Top 10 Street Fighter Characters who Fell Off

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@PrincessMatrix
@PrincessMatrix 2 ай бұрын
The biggest crime was removing Sean's dunk after landing a DP.
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 2 ай бұрын
And then giving it to SF6 Luke as an EX Rising Uppercut smh
@jblue88hoodgamer54
@jblue88hoodgamer54 2 ай бұрын
And for some reason they gave it to Luke in SF6
@ksf3455
@ksf3455 2 ай бұрын
Luke is what Sean was supposed to be minus the knuckle fireball.
@ggguNeck
@ggguNeck 2 ай бұрын
The crime was not letting Sean be a serious character and replacing him with Luke 😑
@casbalt7763
@casbalt7763 Ай бұрын
@@ggguNeck Also giving us his hot sister. oh wait you said crime. I do hope Laura comes back though.
@patrickoconnell9387
@patrickoconnell9387 2 ай бұрын
Necro fell off so hard they forgot to add him to any of the newer games
@kaiserbts8007
@kaiserbts8007 2 ай бұрын
We need to talk about that dive kick speed in new generation…
@zackswitch9656
@zackswitch9656 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately cause hes so cool
@TheSkullDragger
@TheSkullDragger 2 ай бұрын
They added him in SFV in the Halloween map
@DaytaProductions
@DaytaProductions 2 ай бұрын
As a necro main, it's not enough 😢
@jblue88hoodgamer54
@jblue88hoodgamer54 2 ай бұрын
That also includes Sean and Remy
@TheJesusJuice
@TheJesusJuice 2 ай бұрын
Number 1: Me
@bryansnaylor
@bryansnaylor 2 ай бұрын
No spoilers wtf omg bbq
@cptnfox2383
@cptnfox2383 2 ай бұрын
My life in a nutshell without the being "top tier" part.
@jblue88hoodgamer54
@jblue88hoodgamer54 2 ай бұрын
😂
@Viewtiful_Gamer
@Viewtiful_Gamer 2 ай бұрын
*We Await your return..Warrior.*
@leedunkin3338
@leedunkin3338 2 ай бұрын
Bro have faith there gon be a patch 4 u
@StrawHatPuffy
@StrawHatPuffy 2 ай бұрын
You did Vega so dirty in the thumbnail
@ChicaneryBear
@ChicaneryBear 2 ай бұрын
I only see Balrog?
@L1qq0
@L1qq0 2 ай бұрын
​@@ChicaneryBear"🤓"
@sussybaka8560
@sussybaka8560 2 ай бұрын
@@ChicaneryBear”🤓”
@ChildOfChrist89
@ChildOfChrist89 2 ай бұрын
@@ChicaneryBearpretending not to understand something is cringe, attention seeking behavior. Work on that.
@SegaAidan
@SegaAidan 2 ай бұрын
@@ChicaneryBear "🤓"
@geoffreytasker2097
@geoffreytasker2097 2 ай бұрын
What they did to Sean was criminal
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын
Making Sean a joke character so that he would be the weighted clothing of fighters is one of the worst decisions that I have ever seen in regards to character balancing.
@geoffreytasker2097
@geoffreytasker2097 2 ай бұрын
@glacierwolf2155 to top it off they gave his move set to Luke and made them good now in Canon Sean learned from Luke. It's so messed up lol
@marcorodriguez8792
@marcorodriguez8792 2 ай бұрын
Yes but Sean as a joke character makes sense so he should be like Dan
@geoffreytasker2097
@geoffreytasker2097 2 ай бұрын
@marcorodriguez8792 that's the point, he wasn't a joke character. they made him a joke. He was just a shoto without a normal fireball before they decided to destroy him
@Peachrocks5
@Peachrocks5 2 ай бұрын
Yeah because he took away from precious Ryu and Kens limelight. Can’t have that now. Ryu and Ken weren’t even going to be in sf3 but this was changed very late. That’s why Sean is good in new gen and second impact and had his identity changed in third strike. I still dislike Ryu a fair bit because of what he indirectly did to Sean.
@derrickstomberg2709
@derrickstomberg2709 2 ай бұрын
One more thing about Sagat - if his tiger uppercut traded vs a jump in, he would get the full combo into step kick into ultra for NO METER.
@kinsmanne98
@kinsmanne98 2 ай бұрын
So you’re telling me that 2I Sean builds a lot of meter with 4HP, gets a million ways to hit confirm into one of the best supers in the game that goes nearly full-screen and beats fireballs, and had two bars of said super just cause? I know why Sean sucks so much in 3S. Chun Li stole his soul.
@ShinxBOOM247
@ShinxBOOM247 2 ай бұрын
Also his main combo does a shit ton of stun due to heavy tornado being easily comboed into and his frame data was generally on par with the other shotos rather than being the worst of Ryu and Ken's normals
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 13 күн бұрын
Chun-Li stole his soul, Luke stole his moveset, and Zangief stole his sister. Zangief collects ladies like Sean collects L's.
@horribleoscar9443
@horribleoscar9443 2 ай бұрын
SF4 Vega may be SF4 Vega but his joyful cackle when he lands super or ultra will always be a core memory of the game for me.
@genejas
@genejas 2 ай бұрын
worth noting that vega was top tier in one other game: CVS2
@jacksample3978
@jacksample3978 2 ай бұрын
Also, in Alpha 3, arguably top 5 with his V-ism. SF EX2 was the first time he wasn't good.
@carlospineda6826
@carlospineda6826 2 ай бұрын
2025, Vega is making a come back.
@TheSenSx
@TheSenSx 2 ай бұрын
Vega was good in SFxTekken
@neah2k11
@neah2k11 Сағат бұрын
​@@jacksample3978 I don't think there are any truly bad characters in EX2
@subterraneanretrogames556
@subterraneanretrogames556 2 ай бұрын
Capcom has been dropping the ball with Vega. I mean, he’s like the 3rd best ‘guy-with-a-claw’ in history, behind Wolverine and Freddy Krueger. Utilize him!
@zackswitch9656
@zackswitch9656 2 ай бұрын
Better than bison for sure
@1000Tomatoes
@1000Tomatoes 2 ай бұрын
More like they dropped the claw
@Adderflail
@Adderflail 2 ай бұрын
At least there's CVS2
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 2 ай бұрын
Iirc, both those other guys are historically terrible in games too. I wonder if there is a link.
@MegafanX123
@MegafanX123 2 ай бұрын
Tao Kaka:
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the Dee Jay entry, I would love for a video covering characters that were nerfed because they played too much like their previous incarnation in a game with newer systems.
@MantisCrawl
@MantisCrawl 2 ай бұрын
They did Vega dirty in SFV. Clawless stance? wtf capcom Bring my boy back!!!
@GoldGuard
@GoldGuard 2 ай бұрын
And they had the nerve to make the claw permanently breakable in that game and also make him the only character whose super isn't invincible on startup. And took away his flip kick, nerfing him even though he was already trash in SF4 Someone on the balancing team must've REALLY hated Vega
@juvonfrancis940
@juvonfrancis940 2 ай бұрын
“But his super is projectile invulnerable” -throws up when my ca trades with air-
@xemman18
@xemman18 2 ай бұрын
Lol, god, I hated sf5. Shit made me sick.
@platinumconquest2365
@platinumconquest2365 2 ай бұрын
I really liked the new direction in theory. The issue is the execution. Vega was an absolute mess in SFV. It's crazy how they went out of their way to completely overhaul his moveset while somehow feeling like they never quite had a coherent vision for him. Still fucking baffled that they made the claw permanently breakable. How was that never changed by the end of the game's life? It was always the most requested change by the community. I can't even think of a justification for that decision. Despite that though, I personally feel that making him a command stance character made him more interesting than in previous games. For all his issues, he's still the most fun incarnation of the character for me. I'm hoping Capcom takes SFV Vega's direction but overhauls it to be more well thought out.
@GoldGuard
@GoldGuard 2 ай бұрын
@@platinumconquest2365 Tbh I don't think Vega needs much to be good. They really just need to stop screwing him over with handicap mechanics (losing claw and mask). And maybe also give him his flip kick back and a cancelable non-claw poke (such as medium kick) for the sake of combo variety and to be able to combo in neutral. I really like the stance shift direction they went in SFV but it seems like they were too paranoid about balancing him. Standing medium kick wasn't even cancelable until the final patch. And when they finally gave it to him, he was just decent/mid-tier at best. Vega is and has always been a character very good at controlling neutral on the ground with his claw range but his overall damage output is below average and his lack of ways to escape pressure make the issue worse even without the handicap mechanics. Bison has similar issues with escaping pressure but he has overwhelming offense and high damage to make up for it on top of having solid neutral. Unfortunately Vega doesn't have those privileges but still has Bison's same weaknesses plus more.
@theSkarekro
@theSkarekro 2 ай бұрын
Lmao that baby fork holding vega
@karsa31
@karsa31 2 ай бұрын
30:39 NO SPOILERS!!! Meanwhile thumbnail of the video:
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 2 ай бұрын
Alternate Thumbnail idea, using Sean’s standing Heavy Punches between the games.
@blueyokaigaming
@blueyokaigaming 2 ай бұрын
Got a Hitbox and started training on it by playing some SF Third Strike because of your channel! Was super fun.
@Hiswf_
@Hiswf_ 2 ай бұрын
Interesting how Dee Jay is a Character with one of the biggest Fell offs but also one of the biggest glow ups
@TelvanniWizardMoneyGang
@TelvanniWizardMoneyGang 2 ай бұрын
I love that stage with captain commando, so many obscure titles being shouted out like Forgotten Worlds for the Genesis. Also, booba.
@marcorodriguez8792
@marcorodriguez8792 2 ай бұрын
Booba indeed 👌
@jaydub7386
@jaydub7386 Ай бұрын
Forgotten Worlds. What a classic.
@cbd075
@cbd075 2 ай бұрын
Major shoutout to that Big Yellow video on Abigail, it goes into incredible detail on the absurdity of Season 3 Abigail and the nerfs he then got afterwards
@jkunimage4187
@jkunimage4187 2 ай бұрын
I think the problem with Dee Jay was that he was a charge character in a game that hated charge characters. Almost all charge characters in sf4 were either ok or just really bad. Some of the worst characters besides Dan in this game were charge characters. Omega sf4 fixed this by having deejay be a motion character. This fixed almost most of his issues.
@jays.6843
@jays.6843 2 ай бұрын
I love how everyone hates Abigail so much that as soon as he wasn't busted, everyone dropped him like a hot rock. He barely even has fans. Nobody was willing to work with a weaker moveset for the love of the character because everyone hates him.
@andersonemery4454
@andersonemery4454 2 ай бұрын
he's SO boring but also manages to be annoying as fuck
@Rincewindus
@Rincewindus 2 ай бұрын
He's the quintessential example of Capcom trying to make fetch happen, as with SF5 Luke and SF6 Bison.
@GGetterRay
@GGetterRay 2 ай бұрын
His reveal trailer had more dislikes than likes and was revealed at the same event as Geese in Tekken 7, his fate was sealed from the start.
@wusstunes
@wusstunes 2 ай бұрын
I like her. She’s like a weird dog motorcycle human hybrid.
@andersonemery4454
@andersonemery4454 2 ай бұрын
@@wusstunes are we talking about the same abigail
@kaiserbts8007
@kaiserbts8007 2 ай бұрын
Personally I have never seen anyone talk about Vega in SFV, it feels like he barely exists, it might be because of how different he is, his characterisation in the story mode or something else I’m not aware of
@zkosmith1662
@zkosmith1662 2 ай бұрын
You should do a video where you go over characters who didn't fall off but got a big glow up to where they're not the same character as with Ed and T. Hawk and Seth and JP. That would be cool
@hxcnoel
@hxcnoel 2 ай бұрын
Just based on the title of the video, I was hoping my boy Fei Long might get mentioned, since we haven't seen him in quite some time. It seems like Capcom is either scared of putting rekkas into newer games, or there's some other reason Fei Long isn't being included. I would think maybe the Bruce Lee estate could be an issue, but I haven't heard of them having a problem with any of the previous iterations of Fei Long, so I'm not sure why he hasn't made an appearance since SFIV
@TeemoQuinton
@TeemoQuinton 2 ай бұрын
Capcom hates fun, why they also have ignored C Viper.
@emperormegaman3856
@emperormegaman3856 2 ай бұрын
There's no legal issue based on his appearance if that is what you were wondering about. The reason he hasn't been in SFV is likely just the same Dudley, Makoto, Viper weren't. Not everyone makes it into every game and SF in particular have a lot of potential picks so of course some characters are going to skip an entrie. Fei Long has only been absent since V, some characters have not returned since 3rd strike. All we can do is hope he returns for SF6. (personally still hoping for Makoto)
@kado-2323
@kado-2323 2 ай бұрын
35:13 While I do appreciate the apology, it is bold of you to assume I moved on from SSF2T. How am I supposed to enjoy Claw if he isn’t even a charge character anymore, has a stance where he is missing his long ranged poking normals, is not shirtless, and is forced to spend meter in order to perform an already stage specific move that is banned in tournaments despite it being unable to save Vega from low mid-tier hell anyways?
@gregorymirabella1423
@gregorymirabella1423 20 күн бұрын
vega is likely coming to sf6, he got teased in world tour mode and even has a voice actor.
@SuperRy21.
@SuperRy21. Ай бұрын
5:11 Hey wasnt one of his win quotes “Dont be like Dan” Ironic
@TheDestroyerComics
@TheDestroyerComics 2 ай бұрын
i really hope sean just gets completely remixed and comes back in sf6 as some kind of crazy basketball freestyle shoto with all kinds of new moves and sauce
@ReikuYin
@ReikuYin 2 ай бұрын
So Lucky Kruber?
@zaneseibert
@zaneseibert 2 ай бұрын
I want him to be like a shoto/grappler hybrid leaning more towards grappler.
@KeiraLunar
@KeiraLunar Ай бұрын
in my mind a chracter that fell off is Juri compaired to her introduction in SF4 where she had projectiles that covered a fair amount of the screen which was great for poking zoners then from then on in SF 5 and 6 she lost all that projetile range and was replaced with a faster agressive combo game but she has no range at all making it a nightmare to play against zoners granted i could just be bad im only a casual not a pro
@iwazbizywinning6261
@iwazbizywinning6261 2 ай бұрын
That was by far the worst depiction of how good Vega actually is in SFIV and honestly, thank you for not knowing the character very well in IV
@joelevy3042
@joelevy3042 2 ай бұрын
Furthermore, they replaced Sean with Luke(there's a whole video on it; a lot of Luke's moves are straight rips). Add in how they've historically done Dee Jay, and now Kim, and it makes me wanna get the NAACP on the phone. 🤣🤣🤣 I guess there's Dudley, Boxer, and Elena though....😅
@TheSeventhChild
@TheSeventhChild 2 ай бұрын
12:31 Ryused
@placidonetodeassisvieira5358
@placidonetodeassisvieira5358 Ай бұрын
Capcom nerfed Sean out of pure spite and you can't convice me otherwise
@SpringDryad
@SpringDryad 2 ай бұрын
On Dan, I loved using him in Alpha 3 because you could use his L Air Dankyaku to switch up your jump arc and crossup your opponent and combo in to stuff. Very glad they buffed him after how bad he was in Alpha 2 lol
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u 2 ай бұрын
Also his Vism combos are actually really good. Dan is so fun in SFA3 even if he's still kinda bad (but functional)
@Giran_0
@Giran_0 2 ай бұрын
Geki fell so hard they were never seen again
@Flying_V
@Flying_V 2 ай бұрын
For Dee Jay in SF 4, you could cancel his super into U1 which was the only real reason you would combo into U1. You only used U1 for very few matchups like T Hawk, Blanka, and Honda Ultra 2 also had one of the most difficult ways to combo into it possible. you did EX Machine Gun Upper and then dash and did it. In SSF4, it was 8 consecutive just frames to hit until AE2012 when they cut 2 frames from his forward dash to make the combo realistic to do.
@sofiaciel7599
@sofiaciel7599 2 ай бұрын
Vega's been paying for basically a decade of being good-to-broken in Capcom's games by being anywhere from below-average to "worse than Dan"
@luvalon6721
@luvalon6721 2 ай бұрын
Btw, small tip for SF5; you can actually play the versions of characters present in old seasons by going to combo trials! They didn't want to potentially ruin trials with changes to frame data so if you select them you're effectively playing the character as they were when the trial was released
@ImranAhmad-s9d
@ImranAhmad-s9d 2 ай бұрын
Hey Jim I don’t know if it’s me but something’s been bothering me about Street fighter 6 something’s missing and after wondering about it I thought that street fighter 6 is missing a wisdom fighter those dudes who have grey hair are old the master types to give it depth someone of the likes of Gen or Fei Long or even Oro
@MarcelyWelly
@MarcelyWelly 2 ай бұрын
I still feel a type of way they did Sean in 3s lmfao
@ryan_fsk
@ryan_fsk Ай бұрын
Akuma went from sf2 boss to trash in mvc2
@Gelwain
@Gelwain 2 ай бұрын
SF4 Dee Jay was a damned crime. They did him so dirty I was legit wondering if it was racism. Intentionally making someone that shitty in a game where you admit that you made Yun hilariously OP -ON PURPOSE- was just criminal.
@phantomspaceman
@phantomspaceman 2 ай бұрын
They even admitted in the patch notes that DeeJay sucked and they couldn't fix him.
@FAMc81
@FAMc81 2 ай бұрын
SF4 DeeJay (not including the Omega version) was more of a continuation of the SFA3 DeeJay, who was ridiculously inferior to SSF2T DeeJay. SF6 DeeJay is the best of all worlds (from SSF2T to Omega USF4) plus a bunch of new tools added. Smart move by Capcom.
@bawitback
@bawitback 2 ай бұрын
I stuck with vega (claw) with all the versions of IV. the red focus SA2 combos helped him later on.
@jkatarn
@jkatarn 2 ай бұрын
lmao “no spoilers” in the timeline but I literally came in because of the thumbnail
@adwark7724
@adwark7724 2 ай бұрын
Oh right, these do remind me of some videos of Bafael that touch upon deeper specific of extreme cases, on 2I/3S Sean, on SF4 DeeJay, Vanilla SF4 Sagat and Vanilla SF4 Vega. And then there's also deeeeep dive of Big Yellow on Abigail. These videos can be great extension of topic if someone's interested in more detailed overview of how they were the way they were in those.
@mrpinguimninja
@mrpinguimninja 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, no ammount of nerf and bottom tier hell that Luke gets will be enough to compensate for how miserable the end of sfv was. I even stopped watching
@shreyasb7598
@shreyasb7598 2 ай бұрын
Ayo what Rashid doing at the start 😂
@Longlostpuss
@Longlostpuss 2 ай бұрын
You missed one thing on the SF2 CE Bison in that his Psycho Crusher gives you a free side switch throw on block that's inescapable too if they're close to the corner. He literally goes right through you and can throw you from behind because he's insanely plus afterwards, I used to rinse that all the time.
@JeffKGaming
@JeffKGaming 2 ай бұрын
I remember Dee Jay getting nerfed in Ultra but for most of SF4's life, i remember him being a challenging character to play against
@omegadragon9524
@omegadragon9524 2 ай бұрын
Tbf in the tier lists I see, every game that had all the Super SF new challengers always had Dee Jay as the highest placing one
@JeffKGaming
@JeffKGaming 2 ай бұрын
@@omegadragon9524 Besides Cammy, you're 100 percent right. Fei Long had his time to shine in AE but that was it. Dee Jay never seemed super weak to me, but he wasn't ever the best character in the game.
@omegadragon9524
@omegadragon9524 2 ай бұрын
@@JeffKGaming Cammy was only top tier or at least good when Fei, Dee Jay and Hawk aren't in a game. other than that she's utter shit except SF 6. But yeah Fei literally could've been such a broken character with the new mechanics.
@Ash-CMBO
@Ash-CMBO 2 ай бұрын
I love your channel!
@boisvert45
@boisvert45 2 ай бұрын
Sean could fill all 10 spots
@LoDart210
@LoDart210 2 ай бұрын
Always wonder why the fighting game approach go balance is either ridiculously overtuned to punished mercilessly into impotency. I’ve heard its to shake up character selection to make each season feel more fresh but I really think a well balanced cast of likeable characters would do better and be better received. Abigail is absolutely reviled by everyone and he highlights this perfectly. He was revealed at EVO to great scorn, captured no one’s imagination, and was a competitive menace. Then when people started playing him and actually sticking to him, they turned him into gutter trash so of course he’ll get dropped, and we may never see him again. That’s not a problem, but thats resources down the drain, and a character and playstyle that probably will never return. Why do that when you can make an awesome memorable character that can be kept around for time to come?
@senormarston
@senormarston 2 ай бұрын
Vega deserves to be in SF6 just like Lei Wulong deserves to be in Tekken 8
@Noxso1
@Noxso1 2 ай бұрын
I think in the combotrials you can access older versions of characters in sfv
@GinkgoPete
@GinkgoPete 2 ай бұрын
What they did to Vega in Vanilla SF4 felt insanely personal. "This Yodeling Bitch wont 50/50 anyone anymore" What they did to Sean was so stupid that they admitted how dumb it was lol.
@FennTheFool
@FennTheFool 2 ай бұрын
SF4 Deejay did have a 1-bar mid-screen juggle to U2. It was executionally difficult and he wasn't good even with it, but still.
@User-pu3lc
@User-pu3lc 2 ай бұрын
So so so sad Vega and Sagat aren’t in SF6
@lolakyle8
@lolakyle8 2 ай бұрын
Manon feels like Vega SFV in some terms: Maskless Vega SFV can do command grab, Manon can, with better damage as her Medals goes up They both got good-ish range normals Vega has slide, Manon has qcb. LK Vega has roll, Manon has qcb. MK Vega has df. MK, Manon has qcb. HK V-SKill 1 Vega is somewhat similar to Manon qcf. P Vega has Scarlett Terror, Manon has qcf. K I think if Manon has rose or something that can be thrown like V-Trigger 1 Vega and she also can somehow 'fly', I think she eventually will become Vega lol
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u 2 ай бұрын
You forgot they're both beautiful
@bbbbKeJodddd
@bbbbKeJodddd 14 күн бұрын
Its kinda telling that the last game Vega was good in was CVS2, and his ending was acknowledging he reached his peak and killing himself. "Perhaps I am a ghost?" Indeed.
@goranisacson2502
@goranisacson2502 2 ай бұрын
As someone who's never really played SF3 except a casual match or two... wow, I think I get why Sean had fans now that I've seen 2nd Impact-Sean, and I get why they're all MEGA-bitter. That was just... unkind. Unkind and upsetting, is what it is.
@phantomspaceman
@phantomspaceman 2 ай бұрын
"I purposely trained Sean wrong. As a joke." - Ken Masters, 1999
@Steelosick
@Steelosick 2 ай бұрын
Vega is the most criminal. Sean is defensively right behind him. This is as a SFIV vanilla Sagat player. Yes that game got me back into fighting games after being done after Soul Calibur on the DC and the arcades dying and girls trumping games.
@GrahamRussellMarinay
@GrahamRussellMarinay 2 ай бұрын
you forgot about sean dp in 2nd impact its so good it has this 2nd hit that knockdown the opponent and give him good oki and then third strike change it to a worse dp that only launch and is so slow
@iamfiefo
@iamfiefo 2 ай бұрын
I used to main Birdie and Dan in Alpha 2. Dan was fun because people were scared of his Super Taunt because they didn't know what it was!
@jooper2861
@jooper2861 2 ай бұрын
Vega being mid-tier or so in SFV is propaganda especially by the end. He definitely made a place for himself in the meta in the last season with his buffs and how neutral heavy the game became. Punk really showed how good the character was (also metro, boltstrike) and yeah I know Punk could use any character and win but the fact that he used Vega so much by the end gotta mean he was worth something
@kumaSOevl
@kumaSOevl 2 ай бұрын
I had a lot of fun with claw by the last season. Just wished he could pick up his claw again
@crutun
@crutun 2 ай бұрын
new peak video just dropped thanks JM
@VideoGameTypeBeat
@VideoGameTypeBeat 2 ай бұрын
Sean need that glo up! Bring him back Capcom!!!!!
@SMGxEnWHYc46
@SMGxEnWHYc46 2 ай бұрын
Vega was absolutely amazing in USF4, he was the definition of high risk high reward. But let's not forget that USF4 had a ton of plinking 1 frame combos
@Nine_baller
@Nine_baller 2 ай бұрын
Akuma bcz he can't jump back and shoot a fire ball
@jakeinator2005
@jakeinator2005 2 ай бұрын
Cody was a character who fell off when he was added to Street Fighter: they literally thought to make the star of Final Fight a convicted felon upon immediately adding him to the Street Fighter series
@OpoumConsumer
@OpoumConsumer 2 ай бұрын
I like to think of it as a chapter of his story for the sake of his character development. But then in SFV he returns to his former self
@MrSwitchup01
@MrSwitchup01 2 ай бұрын
Been a vega main for god knows how long and I will continue to wait and main him in sf6, they need to restore my boy to his old glory
@fRikimaru1974
@fRikimaru1974 2 ай бұрын
Bro, Sean was extremely broken and instead of nerfing him a little they just destroyed him 😝😝
@Astigos
@Astigos 2 ай бұрын
Sean's best super in third strike is sa1 the basketball hadouken because at least it gives him a good combo ender and has 3 stocks.
@shikarbabulall3897
@shikarbabulall3897 2 ай бұрын
The Street Fighter 1 characters are coming back Gheki and Mike will be filling on for Vega and Baltog😂
@Kusanagikaiser999
@Kusanagikaiser999 2 ай бұрын
24:05 you actually COULD.....if you go to trials and try the early trials of Akuma, the version you play there is the version that match with the period update as the trials where updating adding NEW trials with the current patch you can use Akuma from season 2 if you go to his early trials.
@Luis-Hernandez.1989
@Luis-Hernandez.1989 2 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention Sagat standing lk that gave him great space control when cancelling to low tiger shot. That was nerfed by making it a two hit move.
@glawrk2861
@glawrk2861 2 ай бұрын
I hope Elena doesn't end up on this list
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 2 ай бұрын
They massacred my boy Sean badly in 3rd Strike, Alpha 1 Dan always did feel stronger than the later versions of Dan
@VDViktor
@VDViktor 2 ай бұрын
Is 3rd strike only playable on xbox?
@spman2099
@spman2099 2 ай бұрын
There are some players making Alpha 3 Dan look pretty damn strong in the modern era. He most certainly isn't top tier or anything, but I think he is probably a lot closer to mid-tier than we thought back in the day.
@pouliotwilliam1
@pouliotwilliam1 2 ай бұрын
I Really like your don't get grab Pint. Hahaha so funny. Maybe I'll get one for Christmas
@PlanetJohnny
@PlanetJohnny 2 ай бұрын
Vega was dogwater in Vanilla SF4, but he slowly got better over the course of the updates, and by the end of it, he was solidly mid-tier. Vega was quite a bit worse in SF5 than he was in USF4. Capcom's been doing the claw man a bit too dirty since the switch to 3D.
@joztron
@joztron 2 ай бұрын
there is no way you are doing my vega dirty like that.
@goldflowergamer3139
@goldflowergamer3139 2 ай бұрын
Question because I’m not familiar with edition select in USF4: Are players only allowed to use the USF4 version of a character, or are people actually allowed to pick the vanilla Sagat?
@jmcrofts
@jmcrofts 2 ай бұрын
there are some gimmick tournaments that allow edition select, but 99% of tournaments are ultra only
@goldflowergamer3139
@goldflowergamer3139 2 ай бұрын
@ I figured, considering how broken Sagat was in vanilla, people probably don’t want him running around again haha. Kinda cool that there are some gimmick tournaments with him though.
@DetectiveClem
@DetectiveClem 2 ай бұрын
@JMCrofts loving these videos with explainations, great stuff man! Super helpful for this FGC boomer that isn't able to play video games anymore, keep up the great work man!
@zappelins8942
@zappelins8942 2 ай бұрын
You can actually play older versions of characters in sf5 by going into the combo trails and selecting a combo trail from an older season.
@DemitriosRausus
@DemitriosRausus 2 ай бұрын
Xsim Chunli in Alpha 3 is pretty good, especially when the opponent dares to block her spinning bird kick.
@fRikimaru1974
@fRikimaru1974 2 ай бұрын
SFV Vega was kinda cool. I think that with a little fast walkspeed he would have been awesome. I wish him to return in SF6. Well, and Sagat an Balrog too, that would be quite cool.
@BungleTech
@BungleTech 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't Vega also top tier in Alpha and Capcom vs SNK?
@absoul112
@absoul112 2 ай бұрын
I personally wish what happened to Sean, happened in reverse. By that I mean he's at his worst in New generation, gets better in 2nd Impact, and is top tier in 3rd Strike. I think him improving between games is a neat way to show the results of his training.
@JustSomeGuy489
@JustSomeGuy489 Ай бұрын
I choose to believe in Guilewinquote's theory that Claw has been low teir for a while now because he's still paying for his super turbo crimes.
@DualThiessen
@DualThiessen 2 ай бұрын
For DeeJay in sf4. His force stand move whiffed on crouching opponents iirc
@WhyTrashEarth
@WhyTrashEarth 2 ай бұрын
I was so sad Vega never made it to SF6
@LordBorbos
@LordBorbos 2 ай бұрын
Vanilla Sagat could confirm into ultra 1 from an ex dp like anywhere on the screen lollll: 1 meter, no fadc
@killercore007
@killercore007 2 ай бұрын
1:43 So basically sf6 cammy lv 3, though that one isn't quite so instant.
@joeybeltran740
@joeybeltran740 2 ай бұрын
God I miss Vega so much 😞
@travisteatime
@travisteatime 2 ай бұрын
Kinda shocked Gief isn't here considering how much SFV massacred him after SFIV (which... okay that's fair he did deserve that), though I guess SFIV Gief is also overdiscussed by now.
@charlieharrington9555
@charlieharrington9555 2 ай бұрын
At least he’s good in SF6 again
@harryf9885
@harryf9885 2 ай бұрын
27:19 well at the end of 5 Luke was the latest DLC, now fundamentally he’s just another base roster bozo, even if he enjoys slightly more privilege due to his main character status that will never be match the privilege afforded by making Capcom money lol. Meanwhile Akuma is recent DLC, and a very popular one at that.
@beam5655
@beam5655 2 ай бұрын
21:57 this is a misconception. Rufus was the most successful tournament character in vanilla, and Sagat didn't have many major wins. Bonchan actually had more success after Sagat was nerfed from vanilla.
@darkreaverhasham
@darkreaverhasham 6 күн бұрын
Sagat was strong but yeah, he didn't win many majors. Just a lot of top 8s.
@Luis-Hernandez.1989
@Luis-Hernandez.1989 2 ай бұрын
I remember SFIV DeeJay could cause a crumple with EX sobat kick in one the preview builds. I wonder how he would've ended if they left it alone...
@clarencegutsy7309
@clarencegutsy7309 2 ай бұрын
V-Ism Vega and CVS2 Vega was still either very high tier or top tier. Then SF4 came and murdered the character. Thanks Killian.
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