Top 10 Worker Placement Games

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@alexkrivo
@alexkrivo 4 жыл бұрын
Order: Zee,Sam,Tom 10. Mangrovia,Pillars of the Earth,Automania 9. Looking For Trobils,Pret a Porter,Anachrony 8. Lewis & Clark,Otys,Charterstone 7. Charterstone,Pie Town,Raiders of the North Sea 6. Viticulture Essential Edition,The Mannhatan Project 2,Empires: Age of Discovery 5. Pillars of the Earth,Caverna,Caverna 4. Demon Worker,Roar: King of the Pride,Carson City 3. The Manhattan Project: Energy Empire,Scythe,Champions of Midgard 2. Automania,Stone Age,A Feast for Odin 1. Targi,Champions of Midgard ,Viticulture Essential Edition
@CaptainGamer347
@CaptainGamer347 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome guys! I've been waiting for this updated list. Thank you so much for posting this, Tom, Sam, and Zee!!!
@FranzBazar
@FranzBazar 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video . I have just gotten into worker placement. For the longest time I avoided it, thinking it was just that dry, boring old-school euro type game. But Lords of waterdeep on the iPad changed everything for me! Just have to say all you guys can be funny, but no one touches the master Mr. Healy. So hilarious. ‘Information free’ had me chuckling, and then his ongoing reaction during Zee’s description of the Demon Worker game, I was laughing out loud for a full minute!
@nguinguingui
@nguinguingui 6 жыл бұрын
I always find Zee's tastes in games so left field, which is great for going against the grain and showing us more to the already popular games. Abstract-y games are more his style. So I can understand that. -the step outside-the-box kind of game.
@Patronux
@Patronux 6 жыл бұрын
Lewis & Clark is underrated. It's brilliant. And it may look slow if you see it as a racing game, but you should see that track as what it really is: a points track. I love how strategic it is and it has just the exact amount of interaction.
@BuckishDweeb
@BuckishDweeb 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't know why the pacing of it concerns them. It really speeds up at the end, too, and a lot of the time the person who thinks they'll win by crossing first, actually gets passed on the final turn.
@Lanxe
@Lanxe 6 жыл бұрын
Love the game but I don't get to play it enough and so when we do it takes time for people to get their head back into it. Definitely would speed up and benefit from more frequent playing I think.
@Daggerleep
@Daggerleep 6 жыл бұрын
It is my favourite game of all time and I cant figure out why its not as popular. Its a smorgasboard of deck building, resource management and worker placement. I love it.
@irritadad1848
@irritadad1848 5 жыл бұрын
@@BuckishDweeb I think they have pacing problems because they use the WP mechanic too much! It's on the wrong list here. L&C engines run faster w/out Indians.
@eric5164
@eric5164 3 жыл бұрын
It is a good game. The resource types and applications are interesting. The historical character cards with differing abilities are intriguing.
@ripwolfe
@ripwolfe 6 жыл бұрын
I love Champions of Midgard, but unlike Tom, I still have kept Lords of Waterdeep. I still think it's a great game, especially with the Scoundrels of Skullport expansion. I love the ebb and flow of the corruption tokens through the rounds. So much fun. CoM has dice and LoWD has skulls. Golden!
@dinobuhelt-thansky9673
@dinobuhelt-thansky9673 4 жыл бұрын
Those are 2 of my familys favourite games! :-)
@ericweaver2691
@ericweaver2691 3 жыл бұрын
yes I have both. no idea why one would replace the other. both are great (with their expansions)
@mikemorris3372
@mikemorris3372 6 жыл бұрын
Picked up Targi yesterday for $18/CAD because it was Zee's #1. Played it once and loved it! Fantastic game!
@CaptainGamer347
@CaptainGamer347 6 жыл бұрын
I highly agree with Zee on MP: Energy Empire! It is an amazingly streamlined and fun worker placement game! The best of the series too!!
@oninoyakamo
@oninoyakamo 6 жыл бұрын
Sam doesn’t need another shirt. What he needs is two hats, one that reads ‘Tom is wrong’, the other ‘Zee is wrong’. That way he can put them on at a moment’s notice and alternate them quickly.
@madmuppet2k
@madmuppet2k 6 жыл бұрын
Happy to see Tom still gives Age Of Empires III some love. It was one of my first board game purchases thanks in no small part to a Tom Vassel BGG WRITTEN review (remember those?). Still one of my all time favorite games.
@GTRichardson7
@GTRichardson7 6 жыл бұрын
The discussion on Targi's Theme made me think you should do a "Top 10 Games that got the theme wrong" list but the one caveat is that you must come up with what the "Correct" theme for the mechanisms would be. I think this would be super interesting to hear.
@JerryHsu
@JerryHsu 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry Sam, Scythe is not a worker placement game. It's action selection. You don't place workers to do things. You choose an action to move the workers. You choose an action to have workers produce.
@Airdaman1
@Airdaman1 6 жыл бұрын
Jerry Hsu Bingo...
@MatthewMSanchez
@MatthewMSanchez 6 жыл бұрын
yep. not a worker placement. Action selection (with your side board) at best.
@logicguy37
@logicguy37 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@eddieb8054
@eddieb8054 6 жыл бұрын
I was gonna type this out. Didn’t have to!
@ivanvlopes
@ivanvlopes 6 жыл бұрын
It's safe to label Scythe as an engine building game. Damn, even James Stegmayer label it this way
@chadstilson8804
@chadstilson8804 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Architects of the West Kingdom would be on this list...
@zacharymartin1477
@zacharymartin1477 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, Zee. I can't get Lewis and Clark to the table enough. I was flabbergasted when I first played it.
@GamingWithGeo
@GamingWithGeo 6 жыл бұрын
Concerning Pret-a-Porter, Ignacy Trzewiczek mentioned in February that he was working on the updated version of it and he considers it one of the big projects of this year for Portal Games.
@iuribachnivsky3022
@iuribachnivsky3022 6 жыл бұрын
Scythe is a great game, so great that it deserves a place on all lists, including party and trivia.
@claytonweaver7335
@claytonweaver7335 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite 'nice' worker placement game is Manhattan Project: Energy Empire' and my top 'mean' worker placement game is 'Argent: the Consortium' . MP: EE probably needs an official expansion to compete with the amount of replay value in Argent but I really enjoy both games. There are almost too many games in the genre. Someone who loves Agricola might have a hard time buying Caverna. Someone who has Sons of Anarchy might have a hard time buying Carson City. Someone who has Argent might have a hard time buying Dominant Species. I feel like we're at the point where we need comparison videos more than we need reviews.
@miniongames
@miniongames 6 жыл бұрын
MP Energy Empire is doing an expansion this fall. :)
@aonline_abridged
@aonline_abridged 6 жыл бұрын
Argent is one of my top 5 WP for sure, variability x infinity. I would not compare it to Dominant Species at all though....
@sortehuse
@sortehuse 6 жыл бұрын
Viticulture can feel a little slow if you play without the mamas and papas from Tuscany (included in Viticulture: Essential Edition). You should never play without the mamas and papas.
@fingolfinfinwe
@fingolfinfinwe 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah they help a lot.
@TorIverWilhelmsen
@TorIverWilhelmsen 6 жыл бұрын
And add a couple of specialist workers from Tuscany for some spice.
@Trevin_Taylor
@Trevin_Taylor 6 жыл бұрын
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen those don’t come in essential edition.
@g8kpr3000
@g8kpr3000 6 жыл бұрын
I've only played it once, and I believe we played just the base game. I thought it was ok, but didn't really get the hype around it, and never really felt any need to ever play it again. I don't hate it, but I don't love it either. It's just sort of meh
@sortehuse
@sortehuse 6 жыл бұрын
You should give it another go if it was the first edition you played. The second edition is a huge improvement over the first edition. Essential Edition improves a little upon the second edition.
@netmommy4
@netmommy4 6 жыл бұрын
What a great list! And I´m so happy to see Targi on #1, it´s a fantastic game!
@zakwasny
@zakwasny 6 жыл бұрын
Scythe? Really??? How?
@thebrendan03
@thebrendan03 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anyone mention Dominant Species. It's kind of ugly but I really enjoy it's complexity.
@fearanarchy
@fearanarchy 6 жыл бұрын
thebrendan03- it is my #1 game of all time. However many consider it action selection instead
@dall1786
@dall1786 6 жыл бұрын
yeah i don't think i would call it worker placement either. It's such a unique game unto itself. that doesn't make it a bad game by any stretch. It's also a super heavy game which turns a lot of players off.
@Metttyu
@Metttyu 6 жыл бұрын
It's beautiful.
@iskendercatalbas2828
@iskendercatalbas2828 6 жыл бұрын
You cant find that heavy and excellent games in any dice tower top 10s
@Zersetzor
@Zersetzor 6 жыл бұрын
This! I played it a while back and immediately knew I had to get it. It is pretty hard to track down where I live, but just the other day I stumbled upon one copy of the newest edition by complete accident. And that one does look much, much nicer than the first edition. The art on the cards in the earlier on especially is off-putting. I hope to convince some friends to try it out this weekend.
@hanseathl
@hanseathl 6 жыл бұрын
Thx I still enjoy these longer Top 10 lists with the three of you. Always entertaining. I might not agree to all of your choices and arguments but - hey! That's part of the fun watching this. Automania is definitely in my Top 10 worker placement games and my family enjoys it a lot as well. Same for Stone Age. Also still a Hit in my family.
@nicksbordone5271
@nicksbordone5271 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like dice placement games should have been ok since there isn't enough of them yet to get their own list.
@joshyaks
@joshyaks 6 жыл бұрын
Tom's face at 22:08 as he wonders what alien life-form has taken over Sam's body! :D
@dancheston5786
@dancheston5786 6 жыл бұрын
How can I add 1,000 likes to your post...
@fearanarchy
@fearanarchy 6 жыл бұрын
It is the same one where he counters his argument FOR Pie Town when he missed the same thing in Epic Card Game. SAME ARGUMENT..
@marknadeski7485
@marknadeski7485 4 жыл бұрын
Hilarious. Thanks for pointing this out!
@TorIverWilhelmsen
@TorIverWilhelmsen 6 жыл бұрын
I missed Euphoria, but that maybe was eliminated by the "no dice placement" rule. Also Crisis, the economic worker placement engine builder from Greece.
@koffiegast
@koffiegast 6 жыл бұрын
How is Scythe worker placement...?
@nicksbordone5271
@nicksbordone5271 6 жыл бұрын
koffiegast Because you have workers and you place them into your board
@koffiegast
@koffiegast 6 жыл бұрын
Are you dense? Nobody else can put their worker on your board. You only have one "Worker". Just because it is a pawn doesnt mean it is a worker. The only thing you can not do is use the same spot as last turn, unless you are russian. There is absolutely nothing worker placement about that.
@RockShock07
@RockShock07 6 жыл бұрын
Its action selection on your own private board. You are not placing workers to gain anything, you are activating pseudo workers on the board via the production action.
@nicksbordone5271
@nicksbordone5271 6 жыл бұрын
...it was a joke guys
@koffiegast
@koffiegast 6 жыл бұрын
Consider it a lesson learned: people can not read your mind nor your sarcasm through the internet.
@bisco6
@bisco6 5 жыл бұрын
1. Anachrony 2. Fields of Arle 3. Lords of the Waterdeep 4. Agricola 5. Sycthe 6. Champions of Midgard 7. Alien Frontiers
@stonecoggins107
@stonecoggins107 5 жыл бұрын
I'm actually so curious as to what Tom could possibly be thinking to argue that Caylus isn't a worker placement game. The game is literally entirely about placing workers haha
@aegis2313
@aegis2313 6 жыл бұрын
I love Sam's reaction when Zee mentions Demon Worker's theme!
@TheMr02drop
@TheMr02drop 6 жыл бұрын
Played A Feast for Odin again yesterday and had a lot of fun exploring new strategies with it! It's really super deep.
@TheRASDEL83
@TheRASDEL83 6 жыл бұрын
Great list... I don't tend to like Worker Placement games. But Champions is my favorite right now... mainly cause you don't get just points, or chips, or counters... you get freaking dice... and you battle with those freaking dice... against freaking monsters... through a freaking sea... freaking... epic 😁
@CaptainGamer347
@CaptainGamer347 6 жыл бұрын
Are you guys going to come out with a top 10 dice placement games list this year as well? I'm guessing Voyages of Marco Polo will be on that list.
@Steve-L
@Steve-L 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think they would have enough to do 10. But it is definitely unique to be its own category.
@CapriciousIntent
@CapriciousIntent 6 жыл бұрын
Euphoria! I'm obsessed with that game right now. And Rajas of the Ganges! This genre really has some stars.
@Penceos
@Penceos 6 жыл бұрын
"Do you think Caylus is looked at as a worker placement game?" You know how in the early days, first-person-shooters were "Doom clones"? Go look at threads from 2006-2007 on BGG and count the number of people calling Pillars of the Earth a "copy of Caylus", "Caylus light" etc. (... also, one of them is Tom) :P
@GabChiasse
@GabChiasse 6 жыл бұрын
3 Top Ten ideas: - « Push your luck » games - Good looking games (easier to attract non gamers) - Bring on camping or trip games (easy to carry, to setup and don’t need a huge table) You guys are AWESOME!!! Keep up the good work **please like this comment if you think the ideas are good so Tom will see it 😃**
@RPG_Bliss
@RPG_Bliss 6 жыл бұрын
Always love the top 10s!!
@RicoCordova
@RicoCordova 6 жыл бұрын
First, as others have said, Scythe isn't a worker placement game. My top 10 Worker Placement Games: 10. Stone Age 9. Shakespeare 8. Kanban: Automotive Revolution 7. New Bedford 6. Charterstone 5. Lords of Waterdeep 4. Caverna: The Cave Farmers 3. Rajas of the Ganges 2. Viticulture Essential Edition 1. The Manhattan Project: Energy Empire
@blackkedrick
@blackkedrick 6 жыл бұрын
1. Champions of Midgard 2. Lords of Waterdeep 3. Anachrony 4. Carson City 5. Coal Baron 6. Alien Frontiers 7. Kingsport Festival 8. Stoneage 9. Viticulture 10. Empires Age of Discovery
@matthewrichardson1805
@matthewrichardson1805 6 жыл бұрын
Love watching you guys! Another fab video. Thank you!
@kanedafx
@kanedafx 6 жыл бұрын
Sam should try Argent: the Consortium. He might like it, it's heavier and has more direct player interaction than most worker placement.
@elijahfuller9693
@elijahfuller9693 5 жыл бұрын
For what its worth my group loves Argent, sadly we find it hard to get to the table due to the time it takes to play. I really like the theme and love the unique workers in it. The biggest con for me with Argent is there are so many other games we also love that take 2-3 hours to play that its tough choice. The games that take ~1 hour gets played the most with us. Sam might like Argent since he doesn't mind longer games and he seems to want more player interaction in his games.
@queerchameleon
@queerchameleon 6 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons Automania is getting no love in the US is you can’t get the damn thing anywhere. Without paying an arm and a leg.
@gr8fulded
@gr8fulded 6 жыл бұрын
I thought maybe Eric Lang's The Godfather would've been on one of these lists. Nice mix of worker placement and area control.
@TheMan-jd3uw
@TheMan-jd3uw 6 жыл бұрын
David Seidner, agreed, my wife and I are hooked on The Godfather. Not overly complex but a great, engaging and fun game. Good call.
@smoothcriminal28
@smoothcriminal28 6 жыл бұрын
Best game of 2017 for me.
@dancheston5786
@dancheston5786 6 жыл бұрын
Godfather is soooo good.
@KristoVaher
@KristoVaher 6 жыл бұрын
Godfather is brilliant. I wish it got an expansion with an extra player and more special character cards.
@keel1701
@keel1701 6 жыл бұрын
Tom... how is Caylus not worker placement?
@halucinagenia
@halucinagenia 6 жыл бұрын
I’m with Zee on Mangrovia - it’s a very underrated game
@VinegarAndSaltedFries
@VinegarAndSaltedFries 6 жыл бұрын
Jamey himself doesn't consider Scythe a Worker Placement game lol. Serious lack of Vital Lecerda on this list. Vinhos, The Gallerist...two of the best in the genre.
@logicguy37
@logicguy37 6 жыл бұрын
Casey Pierson They 90% of the time don't like Heavy euros
@kanedafx
@kanedafx 6 жыл бұрын
Vinhos is a worker placement game...how? I can take literally any action I want, I just have to pay you a coin if I do the one you're on.
@TorIverWilhelmsen
@TorIverWilhelmsen 6 жыл бұрын
And The Gallerist is more of a rondel game.
@smoothcriminal28
@smoothcriminal28 6 жыл бұрын
Jamey is wrong, Sam is right. Nothing to see here folks.
@VinegarAndSaltedFries
@VinegarAndSaltedFries 6 жыл бұрын
Trey Chambers I mean, in the sense of take a worker, then place it to take an action. Yes it's only one worker but the actions are the complex part..., and the penalty still exists for using a spot someone occupies just like a traditional WP game.If Charterstone is, I would definitely consider Vinhos it may be basic in that mechanism and complex in the others (in Charterstone and euphoria for that matter you can just bump workers in your way creating a slight benefit for who was at the spot first just like Vinhos)...but it wouldn't function without placing a worker. To me that is as worker placement as it gets. Vinhos is an amazing standout game in the genre. P.S. I see you Harvest.
@nathanmichael167
@nathanmichael167 6 жыл бұрын
Scythe instead of Caylus or LaHarve, two of the icons of the genre. As many have said at no point are workers competing for spaces on a board, thus Scythe just doesn't have the mechanic.
@RedEyedGhost1
@RedEyedGhost1 6 жыл бұрын
My top ten: 10. Lorenzo il Magnifico 9. Rajas of the Ganges 8. Stone Age 7. The Voyages of Marco Polo 6. Energy Empire 5. Viticulture 4. A Feast for Odin 3. The Gallerist 2. Anachrony 1.Champions of Midgard I still need to try Agricola, Caverna, Tzolk'in, Troyes, Le Havre, Vinhos, Kanban, Madeira, Keyflower, Raiders of the North Sea, and Carson City. I think all of those have the potential to break into my top 10. Games that I'm looking forward to and have either preordered or kickstarted that could also make it into my top ten are: Neta-Tanka (the linked action bonuses look really fun), Calimala, Targi, Rurik: Dawn of Kiev, Escape Plan, Snowdonia, Trickerion, Tales of the Northlands, Gugon, Crisis, Architects of the West, Edge of Darkness, Robin Hood and the Merry Men, and Dice Hospital... typing it all out like that makes me think I'm kickstarting too many games...
@aonline_abridged
@aonline_abridged 6 жыл бұрын
Architects of the West Kingdom mind you ;)
@RedEyedGhost1
@RedEyedGhost1 6 жыл бұрын
That is the one.
@monoludico6166
@monoludico6166 6 жыл бұрын
Viticulture essential edition is great... But, with the exception of Zee's #1 and #8 (Targi and Lewis & Clark), I think I have little in common with these guys. For example, I prefer Agricola so much over Caverna (really dislike that lack of tension, that sandboxy felling). Also, I cannot imagine a Top 10 WP games without Tzolk'in, Russian Railroads, Troyes or Caylus.
@JosephFlemming
@JosephFlemming 6 жыл бұрын
55:00 and that expansion is miserably hard to find!! right up there with the expansion for Adventure land. simply don't exist anymore
@MeanNGreen17
@MeanNGreen17 6 жыл бұрын
Scythe is definitely is not a worker placement game.
@AntoineLefebvr
@AntoineLefebvr 6 жыл бұрын
Jeff Connell totally agree, it's more of an action selection game
@AaronKnoup
@AaronKnoup 6 жыл бұрын
Area control/Action selection
@DuelistVash
@DuelistVash 6 жыл бұрын
Jamey Stegmaier did his top worker placement games last week and said that Scythe isn't a worker placement game. Can't get more definitive than the designer saying it's not
@BrandonGraham
@BrandonGraham 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be a top ten if Sam didn't sneak something in that doesn't fit. :]
@drbasseri
@drbasseri 6 жыл бұрын
AbsurdNerd so true
@guillermoz4914
@guillermoz4914 6 жыл бұрын
So excited for this, 🍿 is ready!
@guillermoz4914
@guillermoz4914 6 жыл бұрын
Hope the next list is top 10 worker dice placement games!
@iNathanLite
@iNathanLite 5 жыл бұрын
1. Stone Age 2. The River ... They're all I have. Champions of Midgard looks awesome.
@madifinley7018
@madifinley7018 6 жыл бұрын
Tom, would you consider sharing your custom built Charterstone board in a video? I want to do the same thing but I would hate to make a bad board.
@jeremysnyder8848
@jeremysnyder8848 6 жыл бұрын
Roar is area control in a similar vein to Risk. It is by no means a worker placement game. Also Scythe.
@iskendercatalbas2828
@iskendercatalbas2828 6 жыл бұрын
My top 10 10- Agricola 9- Orleans 8- Le Havre 7- Kanban 6- Trickerion 5- Madeira 4- Vinhos 3- Lignum 2- Three Kingdoms Redux 1- Dominant Species
@Romey301
@Romey301 6 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Another top ten. And a great topic at that 🤗 whoop whoop
@MatthewMSanchez
@MatthewMSanchez 6 жыл бұрын
Zee I'm with you. Not only is L&C a great game but I like it a lot more than Discoveries.
@smoothcriminal28
@smoothcriminal28 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Sanchez Lewis n Clark is awesome for sure. I regret selling it :(
@MatthewMSanchez
@MatthewMSanchez 6 жыл бұрын
Funny. I sold it too. And then I reacquired it a year later.
@smoothcriminal28
@smoothcriminal28 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Sanchez It’s definitely on my re-purchase at some point down the line list lol
@lorcanawithluke
@lorcanawithluke 6 жыл бұрын
Im only gunna argue this one point FOR Scythe being a worker placement game. You only really get your 3 starting positions as "free" spaces to produce from, but later on in the game you gotta fight for your territory to place your workers on.
@aaronconnell3271
@aaronconnell3271 6 жыл бұрын
#1 worker placement for me is far and away argent the consortium. Definitely a game that deserves more love even if it is a bit specialized.
@inuinuinuinuinu
@inuinuinuinuinu 6 жыл бұрын
automania deserves so much more love! i think it's the silly art.
@Moldrath
@Moldrath 6 жыл бұрын
Harbour is such a fun Worker Placement game. I'm surprised it hasn't appeared on more lists.
@adilmajid8785
@adilmajid8785 6 жыл бұрын
I kept hearing it in my mind as Manhattan Project: 2 Minutes to Midnight and was thinking man that's a very specific theme! Lol
@dddmmm21
@dddmmm21 6 жыл бұрын
Considering Zee's distaste for the the genre and Sam's confusion (Scythe?? Roar??), this would have been a great opportunity for Mandi and Suzanne to be in the planel... It would also be great if Jason did a quick top 10 on the genre...
@aonline_abridged
@aonline_abridged 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I really did not think this was a good list from the big WP pool of games out there.
@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous
@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous 6 жыл бұрын
Except that Mandi lives in Canada and Suzanne on the other side of the country.
@dddmmm21
@dddmmm21 6 жыл бұрын
1) They were all together at GenCon so hopefully they recorded something... 2) Internet video
@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous
@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's always a Gen Con live show... usually featuring music :)
@fingolfinfinwe
@fingolfinfinwe 6 жыл бұрын
Tom's list is great. I'd add in Trickerion and maybe Dinosaur Island (love the theme). Does Francis Drake count as WP?
@CardboardistYT
@CardboardistYT 6 жыл бұрын
It almost feels like a rondel mixed with worker placement to me.
@CaptainGamer347
@CaptainGamer347 6 жыл бұрын
Tom, what number is Lorenzo Il Magnifico for you? I thought for sure that would have been on your top 10!
@thedicetower
@thedicetower 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't do dice placement games.
@CaptainGamer347
@CaptainGamer347 6 жыл бұрын
I guess I don't think of it as a dice placement game since you are placing workers. The dice represent the worker values, yes, but no dice are placed on the worker spots. Voyages of Marco Polo is different though, as your dice are workers. But the lines can be blurred here. Thanks for the reply, Tom!
@Zanollo5
@Zanollo5 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedicetower maybe you should play the game before make stupid comments like that.
@paintmylittleworld4367
@paintmylittleworld4367 6 жыл бұрын
Recently, there was a ship that went off course and was lost in the fog off the coast of North Wales. Ship to shore called for all lighthouses to be lit. Things seemed grim until they brought in Sam Healey and he was able to guide them safely home with the top of his head
@fnorddiscord
@fnorddiscord 6 жыл бұрын
paintmylittleworld hahahahahaha 😂
@sanemalk9957
@sanemalk9957 6 жыл бұрын
Really happy I got the last copy of Automania from my FLGS. Tom and Zee are right, it's a wonderful game that deserves more attention.
@paullucas1579
@paullucas1579 6 жыл бұрын
Carson City + Time Travel = Back to the Future III
@Mecheka
@Mecheka 6 жыл бұрын
Did the Dice Tower do a Top Tiny Epic Game?
@conmchugh6691
@conmchugh6691 6 жыл бұрын
Some great games there guys.Two that I played this year that are well worth playing IMO ,Are Chimera Station And Belfort
@exiledsonofhawaii3934
@exiledsonofhawaii3934 6 жыл бұрын
I liked Belfort. Idk why it got little respect.
@osirisgolad
@osirisgolad 6 жыл бұрын
Really hope we're going to get the Targi reprint soon and I'm also hoping for the expansion to get released in English alongside it.
@theautumntree1
@theautumntree1 6 жыл бұрын
Argent: The Consortium and Trickerion are my top two and probably will never leave those spots.
@susanjohnson318
@susanjohnson318 4 жыл бұрын
How about Istanbul? Might be weird because you are limited to placing with two spaces. But the tension is there when someone gets to THE space I need and I don't want to pay them because I need to buy a jewel.
@natehocking8884
@natehocking8884 6 жыл бұрын
Would Pursuit of Happiness make it into your top 20 (Sam, Zee or Tom)? I played it recently and really enjoyed it. Wondered where it fell for you guys.
@steveody978
@steveody978 6 жыл бұрын
My wife and I really like Prodigals Club, excellent worker placement game to try if you have never played and a great theme!
@KingGhidorah_
@KingGhidorah_ 6 жыл бұрын
From Sam's description of Otys, it sounds like it's basically a jacked up version of Deep Sea Adventure, by Oink Games.
@StephenBenjamin4110
@StephenBenjamin4110 6 жыл бұрын
@thedicetower where can I find your final version of charterstone? I'm interested to see how you use the recharge kit
@violentfrog_
@violentfrog_ 6 жыл бұрын
i love that the background picture of Targi is a situation that would never happen while playing Targi (workers on face down cards)
@masterjediade9650
@masterjediade9650 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Scythe is a worker placement game. It is more of an action selection / area control game? Yes you have workers that you place on the board but they only gather resources of you choose that action. Otherwise they don’t do anything and just control the area.
@andymesa3307
@andymesa3307 6 жыл бұрын
Pret-a-Porter is the only game I approve of on these lists, and kudos to Sam for including it.
@drbasseri
@drbasseri 5 жыл бұрын
You don't approve A Feast for Oden??
@spunx44
@spunx44 6 жыл бұрын
I never really felt like Otys was worker placement at all. However, it's listed as a mechanism on it's BGG entry so what do I know? It's still a good game that's cheap to pickup now.
@Atlas-FM8
@Atlas-FM8 6 жыл бұрын
It's funny that Zee jokes about the expansion for Feast for Odin because the expansion actually DOES add more actions spaces like 20% more haha.
@stefansibbes2548
@stefansibbes2548 4 жыл бұрын
Anachrony is my new No. 1 Worker Placement. Especially with the Exosuit expansion. Its so good.
@logicguy37
@logicguy37 6 жыл бұрын
You're crazy Sam, Scythe is NOT a worker placement game. You have your own personal board of which on your turn is action selection via the pawn you place it at and the action(s) you perform from the top and/or bottom of that panel, and no one else fights you for that same spot for the action selection. Sorry man, but Scythe is not worker placement.
@smoothcriminal28
@smoothcriminal28 6 жыл бұрын
Jacob Cadena you know Sam doesn't care about guidelines. He just does what he wants and speaks his illusions into existence. Like a Boss lol
@katzenkotzen
@katzenkotzen 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, and I don't consider Scythe worker placement either, but I think the part about Scythe that Sam considered worker placement is not the action selection but the moving on the board part and through activating your workers get something (most of the time ressources) in return. I don't necessarily agree with that, but I can see where he is coming from.
@GobiQc
@GobiQc 6 жыл бұрын
Except for the part where you place workers on the map bunch of duches XD
@kur1su74
@kur1su74 6 жыл бұрын
It's about the mechanism, not about "workers" being on a board. Also *douches.
@GobiQc
@GobiQc 6 жыл бұрын
Well the mechanism we talk about is : placing workers on the map. XD
@dlong025
@dlong025 6 жыл бұрын
It seems Vincent Dutrait was mentioned more than most of the designers on this list. I think it's time for a Vincent Dutrait Top 10 List
@RiddleFlowOn
@RiddleFlowOn 6 жыл бұрын
I’m really surprised nobody mentioned the underrated Chimera Station. A very innovative twist on worker placement which lets you build your workers over the course of the game. The pieces may look toy-ish, but the gameplay is deep and interesting.
@dannys_78
@dannys_78 6 жыл бұрын
Given the way Tom's talked about it in past, it's probably somewhere in his top 30 WP games.
@Aba19xx
@Aba19xx 6 жыл бұрын
The Dice Tower - which one's are best with 2 players?
@Randallsilver
@Randallsilver 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they finally have their own private jet, but did they have to warm up the engines so close to the mic throughout this whole video?
@Aba19xx
@Aba19xx 5 жыл бұрын
Which ones are best for 2 players ??
@jonknight4616
@jonknight4616 6 жыл бұрын
Nice variety in the lists. A good mix between games I know about and ones I don't. (Though I hated Stone Age when I played it and didn't care for Viticulture). I enjoy all three Manhattan Projects though, and I would put them in the following order: Manhattan Project 1, Energy Empire, and MP 2. There are similarities between MP 1 and 2, but they play very differently. The focus is very different. And yes, the player interactivity is different. I like both games for different reasons, but I still prefer the original.
@JasperKazai
@JasperKazai 3 жыл бұрын
They have nicer clipboards in this video than they do in current videos... did Sam take them with him when he left or something? lol
@CardboardistYT
@CardboardistYT 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Anachrony get some love. Surprised Dinosaur Island wasn’t mentioned.
@Conman6408
@Conman6408 6 жыл бұрын
Anybody know what Zees hat says? I have an idea but I don't know if I am right or not
@nickvandam1214
@nickvandam1214 6 жыл бұрын
Lords of Waterdeep, Fresco, Stone Age, Walnut Grove, and Agricola are ones I love to play, Caverna and Pursuit of Happiness might make it onto the list if I get a chance to play them.
@Steve-L
@Steve-L 6 жыл бұрын
Agricola Family Edition is my #1, Pursuit of Happiness is my #6 & Lords of Waterdeep my #7.
@cparks1000000
@cparks1000000 4 жыл бұрын
How is Fresco worker placement instead of action selection?
@citriccomics
@citriccomics 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone's said it already, and while Scythe isn't worker placement, Sam's comment does make me wonder if there are worker placement games where your workers actually are able to stay on the board and move around, and are only returned when opponents bump them off? It could be interesting to have a game where it's not just the spot you take, but the path you plan around it, and also have the ability to camp a worker on a space until someone boots you out (either giving you a benefit, or costing them).
@TeChNoWC7
@TeChNoWC7 6 жыл бұрын
How is Caylus at all not a worker placement game?? I don't even see how it could possibly be contentious
@BuckishDweeb
@BuckishDweeb 6 жыл бұрын
Agree. It's an archetype of the genre!
@fearanarchy
@fearanarchy 6 жыл бұрын
Watch Dice Tower Con Top 10 Overrated
@sudamahebert6978
@sudamahebert6978 6 жыл бұрын
For me it IS the quintessential WP. But when I tried part of the earth when it came out I thought that it was a simplified version of Caylus. In that regard, maybe it is the most quintessential. Let say that there was way fewer WP back then.
@TeChNoWC7
@TeChNoWC7 6 жыл бұрын
You mean Pillars of the Earth? Nothing like Caylus.
@sudamahebert6978
@sudamahebert6978 6 жыл бұрын
@@TeChNoWC7 yes pillars! As I said (maybe unclearly) it was the impression that I had in 2006. Back then 'worker placement' was an emerging concept not even a coined term. In that regard, Pillars was a simplified version of Caylus when it came out the year after. In the grand order of things I guess there is other games that is more similar to Caylus than 'pillars'. But at this point the industry have been pushing WP games for 12 years. Anyway it is a matter of opinion at this point 😊
@yohannc.9594
@yohannc.9594 6 жыл бұрын
1 - Dominant Species 2 - Fresco 3 - Lorenzo il Magnifico (not a dice game for me) 4 - Rokoko 5 - Viticulture 6 - Caverna 7 - Tzolk'In 8 - Caylus 9 - Trajan 10 - Navegador 11 - Vanuatu 12 - Egizia
@simf7643
@simf7643 6 жыл бұрын
I like Myrmes a lot, the ant theme is special and the game play is very thematical. Did you ever played it?
@williamschneider690
@williamschneider690 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's my midwest background but Agriculture has a certain pronunciation and so does Coke-Cola. You add those together to get "Agri"-"Cola." Why do people say it so differently? I'm curious.
@SIBLINGSLOVE930
@SIBLINGSLOVE930 6 жыл бұрын
Can't believe Chimera Station wasn't mentioned since Tom seemed so elated by it. Same goes for Dino Island
@thedicetower
@thedicetower 6 жыл бұрын
Chimera Station was in the running! I love Dino Island, but the worker placement part is very minor to me, compared to the rest of the game.
@rickthompson3843
@rickthompson3843 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam for correcting Eric's foolish choice. Stone Age is a great game! I also like the luck factor in the game, I think it adds just the right amount of excitement. To date I have not played Glen Drover's Essential Age of Viticulture, Age of Discovering Tuscany, but I look forward to it?
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