Cataclysm Classic - How In Demand Will Your Class Be?

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With Cata Classic expected to launch early summer, I wanted to make a start on the class related content.
Today we are doing an overview of how in demand each class and spec should be.
Of course things are subject to change, and we won't know for sure what will be best until the game has launched - either way treat this an some early impressions of what to expect and let me know what experience you have from Cata in the comments!
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[@WillEmmo]

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[@Hourani95]

it should be free.

[@interprosDaz]

​@@Hourani95 You can argue that it should be free, but you can also argue that hard work should be paid off. Just because you feel like something should be free, it doesn't mean that it should be.

[@jamesb7924]

@@Hourani95It is free if you know where to look!

[@Bartooc]

@@interprosDaz Well based on WoW's TOS paid addon are not allowed...

[@interprosDaz]

@@Bartooc Extremly odd that RestedXP has been available for years then. Still doesnt change the fact.

[@ianrastoski3346]

Hyperlink to the class you want 1:53 priest 4:14 warlock 6:11 vending machine 8:24 druid 12:02 rogue 13:43 shaman 15:58 hunter 17:26 paladin 19:28 dk 21:32 warrior

[@phantom0456]

Vending Machine! 😂

[@diode_wow]

Lost my shit at vending machine

[@astralfields]

As a mage... rude! But true.

[@alihorda]

First I thought vending machine refers to paladin 😂, given that they were useless buffing machines in classic, but this is cata

[@phantom0456]

@@astralfields why they gotta be so RUDE?! Don’t they know you’re human too… uh, maybe your toon isn’t, nevermind 😂

[@gabecrossgrove3336]

Thanks for all the pre-Cata content!!

[@Dualities]

thx? its literlly bigegst bussines in the world

[@andreisv]

TBC best and way too short

[@naejimba]

Keep in mind; most players will likely end up doing 10s instead of 25s, due to them sharing the same lockout and dropping the same gear. In 10 main raids, you only get ONE battle rez per fight. The biggest things you want to have covered are lust (shaman or mage) and something with a battle rez (druid, DK, or Warlock). As for the 3% damage buff, Ret is the best to fill that... your Mages will want to go fire by at least the 2nd tier, and BM Hunters don't deal nearly as much damage as SV. Ret also comes with a TON of advantages, from auras and buffs to insanely powerful CDs such Hand of Sacrifice and Lay on Hands. These CDs can and will save you from wipes, and with only a single b rez in 10s it becomes even more valuable to do so. They do fantastic damage from start to finish and cover so many buffs they are hard to pass up. SV Hunter is also another must pick IMO, simply because they can cover almost any buff your raid is missing via their pet choice. They have an interesting toolkit that makes them ideal to handle any odd jobs that a fight might present, and their excellent damage is now even LESS impacted by movement. This is a really good xpac for Hunters with nice quality of life changes and being incredible in both PvE and PvP. Ele is another spec that is hard to pass up simply with how much they bring to the table. They cover lust, the 5% crit buff, the 5% spell haste (only covered by three specs), 10% spell power buff (Demo is the ONLY other spec to provide this), and the armor buff that is only provided by the shaman totem and Devo Aura... meaning your pallies can use their other auras (and most other specs that can cover resistances have to give something else up to do so, even if it is only a glyph slot). On top of all of that, they become an actual damage dealer and have great AoE damage to boot. They are easy to play and fun. These are the big three that makes covering the buffs you need a breeze in a 10 man comp. ...and each one of them slaps.

[@Blubking1]

Fire is being played from the start with 4.3 balance

[@cukman1643]

@@Blubking1I thought the reason fire wouldn't be played was from lack of gear not balancing am I mistaken?

[@Blubking1]

@@cukman1643 Baseline of fire is insanely strong with 4.3 patch (they buffed some fire spells up to 100%). While low gear feels bad (due to low crit), it will still do decent damage and beat Arcane pretty much always. Its a weird situation that only happened because they buffed fire that much.

[@Snowsitoox]

@@Blubking1 In cata, most of the raids had some sort of ADDS in adition of the bosses, which made Fire mages EXTREMELY strong due to combustion sharing. Sometimes the raid could even ignore a mechanic because of that cooldown, so yeah, fire mages were the go to spec in every raid tier

[@Blubking1]

@@Snowsitoox i agree

[@quinn562]

Gave your channel a break for a few months but it was good to be back to give the cata stuff a peek - my serious playing days ended with the end of wrath back in the day so I'm cautiously optimistic about this (pally main as well this time around so it's gonna be a new world with holy power), great coverage as usual!

[@Azqalihm]

Cata's difficulty and RBGs killed so many guilds. I loved it. I even farmed the stupid mounts in tol barad. The only lastingly bad idea in cata was lfr right at the end. It was a cool expansion and I actually have more max level fond memories than from wotlk or tbc. It was the start of the decline only from a trendsetting viewpoint with modernisation.

[@Azayzel93HD]

LFR released with or close to when Dragon Soul released. I'm with you friend, I loved the dungeons and raids of cata.

[@PollyCot]

Game became a spammy mess and a joke in wotlk lil bro, not cata.

[@Azqalihm]

@PollyCot you sucking at rotations doesn't make the game bad, classic Andy.

[@cukman1643]

"Spammy mess" bro prefers "frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt" instead of an actually good challenging fun and rewarding rotation. Why are you even here if you have zero interest in Cata or even Wotlk no one one wants you here, scram skedaddle.

[@aic20]

i hope the dont do lfr this time around

[@Kahuno-WoW]

I played healing druid at the time and was the one of my guild designated to get Tarecgosa legendary staff, it was awesome 😊 Firelands was a good raid!

[@STANKORachev]

Druid is the only class I've seen solo heal 10 man raids in cata

[@Schon1Kevin]

shadow priest is actually exceptionally good in several single target fights aswell. especially those that give haste and/or crit buffs like alysrazor or majodormus in firelands additonally to the multi target fights. especially the off heal with its cooldown is incredible valueable.

[@xxFairestxx]

Shadow orbs are CANCER

[@Mortensj1]

what do you mean? Buggy? @@xxFairestxx

[@QPoily]

@@xxFairestxx Are they really? From what I've heard they're pretty much a mechanic you don't pay attention to whatsoever. Use MB off CD regardless of orb count and by the time your MB will have come off CD, you'll likely have at least 1 orb anyways to proc your passive. The only time when they became a notable mechanic is with the t13 set bonus.

[@bikespj22]

​@@QPoily they didnt become cancer until I think wod. This first iteration wasn't really that bad.

[@amcstoic]

@@bikespj22 orbs were awesome in cata, one of the best iterations of sp

[@nickbernard8302]

Thanks for lettin us know

[@Schon1Kevin]

the thing with feral and why paragon stacked them was actually a bug where all ferals where able to stack up their dots for each other. thats why the dot damage was so incredible high.

[@Excentrix54]

Typical exploiting EU

[@herrmannnachnahme9456]

As always in WoW: exploit early, and exploit often.

[@Schon1Kevin]

@@herrmannnachnahme9456 well, even tho im usually not a fan of that term but in this case id really call it "cleaver use of game mechanics". if youd have to do very specific things like with most exploits i wouldnt use that term but all you had to do was to bring more ferals. nothing more. its not like you had to do some shady workaround or something. i mean yes, usually you wont bring more than one feral in most groups but if youre vuilding your group youre free to invite whatever classes and specs youd like. its not more of an exploit than stacking warriors in classic or mages or unholy dks in wotlk.

[@goodgreenbeats]

@@Excentrix54 Typical coping NA even though you have 5x playerbase than EU

[@ribthiefz8283]

@@goodgreenbeats Nah we have more players than NA on classic

[@joncoish]

Can't wait for Cata really. I still haven't decided what I want to play though, considering a bunch of classes.

[@carlosthemandalor3650]

J always wanted a feral druid soo wml my guy

[@toraso842]

Bruh u been considering bunch of classes since wow classic launch 😭 if u haven’t had all classes by now than u won’t

[@cukman1643]

@@toraso842 What bro? What does this mean what does this have to do with which class he will decide to main in cataclysm.

[@Draakooooo11]

Can you recomend me a class , i always mained Warriors want to change to ranged DPS...im between ele cham,boomkin or mage/lock​@@cukman1643

[@kyosgg]

me too :) i go with dwarf Hpala for sure !

[@christmasham4312]

I remember disc was awesome and a must for a few bosses

[@nickbullard8134]

So excited for cata honestly!

[@gabrielsilvas2567]

Great video! Love the content. I just want to put this out there. While there is a meta to the game and some classes do bring more to the table than other. What WoW needs the most is people willing to lean the mechanics and be able to be an effective raid lead, and organizer. Everything else falls apart without the one or more people putting these groups together.

[@williamdann1642]

One thing to mention about demo lock is that, yeah it can do top DPS but from experience on Apollo wow cataclysm private server, it's typically considered one of the most difficult specs to play and min max rotation wise. You have to do alot of pet management and you have alot of CD's to pop at the right time and your meta is not on a fixed CD and will naturally not align with your demonsoul or trinket CDs after the first cast, making it pretty tricky. It also requires a pre-pull mastery item set u use to pop meta and swap back to normal gear just before the pull.

[@Mortensj1]

this is exactly what I experience, and have the feeling of playing demo lock. You do so much, but don't get top 1-3 dps out of it every time. I'm strongly considering playing shadowpriest instead

[@Mortensj1]

you have so many keybindings that I'm about to puke. but wild instance farming dps

[@Schon1Kevin]

prot pallys will definately be highly looked after due to the utility and the raidwide mitigation. also a pro tip for all the blood dks in cata: keep your hands onto your sindragosa trinket. paired with the res trinket from tol barad you can cheese baloroc in firelands and tank him solo which is only possible for blood dks and only with those 2 trinkets.

[@ahetzel9054]

You won't need those trinkets but yea he will always be solo tanked by DKs due to vamp blood and AMS.. many fights will be solo tanked by DKs. Tbh most raid comps will have a blood DK main tank and feral OT so I don't think prot pallys will be highly sought after. I just spent a year on a cata private server, warrior and pally tanks were greatly overlooked and I even saw them kicked or relegated to dps in favor of a BDK. It was a private server tho, blizzard making tweaks could change everything.

[@afscrew123]

Definitely dont need sindragosa trinket for anything.

[@borisxbg]

@@ahetzel9054 Definitely the OT will be prot pala, since they scale better later in the expansion than the DKs, which are a must for Main tank anway. You can totally OT with bear in 25 man raids, just not in 10 man comps.

[@sp00k14]

@@borisxbg you take feral OT because they can swap to catform and perform decent dps when they're not having to tank

[@premix3663]

For boomy, its actually much more fun where you want to plan out Eclipses, certain fights you will want to sit in Solar Eclipse and spam Sunfire on adds/dotting fights

[@TheBugB]

Thanks Wille

[@midsummerKNlGHT]

My pre-cataclysm checklist (these items will no longer be attainable): 1 - Darton's Rod of Transformation (Alliance only toy) 2 - Light of Elune (Alliance only good luck charm) 3 - Linken's Boomerang (trinket that surprisingly never got nerfed for targets over lvl 60) 4 - ZG mounts 5 - Dungeon set 1 & 2 (for transmog fashion) 6 - Skull of impending doom (gimmick offhand that lets you sprint) 7 - Nifty Stopwatch (sprint trinket but has long cooldown)

[@Thrall966]

what about black proto drake?

[@Tuskor130]

I'm very excited for all the changes for Cata. It seems like, how you said, with Cata being less solved, we're going to likely see more exciting pop-offs. Who knows, maybe someone will finally discover that the Rockbiter Weapon change allows Shaman Tank to be a real thing. We saw a few discoveries during Wrath of all things, so maybe we'll see something new and exciting in Cata.

[@DanielDailey639]

TL;DR you want a resto druid, resto druid and holy pally are flavor of the month in cata. Mained a holy priest in cata, regen was really bad compared to the other healers I played. Chakra strips you of versatility and you make the other healers OOM more because you can barely help on the tank without OOMing. You still have a niche - prayer on spread out ranged - but arguably resto druids do it better and their lifebloom on the tank is much more help than you can provide. Holy might be a mess but Disc is still very solid, being the only disc priest in a 25 is an absolute treat to play.

[@TheKobasen]

Combustion in Cata is the hardest hitting ability in the expansion if you can timing it properly. Especially if combined with impact talent.

[@naejimba]

It also allowed for the most insane AoE that rivals any other spec in any other xpac... it feels sooooo good when you get a juicy one and your screen fills up with numbers.

[@TheKobasen]

@@naejimba too bad it got nerfed in the next expansion... 😞

[@k.wrummel1644]

Thanks a lot for this very good guide.

[@bryanheilman4376]

Cata Hype! I'll play about all the classes, want to make so many Goblins! Can't wait!

[@toomuchtimeonourhands2891]

I was annoyed they made goblin horde. I thought they should have been neutral, but able to rep the factions how they wanted. Rep stormwind, lose undercity. Friend the orcs, lose the dwarfs. Something like that

[@AZWings]

Really excellent overview. Thanks WillE. I really hate the holy power mechanic. HPal has been my main all along and now I'll have to think about switching, just like I did in the original run.

[@DrPluton]

I’m planning to level my shaman up for Cata Classic. I really liked elemental and restoration that expansion.

[@afscrew123]

Rshaman is pretty weak but really fun tbh, elemental is goated in 10mans

[@Christian-jq1xk]

May you can link the raid comp Tool with cata raidbuffs which you show in the movie? Thanks!

[@SenipLuff]

What's the raid comp site you use?

[@markbostock9554]

Love your videos but if you could section them on the timeline like other channels so i can skip to the couple classes i play that would be awesome. Regardless keep up the good vids, big fan. You and scottyj are my goto for wow classic

[@celestiangrimjawz3902]

I asked the people at Blizzard to do classic cata because i never played it back in the day. And i wanted to play it like it was back then. Im glad theyre doing it just for me 😊

[@Kallipolis7]

Cata was absolutely amazing. I’m so upset they ruined survival hunter in retail. Try it out. It is insanely fun in cata. I’m going 100% hunter in cata.

[@astralfields]

It won't be _entirely_ like it was back then because we're going to be playing with the final patch state of the game again, rather than experiencing the changes throughout the expansion. Fury warriors for example were a lot better for most of the expansion than they are in 4.3.4 so most likely they will be massively underrepresented. Fire mage was also quite a bit worse so arcane saw a lot more play, but fire got buffed so now they have much better baseline damage while still scaling extremely well so they'll be played even in the first raid tier (especially with reforging now allowing you to stack crit/mastery while getting as close as possible your haste breakpoints). All that being said, maybe Blizzard will do some minor adjustments to bring the low performers up a bit... one can hope. But it will be an incredibly fun expansion regardless. (Then again, I play fire mage so I'll certainly be eating good lol)

[@badass6300]

Cataclysm is a better WotLK in every possible way, except it has 1 fewer raid tiers and no proper equivalent of 10 Man Normal Raid difficulty from WotLK(LFR is NOT it). Everything else is better. Class design in Cata was peak until SL/DF, dungeon and raid mechanics and overall quality went up a lot, PVP was also peak until SL/DF, leveling 1-60 and 80-85 are much better, itemization and item progression peaked in Cata until DF, the tabard reputations were polished and rewards were well done too, the badges were polished by turning them into justice/valor. And you have a dungeon tier for every raid tier in Cata, I think only Legion had that as well.

[@Dualities]

nice bot promotional account u got there

[@Eren-ws9yw]

they really did a fan service here , I cant wait too play it

[@Ry_315]

I recall balance Druids being very strong every tier of Cata when raiding during live content. The eclipse mechanic, mushroom placement and multi dotting give the class a very high skill cap. Don’t sleep on the boomchickens.

[@rjjrob30]

@6:30 "will you stop" in the corner made me giggle.

[@nikoladimitrov4057]

Hey WillE, what is the tool that you used during the video for the class buffs/debuffs? I'm planning to play Cata with my friends and I wanna set up a good raid comp. Thank you!

[@Pennianna]

It's called wowraidcomp

[@Monsteroflopogis]

just a quick note that I'm surprised wasn't mentioned, fire mage has god tier burst aoe dmg. When you pop a phatt combustion you can spread it to other targets with your fire blast proc. There are a few fights that make your dps sky rocket higher than Mike Tyson on a handful of shruuumz. not always the easiest to time, but it's one of those little things.

[@BuzzzdLightyear]

Im looking forward to Cata, though I will say Im a little worried for it's longevity given how quickly Wrath died once the raids had been out for a few weeks.

[@Quadromil4]

Cataclysm content requires fewer players and is also more interesting than wotlk.

[@naejimba]

On the plus side, the PvP was fantastic and it is the most alt friendly expansion the game has ever had. The raid fights are more difficult, and getting heroic kills will likely take longer. My biggest concern is people not willing to give it a chance... before Classic was announced I had gone back through and played every version of the game from Vanilla to MoP; after removing my rose colored glasses I'm surprised how well it holds up. The flaws it has are few but quite noticeable. The middle tier was great but much shorter (really could have used the water raid counterpart), and the final tier was a bit of a letdown and had no world content. The heroic dungeons at launch were the best batch we've ever had, but then we were funneled into two troll dungeons and three dungeons for the final patch. In general, everything is frontloaded and there is LESS content to do as the expansion goes on. They really should look at keeping the previous two raid and dungeon tiers viable as the expansion goes on. If they wanted to go the extra mile it could be made into an amazing expansion if they added another raid in the second tier, redid the final tier, and added world content akin to the timeless isle with 4.3. It was SOOOOO close.

[@parkerfrode5101]

That’s how ever version of wow is outside retail. Until a variation of mythic + is put in then raid logging will continue due to the lack of competitive pve content outside raiding on a week lockout.

[@Daltonv94]

What website was that you used to make a raid comp that shows all the buffs/debuffs?

[@Alexekaj]

Blizzard just needs to re release WoW on a 6 year cycle Vanilla-TBC-WotLK with 2 years per expansion and they will never go out of business

[@kevinneparidze3973]

Actually very interesting idea

[@EnProto]

​@@kevinneparidze3973 Warmane Pserv is doing it

[@MatterhornValais]

I used to laugh at this kind of suggestion, but I’d be up for it lol. We need the classic player-base all unified on a singular classic version of the game, instead of splitting people between classic, classic era and SoD.

[@raulmcgangbang6890]

Wrath and tbc deserve a permanent server.

[@MichaelD-fn5lv]

I've never liked TLP servers until I played SoM. The relatively small knit community & handful of top guilds kept the trolling down and the community honest because your character's reputation within the community was actually significant to the point that if you were a shitty person to others you basically got marooned- which is preferable to no-name faces in the crowd that could fuck your group or raid & disappear without consequences. That being said, I love the idea of servers with dedicated timelines with options to circumvent the grinding aspect of leveling via XP buffs or quest level scaling with your actual level.

[@prep3544]

I'm not sure if I'll play it to the extent I did with wrath but ill defo give it a go, at least get to max level and try a couple raids. Think I'm gonna go with demo lock because I've heard some good things about it in Cata

[@Morgmar]

Please start the series about classes🎉

[@Rack_Lee]

Whats the raid conb calculator you are using ?

[@Sam-rd8mh]

Would love to know this as well

[@Pennianna]

It's called wowraidcomp apparently

[@ShaddyzZz]

Guess ill try survival in cata. Thx for the video!

[@Willbotx]

Arcane mage in cata was my favorite with the slow arcane blast got later in the tree.

[@DenneeZy1337]

Would you link me the page for the Raid Comps Catalysm? Can't find it.

[@Brian-lc1zt]

I recently played on a Cata private server and was surprised at how much fun I had. The gameplay was so fun and dynamic for every class. Give it a try if you’re on the fence. Also feel free to ask questions on which class to roll.

[@kyosgg]

cant wait for Cata !

[@alexlamb7904]

What is that buff spreadsheet you’re using?

[@slywolf33]

I never play cata i am looking forward to it as i want to play wow after seeing boss guides for cata boss and got to play in mist I do want to play balance druid and maybe shadow priest

[@H-D-D]

Omg.. i remember gurthalak 2h sword from dragon soul on my arms warrior in pvp... getting kited, but then i spawn up to 3 on a player and they just absolutely EAT them by themselves and me just loving it! Cant wait for that. Way more fun than lego daggers to me

[@123Suffering456]

19:53 doesn't look like UH DK boosts shadow priest's disease damage any longer in cata. The tooltip says 'increases damage taken from YOUR diseases by 30%". I assume that's deliberate wording. And as a shadow main I'd be glad about it too if we're not dependent on having an UH DK in the raid anymore.

[@jetski3384]

I’m definitely going to give this expansion a shot. Retail isn’t fun anymore and SoD seems to be full of bots and is boring to me.

[@Quadromil4]

💯👍💪👏

[@jarlfisk]

And you dont think cata will be s bot feast , just like classic,tbc and wotlk was/is 😂😂 after 2 month only raid loggers and bots will be online.

[@MoonTurky]

​@@jarlfisk*Wow is a game that will never die, and it will be succesfull till the day the world ends* ~ Some neckbeard

[@Almenbrah]

Where did you find the Wow Raid Comp Cataclysm tool?

[@bjorik]

What is the tool shown around the 1:20 mark that lets you plan raid comps?

[@ericw9499]

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[@Manakuski]

Oh the times. I remember having bis gear on my warrior and getting #1 parse on deathwing. Those were the times.

[@Slashresto]

I can with a 100% guarantee sayt that Holy will outheal Disc on EVERY figh that doesnt have a dmg amplification (Halfus wyrmbreaker for example). Disc will only be used for PI + Barrier on fights like Chimearon, Halfus, Nefarian , Ragnaros etc You coud obv run Holy + Disc on on some fights but Holy Priest on medium high dmg fights with lots of predictable sustained dmg periods like Magmaw, Omnotron, Spine of Deathwing, Madness of Deathwing, Ultraxion , Al'akir, Maloriak. For classic depending on how they tune raids and the lenght of average fights, on shorter fights u prob wont use a priest at all or just 1 disc and a few paladins. Paladins is by far the best healers on fights where they can chain their OP CDs back to back, HolyP or Rdruid on sustained fighs (Divine Hymn usage will decide Hpriests OPness as its the most broken healing CD there is for raw troughput)

[@ruiferreira4946]

Hi WillE, i'm new at WoW, i started playing late Wotlk because of the influence of my grandson. I'm 64y old and my sight it's not what it used to be and i liked the UI you show at the minute 20:39. Can i ask you how did you got it or where can i find it. The display is very good and i think it should work for me. I got addicted on thhe game i and i like to keep up with the other players. Thank you for your attention and understanding.

[@denome3725]

I do not know why so many peoples hate on Cataclysm because there are a lot of fun classes/specs to try out while there is also so much stuff to do especially PvE wise so i do not know about others but i will definitely have a blast playing this version of the game. The fact that we will have the beta/gamme catch up mechanic for 5mans will also make it so much more fun for alts.

[@anonymousfx5254]

1.Pala(heal, tank) 2.Resto shamy 3. Blood DK as a tank 4. Spriest(shadow spd aura+ as a role of battery for mana regen)

[@borisxbg]

resto shamy can go in 25 man, but in 10 man it's defo Disco Priest + Hpala main healers.

[@Magdelia]

im so excited to play holy pally radiance is so damn good

[@Excentrix54]

You're getting the nerfed version, rip

[@Magdelia]

true but its still good@@Excentrix54

[@Azayzel93HD]

surv def the go to for hunters but i remember MM being pretty good once you got your haste and load up on the crit.

[@alancoee789]

Holy paladins mastery in cata applies a shield for 10%(maybe 15, don't remember the exact base number) of amount healed, or am i missing something ?

[@Thibrahimovic]

To be honnest I really enjoy SOD for the moment and I didn't thought of playing cata because I never did this expension. But after seeing that video maybe I'll think about it and make a warrior with a cool 2x2H because me too I love to play seeing my badass armor and weapons when I beat the shit out of my ennemies ! Can I start level a character on any wrath server to prepare for cata ? Ty for the video Rascar

[@Thibrahimovic]

And, isn't it too late to start from the scratch ?..

[@vespyyr1866]

Yes, you can start to level a character on any wrath server to prepare for cata, and no, it is not too late to start from scratch.

[@lurreburre9167]

@@Thibrahimovic cata prepatch aint even out yet. that will prob be best time to level since they will probably make leveling faster than it currently is in wotlk + alot of other ppl will start level when it drops

[@moneymanzell7606]

can you share the link of the raid comp website you used?

[@thizlam4810]

Gonna play Prot/Ret pally because that’s what I played when Cata first came out

[@TheMustardisbad]

I mained a frost mage for pvp in cata and I remember going Frostbolt, Deep freeze, ice lance, ice lance, ice lance. Dead. It was so op

[@dennispyxen7873]

I relember sittning in there for hours day after day, eventuellt flooding the AH with epics and prices dropped by a shit ton, but boy did I make ALOT of gold in firelands, and i will again in Cata classic, hands down the best farm early on solo 👌🏻

[@beefnerd473]

I don’t think cata was bad but it does mark the beginning of the end of my enjoyment for the game I actually loved cata at the time but nowadays I think I’ll stick to my vanilla flavor. I’ll come see the sights and ding 85 for sure tho

[@matthieucoulter2750]

Where can I find the raid comp builder you used?

[@willbeer1076]

Google WoW Raid Comp, 3rd one down for me.

[@matthieucoulter2750]

thanks man. I googled that and I couldn't find it. Any chance you could add the link? I've found them for other versions of the game, just not Cata specifically@@willbeer1076

[@jakehansen7010]

3rd one down for me was the Wowhead Wrath comp tool. You can change it to Cata on top, but it isn't working for me, certainly not what he was showing in the video. @@willbeer1076 I'm also curious what he was showing....

[@Srdjan21924]

I remember playing arenas back in 2012 on my fully geared warrior just for an arcane mage with legendary staff to pop all cooldowns and crit me 50k three times in like 1 second without me even dismounting and dying on the spot lol, arcane mages are gonna be OP

[@rendymonyab]

I did love playing sub rogue in the early raids before I quit the game. Too bad I never had the chance to get legendary daggers

[@hamsterman1995]

This will actually bring me back to the game.

[@Fr3thc]

At the end of the day, play what YOU enjoy playing. King honor frens❤

[@maxpowers5055]

Warrior, mage, paladin, warlock. Can't wait for Cataclysm!!!

[@Neylax2832]

You missed a lot on elemental aka Machinegun lightning bolt. In cata the mastery gave us the procc from spells. Creating 7 lightning bolts out of 2-3 feels amazing.

[@BluuSkyz]

Will they drop a big XP buff soon to prepare? or will it stay at 50%?

[@wadebelknap7758]

Speaking of Blood DK being able to take care of themselves, my favorite part of it was using lichborne back then so that I could heal myself with death coil. Can't tell you how many times that saved me. lol.

[@ahetzel9054]

I'm definitely maining BDK. Damage is just as good as other DPS classes and you're a better tank than anyone else 😂 I'm fkn excited!

[@wadebelknap7758]

@@ahetzel9054I've been waiting for the blood shield. During Wrath all I heard was, you're an off-tank deal with it. Then I'd take over when the main tank died. haha. Cata is when the DK really takes off.

[@fieswow]

I remember that rogue was awsome

[@ahetzel9054]

Rogue will always be awesome 😂 But yea it will definitely be a lot of fun. Leveling as combat and having a constant cleave feels absolutely amazing. I'm definitely gonna have a rogue alt.

[@fieswow]

@@ahetzel9054Sounds nice.. i remember the big crits with the Epic Dagger Quest Chain from Deadwing^^

[@Quadromil4]

More classes will be in demand than now. It will become much more interesting to play.

[@cyanophage4351]

Ebon Plaguebringer is not the only way to get the magic damage debuff across lots of mobs. Affliction warlocks have AOE Curse of Elements

[@parkerfrode5101]

But you don’t bring a aff lock. So yea it is. Your locks will be demo or won’t be in the raid. And at that demo is one of if not the hardest side to play well in cata so it will be reserved for solid players.

[@bremmsparkfist5298]

@@parkerfrode5101 lmfao, most guilds aren't sweaty min/maxers who make roster decisions like that. In 25m you can bring one of everything if you want and still be successful. Besides, you bring the player, not the class, and the DPS difference between classes isn't wild like you guys make it out to be. There will be aff locks that out-dps demo locks, I can assure you, and raids will be full of aff locks coming from wrath, and it'll be just fine.

[@QPoily]

Boomkins do too with their mushrooms, btw. Does require the boomy to consistently place and detonate them, but afaik it's their best form of AoE damage anyways.

[@strada624]

Never forget the time Riggnaros chewed out a Disc priest for using Atonement heals

[@slob1105]

Lived my time in cata back in the day, maybe ill come back but giving wow a miss lately, its dry, its old. However one thing i did like on launch, 4 piece t10 shadow priest haste stacked and destroying everything insanely fast, i started hours after my whole guild and still beat them to 85

[@lukasbrauneruv]

i would argue that Warlock is top wotlk dps so far i saw Fire Mages be the kings especialy if you stack em. I could see warlock in top dps as long as the fight takes longer than 2mins and have enough mobs to dot but not for single target.

[@Dwesk]

I loved playing Enhancement Shaman from naxx to rs, but by ICC the massive DPS fall off due to mediocre scaling, as well as being less relevant than Elemental Shamans truly made me reconsider what I want for Cataclysm. I'll probably still do the first tier as Shaman but I already have plans to go for Fire Mage and some sort of Hunter lmao. Those seem to be always busted and stackable as hell.

[@altibzz]

enh will be better in cata than it is in icc, and ele is also really strong.

[@afscrew123]

Enhance does good damage but i would never take one for 10man. 25mans its whatever.

[@Dwesk]

@@afscrew123 yeah I can def see putting one token enhance in 25m will continue being a thing (at the moment guild has two people including me in most ICC runs with healhance spec just for sindragosa and valithria) but yeah sucks not being a stackable spec that also gets worse loot prio for obvious reasons.

[@daethmer7834]

I quess it's a good time to start playing wrath now?

[@archvaldor]

I'm hoping we get naked shockadins twinking in low-level pvp. Getting one-shotted from 40 yds away was such fun. Especially when I was doing it.

[@Mrdnz-ll1uh]

What twinking bracket will be alive you reckon?

[@afscrew123]

​@@Mrdnz-ll1uhon cata private servers lvling was viable through BGs. Not sure how xp rates will look on classic.

[@rottingcorpse6565]

Thanks for helping me decide which class I'm going to level to 85 and then never login to Cata Classic again with!

[@peexee752]

What is this raid comp website?

[@ahetzel9054]

One thing to mention about priest is with how expensive your power word shield is, you won't be putting it on everyone constantly. Especially at the beginning of cata. It's going to cost almost 10% of your mana...

[@afscrew123]

You only use the shield to proc rapture to get the mana back, its too expensive to use otherwise. Mana management is a huge deal for healers. Especially in t11

[@brandonl7759]

Arms warriors with Gurthalak in 4.3 just owned the game. PvE, PvP, doesnt matter, you're gonna slap and are gonna tank anything coming your way

[@JonathanLundkvist]

Every classic I have rolled a new character. This will not be any different.

[@thewinner4me816]

Burn out got me hard in ICC but im tempted to come back for cata, maybe as fury warrior or demo lock. Not sure if ill have time to raid while im raiding in ff14 tho, we'll have to see

[@Mrdnz-ll1uh]

Didnt watch te Video? Furry is shittuh

[@naejimba]

I'll be honest with you.. Fury is in a REALLY bad state this xpac. We will be playing on the final patch, which means they will be garbage until the final tier and even then Arms will do more. The good news is, Arms is amazing and really fun to play. If there was a single spec they should make changes to, it should be Fury.

[@thewinner4me816]

​@@naejimbayeah ive heard about how fury is during cata, both back in the day and beliefs for this time around. A bit unfortunate to know, especially since looking through the talent tree makes it look like it'll be current fury but with some more procs and such. Oh well though, I'm sure arms will be fun, and warlock will be strong if I decide to play that like I'm tempted to. Held strong to warrior through classic to now but it is what it is.

[@astralfields]

​@@thewinner4me816Fury in Cata is sadly not much fun to play because you're often rage starved. Meanwhile Arms feels like it has infinite rage and you need to constantly hit a ton of heroic strike/cleave to keep it down (stance dancing means you're effectively capped at 75 rage so you have to spend early and only pool a little bit for Colossus Smash windows). If you like WotLK fury for its high APM playstyle, you'll probably be quite happy with Cata Arms, it's super fun to play and will 100% be my first priority alt.

[@ahetzel9054]

I would definitely give cata a go but I'd recommend arms as it will be much stronger than fury and one of the strongest class specs. I think you'll have a lot of fun as warrior.

[@deenman23]

im curious how holy radiance will be handled,until dragon soul it was a cd not a spamable aoe,depending how they do this holy pally will feel very different than originaly

[@afscrew123]

Like dragonsoul ofc, we are playing on the latest patch. Its spammable does very little healing and destroys ur mana. You have to rely on holy power management and light of dawn to help you there

[@bozman247]

I’ll play it as a means to get to MoP

[@clementbringuier7452]

Can't wait for Cata

[@preslim84]

shadow isnt just a 1 off at least for 25mans... they are like top 3 dps depending on the fight. Up there with rogues

[@davidlindsey5363]

Glad to hear Blood DK is super good!

[@bamboebahr2470]

I wish this didn't compete with season of discovery. I want to play both but I simply don't have the time ^^;

[@Yusuf-yh1jn]

They dont compete with each other?

[@bamboebahr2470]

@Yusuf-yh1jn SoD is a timed thing, meaning you have to put the time in now or miss out. Cata releasing in the middle of p3 makes it compete for your limited time if you want to raid in cata as well. Would've been better if it released after the final phase of SoD but that would make the last phase of wotlk classic drag on way too long, boring those players to death...

[@henrybustos6974]

Cata hype!

[@jackshiraq575]

Oh the amount of players I have griefed with that leap of faith ability as priest

[@laurent8429]

Where can i find WoW Raid Comp ? Google don't help me :(

[@Muridin360]

The best thing about cata was tanks with vengeance. Pair a rogue and a blooddk in 2s and it's ezpz all day