but ahead of _Don't Believe the Truth_ (their best-selling post-1999 album) at 7 million.

[@jeremybean-hodges6397]

I went to listen to the album for the first time after watching this review, and I can absolutely confirm that it is 35 minutes' worth of music jam-packed into 75 minutes.

[@jeremybean-hodges6397]

Also: oh my God, the sheer amount of *sound* drenched over everything just makes it such a hard slog of an album. Some tracks have great ideas buried in there, but they are so, so, so buried.

[@Beamboy555]

@@jeremybean-hodges6397 if you’ve listened to it enough you know when to just skip. Changes the entire album

[@TheAdrift]

@@Beamboy555 I have a feeling that if someone edited together a version of this album where every song just fades out at the moment where you should skip it, that’d make it a lot better. I actually went and listened to It’s Getting Better (Man!!), and aside from the production still being ridiculous, I actually really liked it for the first half. Tone down the guitar overdubs and cut the song in half, I could jam to that shit all day

[@madcorndog]

@@TheAdrift It's getting better man is the only song I have a problem with the production with. It's so loud and as Noel said, "It's all chhhhhhh" but that's the one song on the album that should be that long. It uses that time to build up with solos and then throws the chorus back at you in the middle of the song. One of the best moments on the record.

[@jeremybean-hodges6397]

@@Beamboy555 that's a solid point but I do not plan on listening to it enough

[@TSFboi]

"Just great rock & roll!" - NME Is this the guy who gave Bubsy 3D the Gold X award?

[@SneedyKetler]

Lifechanging, those Bubsy games

[@Saramusvasque2838]

Well Dave...I guest I better give this album a listen it sounds like it's good.

[@DiscoBolante]

That's what we do best at NME. You better have a money-back guaranTEE!

[@narcoticundertow]

NME magazine is the worst

[@Beegstation]

Pilot's license? What for?

[@HZepp]

Oasis are like the soccer of rock music. Made in the UK, huge in Europe, a religion in South America, big in Japan, but only moderately big in North America.

[@TimmyTickle]

Fitting, given the Gallagher's Man City fandom

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

@@TimmyTickle as if we needed more confirmation of him being a certified chode

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

You did the “Big In Japan” on purpose

[@oculttheexegaming2509]

Also the hooliganism.

[@HearszAM]

So they were big/huge in all the important parts of the world then? Got it ;)

[@jimsy5530]

"Tossed off" means something different in the UK.

[@mrboerger1620]

Is it sexual... Or something?

[@paparika2095]

Mr Boerger yes

[@Jhewitt-ev6ye]

@@mrboerger1620 Wanking

[@FischerFilmStudio]

It’s about tossing salad mate, (but not the kind of salad you’re thinking).

[@duffman18]

@@FischerFilmStudio no that's the American meaning. In the UK to toss someone off means to give them a hand job. I remember when watching Lord of the rings the two towers in the cinema, everyone laughed when the dwarf bloke said to his elf friend "you'll have to toss me". I don't know how intentional a joke that was, I don't know if it has the same meaning in new Zealand, but yeah, it was hilarious at the time. Similar situations happened apparently when the avatar last airbender film was in UK cinemas, with the constant calling people a "bender" making everyone there crack up and turned the film into even more of a comedy than it already was.

[@Mr_DPZ]

Four years after this review was originally posted, the idea of Noel and Liam going to every single individual person in the world singing the chorus to "All Around the World" at them still makes me chuckle.

[@supidosan]

Any day now, it will be *my* turn to be serenaded !

[@heymistercarter.]

What makes it even funnier is that it’s Noel and Liam Gallagher, who are most famous for fighting constantly with each other, and still trade barbs at each other even after OASIS broke up, trying to get that kind of song out there. Let’s just say, of Todd’s hypothetical song titles for them, “Oy Liam You Wanker” sounds like one Noel would actually write, if he hasn’t already!

[@haidynwendlandt2479]

When they got to my house I was so pissed because I had planned on showering but now my afternoon was completely full

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

Oy Liam You Wanker! Is just Wibling Rivalry

[@adamweishaupt2846]

Be Here Now is a frustrating album. If Noel trimmed 20-25 minutes from it and ditched Magic Pie I think there's a very good 45-50 minute album hiding in there.

[@IgnorancEnArrogance]

Throw in "Going Nowhere" and "Stay Young" as well to replace the duds and you got a classic album right there.

[@adamweishaupt2846]

It's incredible how many Oasis b-sides are better than their album tracks, and even singles. I don't think any band has a better collection of b-sides.

[@IgnorancEnArrogance]

The Beatles, The Stones and The Smiths all have great B-sides too. Noel says he learned to understand the value and art of good b-sides from these guys. Oasis and Radiohead were the last big bands to honor that tradition. You could also say these bands were also making the same mistake of not making certain B-sides the singles or album tracks instead.

[@Logan912]

Adam Weishaupt "I don't think any band has a better collection of b-sides." Smashing Pumpkins easily especially considering a lot of their B-sides from both Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie are better than a lot of the songs from those albums, and those albums are both already fantastic (I'd go as far to say that Mellon Collie is one of the Top 5 best double albums of all time.) As far as The Beatles? Idk, their A-sides were definitely better in general.

[@ando5581]

KrisJM1234 Muse has a pretty good collection of B-sides as well

[@callanfox3713]

I showed this to mom, and she said "oh I had this on CD!" and for the whole video she went "don't remember this track, don't remember this track, don't remember this track, don't remember this track, Oh, I like 'Don't go away' don't remember this track."

[@TotoDG]

I think her brain just suppressed the memory of those tracks, lmao.

[@joachimb5721]

I had this in CD, I haven’t listened to it in a while but I have remembered most tracks. And also, it has a handful of songs that I really like. I‘m not even an Oasis fan.

[@cactopodes6315]

my parents were blur fans in the 90s, to the point that they saw blur and oasis as direct rivals. i ended up a blur fan too, and when my parents brought up oasis i wanted to see what they were about. my parents showed me all around the world. i made it through the first fifty seconds.

[@RobertJW]

Your parents are calculating geniuses, as Blur fans to pick THAT song on THIS album to introduce you to Oasis. That’s hilarious.

[@paulrainey4990]

Wow, I remember the Blur and Oasis rivalry. And I'm from the U.S. I can only imagine it was pretty wild in the U.K.

[@bigtombowski]

I was the perfect age at the rivalry in the right place. I bought all their albums when they came out... in fact my first cd ever was Blur Parklife. I actually bought be here now (and the singles from it too). I knew what was up right away

[@riahlexington]

What’s the story morning glory is amazing tho

[@omegafilming]

Gotta say, Be Here Now makes for excellent Blur propaganda

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

They were so huge in the UK that when Oasis was touring the rest of the world, the tribute band No Way Sis would fill arenas.

[@chernobylcoleslaw6698]

😆😆😆😆

[@daviel9431]

Seems like half of the album is Oasis doing their best Oasis impression and the other half is Oasis doing their best Beatles impression.

[@zbr76]

All of Oasis is them doing their best (worst) Beatles impression.

[@NessNT]

Gator Zen so sick of this fucking comparison, oasis sounds nothing like the beatles.

[@srj34]

Great summary.

[@troodon1096]

They were much better trying to sound like Oasis than like the Beatles unfortunately. Not that that's much of an accomplishment.

[@beth1679]

Oasis idolised the Beatles, there's nothing wrote in taking inspiration from a band you adore and admire. Oasis never sounded like the Beatles atall when you don't know anything about them or music in general just throw the Beatles in, yh they took words and phrases if anything they were more similar to Stone Roses especially their early music and Rolling stones and the Sex Pistola

[@654jimbob654]

Here in the UK, Oasis were very much hailed as The Beatles for a new generation. After all, both wrote huge anthemic rock songs and had equally huge personalities to match. The difference is that The Beatles had so many more strings to their bow when it came to songwriting: they could go on proggy tangents and fully embrace the esoteric. Oasis were exceptional at writing big no-nonsense rock songs but Be Here Now definitely exposed their shortcomings. Blur and Pulp were the other big Britpop bands and they've both shown themselves to be more varied in musicality than Oasis. That doesn't mean that Oasis are bad. Even in 2023, they're still a British institution and literal millions of people would be trying to get tickets if they reformed tomorrow. The real problem was that Oasis spawned an entire generation of British guitar bands who just... weren't very good. That probably contributed to rock's slide into irrelevance in modern mainstream music.

[@thevale2456]

Spot on

[@jimmymeridian5174]

I really feel Oasis could've done what Radiohead and Damon Albarn (creating the Gorillaz) did, and completely scrub their canvas. Damon Albarn and Radiohead both left the britpop era behind and became famous even more. And even though you can change location, worth dynamic, budgeting, you still can't change people, and the Gallagher brothers were coked up, completely done with each other and couldn't stand making music anymore. What they personally should've done was take a break, cool off, count their winnings, SPEND TIME APART, and decide if they wanted to keep doing this. And if they did, come back either together or separately with broader horizons to share with the world.

[@Anomaly188]

Kinda like how every wannabe band in the US in the early to mid 90s wanted to be Pearl Jam or Nirvana but had none of the talent.

[@grief8060]

couldnt agree more. i like Oasis but man Bloc Party was right, they really did create a generation of idiots who thought they could play guitar. makes me wish thet had a post-britpop album like Blur's Self Titled or Pulp's This is Hardcore that showed them branching out from their typical formula

[@TimmyTickle]

"literal millions of people would be trying to get tickets if they reformed tomorrow." Are you psychic?

[@dougbennett8592]

Yep, this album was 2 kilo bag of cocaine that gained sentience and recorded an album produced by another 2 kilo bag of cocaine. Brilliant, I tell ya. Brillant!

[@mr.anonymous5501]

History has shown us that heroin makes much better music than cocaine.

[@tgletgle9980]

@@mr.anonymous5501 tell that to Fleetwood Mac.

[@mr.anonymous5501]

@@tgletgle9980 Fleetwood Mac done their fair share of opiates, but I'm not saying you can't make good music while on cocaine. Some obviously can, mostly those who could while sober, if they got out of their own way. I do agree that Oasis were more cocaine users than heroin, chained to a mirror and a razor blade. I'm not sure if they used heroin at all. I don't think they did. But heroin's impact on the music business is legendary. Everyone from the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and James Taylor, through Guns 'n' Roses, T-Rex, Aerosmith, and the RHCP, into Alice in Chains, Nirvana, and Sound Garden, past Megadeth, Slipknot, and Pantera, had members who were addicted to heroin at one point. So many bands actually, I don't want to stop listing great bands, so I'm just going to stop, knowing there is plenty more. Also, Grateful Dead and Phish. And these are just rock based bands. The message would max out before I was 1/16 done, if I mentioned other genres like jazz. Although, remember kids, drugs aren't cool! I spent ten years of my life on that shit, so I'm in no way glorifying their use. As I say, I think there's guys could have done just as well, or even better, while sober if they had the confidence.

[@R3stlessNWild]

@@mr.anonymous5501 Somewhere in the great beyond, Lemmy is laughing his ass off at your nonsense.

[@Mirokuofnite]

Nah, that would be Yes Please! By Happy Mondays

[@gavincraddock5772]

I'm a huge Oasis fan (from the UK). You got this mostly spot on - the fact that they didnt really want to do an album, the lazy song writing, the cocaine fuelled excess, all correct. I'd never noticed about DYKWIM being a throw away line but, yep, it is. My only input would be that Stand By Me is a quality tune, you skipped over how good that is, plus the album could have been sooo much better with some of the single B sides swapped in - have you ever heard Stay Young for example? Why they thought Magic Pie was better than that I have no idea. BTW, fun fact - Noel was lazy songwriting and looking for a rhyme for "passer by" in a rhyming dictionary but his coked up brain misread "magpie" as "magic pie".

[@jennteal5265]

Please tell me I'm not the only one who dearly loves Falling Down...that one song is a masterpiece

[@spencerraney4979]

Clearly it was a mistake putting “I Hope, I Think, I Know, when Stay Young sounds similar, and is clearly the better song.

[@pilardavg]

Stay Young or The Fame were definitely better.

[@TheAdrift]

I personally think “It’s Getting Better (Man!!)” would have been right up there with their classic tracks if they toned down the ridiculous guitar production that runs rampant through the whole album, and ended it after 5 minutes instead of 7.

[@usablefiber]

Jenn Teal you aren’t, that song is killer.

[@Falxifer95]

Something not a lot of people realize about how this record was the death knell for Britpop is that it came out after both Blur's self titled and Radiohead's OK Computer, and afterwards, The Verve released Urban Hymns, so even if Oasis had made a better record, there was no way they would still be as big as they had been after 1997 since in the same year they were out-Britpop-ed by The Verve, their rivals radically changed their sound and achieved success in the US, and Radiohead completely redefined rock music to the point it exposed how Oasis, even at their best, were just big and loud.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

You also had albums like Radiator by Super Furry Animals, Vanishing Point by Primal Scream, Songs From Northern Britain by Teenage Fanclub and Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space by Spiritualized, all emphasising the lack of quality and imagination in Oasis.

[@paulanthony5274]

"Oasis at their best were just big and loud" Alot of people would disagree with you there!!

[@TerribleResults]

So it's like "Nirvana killed my career" but slightly later?

[@_Pauper_]

@@TerribleResultsNirvana being dead is what MADE British rock any success in the States. Checkout the documentary Be Here Now, great doc about all those bands from Massive Attack to Pulp to Blur so on…

[@McLarenMercedes]

@@paulanthony5274 "Alot of people would disagree with you there!!" "Alot of people" is no argument. "Alot of people" thought the world was flat. And "A lot of people" still think it is. "A lot of people smoke" - and it's *still* not good for you. "A lot of people". An idiot's argument. Argument ad populum is a fallacy.

[@turnupthesun81]

Don’t forget The Masterplan (The B-sides) was as good as their first two albums The 20th Anniversary release of this album contains the stripped down demos which sound a lot better.

[@GergelAni]

@@turnupthesun81 Ah, right. I have them, mate. Have the cd's and the LP's as well. I love them! 👍

[@EmoBearRights]

Some Might Say had better b sides than that song.

[@rockaway0beach]

"D'ya know what I mean?" looks solely intended to be played at concerts like a big warm up opener. Like singing it to everybody there, right there right then; and they would surely know what it means. Like an anthem. If it sings alone, it's weird. On a record, it's weird. And as the rest of the album that keeps putting things over the other and getting bigger and bigger and messier and messier, it reaches out like a scary, schizoid experience. That remembered the best description this album has ever had: "Yes, we made a concept album. The concept is "we did cocaine" "

[@jidder57]

Literally sounds like an episode of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"

[@MalMotorDedo]

This was Oasis's Station to Station, but w/o the explosive, artistic and flamethrowing talent that Bowie showed while on cocaine.

[@jidder57]

@@MalMotorDedo Hahaha so true

[@EpicB]

I think Do You Know What I Mean is the perfect example of what Todd calls an "I'm back, bitch" single: A big meaningless song reaffirming how big the performers are.

[@rockaway0beach]

@@EpicB Yes, that is true. But I think both ideas overlap in many ways

[@Kinitawowi]

"I think I've said something like this before, but if I were making the Oasis biopic, it would begin with a scene of Noel and Liam as kids, Liam feeling sad for being beaten up just because he acted like an asshole, Noel cheering him up by playing a new song he just wrote 'All around the world / gotta spread the word / you know it's gonna be okay.' 'You know Liam, one day we are going to be Rock and Roll stars, and we're going to turn this song into the biggest song ever. At several of the early shows they play stripped down versions of the song, at the recording of both Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory they're asked if they want to include the anthem. 'Not yet' says Noel. 'Not until we have the budget to make it fucking right.' The film culminates with a painstaking reconstruction of the recording process of All Around the World, done in black and white, cinema verité style, but also imitating the famous bell-making scene from Andrei Rublev (it goes without saying that my biopic is a 3 hour monster like Nixon or something). Final scene of film is a one-take of Noel, dejected, angry at Liam, coked out of his mind, feeling the dream has gone to shit, putting on the song, the masterpiece he dreamt about since he was a kid, and over 9 painfull [sic] minutes realizing just how bad it is, just how much he fucked it up. For the last couple of minutes he is bawling his eyes out, lying on the floor, snot coming out of his nose. Roll credits, soundtracked by Country House." - Frederik B, on an ILX forum

[@justinsixx90]

I'd pay to see it!!

[@andrewpappas9311]

That sounds awesome, and the Blur song at the end is just hilarious

[@grief8060]

jesus ive never read a more soul crushing biopic pitch, i never thought i would

[@dannyhowell3184]

It’s hard to imagine how big this album was in the UK. It was released on a Thursday for some reason, but from that Thursday to Sunday it had sold 700,000 copies. To put that in perspective, the closest to this was Michael Jackson’s Bad album that sold 350,000 copies in 7 days. Unreal.

[@TimmyTickle]

It was released on a Thursday due to fears import copies from the US would arrive in the UK before the official release date there

[@Champiness]

“The lyrics are teeny-poppy. But there are three key changes towards the end. Imagine how much better ‘Hey Jude’ would have been with three key changes towards the end.” - Noel Gallagher, giving my favorite quote in music history, about “All Around The World”

[@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks]

Fuck this

[@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks]

To repost Douglas Adams quote again: “People now ask if Oasis are as good as the Beatles. I don’t think they are as good as the Rutles.”

[@ByeByeDeadName]

Key changes is the hack way of ending a song/making a song sound bigger than it is when you don’t know how to. Paul would have never made a song as important to him as “Hey Jude” include three key changes, because Paul knows that’s lazy writing

[@Bramhallthefifth]

Paul was smart with his key changes. Listen to "Penny Lane" and tell me if you noticed that the verse was in B and the chorus in A before the chorus shifted back to B.

[@yakovhadash]

JK HGGNS I think the original quote is sarcastic.

[@LimeGreenTeknii]

I kind of want somebody to make an animation for All Around The World where at first they're marching and all happy, and as it goes on, the more tired and insane they get, the trip just getting to be too much to take.

[@GeoffreyGentryMusic]

LimeGreenTeknii That actually sounds like a good idea. And as the video goes on"you can see the increasing hate between the Gallagher brothers.

[@kaydwessie296]

This is honestly a music video I'd make and now I'm throwing it into the idea pile for if I get off my ass and try making those again

[@LimeGreenTeknii]

K. Charrette Please update me if and when you do it!

[@TheMadwomen]

K. Charrette Dew it! DOOOOOOO IT! Plz

[@Ablequerq]

Just like the whole album.

[@andrewortiz1703]

"Death March of Peace and Love" now that's a song waiting to be written.

[@angelaguilar4279]

Sounds like an emo band.

[@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786]

@@angelaguilar4279 Emo bands aren't self-aware enough to write a song like this lol

[@drpibisback7680]

@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 Emo bands love long and wacky song titles, that's exactly the kind of thing I'd expect from an Emo band in the 2000's.

[@becauseimafan]

@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 😂😂

[@liamw6562]

I’m defo nicking that

[@weilim10]

Noel Gallagher's DVD commentary for the All Around The World music video is hilarious. "Anybody watching this video, I'd advise them to mow the garden because this takes forever." "Is... Is that a man with legs made of sausages?!?!"

[@BlueKunai]

"Piss off, you wankers" is a beautiful way to end a video.

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

Honestly when Todd said it I giggled

[@alanpennie8013]

It's very *Oasis*.

[@elbermoramontero2769]

So the lead single of Be Here Now can be seen as a "I'm back bitch" song, right?

[@riyansyafii5895]

Do u know what I mean??

[@riyansyafii5895]

Do u know what I mean??

[@ConnorLockhartYGO]

@@ms.horrible9510 In the long run, Blur won. Oops.

[@DrZuluGaming]

@@ConnorLockhartYGO Hell, one of its members will create Gorillaz. If that's not a win, I don't know what else.

[@jidder57]

@@irvinglambert9316 "13" beats those two Oasis albums by a long mile. You should check it out.

[@freeparking301]

When Todd introduces “D’ya Know What I Mean?” And says it sounds like Oasis I’m surprised he didn’t say it sounds too much like Oasis since it uses the exact same chords as “Wonderwall.”

[@Joeynivek]

I just checked and fuck yes it does

[@isaacpriestley]

I really wanted him to talk about that! Think of the balls it takes to release a new single with the exact same chords as your massive worldwide hit!

[@RobiticDuck]

*carefully listens to the instrumental. Starts slowly singing Wonderwalls intro lyrics* hey....yeah, your right! Y'Know what I mean?

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

Nirvana’s “Dumb” uses the same chords in the verse as Smells Like Teen Spirit. Could be considered hacky but I personally find it brilliant that Kurt found a way to recycle his most famous chord progression into a new song and not only make it good enough to chart but also call it “Dumb”.

[@Junkiescum]

@@cognitivedissonance8406 I totally agree. I think Kurt did it on purpose almost as a statement. Oasis was just lazy tho lol

[@bren7431]

Trying not to laugh hysterically at Todd losing his mind to all around the world at the end💀

[@AslanKyoya1776]

Does anyone else get cringy flashbacks to 2006 whenever they hear All Around The World when AT&T had that song in every commercial?

[@fauxrowsdower7610]

honoshikun I COULDNT FIGURE OUT WHERE I’D HEARD IT BEFORE BLESS YOU STRANGER

[@Trekkie155]

“...It’s more like the last hour of a party that’s raging long after the fun stopped, and everyone should’ve gone home...” As much I love Oasis and actually enjoyed BHN, Todd knocked it out of the ball park with his assessment on the album’s sound. Best episode of Trainwreckords, by far ♥️

[@andysorensen1737]

A song of the Gallagher boys arguing CHARTED? God help us if someone has audio tape of Paul and John going at it.

[@duffman18]

Andy Sorensen Watch the film Let It Be if you want that

[@beth1679]

Andy Sorensen 😂😂 watch the full tape its fucking brilliant. Its absolutely hilarious, the Gallagher brothers are arguing over some nonsense shit.

[@riahlexington]

Andy Sorensen I would buy that

[@jonatgan8546]

like fighting or…?

[@daviebananas1735]

Does “going at it” mean something different than what it means to me?

[@GeetarSi]

The big thing that wasn’t mentioned was The Masterplan, as it’s kinda the other half of the story. There was this great follow up to Morning Glory that was falling into place piece by piece but Noel just didn’t listen to anyone’s advice and insisted on using the material for B-Sides and as filler songs. That record is the follow up that could’ve been, and it’s tantalising to think of how it might have turned out had they stowed the tunes, taken a break and spent some time recording and polishing them. Instead we got All Around The Fucking World repeated 6,000 times!

[@flatjesus]

That's interesting. I always thought The Masterplan was the closest they came to matching the quality of the first two records. Fade Away is probably my favorite Oasis song.

[@1998_MIN]

Seriously, "Acquiesce" is an amazing song and I'm sure it would have been huge if it had been the lead single for this thing, instead of being buried behind the release of All Around the World

[@shutuptravis5609]

Suede and blur definitely changed direction at this time so that helped kill britpop

[@ThierryRocksTV]

The Travis albums The Man Who and The Invisible Band were so good

[@richardturpin3665]

Travis and Coldplay happend stereophonics got bigger verve hit big. Blur moved on into some of their best tunes beatlebum song 2. Suede never even noticed what they was doing. R&B hip hop started taking over.

[@NotQuiteFirst]

Radiohead and The Verve changed the whole scene in 97, and Oasis were old hat.

[@MattJames1958]

Everyone else had moved on. Ok Computer, Blur and Urban Hymns all came out in 97, Coming Up by Suede and Everything Must Go by the Manics came out the year before. Oasis ended up left behind and sounding like a parody

[@EclecticoIconoclasta]

@@richardturpin3665 Around 97 both in the US and the UK music turned more pop in general. In the US you had boybands and pop divas like Britney and Christina Aguilera and even Will Smith came back while in the UK you had the Spice Girls. As far as rock in the US it went very bad with post-grunge crap like Creed, terrible Nu metal (Limp Biskit) and pop punk. In the UK so called post-britpop was good but much less exciting that britpop had been unless you were melancolic (coldplay) or intelectual existentialist (Radiohead) while Blur first got inspired by US indie (selftitled album) and later made an awesome melancolic psychedelic album (13). In general I think i like the early 90s over the late 90s.

[@PuppetMasterIX]

Don't look back in anger. Unless you're looking back at this album. Then by all means.

[@clintbeast-bud8119]

PuppetMaster9 you know nothing about oasis. This album isn't their best and it's not that good but they did better over time and made some good records (not as good as dm and wtsmg)

[@lucaslonchampt613]

harry drewitt can't take a joke eh?

[@buckleygeneration]

harry drewitt So someone comments on this album being bad... in the comments section for a video ABOUT how this album is bad... and your response is “you know nothing about Oasis”? What does that even mean? Did you expect people to be praising fucking Be Here Now? Because I *do* know Oasis, I know their discography inside and out, and let me state, for the record: Despite 2-3 great songs, Be Here Now is a fucking atrocious album.

[@nox4298]

@@buckleygeneration "Be Here Now is a fucking atrocious album." Except that's completely subjective.

[@joaquinlezcano2372]

​@@clintbeast-bud8119you are delusional, the only good record better than this one is the last one, which it can be a 7. Then, none of the post Be Here Now records are higher than 6

[@SpewChoob]

The same UK music journos that loved this were panning OK Computer a year earlier. Journalists love a bit of self-preservation.

[@MrMcKane]

I think the record label was leaning hard on the music mags like... "Oh, your reviewing Be Here Now? Well you best not say anything negative about it or your never getting any interview time with the Gallagher's ever again"

[@SpewChoob]

​@@MrMcKane Fair enough but the same bum licking journos still panned OK Computer because they are clueless and just want to appear trendy.

[@badgasaurus4211]

@@SpewChoob They also panned What’s the story morning glory for the same reason as you describe

[@TimmyTickle]

@@badgasaurus4211 But that album was actually good

[@badgasaurus4211]

@@TimmyTickle Which one? OK Computer and What’s The Story are both excellent

[@MrMacbridemax]

Melodically the album is actually very strong. It has more hooks than most bands manage to muster in a career. But it's massively overlong, overproduced and generally obnoxious. Oasis songs always had a fair bit of gibberish in them prior to this, but they managed to sell it artistically. Not here, the balance is off by too much. It's a shame, because there's a very good album in there with a different edit.

[@JoelWolstencroft]

It’s a shame that their relevance dropped after this point. Don’t Believe The Truth and Dig Out Your Soul had some amazing tunes on it.

[@boywonders]

DBTT is awesome! Mucky Fingers is a great song

[@dejotate]

Yes! Those two albums deserve way more recognition than they get.

[@mzumii457]

Oasis had some great records after Be Here Now

[@HedeccaTamer]

No one appreciates The Importance Of Being Idle as much as they should

[@ezzong]

Dig Out Your Soul is a great farewell album, and an amazing heavier rock album in its own right.

[@SonicMTD]

I actually really like this album. I like it for all the reasons people hate it: It's long, overindulgent, drowning in guitars, and filled to the brim with cocaine. A perfect time capsule of Britpop and the late 90's. I became so influenced by Oasis and this album I spent 2 years singing in a faux british accent (despite being Canadian). That being said, years later I still have no defence for Magic Pie... That song is rubbish.

[@beth1679]

Listen to the live version of magic pie Noel sung in 1997 you'll change your mind, I aswell hated that songs for so long untill I found the live version.

[@riahlexington]

Interesting I know someone who loves magic pie

[@duffman18]

I wonder if Magic Pie was named after and was about the funny story Lennon told about how he came up with the name for the Beatles. And Paul McCartney had just 6 months before that released an entire album based on that story called Flaming Pie, and it's one of the best solo albums by any beatle, and with oasis being huge fans and being coked out of their minds, maybe they did it as a tribute. I dunno. The song ain't _that_ bad to my ears

[@realm23x73]

@@beth1679 why would there be a live version of an entire album..

[@peteaxe2067]

@@realm23x73 she didn't say there was?

[@seanstott4402]

Smh Todd using a cockney accent when Oasis are manc

[@Rock-iw7ov]

Brits are Brits

[@gallagherisgod5853]

Rock21 no

[@dbssufferer]

@@Rock-iw7ov you sound ignorant saying this

[@Rock-iw7ov]

@Joel WW I understand that completely, I was just messing around with the guy who pointed out that Todd didn't know the difference between British accents as an American, so probably wouldn't know the regional dialects of Britain

[@leikfroakies]

@@Rock-iw7ov You'd get stabbed if you said that in Manchester😂

[@aarphotos5]

The songs on Be Here Now aren’t bad songs at their core. Had they stripped some of the guitars back, made the songs reasonable lengths and swapped Magic Pie and Fade In-Out for Acquiesce and The Masterplan (and maybe also swapped something else for Stay Young) it would have been a killer album

[@n1thmusic229]

Stay Young was originally supposed to be on the record but Noel in his finite wisdom decided it’d be better to put Magic Pie on there

[@daviebananas1735]

@@aarphotos5 Acquiesce and The Masterplan had been released as B-Sides years before though. They were already very popular songs with fans.

[@aarphotos5]

@@daviebananas1735 They should’ve been saved for an album realistically. Both songs were strong enough to have been singles in their own right, Noel was ridiculous to put them out as B-sides

[@TheFallenColumn]

D'Ya Know What I Mean is also literally the same chords as Wonderwall...exactly the same. Acoustic versions of this song start out exactly like Wonderwall.

[@luiscarlosarenas9370]

This. The guys just changed the lyrics while stoned and added layers to make it seem bigger

[@Nap1300]

And Noel had the balls to say Green Day ripped them off when Boulevard of Broken Dreams used the same chord changes. I think that's what pisses me off the most about this album, odd as that sounds.

[@GeoNeilUK]

"And Noel had the balls to say Green Day ripped them off when Boulevard of Broken Dreams used the same chord changes. I think that's what pisses me off the most about this album, odd as that sounds. " Well, Boulevard of Broken Dreams was a better song than D'You what I mean? Perhaps Noel was hurt that he didn't get all the royalties to that song the way The Rolling Stones got all the royalties to The Verve's Bittersweet Symphony (a fact that gets in the way of me loving and adoring the Rolling Stones)

[@duffman18]

GeoNeilUK To be fair, it literally is the same as the rolling stones song. Just slowed down and using the orchestral version as the backing track. Though it cut out the best bit, the chorus. The stones version of the song is way better, has way more energy. Maybe I'm just a bit sick of bittersweet symphony being way overplayed for the last two decades

[@GeoNeilUK]

"Maybe I'm just a bit sick of bittersweet symphony being way overplayed for the last two decades" Well, if the Stones are licensing the song, I remember Richard Ashcroft being less than pleased about the tune he was getting no royalties for being used to flog average cars (Don't buy Vauxhall cars, they're shite!)

[@MattJames1958]

Thinking about that British indie/rock scene, everyone else had moved on. Ok Computer, Blur, Word Gets Around (Stereophonics) and Urban Hymns (The Verve) all came out in 97, Spiritualized were doing some great stuff, Coming Up by Suede and Everything Must Go by the Manics had come out the year before. Oasis ended up left behind and sounding like a parody

[@MrSeeker42]

Thank Heavens for The Verve! Loved Urban Hymns!

[@alm5266]

@@MrSeeker42 A Northern Soul was even better. History is an incredible song.

[@saintnicole3209]

everything must go is literally one of the greatest albums of all time like i can't explain it. the manics completely turned around their sound yet managed to keep their intellectual and emotionally lyricism.

[@wallacegrommet9343]

Supergrass?

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

At least they didn’t try (and fail) to rap like Madonna did. American Life as a Trainwreckords episode would be a good coda to Cinemadonna. Be Here Now is nothing a remix can’t fix, but even back then, I remember All Around The World not being the epic centerpiece they wanted it to be. The Masterplan would’ve worked much better as a third album.

[@gabe_s_videos]

American Life is one of the only Madonna albums I've ever owned. It also came out just around the time I was getting into music on my own terms rather than just stuff my parents liked, so I have a soft spot for it.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

You can't remix shit lyrics.

[@NowhereMan7]

They couldn't release the Masterplan as a third album because most songs were already released on singles. They wanted to be like the Beatles so badly they released top tier singles like Whatever/Its Good To Be Free/Half A World Away. But unlike the Beatles it came at the expense of running out of songs for their albums. They definitely had enough good songs for four classic albums. Not sure what they would have done for singles in that case though. Even if they just had live B sides noone would complain. Too bad I guess

[@nfbuckeye]

I remember rushing to pick up the CD the day it came out. Rushed home, tossed it in the old tower stereo system with gigantic stack speakers expecting a rapturous listening experience. By track 3 I was like Ralphie and “Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine.” I stopped it playing, looked up, and uttered “son of a bitch…”

[@creakyboards8517]

Also, Oasis has been putting Beatles references in their songs since DM. Wonderwall is literally named after a George Harrison album.

[@EclecticoIconoclasta]

Wonderwall was a movie Harrison wrote the soundtrack for

[@cremetangerine82]

Creaky Boards “Be Here Now” is a phrase said by...you guessed it, George Harrison. Supersonic mentions “Yellow Submarine”.

[@DeLuxe2275]

@@cremetangerine82 maybe John Lennon?

[@cremetangerine82]

Tony Matveev Good call! Although I was thinking of the George Harrison song.

[@NYPDWeatherman]

Morning glory namedrops Tomorrow Never Knows

[@heymistercarter.]

This was seriously the only Trainwreckords request on Patreon? I'm surprised no one wanted to hear your thoughts on albums like Chinese Democracy, Lulu, The Beginning, Scream, St. Anger, and so on. And who knows, maybe you'll be featuring America, the latest Thirty Seconds to Mars album, on this series. But, I guess we can save those for another day.

[@luiscarlosarenas9370]

Oh, The Beginning. I have to see Todd rip that album apart.

[@s.bakyhnh1756]

Chinese Democracy came out 15 years since the last time people gave a shit about GnR.

[@magnoliasalazar]

Lulu is such a great request!!

[@davidclaiborne6547]

>Chinese Democracy Could've been the greatest album ever made and it still would've been seen as a disappointment with all the hype. The fact that it's a mediocre album just made it worse. The Duke Nukem Forever of music. >Lulu It's a Lou Reed album that just so happens to have Metallica on it. It's a vanity project. >The Beginning Agreed >Scream The Chris Cornell album? I'm not well-versed in Chris Cornell's discography, so no comment. >St. Anger Agreed. >The new 30STM album Oh god are they still a thing? I legit haven't heard a song of theirs since...2010ish. And OH MY GOD JARED FUCKING LETO IS THEIR LEAD SINGER WHAT THE FUCK HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS EARLIER?

[@rouka120]

Boy, thirty seconds to mars is still going? Even after Leto got shat on after suicide squad? I’d thought he’d go good on his promise and go live a cave after that embarrassment.

[@drawntoicehockey]

Todd's interpretation of the Mancunian accent: Cockney

[@yodasscrotum]

All Americans seem to think everyone in England speaks with a cockney accent..

[@bombercountyblues]

@@yodasscrotum true,, but to be fair, could you tell someone from Seattle and someone from Chicago apart from their accents??

[@avosmash2121]

You know, i don't think even we Americans could do that very well either.

[@Flowtail]

Kinda got the sense that Todd was trying to portray their cocky snottiness more than an accent Hence, a ‘cock’ney accent

[@lachlach3449]

There was definitely a dash of Australian as well

[@oddfuture7916]

"And Wonderwall was already permanently etched into the cultural dna." Damn thats definitely accurate.

[@wallacegrommet9343]

And it so predictable and shallow, but pretends to be otherwise

[@CazTheGamerGuy]

I guess you could say that Oasis' time...just dried up. Their desert's got to miss the rain something fierce.

[@Skeptik727]

Caz did they at least get the girl? 👧

[@awookieandagerman]

Someone aught to bless the rains...

[@jonathanrosaler8286]

Their original name was The Rain before Noel funny enough

[@robinchesterfield42]

(claps)

[@briannagarrett6637]

Caz well you know what they say once you're so high up,the only place left to go is down but they literally were really high the time

[@30453trains]

Coming from an avowed Oasis fan, I have to say I enjoyed this. - ‘Magic Pie’ is probably the worst Oasis song ever. It’s too long, it’s slow, turgid, takes forever to actually start, and when it does kick in, it shreds your eardrums to bits in a blitz of overedubs, all tied in a neat bow made of some of Noel’s worst lyrics. Noel always trod a very fine line between lyrics that were simplistic yet insightful; and just plain dumb. ‘Magic Pie’ is unfortunately in the latter camp. - The ‘Spinal Tap’ levels of dysfunction Todd refers to- bear in mind this album came out almost exactly a year after the Loch Lomond and Knebworth concerts that proved to be Oasis’ peak in popularity, Oasis eroded a lot of that goodwill by following Knebworth up mere weeks later with the infamous MTV Unplugged show where Liam cried off (not a total disaster, but sure as hell looked unprofessional) and then the infamous tour of the US were Liam didn’t show up the early shows, turned in poor performances when he did show up, before Noel had enough walked off the tour, causing the rest of it to be cancelled. So they kind of ‘on notice’ even before BHN came out, and even an album on a par with their first two wouldn’t necessarily have been a big seller there. - One of things I’m most annoyed at is Noel’s utter refusal to take any responsibility for the album’s shortcomings. When pressed on it, he falls back on the same old defence of ‘I don’t remember any of it, don’t know what happened’ and tries to pass it off as rock n roll excess taking its’ toll. To compare it to another follow up to a massive album by a British band- and one I see gets suggested for Trainwreckords quite a lot- Pink Floyd’s ‘The Final Cut’. It’s usually regarded as, at best, a step down in quality from ‘The Wall’ and an outright dud at worst. But TFC’s main songwriter Roger Waters- a man who can certainly give Noel a run in the Arrogant Musician stakes- never stops defending the album, the creative choices he made and is absolutely prepared to own that record’s standing for good or bad. I wish Noel would stop pretending the album didn’t exist and actually own his mistake.

[@pinkmazohyst]

This comment should have more likes, or at the very least, deserves to be pinned

[@billclinton6040]

@@pinkmazohyst Stopped reading at BHN smh

[@jasonhicks3364]

What you on about, I heard Noel criticise this album countless times

[@jidder57]

Ngl, The Final Cut is a fucking great album. The title track's guitar solo is one of David Gilmour's best efforts.

[@clouds-rb9xt]

I like it. That's okay. It is what it is, it's loud, it's insane. It does have it's flaws but, it is what it is. It wouldn't be "Be Here Now" if it wasn't flawed

[@liamh1117]

Even tho it goes on forever, Stand By Me is still a tune...best song on there. Also, Do you Know What I mean...Kinda a fucking ode to the attitude of the band. 2 good songs on ere

[@davidjames579]

From Live Forever to goes on forever

[@darwis4769]

right, i just listen to the first 3 minutes and then stop because the song just repeats itself a lot

[@kcurran9913]

"I Hope, I Think, I Know" is also a decent song but it needs to be trimmed and have half the guitar layers cut.

[@madcorndog]

The best songs on that album are don't go away, stand by me, My big mouth

[@centuriesofsound]

Stand By Me has a fantastic hook. Unfortunately it's the hook from All The Young Dudes.

[@evandemers3753]

This album is like the Oasis version of St. Anger: songs that should've been 4 minutes long, stretched out to 7 or 8 minutes for no good reason, awful mixing, conflict between band members, etc.

[@theroguecybersoldier2629]

At least this album has no trash can snare

[@darwinblinks]

well put.I don't like Oasis at all so it's all shite to me but right on comparison

[@cutecobra9696]

Metallica isn't really pop music, so I doubt that it'll get a trainwreckord. But it would be awesome if it did.

[@ajmoore2201]

One Hot Minute by the Chili Peppers also comes to mind

[@RPGManoWar]

@@cutecobra9696 WELL WOULD YA BELIEVE IT

[@StupidHead-ur6um]

I've been waiting for you to talk about Oasis and Wonderwall in someway for so long. It almost feels like you made this series so you'd get the chance.

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

Their next album was a compilation of b_sides. Their b sides made up for any other band's best record. They were that good at their peak.

[@Logan912]

You could say that same about Smashing Pumpkins' Pisces Iscariot which is also a collection of B-sides, and that was *before* their peak which came at their next album.

[@LordTyph]

This is the song that never ends... It goes on and on my friends...

[@Jules-cv3tq]

They just wanted to be known for having great b sides like The Beatles The could have exchanged some of the b-sides for songs like Shakermaker in Definitely Maybe and Hey Now in WTSMG

[@B3Band]

@@Jules-cv3tq Isn't the point that the OP is trying to make?

[@usefulvidiots7869]

LOL what a crock of shit some lame assed pop.

[@EdJonesVideos]

Stand By Me is now probably best known in the UK for appearing on adverts for a bank. This somehow feels appropriate

[@uthertheking]

I love how he looks like he's singing while handcuffed.

[@brianchavez2829]

Yeah, really cringy. Most vocalists are energetic, yet this bastard stands like a tool. Yuck.

[@johnRFC1872]

Very good video - interesting to hear a rare American take on Oasis. Disagree with your opinion on DYKWIM though, I really love that song.

[@kieranhavelock5821]

It's certainly not how most British people view it. I do feel he's a bit harsh on the album, it's a brilliant album and one of my favourite. It still wipes the floor with everything from this age for me. It was never gonna be as good as the previous 2 albums was it.

[@riahlexington]

I heard that song from this video and now I love it

[@emilianogarcia677]

@@kieranhavelock5821 The problem with BHN is that it's a good album on it's own, but after the first two it's just a hard crash.

[@MrToddling]

“D’ you know..” is a fucking great song, you douchenozzle

[@AndyPansy-hv6yr]

It's not even the 1997 version that's playing. It's the re-issued stripped down Noel re-think version. Also, if the title means nothing, what's a Wonderwall then, smart arse?!?

[@canadmexi]

In the Japanese release, the bonus track is a demo of All Around The World!

[@emperorhyperion9228]

F

[@DerekPower]

Fuckin’ hell

[@TSFboi]

That's some good detective work, pal

[@rruhland]

Oasis was a band that always were on the wrong side of the Loudness War, but if you’re gonna write boring songs, and THEN compress all the dynamic range out of them, it’s just gonna be boring, or end up overwhelming the audience to the point of shutting the record off. Edit: I had mostly missed this record myself, so I wasn’t expecting that last track. I laughed out loud. How on the fucking nose.

[@drifter402]

The loudness war is always bad. There is no music that benefits from it. It is 100% cynical.

[@cartmann94]

Oh, boy. An all new Trainwreckords. Early notification squad from *All around the world* *You better spread the world!*

[@jackashby2350]

I'd say that recently in the UK Stand By Me has reemerged as a great song, especially since Liam has started singing it again live. Went to his gig in Sheffield and the whole crowd was singing along

[@wesleylarks838]

This album is the equivalent of being full and starving at the same time. It's a bag of chips that is half filled with air Ya know what I mean?

[@riahlexington]

Yes

[@embunchofnumbers]

And this bag of crisps is advertised by Garry Lineker, I absolutely know what you mean

[@beatricefox937]

The best analogy I’ve ever seen

[@necrodamus5481]

That weirdly makes perfect sense

[@imalonerdottie]

Water, water, everywhere, and not a drop to drink

[@sandequation2653]

I just never get tired of any of Todd's videos.

[@charlottecorday8494]

Then explain your view counts for his Haddaway video.

[@CarelessFoolFallsFlat]

Death March of Peace and Love would make a wicked song title.

[@sudevsen]

HiEverybodyThe100th sounds like a MCR it CCR song

[@LimeyLassen]

countin bodies like sheep to the rhythm of a clarinet

[@drpibisback7680]

HiEverybodyThe100th I'm imagining a nihilistic sludge metal song about the failure of peace and love. I'd listen to it.

[@miguelpereira9859]

Reminds me of what a Christian anti-metal activist said in the 80's about Thrash: "Death is the Product". Now that is an awesome title

[@nicolassilva1729]

Don't Go Away makes this album worth it. Ah, the memories of crying over my ex-girlfriend when I was 14 as I burned with a fever while listening to this song will never go away.

[@shawnfields2369]

I agree. "Don't Go Away" makes the entire album worth buying. It's the "Wonderwall" of this album.

[@JeremyForTheWin]

20 bucks says he wrote it during the morning glory sessions

[@nicolassilva1729]

@ElyC West i meant as in worthy of existing. If Be Here Now got erased from hisrory that song would be lost. That song to me made this album worthy of being made.

[@danka1167]

@@JeremyForTheWin how are you verified with 300+ subs? Never mind

[@nicolederhone7847]

Totally agree

[@tylertyler3214]

Please do Avril Lavignes best damn thing as a trainwreckord. I love her and her albums after that but it definitely hurt her career after that

[@lunatikkrazieazylum6226]

tyler tyler Her self titled record would be much better for the show

[@rebeccaucich1290]

hey hey you you I don’t like your followup

[@codeblack9407]

Lunatikkrazie azylum it's too recent

[@Aubry92]

i guess i get how it could be a trainwreckord but maaan I love that album

[@tylertyler3214]

Jimmy B! Me too, her popularity shifted though

[@Miz2077]

Fun Fact: all around the world is the longest UK number one single in history, with the single version clocking in nine minutes 38 seconds

[@gab_v250]

I believe that Tiny Dancer (Elton John, 6'13") and Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen, 5'56") are closely second and third

[@TimmyTickle]

@@gab_v250 I thought Hey Jude was in the top three?

[@gab_v250]

@@TimmyTickle Oh. I never thought about it. I always thought it was a 4 minute song. I just realized it's seven minutes and a half...

[@Kinitawowi]

@@gab_v250 May also have been edited down for single release. I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) by Meat Loaf was a UK number one in 1993, and its album version is 12 minutes; it doesn't hold this record because the single edit is barely five and a half. Oasis would probably tell the producers to piss off if they tried to edit All Around The World down. That said, George Michael's Jesus To A Child and Queen's Innuendo, number ones in 1996 and 1991, are 6:49 and 6:33 on their Now That's What I Call Music! albums (which mostly went with single edits, American Pie on Now! 20 being a notable exception), so they might be up there.

[@DJsocial7102]

​@@gab_v250i think the most well known version of the song IS 4 minutes. I never even knew there was a 7 minute version of the song.

[@callumcrossley7926]

Great video. It would be cool to see a video on The Stone Roses’ “Second Coming”. It’s a pretty interesting story - from making one of the best debut albums of all time and being one of the biggest bands in the UK at the time to not being able to record any music due to legal issues, then finally coming out with the follow up 5 years later when no one gives a shit.

[@callumcrossley7926]

Jamie I disagree. I love The Stone Roses, but literally the only good thing on Second Coming is Love Spreads. The rest is completely forgettable and sounds the same. A massive drop in quality from their incredible first album.

[@callumcrossley7926]

Jamie I don’t know, maybe it’s just me, but I find the songs of Second Coming average at best and bland at worst. Admittedly, I may have been too hard on it since I had such high hopes for it after discovering The Stone Roses and the first album quickly becoming one of my favourites of all time. It’s just disappointing what happened to them, they were on track to become as big as Oasis before Oasis were even a thing. They could have had so much more great songs if it wasn’t for all the legal trouble between albums. It would be like if Oasis came out with Definitely, Maybe then had a 5 year break and came out with Be Here Now, then broke up.

[@PantheonLincoln]

Second Coming has its fans. The REAL Trainwreck was Reading '96.

[@IgnorancEnArrogance]

Second Coming has some incredible songs, but I think Ian Brown's voice drags them down. He writes great lyrics, but as they got heavier, his plain and limited voice just did not suit stuff like Love Spreads. I always imagine someone like Chris Cornell singing the stuff on Second Coming.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

Yep, John Squire started writing Led Zep songs but Ian Brown ain't no Robert Plant 😆

[@lokiskywalker]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

[@lildaffy1695]

Charles Meier Brother Darkness!

[@lucaslonchampt613]

Fuck your couch nigga!

[@ReverseHigh5er]

"He told me to stop singing Wonderwall." "Well, what did you say?" "I SAID MAYYBEEEE"

[@EpicB]

"Play Wonderwall!" "BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW"

[@melissakaisercrist1428]

"Maybe if we play loud, people will think we're good." -Squidward

[@monthebiffyclyro11]

You should do a video on Second Coming by The Stone Roses. There is a very interesting story between their first album, which is widely seen as one of the best debut albums ever, and Second Coming.

[@robbiegarnz7732]

Claiming a hit by birth right...what a marvelous turn of phrase!

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

Once is a fluke, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern. They almost made it.

[@niallmartin9063]

In Ireland one critic expressed caution on one of Ireland’s top radio show, when pressed by Gerry Ryan (radio icon), after all, the Gallaghers were an Irish family, the critic lost patience and said it was absolutely terrible and he hated it. Sacrilege, heresy. Then I bought it . . . . I listened to it once. I love “Standing on the Shoulders of Giants” though, seriously underrated ☘️

[@mumbles215]

Cheers from the USA my fellow mick.

[@spodoinklehorse]

Gerry loved the coke too RIP

[@Daniel-ll3qp]

I used to think this album was shit, but as I grew up I realised how perfectly it captured life in Britain in 1997 so I can’t help but love it now.

[@playlistmaster4163]

1997 must of been a pretty shit year

[@Daniel-ll3qp]

@@playlistmaster4163 Quite the opposite.

[@jonesy2111]

Britain must be a horrible place

[@benalker2640]

Being fair Britain 1997 was a point of cocaine, attempts of the bourgeois to recapture working class aesthetics and drowned in obnoxious spectacle blinded to the horrid consequences of the prior decade soon to come

[@lucasoheyze4597]

Other albums of that year included OK Computer by Radiohead, Vanishing Point by Primal Scream and Ladies & Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space by Spiritualized.

[@LounoirRecords]

"my big mouth" is my favorite oasis song ever if just the production wasn't blasting you in the face this hard it would be in my top 10 of all songs

[@Qwerty-ly8qk]

The pre-chorus is really fucking good. The song just has like 28 guitar tracks if I remember correctly, making it sound like absolute madness at some points lol

[@LounoirRecords]

@@Qwerty-ly8qk that song remastered would be incredible. a little wasted opportunity, because the song is really good and deserves it :)

[@forestine_]

I must have gotten this cd right when it came out because it was still being positively reviewed and that video was still on muchmusic. I kept listening to it wondering when it would be "good" but the songs went on for so long and even as a pre-teen, those Beatles references were really obvious and heavy-handed

[@Joonaskaa]

I really love "Do you know what I mean" love the sound and the vocals.

[@alittletooloose3087]

Really great stuff. I was living in England at the time and it was a good time and place to be young, this was kinda the death knell of the somewhat positive sunshiney Britpop period, we then got heartbroken albarn on heroin (but still pretty good) blur, this is hardcore and things went gloomy, then we got manufactured pop and 9/11

[@newguy90]

If that's so, it's very strange that the UK went gloomy considering the UK was making fun of the US grundge and alternative scene for being mopey during the time Oasis was big.

[@alittletooloose3087]

@@newguy90 there was a reaction against grunge, no doubt partly fueled by a one sided cultural rivalry between the uk and us, most glaring example is noel Gallagher writing live forever as a response to hearing kurt wanted to name his album "i hate myself and I want to die". In actuality though kurt was hugely influenced by uk music and comedy and they had a better sense of humor than most of the brit pop bands. Politically too new labour and tony blair turned out to be a scam but in 96 it felt like their was hope. Oasis, Blur and Pulp especially were used by the labour party to gain favor and pick up youth votes, at the time naively we thought it was genuine.

[@Mika-vr4bt]

@@alittletooloose3087 luckily damon albarn had some sense and refused to show up to downing street telling tony blair he was a communist

[@TimmyTickle]

@@Mika-vr4bt And 20 years later, Noel did the same thing to Jeremy Corbyn

[@deanolium]

@@Mika-vr4bt Pulp similarly. As a response to Blair inviting Britpop bands to No 10, Pulp wrote Cocaine Socialism. Britpop was really inspired by the optimism of the early 90s Rave Scene filtered through bands like Stone Roses. But then a mixture of everyone going up their own ass (cocaine is a hell of a drug), record companies just releasing the same kind of thing over and over but each time filtered to make it even safer/duller, and the 90s optimism dying with Princess Diana and the reality of New Labour. These bands had very, very little to say once they got big - just an image which eventually everyone got bored with.

[@bizarroeddie1]

i think you're using the remastered version of "You know what i mean" there, right? It's similar, but it's considerably better than the actual album version.

[@le0mendez]

Yes! i knew it, the bass and the string section are louder, the acoustics are in the center. Funny how he was talking about big sounding guitars over that crispy clean remixed version. Cheers, mad4it

[@andrewjenkinson8948]

I can't stand the remixed version. Album version is way better IMO.