I apologize for the muffled audio in this one. Pulled something in my back the other day and it was just too sore to sit normally so I was laying back in the recliner with the laptop on my lap while recording this. Should be better by the time the next vid comes out. Peace homies!
@dennisadler92997 жыл бұрын
Tomn8er what did you mean about the pic you showed before nr 4? 😊
@somekindaguy1007 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate,i like your spin on things.Keep up the great work. Shout out from Australia.
@danandersson20187 жыл бұрын
well said rod .
@anthonyparker69286 жыл бұрын
Tomn8er Micheal Ashley was a career claimed natural bodybuilder of the 90s
@christopherrembert63566 жыл бұрын
Tomn8er ARNOLD HAD WEAK BODY PARTS COMPARED TO THE OTHER? Uh yeah, because he wasn't on the advanced drugs we have today. And, Frank Zane is top 3 most aesthetically pleasing bodybuilder of all time.
@pricerowland4 жыл бұрын
The Big Ramy placing has aged well now that he's got a Sandow.
@no1noseimelvis373 жыл бұрын
Try two
@jamesdavey86753 жыл бұрын
@@no1noseimelvis37 you beat me to saying this haha
@michaelmurray65773 жыл бұрын
Commenting from the future, I must say it's pretty amazing how he called it since now Ramy has 3 Sandows under his belt and the updates now before the 2022 Mr O are crazy.
@dalewilson96023 жыл бұрын
2 x
@willthomas59533 жыл бұрын
He has 2 not 3..
@michaelelijah9714 жыл бұрын
5:49 “big but still N A T T Y L O O K I N G” my god, if that’s the case then i just wanna look like small ramy
@retromotivegarage7537 жыл бұрын
Sergio's muscle insertions are unreal. It's crazy how good he was.
@lokoloko3392 жыл бұрын
His skeletal structure more so.
@drstephenwoods6 жыл бұрын
Robbie Robinson had some incredible genetics as well. Good size, balanced aesthetics and tiny joints. Young guys should check him out too.
@jasonito235 жыл бұрын
Robbie is still on swole at age 72 with full blown sickle cell.
@dleigh99975 жыл бұрын
Yes but he's not top ten! There loads of guys with great genetics that ain't on here....
@evanjarman77945 жыл бұрын
The swole Michael Jackson! 💪🏻🕴🏼
@peterjohnson89355 жыл бұрын
The Black Prince. One of my favourites. 👍
@raritica84097 жыл бұрын
The Myth was incredible.. I've never seen an arms overhead pose done so well. Never.
@cody89076 жыл бұрын
Roman Hamm victory pose*
@aasserelzoghby67814 жыл бұрын
Lee priest?
@barney21594 жыл бұрын
If we're also talking 22:10, man just imagine how scary and brutal that would look like in real life, like walking past him in the gym while he's doing the pose, his arms bigger than your goddamn head. I'd have my confidence utterly disassembled for a while.
@georgemavrov13094 жыл бұрын
Paul Dillet?
@raritica84094 жыл бұрын
@@georgemavrov1309 never seen him do that particular pose tho
@leart785 жыл бұрын
jay cutlers Quad Stomp pose was the BEST moment in bodybuilding history, period.
@MeanBeanComedy5 жыл бұрын
Hell yes.
@loping45 жыл бұрын
Hahah fuck yeah
@DaDonBossMan5 жыл бұрын
If not it’s definitely top 3
@UniqueCarsChannel5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@iluvmym45 жыл бұрын
le Art I’ll have to check that out His legs are epic
@dalewilson82616 жыл бұрын
Ronnie swoleman 😂😂
@manuelignaciodelgadotalave79583 жыл бұрын
:O
@botanicalabe7 жыл бұрын
To everyone saying Dorian Yates should’ve been on, he worked incredibly hard in the gym. He was probably one of the greatest Mr.Olympias of all time, no doubt, but he had to work for it. Who would have better genetics? Someone that trained every day in a week, ate properly, and took the steroids, or someone that trained 3 times, ate like shit, took minimal steroids, and still looked good.
@Tomn8er7 жыл бұрын
Yeah Dorian's actually an example of someone who succeeded in spite of lesser genetics. Yes he was gifted in the back and calves and had a great structure but other than that nothing too impressive about the guy when you break it down piece by piece. He just outworked everybody in the gym with his laser-focussed intensity
@mikejmarvin6 жыл бұрын
Moe's Dorian would agree
@mx88195 жыл бұрын
Dorian himself even said he didn’t have great genetics like the other guys but he had a harder work ethic.
@bramdriessens5942 Жыл бұрын
Dorian only trained 3x a week for about a hour each session though.......
@xeji43488 ай бұрын
@bramdriessens5942 Perhaps. But he did it with a stupidly high level of intensity tho. The man was almost killing himself every time he stepped into a gym 51524
@sandorclegane18564 жыл бұрын
Your words are true, finally big rammy won Olympia 2020.👍👍👍👍
@murtazaahmadi7643 жыл бұрын
Yes becous of Rolle winklar was off 🛸
@gabbeskillz62623 жыл бұрын
@@murtazaahmadi764 Roelly's never winning the Olympia.
@jamesdavey86753 жыл бұрын
@@murtazaahmadi764 rolley at his best only got 3rd in 2018.
@monsoon11747 жыл бұрын
Rammy has really big calves, over 20 inches actually. Its just he has 36 inch thighs, which makes almost anyone's calves look small. He'd need a pair like Dorian or Dallas in order to be proportional. He has uber thighs with average or good calves.
@Tomn8er7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I completely agree but it's all relative though. His uber thighs make his average calves look downright shitty
@monsoon11747 жыл бұрын
In his most recent showings, particularly the Arnold Classic in Spain, his calves aren't bad. During that show, his calves didn't look out of proportion with his upper thighs, though they could still use a bit of extra size. I think you're basing your assumption of poor calves off of Rammy's earlier years. They were atrociously underdeveloped during that time for sure, but he simply wasn't training them. They've responded well to the training he's done so far. I don't think Rammy has a genetic weak point honestly. He's about as perfect as a bodybuilder can be. He just has to pull it all together then he'll be the GOAT. Time will tell if he ever can though. Personally, my fingers are crossed, hoping he will at some point.
@jordandangelo18087 жыл бұрын
River Hewitt Damnnnn 20 inch calves??!?!! I have huge calves and their super ripped but 20 inch calves are insane and I guarantee no matter how big or small they look that when you see those calves in person they are going to look fucking enormous on some next level shit. Ramy's new progress pics, and don't freak out if you read this Tom, but he honestly looks like he could beat Phil! Yes beat Phil! But how you ask? Two reasons, his level of mass is the same as Phil's if not better and more importantly, Ramy is 330lbs shredded to the bone!!! He has no gut whatsoever. Forget bubble gut he doesn't even have a regular gut. Hiis stomach goes in now and is a pure 6-pack with crazy obliques too. His skin is looking ultra thin and his chest looks so full in a way I've never seen on anyone before. Look at Luimarco's latest video comparing his latest pics to Phil last year without and preconceived notions about what the LUI thinks about Ramy ( even though his points are usually valid ) and compare the front double and lat spread to Phil's. he smokes him! I know he needs all the mandatories to win but besides the most muscular, ( Ramys hands on hips most muscular is close to Phil's ) Ramy might have him on even the side tricep. We all know his legs are better than Phil's. Check it out and make a video on it. Canadian Bacon was the bomb movie! Lol
@mathieumichaud67965 жыл бұрын
Ramy has shitty calves and not perfect proportions , phil heath should coach him 😂
@MichaelB16663 жыл бұрын
Your comment aged very well my friend. Good eyes. And the NEW!
@johnbutz56317 жыл бұрын
I agree that Sergio was the best! I remember seeing him on "Wide world Of Sports" on TV when I was a kid around 1968-70. He was a monster, freakish, he didn't look human. He'd stick out his right thigh relaxed, shake it, it was like this huge water balloon, then he'd tense it hard and you would hear gasps from the crowd I was like carved granite. The other contestants often would just not compete in the same contest because they knew Olivia had already won. Even by today's drug induced bodies few hold a candle to Sergio. now think about this for a moment, Sergio had a full time job, as a COP no less, plus he was not known for being a year around trainer, disciplined dieter, or a good poser. Imagine Sergio if he was alive today, in his early 30's and was given a full year to train for Mr. Olympia. He has gurus to help him with his diet and training, sponsers to buy him al the food supplements and gear he needs, and the motivation to train hard like a Million Dollar pay out to win the contest. Sergio was 5'9"-10" his completion weight was around 240. Imagine him coming in ripped at 270-5 lbs with a 30-1 inch waist! He's blow Phil Heath off the stage, folks.
@Tomn8er7 жыл бұрын
You're right it's scary to think how good he could've been. I think had he been born a couple decades later and competed in the 90s we might've had indisputably the greatest and most dominant bodybuilder who ever lived, never mind Schwarzenegger, Yates or Coleman! As it is Oliva's still way up there despite what a colossal disadvantage he was at.
@humphrex6 жыл бұрын
I dont agree, but i wont disagree either, since we cant know. As Tom said himself, being resistant to drugs and the effect of roid is genetics as well. So while Sergio was huge on tes only, he might have not responded as well as guys like Ronnie to modern drugs.
@naturelover23476 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you
@BruceCSnow6 жыл бұрын
I watched Sergio on Wild World of Sports around 1970. When he hit the most muscular it looked like a turtle sticking its head out of its shell. Who knows what Sergio could have been if he'd have Weider's backing, moving him out to Cali and giving him the right 'guidance.'
@rh_BOSS6 жыл бұрын
Oliva maxed out at around 230. He'd have to take HGH and insulin to get to 270 lbs like everybody else does these days. So he'd look like everybody else does these days, distended gut and all. Common drug protocols define the look of a bb era. Why do you think noone these days can attain that granite hard look that top guys had in Yates/early Coleman era? That's definitely not because they don't train hard enough like Dorian says. That's because back then insulin wasn't used to such an extent and noone took UGL shit made from chinese precursors. Most drugs were still legit pharma grade and made in USA/Europe. Mexico also had several strong pharmaceutical companies operating under the pretense of "veterinary use".
@hughjarms45107 жыл бұрын
Sergio on today's drugs: muscle bellie tiny joint combo of Phil Heath,freaky mass of Ronnie,bone structure of Dennis Wolf!!!
@zero98ify7 жыл бұрын
hugh jarms im gonna have to really doubt that. He'd look a lot like his son on today's drugs, maybe just bigger
@emanuelmanvelyan33957 жыл бұрын
His son hasnt the arms or a waist of his Father, not even the chest.
@zero98ify7 жыл бұрын
emanuel manvelyan his son has bigger legs for sure and he does have a small waist. He has a bigger back too. Their arms are almost the same size. I do agree about the chest though, father had a larger chest though in terms of thickness they’re similar. Son has better conditioning at the moment
@emanuelmanvelyan33957 жыл бұрын
Bigger Legs yeah, but the rest is not correct. Sergio had the most incredible proprotions ever, his Arms looked as big as his waist.
@raritica84097 жыл бұрын
zero98ify Sergio Sr. Has much bigger lats and back than his son. Compare their arms overhead pose and you'll see Sr. had incredible lats.
@alfonsorodriguez64377 жыл бұрын
Sergio was on the Cuban national weightlifting team in the early sixties and defected during the Central American Games in Kingston, Jamaica in 1962. The rest, as they say, is history. He competed in the A.A.U. Mr America several times in the mid sixties and won the most muscular competition but second overall even though he was obviously the best. He also won the Jr Mr America. In 1966, I saw pictures of Sergio in an old Spanish language Mexican bodybuilding magazine (from 1961) a friend of mine had,showing him as a teenager in Cuba lifting and posing and he was impressive even as a teenager. Back then, the A.A.U. Mr America required that its competitors show some background in other sports, like Olympic lifting, track & field, power lifting, and were awarded extra points. He competed in A.A.U Jr Nationals Weightlifting Championships, which he won as a middle heavy, and there were pictures published in the old Muscular Development Magazine from 1965 or so. He got fed up with the A.A.U. and went to the I.F.B.B. like many top bodybuilders in the 1960's. As a weightlifter he showed good technique and flexibility, which is rare for a guy so massive and muscular. He became a police officer in Chicago and was married but years later, after an argument, his wife shot him in the chest with his service revolver. He survived, it take more than a 38 slug to kill a man with with such big and muscular chest. Bodybuilders come and go, but it is very rare to find bodybuilder with so tiny waists in proportion to shoulders. The selection as number one genetically gifted bodybuilder is right on point. My other favorite would be Bill Pearl.
@tomasf.alvarez95566 жыл бұрын
Indeed he was an amazing bodybuilder. I had the fortune of meeting him in person right after hes ordeal with his wife. I used to work for a very good friend of him that used to have a Gym in miami beach hotel Carrillon,this was back in the mid 80's. His wife parents used to lived in miami spring , and he came to visit them at the time. When I met him he told me at the time the best drug to take was Finaject. This was a steroid similar to primobolan,,it came in 50cc botle,and was used for cattle . Anyways,,I though I could share something that I really enjoyed many years ago.
@aynrand00052 жыл бұрын
@@tomasf.alvarez9556 Finaject is trenbolon
@bc9137 жыл бұрын
Big Lenny should've been #1
@ultravioletreeper76305 жыл бұрын
Ben C , naturally:)
@oliverclothesoff53975 жыл бұрын
Or janoy cerevca
@nonamefounder5 жыл бұрын
700lbs ripped
@motinng66553 жыл бұрын
Round muscle bellies
@adan42173 ай бұрын
rip man🙏
@andreromanfitness10923 жыл бұрын
I always wonder how Sergio would have done onstage next to Ronnie if he were competing at that time with access to all the modern drugs and training/nutrition science. IMO he would have a legit chance to win that battle.
@isaacclarke42295 жыл бұрын
Wheeler's aesthetics were best overall... Perfect genetics monster
@willthomas59533 жыл бұрын
Ronnie Coleman craps on wheeler though if your talking strictly bodybuilding judging
@captain01592 жыл бұрын
@@willthomas5953 he wasn't talking about strict judging, hence him mentioning aesthetics.
@willthomas59532 жыл бұрын
@@captain0159 I agree. But if you look at 98 99 Ronnie Coleman that's pretty damn aesthetic. When he got much bigger in 03-04 etc he looked super impressive but not as aesthetic. I agree though wheeler was a specimen to. The amount of muscle and pop he had on such small joints and the way he flowed was godly
@MS-hb3ol5 жыл бұрын
Lee priest is the most genetically gifted bodybuilder. And at just 5'3", for his size, he was actually a mass monster himself. But with perfect symmetry and aesthetics
@mx88195 жыл бұрын
Manikandeshwar Sasidhar didn’t realize how huge he really was until I saw him in the off season.
@veryfinan51875 жыл бұрын
Manikandeshwar Sasidhar not really, have you seen his back.. also he doesn’t have the best lines and conditioning
@campfive5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaa!! 5'3" is genetically gifted only in the Shire, down Bagend...
@jeramysteve33945 жыл бұрын
Yeah his only weak spots are his back and his small chest. Other than that he's a beast.
@xanderguldie5 жыл бұрын
Being short isn't genetically gifted. His chest was also pretty weak. Other than that he was near perfect.
@Indusxstan6 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t sure what you were talking about in case of every bodybuilder but when you chose Sergio Oliva, suddenly you made total sense and then I understood you even about the others! Great analyses.
@FECtetra19187 жыл бұрын
And let's not forget the fact that he (Sergio) looked pretty damn good until the day he died! Great video!
@JoshEssex1236 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the pictures in Flex magazine of the 1993 Arnold Classic and was blown away. Flex Wheeler looked incredible and to this day remains one of my favourite competition physiques of all time.
@LordWout7 жыл бұрын
How can you say that Lee Haney had a 4-pack when the picture on the screen literally shows a 6-pack
@Tomn8er7 жыл бұрын
Aha knew somebody would get me on this. Yeah... I effed up. The gap was the main criticism though
@romelmurdock41875 жыл бұрын
@@Tomn8er youneed to look for more pictures on haney cause your view of him is distorted .......he had size with zero bubblegut but three of your best had bubblegut how can they be the best ever with bubblegut?????
@jasonito235 жыл бұрын
@@romelmurdock4187 : He is going on genetics and doesn't believe that a bubblegut is due to genetics rather overeating and steroid abuse.
@icantstandsbmm88805 жыл бұрын
Romel Murdock His view isn’t distorted. It’s his OPINION. Grow up dude.
@ebofuria6 жыл бұрын
If this guy ever met Nick from Strength & Power. These niggas would become BFF's. Nick is a totally cool dude, imo.
@chrishinal51197 жыл бұрын
This video is perfectly presented!!! Really enjoyed watching it!!!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@Tomn8er7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man spent a lot of time on that script glad it paid off
@NewYorkCityBoxing5 жыл бұрын
I knew from the start that Sergio had to be #1.
@handsomeX6 жыл бұрын
In order to pull off a victory pose you gotta have kick ass aesthetics, small waist, a great V taper, big forearms, and well developed and separated bi's and tri's. There's a reason why only a handful of guys in the history of bodybuilding ever even attempted it.
@KevinM88TR116 жыл бұрын
Good Chanel, I was on when Tom first started his Chanel. Tom you took the criticism in and turned it around into a solid channel. Keep them coming, much enjoyed!
@Anima_Lecter7 жыл бұрын
2007 victor was so complete bro
@markgreenspon7 жыл бұрын
he had a very poor back. its true. it didn't match his body. it was high cut and lacked separation ......he always got puffy big everywhere but his back was small, no lower lats. and he never got cut for a competition... he never competed ... great body builder to see...he was like wow! look at this guy!
@anthonyalfano94407 жыл бұрын
Victor was robbed that year
@pawelkrowalski37305 жыл бұрын
@@markgreenspon what bad back no he had one of the best he is eavin in the top 20 flex magazine for best backs of all time at number 10 so he had one of the best backs ever he had very good lower back too you must mean somebody else!
@markgreenspon5 жыл бұрын
@@pawelkrowalski3730 hey Pawel, refresh my old ass memory. The comment was from a year ago. Who was i talking about? It doesn't say who the subject is.
@98danielray5 жыл бұрын
@@markgreenspon seems you confused vic martinez with vic richards
@AS.477 жыл бұрын
What about Lionel Beyeke? He looks like Flex Wheeler with wider shoulders, more symmetrical abs, lower lat insertions and even rounder muscle bellies. This dude has just absolutely everything.
@Tomn8er7 жыл бұрын
He could be honourable mention and I agree he's the closest thing to a Flex Wheeler we see today... I dunno I just don't see him as better than any of these 10
@surajr80776 жыл бұрын
Great analysis , to be honest Sergio, the holy grail placed first was awesome, On point marking and analysis
@Al-tanin7 жыл бұрын
The fun fact about Sergio Oliva is that you barely even focused on his waist, which was his most absurd selling point. His waist-shoulder-legs proportion weren't just absurd, they were armonious. (when i say barely focused, i mean compared to how good of a characteristic it was)
@nikolaizetrov6175 жыл бұрын
Damn Sergio Oliva was really a blessed one.
@giovannyc38867 жыл бұрын
Best gotta be Sergio... only problem is he never dieted
@jamesvincent44725 жыл бұрын
Whys that a problem?
@mx88195 жыл бұрын
James Vincent because we never got to see how good he really was dieting is everything to a BB guy probably would still be winning Olympia’s today
@burritomaker695 жыл бұрын
Segio is hardly the best. He was massive in the arms but beautiful aesthetic shape, density, just overall quality lacked. The rest of his body was much weaker when compared to his arms. Sergio is highly overrated unlike someone like Arnold was of similar time. Arnold is a prime example of when hype meets actual potential. Arnold has amazing shape and conditioning potential in which Sergio never really showed all that much promise.
@lloydkline69464 жыл бұрын
I love Sergio Olivia late 1960s body, 1972 body
@cristopherpino96894 жыл бұрын
@@burritomaker69 arnold is also overhyped, sergio also had amazing shape (prob better shape bc arnold midsection is blocky and a 4 pack) and arnold had hella help from wieder
@sifublackirishdiamondjedi41975 жыл бұрын
I am 63 years old and I have been lifting weights all my life. Now I am going to lift heavier than before. Certainly not going to be Arnold's stunt double, I am 6'2" and 155 lbs. Lost 80 lbs when I was homeless. Your excellent analysis is giving me more motivation to become my ideal expression of physical culture, a Greek statue. Subscribed!
@diveshades91926 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking all the time to research this and give your top picks and justificationS which resulted in a terrific and interesting video to the bodybuilders of yesterday and today. I have got to agree with most of your picks including Sergio Oliva as number 1. If he had been sponsored by the Weider's like Arnold was, we would have gotten to see more of his potential realized. Imagine Sergio not having to work and just work out with his peers in California. He would have brought more size and more importantly more separation and definition to the stage. Truly sad that Sergio did not have the guidance to realize his potential as the greatest bodybuilder of all time. With that said, he did have the best genetics of all time as you have said.
@politicsonsight60455 жыл бұрын
Flex the Great Wheeler confirms the claim about Ronnie competing naturally as an IFBB Pro! So you'd better to be a Believer Too "BUDDY".
@cheetoyeeto12324 жыл бұрын
Sauce boss. Sauce.
@hmackprotection14 жыл бұрын
3 name changes allowed every 90 days. Ronnie Literally didn’t start juicing until around 1996. He truly was as natural as they came his first 7yrs of bodybuilding
@giganticitalianbodybuildin15844 жыл бұрын
@@hmackprotection1 This also would explain the blow he made in that year.
@lazur16 жыл бұрын
i saw Sergio in '78, in a custom-tailored police uniform. I questioned my eyesight. At first, I thought it was a 400 lb obese cop. Then, i saw the taper, down to that 29" waist!!!!
@MrShahrozzz7 жыл бұрын
Always hard to disagree with your choices. Good job man
@stefan1301897 жыл бұрын
*easy
@carlosmarialusarreta29087 жыл бұрын
turco masca bulto jajajajaja
@skycorrigan65116 жыл бұрын
Shahroz Khan it's always hard to agree with your choices. Good job man.
@kosaadrian6 жыл бұрын
Hmm at the begining Dorian would be the No1 for me but I see your point in genetics and drug abuse especially for someone from 1960... Though Dorian can be in top 5 but its sooo difficult to reevaluate all of these bbuildres.. nice video btw
@kayledarius49653 жыл бұрын
@@kosaadrian dorian number 1? Bad arms Bad abs Bad chest Bad quads Yes probably top 1 most genetically gifted
@BIGFREAKYMAN7 жыл бұрын
shots at luimarco at 4:30 loool
@dukes83596 жыл бұрын
Baby please
@anthcesana6 жыл бұрын
On a daiiily
@tasdude32275 жыл бұрын
he's overhyped on a daiLY basis
@naturelover23476 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right by placing Sergio to number one. Truly Sergio has got sooooooo God gifted genetics that no other bodybuilder has been able to get that till date. He is the king.
@ronyboy406 жыл бұрын
The king of body building was dianabol
@amneenja57205 жыл бұрын
i saw Arnold not make the list, and then saw Sergio and my jaw dropped. sheer raw energy emanating off of him, a king.
@amneenja57205 жыл бұрын
also jesus his waist is stupidly small
@anthonyariola11494 жыл бұрын
How did Kai not make the list at all? Dude looked like a pro at 16 natural.
@asnmdnss3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have any traps lol...that's probably why
@saurabh75prakash3 жыл бұрын
No traps and forearm, blocky structure.
@blakesmith44726 жыл бұрын
fact check, steroids became prominent in bodybuilding with synthesized test and dianabol as early as the 1930s bro. look it up lol. other than that your two videos were fun to watch and pretty spot on in my opinion.
@Torengest7 жыл бұрын
I expected no less than sergio oliva on nr 1 :D
@jeramysteve33945 жыл бұрын
Dude even got shot in the stomach 5 times with a revolver. Dude is what god wanted Adam to look like.
@iluvmym45 жыл бұрын
Dumbelmore Caprio Agee He didn’t eat clean at all A working man as well Heard someone wanted to spy on him to find out what Secret diet he was on while he was on his break He was drinking a Mountain Dew & eating a Twinkie
@lloydkline69464 жыл бұрын
Sergio Olivia invincible
@edwardweiszbeck16495 жыл бұрын
Right on you won me over with your No. 1 pick. I've been a Sergio fan since I first laid eyes on him.
@arthurblackhistoric7 жыл бұрын
That photo of Sergio you asked about was taken in Deland Florida in 1971 by Arthur Jones after Sergio had pumped his arms with the Nautilus bicep and triceps machines. His arms from top to bottom measured bigger than his head! There's a front double bicep photo from that same photo shoot that even today has to be seen to be believed.
@vivid.worker2 жыл бұрын
bro you are so goated. ur commentary is like actually s ofucking good. and i feel like its not corny at all and your voice and delivery is just so good wow
@Bayshuck6 жыл бұрын
Arnold was the better bodybuilder because he won more titles than Sergio?? He was handed them by the Weider's! Congratulations on picking Sergio as having the greatest genetics, that is of course correct. To say Arnold had better aesthetics though, as you do say - that is just silly.
@Sean-if7rp6 жыл бұрын
Imo Arnold did have better genetics, Sergio had a far narrower waist but he never had good enough conditioning to show his physique properly imo, he always looked watery, but bettwr genetics no doubt
@micahclark246 жыл бұрын
the dude didn't diet long enough so he held a good bit of water he said in an interview that instead of drinking water he would drink a gallon of orange juice and 2 gallons of whole milk everyday in between breakfast lunch and dinner he was probably consuming close to 8000 calories a day which was nuts considering he never came close to getting fat
@jamesvincent44725 жыл бұрын
Arnold had ZERO LEGS
@approachshail4 жыл бұрын
Tomn8er, you opened my eyes, i used to think aesthetics and posing were important, but now I know size and conditioning are important.
@PrinceArthas1007 жыл бұрын
Sergio is the goat. His legs were the greatest thing until Platz came along. Even by today's standards he would hold his own apart from the conditioning. 21:50 I think it's 1972 Sergio offseason. Arnold and Joe were both shitting themselves when they saw it.
@bogdanadzic93057 жыл бұрын
Nah missing cuts
@PrinceArthas1007 жыл бұрын
Missing cuts? That's due to conditioning. Still Sergio Oliva was amazing, reminds me of Flex Wheeler with a bigger chest and back.
@nonyobussiness34407 жыл бұрын
Bogdan Adzic can't get cut without modern peds bro. For horrendous diet advice and limited gear, he's the goat.
@patlynch18596 жыл бұрын
The v taper is the biggest thing it’s not even close
@xanderguldie5 жыл бұрын
It's also interesting to note that Ronny began training like a bodybuilder in his 30's. Prior to thay he trained like a powerlifter and also competed. Dude is a beast.
@sloth.48392 жыл бұрын
Ronnie was natural at that time, there was a study done where they tested ronnies genetics and he had a certain protein that would maximise muscle protein synthesis but also make his muscles more resistant to damage, so he had to train them harder but he recovered the next day. The way his insulin worked meant that all his nutrients and carbs went straight to his muscles, he was also completely thermogenic all the time constantly burning fat, so he could never get fat, when he looked bloated in the off season it was usually like 30 pounds of straight water you could see veins still. His body just runs through carbs and is a muscle building machine, one of the most genetically gifted for sure, and definitely natural at the start
@EJtypeONE Жыл бұрын
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@davidblackman75366 жыл бұрын
Great video and fantastically articulated. Well done.
Flex Wheeler is the most genetically gifted BB of all time. In 1993 he was simply flawless. That kneeling twisting back double biceps is the best ever. He had his flaws, but I never saw a physique better than that. Perfect. He should have been a Mr. Olympia at least once.
@Tomn8er Жыл бұрын
That was pretty much the perfect physique
@captainbiceps52097 жыл бұрын
I was expecting Sergio too. This guy was born in the body of a god
@atomtension56455 жыл бұрын
Phil Heath's chest disappears in the most muscular. Arms bigger than his head, sure, but while the chest is striated...where does it go ?
@mazdysoraya61216 жыл бұрын
I like your reviews so much man. Good critics, salt of good humor but keeping it serious and on the track, nice content. Your videos might be little lengthy but worthy . Once, i was watching your videos for few hours, but i had a feeling like i was watching 20 minutes. Nice job, keep it coming. Big salute to all people in the world from Serbia.
@nickhawait6 жыл бұрын
Man I have so much respect for you. The two videos you just made were perfectly on point, your informations accurate and you always kept in objectif the genetic of those bodybuilders. Thank you so much. Sheers from Québec,Canada.
@BrutallyFrankShannon5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more about Sergio. I got to meet him in 1983 back in my writing days when I was covering the Mr. America in Tampa. Even at the age he was then, I'd never seen that much mass on one human frame. I'm a powerlifter, and I've been around some HUGE guys, including having gotten to train with Lou Ferrigno, also in '83, but Sergio was a FREAK.
@101snapper4 жыл бұрын
I met Sergio at the Arnold Classic one year, the nicest man and in my opinion he and Arnold are 1(a) & 1(b) as the greatest bodybuilders of all time!
@jonhollister40735 жыл бұрын
Knowing how to pose is the best way to show off your hard work and genetics!
@prokofievchambers86034 жыл бұрын
You are so good at this analysis. I found you very fair, informative, and entertaining. Loved it!
@MrAvitom7 жыл бұрын
Yes ..absolutely the "Myth" is #1....
@bychen50113 жыл бұрын
“It was only bad that one year” Ohh Tom if only you knew…
@Anglagard16 жыл бұрын
I waded through both videos in the hopes that you would arrive at my personal #1 and you did not disappoint.
@pawelkrowalski37306 жыл бұрын
A body builder who allways was overlooked chris cormier
@keionchase21445 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@HugoMacOs6 жыл бұрын
The old school shape is the best. Sergio really had one of the best lines i've ever seen..
@GatsbyG8R6 жыл бұрын
I like your list. Oliva at the top is a solid choice. For more honorable mentions, how about (a young) Lee Labrada, Vince Taylor, Bob Paris. Even Mike Mentzer looked awesome. Good Job.
@plasmatrader96325 жыл бұрын
Great rundown. I'd personally have Wheeler in 1st place, Coleman, Oliva, Levrone, Jackson, Heath then Ray.
@timtrainage7 жыл бұрын
The last picture is incredible!
@andreroman36165 жыл бұрын
Always wondered what Sergio would look like onstage if he were competing today with all of the advances in nutrition, training, supplementation and gear.
@manasij20117 жыл бұрын
Don't know why people ignore him...but to me Shawn Rhoden is ony of the best genetics and bodybuilder of all time
@luizfe6 жыл бұрын
Our new Olympia
@ademirmaldaner47696 жыл бұрын
Weak triceps and calves, that's why.
@kryptonianstrength84616 жыл бұрын
Marlon Willian Structure wise he is top3 for sure
@dalewilson82616 жыл бұрын
@@ademirmaldaner4769 and back
@dalewilson82616 жыл бұрын
He as a nice shape. But too many weak points and he doesn't have the size or grainy condition. Back is average and chest is flat and zero triceps from the side
@jspank4213 жыл бұрын
Great list! Glad to see Sergio take the top spot!
@PrinceArthas1007 жыл бұрын
predictions: Flex Wheeler Ronnie Coleman Vic Richards Sergio Oliva Ramy let's see lol 4/5 not bad
@maxshaikhh997 жыл бұрын
PrinceArthas100 how u not gonna guess phil Heath
@20puskinas19927 жыл бұрын
Cause he hater
@pimberproductionspimber84807 жыл бұрын
Phil heath has the best genetics.
@PrinceArthas1007 жыл бұрын
I kind of agree, nothing spectacular about him apart from size and his shoulder to waist ratio. Now if he had Phil's muscle bellies on that frame and he didn't win, that would be blatant favoritism
@andresalon15676 жыл бұрын
You will amazed by a progress on big ramy...the seperation the depth oh d muscle....the small waist....etc....he now have all d weapon and dont forget his size is gigantic....but he is not american....so let" see
@bigstef91345 жыл бұрын
Sergio is best of all times and I doubt anybody will beat him in the next 1000 years,i started to train like him from some old interviews i found and its just so amazingly smart to do it his way,u never sore or tired and u train 2 hours a day 6 days a week.
@roberttaylor49995 жыл бұрын
Before I watch this video, I would pick (no particular order) Flex Wheeler, Ronnie Coleman, Victor Richards, Matt Mendenhall and Lee Haney.....honorable mentions go to Phil Heath, Kevin Levrone, Lee Priest, Dexter Jackson, Bob Paris, Alq Gurley (look this guy up as he was a great bodybuilder), and Gary Strydom
@captain01593 жыл бұрын
Damn you couldn't have been more wrong.
@roberttaylor49993 жыл бұрын
@@captain0159 its all subjective...there is no right or wrong..its simply my opinion...the one fact is we have had some amazing talent in this sport...how you line it up is 100% up to that person...as an example, you may be more impressed with mass monsters or someone like Flex Wheeler who had great size but an incredible structure OR you may like the more classic look like Bob Paris, Zane or Reeves.....again, its very subjective
@Commander763 жыл бұрын
Arnold wasn't the better bodybuilder. You need to understand that Sergio Oliva worked a regular job and trained when he could. The Weiders flew Arnold to America, paid him a salary, paid for his posing classes, and installed him as their champion. They wanted to use Arnold to grow the sport. They literally said all of this decades later.
@ScarfaceMich5 жыл бұрын
Ramy's rear lat spread looks like the face of a wild cat.
@beerthug7 жыл бұрын
Another enjoyable video! Thank you.
@perrysmith13187 жыл бұрын
Wow you got it right. Sergio no question. 1972 simply unbelievable
@lloydkline69464 жыл бұрын
Original ,mr invincible
@kaleidascopes5 жыл бұрын
Very well thought out video brother. Thank you for going through all the trouble to put this together.
@FullMetal3727 жыл бұрын
Personally I've never liked body building with all the drug use and what not. But this was very level headed and it's obvious you've done your research. You don't hide the fact they all use drugs and are honest in what their strengths and weaknesses are.
@Tomn8er7 жыл бұрын
thx man glad you enjoyed
@boptah74896 жыл бұрын
my favourite picture of any bodybuilder at any time. Sergio doing the butterfly.
@43vert7 жыл бұрын
I remember Sergio well, definitely gifted, he was great !!!
@TDogthe3rd7 жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@curtisprice98065 жыл бұрын
Sergio's victory pose.....his huge arms (especially his forearms ) look like a praying mantis's "arms" !!!! Genetics' rule for sure !!!
@Wisurriv4 жыл бұрын
Ok... I´m an old time bodybuilder/weightlifter and I just loved you putting Sergio on the top. If I´m not mistaken he was the first to have his arms larger than his head and his overall mass was just insane with no weak points (in my opinion). Also loved the pic of him, Arnold and Nubret which I´ve never seen before, that was just beautiful. Talking about genetic monsters the Icelandic Jon Pall Sigmarsson was a freak of nature. You should look at his pictures winning the Icelandic weightlifting championship to taking the title of Icelands best bodybuilder just a month or so later. That was just freakish. He also won the world´s strongest man few times. Anyway... He wouldn´t have placed on this list because he never competed in big bodybuilding tournaments but if you don´t know him already you might wan´t to check him out. I don´t often watch bodybuilding channels on KZbin but I have watched a few through the years. This one is hands down THE BEST I´ve ever seen. Been glued to your videos for 90 minutes now. Thanks.
@JohnnyCage3336 жыл бұрын
How in the world didn't Flex Wheeler win the Mr. Olympia. Crazy.
@xivwords54486 жыл бұрын
Fernando Angelone he was too gifted it didn’t look real
@JohnnyCage3336 жыл бұрын
XIV Words very gifted!👍God bless him.
@micahclark246 жыл бұрын
almost died multiple times cause of a hereditary kidney disease spent years in a hospitable drugged out of his mind to the point where he couldn't communicate and forgot family members faces and went bankrupt it's a very very sad story he's somewhat better now though which is great
@brabusmathew53886 жыл бұрын
Politics
@sagittariusa65287 жыл бұрын
Another great video !!!
@davidunoi70997 жыл бұрын
That victory pose was lights out man!
@BatmanBoss6 жыл бұрын
I like your number one pick. Great video
@TheShady3805 жыл бұрын
Should have had Tom Platz somewhere on this list
@captainzoltan77375 жыл бұрын
TheShady380 he was extremely genetically gifted in the leg department but his upper body was kind of meh .
@edwardgavrilov62557 жыл бұрын
Awesome video bro!
@BeeKapone5 жыл бұрын
Sergio = Sugar Ray Robinson = Oscar Robinson! #therealGOATs
@JIntoThaDon5 жыл бұрын
Yes Sergio’s victory pose is will always be second to none it’s just hard to deny
@xmoomy7 жыл бұрын
I agree. Sergio had the best genetics ever.
@contrnsmagnificndjoobngtaint6 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this series. You have good banter
@heroki807 жыл бұрын
I can't disagree with the list order. it's subjective as you always said. personally I prefer Kevin. but the others are super gifted too. all legends. Sergio Olivia arms look kinda little long to his physique ratio. But he is super gifted legend.
@ricardorivera65437 жыл бұрын
Abbas Ahmed that's the crazy thing. You never see anyone with long arms and 20+ inches
@peterl.15747 жыл бұрын
And that is what made him look incredible. Those long and huge arms. Big guys with short arms look fugly and weird.
@juanzilla64364 жыл бұрын
About half of the people who watched part 1 thought "eh I've seen enough for today"