Told My Married Friends They're Not Chipping In Their Fair Share r/AITA

[@roberthickman2907]

Mark, you weren't listening to the second story, and yet you read the story, it said she's only tips 12%.

[@MarkNarrations]

Apologies misworded there. I was meant to say along the lines of "hasn't tipped more previously before" or along those lines. I did understand she tips 12% but put down her anger to more embarrassment I guess? Thanks for pointing that out Robert.

[@roberthickman2907]

@@MarkNarrations I figured that you caught it already, I just wanted to note it in the comments, but thank you very much. And by the way, I hope the rest of your day is good.

[@MarkNarrations]

@@roberthickman2907 Absolutely noting it is important so thank you. You have a great day too :)

[@songohan3321]

Believe it or not, it is actually better to tip them directly. Therefore delivery people are guaranteed to receive the money.

[@MarkNarrations]

@@songohan3321 Generally I tip directly as I've found where I am it's usually the only option. I know one service that does offer you to do it through an app but I still do it directly as I (wrongly or correctly) don't trust it.

[@pansprayers]

The married friend needs to get a grip and know it. Airlines aren't going to only charge them for one seat, and they're scamming.

[@solmas2111]

Zebras!

[@JayeEllis]

Story 3: You're competitive, she's not. There's nothing wrong with either, unless you take it to the extreme. Just let her be herself, and you do you.

[@757Bricksquad]

I mean they just seem to have incompatible personalities.

[@maddy8328]

Story 4, so your sister STOLE AND FORGED. she needs to be in jail. You don't see that as something to cut her off over? Wow. Good for your brother, he should keep fighting

[@lancerevell5979]

Brother is in the right here. OP is, at best, a doormat. Even worse, a total idiot.

[@paulinadeboer3604]

OP attitude is the one of someone who have money enough probly double income or a rich hubby. Brother probly doesn't have that luxery. Op discused me.

[@judev3197]

It’s not even all about the money either although that’s important. It’s about the fact that she’s ripped off her two brothers for 10s of 1000s of dollars completely disregarding what their mum wanted. And it seems she’s forged stuff to do it. What’s next in her repertoire of felonies? OP doesn’t even get that she’s done it once, she can do it again & he sides with her over his brother. I feel so bad for the brother losing his mum & having these two as all that’s left.

[@robertbishop5158]

Good luck with having a relationship with Brother again let alone see him again. I hope the brother gets away from these Sisters.

[@susankaempfer8427]

I was wondering. OP says his sister wishes he’d just get over it, and I’m like, then why doesn’t she pay back the money? It’s easy for her to say family is more important than money WHEN SHE TOOK THE MONEY.

[@chrisengland5523]

First story about couple only chipping in 1/4 when there are 5 of you. You ordered a pizza and they paid a quarter of the price - so cut it into 4 and give them a quarter with the remaining three quarters going to the remaining three of you. If they complain "I thought you were a couple and shared things including the cost of things".

[@OZARKMOON1960]

#4 - OP just loves being a doormat but doesn't want anyone calling her that. Letting a sibling commit fraud against your parent, yourself and other siblings because 'she is a great babysitter' is just crazy. If the sister can do that to their mother and them, what is to say she won't steal from OP and or her kids directly while in OP's house? Her poor brother - neither sister is worth shit.

[@immortalsofar5314]

Won't be disrespected in her own house? She's done _nothing_ to deserve respect. I've only "known" her for 5 minutes and feel nothing but contempt.

[@kilo1901]

I feel like at that moment, Brother was essentially letting the OP know that he was about to drop a Nuke on the sister and wanted her out of the blast radius. OP chosen to stay in said radius.

[@Ally.81]

You are all so right. I have 3 sisters and i will never do that to them or if one of them did that(which I know 1000% they will never do) i will never take her side no matter how great she is with my kids or me. Also I am 100% sure she did abuse her brother and OP knows, but is putting her head in the sand... So sad, hope the brother puts the other sister in jail as she deserves.

[@janet6421]

It really hurts the sister's feelings that the brother disowned her. Maybe she should fix things by returning the money she stole.

[@Original_Tenshi_Chan]

@@janet6421 That's the problem though; the sister doesn't have feelings. She just knows that OP is a doormat, and if she hears a sob story about how "hurt" the sister is, then the OP will don her Knight in Dull Armor costume and try to beat the brother into submission and silence with additional emotional abuse. The reason OP thinks the "abuse was exaggerated" was because SHE was the bludgeon used to beat her brother. She was never the bludgeoned. I don't even have to hear the story from the brother's point of view to see that the eldest is a narc, OP is the enabler, and the brother is the scapegoat. I sincerely hope her sister does to her just like she did to their mother. I sincerely hope she forges documents, cleans OP out leaving her homeless and penniless, so OP can comfort the crying Narc when she comes sobbing about how "it was an accident, she didn't mean to clean OP out, please don't be mad, she doesn't want to lose her family, etc" and all the same lies she spat out before.

[@theundone777]

Story 1: They should pay for what they are using. That might not always be per person, but in many situations it is. They know this, they are just being intentionally obtuse about it.

[@itsjustme7487]

Some people still think that 2 can live as cheaply as 1. That has been BS for ever. Don't invite them anymore.

[@zapheil]

Honestly, I super get where Story 3’s OP is coming from. I prefer taking things more seriously too, and interacting with a person who never takes anything seriously is exhausting. But neither one of them is really wrong in their approach to life; they’re just kind of at odds with each other, so they might simply not be compatible.

[@Nico6th]

Story 4: woah. Sister forged papers and stole the estate and Op expects her brother to forgive everything? that's not peace-keeping that's enabling at its finest. I hope the brother sues the sister for every penny. If OP doesn't want anything from the estate they can always just give it to the brother for his troubles.

[@Original_Tenshi_Chan]

I hope he's able to sue OP too, claiming she was an accessory to the crime, "why else would she demand we forgive the criminal and drop the charges unless she got some of the proceeds"... Which leads me to believe she is lying that she only received $500 like her brother. I'm thinking she received quite a bit more, and thus why OP is so concerned with the sister's distress and demanding her brother drop the suit.

[@trinitylane2202]

Not only for his troubles but also to pay the legal fees he's racking up.

[@jdkillzone]

@@Original_Tenshi_Chan Idk. Seems more like the older sister mistreated both of them and OP learned to lay down and curl into the fetal position while bro kept trying to fight back. Skip ahead several years and OP is still rolling over and showing her belly while her brother keeps resisting. OP just sounds pathetic and broken to me. She'd rather keep up the fiction that everything is fine than have to face up to just how bad the reality of her family truly was/is. Plus, she leaves her kids with this psychopath. That is a recipe for disaster.

[@Nico6th]

@@Original_Tenshi_Chan Interesting thought! But the way Op is ducking down and accepting everything the sister does I doubt they would even defend themselves properly if that meant upsetting the sister

[@lisakaz35]

Geez, that OP is practically an accessory after-the-fact just for a babysitter when if the sibling had coughed up a real share of the inheritance, the kids could have a babysitter and maybe college funds.

[@tabathaalshalhoub1653]

And she is letting someone like her sister around her kids. What’s stopping the sister from stealing from the kids? Their piggy banks, their jewelry, their electronics (like phones and switches and whatnot). I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if the sister has been stealing from op for *years*

[@amandab8433]

I read through OP's responses to people on the post. Omg OP doubles and tripled down on their position. I was actually quite disturbing to read. I hope that the brother wins his case and the sister gets jail time. She deserves it, and OP is a flaming idiot.

[@lisakaz35]

@A H She's being played.

[@shells500tutubo]

@A H As another commenter said, OP probably is in on it with the sister and has been paid off.

[@justinecorrington4106]

Story 1: married friends suck. My sister and husband tried that logic. Especially with friend; they tried to have me pay half as they were a unit. I pointed out her husband was eating half of the food himself; so half the food should be mine if I paying half. And the room, they should have paid more if they had their own room and everyone shared. Well unless it was three rooms.

[@sera404]

Pizza should be simple if the cost is being divided by 4 - each person who paid gets a quarter each, and the husband and wife then divide that quarter by two

[@paigemosher8697]

The husband and wife are two people, not a single unit. Split the cost five ways so that everyone pays their fair share. Your solution would have the couple pay less per person, and that isn't fair.

[@amandabaker4678]

@@paigemosher8697 I don't think you are quite getting what they said. They meant that if the couple is only paying a 1/4 of the cost, then they should only get 1/4 of the pizza and have to split that between the two of them, instead of what is happening currently which is them only paying for a 1/4 of the pizza, but eating at least 2/5 of it.

[@indianspartan76]

Story 4: I came in thinking NTA. Now I'm saying YTA Edit: "he said she's been abusing him his entire life. I think that's an exaggeration." That's not up to OP. So he was victimized by OP's sister, and he was alienated by his sister who agreed with him? Then he came to you finally and you threw him out. No wonder your kids don't know him. Your sister likes you because you were a good little victim who didn't fight back and were an attack dog against her other victim. There's a term for that. I want to curse at OP, so I'm gonna stop here

[@Schwiegermutter]

She could pay a babysitter with her part of the money. Now she is unable to do that when her sister will go to jail.

[@judev3197]

Exactly this! I’m so mad on behalf of the brother.

[@legtemal7304]

Dang I’m too single to use the “couples pay less” life hack.

[@GeorgiaDLee]

OP 1: stop paying the extra for what you're splitting. offer what's fair and no more. let the rest of the peace keepers subsidize the married couple's expenses.

[@Gloria-ro4vn]

If you and GF don't enjoy the same things, to the point it makes you mad, then find someone who is more compatible.

[@ItsYaBoiV]

Right, so former delivery driver here. In the US, delivery drivers DO NOT MAKE MINIMUM WAGE. They try to sugar coat it that we make "approximately" x-amount per hour, but we are paid based on the amount/mileage of deliveries we do, and it's usually something like min wage in store, $2-4 an hour on the road. We survive on tips! I can express how much even just a $5 handed to me at the door could improve my night when a majority of people don't tip, or only tip a dollar. Also I can promise you, I remember every bad tipper. Every single one. Including our cities mayor, who spent $120 on pizza and sides, and did not tip AT ALL. Day before Christmas Eve, too. Jackass.

[@WatsonAndDaughter]

Story #4: YTA. You may have made your peace, but she stole from him. If someone did this I would be angrier for my siblings more than anything.

[@rutyqutykandi1361]

This is the kind of thing that makes me hate passive people. Its one thing to not like fights but this kind of passiveness is what allows criminals to get away with there shit.

[@lancerevell5979]

Sister committed theft. Maybe OP is OK with being stolen from, but brother is within his rights to want Sis to own up to her theft. Hopefully he can get enough evidence, have her charged and jailed.

[@Russman67]

Exactly. She wants the family like it used to be. But get sister stole from her and her brother. And not just a couple bucks. Six figures. She is willing to let the rug be swept because family.

[@tgbedini]

On the married leaches, and I can't believe they tried it on the pizza! That's so blatant it doesn't even rise to a discussion. 5 people eat, split it 5 ways. But the rental also got me. They get a private bedroom, the others sleep on a couch or bunk, which they are paying twice as much for as each of the married "friends." Honestly, I would just not go on vacations with them. If all the rest of their relationship is as good as OP claims, it'll be fine. If the couple gets upset, (and boy, howdy will the other two start getting upset if 4 people divide everything 3 ways on vacay), then they weren't as good friends as OP thought.

[@alexshaw8167]

The friends must be pretty stupid to allow it to keep happening though. There’s no way I would be ok with them paying for 1 person at a rental when there are 2 of them.

[@pearl_lisha896]

Wow that last story is crazy! OP said her brother is exaggerating about being abused by their sister but listening to what their sister did and how nonchalant OP is makes me think that brother really isn’t exaggerating.

[@lisakaz35]

I think OP has to say that to sleep at night in the delusion of not taking sides.

[@robertx8020]

I bet that OP stood there and watched it all and said ..nothing to see here

[@lisakaz35]

@@robertx8020 The sister is likely a grade A manipulator somehow making OP feel sorry for a thief and blaming a realist for calling out the BS.

[@voxkine9385]

Story 4: imagine being grateful your sister stole $33k from you but that she occasionally babysits! Imagine how many babysitters you could hire…

[@lancerevell5979]

Story four.... Yes, OP is the AH. Sis committed a crime, stealing from both brothers. Brother is entirely within his rights to seek redress from his thieving sister.

[@kilo1901]

I’m rooting that Brother in Story 4. I hope he makes a post about it.

[@Schwiegermutter]

It's so sad. He was abused and his other sister is abandoning him. Brutal

[@shells500tutubo]

@@Schwiegermutter Because she was in on it. She's just too complacent about the whole thing.

[@moimeself1088]

The friends in story 1 are complete chancers and the rest of the group is letting them. Grrr!

[@fcold9402]

4. No one should be fighting over inheritance but if sister did steal the money she is in the wrong. You can stop caring about it if you want but you should not expect other betrayed people to stop caring. BTW OP is being paid off by sister through his kids which may explain why he is not as upset. Hopefully sister goes to jail.

[@elaexplorer]

Story 1: NTA The food should definitely be divided by the number of people eating. For the room since there's only the one bedroom, that room should naturally cost more than a bunk in common space. I don't know if twice as much is logical or not depending on the size. It would be logical to set a price for each bed then they could decide if they wanted to pay the extra for the private room or share a bunk at the bunk price. I've been trying to figure out how they figured they only have to pay ¼ for the boat and Uber and really can't come up with a logical explanation. They aren't one person and should each be paying for their share.

[@OZARKMOON1960]

#2 - NTA. Giving a driver who delivers to you many times - and goes above and beyond - and extra bit of cash like every 4th to 6th time is a lovely thing to do. A nice little bonus for being so reliable and nice.

[@TheArnaa]

Story 4: so the sister forged signatures to gain access to their mum’s estate and then stole $100,000 plus jewellery, but OP let it go because it’s not worth ruining her relationship with sister over this. It’s frightening to think what it would take for OP to break with the sister if that gets brushed off.

[@lancerevell5979]

Sis committed felony crimes. She needs charged and jailed. OP is a fool.

[@Riunlarose]

You mean OP let it slide cuz sister watches his kids

[@zebnemma]

Yeah was thinking the same. If sister can do something like that they can surely do it again. But OP doesn't give a flip, as long as he has a babysitter right? WTF even is this... Maybe next time she steals from the family it will put OP and his/her children in danger. I bet OP won't be laughing then. But then it would be too late anyway. I can't believe they are willingly keeping such a dangerous person around them and their children.

[@sofie6524]

Thats one expensive babysitter

[@EmmyRae1885]

Story 4: I hate how family acts like just because they decided to be a doormat the rest of us have to fall in line as well. YTA, native of you to think she's not going to abuse and screw over your children more in the future

[@Ospyro3em]

Story 3- whenever we go to pub quiz and don't know the answer, we always put a silly answer down for fun. We know it's the wrong answer, but it's funny, and sometimes the host gives us the point for making him laugh 😂

[@ohno8398]

That's such a sweet pub tradition!

[@fytrndm]

Same. I'm one hell of a competitive person but a pub quiz are generally for laughs and hanging out with your mates. It's never that serious.

[@Orion_Alathorn]

story 1 reminds me of the time I moved into my first apartment where my 2 roommates were a couple and they tried to pull a "so you'll pay half the rent and we'll pay half" thing on me lol. in the end though I sat them down and we all agreed thirds would be better after a good discussion, sounds like thats what the friend group needs to do

[@itsjustme7487]

I agree. Would a cinema do a pay for one seat for a couple. Not in the US.

[@Tim85-y2q]

Story 2: Tipping is not a "savior complex", it's a basic thing you do to those who provide certain services. There's certainly room for argument over the appropriate amount to tip, but there's nothing wrong with rewarding exceptional service with a larger than normal tip.

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

A year late, but when I was a Domino’s delivery driver I only made $5/h (like a server) and the rest was supposed to be made in tips. Cash tips are the best cuz you can get away without reporting them.

[@elaexplorer]

Story 4: YTA OP has taken sister's side over brother. Brother feels alone in the world with no family support of course he cried.

[@SilentDecepticon]

Last story: The brother probably feels like the only sane man in the family. Why is OP so okay with his sister stealing from him and his brother? I would not be able to so easily forgive her, especially as she has never tried to make what she did right. At the least, she would have to give me and the brother the shares of the inheritance we were supposed to get before I would even speak to her again. OP is a gross doormat. I hope the brother pursues this to the end and the sister faces charges for her crimes.

[@micahpatchen1538]

PARALLEL HOBBIES why is this not taught in school?!?!? This would have saved several marriages.

[@potato-rp2bf]

The married friend thing is the opposite of that one single person a while back who wanted everything to be split equally in the room even tho they were getting a whole bed to themself, and the couples were sharing. In this story, the couple is taking up two room spots

[@potatoempress5731]

Story 4 OP is sweeping it all under the rug bc she can still find use for the thief sister as a babysitter. Because it benefits her. Sheesh. I hope the brother's life improve without his two sisters who failed him.

[@cheskydivision]

Next time have the married couple use the sofa bed. Why should they pay half price yet get the private room and married doesn’t count when paying for food.

[@jaywan5553]

Girlfriend and hobbies story - I just celebrated my 20th wedding anniversary and one reason we still get along so well is because we have separate hobbies and interest. He does his, I do mine. I think it’s very important to keep your own interests and sense of self.

[@BallstotheWalnuts]

Tell the singles that next time you go out as a group, tell the couple that the three of you are in a poly relationship so each couple pay half.

[@J_e_s_s]

I share my apartment with two other people that are a couple. We split rent by thirds. They pay the electric bill and I pay the wifi bill. Just because you're married doesn't mean you literally become one.

[@Captain.Basketcase]

Story one. If the married friends went to a restaurant, they would pay their own meals not get half price for being married

[@jeandobkowski8571]

meal check should be divided by how many plates of food... 5 plates...divide by 5 each person should pay for all of their own food.PERIOD!

[@drawcula4025]

Idk, I can see both sides of story 3, but I lean towards NTA and would recommend not inviting her anymore. It's fine to want to play around because in the end, games are supposed to be fun, but never taking anything seriously? To the point where you're more a hindrance than a help, even when on a team? Kind of comes across like you don't care how anyone else feels, and I think both of them need to learn to read the room. My sister and I actually have a similar dynamic (she's the chill one and I'm the competitive one) and the compromise we came to is that if it's just us playing, it's for fun and we goof around. But if we're on a team or there's an actual prize at stake, we both take it seriously ~

[@draughtoflethe]

I agree. I was initially thinking NAH and they're just fundamentally not compatible, but I can also empathize with OP's frustration at the way she seems intent to ruin his games with her screwing around. If she doesn't want to play that badly, she should make it a clear boundary rather than sabotaging his fun passive-aggressively. His enjoyment isn't less important than hers, and she's just going to make him not want to spend time with her.

[@drawcula4025]

@@draughtoflethe Right? I think you said it perfectly ~ why do these people agree to play if they're just going to ruin the experience for the other players by screwing around? I just don't get people like that. I mean, heck, there's someone further down in the comments who was bragging how this story reminded them of a time they almost won a game of Monopoly despite not paying attention bc they were on their phone the whole time, and I was just like.. since when is that something to brag about? Either pay attention to the game or don't play at all, but don't agree to play and then be rude and/or disrespectful to the other players! Sheesh.

[@Aurummorituri]

“You should bring up two incomes irrelevant and detracts from stance blah!” No, that is completely relevant and makes up the bulk of OP’s stance. Two people with two incomes are only paying for themselves as ONE person. Learn to read.

[@squirrel670]

Exactly it makes it more obvious and worse that they are stealing from everyone else. The situation would obviously be different if the couple were living in poverty with 6 kids vs millionares. In the first it might makes sense that if the friends care they pay a bit extra to make sure they can come, I know I've done that. In the other situation its more than shameful. These people individually make more than everyone there and together they make over twice as much but don't want to pay their share. That's nasty.

[@carlrood4457]

No, it isn't relevant. If they only had one income, they're still taking up two people's worth of space/food. Even only one of them worked part time at a minimum wage job, if they eat the pizza or sleep in the rental, they pay like two people

[@joeschmo622]

As for splitting the bills, it's ridiculously easy. Calculate your share, and only pony up that amount. If the others want to subsidise the couple, they're welcome to, out of THEIR pockets. I used to go to lunches with a work group, and a few of them would load up on appetisers, drinks, etc, when I'd only have my entree and coffee. "Let's split the bill N ways!" "Wellp, II only had X, so here's for that, plus tax'n'tip." And I left it at that. No grandstanding, no "Waaah! It's not faaaaair!!", nothing, just what I owed. It took 1-2 rounds 'til I wised up, but no one gave me crap about it. (22bux when I'd only owe 12, or 13 tops? Yeah, no.) And funnily enough, once others started doing similarly, the slobs who'd order up and expected everyone else to subsidise them, stopped doing it to that extent when they had to start paying up in full. And if it's something like the b'n'b where the couple gets the room and everyone else gets cots or something, screw that. "Sokay, I'm out. Have fun without me."

[@amysunday0]

living in a country with livable minimum wage and no tipping culture, I still ALWAYS tip, especially since i've worked as a barista before. Story 2 NTA

[@scousemouse9566]

Story 4, YTA, OP is like my sister robbed me and my brother, but hay she babysits for me so my brother must be the AH. SMH🧇🧇🧇🧇

[@DjCrimsonFox]

For the competitive boyfriend and laid back girlfriend, honestly I think its more of an ESH. The two of them are just not compatible in general. While everyone is getting mad at OP for being insufferable compared to his girlfriend, the thing is she's not reading the room in his hobbies either. Like in competitive gaming if you end up leaving, you're ruining the experience for the rest of the team being a man down, its just as frustrating as she is feeling about him taking everything seriously. Honestly unless this is only issue they're having, I don't see this relationship lasting in the long run unless they just accept to let both of them have their own hobbies and maybe then just find some not gaming/challenge way of spending time together.

[@mrsbobanna]

Yeah I agree, there are times when you should take things seriously. You have to recognize when a group of people take something seriously, and opt out if you don't want to. But he may have pushed her into playing.

[@carolroberts4614]

It sounds like he did! He said at the start he wanted her to share his hobbies!Hasn't said anything about sharing hers though! I am a complete rabbit at sports, so I would have to do it for fun. No good at gaming, but I might hold my end up in the pub quiz, unless they're frighteningly competitive.

[@bautistalover]

Exactly they both are doing the same thing just on different ends of the scale.

[@trainerlesseevee478]

My Dad told me at a young age to always, ALWAYS tip the delivery driver/waiter or waitress. As I got older I made sure to tip 20% at least when I can afford it. He also taught me to be nice to the server because they have a huge say in what happens to your food. If GF were to talk badly to a server or under tipped, then the next time they went there the server could very well have their food messed with. People truly forget how much power the server has when you get food. Please be kind to the servers/cooks. They are under paid and stressed. Also, I'm completive by nature and I've put restrictions on myself so I don't ruin mine or anyone else's mood by getting frustrated by losing. Don't ruin someone else's fun because your too serious to have fun with the people around you.

[@itsjustme7487]

With tip jars at every take out place, I normal pay 10 to 15%. For a sit down place it's normally 20% unless the wait staff is especially good they get 25%. BTW...Eating out is a treat not the norm.

[@BillSmith-ut5li]

You should explain to her that she shouldn't piss off people that can piss on her food.

[@Deaznkid280]

First story NTA, I am friends with married couples and we all do per person when we do group expenses

[@luciferandassociates9255]

Story 3: Not everything has to be competitive, but the same goes the other way, not everything has to be a joke. If him and his friends are trying to play and win at a game and you know you're just going to mess around and not care, Don't Join! Don't ruin it for the others! If her and her friends are going to mess around during tivia night and you're trying to win. Don't Join! Don't ruin it for the others! You can hangout side by side, I love having my chill moments more than being competitive. Hubby loves being competitive more than joking around. If he's playing a game at a competitive level, I don't join. But if he wants to play with me he'll bring it down to a level I can play at. Unless it's a board game, Those are war unless we playing with the kids. ESH. Both y'all fucking up each other vibes and y'all should talk about it without downplaying the others.

[@sandragarner2912]

Domino effect: Perhaps you can tell your girlfriend that though it was nice that she tips the driver, you wanted to show you appreciate what the driver does and that it made you feel cheap not to add a little extra so that the driver continues the awesome service.

[@songohan3321]

That title is 👌.

[@toddripley8802]

I am the married friend. My husband and I always split as two people. We aren’t one person. We pay our share as much as everyone else.

[@inumirsangelskagsan]

The married friend's argument that being married means they only need to pay one person's portion is complete bs! My husband and I live with a roommate and we split rent and expenses by three people! NTA, OP's married friends are the AHs.

[@RevWarRev]

Story 1: Vacay Moochers. NTA. Nope, gets split 5 ways. People like this count on pleople being made to feel uncomfortable over money, being made to feel petty. Well OP isn't petty - the married couple is getting a break on the cost. They aren't one person, they are two ducking adults - pony up, people!

[@GIChiyo]

Story 4: WOW that sister is a criminal wtf, YTA she deserves prison for forging a signature on an executor document...

[@joshcheatham9424]

I went to a golden corral that recently opened. We all (all other customers) couldn't get in because the 2 old ladies who witnessed the birth of Christ. Were standing at the register demanding to only pay for 1 because they were going to eat off the same plate. Like wtf

[@zachf748]

When you tell them there’s 6 people eating here, it should be split 6 ways, how do they logically argue against that? Because I cannot see one logical argument for it.

[@JootjeJ]

I thought everyone anywhere tipped delivery drivers. I always do.

[@blkbrdmntrvimes6438]

It's nice to think so but some people are under the deluded notion that the driver gets the delivery fee... Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact it's written on the pizza box and your receipt that the driver doesn't get the fee, in theory its helping pay for the boxes napkins what have you. Drivers are paid like waitstaff anywhere else in the United States, well under minimum wage the company is hoping your tip will cover the rest. Now Drivers understand that everybody has bad days and can't always afford to tip, I myself would give each address 3 tries to tip at all. After the 3rd. No matter how many orders I had or what order they came in no tippers get the pizza dead last. And have to deal with cold pizza and warm drinks , Tippers get priority hot food and cold drinks . Non tippers can complain to corporate all they want no one cares especially since they can see I've been taking 3-6 runs every time out and every body else is happy .

[@JootjeJ]

@@blkbrdmntrvimes6438 That's awful! In my country delivery drivers get 100% of the tip. It even says so on your bill. I'm not saying that small independent bosses always play by the rules, but in theory large corporations tend to follow the law or get into trouble.

[@ohwow9769]

Story 3 - Reminds me of when I almost won a game of Monopoly (not a fan of the game) while playing on my phone the entire time and my bf, who is very competitive was getting so frustrated 😂 he didn’t get legitimately mad like OP, but he was more shocked that I was winning while not paying attention

[@JUMALATION1]

Haha, nice :D In my family, my paternal uncles are EXTREMELY competitive and whenever they try to start some sort of game with the rest of the relatives, I just don't participate because I know it will end in a shitshow. The few times I have entered, I never actively try to win, but if the game is suddenly going well for me or any other family member, they try to accuse me/them of cheating or just having insane luck. And if either uncle is winning, it's "obviously" because they are "so good at the game" and try to rub it in everyone's face.

[@bautistalover]

See I guess I’m an oddball because I don’t think he was an AH. It was more so for me an ESH. She knows he’s competitive so when she joins him and his friends the least she can do is take it seriously causing them to fail because she thinks it’s a joke isn’t ok. That’s why she sucks too. When he joins her and her friends on their activities he has to remember this is just fun for them and not a competition which is why he sucks. They’re all getting on him but forget she’s literally doing the same thing by not taking it seriously.

[@paulinadeboer3604]

I agree with op, she can't like the games, then don't play. If he was acting the same way in her yogaclass everybody would call him the ah. She is actually saying that his hobby's are a joke that only her hobby's could be taken serious. That is a big level of disrespect for your partners hobby's. Like i said if you don't like his hobby's don't go but don't yeopardy his options to win the game that he likes. It is also a lack of communication, it is her passif agressief way to make sure he won't ask her anymore.

[@brandyphillips129]

When I was delivering pizzas for Dominos, I made $4 an hour plus tips. The tips were the difference between making the rent or not.

[@builtontherockhomestead9390]

Last story....sister belongs in prison. She is a horrible person, a criminal, committed multiple felons. I hope she is protected and goes to prison.

[@emibaka309]

I’m listening to this while catwatching my friends 2 cats ❤️

[@michal31131]

Nice✨ Are they chonkers?

[@zachf748]

NTA. It’s insanely rude for your married friend to be bringing along her husband for a free roll. And it’s very unfair to the other 3 to be paying more than their fair share. I cannot see how any friend would do that… It’s just extremely selfish and rude. And then double down and get mad at you because you didn’t want to be paying 1/5th of *_her boyfriends share…_* Ridiculous.

[@lesleyboulant4053]

I’m pretty sure that if you don’t tip at least 20%, you’re going to go to hell.

[@stephenlundy5082]

Story 3: ESH. First of all OP has to realize that they come off as a very competitive person, and yes that can come off as very exhausting. OP needs to recognize that in themselves and manage it better. OP should make it clear to GF, where there are situations where he is "in it to win it." and then there should also be situations where he needs to relax and go with the flow. I think what OP needs to do, like for the charity bike race, he should tell the GF that he is trying to win this race. Now it was not clear to me if the Charity bike race was organized around teams or not, but if it was and GF wanted to be on his team, knowing his competitive nature, she was certainly being an AH in her choice of bike. If she wanted to participate with her fizzy whizzie bike, she could have joined a fizzy whizzie bike team and had fun. She should not her boyfriend's competitive team and ruined his fun. Even though it is for Charity, there are still winners and losers, that means there are still people to go to these events who want to try to win, and there is nothing wrong with that. It almost seems like the GF sabotages games and competitions based on the stories OP has told, when competition starts to become serious. For OP I can see how this can be annoying, so that makes GF an AH as well.

[@bgcorporation]

2nd Story: I have a simple way to tip when it comes to tipping if service is good. $5 per $25. So up to the first $25 is $5 tip. Then above $25 to $50 is $10. That way the tip % is always 25% or higher.

[@ceeshnia]

The last comment on the second story about the "I doubt other foods upset but not Dominos", that isn't how all bodies work. My sibling can have several junk food options, but if she eats x,y,z which is healthy it sets off her digestion for days and makes her feel like hell. Like she can eat pizza, but she cannot eat spinach because of texture, she can eat white chocolate but not regular chocolate because of how her body will respond. It's a really hard thing to deal with, and despite my food allergies to common things such as eggs, I can eat more variety than she can. She can't eat apples, either. So yeah, eating out is pretty hard but usually, more "junk" like food is less likely to upset her digestion for whatever bizarre reason.

[@cptfwiffo]

That first story... Come in with 7 of your mates. Tell them that you're happily in a septuple poly. Bonus if the other two join in.

[@Buff_Helpy]

"I wish someone would bake me cakes." Your wish is my command.

[@Steampunkkids]

I can’t make a good cake without eggs (kids and hubby allergic). But, I’d be happy to send Mark some cookies or a cookie cake!

[@DarkCrystalSage]

I wonder if I can send cookies overseas for Mark

[@Steampunkkids]

@@DarkCrystalSage I wonder if they would get to him before spoiling! The time frame to get items from America to England probably isn’t too bad, is it??? I mean, I look out at the Los Angeles and Long Beach Harbors and (according to my app) they have each been there for at least 3 weeks, if not more, just waiting to unload. Add the time it takes to cross the ocean, and it would be at least a month. I think my cookies would be gross by then. I wonder if sending cookies through air mail is allowed? Hmmmm……

[@itsjustme7487]

I wish I had someone to cook and clean up for me.

[@bgcorporation]

Story 4: You know what, I hope the brother makes the OP fight for the money when he wins.

[@Brigitte_Cantin]

A lot of drivers dont get paid at all and live on tips.

[@loriwishman1866]

15% minimum in the US. 12% undertipping cheapskate. These folks deserve more in these times. Even though I don't make alot I appreciate their work and know I'm lucky to have their service.

[@Scheriff091]

S4: What the hell. Sister better be an amazing occasional baby-sitter for the 66k she stole from her siblings. OP is an A-grade doormat. YTA.

[@TrippySensei25]

Story 4. YTA smh she stole 100k and gave you $500. He needs the support not your stealing sister .🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ehmolekkkkk]

about the last story, a 100.000 dollar babysitter with at least 1 proved felony doesn´t sounds like a good deal.

[@ohno8398]

Story 4 made me want to scream, oh my god that poor brother just wants his sister to stop FORGING AND STEALING SHIT

[@scottbrowder8304]

for story 4 i think the OP was in on it. he's too dismissive of his sister stealing the inheritance. he's too chill with her committing MULTIPLE FELONIES. he's just too cowardly to throw in with the sister completely and openly.

[@Vallyrah]

Story 1: Give in about the pizza and redo the math Original math: ($60 -10 discount) / 5 people = $10/each New math: $60 / 4 people = $15/each; after all OP should get credit for their contributing that $10 discount. Which means that OP only owes $5, not $10. Married couple owes $15, not $10. AND the do nothings who want peace at all costs can cover the extra money.

[@jemase7931]

Let it go for the sake of peace? Uh, no. You pay your 1/5 and let the other 2 singles make their own decisions.

[@thotimusprimeofficial273]

The gf story,, ESH she was ruining games for EVERYONE not just him by not playing properly but the pub trivia thing was silly. It’s a “read the room” case for both of them. I’ve got a friend similar to the gf who doesn’t play group games seriously or bails half way through and it really sours the mood the rest of the group. If he needs to adapt then she does too! She’s an adult if she find it boring then she can still suck it up and get through it with our ruining it for the entire group just like he should. If everyone is just trying to play and you choose to goof off/play incorrectly/etc it ruins it for everyone else but also vice versa for things such as charity bike races!

[@virginiaherman2414]

In that last story, OP may still be able to salvage the relationship with her brother... if she acts on the judgements by confronting her sister about the forgery. Her sister will either blow up, have some disjointed excuse, or try to guilt OP for even talking to brother about this issue. OP could then go to brother and say, "I'm sorry, you're right that this is an issue, and I was just too [naive/ complacent/ afraid] to admit it."

[@somerandoonyt9553]

Story 3. I'd like a little more clarity. OP said that he's been trying to include their SO in his activities. Is he the one that wants to include her? Or does she want to be included? If the GF is the one asking to be included, I'm going with ESH. You don't ask to be included in a competitive game/sport, and not play competitively. Example, the computer game, if she's wanting to participate, then she needs to be competitive. The bike race, unless it's scored on teams, and the pub trivia makes OP the AH.

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

I had to listen to Story 4 again too! Like, say what now?! And the sister is stressed?! Maybe she shouldn’t have been a fraudulent thief?!

[@dragonking1348]

Story 4: I’m gonna throw this little nugget out, what happens if op suddenly passes what happens when he’s estate gets read. I bet the sister will do everything in power to get that money and leave the kids and spouse with jack nothing. That’s who she has shone herself to be.

[@fcold9402]

2. From title....you are always supposed to tip pizza drivers no matter what company. From the story it is NEVER wrong to tip more if you want to. I try to always tip good but i will tip a regular driver a little more if they are nice (or if its near the holidays, everyone gets more).

[@moimeself1088]

Hiya Mark 🙋🏾‍♀️🇿🇦 thanks for the stories

[@loriwishman1866]

I'm guessing the "forgiving" sibling doesn't need the money.

[@fcold9402]

1. Sharing the room may be a good arguement for splitting a bill with a couple as one (assuming everyone had rooms which doesn't appear to be the case here) but everything elses should be split by individual person. NTA for insisting this and calling them out.

[@pinkglitter93]

If they wanted to be so technical about the room situation as well, the couple got a room and the others got bunk beds in other rooms. Therefore shouldn't the couple pay for the room and the others share the cost of the other room, divided by 3?

[@fcold9402]

@@pinkglitter93 Yup and anyone on a couch should pay less. If the agreement was they are all renting a house together then each individual should pay the same. I was thinking it is fair for a couple to pay the same price as singles if everyone was getting an equal room (singles each have their own room, then two people in one room would pay same price), that does not appear to be the case here. None of the other situations are even close to being a couple pays the same situation though unless they are sharing one portion of the same meal.

[@sandracox4341]

Married friends: they are not one person there are two of them. The room rent (okay they share) but group activities, food, rides, they eat twice as much they take up two seats and if activities are charging per person they need to pay for both parties.

[@pelgervampireduck]

story 3: I can understand why the guy is frustrated. I know not everything has to be a competition, but it's like she sabotages things on purpose. both sound annoying in their own way but she sounds more frustrating like she doesn't take anything seriously. like when you try to show somebody a good movie or a song and you are very enthusiastic and trying to share a good thing but they don't give a shit, talk all the time, check their phone, and ignore the good thing you wanted to share with them. I got that feeling from the story. they are not compatible, but I don't think he's the AH. it must be very frustrating trying to do things with somebody that's goofing around all the time and doesn't care about anything.

[@politereminder6284]

Story 4 is exactly like my family. My siblings don't understand that siding with abusers is also abuse. 😢

[@CaulkMongler]

Story 1: how does it make any sense that they get the *only* private room and only actual bed that can accommodate them (non-bunk) but only need to pay the share of 1 person? Those calculations don’t make any sense and OP, or any of the friends for that matter, enable it. If the friends aren’t willing to see reason, I’d say I’m only willing to pay as much as the married couple moving forward and see if they suddenly have an issue then.

[@garthrogers2269]

1st story. NTA. They are being subsidised by the singles. Accommodation charges per head, not per couple. Same goes for restaurants, transportation, etc. 2nd story. Can't comment much as I live in a place where tipping is almost non-existent. However, it sounds like a barbaric treatment of staff by employers, who should be paying their staff a living wage. 3rd story. YTA. OP is making it hard for their GF to enjoy OP's hobbies. Makes me wonder if OP tries to push GF to go harder when doing her hobbies. If OP wanted go fast during the charity ride, they could have done so, and just waited for their GF to finish.

[@bunnyslippers191]

I have friends like the madly competitive OP. One of them talked me into playing a card game for money with partners (I had no clue you could even play UNO with partners, and I was too effing poor to be playing for money. Our partners were guys she knew pretty well and we were actually breaking the law by playing for money in a bar, which is illegal as hell in our state.The guys volunteered to provide the cash, so that meant if we lost this guy I didn't know very well would lose money, so that was freaking me out. Well, my partner and I were losing and my friend went off on me for playing poorly, telling me to watch my partner's eyes to see what to play and generally yelling at me. I couldn't even see my partner's face because of the light hanging over the card table, but (I'm ashamed to admit it) the unfair and completely unexpected attack that went on for at least 10 minutes made me cry. Not sobbing, but lots of sniffling. It was very obvious to everyone in the entire bar that I was crying except my so called friend. After we lost one of the guys told her she should take me home, but she told him I was fine and then lectured me all the way to my house. It was fucking miserable. I learned three things from that night 1) never play cards for money, 2) always drive yourself because you most definitely do *not* want to be at the mercy of someone else when you want to go home, and 3) never to play any kind of game with her again and I haven't. Yes, she had been drinking and that was why she actually lectured me out loud and she felt kind of bad about it the next day. However, she still maintained that I was playing really badly and should have played better. That was at least 15 years ago and even today there is no way in hell I would play a game of tic tac toe with her. Her ex husband and her older son are just as bad as she is. I suppose her older kid couldn't help his genetic inheritance since her ex is his father, but the example they both set for him didn't help one bit.

[@keepdancingmaria]

Her tip ISN'T good enough. If she doesn't like that fact, maybe she should change that fact, i.e. tip more.

[@angietyndall7337]

Dominos Drivers need the tips. They get minimum wage. There is great wear & tear on their car,which is their own vehicle btw. My dad was one for awhile. In the U.S. tipping is 15-20%.

[@indianspartan76]

Story 4 really just triggered me haha 🤦🏽‍♂️