Top 10 Urban Myths and Misconceptions in Motorsport

[@DuffyBlanco]

Regarding the oldest track claim, the Milwaukee Mile has a strong claim, having its first auto race in 1903.

[@andrea1890]

In Italy we use to say Eau rouge-raidillon so i already knew that the real eau rouge is just the left corner. I love your video, i wish you a life with more pizza and pasta

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Well, I frequentely eat pasta. Maybe this year a little more as I hope to make a Circuit Tour in Italy in the summer.

[@andrea1890]

@@Circuitsofthepast i will watch that video with more passion

[@strixxcr]

Great Video! Hope to see another of this.

[@Circuitsofthepast]

A top 20? ;)

[@YuriBruschi]

Bravo, bellissimo video!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Did you saw yourself at the banking near the chicane of the straight?

[@YuriBruschi]

@@Circuitsofthepast yes, i open video later, so i click the red lane below, and watch the start video

[@Denes2005]

That’s radillon actually!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

There are still people who think it's funny to be the 173549762398th to repeat "That’s Raidillon actually"...

[@Cynderfan35]

@@Circuitsofthepast i got tired of said meme after a while. to me name of a corner doesn't much matter because still its one of my favorites in racing games to try and take flat out in F1 car, which was sometimes way to end your practice session early when lost it and spun into tire wall.

[@gillsdenam559]

Yay

[@Cynderfan35]

the fact that most of old hockenheimring track hasn't been covered by tree's or even plants, just shows not even nature wants to reclaim fully what was lost. depsite fact how long its had time.

[@crunchyfrog555]

Maybe the spirit of Jimmy Clark himself is chasing the trees away?

[@willem3456]

secretly german forrests love slipstream trains and battles so it doesn't want to reclaim it.

[@mikepowers572]

weirdly my brain still thinks of the track in the old layout due to playing it in computer games in the 90's lol.

[@eilord]

Talking about the "Nuremburgring" - another thing these places hav in commen are the twin rock festivals Rock am Ring and Rock im Park. A couple of years ago, arriving at Rock am Ring (Nürburgring) I met 2 scottish guys with who I went to the wristband counter. Turned out, they had bought tickets for Rock im Park in Nuremberg...the poor boys had to pack their tents, and get the next train to Nuremberg to see at least the remaining concerts there!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

That's a funny story. Thanks for sharing it!

[@aussieausdeutschland4245]

Wow! The oldest purpose built track is here in Australia! Well, Waddayano!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Actually it was, because they demolished the complete track and built houses on the site.

[@aussieausdeutschland4245]

@@Circuitsofthepast yes unfortunately quite a few great tracks have disappeared under housing estates here in Australia.

[@Marc180sx]

We have a few cool ones hear like aspendale, fishermens bend aerodome and Altona road circuit, unfortunately all lost in time but all here in Melbourne!

[@rocksteady2263]

@@aussieausdeutschland4245 Oulton Park being the latest I can think of.

[@davidfabish-wood5278]

@@rocksteady2263 Oran Park, Oulton Park is in the UK and going strong

[@YuriBruschi]

Molto interessante!

[@stevie-ray2020]

While Aspendale here in Oz may have been the first purpose-built track for cars, it was only crushed-cement gravel with little banking on the curves of the pear-shaped track, but after only two races in 1906 (Jan & Nov), it wasn't used again until it was converted to a properly banked-track in 1923. So while Aspendale was the world's first 'commercial' race-track, Brooklands was the first banked track constructed not just for racing, but also for the testing of vehicles from Britain's growing car manufacturing-industry!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Thanks for the aditional information.

[@jefferyfinguy1957]

You can have a claim in America for oldest track as The Milwaukee Mile was the first to hold an auto race in 1903. It's funny and weird to find these things.

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Interesting point. It was actually a dirt track in 1903, but a race track is a race track. I remember I saw IndyCar races there in the 1990's. It was always one week after the Indy 500. During the races the Dutch reporter told it was original a horse race track.

[@vladimirzimonja8103]

As Herman Tilke is concerned. The guy made only ONE relatively good circuit and that's Motorland Aragon(Pablo Nieto). All of the rest of his circuits are boring,look like a child used a very simple circuit editor program,and then did a lot of Copy Paste. Boooring. The guy obviously doesn't know what "follow the landscape" term means. And that is an essential ingredient of all the best world circuits,from Mount Panorama over Suzuka and all the way to the Nordschleife. I wanted to say he should be in the court of law for ruining a lot of good circuit making opportunities,but,you can't blame somebody for in-born ignorance and stu.....y,now can you? Cheers to all fellow gearheads!!!😁😎

[@Circuitsofthepast]

I think Istanbul Park is the best Tilke track. But otherwise, I totally agree with you. Tilkes tracks are too much copy paste. However, you can't blame him for the demolition of old Hockenheim.

[@vladimirzimonja8103]

@@Circuitsofthepast Yes,i agree totally,and i forgot that Istanbul Park is his circuit. Something always makes me think that he didn't do that one. I stand corrected,and in that case Istanbul IS his best circuit. Definitely better than Aragon. As for Hockenheim,they definitly screwed it up whoever it was. It was one of my favourite circuits the old Hockenheim. 335+ through the forrest...beautifull. I just can't get over them destroying two tracks-original Circuit van Drente at Assen and Hockenheim. But what can we do,ha? Let's not let them get on our nerves. Thankfully,there is still a good number of awesome tracks. But if they kill Suzuka,i'm gonna kill somebody. Cheers from Croatia. P.S. This quake was serious. Turned over the mini-tower of my old computer. Thank's for the help from all y'all in the rest of Europe!

[@paulopazevedo]

I beg to differ: Estoril is an amazing track ( I should know, I marshal there ;) ) and it's a Tilke original design . The changes made over the years were security fixes: the circuit actually "srhinked" to allow for gravel traps outside corners, for instance , and a new very slow chicane was added in the early 90s to bypass the "Tanque" corner and to reduce the speed approaching the Esses and the Parabolica ( renamed "Parabolica Ayrton Senna" after ). Nevertheless -and now thinking about it- I don't know if the "inside" of the circuit ( between the actual T3 and T7 ) was a Tilke design ( the original track went straight to Tanque's corner from T2 )... maybe a "mistery" for @circuitsofthepast to solve ;)

[@Circuitsofthepast]

@@paulopazevedo Estoril was NOT designed by Hermann Tilke. Tilke started engeneering in 1984 and his first complete circuit design was Sepang. The original Estoril layout is from 1972, when Tilke was only 17 and didn't desig circuits.

[@Marc180sx]

Another great video! I’ve always been fascinated with the aspendale racecoarse history as I live here in Victoria, we actually have a few lost circuits here in Victoria maybe one day would be awesome to see Herman down here in Aus land, after Covid of course... keep it up fellas!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Thanks! Yeah I hope to visit Aus land one day and visit some old race tracks. There are some cool old street circuits in Australia and also very weird permanent tracks. So it would definitely be worth a visit.

[@EnaiSiaion]

Can confirm, after playing some multiplayer racing games, that the first corner on Monza is in fact a straight.

[@Circuitsofthepast]

The first corner is the chicane of the straight, but that's not a straight and that was not the point in the video either. I think you mean the Curva Grande, the wide corner after the chicane. Bex=cause of the chicane that section is easy full throttle, so actually a curved part of the second straight.

[@EnaiSiaion]

@@Circuitsofthepast It was a reference to the fact that Monza is infamous in multiplayer games for generating lap one first corner pileups because someone is going to overshoot it and slam into everyone.

[@Circuitsofthepast]

@@EnaiSiaion That's by most online racing. There is always a 'funny' guy who goes full throttle straight on at the first corner and tries to include as many other players as possible in his crash. But yes, in Monza there is an escape. By the way, the full straight at Monza is being used for for testing for the 24 Hours of Le Mans.

[@endot5418]

So love your videos guys the voice the work that you do is very entertaining thank you very much !!! And damn you're right, People get angry when you call raidillon "raidillon"!!!

[@cliftonmanley3882]

I used to ride my push bike on My Druitt F1 circuit ca, 1965. I had no idea what it was, to a 7 year old it was just a really fast bit of tarmac nobody used 'cept us. I learned in 2010 why those huge ditches were dug in the Middle of the fastest bit of fun ever. Australian motorsport has a magnificent history. I know nothing of this track at all! Thanks heaps.

[@StraightOuttaPaddock]

thanks for your great work guys!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

You're welcome!

[@Albdentist]

Milwaukee Mile was purpose built in 1903 for auto racing, before that it was a horse racing track build in 1876 !

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Yes, but it was paved in 1954. I think Brooklands is seen as the first because it was paved from te beginning. There are many ways to look at it and several tracks claim to be the first.

[@tomboys588]

It could easily be argued that if a circuit was adapted from a horse racing track, then it's no more purpose built as a motorsport track than most UK tracks including Silverstone that were adapted from airfields (I know that at least most of those are more modern than the two mentioned though)

[@martoto77]

It really doesn’t matter if you say eat rouge instead of radillion. Most people are referring to the point where anything of interest in those corners will begin. It’s like at Interlagos if you said that someone overtaken coming out of Juncao but in fact they were still ahead into des boxes, the last left before the start finish. There are probably a few other series of corners which are identified by the first one.

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Enjoy your red meal ;)

[@amersfoortsefotograa]

You could argue that the first purpose-build racetracks, were those built by the Romans for their chariots and horse races? And maybe the ancient Greeks even before that? They go back some 2000 years...

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Yeah that are actually the first race tracks. But we talk about motor racing circuits.

[@MufferNl]

@@Circuitsofthepast It is a bit of a mouthful to say ' first racetrack built for the purpose of racing motor powered vehicles' instead of just ' first purpose built racetrack' indeed.

[@amersfoortsefotograa]

@@Circuitsofthepast Now all we can do is wait for a driver like Ben Hur...

[@cdname47]

I'll take great pleasure in telling people that it hockenheim wasn't built as a mercedes test track, but it was in fact built by christ. Seems legit

[@Circuitsofthepast]

It was not built by Ernst christ actually. He was the initiator. The works were done by unemploiment workers. They extended two existing public roads to creat a circuit. Here the full history of Hockenheim: www.circuitsofthepast.com/hockenheim-circuit/

[@jetengnexd4348]

The first racetrack ever can be attributed to tens if not hundreds of places. Many people bought their new model Ts and alike and had friends that did too, so I could imagine many renting out a horse racing track, or racing around a median or something, somewhere in the world, probably buried beneath the dirt and gravel, or pavement, or maybe even a lake, is the first ever racing course.

[@Nordjyden9000]

The first car or motorcycle race took part when the second car or motorcycle was made. Give two 3-year olds a tricycle each, and watch was happens - they race each other.

[@mikepowers572]

Nuremburgring I've found comes from people that don't really follow motorsport at all. Thanks for this a couple of little gems in there I didn't even know were a thing. Happy new year.

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Happy new year

[@iKR-iKeysRacing]

Congratulations for this video, as usual well crafted and balanced and full of many points of interest or curiosity 🔝👍 I just add, with my surprise, that while preparing to attend this last July the WEC 6h of Monza...I have discovered also that the official website now calls the Curva Grande as Curva Biassono. I suppose as a reference to the close small town named Biassono. Like they did for the two Curve di Lesmo. But to be honest, to me it has been always Grande since I was a child. Instead very recent (2021) is the change from Curva Parabolica to Curva Michele Alboreto, after 20 years from the pass of the last great italian driver. He was born very close (Rozzano, a suburb south of Milan) to the circuit, and his first steps in motorsport were made in Monza within the category Formula Monza that was basically our version of the usual well known Formula Junior. Sorry for being so long. Best wishes&cheers 🥂 from...Monza🙋🏻‍♂️ Luckily for me, I live very close here 😉 Marco Lazzari [iKR]

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Grazie e auguri dai Paesi Bassi.

[@iKR-iKeysRacing]

@@Circuitsofthepast many thanks to you!! You did (and still do) an incredible sharing with these contents 🔝🔝🔝👍👍👍 And congrats for your italian words, much appreciated 😉

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Prego :) Have you also seen the video in which I explore Monza with a friend from Italy? He lives also not far from Monza. Here the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZbWnaxprbeJp5I

[@Black_Razor]

thanks for sharing the Spa Museum, it now get more clear why its so confusing.

[@Circuitsofthepast]

You're welcome. That circuit model in the museum was also for me the eye opener. Before I was also in doubt. In the early 90's it was Raidillon but than people start naming that corner Eau Rouge. So when I visited the Circuit Museum for the first time in 2005 and saw the model it was clear to me.

[@asbjrntverberg2428]

Ha ha! You said Lauritzring instead of Lausitzring! 🤓

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Slip of the tongue by Simon. Maybe this will cause a new misconception and everyone will call the Lausitzring the Lauritzring :O

[@asbjrntverberg2428]

@@Circuitsofthepast I'm all for creating new misconceptions. 😁

[@MrLargePig]

Happy New Year, Hermann and Simon!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Happy new year too

[@xtremegondorgamer9606]

7:15 I've heard of this misconception lots of times in the F1 video games. 😆

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Yes it's a widespread misconception. That's why it is at number two.

[@xtremegondorgamer9606]

@@Circuitsofthepast It's crazy I believed it at first LOL

[@Circuitsofthepast]

@@xtremegondorgamer9606 Most people believe what reporters tell, becaus they see them as the authority. But actually, most reporters parrot what they heard and they make up their own story. Also, most people want to believe the first version they heard and don't accept the real facts. A good example is the number 1 in this video :)

[@xtremegondorgamer9606]

@@Circuitsofthepast Crazy!

[@marcellobulgarelli379]

Nordschleife 77 corners (74 if you don't count a few semi-corners)... I've raced it 😊 Great job, keep it up ❤

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Thanks! It depends how you count. Chicanes are mostly counted as one corner, while it are actually two or more corners. So I counted every corner and came at 104.

[@DanielGjrTing]

This is exactly the kind of nerdy stuff that I come to this channel for. Great content!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Thanks!

[@Midori900]

The castle is actually called nür castle. Burg is the german word for castle.

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Ich weiß, aber es muss in wenigen Sekunden erklärt werden.

[@TurboM]

They killed the hockenheimring

[@Circuitsofthepast]

And now you know who ;)

[@vladimirzimonja8103]

Another good one. Roll on!!!

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Thanks!

[@happysoul1907]

Im sorry that i keep ariving late too these premieres but i hope things can go back to normal soon

[@happysoul1907]

Anyway I enjoyed the video really goid work, kerp it up

[@Circuitsofthepast]

Thanks!

[@zenqmeister]

11:05 he said the line XD

[@Circuitsofthepast]

He said "IT'S Raidillon actually", not that stupid meme ;)

[@zenqmeister]

@@Circuitsofthepast close enough xd