Tom Cruise & Suri | Do Scientologists Love Their Children?

[@AndrewGold1]

Well, do they!? Let me know below

[@thomkatt3385]

probably in varying degrees. and even that can change when the relationship is put to the test. a bigger question would be: how can anyone call an organization a religion (or defend it) when they test a parent's love/dedication to their children by forcing them to make that choice?

[@nickrich56]

Love; as defined by Xenuites is not what anyone else who can function in society experiences. Love for a puppy or a pet rock has as much meaning to them as that for a fellow human. It's about self and all others can fend for themselves. Cruise is locked in and has faith in himself and is full of himself. His kids are better off without his madness in their lives.

[@astralclub5964]

Oxytocin flows into a mother’s body after birth which in mammals causes bonding with children and each other.

[@melstiller8561]

Well, I think they do. How else can someone like Cruise and Travolta pass for thinking beings, while their vapid minds float above all the millions they are forced to fork out to the cult that has them by their short and curlies?

[@michellemooresings]

Ha ha. "Oh well. There ya go."

[@dawn6232]

Not all parents are hardwired to love their children. Narcissists don’t love or attach, they objectify and manipulate.

[@Prodigy68]

Sure, but most cult members are not narcissists and they do need to suppress their feelings for their children.

[@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied]

No duh. That’s the exception, however, NOT the rule.

[@kel2700]

Aaron has educated me so much on Scientology. It’s fascinating & creepy at the same time.

[@alyzu4755]

TC's love for his kids seems highly conditional. His adopted kids are in Scientology, and he's turned them against Nicole Kidman. His daughter, in particular, is all-in, and he seems very proud of that. Meanwhile, he seems to be out of Suri's life completely. Which is better for her.

[@daabee236]

I didn’t bond to my son automatically and I loved him. It was just scary for a couple weeks.

[@nickrich56]

"she said: Very well done." ... "What's the difference?" .... such a nice way to introduce another of your videos with Aaron about this topic. Very well done Andrew!😉👍

[@AndrewGold1]

haha thanks nick!

[@hennisincoff502]

Totally the way a cult manipulates their believers to choose them & their ideology over their children & their parenthood..great explanation Aaron

[@Dandelionfleur]

I always thought that repressing emotion was neurotic... Let it out folks, you can do it! As far as children go, I've only had one, the second I clamped eyes on her, I fell deeply in love. Nothing can compare to that emotion.

[@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied]

Well, the love you feel about your second child, and third and fourth, etc. certainly can. I hope you don’t spoil this poor child, for God’s sake.

[@Dandelionfleur]

@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied She is all grown up, a kind hearted, thoughtful, intelligent young womanl

[@cara2676]

I've always given Cruise credit for being an excellent actor, but as a human being I think he's horrible.

[@daabee236]

Too bad he can’t act kind 😂

[@cara2676]

@@daabee236 Good one!

[@daabee236]

@@cara2676 I’m so glad you got the humor! I always sweat comments on the internet lol 😂

[@cherrytraveller5915]

His movies are all the same. He has been desperately trying to prove his manliness for years now. That is why the stunts have become more extreme. And yes he is a horrible human being as well

[@wendybond2848]

He tends to play very similar characters.

[@valeriebrown4769]

No Andrew, as the Mother of 2 adult children, the attachment you feel for your newborn cannot be put into words. For me, it was a visceral feeling that you cannot fight against. People can divorce from their partner, however, once you become a parent it is forever. Think about this before you bring a child into this world.

[@Kreepyb5]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Kreepyb5]

You are exactly spot on!!" There are no words " to explain the love I feel for my boys!! Can't describe in mere words

[@cherrytraveller5915]

Unfortunately not everyone feels that way. You love your kids from the moment they were born and there is nothing wrong with how you feel. All I am saying is not to assume everyone thinks and feels the same way as you. For every ten kids that are born you will get at least one rejected by the mother

[@Kreepyb5]

@@hannahreynolds7611can't really " generalize " when it comes to babies, bonding, because everyone has a different physiology. But I do agree with the bonding

[@Stray..]

Considering how many parents kill and abuse their children, I think it’s safe to say that not everyone bonds on the same level or even at all.

[@jamesblahut5008]

That's an excellent photo of Tom Cruise. He's beginning to look like the picture of Dorian Gray.

[@devushkab06]

I like your point about feeling that instant love for your child. That it might be a learnt feeling. It was not instant in my case. The relief of him being born and the labour being over was. Realization of a huge responsibility came next. Tenderness. Love was later once I started getting to know him. I spoke to other moms and I was not alone in this. So I find it is an interesting subject - how scientologists take it, what do they feel after a child is born and how much their beliefs affect it.

[@aderynzajicova7230]

I think every birth is different in this as in so much else. Depending on the birth and everything else going on around it can determine whether or not you bond instantly. I did with one but it took longer with the other. It should be a reality that is recognised and even expected so parents don't experience unnecessary guilt.

[@Old_Scot]

Isn't it a feature of cults to distort family life? Polygamous communities are very patriarchal, and notoriously frequently disown their adolescent sons because they don't want competition for young girls preventing old men from trading their daughters to each other. US states where polygamy thrives end up with thousands of teenage boys rejected by their families. And, by the way, I agree that we learn to love our children. The historian Lawrence Stone wrote about Elizabethan England. He suggested that a society with a high rate of infant mortality almost "hold off" loving their babies because they can't be sure they would survive.

[@lesliewinchester8225]

I think your a man. Women biologically are suppose to breastfeed which shrinks their uterus and nourishes their child. To properly do so, breastfeed, releases love hormones and the bond is made.

[@jdice6868]

It's natural, but not instantaneous, and it is different for everyone. Postpartum hormones can promote the connection in mothers, or in a few cases, block it. In fathers, it can happen quickly or over time. There is no right way or wrong way, so long as you provide security, nutrition, safety, warmth, love, etc.

[@UncleKennysPlace]

I wonder is Scientology simply attracts people with certain mental, um, outlooks.

[@prettyinpinky5937]

That Keto doctor and his wife treated their son terribly according to him…so I’m assuming not really loving your children in the normal sense of the word is just what happens in that Cult! I mean didn’t Mike Rinder lose a child and he was just like oh well🤷🏾‍♀️ when I lost a child I was broken and couldn’t function for months and I’ve loved my daughter from the get go (I’m not from the West I’m African).

[@sheryldalton8965]

I don't know the statistics but fillicide has become much more common than in years past. There seem to be many parents these days with no maternal instincts but they keep having kids, mainly for financial benefits.

[@deeqtpie]

I think the only parents who need to "learn" to love their kids are narcissists!😐 I love mine with every bit of my being...💞

[@valeriebolejack5957]

The one thing I don't understand is if Katie fired everyone, why didn't any of them, or their higher ups, tell Tom? It was apparently a week and Katie was able to contact him. I've lived in Iceland and there are very remote areas, but a film crew would not be in a no communication area.

[@imaginempress3408]

I would thinks she fired them once she was off the plane in NYC.

[@newasblue1981]

I don't think anyone knows the exact time line of how it all played out. It's a bit of speculation.

[@courtneyawalsh]

Pretty sure Tom Cruise & Miss Savage are about to get fair gamed by karma.

[@rebeccablakey2637]

From the moment that I knew my children were coming into the world I was excited. I loved them and nurtured them while I carried them and love them more everyday that I have them in my life. I hope that parents in the Scientology church feel the same way and love their children. I think about the number of abortions that the sea org members do and have done. Those children didn't get a chance to be born. This was an interesting discussion and definitely is a very open ended question.

[@michaelroberts4677]

Just know the world has a 4 billion population most children are not loved or even to be

[@benjaminperez1149]

Let Tommy be who he wants to be; delusions and all. However, disowning one’s daughter because of a refusal to throw a 7 year old into a nautical concentration camp and throwing a fit over it is just wrong.

[@donnariahi2975]

I think the parents love their children, but Scientology makes it difficult, WTH it’s crazy belief system.

[@revertinthemaking]

I think you are both very intelligent people, and I would one day like to have my own channel, and interview each of you separately. One of my questions would be around why you would generally categorize and/or take as fact, the stereotypes of the various workers states -- in this podcast it would be saying China would drown children re. the one child policy. You are not atypical for westerners to hang on to such stereotypes and inaccuracies, but I expect better. I don't really expect an answer here or ever, but perhaps one day. It is a goal. Love you both.

[@AndrewGold1]

Hi Kim, the point was that it happened. It happened in China. There are many other examples of humans doing bad things to their children too. That's why I mentioned others. My point was not categorising or stereotyping - it was the complete opposite - it was a point about HUMANS, no matter where they are. Love you too x

[@governingbodylanguage2025]

6:30 Oh well what can you do? 🤣 OMG. Quintessentially British. But, really these cults re-enforce narcissistic tendencies, and properly ignore bad parenting. I remember now, these looks from adults from when I was young, under 13. I didn't know how to interpret them, but it was looks of worry and pity. That's how bad my parents were, but in a cult you don't report on people to the authorities. When I was 13 we changed congregations, and those worrying looks went away. I think because the new congregation was more callous and didn't care.

[@suziehill9361]

That is so sad, tom cruise disownes his daughter suri. Crazy

[@audreyroche9490]

As a mother coming from a background with narcissistic mother my boy means world to me I be lost without him I think people who don't bond with thete kids either have narcissism oe mental health issues or come from abusive backgrounds noone needs to show u how to love it does come naturl

[@pjj9491]

You think w all that $...he could find a good dentist...my dentist says his teeth give him the "all overs"...lol

[@cathy_clarinet]

If you’re talking about Tom Cruise, he’s not normal in any way.

[@AlmaMariaRinasz]

Where is the full interview with Aaron? Please and thank you 😊

[@AndrewGold1]

think it is this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXurc42fqb-fesk

[@Kreepyb5]

I really really am curious about this, 5 beautiful young men hereAND THEY ARE PART OF ME❤️❤️💯that said?!??? That's a big issue I have about children....... In scientology....😞😞😞kids can't understand these things and don't deserve this😍TC IS SIMPLY TAKING CARE OF HIMSELF

[@sadiejosiemom]

I guess it's no coincidence that the ad at the top right of the video is for Scientology?

[@allenschmitz9644]

Kristie dies and has a net. worth of 40 million so after lawers does xenu git the remainder c/o David Mc choosen.

[@MaeiaT]

Tom cruise' personal life, his beliefs, his relationship with his daughter are all his personal choices and his business. Why can't we just leave him alone? And focus on more important issues in our society?

[@AndrewGold1]

He heads up a cult that destroys the lives of countless people and breaks up families.

[@MaeiaT]

@@AndrewGold1 he's not the only one leading that cult.. There are more people, why doesn't anyone talk about their personal life? Ever?

[@michaelroberts4677]

Tom Cruz is so sad a typical Hollywood story

[@jercasgav]

I understand what he meant...under typical conditions we are mammals that invest a lot in our young, and thus we attach and release hormones etc...it is a biological thing as well as a choice thing. We humans tend to have human tendencies/norms because we come with bodies.

[@courtneyawalsh]

Nope. Neither do Satanists. You’d never hurt or walk away from your kids if you loved them.

[@qsita]

Why did it finish so abruptly? Now I will never know what the difference waa between “Congratulations” and “very well done” 😅

[@AndrewGold1]

It should have popped up in an end screen no? I made that into another video !

[@audreyroche9490]

And if I was in a cult as a grown adult I do everything to get out of it like Katie she put the kids first

[@STONESGAM]

Cruise is very committed to his projects as an actor but he has been wealthy and famous and in scientology for so long that he surrounds himself with yes people and he is so used to getting his ass kissed all of the time that he doesn't seem to know how to handle it when someone challenges or disagrees with him. He seems to have a my way or the highway attitude in his personal life. And he seems to have no issues with phasing people out who aren't going along with scientology or marching to the beat of his drum. And unfortunately this seems to extend to family and even his children in certain instances.

[@Lucybgirl]

At one time wasnt Tom Cryise Catholic and wanted to be a priest? I guess he didnt know or believe the Bible stating to beware of false prophets and also how children are so precious to the Lord and he judges very strongly if one mistreats a child which is what he has done to all three, I guess it is more important for him to have Niscaviage be his yes man and praise him and kiss his behind Tom is a waste of a human body They say Narcissist end up alone Even then his arrogant self righteous self will never admit he was the cause of the hurt he has inflicted No sympathy for him It will be good riddance!!!

[@222radar]

Maybe Katie and Tom don't want Siri in the press. That would make sense for being a reason we don't see him spending time with her.

[@carol-leelane721]

Personality disorders may trump parental love, but for most mothers emotional bonding with an infant is immediate and overwhelming. Can political, patriarchal, religious and cult socialization interfere with or distort it? Sure. But maternal/ infant bonding is our human default setting. I can’t speak for men, though it seems pretty powerful and immediate for most of the men I’ve known. Let’s not generalize the pathological as the normal. It might be the average, but it’s not the normal.

[@hollyhayes9640]

Unfortunately, I believe that personality disorders distort the way that people are capable of experiencing such emotions. 😢

[@luxeford547]

Pondering: is Cruise Miscarriage 's BFF just because he can finally look down on somebody physically? /6'3"

[@luxeford547]

@@vato2030 no

[@queenslander954]

Not enough to leave the cult when they wanted out , Seeyar You Two , have a nice life , Tom is staying with the Nutty Cruse Ship.

[@atticusblau3788]

his relationship to his other children is quite close and I guess its difficult to have/keep a connection if you are in this scientology-bubble and you cannot involve your child. from his point of view he doesn't know what to do and to talk to her. I think its interesting that tom cruise often is looked at in a more critical way than others. I don't like that and I do believe a lot of the things are true, but I sense "bully" way when its about him.

[@bitwize]

Scientologists love just like other people do, because they're humans. They may be taught that basic human emotional needs are wrong, that they're the result of engrams or body thetans or whatever that need to be audited out. That makes the religion all the more torturous to live under because it means that just doing fundamentally human things can mess up your case on the whole track and lead to increased sec checks and having ethics put in on you for your O/Ws, etc.

[@steelpainter]

A spectrum of variability in attachment to biological children is normal in healthy families is normal. Some parents feel overwhelming love the millisecond they first lock eyes on their newborn and go through early parenthood on an easy, oxytocin-powered autopilot. Some parents, especially mothers, struggle with post-partum depression and even though they love their children deeply and would sacrifice their lives for them, struggle with periods of immense frustration and self-doubt about their role as parents. We're all different - and as in all aspects of human behaviour, there is a percentage of tragic dysfunction. While genetics and hormones play a huge role, cultural norms exert a much larger force on how we approach parenthood than we might feel comfortable admitting. The twentieth century has seen a massive drop in infanticide in many countries - it was shockingly common only 150 years ago. Google Infanticide if you wish to know more. I feel, as we progress as a species, our parenting is improving enormously, albeit forwards, backwards, forwards again. Socially isolating authoritarian cults are a backwards pull.

[@m4d2h0]

I still don't think Suri is Cruise's bio child. She looked an awful lot like Chris Klein when she was younger. Katie was dating Chris up until right before she married the church.

[@newasblue1981]

She looks just like Tom

[@Imaginehello7799]

You're blind. Look up Tom as a teenager, that is basically Suri lol

[@stephaniedescoteaux4759]

They don't love their kids enough.

[@melstiller8561]

Scientologists like Tom Cruise are the perfect example of people who suffer from a split personality disorder.

[@Kreepyb5]

Tired 😉🤘🏻🤞🏻🫶🏼? Up late Andrew!?!☺️😍😁

[@Kreepyb5]

Not fir me!! As mama giving birth???? You forget the awful pain when see you beautiful miracle??? And I agree, there are parents whom don't feel that.... I can't comprehend.... truthfully....

[@OumaManders]

Chevron Deal

[@MissPerriwinkle]

fun when u 2 do shows 2gether......

[@MaricaAmbrosius]

What if people who never were scientologists spoke against it in public?

[@lesliewinchester8225]

I have decided to write Scientology church over David Miscavige and Tom Cruise needing further auditing for failure in marital relationships which is just the funniest thing ever that they would fail in the public eye over ethical matters. I hope they enjoy paying dearly for the endless auditing they will need.

[@ilfautdanser9121]

love of children isn't learned, it's unlearned, whether that be through a cult, social conditioning, narcissism, etc. how would it be evolutionary adaptive if we only loved our offspring by accident of condition? oxytocin does the job unless something interferes.

[@annette2326]

Maybe the bigger the sacrifice (not seeing your children) the greater the glory?

[@gregandblakeharris6691]

👏👏👏👏👏❤👏👏👏👏👏

[@thomkatt3385]

off topic, but based on that picture of tom cruise, they don't appear to love the dentist (a lot like batshit hubbard).

[@georgelayton6641]

Not as much as they have been trained by Hubbard's vanity enhancement program to love themselves.

[@Project.X7]

🦎 lol

[@audreyroche9490]

U find people who more interested in making money and working there way uo in life are more than likely be less bonded with there kids not everyone should have kids that's for sure sone people never have enough money on lower scale it's normally addictions and mental health why people don't bond a child can be narcissistic as well take after family members more than likely u can't bond with a grown child if they have narcissistic traits or full blown as they don't like ti show affection are more interested in themselves

[@Suew0991]

I don’t think Suri is biologically his.🧐

[@leticiabromley6013]

He is. Suri looks equally like both Katie and Tom, absolutely.

[@audreyroche9490]

No lol not invention it does help if u have a bond with the das unfortunately if he an asshole and child's like him I could imagine it be hard to bond lol

[@suzetteperkins1089]

NO

[@Kreepyb5]

My thoughts.... not yours 👍🏽🤞🏻🫶🏼

[@carolynluckas1219]

Guess what. Cruise IS NOT Suri’s biological daughter. It’s Chris Klein.

[@jodyjackson5475]

🤔. Something Backwards?

[@leticiabromley6013]

She's Cruise's child. You can see both Katie and Tom in Suri's face, absolutely.

[@justsayin5609]

Andrew you are SO WRONG that parenting is learned. Just look to the animal kingdom to see nurturing, guiding and rearing their young. That being said, so many parents don't deserve their children b/c they're so messed up raising youngsters twice so!

[@AndrewGold1]

plenty of animals eat their children. i didn't say parenting was learned - but loving one's child might be for some people. it doesn't mean it wasn't instinctual for you. but other people.

[@joer8380]

Why is it the world’s business? Get over it.

[@debbiezatterberg5481]

CRUISE IS whimmpy little man!!! HE CAN SCREAM AT PEOPLE ALL HE WANTS..LITTLE MAN!!!

[@scorpio4080]

The thing I don't understand about this channel is this; people are shitting on Mr Cruise as a person because of his choice in religion. If you don't like scientology so much, why not go after or expose the religion rather than continually make this channel a gab or rumor session about Tom ? Tom happens to be a great entertainer. I never see him spouting off his political views on social media or really complaining in general about anything at all. He's paid by fans like me for his art and nothing more. What is the personal vendetta against Mr Cruise ? This channel is so bizarre. Did he wrong you personally somehow ? Why the hate for one guy rather than the group who are misleading so many ?

[@AndrewGold1]

He basically keeps that religion afloat. Without him, it crumbles. And it's not a religion, it's a cult. I'm an atheist, so I'm not a fan of either...but there are clear distinctions, and scientology is as bad as it gets.

[@scorpio4080]

@@AndrewGold1 I happen to be an atheist myself however didn't feel it relevant to my criticism. Since you brought it up, I would agree that I too feel this is a cult as most religions are. It just seems strange that you're targeting Tom himself with a kind of water cooler or back room trash talking session. I don't know Tom personally and I'm no fan of following any organized religion / cult, but I struggle to make the connection between you having what seems like a personal issue with Tom himself rather than the group he belongs to. Tom has probably been struggling with personal issues for years and this is his therapy, even though many of us, you and I included, think this is a terrible group to be a part of. I guess my point is why not target the cult itself than the poor guy who is blindly following along ? Tom's mind, I'm sure, has been altered by this group. I would want to help the poor guy rather than criticize him. I'll keep watching your channel in hopes you can clarify your end goal with these videos. To address your last statement about '...scientology is as bad as it gets.' I couldn't disagree more my friend. The worst it gets is the death cult that is Islam. I know that statement will anger a lot of people but Islam is the most destructive 'religion' mankind has made-up.