Graham is a great tuner. He did a great job on my wrx! He knows his stuff.
@Depthcharge873 жыл бұрын
As a big Subaru fan, I've always wanted that rumble. This video helped me make the decision, as a daily driver to buy the headers.
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, do what makes you happy!
@richardvargas3308 Жыл бұрын
How’s the WRX as a daily?
@stanfordbrown3397 Жыл бұрын
@@richardvargas3308 I’m stock for the most part except only for wheels, coils, and an exhaust atm but it’s a fun daily. I’m at 91k miles and i haven’t had any issues with it so far 😬 just be nice to the car and keep up on maintenance
@c.j.cameron18203 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the honest review
@ChristianHudnell3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys! I was gonna order these but went a different direction. Can’t wait for my 2021 Subaru WRX STI to come in. Will use more of your products on it. Thanks for being awesome
@ChirpingChocobo3 жыл бұрын
personally, I'm not building my car for high Horse Power and love the sound of the Boxer Rumble so Tomei UEL Headers are a must for me!
@micko91112 жыл бұрын
Do the tomei add more power then the stock ones?
@ChirpingChocobo2 жыл бұрын
@@micko9111 yes but make sure you get a tune to enjoy that extra horsepowa
@qttrikzy5303 Жыл бұрын
What type of tune do I have to get or what do I ask for when I get to the shop ??
@ChirpingChocobo Жыл бұрын
@@qttrikzy5303 any tune done by a shop is usually called a Pro Tune but just tell the shop you have new mods, tell them what kind of new mods u have and just ask for a tune to accompany those mods. Side Note: Usually, people just ask their shop of choice to give them a tune that will give them the most Horse Power without hurting the motor.
@qttrikzy5303 Жыл бұрын
@@ChirpingChocobo thanks man I appreciate it gonna get that done & you recommend the tomei uel headers. But quick question does it affect the twin scroll turbo or not
@drahkas85263 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been running the UEL for a bit over a year now. Was tuned for 300whp on 91 before and they had to go a tad bit more aggressive with the tune to keep it at 300. It's definitely NOT a power mod. But, if you're like me and not going for sky high numbers, then it's well worth it for the sound. 120k miles on the car and it's still running like a champ.
@jovannyalvarado15803 жыл бұрын
Off topic but have you ever had any issues with the transmission?
@drahkas85263 жыл бұрын
@@jovannyalvarado1580 I've never had any transmission issues. But I don't launch the car all that often. Launching and resting your hand on the shifter while in gear are what usually kill the split case trans. They can't hold excessive HP, but someone breaking their trans purely because of that is rare.
@jovannyalvarado15802 жыл бұрын
@@drahkas8526 okay good to know you got to 120k with no issues ! I Was worried about reliability when buying a Subaru coming from Honda and Acura
@alexvargas41142 жыл бұрын
Hey have a question do you have Instagram or any way to contact u about the UEL bc i just got mines
@joonkim53312 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. My WRX is my daily driver, and I could careless if it doesn't make the most power. My goal with my WRX was to make a FUN and ENJOYABLE daily driver that I'd have fun driving DAILY. Basically Full Bolt On Stage 2+ (probably gonna get an e-tune/protune as last mod after TGV/EGR delete and 3 port EBCS) and at around 300whp my WRX is fucking fun as hell to drive daily.... I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on these UEL's
@ParagonPerformance3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by our facility!
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having us!
@j0cr0z3 жыл бұрын
thanks for an honest video.. killer bee will be something in my radar for sure
@graves56962 жыл бұрын
Wow good vid great product clarity no bs. Sounds sooooooo good 👍🏼
@brianmoy46813 жыл бұрын
Graham is one of the best in the business!!
@ThuGfunk3 жыл бұрын
You guys do gods work.
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
We try!
@pistons_n_pizza81742 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the information here
@asherschartel6273 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys very informative video you have my like
@kuamwang3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review.
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
Always!
@sircusboy3512 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if I should buy this and what my tuner would have to say about putting this on my 2015 wrx. Then, I saw that this is my tuner! Lol, thanks for always helping me out, Graham! -Randall from Bolivar, MO
@SubiSpeed2 жыл бұрын
He's the man!
@builtsubarusti74083 жыл бұрын
Got my UEL on my 2019 STI. Power is perfect with my blouche 3.0 and still have that old Subaru sound all the car people that remember the bug eyes brand new and all wanted.
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
It'll always be an iconic sound!
@Slowsti67011 ай бұрын
Got a 2019 Sti. What headers did you get?
@Kouangs_Productions3 жыл бұрын
That's my tuner!!!!! Oh my gosh this made my day
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
He's one of the best!
@jromt49883 жыл бұрын
Well it sounded cool
@connordunckel85442 жыл бұрын
looks like your rods will enjoy these headers letting the boost come on later
@greensoundroom3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@Davethehorse3213 жыл бұрын
Killer B headers still sound really good too! Just doesn’t have that rumble, but for an increased about 30 HP, I’d say it’s worth it.
@Dragunov3022 жыл бұрын
UEL or die
@SimonPhoenix20222 жыл бұрын
5HP max gain with headers on 15+
@thisjustanother2 жыл бұрын
@@Dragunov302 did you ignore the entire portion of this video with the tuner speaking highly against UELs? you're the ignorant one lol
@GasEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@Dragunov302Rice (UEL) vs performance….
@sucnipii6834 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you
@roygonzalez43133 жыл бұрын
Graham!!! The man!!
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
Yes he is!
@jon-umber2 ай бұрын
Super helpful video.
@deanthakid98033 жыл бұрын
so based on what happened,I don't track or auto cross my wrx,dam thing sits for 6 months out of the year lol 😆 I think ill try headers, that loss of power and still be in mid 300 range is pretty 👌.
@bryetube862 жыл бұрын
Awesome video family! Where can I get those rear fender vents?
@ranran22183 жыл бұрын
Yo that was Graham at boosted performance wasn't it. Iowa native here 🤙
@NamNguyen-hg6mk2 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome! What mufflers do you have?
@jGRite3 жыл бұрын
That's who tuned my car.
@paulmarsdensr10953 жыл бұрын
A great video. Equal length headers all the way.
@matt2244 Жыл бұрын
Thinking of doing just a down pipe and this UEL Header on my stock 19 wrx. I don't race or track I just cruse around also not hard on the car and do a road trip once a year. Plus it's a daily. Stock at 263 even if the heads and down pipe get me close to 280 I would be happy with that.
@ZZPxFTW3 жыл бұрын
He says comparable, but it’s still all different parts. I’d love to see an actual direct comparison on these. I think you’ll still gain power over stock, and a twin scroll is useless on uel headers, so obviously the boost will come on later. 400 rpm later isn’t bad at all though.
@imct73873 жыл бұрын
Bren Tuning fav reviewed this mod in Dec 2020, although no data was provided.
@honkhill1355 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the tuner, EL is the way to go for low end torque and a smoother power band, I dunno what it is about the EJ but the UEL works with it. Probably because the turbos are different and an EL works better with what looks like a tiny turbo in my WRX compared to what is sitting in my GD8s engine bay. So if you want to stay stock with your WRX on the turbo stay with EL headers, because we are dealing with bolt on tunes here. Both engines are boxers but they are very different.
@baileybehzadi23083 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do a review on the Sparco chrono seats or recaro speeds considering them for my STI
@matthew49043 жыл бұрын
Curious how this compares to stock headers rather than killer B. I'm guessing it the difference would be muted slightly
@triton3023 жыл бұрын
Sounds great, but I'd rather have the performance of EL headers especially with the twin scroll on the WRX.
@Dragunov3022 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you wanna sound like a civic
@triton3022 жыл бұрын
@@Dragunov302 cool story bro.
@CMyLongShot21 күн бұрын
@@Dragunov302sounds more like an Evo than a civic 🤦🏼♂️
@justinlin75462 жыл бұрын
Hi, are you able to do a long term review of the UEL if they are still on the car?
@ridetheyoshi3 жыл бұрын
Could you guys add your full mod list for the WRX that got tuned? Thanks!
@Jeremy-lv3mh3 жыл бұрын
I ran these for about 2 months with almost the exact dyno numbers and it was a blast to hear that rumble again, but definitely swapping back to stock headers now. Not worth the power loss and overall efficiency in my opinion!
@coolienextdoor45713 жыл бұрын
Inefficiency*
@xrexkinect3 жыл бұрын
@@coolienextdoor4571 “power loss and overall efficiency” meaning lose of efficiency also
@coolienextdoor45713 жыл бұрын
Or inefficiency Lmaoo
@jessel12173 жыл бұрын
@@xrexkinect - Coolie would be correct.
@waykool6982 жыл бұрын
@@coolienextdoor4571 who cares
@-slurmdaddy-81473 жыл бұрын
Woah is that graham? He tuned mine
@CostaDoinBusiness2 жыл бұрын
couldn't decide if you wanted to go painted side skirt extension or black ... I have that same problem
@codyhennings6 ай бұрын
I’m going for a good fairly reliable fairly quick E85 build. I’m going bigger turbo, Flex Fuel, Front mount intercooler, top mount oil cooler, J pipe, tune, and supports like head studs. I really want the Subaru sound instead of the civic sound. Is it worth it? Thank you.
@mrch33sehed933 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of "You cant have your cake and eat it too!" 🤷♂️
@josephstrickland18202 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a stock(only catback) 2021 wrx. Is there any ots tune for these? I don’t have access to a tuner in my area. This is a daily driver so not interested in making a lot of power. Just the sound and looks.
@SubiSpeed2 жыл бұрын
No, there are not OTS tunes for this. We'd recommend you get an etune through a reputable tuner.
@Real283 жыл бұрын
Yesssss. I've missed that rumble ever since I sold my 2012. I've had a 2018 WRX and I love the motor but miss the sound. I don't even care about the power loss because mines a DD.
@saccusgalifinaccus31842 жыл бұрын
Did you have to weld that spot where it’s two loose pieces? Because I feel like you are loosing that boost threshold right there.
@j.moneyfilms2 жыл бұрын
No. Thats the slider adjustment in case you wanted to run thicker head gaskets. Allows the manifold to widen out a bit
@suebaru91973 жыл бұрын
Who woulda thought engineers making something more efficient would result in a better performing car? :mindblown:
@1337Painless2 жыл бұрын
So... UEL only for rumble, daily and maybe spirited driving. EL for all around use.
@anotherstar81253 жыл бұрын
Curious… catted downpipe + performance UEL + catback exhaust + CAI and Cobb AP on an EJ25 requires a tune… if I flash back to stock do I have to swap all the parts too to pass smog?
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
We don't have smog tests here in Iowa so we couldn't say.
@whatiwant88983 жыл бұрын
@@SubiSpeed knowing that you guys don't have to worry about emissions, why did you stop selling catless pipes, TGV deletes, and EGR deletes?
@redskoob Жыл бұрын
What wheel/tire/suspension set up do you have on this wrx?
@markdlc08053 жыл бұрын
yo graham!!💪
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
He's the man!
@krstudio6391 Жыл бұрын
What headers do stock 2016 Subaru wrx’s come with?
@only4hw3 жыл бұрын
Thats a r.i.p. Luckily spooling and induction noises sound better than fa engines 😙😙
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
Always love spooly noises!
@jmserrano7472 ай бұрын
@SubiSpeed any update on this car? Is it still running the UEL headers? No problems?
@LankeyCanadian2 жыл бұрын
in my mind the uel made more power but less torque. Too much tq down low is what breaks parts hp nice and high in the rev range doesnt hurt anything.
@joshvaldez84552 жыл бұрын
Is that the OLM high point duck bill?
@micko91112 жыл бұрын
How much does equal length change the subi rumble?
@daddydanko11892 жыл бұрын
I love graham
@SubiSpeed2 жыл бұрын
So do we!
@romariosmith4223 жыл бұрын
I wonder how a single scroll turbo would react to this header? 🤔
@wyattnajecko53003 жыл бұрын
I was playing with the idea of a turbo swap for the single reason. I dont care too much about power, I came from a honda civic. I love the the rumble and I know that the twin scroll makes the UEL a useless trade off
@joonkim53312 жыл бұрын
@@wyattnajecko5300 Then why even waste money on a single scroll if you don't care about power. lmfao. Just run UEL, if your turbo blows then try a single scroll, don't go wasting money getting both right off the bat
@wyattnajecko53002 жыл бұрын
@@joonkim5331 why blow it when I can just take it off and have a spare to sell? WRX and STI are just money pits anyways
@putangnyasheit3 жыл бұрын
I really love those Hikari headlights but driver side dont fit with turboxs fmic
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
They fit with our Grimmspeed FMIC
@putangnyasheit2 жыл бұрын
@@SubiSpeed sounds like you want to give me one to test out if it's true. Thanks😅
@jovannyalvarado15802 жыл бұрын
The passenger side doesn’t fit properly with the oem air intake well I made it work but I had to unbolt it to squeez it in guess it’s time to upgrade
@Pitzky3 ай бұрын
did you install cylinder 4 cooling mod?
@theint73603 жыл бұрын
How about that video about the new headlights?
@thatoneguy98423 жыл бұрын
I have those same headlights on my car. Posted a short about it on my channel a while back.
@theint73603 жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguy9842 how's the light output? Better than stock with led?
@tnyce6163 жыл бұрын
It’s gonna end up with “ringland” 😂😅😂
@Bixnoodle Жыл бұрын
As someone who thinks the FA sounds like dogshit, this was really surprising. I totally dig the way it sounds
@_tokii__3 жыл бұрын
What headlights are those?
@diegocalixto75213 жыл бұрын
What grill is being used on this? Please & thanks !
The purpose of the twin scroll turbocharger works better with the EL headers, an FA will loose mpg and power, the EJ is better with the UEL headers provided it has cyl4 cooling added to it, personally I wouldn't swap the EL's on my FA my mpg is looking pretty good as is with the gas prices shooting up. Tho people will argue that an EJ will perform better with EL than the UEL swapped. The STI would loose the rumble but gain much more mpg and power gains. But I liked the video👍🏼
@englear-ak83333 жыл бұрын
Damn it, you still can’t have your cake and eat it too.
@fadmap9676 Жыл бұрын
What duckbill wing is that
@mikeyoungling61973 жыл бұрын
What rims are those. I would like them for my 2018 wrx! Send me link please!!!
@CreativeUserNme2 жыл бұрын
Gram Lights 57XTC
@salteveline3 жыл бұрын
your WRX is it Manual or Auto ?
@davidf23923 жыл бұрын
Probably manual no point in getting an automatic wrx
@nimowx3 жыл бұрын
Mind sharing what the rims are? Car looks sick!
@Ala7madFilms3 жыл бұрын
I think it's Lightgrams by Rays... Double check!
@KevinVo3 жыл бұрын
Rays Gram Lights 57XTC
@alexvargas41142 жыл бұрын
Would it be bad if you race randomly? Will it like damaged anything?
@alexvargas41142 жыл бұрын
Just got mines in mail
@alexdiego33612 жыл бұрын
How is it?
@alexvargas41142 жыл бұрын
@@alexdiego3361 great i love it
@alexvargas41142 жыл бұрын
@@alexdiego3361 but I probably go back to ELH since i get more exhaust pops but i deff love the rumble
@NcLaxBro302 жыл бұрын
What hood is that
@Vinnyc3nzo3 жыл бұрын
only took a year boys
@KevinVo3 жыл бұрын
better late than never! lol
@Vinnyc3nzo3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinVo hey any chance you can tell me if you guys will be getting restocked with the trunk edge mount APR GTC 300 wing?? Im looking to buy one but cant find one anywhere. Do you recommend just placing an order even though it says out of stock or?
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, we don't have a good estimate on that. As you probably know, lots of manufacturers are dealing with tons of delays so it's hard to say right now.
Sounds incredible. Giving up 30 hp is not even a question that its worth it for the experience upgrade. 30 hp is not going to do anything to you and if you are concerned with its affects on a track car. Well if your track car only has 300 hp to begin with you're doing it wrong.
@KevinVo3 жыл бұрын
My track car only has 170hp 🤣🤣🤣
@KuyaPow626 Жыл бұрын
So the Subie rumble is a sacrifice for performance, efficiency, and parts reliability? Sigh sigh sigh, lots of negatives for just one beautiful positive (Da rumble!!!)
Here's an exceedingly stupid question. UEL + Single Scroll "upgrade" = Rumbly Profit?
@AllTimesLucky3 жыл бұрын
The turbo is already “single-scrolled” by the UEL. Exhaust pulses arrive unevenly. Changing turbos won’t make it better or worse. You will get the rumble and lose the power, just like in the video. -Andrew “Warranty”
@ClassifiedGarage3 жыл бұрын
What hood is that?
@KevinVo3 жыл бұрын
OLM
@pw85___3 жыл бұрын
Just get an EJ car for rumble noises
@jovannyalvarado15802 жыл бұрын
Yea
@ivtec4fun55 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't see my broke butt driving a subaru without the rumble.
@AoiKaze20003 жыл бұрын
While I do like the sound... there comes a time when you've got to let go of the nostalgia and embrace the future. Unfortunately, that Subie rumble, as nostalgic as it is, it's one of those things that's better left in the past, especially on the modern systems.
@lecoureurdesbois863 жыл бұрын
Nahhh
@dr.ticklebum23853 жыл бұрын
Yeahhh
@juncarreon4073 жыл бұрын
Nahhhh
@profanecreation19972 жыл бұрын
Nahh
@Slider7122 жыл бұрын
Uh....no.
@SubieSqwad3 жыл бұрын
Called it, should've gone with an equal length header. If you're really wanting that subaru rumble, buy a STI, don't spend extra to make your FA run worse.
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
We wouldn't necessarily say it makes it run worse. In reality, it'll like still be better than the stock header as it's less restrictive. It just wouldn't be as efficient as an EL.
@qttrikzy5303 Жыл бұрын
@@SubiSpeed it doesn’t mess up the car at all ?
@markjohnson37373 жыл бұрын
I guess the engineers at Subaru were right…
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
We never said they were wrong! 😂
@sergio54403 жыл бұрын
performance??? nah haha car go brrrr
@NotThatSlow3 жыл бұрын
Moral of this video: Don't be wasting money on sound and a performance reduction, y'all
@sirstudalot203 жыл бұрын
Unless you don't care about performance and want the sound lol. For me, this is such a weird debate. We all know there is loss of performance but so badly want it not to be true. I'm not racing/tracking my car and want that Subie rumble. If you're racing and need performance than keep the equal length lol. Why can't both options just be accepted?? Just wave to your Subie brothers and move on.
@cat740dt3 жыл бұрын
@@sirstudalot20 I loved my Subaru but the community is so sensitive sometimes. It’s like if you don’t want the mod just don’t buy it and go about your business it’s not that big of a deal
@MrBrian4653 жыл бұрын
@@sirstudalot20 it’s not only a loss of power, it also makes your car run worse and makes it less reliable. It’s ricing your car. It’s no different from someone putting a whistle in their exhaust to imitate a turbo.
@cat740dt2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBrian465 i see the point you’re trying to make but a turbo whistle on the exhaust is far more retarded 😂
@joonkim53312 жыл бұрын
That actually wasn't the whole point of the video. If that's what you got from this video, then you either can't comprehend english or you're just immature. The ACTUAL moral of this video aka whole fucking point of this video: "It's your money, it's your car, do whatever mods YOU want that suit YOUR needs" My WRX is a daily driver, I have an R32 GTR as my weekend fun car, so the whole point of my WRX was to get it to a fun reliable power level, seems like FBO with an E-Tune or Protune at around 300-350whp is the sweet spot for the FA20. Currently my car is on a Stage 2+ OTS with turbo back exhaust, and intake. Once I get TGR/EGR delete with a EBCS, and get a Protune or E-Tune for it... I'm done with mods on my WRX, MAYBE I'll get a FMIC.... Maybe.... But I could careless that my WRX makes less power than someone else. It's my daily... The whole point of my WRX build was to build a fun daily driver that I enjoy driving DAILY. That means everything from sound, feel, and looks. Performance comes last. Sound is by far the most important if you want a fun daily driver. But you're probably still young, and that's why you think performance is all that matters. Once you mature, and can afford to have a daily driver you can mod, you'll understand what I mean. Be safe kiddo
@SushiPac3 жыл бұрын
So spend the money on the header and you get no performance gain!!!! So what’s the point???
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
The main point is the Subaru rumble. You can also see that the car still did achieve 350whp which is certainly better than stock.
@sirstudalot203 жыл бұрын
For me, this is such a weird debate. We all know there is loss of performance but so badly want it not to be true. I'm not racing/tracking my car and want that Subie rumble. I want the Tomei headers. If you're racing and need performance then keep the equal length lol. Why can't both options just be accepted?? Just wave to your Subie brothers and move on.
@Jmodderator3 жыл бұрын
Because facts are facts. Choosing UEL is throwing away horsepower.
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
It's not even a loss of power. These will be less restrictive than the stock headers, but obviously less efficient than an EL design. There will always be people who complain. At the end of the day, do what makes you happy.
@sirstudalot202 жыл бұрын
@@SubiSpeed Completely agree!
@redorb60243 жыл бұрын
Take those mud flaps off!!
@SubiSpeed3 жыл бұрын
Why
@sweatyben15502 жыл бұрын
Why not just buy an sti?
@kweightthree3 жыл бұрын
EL Headers on a (non race car) Subaru sound like Doo Doo.
@rainyfields2 жыл бұрын
I would never ever buy a subaru without the rumble, so I just wouldn't ever buy one with a FA. The older ones are way cheaper than the new ones (and all of them look way better anyways imo), so idk it sort of seems like a weird thing to do to an FA engine when it's really clear a person that does this wanted an EJ car to begin with. It's not like people are winning races with a WRX anymore, it's not 2006, so you might as well just get an 06 and be OK with it not being the fastest car on the block. There's better cars to buy for the price if you only care about performance.
@okthen84453 жыл бұрын
The hair ain’t the move Kevin. Telling you as a friend
@KevinVo3 жыл бұрын
It's ok, Reuben, I'm not trying to impress all the Subaru guys out there haha
@gc4ky3 жыл бұрын
RESTOCK THOSE HOODS THO . IMMA KEEP SAYING IT ON ALL YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TILL YOU DO . K . THX., BYE