Top 10 Mistakes in "21" The Movie

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@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 6 жыл бұрын
Is card counting legal? Here are the facts - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHTac2WAf9ekf5Y
@TWD98
@TWD98 16 жыл бұрын
despite all the flaws, it was still a great movie
@crunchy911
@crunchy911 3 жыл бұрын
Well hello troy from 12 years ago.
@msj8601
@msj8601 3 жыл бұрын
mkw came out the same week, this video published thats how fckn old this comment is and I see it now o;
@ryanmcclure8040
@ryanmcclure8040 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the profile picture and I was like “no way”
@Yodiak
@Yodiak 2 жыл бұрын
can't believe I found you on a blackjack video
@kunaphela4018
@kunaphela4018 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yodiak same xd
@sparklingcider44
@sparklingcider44 15 жыл бұрын
i love how they remembered so many things about the movie but then couldnt remember the main character's name
@axelcoscollola5786
@axelcoscollola5786 2 жыл бұрын
quick question. idk if u will read this but i just wanted to ask if the last 12 years have changed a lot from ur opinion. i mean it’s kinda cool seeing such old comments, because usually the person changes a lot during such a large period of time. so yeah, if you don’t mind, i’d like to hear if the last 12 years have gone like super fast or not. i really don’t know what i want to ask, i’m just generally curious
@CajunGreenMan
@CajunGreenMan Жыл бұрын
Video production has come a LONG way for you guys. Keep up the great work!!
@RealRorschach100
@RealRorschach100 Ай бұрын
this was filmed like 15 years ago man.
@missingno-xk7kp
@missingno-xk7kp 5 жыл бұрын
Cole Williams mentions "...The true count is 7..."
@brandondaniels9471
@brandondaniels9471 3 жыл бұрын
*_*gulp*_* 😟
@TristanBottorff
@TristanBottorff 2 жыл бұрын
Why does this look like it was filmed in the 70s
@monkman21
@monkman21 4 ай бұрын
Cause at the time they were actively counting so I think they did that on purpose
@fckhype
@fckhype 12 жыл бұрын
These guys were in a Christian card counting team based out in Seattle. I've watched their documentary & been inspired since, much respect to you guys!
@RealRorschach100
@RealRorschach100 Ай бұрын
what is it called ?
@cosmosdelight2700
@cosmosdelight2700 Ай бұрын
@@RealRorschach100Holy Rollers
@CleaveBritneyAlone
@CleaveBritneyAlone 12 жыл бұрын
MIT team had strict rules to never ever tip dealers.
@kevinmoore.7426
@kevinmoore.7426 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin would ask the female to pull his finger. Occasionally
@christophergargaro959
@christophergargaro959 7 жыл бұрын
Honorable mentions should be... - Ben had just joined the team and passed the "test" at the Asian underground casino yet on his first night was selected to be a BP. Most all team play has people start as spotters because BP is much more difficult. - The call ins were over exaggerated and ridiculous. Folding your arms behind your back dramatically is a huge giveaway. Real teams use common mannerisms that anyone would do. Real MIT team folded arms in front of them which doesn't give off attention. - Even before calling the police after you get punched by a casino staff member, if they say "let's go have a talk", you have every right to say no and leave. Forcing you to do this is holding someone against their will which is illegal.
@danieltubbs458
@danieltubbs458 4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Gargaro another way I’ve seen tipping off is having a woman be the spotter and have them take off their sandals or heals
@KevinTheKevinable
@KevinTheKevinable 2 жыл бұрын
You've probably already seen this elsewhere, but Mickey said he chose Ben to be the BP because he "doesn't trust the girls and Choi is, well, Choi". I personally thought Jill could've made it as a BP.
@alexli3630
@alexli3630 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTheKevinablewhy Jill?
@KevinTheKevinable
@KevinTheKevinable Жыл бұрын
@@alexli3630 Eh mostly, because Jill seemed the most focused out of the counters. The only real difference between being a Spotter and a Big Player was your ability to maintain a cool head. I could be wrong, but it looked to me like she could've done it. At least give her a trial run.
@alexli3630
@alexli3630 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTheKevinable ah I see
@jeremymiller3172
@jeremymiller3172 4 жыл бұрын
Ben: "What was Bens name?"
@ryanboldt7751
@ryanboldt7751 2 жыл бұрын
Shifting the small advantage the casino has to the player is what’s going to make this more of a grind than what people think. I think it would take a lot more time, effort and hard work then people imagine.
@Tindel10
@Tindel10 11 жыл бұрын
Haha all true stuff but the movie was entertaining and I loved it.
@TomGilroy
@TomGilroy 10 жыл бұрын
Aside from all of the issues they mentioned in this video, there were a few other things I found unbelievable about the film. The primary motivation that the main character has for playing blackjack is to earn enough money to pay for medical school. That's an understandable motive, but throughout the film, we see that his studies are mostly in mathematics and computer science. He doesn't study biological subjects like anatomy or physiology, which would be far more beneficial to him if his intention were to study medicine. Next, in a lecture on non-linear equations, Kevin Spacey's character introduces the Monty Hall problem. I would understand completely if the Money Hall problem were introduced in a lecture on probability theory or statistics, but it seems unusual that it would be mentioned in a lecture on non-linear equations. Finally, there is a lot of the history of mathematics discussed in the lectures. Some lecturers may choose to include some history in mathematics lectures, but most would avoid it entirely. It just takes time away from what you're supposed to be teaching.
@garethaskew-hargreaves6549
@garethaskew-hargreaves6549 10 жыл бұрын
With the Monty Hall problem, maybe the lecturer character was using it as a subtle test, to see who would get it - it was later explained they needed to replace a team member.
@npwolfe
@npwolfe 10 жыл бұрын
Eh, you're a wanna be Vegas big shot, I win
@thatoneguy8412
@thatoneguy8412 2 жыл бұрын
Not that deep bro
@danielmurray8634
@danielmurray8634 10 жыл бұрын
You might also mention the issue with the montages if Ben sitting at a table for a long period of time as many people come and go. A BP would never stay long because of the count resetting with each new shoe (about 11 hands if there are four players, even fewer if he doesn't join until the count is high)
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 10 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
On a 6 deck game with 4 players and a dealer, you would average around 18 hands.
@NinjarioPicmin
@NinjarioPicmin 6 жыл бұрын
@@OriginalGateKeeper isnt it obvious to the casinos if someone changes their seat everytime a shoe is refilled?
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 5 жыл бұрын
@@NinjarioPicmin Never saw a counter constantly changing their seat.
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 5 жыл бұрын
@Sheldon Cooper per shoe. Of course you have to take into account the speed of the dealer and the players taking time to bet and make play decisions.
@christophersanders1856
@christophersanders1856 2 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Fishburn's character mentions the true count to Jim Sturgess when he first meets him. Only reference in the entire movie for true count.
@kor6bigtime592
@kor6bigtime592 4 жыл бұрын
I literally thought that movie was relatively new. Maybe 2016 max lol
@greggstevens826
@greggstevens826 5 жыл бұрын
How do I get this firm? 21 black jack? Please I need it
@MediumDSpeaks
@MediumDSpeaks Жыл бұрын
I was a child when this came out, maybe a tween at best. Crazy that I'm in my late 20s watching this guy and counting cards and he made a video about this movie i loved as a kid WHEN IT CAME OUT, this wasn't a thing (Real X reacts to X related movie scenes) until very recently!,Colin was literally a visionary ahead of his time!
@jz2vador_468
@jz2vador_468 10 жыл бұрын
How long does it take to master card counting? I know basic strategy and how the running count works. But I feel like I need to work on counting while my head is in the game and not lose count.
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Jesus, The amount of time it takes depends on the person. I usually tell people that it takes 100 to 200 hours of practice to get yourself up to a professional level of skill. We have tons of training tools to help you drill it into your head at www.blackjackapprenticeship.com. I'd recommend checking out our free training drills and consider a premium membership to help you take your game to a professional level.
@CrimsonFox36
@CrimsonFox36 6 жыл бұрын
I always tip the dealer. gives me camouflage. I scared the pit-boss once after tipping a dealer (looked like he was new) a green. fun times
@MetaModern-df6he
@MetaModern-df6he 2 жыл бұрын
Now this is a deep cut! That hair Colin!
@thailandtreats4816
@thailandtreats4816 10 жыл бұрын
Most blackjack pros don't tip, it is seen as a waste of money. If the dealers don't make enough money, they should ask their employer for a raise. I would gladly tip, but then I would expect the dealer to do what I want.
@thailandtreats4816
@thailandtreats4816 8 жыл бұрын
+R Kurtz What, you must be a cheesy dealer, or casino owner, OHHH no, I know the answer, you a beggar!!!
@ca-ke9493
@ca-ke9493 5 жыл бұрын
Problem is, the EV is much much lower than the "win", and ur expected to tip a percentage of the win, so if you tip, u are bound to lose money.
@cheesesteakphilly
@cheesesteakphilly 9 жыл бұрын
Haha #7 is pretty funny. They walk in at the same time, they walk in a horizontal line and wear flashy clothes...sort of like they actually wanted to make their presence known. I know it's "movie logic". Entertaining movie nonetheless.
@dmed312
@dmed312 13 жыл бұрын
Question: Do you need to have a team of players to attack the casino at once such as in the movie to earn money effectively at blackjack or can it be done single-handedly?
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
You don't need a team.
@edmundus1581
@edmundus1581 15 жыл бұрын
An interesting video. I enjoyed it!
@Mastertogo929
@Mastertogo929 16 жыл бұрын
is it good to start learning at a young age? if its good to start learning blackjack, what age would be good?
@pfog
@pfog 10 жыл бұрын
the card counting christians!!! i love it.
@RandyMarsh99895
@RandyMarsh99895 Жыл бұрын
I just love how Colin keeps saying "the next thing that was inaccurate about the movie" lol. This is the first time I've seen a video as old as this. You'd never guess that this is the same Colin from the videos today. It's cool to see him at the beginning of BJA.
@sachinmakhijaips
@sachinmakhijaips 3 жыл бұрын
After 13 year anyone else?
@zppzxoox
@zppzxoox 11 жыл бұрын
great argument there! you completely smouldered their points into oblivion, and you made them look foolish! nice work
@musikk83
@musikk83 9 жыл бұрын
240p really ? filmed with a potato ?
@mr.n476
@mr.n476 6 жыл бұрын
its uploaded in 2008, so it makes sense.
@TechFromTheTropics
@TechFromTheTropics 6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly 😂
@allistergraham6704
@allistergraham6704 6 жыл бұрын
@@mr.n476 you do know youtube had 720p videos since early 2007
@Nonoethai
@Nonoethai 5 жыл бұрын
@@allistergraham6704 but these guys were poor and couldn't afford 720p camera
@nocakeforsusan8701
@nocakeforsusan8701 3 жыл бұрын
@@allistergraham6704 but 240 in 2008 was still acceptable. Plus buying an expensive (in 2008) upgrade in equipment is a waste of $ and eats into their EV.
@EmpireJonesMCA
@EmpireJonesMCA 10 жыл бұрын
WOW just watched the documentary on you guys and your team. Afterwards looked up some videos and came across this one. So has the focused shifted completely to training newbies or do you ever play any more ?
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 10 жыл бұрын
We will play on special occasions but we no longer run the Church team. We disbanded at the end of 2011 but we're still as passionate as ever about training a new crop of card counters. Our next bootcamp in Vegas will be November 1st!
@scottlarrabee467
@scottlarrabee467 7 жыл бұрын
Link to the documentary? Would love to see it
@desil1056
@desil1056 10 жыл бұрын
I am ten and can count a half a shuffled deck. but im still slow
@cjyoung999
@cjyoung999 5 жыл бұрын
Desil10 well ur 14 now and shud b on the verge of being a pro if u kept it up? How’s it been going ? Lol
@eltazz760
@eltazz760 5 жыл бұрын
@@cjyoung999 I know right
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 2 жыл бұрын
Wait I just realized you're at my age
@wildside316
@wildside316 15 жыл бұрын
Is the scene in question the one where the guy Ben replaced came to Ben's table drunk tryin' to mess with him?
@epif
@epif 11 жыл бұрын
Dealer makes a fucking normal wage, he isn't a fucking waiter. Do you tip everyone who rings you up at stores too? How about lifeguards? No? You only need to tip people whose pay is lower than minimum wage because they are expected to be tipped. Waiters, waitresses, valets, maybe doormen if you feel generous. That is it. Remember, if you work at fucking McDonald's that dealer makes more money than you do.
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
Dealers pay scale is less the McDonald's. I have worked at a casino whose toke rate was dismal and I know the Slot Attendants were making more the dealers did. Hell, the floor sweepers did too!
@fernandogarcia-jl9wy
@fernandogarcia-jl9wy 10 жыл бұрын
hey I know you guys use a true count of hi-lo. I used zen count but have been recently debating to switching from a true edge to a true count for my conversions. The publisher of q-fit, norm wattenburg, stated that zen with true count is highly better but in Arnold Synders book he states true edge is better. And one last thing how can hi-lo be the best system if its a level one system??
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 10 жыл бұрын
Hi-Lo is not the "best" system in terms of achievable advantage, but it is usually a better choice because of it's simplicity. There are level two systems that may give you a slightly better advantage but they are more taxing on the brain and are more prone to making mistakes. Human beings are not computers, so picking a system that is effective but not too complicated usually produces the best results. If you want a comparison of various systems you can visit this page: www.blackjackapprenticeship.com/resources/card-counting-systems/
@js800
@js800 5 жыл бұрын
Collin you should grow your hair back out.
@angelmoreno5058
@angelmoreno5058 4 жыл бұрын
Gay
@Jakethasnake52
@Jakethasnake52 3 жыл бұрын
@@angelmoreno5058 lol
@Tri3Face
@Tri3Face 14 жыл бұрын
hey another one i noticed is that in a diner the one girl Jill i think her name was had said to the other girl that you shouldnt split 8s on 10s and Aces, but isn't that false since arent you suppose to split 8s at all times with a 6deck shoe Vegas Rules
@mrmacross
@mrmacross 9 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the book. I really disliked the movie. Therefore, I'm just going to throw out there that the movie is just terrible for so many reasons. The idea of the evil MIT professor is totally made up for the movie. The video also pointed out that if a corporate casino's security head beats the living crap out of you, you sue the casino, especially when hundreds of people can see your bloody and bruised face as you try to walk out. It's also totally laughable that the movie's hero is not only a genius intellectual, but has no real desire to make money other than for the noble cause of paying for his medical school education (what, the genius never heard of taking a loan like the thousands of other medical students out there?). And finally, let's also point out that while the book made a point of emphasis that in the early 1990's casinos assumed young gambling Asians were children of wealthy businessmen and used that misconception to fly under the radar, the movie made the main characters white. Yeah, screw 21.
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
Correct! The leader of the team was named "Johnny Chang".
@StorySteven
@StorySteven 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake at the beginning of the movie is choosing a door in which he has a 33% chance because there are three doors and one is taken away and they claim he has a 66% chance now which is inaccurate it's 50%. You did not add 33% you took away 33%, which completely changes the equation. There are two doors and you are choosing one which is 50% no matter how you slice it.
@hbk314
@hbk314 2 жыл бұрын
That isn't a mistake. You just missed the point.
@johngaltline9933
@johngaltline9933 2 ай бұрын
It's the Monty hall problem, look it up. Given the exact conditions provided, the movie gets it right. Statistically speaking, new information is provided, so you should switch. It's counter-intuitive, but the math works.
@surryj
@surryj 14 жыл бұрын
i want 8:56 minutes of my life back.
@koreankid28
@koreankid28 15 жыл бұрын
What's the book called?
@geniebalvin6685
@geniebalvin6685 10 жыл бұрын
1. the movie was great 2. ALWAYS tip your dealer ALWAYS 3. you 2 need a life 4. come to my casino ill kick you ass with a smile on my face 5. ALWAYS tip your dealer ALWAYS
@thailandtreats4816
@thailandtreats4816 10 жыл бұрын
Never tip the dealer, let them bum out on the street.
@ELCLAVE300
@ELCLAVE300 10 жыл бұрын
Gamblers tip, they tip like crazy even when they lose. Professionals tip at the end of a session only. IF they tip at all.
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 10 жыл бұрын
Francisco Lopez We disagree. We usually only see gamblers tip when they're winning or when they win a big hand or a big side-bet payout. Professionals rarely tip at all.
@ELCLAVE300
@ELCLAVE300 10 жыл бұрын
***** Im sorry I wasnt clear. I can only base on what I see everyday at the casinos in my area. Gamblers tip when they are losing because they believe in Karma, that if they tip the cards will fall in their favor.
@thailandtreats4816
@thailandtreats4816 10 жыл бұрын
Players tip because they don't know any better. Some think that if they tip that they will have better luck, some think they should tip because they have won some money, some tip because they seen someone else tip, and think it is a custom. All tipping does is it saves the rich casino owner from paying a proper wage. If everyone doesn't tip, then the casinos would have to pay a better wage....DON'T TIP!!!!!
@mistyflips
@mistyflips 12 жыл бұрын
Why did they keep splitting tens?
@fodolocraigo8426
@fodolocraigo8426 6 жыл бұрын
which pixel is your favorite?
@ianandersen265
@ianandersen265 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe you were actually running your website and posting a few videos while playing actively and running your team. Insane!
@GaParanormal
@GaParanormal Жыл бұрын
7:37 LOL I'm writing this fifteen years after y'all met the video so but you're talkin about is yeah basically they were pretty much just for shadowing because that is exactly what kind of system software they use in casinos nowadays they do use facial-recognition software and other kinds of security software...
@paul1060
@paul1060 16 жыл бұрын
what the difference between the running count and the true count?
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
Running count is the count of the cards seen already,. True count is the amount of + or - cards extra per deck remaining in the shoe.
@nclements27
@nclements27 14 жыл бұрын
@jameswoods2001 I think they were more concerned with the frequency and the amount of tips being given. They never said not to tip at all.
@GaParanormal
@GaParanormal Жыл бұрын
It's an unspoken rule that you need to tip your dealer and the person of the Cascades if you win big... Because they're working for minimum wage...
@pbarcubez
@pbarcubez 14 жыл бұрын
how does card counting help win in black jack?? i dont get it pls explain kindly...
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
by knowing the count, you can determine when you, the player, have an advantage over a casino and by how much. Together with advanced strategy, you can maximize the advantage you have.
@tiktaktokou3351
@tiktaktokou3351 11 жыл бұрын
These guys are telling the truth... unlike movies that advertise for gambling to make you loose money. here they explain what blackjack really is
@marie41789
@marie41789 16 жыл бұрын
i thought the same thing but wouldnt it raise flags with the IRS if u just go deposit 300grand in the bank. and its not showing on your paychecks
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
A cash transaction report would need to be given to the IRS. The bank is legally required to obtain and file it.
@lampard1986
@lampard1986 16 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me the name of the russian professor of mathematics from the discoverytv trailer??he has legendary status in all moscow casinos for counting cards and winning money..someone knows his name ???
@NowherManYoshi
@NowherManYoshi 16 жыл бұрын
calling 911 would NOT get you in more trouble. Counting cards isn't illeagal and therefore you can't get in trouble with the police. The people at the casino can throw you out, but the cops can't do anything about it!
@FearlessSpinner
@FearlessSpinner 16 жыл бұрын
I loved the movie and so i got more into black jack.Thanks for the tips!
@vojo2006
@vojo2006 15 жыл бұрын
DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHTS TEH BOOK CALLED?
@marevico
@marevico 16 жыл бұрын
ok i never really got wat the whole plus 16 or like minus 6 stuff is the higher the number the bettr cahnce u hav or sumthig like thta?
@Voileen
@Voileen 16 жыл бұрын
yeah, I noticed that as well about the true count. The true count is the card count divided by the number of decks left in the shoe. Of course, they did say what their true count was, but never mentioned that it was in fact the "true count" or the reasoning behind it.
@bobjohnson7498
@bobjohnson7498 5 жыл бұрын
Fight for together?
@TroyOi
@TroyOi 12 жыл бұрын
They didn't pan the movie, simply pointed out where it diverges from the reality of card counting. And in so doing, I think they did a good job of shedding light on a lot of aspects of what card counting is all about. And you're right, maybe card counting isn't "highly profitable" (though that may depend on one's definition of highly), but it seems to be *reliably* profitable -- just as any house with a 51-49 advantage over the players will always be reliably profitable long term.
@Smallvillefreak
@Smallvillefreak Жыл бұрын
So was it mistakes, inaccuracies, or myths?
@mikeerickson967
@mikeerickson967 2 жыл бұрын
there are about 100 things wrong with that movie. Lets name a couple: First when joe said she had a comped suite at the hard rock and her and been go have happy time togeather it shows the view of the bellagio. the hard rock WAS nowhere near the bellaGIO. second: it shows them playing at redrock casino. the redrock is way way way way off the strip. why would they go clear out there? there is no point to it when you all these casinos on the strip. Next when it shows bens first time in vegas it shows them going down the strip in a limo and they end up at the hard rock. the hard rock WAS like right next to the airport and nowhere near the strip, why would they need to drive down the strip to get there? i was really disappointed with that movie.
@alexli3630
@alexli3630 Жыл бұрын
It’s a green screen they don’t actually film in any hotel rooms beside the first one
@samra3000
@samra3000 15 жыл бұрын
how would you convert the running count to the true count? anyone plz
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
by dividing the running count by the number of decks remaining in the shoe
@tippership
@tippership 16 жыл бұрын
EVEN without knowing the true count, youd still know when the odds favor you.. still ,a question,.. , yesterday i played blackjack, dealer was using 4 decks, the number stayed aroung -5( i kno, sucks, but in the end managed 120000)...how would i calculate the true count? i was a bit lucky, though not the BEST at that table, but.....
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
True Count is the running count divided by the number of decks remaining in the shoe.
@DarthArma
@DarthArma 13 жыл бұрын
nice job guys. Sheds light on alot of things. keep it up :)
@cky297
@cky297 12 жыл бұрын
1) Not really "inaccurate." If she doesn't think it's about strategy, she can voice her opinion. 2) Again, not really inaccurate. You even said it yourself that he was in a rush. And so, he can tip them whatever he wants. There's no law against it. 3) They wanted to keep viewers and not confused. 4) He was obviously scared and didn't want to reveal anything. 5) If you recall, at least one of those times was when Fisher did it on purpose. 6) It's a movie. Everything can't be right.
@pbarcubez
@pbarcubez 14 жыл бұрын
oh guys tnx now i get it.. but is it allowed in the casinos? coz i see in the movie, its not allowed
@Brinne618
@Brinne618 16 жыл бұрын
in this day, almost every subject for entertainment, whether it be game or movie or whatever, relies on knowledge of the past. In Assassin's Creed, they make several references about some symbols of the lines of Peru or something and quotes from the past. In 21, they didn't research enough, I'm just saying, expect to see accurate movies in the future. Oh and thanks for clearing this up for people who took the movie too seriously. Unique way of teaching people, guys. :3
@RILEYproMAGICIAN
@RILEYproMAGICIAN 14 жыл бұрын
if they use 6 decks in casino ... wont there be like 2 or 3 duplicate cards at once at times
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
or more. At one of the casinos I worked at, we had 4, 6 and, 8 deck games.
@cristianruedacarballo4065
@cristianruedacarballo4065 9 жыл бұрын
Another mistake: at the begining of the film, the main character says: "I had heard "blackjack" at least 14 times that night", and counting cards doesn't make you get more blackjacks, you just use it to know when to bet a lot.
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 9 жыл бұрын
yes you're right, that was a bit of an exaggeration. The frequency of blackjacks will be the same but card counters will generally have more money on the table when they do happen.
@sniper275
@sniper275 15 жыл бұрын
dude the guy on the left is such a fkn lanky count lol and he never stops smiling
@PLATINUMHUMMERZ
@PLATINUMHUMMERZ 15 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video.
@fvgerr
@fvgerr 11 жыл бұрын
is that Zach from Saved By the Bell?
@HekuranTheMan
@HekuranTheMan 16 жыл бұрын
They did mention the true count, when the security guy comes up to the table for the first time to intimitade the lead actor and he gets scared and tries to walk away, he says something along the lines of "why are you leaving now when you know the count is +12, making the true count 4" so given that there is 3 decks left, that is a reasonable number to call the bp and given that no one is going to learn card counting from he movie, it was not necessary to make a bigger deal out of the true count
@callogician
@callogician 15 жыл бұрын
Great video. All of these negative comments are from people who don't count cards (for whom the video is not intended).
@wyliekat32
@wyliekat32 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this so blury?
@danown91
@danown91 9 жыл бұрын
Do you guys play blackjack only, or do you play poker too?
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 9 жыл бұрын
Danny Chang Dabbled in poker. Blackjack was the main gig for sure.
@mehdizeddouk
@mehdizeddouk 8 жыл бұрын
+Blackjack Apprenticeship what is the difference between the running cout and tge true count
@laxjoh
@laxjoh 11 жыл бұрын
I see so working in duo's like that in one table is not really counting but more of conning the dealer and others in the table?
@GhostInTheShell29
@GhostInTheShell29 14 жыл бұрын
I've yet to try counting at a casino mainly because I got basic strategy pretty well memorized, but as your true count moves your basic strategy also changes, plus your adding in a whole nother set of numbers to constantly work with while you play. I practiced it some online with fake money, won't try it for real till i'm 100% comfortable with it and that will mean many more hours of practice, plus a bankroll i don't currently have.
@makeupaddict1
@makeupaddict1 16 жыл бұрын
good work lads. I see what ya's were tryin to do. I'll check yah site out. I've been counting for a little while and I agree with what you're saying. Keep up the good work.
@charbel961
@charbel961 14 жыл бұрын
@argentinakeeper10 actually, i think he was talking about the scene by the end where their teacher plays with ben once as a big player and if i remember good, they show them playing on the same table with disguises !!
@will8bill
@will8bill 13 жыл бұрын
I thought that the biggest inaccuracy of the movie was that the MIT kid didn't know how to use a bank and instead opted for hiding money that wasn't being searched for like it was stolen, above a ceiling tile.
@P3sc
@P3sc 12 жыл бұрын
I love the amount of sarcasm used in that comment. It actually stung me in the eye a little bit. :P
@DoGeeseSeeGod24
@DoGeeseSeeGod24 11 жыл бұрын
Most of these "mistakes" aren't even mistakes, they just result from you not paying enough attention, lol. On the other hand there are some big mistakes you missed: 1. In one scene Kate Bosworth's character (Jill) says you should not split eights vs a 10. 2. In another scene Ben splits tens! You'd think these guys would know their basic strategy! ;)
@thecomputerist
@thecomputerist 14 жыл бұрын
I have a question, i read that counting cards is not illigal but some casinos may kick you out, then why did he get all dragged away and got the shit beat of offf him
@OriginalGateKeeper
@OriginalGateKeeper 6 жыл бұрын
That part was fiction. The character was also fictional
@MarcoCardenas
@MarcoCardenas 16 жыл бұрын
so unnecessary. people like you are so funny. good luck with life guys :)
@_absolo
@_absolo 3 ай бұрын
i believe at one point they also mentioned to not split 8s vs a 10 but in reality, according to basic strategy, one should actually always split 8s, even against an ace
@ShimmeringPilgrim
@ShimmeringPilgrim 8 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the person. Everyone has their own opinion on tipping. I had a pit boss suggest to me to tip the dealer when I was coloring up. She said I should tip the dealer and the other dealer behind her where I had also won. I just mumbled something and walked away. Another time, a dealer who I had been chatting casually with for a while began to say, "I thought you were a nice guy." and "Im surprised". And I told her that I tip at the end, or when I leave. She didnt like that idea. And at another place nearby, I had spilt aces 4 times and then hit a 10 on each one. It was amazing. And as the dealer plays out her hand, I hear the pit boss utter," I bet he wont give her a dollar either." Yes I won the hand, no I didnt give her a dollar. The concept of tipping seems to turn adults into spoiled brats.
@boonyewlee1065
@boonyewlee1065 6 жыл бұрын
After 10 hand lose follow math card counting blackjack The next hand Should I still follow math card counting of blackjack
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 6 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@SandwhichDepartment
@SandwhichDepartment 14 жыл бұрын
If you care about card counting then this is a good video. If you don't, you shouldn't be watching this video.
@pearcake
@pearcake 14 жыл бұрын
@pbarcubez You "count" which cards are already used (no longer in deck) and which are still in the deck, that way you can find out how big of a chance there is of getting "blackjack" (21)
@GaParanormal
@GaParanormal Жыл бұрын
6:15 I think the reason Lee did this was to show that it is in blackjack when your kind of car do you have to be able to do things fast you have to be able to know the count and even though it's only addition and subtraction you need to be able to do that fast and somebody with a high IQ like the big player or the main character Ben... Would be able to you know Cal really fast and make a decision really really fast... it is somewhat important to have an above-average IQ because you have to be able to you know calculate odds and stuff on the spot and even though it is just simple addition and subtraction people's nerves get to them so they'd be able may need to be able to be second nature when it comes to doing stuff like that
@PatrickThayer
@PatrickThayer 16 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I didnt know to call the cops if someone puches me in the face! You guys must go to MIT for sure
@charbel961
@charbel961 14 жыл бұрын
@argentinakeeper10 acually, i think he meant the scene at the end where the teacher plays with ben as a big player, and they show them on the same table with disguises !
@thehalokiller6676
@thehalokiller6676 12 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the guy from Church Team? Just saw that movie last night LOL.
@svguerin3
@svguerin3 16 жыл бұрын
Good vid. I had the same impressions. One to maybe add to the list is the fact that they went to the same casino every time in the movie! When in real life (and in the book), they went to different casinos all over the country (and world in some cases).
@GaParanormal
@GaParanormal Жыл бұрын
5:08 that was my biggest pet peeve all movie is that they all came in together... I mean not just a blackjack Furniture in a committed crime any kind of crime you don't walk in with your compasses you walk in at different times four different days... 💯
@4bidenSkyProductions
@4bidenSkyProductions 16 жыл бұрын
when somebody punches you in hte face and hands you a business card, you can call the cops. THATS EPIC RIGHT THERE!!! SO TRUE!!!
@karimamin2
@karimamin2 12 жыл бұрын
1) Wrong 2) Wrong again. You don't know how much the guy has won in total. If he won over 100k, 5k tip is nothing 3) The viewers wouldn't be entertained if they actually went as slow as it should be 4) He could have called the cops but was scared. This happens with a lot of things (i.e rape) 5) Ergo why you aren't blackjack champs 6) Again, you don't know how it was played so you're just guessing
@37no37
@37no37 13 жыл бұрын
congratulation. you are doing a good job, may I ask you something about strageries in games? do you know statistics? patterns?
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