Too Old To Become An Engineer

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[@krwada]

It is never too late. A very good friend of mine got his PhD in EECS when he was in his early 60's. Now, he is working as a senior staff engineer at the Apple Corporation. You are NEVER too old.

[@ege8240]

wait what? i thought i would be too old if i 'took that action' and get my bs at 23. this comment might have changed my life

[@BlackDragon-tf6rv]

​@ege8240 23?!! Are you kidding me?

[@BlackDragon-tf6rv]

​@@ege8240You have plenty of time mate!

[@John_Smith__]

QED.

[@melissam6037]

Wow that is so inspiring!

[@sethbrown8896]

Age ain’t nuttin’ but a number. Was an EMT/LPN in the military until I was 32. Graduating this semester at 37 with a degree in Geology. Going to grad school next year. Will finish my masters at 39. I already have companies reaching out to me because of the life skills I’ve developed that a 22 year old doesn’t have.

[@gabrielrojas8718]

I am 48 Years, taking college classes. My dream is to become an architect. He should not worry about his age!

[@user-er1eq9nw7e]

@@gabrielrojas8718I'm 62 and I'm still studying Mathematics, Physics, and some so-called "pseudo science" for fun.

[@dday3322]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@timtruett5184]

The data disagree with you. You can get the data from the census bureau. There are huge differences in the age distribution depending on the occupation. If you want to know what the reality is, go to a 50-plus job fair. You will be shocked.

[@danypell2517]

You're so established from such a life experience. A lot of people have no background at 35 but they can turn it around too!

[@chrismcgowan3938]

I am now 75 and still working as a software engineer. I restarted study at age 35 and was about 40 when I started working as a software engineer. Having experience is other areas can be a big help. You have to be a junior for a few years, but you will quickly sour through the ranks. If you are doing something you love doing it makes a huge difference.

[@liliyalas9731]

👏👏👏

[@dinobuzzati3055]

Congratulations chris 👍

[@j2shoes288]

Sour through the ranks? Okay 👍

[@blackcitadel37]

that's inspiring.

[@deadrekkon]

I'm 42 years old and a Junior in college in Mechanical Engineering. This is my first time actually making it through college and I am happy to know that I have an awesome future in engineering. It's never too late and the second best time to do this is now. Good luck to all those pursuing their dream.

[@LutherMahoney]

Keep up the great work.

[@adamhaney9447]

Fantastic job. Get some. Go and do great work.

[@cab3894]

Same here - I'm just now getting a junior software engineering job. I'm glad I still started - even though I started late. The people who hired me were about my age and way ahead of me, but they seem happy to hire a mature professional and teach me the ropes. Just do it - you won't be sorry! 👍

[@matty4natty]

I’m proud of your story. I too am 42 and am inspired to challenge and grow. Cheers 💪🏼

[@GoobNoob]

Hell yeah

[@billlalonde4158]

I’m 38. I currently work as a lead data engineer. 7 years ago I was a senior master mechanic at a Ford dealership. Before that I worked as a banker. It’s never too late. You may have to travel, you may have to go to college, but if you’re willing to put in the work there is no limit to what you can achieve. I’m living proof of that.

[@ernesto8738]

i spent a decade in TV production before changing careers at 30. at 37 it doesn't feel like it would be different if i tried again

[@vladislavovich100]

Time is not on your side

[@jgunther3398]

if you go to school at 40, compared to 20, you'll have better grades -- that's for sure!! that'll help get the interview and the job. as might the more interesting background. it's about the trip, so go for it. (look up story musgrave to learn about the consummate degree collector)

[@ChuddleBuggy]

Lol. People here saying it's never too late, and they're not even in their 40s yet, lol.

[@vladislavovich100]

@@ChuddleBuggy I agree. Let say about 50s or 60s?

[@TheSchoolCircle0311]

this is literally me. im 41 going back to college to study physics. and my goal is to earn a master's in naval architecture/marine engineering. thank you math sorcerer for being an inspiration. its never too late to go back to school. were grown and mature. you've spent lots of years wasting time doing odd things that never made you truly happy. we've got at least 40 more years to live out our passions. GET IT.

[@PeterPete]

Quote - you've spent lots of years wasting time doing odd things that never made you truly happy. we've got at least 40 more years to live out our passions. GET IT. That's the main problem with society; it doesn't help people at an early age to attain their goals and dreams, to develop ambition in people, preferring people to just get a job to make money for other people. The western society is a load of BS!!

[@TheEmeraldDragon113]

Love it, great work, courageous. It’s exactly me too, 16+ years military in an entirely unrelated field, and about to start a physics degree as a now 40 year old civilian. Sometimes I think half the strategy is just shutting out any negativity from people or social influences that try to turn you away from your dreams. Some people are scared to make a change and follow their ambitions, so they try to encourage others to give up in order to validate themselves.

[@victor-536]

@@PeterPeteWhat other society is better in that regard?

[@PeterPete]

I'm not suggesting there is a comparator, I'm just saying society could be so much better for many people 👍@@victor-536

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

Good luck with your studies, you're going to love it. I'm 37, in year 3 of a four year masters degree in physics. Can't believe it's coming to an end soon. It gets better every year, as you progress through the course there are more and more layers of mathematics revealed to you and you develop a greater sense of appreciation of how things work. I wasn't conscious of my age before I started, instead I was concerned that I wouldn't be able to learn at the rate I once did when I was in school. But this hasn't been the case - I find that I am more focused than when I was in school, in older age I have been able to elongate my attention span. I put this down to the countless hours of mind-numbing meetings I had to sit through in my professional life, where I had to be listening out for 20 seconds of information that took the speaker 20 minutes to deliver.

[@xLoB63x]

Hey guys. Im 33 and it is my first year studying mechanical engineering. I am also working at a job to finance my education. I would like to share my thoughts. Even though you are starting late, you have something that the 18 year olds dont. That is experience. I am seeing that this unexperienced "kids" are not studying and not attending classes, just being 18 year olds. You can get ahead very easily. Even though i am working a full time job, i am 20 points over the class average in every subject. Their mindset is there is always another year. But since your mindset will be this may be my last opportunity, you will work your ass off and improve yourself so good that after graduation, you will get a better job and it will take them years to catch up to you. You can easily close the gap. Dont give up, dont overthink. Just do it.

[@ezradoron4773]

What do you think you want to go into when you get your degree?

[@koshka02]

Mate, I am going to screenshot this. Amazing comment. I'm 29 (soon to be 30) and entering my 4th year of Electrical Engineering. I started out doing Life Sciences, not having any direction really at 18. I knew I liked Physics early on, but hadn't even considered Engineering, since all my influence up to that point had been in Cosmology and Biology. But I actually found it to be really boring. So it took a long time to switch gears into EE, and I am extremely HAPPY I did. I've met a few older students a long the way (30+), but most of the people have been in their early 20's. The hardest thing about engineering, I think, is getting into that grinding mindset, to plug away at questions, to not give up, to try and grapple and understand things. It really is sort of the ultimate degree, and requires more work than any of the others. It is very rewarding, and the payout is massive in the end. Its not for everyone though.

[@DanildFlamme]

That's true. I am a handful of years older than you, and I am also studying engineering now. I might not be as mentally sharp now, as when I was in my 20's, so using my experience as leverage is key. Because let's get real here... When you are 20 you "think" you understand the world around you, but you really don't. (I used to be 20 myself). Also, compared to other graduates, who would a company rather hire: - A young 25 year old with a fresh degree, but has never worked a job in their life. - A 40 year old with a fresh degree, and 15 years of work-experience. Obviously the 40-year old is more interesting to hire. Working ANY job also provides a lot of soft-skills, which are not part of a formal degree, and those matters too.

[@TheTruth-cg8vj]

If you're working a job while going to engineering school, you are not really going to engineering school. Any decent school weeds you out if you're not putting in 60 plus hours a week. There was a saying when I was in school" Medical school is difficult to get in but easy to stay in. Engineering school is easy to get in but difficult to stay in." Attrition was about 50% in my first year and an additional 20% in second year where I went. Why is it so high? They have no idea who is going to make it through. Sure, high grades and a high SAT puts you in the door, but after that it's more if the kid as a thirst for the material and can pace himself to get thru. It's the kids who think the work is important and look up to the profs as mentors offering important knowledge, not as slave drivers. Physics 101, based on the two-volume classic Halliday and Resnick text was the weed-out course in my first year, The school even recognized this and tried to alleviate the problem by having classroom sizes of 50/60 students to make the kids not feel so overwhelmed. Some guys hated it, other guys loved it. Guest who finished the degree.

[@Raven_Engineering]

Great comment brother. I’m a little younger, but I feel like I’ve lived 2 or 3 lives in my short time. I’ve owned two businesses, but they didn’t pan out as I expected. I recently started going back to school for mechanical engineering (though I’m considering switching to electrical). I’m married and hoping for kids, so the pressure is on. I’m hoping to be finished with my masters in 3 years. You are correct- most of the young students are so lazy and do not take the material seriously… it’s baffling. I’m really enjoying putting my energy to use in this field, it gives my mind a considerable opponent, and I’m really enjoying it… that being said, I can’t help but feel “behind” often times, being that I started back late. But being that I’ve got real world experience I feel like I see this opportunity in a whole new light. Happy new year!

[@vincentl4691]

It's never too late. I got my bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering in 1984. Worked for the Navy as an ME. Quit, got my master's, then switched careers to work with computers. Fast forward to 2020, got laid off. I wanted to get back to engineering. I NEVER thought I would get another engineering job at 61 years old. But I applied myself and took and passed the fundamentals of engineering test to show initiative and to show I still have some skills. I'm now 62, and have been working as an engineer for a year feeling very fulfilled. Just do it! BTW, one of my coworkers, a new hire, and ME had just graduated at 40 years old.

[@amanpreetsingh6512]

Your journey is very inspiring! I have master's in mechanical engineering from India and just moved to Canada. Can you plz guide me how to appear for fundamentals of mechanical engineering test? And which companies have these test as a selection process?

[@vincentl4691]

@@amanpreetsingh6512 I believe in my case, passing the FE was not a significant factor in getting the job, but it helped. But it showed I still have skills. Will I go for my PE licence? I'm not sure because it is not a job requirement, and I probably will not be signing drawings for approval using my PE licence#. PE licenses are valid in the state that you get them, so I don't know how Canada works. The ME PE has one of three fields to choose but if you pass the FE, you can get your PE in environmental engineering. I paid for an online class to prepare for the FE. It was about $1500 US. There are many companies which require a PE, usually for engineers that are designing things. Let me know if I missed something or if you have any questions.

[@corporal283kd]

you are my man. god bless you and give you the right way.

[@lyaro2000]

You are the man 💪 ! I'm a software engineer from Africa and I work with FAANG , long way I feel you sir!

[@AltIng9154]

Why should you forget your qualifications getting older if not sick? I was 50 something to get an additional uni-certificate . I still can teach maths.... but the question is, could I start off the scratch 40 something? I am Dipl.-Ing. Technical University Electrical Engineering, not meant as boasting, it was a German "redbrick". But who knows? I was familiar with the latest stuff till my last active days. I am in an early retirement scheme now 64. 😊

[@HenryPham-ij5xr]

It’s really never too late to change. I worked with tons of doctors that became engineers first then switched over to the medical field early 30’s to early 40’s and a few even at their 50’s. I had some also start their college career in their 30’s or 40’s as well. The most important thing is do you have a supporting family, spouse, children, how is your finance, and etc? going to school young is the best time because you have less responsibilities but as we get older we gain wisdom and maturity comes along meaning more responsibilities. People tell me you are either smart or you don’t have it. I say that’s not the case most people are average they put time into school because they want to do it and they have to do it for themselves. If you have a supportive family and your finance is not like detrimental yes do it! Go to college why wait and keep dreaming or thinking what if!

[@melissam6037]

Great message! I’m 58 and studying to get back into being a software dev. I was one for 17 years, now for the last 10 years I’ve been doing product management which i regret. Some people have said my skills are old etc, but I realized recently that as long as I’m not dead I want to be learning and moving forward. I’m also re-learning calculus on the side, once I get back into dev, I want to work on Masters in math! After that, who knows that my next goal will be!!!

[@mrPCbuilds.]

I'm 34 and work as a full-time Chef. I also am going to school full-time for Electrical Engineering. There was a point where I sat and thought about if I was too old to change my career. Then I thought about the future, and if I wanted to deal with the regret of not trying. That was the point that I decided that I was going to go for it. I'm so glad I didn't let that voice in my head tell me that I'm too old, that I couldn't do it. I'd rather try to go for what I'm passionate in, than wonder what if later down the road.

[@maiamaiapapaya]

I'm turning 27 soon and I start university as a pre-engineering student in 2 days. I'll be around 30 when I graduate. I'm still young enough to blend in with the 18 year olds in my major but I definitely feel a difference going back to school. The positives are that I'm able to connect with the teachers easier than some of the younger students. I'm also passed the point of being scared to ask questions because I've had more time to grow out of my shyness. The negatives are that I sometimes get stuck comparing myself to my younger classmates, like "why wasn't I good at math when I was that age?" But I'm learning to push those thoughts out of the way and keep studying. I think anyone who is ready to put in the work of going back to school to make a career change should do it. Teachers are ready to help you when you ask for help. They don't care about your past or how old you are. College does not have an age max!

[@BillLehman-qg8jk]

At 51, I graduated with a degree in EE. It did open up more opportunities and I did make the career change, but I am also able to use my previous work experience in my new position. I wouldn’t think of continuing education as changing directions, but more like enhancing your options. There are plenty of opportunities to use an engineering degree in agriculture.

[@kugif3927]

I am 37 now and went back at 35. I had to start back at algebra one. Just finished this semester with a 99% in calc one and a 4.0 gpa. I hope there is a job for me at the end of this. Working 60 hours a week while going just part time has been brutal. I’m doing it so I can be a part of my daughter’s life. I am a restaurant manager so and I work all night shifts. At the very least I can say I realized that I absolutely love math and just enjoy the learning process at this point. I am hoping when I look for a job an employer will appreciate that I made it though school while working 60 hours a week with a family.

[@ericwilliams1832]

Darn 60 hours + school + family is crazy. I admire that

[@TheTruth-cg8vj]

Where I went to school, they didn't even allow part time students. A two-course part time load would mean the full program would take 12 years to get thru, versus the equivalent full time 6 course load, 4-year program. They just knew too much can change over 12 years so why bother giving false hope to a part timer.

[@mikealrodriguez6907]

Hey, I am in a similar position to you and I just wanted to share this for your encouragement. I was 29 when I started college, at intermediate algebra. I attended part time and worked retail full time until I got my AA. Got married and had a kid along the way. When I transferred to the electrical engineering program at my current university, I was given a generous scholarship which allowed me to drastically reduce my hours worked and eventually quit my job. I am now a 32 year old junior, graduating next year, and I have an internship for the coming summer that will pay more than I've ever earned in my life, which has the potential to become a permanent part time job until I graduate. I am also being paid more than my peers who are in the same internship. My significant past work experiences, though technically not at all related to the engineering position, were cited by the recruiter as a key factor in the decision to give me the offer. There are a lot of positions in engineering which require a good deal of maturity and tact that 22 year old grads just won't have. You will have a massive advantage in terms of interpersonal skills, communication, and navigating professional environments and sensitive situations, and companies WILL notice and value that. It can be very discouraging to grind through all the lower level math and prereqs part time for years without any recognition, but it IS worth it in the end. Keep pushing!

[@bass_journey]

I was about to comment the same. This man deserve a documentary about him.@@ericwilliams1832

[@ericcarson342]

Keep going. I also had to start at algebra one (elementary, not even intermediate or college algebra).

[@bjornragnarsson8692]

It’s absolutely not too late. I went to college with a guy first hand who was a former methamphetamine addict and 40 years of age when I was 19. He scored the best out of my class in Calc I and III and became a graduate student at a prominent university in computer science/nanoscience, what has now become quantum computing hardware. This guy still impresses me every time I talk to him and we are both professionally employed as postdocs in our respective fields. So don’t think it’s too late.

[@macanbhaird1966]

Great advice! I am 57 and I have improved my maths with this channel and other sources like Udemy and Khan Academy. I am thinking about changing my career too. Thanks for all your videos and teachings.

[@weissbrot-rg9hd]

Great to hear uncle. I wish you lots of fun for the future!

[@weissbrot-rg9hd]

btw. I am studying business informatics and I want to ask, which programming language would you recommend me to learn how to model data? Should I stick with SQL, R or Python?

[@BabakMusic]

Well put response.

[@corvanhoute8072]

Here, 60+.taking up Calculus. Through udemy, inter alia the math sorcerer, and books.. Wanna do FE exam, but is not possible in Europe...

[@weissbrot-rg9hd]

@@corvanhoute8072 why not?

[@christianschade992]

Do it Nick. I'm 37 and in my junior year of studying chemical engineering. Being older just means you know how to put in the work. It's going to be more meaningful because you understand the value and the intended outcome of that hard work. If you can get your foot in the door with an internship or an interview, companies will like you because you have work history and in returning to school, you have shown how hard you can work. It's never too late,.

[@laidman2007]

"...you know how to put in the work." Isn't that the truth!

[@edwardsmith-rowland2852]

As a 60 year old, I think of a 40 year old as a fetus. ;-) Seriously, If you graduate at 40ish you'll have a good run of 20-30 years as an engineer. I would take someone who has experience and made some mistakes and then went back because they really know what they want over some fresh out who got their degree by default. I bet you'll have a blast - which is the real thing in my opinion. If you're good, you can make a way.

[@barrilha]

This is an excellent comment sir. Thank you!

[@JJGhostHunters]

I graduated in 1999 with a master's of engineering degree in electrical and computer engineering. I went back to grad school and just got my PhD in electrical and computer engineering this past year at age 50. It was the "smart grid" and AI/ML advances around 2017 that interested me in going back to get to get a PhD. My advice is that it is never too late! What I am finding out is that many that obtained their PhDs in their 20's and are now in their 50's have stopped trying to learn and grow. So in some ways just having obtained a PhD has rekindled my love for science and engineering and I feel like it has restored some youth and vigor to my career. Even though I am 50, I am now working on highly advanced AI systems and am looking to write papers and contribute to the field is the highest way that I can. Many of my peers are actually intimidated by newer technology and are holding onto what they learned in the 90's as if they are too old to learn how newer programming languages and develop AI models that are not just statistically based.

[@michatroschka]

what papers did you write? im curious as id like to see practical applications of ai and ml right now in real world use cases. thank you!

[@Ou8y2k2]

Damn, congratulations. I burned out way before 25 and any degree.

[@bvds2007]

It is not too late… but it can be tough. I did exactly that in my late 30’s. From science & IT to Finance and Investments - started at the bottom and it took many years of self-teaching, taking crap from younger colleagues and the slow grind to a point where no one would know I had not started in this field and am at the top of the game. It required a lot of dedication and determination, but was well worth the effort. Go for it.

[@charlesjonesjr1262]

Thank you Math Sorcerer for inspiring so many out there. I recently went back to school and got my Bachelors in Mathematics at the age of 51. Not to sound trite, but if I can do it, anyone can.

[@aggieraz]

As a structural engineer in the U.S., I can only speak from what I've seen in my 15 years of experience. For the person graduating with a BS in Civil Engineering at age 40, they would be competing against 20+ year olds who are expected to put in brutal hours in the field and behind the desk, for entry level pay which is well below 100k. To get licensure, they will need to have 4 more years of experience under the belt (and pass a 21 hour exam), just to get the next pay raise which may get you to the six figures. Ultimately, it takes at least 10 years of experience + licensure to be comfortably past the 6 figure income mark. Following the trajectory described previously, the 40 year old grad, would be 50 years old with all the personal responsibilities that one would expect in that age; they would have had to make lots of personal sacrifices, specially by way of family life (usually this isnt a problem for 20+ year olds).The same model is followed for any of the other classical engineering disciplines, so I'm not sure if this 40 year old grad should consider any of the classical engineering fields at this age. Now, they hand out "engineer" titles to programmers and developers at all companies in silicon valley, with great pay, so I'd think that this candidate would probably be happier pursuing that route.

[@jesantiago009]

I was thinking the same thing. Graduated with a masters in structural at 29 right when I was having a kid and was about 3 years and change working in structural. I loved the field despite the pay. Unfortunately, my priorities changed and had to go into construction mostly because of the pay. I agree with saying it’s never too late. I think the harder part is knowing what the trade offs are at career stage when you’re studying in school. I’d also mention that it’s not all a meritocracy. There’s something to be said about networking and the effect that can have on job prospects. Solving this problem like an engineer would require you to start from the end first. A good suggestion would be to find work adjacent to your interested field or go find a local engineer you think does what you want to do and try asking them. I went to my city engineer and stopped by their office.

[@TexasEngineer]

An engineer is actually a type of person who loves to solve problems. If you don’t like problem solving you will not be a good engineer. It takes 8 to 9 years to become a licensed engineer. Making that change late in life may not be the best choice unless you have some experisnce or education that can shorten that time. It is unwise to wake up one day and think you should become an engieer. A good engineer will know what he wants to be as a child. As a child he will have the “knack” to take thinks apart and put them back together correctly or for a different use. At the age of 40 or more he will move into management and away from engineering and the young engineers will do the actual engieering because they can remember all the math.

[@Ou8y2k2]

Words of conventional wisdom I used to say, but now that AI is killing many junior dev and data science roles, I'm not so sure going the SV route is wise. You'd have to compete with PhDs from all over the world to make a dent in AI unless you find a business opp and create a start-up before then.

[@mikealrodriguez6907]

While this is true for Civil Engineering and its various subfields, for most types of engineers (a lot of disciplines within mechanical and chemical, and nearly every field of electrical and computer engineering) a PE license is unnecessary and not part of your career path. But I agree, it is wise to do plenty of research on what your career progression actually requires before committing.

[@antiquelady60]

Go for it, Nick! I wouldn't say it's *never* too late. 95 is probably too late, but 35? Definitely not. I don't know any engineers, but I have one friend who became a nurse in her 50s and another that became a research scientist in her 60s. I am in my 60s and hoping to be a data analyst. I might not get my dream job, but I got my degree and I'm on the path, so I'm already much happier than I would have been had I not even tried. Follow your heart!

[@laulaja-7186]

Not at 95?! Learning can be fun and productive at any age. Some people still have a decade or two left at 95; that's plenty to work with - most military careers for example are limited to 20 years anyway!

[@johnlanigan5532]

I was a late Mech. Eng, graduate in the mid 1980s and had the same fears to deal with. When I started going to interviews not a single interviewer mentioned my age. Everyone of them were very impressed that I had the courage to quit a well paid job and study for 4 years. I never regretted doing it.

[@connorw360]

Great to hear! Can you put an age to that, how old were you when you started?

[@gregchambers6100]

Yep. I agree. As a 62 yo master electrician with more than 70,000 hours, I'm still fit and sharp, keeping up on the new technologies and codes. I still dig, crawl, climb, walk several miles, bend pipe, carry heavy ladders and power tools, jackhammer, saw cut, core concrete, pull wire, do high work in this very physically and mentally demanding job that I adore. It's freaking FUN!! Sure I haven't worked 26 hours straight in a long time, so I'm not sure of my ability, or desire to do that anymore, I don't think the safety guys would allow it.

[@antiquelady60]

Good for you! I have a friend in construction who is the same way - runs circles around the younger members of his team. I think most people age because they slow down, not the other way around. Thank you for posting!

[@gsmollin2]

Salute! I'm a 73 yo EE, but I remember my days pulling cable with the electrician teams working for Bechtel at the Peachbottom Nuclear Power Station. One of my great achievements.

[@kenfrank2730]

Your post points out that there are other work opportunities that doesn't require a 4 year degree. Instead of starting an engineering degree at age 35 and graduating at 40, I think he should consider a skilled trade such as electrician.

[@markkennard861]

I to am 62 and run my own electrical business. My biggest fear is that's all I know and I'll work till I die. My regret is not being able to code. C in my opinion is as difficult as learning Chinese.

[@gresev2588]

What a powerful, positive message from this video. For those contemplating if it is too late to do something: Reject any notion, idea, or self-defeating attitude that prevents you from living the life you want. I completed my Ph.D. at 57. I was motivated to go after this degree because I had finally gotten to the point in my life where I wasn't going to care about stereotypes, fitting the mold, or accepting things as they were. I now have a rewarding second career teaching engineering and product design, and I couldn't be happier. I am making a difference. Granted, one should always exercise prudence in making any life decision; however, if you have the means and desire to go after a dream (or even a part of it), do it. Don't ever give in to doubt. You can accomplish anything given the interest and the will to do it. Best of luck to all of you in similar decision-making situations. 😊

[@nourawawdeh5592]

I'm currently 29 years old and I worked in hotels for seven years before starting my studies in software engineering at Belarus. Keep up the good work! You're not alone in this journey. I still vividly remember my first day at the university when I had no idea what mathematics was all about. However, with time and effort, I have gained a better understanding, and now I'm even helping other students with their math studies. Mathematics can be challenging in the first two years, but if you persevere and continue learning, you will succeed. Good luck, Nick!

[@kompassorpigo7600]

Software engineers aren't engineers.

[@jigsaw2253]

@@kompassorpigo7600yes they are 🤓

[@GhostApache]

Didn't graduate from college until I was 38. Started my own company in a field I'd never worked in previously at 40. 11+ years later, I make a fantastic living working for myself doing something I love and something that I'm very good at. It is, indeed, never too late.

[@Pclub4ever]

That's an inspirational story. What did you graduate in and what kind of company did you start?

[@GhostApache]

Degree in history from Columbia University. I'm a standardized test prep instructor. @@Pclub4ever

[@00mistacory]

I'm currently on this path towards earning a degree in CS + Engineering in my mid 40's. I stopped at Trig and Physics back in my school days and fast forward, I can say it is a challenge, but it' is fun. My mathematics track has me needing Calc I, II, III, Discrete Math, Linear Algebra, and Differential Equations, and so far I am doing well having completed Calc I and Discrete Math already. I believe it is because as an adult my mindset allows me to focus on the end goal, and being older makes it realistic unlike my approach as a teen where I was easily distracted with all things coming of age. The only aspect in my college journey that is intimidating for me is continued studies towards a master's or even a PhD. As of now, formal research is something I am not interested in due to my preference in tinkering with ideas and ending up with something concrete in my own way.

[@timothybrown80]

This topic is very close to my heart. I started my engineering track in 1992 at 24. I Graduated in 2011 and got my first mechanical engineering job last year at 54. Depression was the issue, and it took me three decades to work through it on my own. That was a mistake. Get help if you need it. Also, you can accumulate years lived and life experience without getting "old" in the sense that employers don't want. "Old guys" are angry and cynical, they don't listen and they create problems for managers. Hiring managers are managers first and foremost and young people are easier to manage. Maintain and enhance your skills. Get good. I recently took a couple of months of evenings and weekends and gave myself a full- blast algebra and trigonometry tune-up and I've never felt better. Calculus is next. Keep moving forward and don't give up.

[@mikedavis979]

I've been battling with anxiety and depression too! I totally agree with what you say! Wish I could give you 100 thumbs up! I started on my MS degree five years after I got my BS, then I sort of gave up for two years, found another advisor (the first one was fine, it was me), and worked on MS and other projects for 8 years!!! And I finished and it was great! Was accepted to PhD program when I was 43, spent 5 years, and for various reasons, didn't finish...but finally found a great job, which my PhD studies and experience helped me get! So yes, no matter how it turns out, more education was always worth it for me! In fact, I'd say my current job is the best I've ever had!

[@rodneycummings1456]

My most favorite mathematician, George Green, didn't start college at Cambridge University until he was 40. Before he became a student at Cambridge he worked in his father's windmill as a miller. When his father died he sold the windmill and used the money to enter Cambridge. Even though George Green earned his degree in mathematics later in life, he was still able to make valuable contributions and discoveries in mathematics. Hence, it's never too late to pursue your passion.

[@TwoHeadedHawk]

Thank you for your comment. It resonates with me even though I'm significantly younger than you. I'm currently in this position, without my first job in the field. I Graduated in 2015. I did awful in most courses, failed several along the way. I didn't want to hang the damn piece of paper on my wall because I felt like such a failure that didn't deserve it. I hated looking at it for a long time, I still kind of do, but more because it makes me sad now. I had convinced myself I would be the worst embarrassment to the profession if I tried to pursue it as a career, so I didn't even try to find a job in the field after graduation. And I'm heavily regretting this now. I'm turning 30 this upcoming spring, and I don't want to live the rest of my life carrying the regret of not having given it an honest to gods effort to make it a career. I realize now with many years of hindsight, that I was probably depressed for the entire program, and perhaps a few other issues to compound it. I'll be talking to my doctor in the new year to get the conversation started, hopefully get some answers to what's ailing me, try to get back on track somehow. If I fail to become an engineer, then so be it, but at the very least I want to leave it being able to say that I genuinely tried.

[@laulaja-7186]

You weren't wrong. Every job I have ever come close to, the hiring interviewers will rule a person out at the slightest hint of any mild psychological abnormality. Especially in times of "economic crisis" and "tight job markets" which is pretty much always. It's why there are medical privacy laws. But then the government jobs (and that's where most of the best jobs are these days) go requiring thorough background checks and demanding to know even if you have ever talked to a shrink. Nope, you have better chances in life if you avoid bringing in a professional on any mental issues. Never mind what the professional shrinks want you to think it will all be fine. Their wallets are the only things that are fine in the end. 😞

[@WarofThoughts]

I've been looking for this fellow for years now (I think it is him anyway). I fell into a Wikipedia vortex one day reading one page then clicking onto the next one and next one and I read that guy's entry. I haven't been able to find it since until I read your comment. @@rodneycummings1456

[@Marva123]

I went back to school for Electrical Engineering (EE) bachelors' degree at 35 years old, after leaving the military and bouncing around the oil field for 5 years. I now have my Masters' in Electrical Engineering and a high paying job in my 40's with lots of experience. I know other people that were much older who started a new career in Engineering, they are doing very well. The Math Sorcerer is right, its never too late, don't talk yourself out of a good future.

[@tonybrown5310]

Thank you Nick for asking this question bc this exactly what I’m struggling with as well!!!

[@Iwatchedyouchains]

I'm 41 and just got my A.S. in mechanical engineering and mathematics and will have my bachelor's in 1.5-2 years, I got some pretty good scholarships too. The alternative would be continuing to work in machine shops for 20-40 years or until I couldn't physically do it anymore. The time would've passed either way. You have the advantage of work experience and maturity and work ethic, work hard and you will do great and be more hireable to most employers than someone younger on average.

[@velvet_bass]

I am 31 years old, recently decided to go back to school (part time for now while working, full time in the future if things pan out). I am pursuing an engineering degree. I was a horrible highschool and community college student, math was my worst subject. Now im acing math classes and enjoying it. It is NOT too late. Im looking forward to earning an education that challenges me and getting a career i can be proud of myself for !

[@JustJulia-qt9nh]

I’ve been a science teacher for ages but I’m so burnt out because of all the extra work we have to do with the lab component of our classes (and no additional prep time). I’m actually thinking about taking some additional classes to become a math teacher instead. The math is one of my favorite parts of the coursework and I love how most of classical math was developed to solve questions of a scientific nature. Mod-life Career changes are no joke 😂😅

[@faaizsiddiqui7906]

Great example ~ happens more than you think. Had a professor who started at IBM with a PHD in Electrical engineering. He left at ~ 35s and became a professional chef. He left cooking ~ 55s to become a math professor where he was teaching me calculus III and spends his time tending to his vast garden. Life is indeed a journey. Always try something new, you never know where you'll find yourself.

[@IngeniousDimensions369]

You aren’t too old to learn a new skill. Continuous improvement is what we are trained. Just be great in anything you do.💯💯

[@giovannacartagena2535]

I used to think it was too late for me to start an undergraduate Astrophysics degree at 35. I just finished my first semester back and I love it, I am so much more motivated and focus now that when I was 18. I am glad to see more people my age trying to pursue the things they love. We can do this!!!!!

[@eesha4564]

looking massive mr.sorcerer. you are truly an inspiration, both physically and mentally...

[@raexn]

I'm about to turn 43 next month, and I'm 2 semesters away from graduating with an evolutionary bio and ecology degree. I just kind of found my joy in mathematics and a passion in physics this late into my degree. I've taken to trying to self learn more on my own so I don't have to go more in debt. I'm also looking into getting a job on campus to possibly take some classes for free to get closer to what I want. It has definitely been working trying to navigate this situation I find myself in now, and I'm still trying to figure it out. I wish you well to any other late bloomers or career changers.

[@draftplus]

I worked through trade school to become a machinist, worked under tough mentors to become a true machinist. I worked through university as a machinist to learn mechanical engineering. I worked as a mechanical engineer while still attending university for 20 years, and under great mentors on great projects spanning a wide variety of mechanical engineering projects. I became competent enough quick enough to be able to complete hundreds of machine design projects, flow measurement projects on my own, and others with great teams. Seems like an enviable and fortunate path for an engineer. I was laid off with many others for being over 50 years old, signing a waiver preventing lawsuit for age discrimination to get severance pay, and now I process orders for gages and fixtures. No one wants an experienced capable engineer. Today they see old, out of date, instead of a wealth of knowledge and experience proven by accomplishments. The only rewarding part of this is that new grads, and mentorless young engineers come to me to solve their problems, and show them how to use their education instead of guessing and trying until something kind of sort of works for some unknown reason. So you can become anything you want to become, at any age, yes. But it will take more effort, determination, persistence, endurance, humility to make a living after year 50.

[@guidichris]

Never too late. If nothing else, enjoy the challenge of learning new skills. Love if a subject can help one to be very proficient. Employers are always impressed with self starters. Nick is fortunate because his current job should not require him to dedicate his entire being to the task.

[@isaacbernardocaicedocastro4835]

Merry Christmas!! I love your channel, I wish your motivation to maintain this channel never falter. Your work is truly inspiring. Thanks a lot!!

[@teewhite7061]

My brother just turned 49 and started a career change. He got hired over two much younger guys as an application developer. He was doing IT help desk before that and got tired of answering phones and troubleshooting tickets. He works out, and looks quite young for his age.

[@netherjosh]

Thanks for the post and congrats to your brother. Kind of a similar boat to me (I'm only 43, but trying to go be an app developer.)

[@paulvalentine4157]

I think many employers would prefer a 40-year-old who chose the engineering path over a 23-year-old whose parents made them get an engineering degree. A lot of people get into the field and walk after a couple of years. I only did design work for 2-3 years before I moved into product management and on an executive path.

[@DD-qv4gj]

I'm in early fifties and taking classes to do similar. My thoughts are you should plan to live a long time and should try to use your given talents as best possible.

[@egobambi6763]

Thanks, MS. Excellent and helpful point of view. It is NEVER too late to scratch a new path. The experience alone will be unquantifiable. Nick , GO FOR IT. Believe in yourself.

[@TheLummen.]

I love this ! It resonates with me as I switched in Software Engineering at the same age as Nick.

[@Hg-201]

I'm currently working on an Electrical Engineering major. I'm nearing graduation, but for various reasons it's going to take me around *9 years total* just to finish my undergrad, and it took me a lot longer than my peers to get into university in the first place. I've never gotten the impression from any of my professors or classmates that I'm getting into it too late. The average age of my classmates is notably higher than other programs at my school, partially due to the discipline and maturity demanded by the subject. I have classmates that are the same age or older than me, some of whom are switching from other scientific or industrial careers. My advisors and professors certainly recommend graduating quickly when possible, but the advantages gained by doing so are not necessary to have a successful career, and bringing experience and knowledge from a previous field can have a ton of advantages as well. If you have the support and stability you need to go back to school, there's little reason not to try and do what you want to.

[@Alex-mg1mh]

I’m 34 years old. I work for The Unites States Border Patrol. I joined when I was 19. I Never had to opportunity to go to college after high school. Now I have a desire to become a computer engineer. 10 more years and I can retire lord willing. I would like to attend college during my last 10 years.The government just started a program that pays for college tuition for government employees. My first class which is algebra I starts in 2 weeks. I m so excited to start this journey. Thank you for this video I feel more confident now.

[@blakegundry]

Math sorcerer can you do another long format video/Livestream soon? Thanks for all the content and motivation. You're enthusiasm about math has helped me decide to go back to school and finish my undergrad in math and I'm going to get a PhD in math after, and become a professor. ❤

[@frank6048]

You're amazing, I've also seen your videos on spanish, I think you're a great contribution to the spread of knowledge

[@eccentricorgan]

He should get out of that customer service job and into something technical where he can gain some working experience for his new career goal. Not only can he make up for the lost time, but also obtain some perspective along with his new studies so when he graduates, he can show some experience as well. I'm five years older than him and that's what I'm doing. It's very exciting not only to go to school, but also go to work everyday!

[@melissam6037]

Also customer service experience is a valuable skill in engineering. As an engineer you often end up having to communicate with non-engineers like customers or internal business stakeholders. I did customer service in college, and those skills really helped me as a software dev. If o was hiring someone with that background I would consider it a plus honestly.

[@fornx8574]

Nick, if you read this, pursue the degree of your choice. Stay fully employed as well if you need it. Go to school part time and increase or decrease here and there as needed. I am 37 years old now and am currently in school for mechanical engineering (I was born in south asia and moved to the US). i have about 30 credits so I still have a long way to go. We will be about the same age when graduating. Similar to you, I was not interested in math when I was younger, in fact, in grade 4 my school tried to place me in special ed and they told me I have a learning disability in maths. Since the start of college, I have been working 2 jobs, at over 40 hours a week, live alone and I have a 3.7 GPA (on a 4.0 scale). I did not tell my college I have a disability so no special accommodations. I take the exams just like all the regular people. I work jobs like you too. One of my jobs is a call center, overnight shifts and the other job is very early in the morning working at a weight lifting gym. Just do the degree plan you want. I say that because I want you to be brave and you will still be around in your 40s, so why not make this small investment. School is only for a handful of years. It is a small amount of time compared to the rest of your life.. Remember that you have the ability to make an income without college so the absolute worst that can happen is that you will not get the job of your choice is the ideal time frame. The rest if pretty much an adventure, if you think about it.

[@Bcmdev]

No, it’s definitely not too late! Also, it warms my heart to see such support on here. How inspiring 😁 Go, Nick, go!

[@nikodimus86]

This was good advice. Don't give up. Find a way to get where you want to go, at least to get yourself closer to your goal.

[@1vootman]

I went to UC Berkeley to study math, but dropped due to my daughter being born, I had no support in raising her, so I went into construction and became a GC. I built a pretty successful company, making more money than most of my engineer buddies...but as I get older I'm getting the itch again, I love math. Life happens, but it only happens once...so do it!

[@tmendoza6]

I view math and physics as a mathematical function with an upper bound. Everyone I have met in math converges on that upper bound at different rates, but we all get there sooner or later, and our impact and contribution almost go to zero. So, if you love it, pursue it because you love it and expect nothing more from it than pure enjoyment. So it is never too late .

[@marytredinnick3366]

Discovered I love math. I'm 60.... for now it's for fun. But who knows? I love your videos. You inspire me and so many others. Thank you

[@raygood7986]

I love you for this video Fam ! This shit hit home for me ! Like this is actually me

[@TheHermitProcess]

At 28 years old, I realized that being a "software engineer" was not engineer enough for me. Dropped my job as a data engineer to study a taught coursework based Masters in Applied Mathematics. It's going to be tough to get a job, but I can't see any reality for me where I do not implement mathematics for a living. This life is about to get very difficult, hit me with everything you got, universe.

[@michatroschka]

never challenge the universe/god like that. just a little hint. it got more as you think to hit you with

[@TheHermitProcess]

@@michatroschka maketh sense. My apologies. I shall be more humble, as I have been humbled many many times.

[@jigsaw2253]

@@TheHermitProcessare you insulting software engineers ?

[@TheHermitProcess]

@@jigsaw2253 It’s not an insult, it’s how I feel after 5 years working as one. MOST software engineering jobs are boring and most software engineers don’t really know much , IE most CS graduates who end up writing stupid web apps and moving data from point A to point B. That is NOT challenging and mind numbingly boring. Careers in scientific programming are much harder in my opinion as that’s where the actual tough algorithms are being invented. You don’t need algorithms to solve common CRUD garbage.

[@poljakov13]

in my masters degree studies i had classmate , 72 years old guy.

[@iravinatha3]

This is really encoraging ❤

[@byronwilliams7977]

This was an excellent video. I'll be buying a course soon. I'm a huge proponent of mastery of your craft.

[@dollysinn]

35-40ish is a perfect age to switch careers.

[@masterblaster2626]

Part of the problem with finding an Engineering job in America, especially at an advanced age, is that we're being flooded with H-1B foreign nationals workers. I work for a major (200,000+ employees) company and the commercial division (not government) that I work for is roughly 30% foreign nationals. Sometimes it feels like I'm in Bombay! I've been an Engineer for over 30 years and it gets worse every year ... there's millions of foreigners waiting to get over here. And I don't want to work for the government to make bombs for America/Israel endless wars. So, I'd recommend to learn a trade and try to start your own company because Engineers are basically a commodity at this point.

[@torhec1804]

I agree 100%. Learning is a life long learning experience; therefore, it is never too late to be an engineer or something else. You are on the right track, Nick. And I wish you a successful career.

[@gurbeercheema3576]

This video came at a perfect time, i'm 20 and in a university major I don't enjoy. I kept thinking it's too late to change and that I should just commit to something I don't care about. I'm gonna try my hardest to change and keep in mind that it's never too late, thank you.

[@user-jd7zb7kk1b]

It’s true I am from Saudi Arabia and I know a two guy friends of my father they were working in government institution and they retired at 60. After that they got classy job in huge private company in here with high position nd lot of responsibilities. While they are many younger people such as me not getting even average job. So it does certainly depends on how qualified you are and what you can do for them.

[@Google_Bumiputra]

That's called cronyism and nepotism.

[@user-jd7zb7kk1b]

@@Google_Bumiputrahow did you decided that.

[@Abeer11]

هلا باهل السعودية 😄

[@user-jd7zb7kk1b]

@@Abeer11ياهلا ومرحبا من وين عبير😍

[@SpaceStickwithSpaceTick]

I feel like I am too young lol. I cant get a rental car but I have worked with 480 volt electrical systems.

[@stevefrandsen7897]

Best of the season to you! I've enjoyed your Math and more philosophical videos of late. It's never to learn something new. However, age related prejudicial barriers to entry are likely a reality. But you only need one chance right?

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

I'm 37, currently in the third year of a physics degree, next year I start my MSc. Finished top of the class in first and second year and currently on course to do the same this year. I'm due to graduate at 40. There are many internship/ work placement/ graduate programmes that are now open to me - or I could stay in academia and go get a PhD, then look for work in research roles. Had to save up for seven years working full time as a teacher to get the money I needed to pay for this degree. It has been one of the hardest things I have ever done, but it has been worth every penny. Let your passion guide you, not the social expectations you feel that you are obliged to follow. Your passion will push through the assignments, the barriers in the way of understanding - your passion will light up your mind - you will find a way when at first it appears there isn't one.

[@user-hn9qg5qm3o]

I personally think it’s never too late. There is no timeline that says you must have done x, y, and z by this age. Everyone blooms and blossoms in their time. What is actually worse of a feeling is buying into the belief that you are too old and then after 5-10 more years has passed you’ll look back and wonder “what if I would have just went for it?”

[@nicorobin7666]

I am also 36 years also, want to study machine learning and computational science. I used to be quick in math, but I feel afraid like I donot have capacity for it anymore, I am so afraid to chose thi path to study invest time afraid to not suceed or if i suceed I wont be hired.

[@glorymanheretosleep]

It is not necessarily about being 'too old'. It's that social security credits are needed and you never know what body you will be having at mid-40s.

[@MrKyltpzyxm]

I'm 38. No college. Two failed telecom careers behind me. Working as a janitor now. I keep wanting to do more with my life and feeling like I can't. Every message I get from other people says I should just go for it. I wish I could be an inspirational success story, but if that version of me exists, then it's still in the future. What I can tell you now, is that you're not alone. I keep finding support in comment sections of videos like this. I think we all have a chance to pursue the life we want to live. It's almost the start of a new year. Best not to forget that every morning is the start of a new day. The new beginning is when we decide to take the first step. I almost deleted this all without posting it. It feels like a bunch of empty, stock-standard motivational BS. I'm posting it because I don't want it to be empty. I want you and me and everyone else who wants more from themselves to see every possible encouragement. I'm not going to allow this to be empty. I know a random, mostly anonymous KZbin comment isn't much in the way of accountability, but it's more than nothing. Let's do this. I'm going to start today. I'm going to go into my bookmark folder of all the online educational resources I've been collecting over the years and actually put them to use. No more regrets about the past. Time to start putting together pieces of the future I've been afraid I could never achieve. Sorry that this wound up being more about me psyching myself up than encouraging you. Hopefully you're coming with me. I think I'm going to start with seeing how much calculus I can still remember. What's your first step going to be?

[@RSuarez66]

Excellent video. Más videos en español, por favor. Gracias!

[@georgejetson4378]

I just turned 64 and enrolled in EE as a freshman. Something I always wanted to do but was incarcerated for 22yrs. Hope to finish before I die.

[@pce4569]

finally the gainsorcerer

[@surrealistidealist]

As long as you have the time, energy and motivation to study, it's not too late. Just get as many books as you can to compensate for anything that can go wrong in your courses.

[@irdi3176]

Looking big 💪🔥

[@GzunigaR]

Never too old. I met a lady several years ago that for many years decided to be a stay home mom. After all her kids (i think 3) left for college, she decided it was time to pursue her intellectual passion: Chemical Engineering. She went to college, graduated with excellent grades and got a job at one of the major oil and gas operators doing process engineering. Inspiring!

[@kimwaldron2606]

Are we talking about reality here? I mean, I'm 70 and I wouldn't think it would be realistic to go back to graduate school. I already got accepted at one and took a couple of courses in math, and they were happy to take the money, but realistically, who is going to hire someone past 70 who has no experience in that area? We aren't talking about someone my age here, just younger people

[@elliottmoore5057]

Trump has 96 felonies, mostly fake and is still going for reelection. Need to be positive.

[@itzhexen0]

"Breath in the wildfire Don't forget to burn yourself It's so easy to force all your pain on someone else"

[@bariselem7097]

Great video

[@shiijei2638]

I like how you got all those math and academia books then that bodybuilding book thrown in lol.

[@sheenoreiki7843]

Just bear in mind most engineers work in 3 crews 2 shifts schedule, which means 12 hrs in a working day. Its a hardcore job especially when you're not in a 1st world country

[@douglasstrother6584]

First, explore the technical opportunities at your current employer and see if they offer a tuition reimbursement plan to help with the cost. Second, research companies in Greece/Europe that you find interesting. Leverage your prior work experience to get a new job at one of them, then pursue the degree.

[@truearmy1953]

This video motivated me too that I also am not late. Math sorcerer you are A great mentor and the best guide, you should always keep being better.

[@idontknow-ms8mc]

Love this. I wish I could go to school for engineering. But i am too afraid (&broke) to take the leap

[@theencryptedpartition4633]

Being an engineer is an identity, it's not a measurable progress you achieve, it is an identity. Being an engineer means you are able to build things using certain tools, regardless of whether it's Electrical, Software, Mechanical, it doesn't matter. It is still an identity that only you can give to yourself once you've mastered certain concepts for which you don't need any degree. It's something you have to accept for youself regardless of your age

[@mindurownbussines]

I really liked your point of view. I totally feel the same, never had a degree but can't get my hands of the keyboard coding and thinking about creating new stuff

[@CaptainHelisim]

Some fields are more difficult than others. I used to be an engineer and noticed that there were very few "old engineers" in the field. I used to wonder what happened to them, until I left the field myself. Engineering is an accelerating treadmill and old brains are simply not malleable enough to keep up with the constantly changing technology. Moreover what you said -- "if you're good at what you do" -- but that's a big part of it. HOW are you good at what you do if you're an engineer at 44 and literally have NO experience in the field? That's a pretty major risk to take for any employer -- employing this guy, setting them up, health benefits (to a person who will have more medical issues than a kid out of college) -- with no field experience? It's not impossible but it's going to be hard. I'm nearly 60 now and regret not becoming a helicopter pilot which I totally could have done. I'm told realistically it's essentially impossible to become a commercial helicopter pilot now at my age. NO ONE will risk a multi million dollar machine on an old guy with no experience. Hence, "Captain Hellisim". I fly the sim for my own entertainment.

[@user-pu7ul7fs7j]

Thanks a lot on another great inspiring video. Don't think you'll read this comment, but anyway want to ask about using leaterature on different languages, since english isn't my first language. If a learner want to study a subject in both languages: his first language and english, what kind of study technique you could recommend?

[@prschuster]

I got a biology degree in 1970, but couldn't find a job. Then I went to school for 4 more years for chiropractic, but had no money to start a practice. I finally went to trade school for HVAC and got work in that area in 2000. I got tired of that and went back to school to retake my biology courses. Finally, in 2008, when I was 60, I started working as a biology & anatomy tutor for nursing students, using my biology & chiropractic background. Never too late...

[@glorymanheretosleep]

The Math Sorcerer, you are the epitome of whether or not is it too late. You are not married. You can give time away to 'find' youself.

[@highviewbarbell]

Ok, so how to find a wife at 31 then if you haven't dated in 10 years?

[@glorymanheretosleep]

You can't. At that point in life, you need lot's of money or good looks. Other than that, you are screwed. Look at Math Sorcerer. He is a very good example of that having it all doesn't mean you get it all.@@highviewbarbell

[@glorymanheretosleep]

We know that he never wears a wedding ring. We know he dresses goofy to the point, where it is apparent he doesn't really take into consideration of what fashion sense he has. He is muscular due to all the free time he has, he has free time so he is muscular.

[@Jptoutant]

I'm glad this topic came up, as I am in this same situation.

[@jonathancaldwell517]

Like others, this is me too. I am partway through college, 45 with nearly 15 yrs of disability (illness). It's daunting feeling like I'm competing against younger/faster, but i do have advantages. I appreciate things more than many classmates, work smarter, and communicate better. I may not follow the beaten path but i know this will open doors (and close none)

[@TheTruth27536]

You can do it. The main thing is to pace yourself when learning the new material so that you retain it. Many people change fields at later ages, including myself.

[@ggcruise]

IT IS NEVER TOO LATE!! I am 59, retired from accounting and finance, and ... half way through a chemical engineering program taken one class at a time over the past 6 years. I take science and math classes for fun and mental challenge, not really to pursue an engineering degree per se. But when I complete the first two years, I will give serious consideration to taking the leap. I hope to have another 25-35 years left on this earth and I do not want to sit around doing basically nothing. At age 35? My goodness ... you are a baby!!! So much time to go try a new career! Several of them!

[@plaidchuck]

Great outlook!

[@rezamurshed]

I definitely agree. But I believe you also have to keep in mind the obstacles that are on the way and be persistent dedicated and fully committed. Your passion will always be tested. On the other hand i also believe you don't necessarily need to monetize what you love to do. You can do any job that more or less suits you and give all your free time to your passion. You can enjoy it without the money too. Sometimes that might be a more rewarding experience. But at the end of the day it's your life and your choice. I would suggest to reflect on it deeply before you take any major step. Best of luck! 😄

[@doomstarks182]

Thanks Scientist Thom Yorke. I am going back to school at 41 to finish my engineering degree and I want to do research on quantum computing. Failing out the first 3 times gave me some time to focus on what I want to do and have a passion in. I don’t even care about a career right now I just want to pursue my interest and whatever happens happens but I am going to develop the skills I need to accomplish my goals. The rest will fall in place

[@Gregwisconsin]

I’m in the “never too late/old” camp. My core believes that education for its own sake is the strength of nations and the individual. Thank you for your inspiring videos. Question: I took calculus-1 (5 hrs credit) in 1981 as a college junior and made a strong B. Now at 60+ y.o. What are your thoughts on someone who is currently a life scientist trying to retake algebra and then advanced maths through calculus-2 ? Is it like an older person learning a new language? Or am I thinking wrongly about older people learning (re-learning) maths?