Top 10 Mage Changes | Cataclysm Classic

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[@kungfujoe2136]

yes...FROST mage

[@joemcginnis1718]

Need advice should I play fire mage or hunter in cata I currently play a boomie druid but I have caster hierloom gear

[@donhaakon]

​@@joemcginnis1718fire mage is the most fun class to play

[@jens123able]

The production value of this video has really been taken to the next level, keep it up Scott

[@solidchaos01]

I came here to say that as well. Scotte, your videos production lately has been leveling up and you are killing it. Keep it up sir!

[@jonatkinson108]

For real

[@TheRealCeeJai]

YES! IT STARTS! ...and you beat WillE at starting these class-by-class guides for Cata, that's no mean feat!

[@CrixGuides]

I love WillE, but Scottes are amazing. He's also put hundreds of hours playing Cata

[@maxw565]

He put out cata content like 7months ago. Rogue cata guide m8 xD

[@Nick-zf4jx]

Been waiting since cata got announced for these typa videos

[@Dalex19]

Thanks for the video. Keep the Cata stuff coming. Feels the production value of this one is also higher than the others, which is quite cool, well done!

[@galeitiaa]

He is 100% maining a mage for cata, coincidence? 🤣

[@szabaripeti98]

I played mage in 3 p servers the last couple of years. All I can say is, it is amazing, one of the most fun classes for me bay far. The only downsides are: mana isssues in fire in low gear, early T11. Once you reach ~30-35% crit it’s gonna get better and in Firelands, after 375ish ilvl you won’t look at your mana bar anymore. Frost is sometimes useful on fights, we used frost on Shannox for example for kite-ing the small dogs, and on Magmaw hc to kite the worms. Maybe this is not the traditional tax but it was succesful. Arcane can be fun, sometimtes in 5-mans it is very fun. I’m looking forward to the min-maxing because there is huge potential. Spreading a well setup combustion and seeing the huge jump in the damage meter is the most amazing feeling I can imagine in wow. Hope to get the Lego this time❤️

[@andrecardoso6941]

Cata fire mage is so much fun. I am even leveling a mage to be ready for Cata.

[@sRxcss]

14:43 you can use a glyph in wotlk too. Great while leveling

[@scottwilliams2569]

The B-roll clips in this video are really well done! Those camera pans were really smooth and cinematic.

[@andreaskvaloy]

Cataclysm Mage will be absolutely amazing.

[@RagnarWarrock]

Loving the new graphics used, thanks for putting out this series

[@cyanophage4351]

This is great. Super looking forward to Cata. Can't decide what to play! Please do Shaman and Warlock next! 😁

[@dlpkn]

Thanks Scott, I won't have time to play this expansion so thanks for playing it for me.

[@joaquin2299]

Great Video! can't wait for healers guides.

[@dudecickle]

Back in the day I used Mage nuggets. You could set thresholds and they would light up green if above those thresholds so you knew when to bust.

[@dead_slide]

love it bruv keep em up never got to play cata back in the day so this is huge.

[@rfroode]

Loved the vid, helpful! I have been playing a frost mage and then Cata dumped us on our head .. at lvl 43 they took all AOE frost effects away until lvl 55 or 58 ,.. squishy before cata , but now truly at deaths door .. I almost went to fire but I’m stubborn and hanging in there but it’s pretty depressing

[@icerennodd7006]

Really high production value on this video.

[@sRxcss]

Time to download Combustion Helper, man I’m hyped

[@Thrall966]

Is that a thing ?

[@RichardPhillips1066]

​@@Thrall966yes

[@MyTino97]

Awesome editing !

[@AlexWaff]

I'm most excited to try out a worgen rogue in Cata, since I play druids, priests and such almost every time and wanted a change of pace. I'm also heavily considering instead doing a dwarf shaman or something as my first character specifically for the archaeology racial + alchemy farm, for the big money mount craft. Shaman seems good since it's new-ish, a bit versatile, and has a great instant mobility in Ghost Wolf, so digs can go fast.

[@temper1776]

It is the best fire mage in wow history.

[@emirturk7282]

Yes especially with legendary staff

[@CrixGuides]

CATA MF HYPEEEEE

[@CatalinFrentz]

Amazing video!! 👏

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

As someone who never played Classic back in the day and is only playing these Classic releases to experience what I miss I'm honestly suprised by how much Cataclysm adds stuff that I remember. I think its because when I was watching WoW videos as a kid it was during Cata and MoP era so this is more familiar to what I know WoW to be.

[@gandalfdengra5580]

Peak Fire in WoWs history, let's fucking goooo!

[@GreenThumbSyndrome]

my goblin mage back in the day was SO fun in pve and pvp. All mages rejoice. I'll be going a different path this time as I've done mage but it is in fact such a rewarding rotation/class in cata.

[@miseto5211]

Is it that much better than undead eating corpses yo restore health+mana?

[@jungwestfale98]

I feel bad for all the haters that will not experience the joy of cata class design. Especially healing was so fun!

[@Zutang777]

lol ok. it’s not really that different then Dragonflight.

[@kyoden1928]

@@Zutang777 cool comparison it clearly shows u havent played cata ever

[@dank42069]

Yeah I feel like wotlk gameplay was better remembered than it was in wotlk classic and the inverse will be true with cata (cata gameplay will be remembered worse than it will be experienced in cata classic). Also TBC feels like a successor to vanilla and wotlk (especially ulduar onward) feels like a much more significant change to the game than TBC, and cata is less of a change than TBC -> wotlk.

[@N_Tys]

great vid mate. I noticed you made some changes with your in-game recording? looks so good! keep it up!

[@Ryan-ol3hr]

Thank you for covering cata, a big part of the community will end up regretting their apprehension towards this xpac once the retail crowd gets hooked.

[@paulkrenn6524]

If we get Cata any later than may 30th ill loose my mind

[@pererikahlman7339]

Late june

[@tristanbrown9865]

Love the videos!!!😊

[@sad209yt]

It was great getting an early preview of the video on the Kick stream. Keep the content coming. Love it. Shout out for the edits. :)

[@NickBenish8]

yes! more cata content!

[@Boneheaded0]

Mage is going to be my alliance alt can’t wait

[@zeakonz70]

Beautiful made =)

[@thomasScott-w8t]

What adon are you using when your hot steak procs you get the lights on each side of your toon

[@cameronmanesh979]

I'm going to try fire in Cata, did SP originally. Can you link your Fire UI and addons you use? I've been having trouble finding combustion helper.

[@HFOR02]

Thanks for the guide my only problem is very fire centred which I know fire had the most changes from wotlk to cata. the important one I want to know do we need teleport stones and portal stones or is that a mop change

[@ahetzel9054]

Not gona play mage but ill consume any cata videos 🤣

[@thomasperez9485]

I can’t find the combustion helper add on? Was it a weak aura or add on off curse?

[@sinklar7946]

Hey Scott, do you know if Blizz has confirmed if we're getting the Gnomergan and Echo Isles rebellions as part of the prepatch?

[@Blubking1]

Not confirmed no

[@Neylax2832]

I wasn't excited for warrior. Until now.. Okay. Elemental + Fury it will be 🤷‍♂️ Great video, thanks a lot !

[@paullowe8437]

Fire mages in icc with these huge packs are going to be fucking silly

[@nimblelafitte1923]

love your work scotty

[@zionsphinxx]

whats the recommended WA to let you know when to cast Combustion?

[@FreshDropOne]

Ty for cata content

[@TheRedRedKroovy]

As much talk there is of Fire Mage amongst the community, I really hope people aren't going to be put down by the idea of playing Arcane Mage. I raided in the competitive progression scene back in Cataclysm, and Arcane was a monster. This is exacerbated massively by the trinket called "Shard of Woe" which drops off of Sinestra in Heroic Bastion of Twilight. This trinket reduces the base cost of your abilities by 205, and it should be apparent why this is absurd for Arcane Mages. Their burn phase can be sustained for a significantly longer period of time before running out of mana with this trinket, and because of this it became a NECESSITY to bring Arcane Mages for any fight that had a tight DPS check window. There was even an absurd amount of drama surrounding Heroic Spine of Deathwing progression, as top guilds were poaching Arcane Mages in order to beat the DPS check required to beat the encounter.

[@shivita-]

what mage spec would u recommend me to go while leveling 80 to 85? i was thinking about frost but i dont really know

[@illiberalautist2222]

Combustion in cata/mop is the most fun ability to press of all time in wow and it's not close.

[@csquared4538]

Sounds a bit frustrating to me. I'll definitely try it out, but I don't like the idea of needing to align that many RnG effects for it to work best.

[@tj8606]

Combustion spreads in rbgs w/ dotcleave teams, ahh the memories!

[@illiberalautist2222]

@@csquared4538 it's insanely rewarding to press it and in cata where you can spread it uncapped on aoe you literally can do like 10x the damage of any other class on big pulls. It's super fun. If you really want to parse it could be annoying tho due to RNG but honestly who cares about that.

[@illiberalautist2222]

@@tj8606 yeah cata was the beginning of non frost specs being viable in pvp. Fire mage is SO FUN in arena and bg.

[@dcsnunes]

Link to the wa that tracks your fire damage on target pls?

[@Oxydrene]

Will we be able to race change to gob in pre patch ?

[@Sabbatdude]

Sick looking Vid. CATA HYPE ! Love all the tooltip highlights as well. Great Job !

[@Glaciuxx]

I’m torn between elemental shaman and mages caster wise and between dk and warrior melee wise 😢 decisions decisions any recommendations ?

[@probioticx2201]

Cant wait.

[@Mrdnz-ll1uh]

Always been a Main mage always will be a Main mage. In fact cata was the first time I leveled a character from 0 to Max it was a goblin fire mage. Fuck.. These were the good days

[@Omglolwut]

Cata Fire mage PvP is by far the most fun I ever had in WoW

[@josephteller9715]

Sigh, fire being the big dominating Pve spec and frost the big PvP spec and Arcane reduced to a Utility spec (and in all cases being forced to choose one of these rather than being able to build hybrids like the classic trees) are among many of the things I hated about Cat. I mained Arcane in Cat and getting into groups, even Guild Groups, for Dungeons and raids was brutal as they all considered Arcane an inferior spec.

[@hvdiv17]

Na ill be giving mages unleashed elements elemental blast to the dome on my enhancement shaman. this is that expansion🤣

[@darylsdog9521]

That’s MoP 😊

[@jeannetitor]

yo these are way better than willies

[@koreanzombie6697]

hell yeah

[@batliff]

Great vid man but where are the rest of the class's?

[@Scottejaye]

In the playlist with this one mate

[@YoungFree213]

to be honest, i perfer the look come Combustion Helper over WeakAura. It just looks better and just seems better

[@stormskye3578]

I played Mage and rogue in cata and will be again

[@boudhriwaala9484]

I was think news changes about mages but still the same as old cataclysm before 13 years. I was looking for some new changes about mages .. Sadly. Just i hope we dont have the same problem wth ignite machine i hope soo

[@adamg59]

cata is S tier if you look at these class changes. So much better than tbc or wotlk or sod

[@Thor_Q]

M.A.G.E 🔥🔮❄️ GANG! 🧙‍♂️

[@ikewhite6832]

You had to be absolutely cumming at the idea of making this video, scotte 😂

[@Scottejaye]

hahaha you know it

[@conorf8091]

🤨

[@JBelmont7]

Yikes

[@squidsgames1270]

@@Scottejayewhat’s gonna be ur main in cata

[@andreasnohr11]

Ele shaman next? 🙌🏻😁

[@natev580]

Yep, you should play a mage, but it has literally NOTHING to do with the changes to the class. It has everything to do with encounter mechanics that you can just cheese as a mage while still doing DPS.

[@adamnay7730]

IDK, combustion update is what really lets you do the cheese:)

[@NICO-mr4ll]

CATA SPELLS LOOK SO FUCKING COOL

[@GabLeGamer]

Well... our 30 man roster now has 12 mages.... Thanks.

[@Tat2xnova]

Combustion gives 50% fire crit damage in wotlk so it wasn't as bad as he makes it out to be. And that's always how max ranked Hot streak worked.... 100% chance to proc. Just plain wrong information. The only change was adding pyroblast to the hotstreak proc as it isnt included in hot streak even if it crits in wotlk.

[@Zeth408]

love it

[@KS-je6hg]

Fire mage is OP bois🎉🎉🎉

[@pawballer1964]

Mage is probably a top class on cata, but gameplay it's basically same as 80

[@simmot5213]

ele sham next!!

[@xilongcao8854]

when warlock changes?

[@namenoname3284]

Its tank and/or rogues+hunters being bad, not people not being able to manage their aggro

[@csquared4538]

Shadow priest!

[@bikespj22]

I used a weak aura to track combustion in original cata and mage wasn't even my main. You guys were just bad back then 😂

[@Scottejaye]

im still bad now but yea i was probably worse if thats possible

[@thicks3351]

"ME-LEE" ITS MELEE "MEL LAY"

[@Igotgame911]

You could have just stopped at combustion and made the video 5 seconds long. Appreciate the content tough lol.

[@koreanzombie6697]

If you think the other abilities/talents are not impactful/interesting, you are just objectively wrong.

[@Igotgame911]

@@koreanzombie6697 I am well aware of the impact other abilities/talents are. I am playing on the fact that this version of combustion is the most insane version we have ever gotten and the only time people could play it. Retail combustion is really fun but nothing compared to cata.

[@wowaddict617]

I can hear about mage forever

[@Muffnman007]

if i remember correctly although hunter pets do get lust it was only 20% and not 30%

[@LiveGoesOn11]

Ah-billa-eehh

[@probioticx2201]

👍

[@jaelorin]

Abili-ee

[@juiicer]

comment.

[@henrybustos6974]

Too bad you made this video before doing Uld 10 in pre patch. CumBusted all over Vezex 😂😂😂

[@rashash9954]

To answer the thumbnail, NO! xD The argument is, the hype around Wrath was crazy and we all wanted to play it because of nostalgia and because the combat is just better than what we've had before, BUT wrath died super quick after Ulduar and only small niche communities kept playing and speedrunners. Cata isn't hyped at all and only a handful of streamers are playing it, and since this game is heavily influenced by streamers I'm 100% confident that Cata will die even quicker than Wrath classic. TLDR : No Hype : Less Players Wow Token : Less Players GDKP : Less Players Cataclysm will be a niche game with a handful of speedrunners and Archeology enjoyers but definitely not a successful MMO like Vanilla or SoD maybe even TBC. I'm confident that Blizzard is doing it just because it doesn't make sense to skip Cataclysm straight to MoP because MoP is much more loved by people than Cataclysm

[@Blubking1]

Is their any proof at all about this claim?? ONE? Or is just an old grumpy man dooming?

[@kyoden1928]

Wrath died cuz the expansion itself is bad, P1 is absolutely Trash and theres no world content to do so its basically a very tedious and annoying 70 to 80 leveling just to afk in dalaran until raids are off cd, Cata wont die in P1 but will prolly die in P2 if they release Firelands quick then i'll say game will die mid Firelands

[@duramajin3118]

Lol cata 😂😂😂😂

[@hickspaced2963]

The real question is ”should You play cata?”

[@rct6518]

I liked Cata dungeon/raiding back in the day besides the Dungeon nerfs & Dragonsoul raid let down. I am very concerned about it this time. I have a feeling it will be treated as the unwanted stepson and 99% of Blizzard's time/effort will go towards SoM & Retail. Lets be real: the future Classic+ and Retail are the big $$$ makers for them going forward. The way they handled the ICC ending left a sour taste in my mouth. The pacing was way off for Ulduar and ICC. They simply take too long (they drag it out/forget about it). The GDKP meta and reliance on addons is also a big turn off for me now. It grew, and grew, and grew. Here we are. My ICC progression guild spent more time getting Weak Auras explained and to work in weeks 1-2 than the actual fight mechanics. That was cringe. I might just have to retire my totems & shadow spells for this one and call it complete. Goodluck to you who play the Cataclysm!

[@Blubking1]

Thank you

[@BRADLIKESPVP]

The most surprising thing about cata is that there are actually people interested in playing it

[@kyoden1928]

i mean classic proved that Woltk sucks so maybe ppl will be testing if Cata actually sucked?

[@kevinschm9798]

Cataclysm classic? 🤣

[@NICO-mr4ll]

HATE NEW WOW MODELS

[@barbos1507]

Are you for real going to play cataclysm classic, people? Why tho?

[@Blubking1]

Its fun

[@joaquin2299]

best expansion to play healer

[@adamg59]

Its perfect balance between classic and retail, amazing raids And dungeons, amazing and fun classes and much much more, you shoud give it try! And yea dragonsoul raid is garbage I agree