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[@Scottejaye]

Just want to point out you have enraged regeneration in WOTLK already, I was actually scratching my head at the end of recording this video wondering why i ended up with 11 instead of 10 and its because enraged regen wasn't meant to be there lol! Also just wanted to add i think when i said the word "consume" when talking about lambs to the slaughter its worth noting it stays up for 15 seconds, as in once its stacked up the only way it drops off is if you don't refresh it, the point was more around you wouldn't hold certain abilities until you've got a 3 stack, you will just do your rotation as normal. The Catacylsm Rested XP Guide is here now! You can preorder here - www.restedxp.com/cataclysm/ref/scottejaye/ OR for Season of Discovery and Classic Era (Hardcore) www.restedxp.com/ref/scottejaye/

[@sukubos1737]

I am sorry to say that you are still kinda clueless :) Which is understandable since I don't believe you main warrior. Cata removed stance dancing by removing the requirement for spells to be cast in specific stance. Like Spell Reflection. That was the most significant mechanical change there ever was. Not only by streamlining and simplifying the gameplay but also improving rage management. You got Shattering throw. Gag order. All the engineering gadgets. Changes to GCD enabled you to pop all your trinkets, cooldowns, skills together for massive AOE damage. And on top of that, you did not even bother mentioning second wind which made you a god tier PvP class. Cata was by far the best, most enjoyable and fun warrior iteration ever made.

[@user-wf3zh9lw3x]

You don’t stance dance in Cata? And gag order and shattering throw are both in wrath. I’m a little confused

[@guccix1411]

⁠@@sukubos1737 actually there are still abilities that require you to be in a specific stance to use, so I’m afraid you are a little clueless as well. 😅

[@Juggs_WoW]

@@sukubos1737 You do still stance dance in cata

[@denbittre]

​@@Juggs_WoW not if you are a casual like this dude 😅

[@mr.nobody5279]

Give your editor a raise, super high quality video work.

[@Walkingc0rpse]

This whole video looks like a cinematic. This is amazing looking!

[@Walkingc0rpse]

I hope we get all the class videos like this! Priest next? 🙏

[@Scottejaye]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/roCxqKOwhM-tac0&ab_channel=Scottejaye Priest is on this playlist mate but not edited to the standard of this and mage video and on the basis it takes my EPIC editor 2 weeks ish to produce 1 of these classes, there wont be time to get the previous ones redone now before launch >.

[@espionn]

2 weeks is craaazy

[@Walkingc0rpse]

@@Scottejaye oh damn, I may have missed it then! I’ll go back and check it out! Thanks so much!

[@austinha11]

You're using "amazing" wrong

[@Billysppizza]

One third of the way through this video and I must say this is such pleasant footage and edits to look at. Great job!

[@onisekai547]

The level of editing and transition is INSANE :D A absolute pleasure to watch the video, tyvm for the hard work :)

[@user-wf3zh9lw3x]

Thanks a ton bud!!! Loved the video and appreciate you showing warriors some love. Can’t wait to go arms because it looks like a blast.

[@c1assic2310]

Scott this editing looks amazing!!! Absolute cinematic stuff! Well done!!

[@radiationwow]

Really nice editing! I see you've improved a lot

[@adamg59]

Amazing edit , amazing video thanks

[@Grizzlysnaps]

editing is amazing, this format is freakin sick

[@itshalen982]

Great vid - I would like to point out that I believe (based on what ive seen on the beta) the talent Lambs to the Slaughter doesn't get consumed when you use any of the abilities in the tooltip and its just 3 stacks you can easily maintain over the duration of the fights Cheers

[@Florintibi24]

Very good video like always. Keep up the good work Scotte....💪💪

[@TheRealCeeJai]

POV: THIS IS THE ONE YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR

[@adamg59]

This one and warlock one 😅

[@Ryan-ol3hr]

Love the production mate!

[@simoncodrington]

Great video mate, liking this format, best one I've seen in ages. You making all the classes in this style?

[@Snow-ep6jy]

I love the editing :O

[@Mortal209]

That cheeky "That's what she said" being inserted was fucking brilliant. Can't wait for Cata. I never played in Cata back in the day, I was a broke high school grad in WotLK and had no way of playing WoW again. Can't wait to try it out!

[@Scottejaye]

I cant help myself, i'll never grow up :D

[@Shagrath06]

Great editing on this one!

[@Vaddle_]

the editor did such a great job with this the videos are looking so good lately

[@raighohu6276]

Now i´m hyped to play some warrior. Great video tho

[@OrionStarzz]

Cheers for the video, will be levelling my warrior first to 85 so this is informative :D

[@haytham7035]

I def. wont play Cataclysm, but good Lord: I followed you through the whole footage, since it's edited so well! Incredible quality mate! How is it even possible to have a movable camera catching up to different perspectives? Or was it the flying Eye of Kilrog? Nevertheless: Great work! Keep it up!! =)

[@PerGamingGames]

This editing is insane

[@marcuscalundan3842]

@Scottejaye do you think that because of how overpowered arms and mages will be that there will be an overflow of those specs, making it hard to get into raids?

[@SoulHero777]

Awesome video as always! Please warlock next 🙏

[@TheGodfather7650]

Hey Scott. Are we forced now to switch to arms starting from the prepatch that comes in 3 days because as i see arms will be superior.

[@Hipp1062]

Anyone know if heroic leap works in a macro with @target, so it can be used like a charge?

[@gotown1590]

So your base health as in your HP un-buffed right? Like base health with all gear/gems/enchants right? Referring to vengeance.

[@robertseptim3579]

My ally going warrior and my horde going dk, I am so hyped! Especially with transmog coming too!

[@kdp6275]

Best wow youtuber for me! Keep it up! Do druid next btw🤪

[@Scottejaye]

Appreciate it mate, thanks for the support

[@jaredcrow3710]

😊😊😊 ive been waiting for these top 10s to start again .im going dk main hint hint lol

[@SuperSjaak11]

Is this different from when cata originally released, or just the normal changes for the release?

[@NivGSL]

I'd like to note that while I love playing warrior, protection warrior is just not very strong in Cataclysm. They simply do not have the same amount of utility and cooldowns as other classes and much of what they do have only works on physical direct attacks (mastery, shield block etc). Compare this to a Blood DKs mastery or just the sheer amount of cooldowns in comparisons, you will see a HUGE gap between warrior opposed to DK and paladin. Which is really sad.

[@FernandoBaruja]

With mele boss warrior prot is a beast

[@NivGSL]

@@FernandoBaruja Not anymore than a paladin is and the paladin has more CDs. And if you want to talk physical damage mitigation, a DK is miles ahead of warrior.

[@FernandoBaruja]

@@NivGSL With top gear prot is better, have extra block rating, and reflect damage, with interven -20% damage reduction, armor reduction, an decent kit, againts melee boss prot is the peak.

[@Direksone]

Does Maul for Bear work similarly as the HS change?

[@ayzinfamous934]

Very good video. Having fun to look at. What about paladin? Gonna do a video for paladins too?

[@Scottejaye]

already done mate its in the play list, only classes not done at this moment in time is warlock and shaman

[@mantequilla6680]

Is shield block still going to be down most of the time? Because that’s the main thing holding prot warriors back in Wrath

[@argenis9518]

You forgot to mention that every enrage-related skills are empowered by fury mastery: Enraged regen, Death wish, Raging blow, they all increase their damage and healing with the mastery as I remember

[@mattyice5696]

Yes, yes, and yes!

[@exekutorarcardos]

Arms Warrior really deserves this. After being literally Non-existent in Wrath.

[@bradvanbakel5781]

i believed everything he said until he said amazingly strong in pvp. now i dont know if i can trust him

[@acidbunny4352]

would enraged regenration healing be increased by the 6% or the 20% from field dressing?

[@Scottejaye]

it goes up to 36% total from the extra 20% self healing so its 20% of 30% which is where the extra 6% comes from

[@Shinhwa0127]

can you bring 3 warrior and line up their CS?

[@NickPlays95]

Really want to see a Druid video! It’s my only class not 80 and I want to level it in the cata world from 1-85!

[@Scottejaye]

It's in the playlist mate, its not as edited as this and the mage video but all the classes i've got through so far are here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/roCxqKOwhM-tac0&ab_channel=Scottejaye

[@NickPlays95]

Thanks bro! Love your content!

[@VivianR92]

Nice video ! Warriors already have Enraged Regeneration in WOTLK tho, right ?

[@Scottejaye]

oh yea lol i wondered why i ended up with 11 instead of 10! i'll put that in the pin comment, my bad!

[@VivianR92]

@@Scottejaye Lmao I tought I was crazy, no worries tho the video is still 10/10 !

[@Scottejaye]

Cheers mate, appreciate it

[@brandonmccloskey9803]

Think they going to do fresh server for Cata Classic? Just checked my WOTLK toons I haven't played since Uld and I have like 5k gold... Old guildmate says he is at a couple hundred thousand gold and he is considered a broke boy. If not hypothetically what would be the best way to purchase gold without getting banned? Asking for a friend =P

[@vxnhy2038]

Came to comment on how good the video looks but damn everyone already on it xD clean and smart geeza, nice one!

[@Scottejaye]

Cheers mate

[@Killerwins88]

Time to pump!!

[@Reaper-ri6lm]

Have they confirmed we are getting the AP version of vengeance?

[@paullowe8437]

Good think about colossus smash ! is it just keeps getting better! peak MOP colossus smash pop cooldowns adn you storm bolt into it!! going to be bout as satisfying as it can be1

[@MrViktors]

Looking for info about Cata,there will be fresh servers ?

[@solenya4983]

No

[@painondayz]

Wotlk was a fury warriors wet dream. Cata will bring a new feel to warrior. Im looking forward to the class change.

[@RubeusLoL]

@Scottejaye lamb to the slaughter is just a stacking buff, it is not consumed by abilities. In some fights warriors will lose the stacks because of mechanics, for example atramedes flying phase and they will need to restack the buff on the next ground phase. It's also a weak spot for pvp since enemy arena teams can force a warrior to lose the stacks by kiting o ccing him. It's easier to keep the stacks in 3s or rated bgs, much harder in 2s.

[@borislavrumenov2085]

Sadly PvP is barely talked about and I keep seeing so many videos saying "ARMS WARRIOR WILL BE INSANE IN CATA CLASSIC" yes but that's explicitly for PvE. Totally mid for PvP

[@greyraingames]

I’m glad you mentioned blood and thunder for fury. True it’s useless on a boss fight but it’s great while gearing up doing heroics. You have to stance dance for it, but it’s really not a big deal and it’s a huge dps increase in dungeons.

[@jamesofallthings3684]

They'll definitely nerf it into the ground if warrior is ever good again on a live server.

[@Turkos245]

I think battle trance kind of got renamed in future updates, or it was odd with sudden death. I know fury got a clearcast raging blow

[@Patrick-ho8cr]

Hopefully heroic leap will not be as buggy as it was when it was introduced. Couldnt jump up a slope that was more than 2 yards taller than ur current position. The jump at 3:05 was NOT possible at launch.

[@Nestjcr]

what are you warr'ing abut?

[@roansythen]

Warriors have Enraged Regeneration already in WotLK. Aside from that, great video!

[@Scottejaye]

aye i put that in the pinned comment straight after uploading :P

[@roansythen]

@@Scottejaye I play a warrior, I don't know how to read.

[@braindamage7128]

Wait can I not use shield slam as fury now? Im fury but in pvp I use my shield a lot

[@darylsdog9521]

Prot only now

[@whodiedlee]

can we use the rested XP now in the beta?

[@Scottejaye]

Its still invite only on the beta i believe mate

[@whodiedlee]

@@Scottejaye lame that sucks

[@00wkee]

Is fury gonna be decent in cata classic?

[@kenny-wt2mt]

if you do 10 dps as arms, you would do 7 dps as fury

[@Weeboslav]

One thing you forgot about Heroic Strike and Cleave is that they are not on a global cooldown,meaning that you can use them in conjunction with your other abilities. For example,you can cast Slam and follow it instantly with Heroic Strike for extra damage. Also there's a glyph of Colossus Smash that causes Colossus Smash to apply Sunder Armor stack to target

[@danielmoore9670]

@scottejaye can you do a prot warrior vid

[@Scottejaye]

I’m going to do my absolute best to get as many individual spec videos done as possible before launch along with professions and other smaller vids, I’m just running out of time lol. Blizzard dropping a release date that was far sooner than I expected threw me off big time. I’ll make sure prot is high on the list though!

[@danielmoore9670]

@@Scottejaye thanks man, love you videos. Im pumped to tank im cata

[@vandji8792]

Zug zug, cata hype

[@joshua_lee732]

Cata prot warrior is best prot warrior

[@jacobk4n3]

Alright dude, fine - I’ll main warrior this time

[@andreasnohr11]

Shaman next? :D

[@thomaswilliams1533]

Arms is so fun in cata

[@Ves189]

Not sure if it's a bug but on beta the Lambs to the Slaughter buff doesnt get consumed by using an ability.

[@Scottejaye]

It should just stack a buff called "Slaughter" , its not consumed but can fall off after like 15 seconds i think it is

[@darylsdog9521]

It doesn’t get consumed you wanna keep it up at all times

[@TheOlddr]

Will they getting back warrior's Throwdown? Its insanely fkin op in pvp I remember.

[@borislavrumenov2085]

Arms was mediocre in Cata PvP. Decent in 2v2/3v3 and maybe ok in BGs as long as you had a pocket healer. outshined by many others

[@theangipardeller8764]

pls do DK next

[@SuperTrippy]

About time

[@Scottejaye]

miss you mate

[@leemo4454]

Get your ass back here

[@lichking9069]

HEEERRROOIIICC LEEAAAAAPP 😮‍💨

[@zeakonz70]

With all respect, some more short info on why fury is barely mentioned would be nice. The warrior mains out there should know for sure that fury is pretty crap throughout cata.

[@martinmaciejewski2411]

they kinda fucked my hype for cata showing they gonna rush it that fast

[@NICO-mr4ll]

THEY BECAME THE SHADOWMOURNE ITSELF

[@StonedMonkeyProductions]

Fury for life and no matter where it lands its what I main lol

[@Draakooooo11]

In cataclysm fury is not viable brother..,😢 tuff expansion for the gentleman that love fury spec

[@kreaturekie6753]

The Warrior is not a class It's just knowing how to fight amazing how many other classes know how to fight and can do it better Is Warrior is the journeyman other classes moved on from the basics

[@temper1776]

Finally arms warrior has high skill cap in pve.

[@voo7210]

Lmao, tbc arms warrior is way harder to execute perfectly

[@temper1776]

@@voo7210 you dont know cata arms then.

[@Magetastic69]

​@temper1776 no, YOU don't 😂 this is comical saying Cata war is harder than tbc war

[@temper1776]

@@Magetastic69 Ideal rotation in cata is much more harder than you think. Show me your logs first.

[@travisreynolds1329]

@@temper1776 I'm assuming they're attributing the TBC difficulty to timing your slam so it goes off of swing timer and clipping it roughly .2 or so seconds before the swing, as not to reset the timer. It was a good bit to time, I'm personally just happy that Arms is top dog in PvE, fury is fun but arms has always been my favorite.

[@Herbit00]

Imagine paying for a leveling guide. Blows my mind

[@Scottejaye]

I pay for anything that makes my life easier

[@ignatiusgod5935]

Why go to a restaurant when you can cook at home for cheaper? Depending on the restaurant, you could have a more pleasurable experience. Same goes for levelling, some people just cant stand it and i know the guide helped me mindlessly push through on multiple characters

[@elefantpappan]

ARMS

[@6stringbravo616]

SHAMAN:D

[@alec7869]

We already have enraged Regen

[@Scottejaye]

aye i put that in the pinned comment immediately after posting

[@brimstonevalar6053]

Blizz needs to buff prot warriors since they are the weakest tank in Cata

[@lasertorsk9161]

prot warr is kinda dogs otherwise good video

[@natekoerner4222]

Zug zug season 9. Zug season 10. Oh no casters have haste season 11. Have fun for the first 3 months, keep your LSD or hunter alt ready for the last.

[@majortomsdmf1]

So broken its B tier for arena. But its still alot of fun

[@Scottejaye]

B for broken, makes perfect sense to me

[@majortomsdmf1]

@Scottejaye I played it to glad in 3s. Better play WLS or Ret/War/Sham. Definitely not broken but I wouldn't discourage playing it. It's still a fun class.

[@voo7210]

​@@majortomsdmf1it's 2024 brother, 2010 meta means nothing

[@majortomsdmf1]

@@voo7210 could you explain why?

[@mrbig7493]

Actually warrior is not good for the first 2 seasons in 3's They pick up way late but it'll be too late

[@Davidhenry1210]

Comp is a big factor but skill trumps all

[@jozomrkva7757]

after 8 years of cataclysm experience on free server and playing all classess. warrior was the worst of them all until last phase. weak tank, below average dps until 4.3 and super weak on PVP

[@NightfireHC]

SOD killed and cremated warrior. FROM THE ASHES WE RISE, CATACLYSM WE WILL BE AVENGED

[@caretheis6779]

Yeah with how bad they did us i ended up quitting at phase 2. Wish i wouldve rolled pally lmao.

[@titisinistru]

What are you guys on about? Have you checked logs now in phase3, fury goes brrrrr

[@antoniojuniornegao2566]

Wtf is this edit mate! Someone cooked here

[@mikep8321]

Can you please @Scottejaye not be lazy and place chapters on you videos. You are maybe the only one out there that doesnt do it. And yes your videos are long so we DO need it......

[@Mirage0153]

It's definitely deliberate in order for people to spend time watching it rather than skipping through it

[@mikep8321]

@@Mirage0153 Well wish him luck then cause I unsubscribed long time ago. Too long for nothing to be honest and 0 humour.

[@fuzzelump3]

Thatswhatshesaid 😂😂😂

[@user-yt7uq9wb5n]

The remove of armor P for warriors and the introduction of that ability is actually a nerf. You no longer have constant pressure. RNG was the worst thing that has happened to warriors. With Colossus smash on CD, you feel like a rogue using his filler abilities.

[@Denrosanabben]

Dont worry, In late game with enough mastery it will be up almost permanently anyway

[@Lando_Solo]

Also remind yourself armor pen is removed for all classes. Giving colossus smash even more value.

[@seanmurphy7953]

Warriors don't have consistent pressure? Heeeh?

[@kauepsapsa]

yes and no , you should check how the warrior talents are working in cata , it feels way better with the talents talking with each other

[@Magetastic69]

Warrior in pvp is much worse than wotlk. Youd rather rogue hunter dk feral in pvp b4 a warrior. Mortal strike nerf doesnt help.

[@ysmr1843]

Is warr bad in pvp ?? Im leveling one atm ):

[@Magetastic69]

@ysmr1843 it's B tier for sure. The 1st season is their best. I'm 2860cr on wotlk right now just to weight my opinion. From memory + pserver ladder it seems rogue hunter feral & dk are the most popular melee followed by war ret enhance. No class is BAD like unviable, but warrior's reign at the top like wotlk is over. Colossal smash is cool, 100% arp for 6s, problem is you could do that damage the entire fight during wotlk lol. So it's like getting 6 seconds of wotlk dmg. Mortal strike goes from 50% to 25% healing reduction as well. So less oppressive dmg + less pressure from MS along with many classes getting more defensives + heals makes you less impactful compared to wotlk. Throw down is a cool ability, gives you a stun, but dmg wise you just aren't your wotlk version. Surprisingly slam comes back into use again.

[@solenya4983]

@@Magetastic69 you weren't getting slaughter in wrath though. Don't think you appreciate how much dmg increases our talents give to make up for no static arp.

[@borislavrumenov2085]

Very unfortunate, but yes it was bound to happen with how strong arms was in wotlk pvp, a nerf in cataclysm was pretty much inevitable. Sad but they're still somewhat fun to play. Not as fun as rogue, mage or feral druid for pvp tho =) even hunters are more fun lol.

[@duramajin3118]

lol cata

[@johndoe-qo8cy]

Feral better. :)

[@byCk1]

Cickbait gg! 30% HP reg is OP.... we have it already

[@massuhb3958]

Man, I wish content creators would stop the whole " X IS BROKEN" videos. Click views that lead everyone and their dog to play X class and do X profession, absolutely ruining the average player's experience. This entire culture has ruined the piss out of classic. Game becomes a job when thousands of players watch videos like this.

[@twattythirky]

Any chance we've a shammy vid like this coming? Ele/resto Ftw.