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@halfghaniteevee355928 күн бұрын
That Ted Laso thing was messed up
@codyhiginbotham661628 күн бұрын
6:18 I've said several times, just because a character discovers they're LGBT, that doesn't justify cheating. Good to know I'm not alone in that thought
@Jermbot1511 күн бұрын
Divorce yes. Cheating no.
@msfriendsfan4ever78828 күн бұрын
If you were going to choose a Carrie moment, then it should have been when she had an affair with Big while dating Aiden. Not breaking up with Aiden in season 4.
@LisaAnne-n8f28 күн бұрын
The scene with Natasha tops it for me with how disgusting Carrie is
@Gandellion28 күн бұрын
I agree, and I think them breaking up made total sense. They couldn’t get married, he didn’t trust her.
@SnowTails27 күн бұрын
I think the only reason they used this one is because it was more than once she hurt him and didnt learn the first time
@alexclark237026 күн бұрын
@@Gandellion if anything that was probably one of the best decisions she made! She would have probably cheated on him again anyways
@Gandellion26 күн бұрын
@@alexclark2370 exactly, I would have been terrible for both of them
@FoxGamer3961827 күн бұрын
I thought Rachel Berry was despised long before she bailed on the theater.
@koalaeucalyptus13 күн бұрын
I was thinking that as well xD
@heatherglover77898 күн бұрын
me too
@beccagregory35865 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@basm620inbelair928 күн бұрын
So funny that Natalie in HIMYM who gets dumped on her birthday, is played by the same actress that played Precious on Friends, who also gets dumped on her birthday. And while Precious doesn’t get dumped over the phone like Natalie, she does get dumped not by the guy she’s dating, but by the guy’s new girlfriend! (Phoebe) 😂 😝
@pluraliatantum305523 күн бұрын
At least Phoebe tried to inspire Precious to see the Mike as an idiot,lol
@theravenandthedesk18 күн бұрын
I’m so glad someone pointed it out lol
@kaylapounds135913 күн бұрын
That's why she changed her name to Amber Volakis and became bitter and Cutthroat.
@andrefaelnar6 күн бұрын
@@kaylapounds1359no wonder why dr house called her "cutthroat bitch" plus she was dating house's best friend wilson lol
@diawolf812518 күн бұрын
We also fell out of love with Alison from Umbrella Academy when she tried to SA her brother using her powers
@YaGirlJem13 күн бұрын
That scene was HORRIBLE to watch, poor Luther
@unicorn698 күн бұрын
He was engaged!
@beccagregory35865 күн бұрын
That part made me sick
@QueenOfTheZombieApocalypseКүн бұрын
Did we ever love Alison? We first meet her as a movie star who used her powers to manipulate everyone around her including her ex-husband and child to force them all to love her.
@diawolf8125Күн бұрын
@ yeah season 1 Allison sucked but I feel like a lot of us actually started liking her in season 2 enough to forget about season 1. Though now thinking about it, she did also make Victor believe he didn’t have powers which freaking sucked.
@Jamietheroadrunner28 күн бұрын
Never seen an episode of Gilmore Girls but I swear just through watching Watchmojo over the years, I know everything about Rory’s life and what an entitled failure she turned out to be 😂
@Bingb0ngbing26 күн бұрын
As a fan of the show, this comment is absolutely amazing 😅
@samanthac.34919 күн бұрын
Yeah, she’s my least favorite character on the show among the main cast. I rewatch it for all the other characters.
@daenerystargaryen630218 күн бұрын
So other characters can get away with murder but poor Rory can't make a few mistakes when she was young?
@astridjl8515 күн бұрын
Same. I keep thinking I should watch it
@kerrysater15715 күн бұрын
The maybe you should actually watch it. People who say she's a failure haven't been paying attention
@jadams01928 күн бұрын
Nah Ted cheating on Victoria was when people fell out of love with him, and Ross was of how possessive of Rachel
@Jamietheroadrunner28 күн бұрын
Looking back on the show, Ted was a monster and far worse than Barney, because he actually believed he was a nice guy when he was anything but.
@TheReaperofHades28 күн бұрын
@@JamietheroadrunnerYeah. At least with Barney, he was upfront about his predatory behavior, so you knew what to expect.
@daniella12hol28 күн бұрын
Yes his jealousy and possessiveness was what made Rachel say she needed a break (from the arguing and to think about their issues) but he took it literal and went and slept with someone else that same night. So yes he cheated.
@thedevilsrockstxr230928 күн бұрын
@@daniella12hol u cant leave someone waiting on a what if, being possessive is thinking u can dismiss someone and still lay claim to em, there's no such things as breaks....sound dense
@thedevilsrockstxr230928 күн бұрын
@@Jamietheroadrunner calling him a monster is a bit much, he did nothing remotely illegal.....smh get over urself, if thts a monster, ur just extremely soft
@hayleydouglas28 күн бұрын
Ted was an arrogant, pretentious, stuck up know it all - and I hated the way he treated Victoria when he cheated on her with Robin, and I really hated the way he treated his friends especially Barney
@tjohns2528 күн бұрын
Yep.. he was insufferable from the first episode
@hayleydouglas28 күн бұрын
@@tjohns25 oh yeah absolutely
@Vaughndaleoulaw17 күн бұрын
Barney? What did he do to Barney?
@senister1416 күн бұрын
Hey, Ted was cool, don't be a mosby hater.
@shenza4216 күн бұрын
Ted was a total dick…despite their issues the only really great couple was Marshall and Lily
@Omega_X_Factor28 күн бұрын
Spike attacking Buffy was terrible, but Buffy’s friends turning on her in S7 should’ve made the list.
@turnoffthetv26 күн бұрын
Buffy's friends repeatedly turned on her/attacked her throughout the series when she wasn't a people pleaser for them. See season 3 ("how dare you run away after Xander lied to you and you killed Angel?"), season 6 ("EWWWW Spike staging an intervention because it's not like us DRAGGING YOU OUT OF HEAVEN traumatized you"/"sorry we spent your entire inheritance in a few months, Buffy, get a job while we keep living here rent free"). They were not actually great friends.
@rachelrasmussen11017 күн бұрын
Spike reminding all of us he's a soulless monster (only to go get a soul) is one of the best moments of the whole series.
@catherineroberts8457 күн бұрын
The whole sexual relationship between them was ignoring the word no and pain equals pleasure. It was awful, but it was a good turning point for spike as a character and gave him a chance for a real redemption arc, something mentioned in Buffy but never actually acted out. See: angel, who tortured and murdered for centuries making up for it by stalking a teenage girl and leaving cryptic warnings. Ugh.
@rachelrasmussen11017 күн бұрын
@@catherineroberts845 spike dies saving the world, and he never acted out a real redemption arch? How you figure?
@torakunoichi6 күн бұрын
@@catherineroberts845the point of their sexual relationship was that was the only way buffy could feel anything and she knew it was wrong and disgusted her, but it made her feel alive and human again
@Frazzled_Chameleon23 күн бұрын
Joss Whedon hated how popular Spike became. He hated that the fans WANTED him with Buffy and actively shipped them together. He purposely wrote that scene to tank Spike’s popularity. THAT’S why it was so out of character and seemingly out of the blue. He did something similar with Charisma Carpenter (Cordelia) on the Buffy spin-off Angel.
@AerynKDesigns11 күн бұрын
I mean, there's a BIT of logic in there that "no" had meant "yes" for a good bit before this, AND she 100%, if not injured or allowing him to do so, could have broken his hold on her. He didn't know she was hurt, not really, and wasn't paying enough attention to realise that no really meant no in that bit. But yes, you're very right, and that's the only reason it happened which is why I just plain don't count it in my head. Like no, Spike went on his redemption arc becasue that's who he is, not because he did this fake horrible thing that didn't even happen because of Joss' BS.
@SensorySymposium11 күн бұрын
Are you sure about this? It feels like revisionist history now that Whedon has fallen from grace. He did not write that episode and had stepped down from head showrunner duties by that point. The darker, more twisted aspects of S6 were Marti Noxon's doing.
@darkwitnesslxx6 күн бұрын
@@SensorySymposium This. Oh it was definitely in character and there were signs of it seasons earlier with the way he treated Harmony, or hell even Dru
@codyhiginbotham661628 күн бұрын
I actually started hating Ted when he cheated on Victoria with Robin. But, yeah, him dumping Natalie on her birthday (twice) was very wrong (Also, Ted's overall obsession with Robin was super irritating, especially since it led to the end of his and Victoria's relationship, twice)
@PolyBiBadger27 күн бұрын
I hate how both of them (Ted and Robin) would be in love with the other and only wait until they were in a relationship to voice their feelings for the other. Like Robin made it clear how she felt about Ted after that whole first premature “I love you” so he reluctantly moved on. Later, he’s with Victoria (or one of his other girlfriends) and she immediately is like “I love him! How dare they steal my man” so he breaks up with them and he goes after her but she just goes “nah, I’m good.” Then the whole cycle just repeats 😒
@thunderbandit51726 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed watching reruns of HIMYM until the finale aired. I hadn't watched all of the episode so I wasn't aware of every plot point, but once they killed off the mom and Ted went back to Robin I was done with that show. One of the worst season finales I have ever watched in my entire life. It poisoned the well for me and I have never watched a single episode since. I actively hate Ted and that entire show now. Smh
@annejohnson587528 күн бұрын
I thought it was worse when Carrie insisted that Big, the guy she cheated on him with, be invited to Aidan's cabin. I thought he should have dumped her when Carrie refused to stop being friends with Big. Again, the guy she cheated on Aidan with!
@Jennilynne2 күн бұрын
I have a hard to imagining a real world scenario where someone would say sure, let the person you cheated with come hang out here with us. I know it's a TV show and we should suspend reality, but that scene is so far out there
@user-lb9xw4xf2q13 күн бұрын
Ross and Rachel were on a break, but his indignation became the issue, since he had been so hard on her, believing she was going to cheat with Mark - even though she had no interest at the time - but then a few hours after they split up, he hooked up with some random girl he didn't even notice before. As Chandler said, "You slept with someone three hours after you thought broke up. I mean, bullets have left gun slower." Ross was so obsessed with being semantically correct that he denied any validity of Rachel's feelings of betrayal; I mean, upon initial exposure, he expresses remorse and guilty, but later just rejected any responsibility. Perhaps it is due to being someone who was cheated on, he couldn't accept that he did the same.
@goofymao12616 күн бұрын
That's exactly my problem with him. His behavior was exactly the thing that troubled their relationship and after that affected Rachel so much to the point she needed a time alone, he got with another woman HOURS after. It's not about the actual technicality of cheating, but just about the implications of that in Rachel's point of view. But he didn't stop to think about that after cuz he just wanted to be right. And despite the active efforts to come back with her he still wouldn't at the very least acknowledge the validity of her feelings. Made me completely change how I saw him. Just made me all the more annoyed by the end where she chose him over Paris lol
@brunettespacecadet9926 күн бұрын
Spike is still a fan favorite. And my favorite. And dont forget he goes to get his soul afterwards.
@laurarico120019 күн бұрын
The most well written redemption arc ever written
@ZevranaArcana13 күн бұрын
It's also been stated that most people involved with the show were against that scene happening but Whedon wanted it so Whedon got it.
@Sytrylt12 күн бұрын
@@ZevranaArcana true, and I get how terrible that scene was. Especially for Sarah and James who played it
@Jermbot1511 күн бұрын
I liked that scene because it reminded us that Spike was evil, at the elemental level and he was physically incapable of redemption. Which is a fundamental truth of the series. in the Buffyverse you're not yourself when you become a vampire, a demon moves in, it takes control of your body, it takes your memories as its own, and then it preys on people. So sure, Spike was likable, and Spike felt affection and love for his evil wife/sire and then for his friends in the "scooby gang" but ultimately, he was evil. There was nothing good in him until his desire to be loved tricked him into reclaiming his soul and taking on all the guilt and horror that comes with it.
@andreamagwood705028 күн бұрын
Rory dropping out of Yale. That whole redirect was horribly wrong for her character. And don’t get me started on the later years series with her carrying on with Logan.
@LadyKattrina8428 күн бұрын
What Joss Whedon did to James Masters was disgusting. He went to therapy afterwards because it affected him so badly.
@inukaiser28 күн бұрын
well its not a surpise howa piece of shit Whedon its also in real life
@lazyhomebody135616 күн бұрын
Did he do it to him or was he writing a character?
@LadyKattrina8416 күн бұрын
@@lazyhomebody1356 Masters has said publicly how Whedon hated Spike's popularity since he was never meant to come back after his initial run, so he started to try and damage Spike's reputation in the show to get rid of him. A few people who worked on Buffy have said publicly how much of a dick Whedon was.
@lazyhomebody135616 күн бұрын
@LadyKattrina84 I've seen a few more comments here, and-- how awful!! He has alot of talent but seems like a petty as*hole
@LouiseEirwen16 күн бұрын
@@LadyKattrina84 exactly, and I remember a while back James stated that the episode actually came about because the writing team were specifically asked to write about things they themselves had done and regretted. As it turns out it was a female writer who had been the aggressor in a relationship. Joss and the team were the ones to make the decision they couldn't have Buffy the lead character doing something like that. Aparently Joss made out like they decided it should be Spike trying to rape Buffy. James says he and Sarah did not like it from the moment they read it but Joss and the rest pressed them to do the episode anyways, they were both VERY uncomfortable with it. I really do think that Joss was trying to tarnish Spike to finally get him kicked off the show, only for him to still be there to the end and then go on to Angel, that must of really ate at him. James has talked about how Joss cornered him once and said "I don't care how popular you're character is" and indicating he would essentially kill the character off if he wanted to. Joss had major control issues. Hell reading about what Charisma Carpenter went through too is eye opening, and he majorly ruined her character on Angel and then basically offed her.
@sonablom28 күн бұрын
18:11 James Masters talked about this moment recently on Michael Rosenbaum’s podcast and said that he had a really hard time filming it and even needed to go to therapy. Interestingly he said it was based on a female writers experience trying to get a boyfriend to stay through intimacy.
@moviemoth419223 күн бұрын
He and Sarah , I don’t even think really wanted to do that. I am convinced that it was a punishment from Joss for being so popular and not being able to be written out of the show.
@smaugkat17 сағат бұрын
Joss has had a habit of doing petty stuff. The show didn’t need to go there especially with no preparation for the audience. Glad stuff like this is handled differently now.
@ide10206 күн бұрын
Jess's "Why did you drop out Yale?!" lives rent free in my brain.
@annabethsmith-kingsley207928 күн бұрын
I propose that Ted Mosby was *_never_* likeable
@thelastoffluffs675514 күн бұрын
motion accepted 🧐
@ethrim14 күн бұрын
Seconded
@juanpablosaenz903713 күн бұрын
It's true, he's a hypocritical a-hole... even worse than Barney. Ted is a selfish and controlling man.
@alexjimenez345913 күн бұрын
I agree!
@the3nder112 күн бұрын
Yeah he is a tool. Nothing is ever his fault and he has no backbone.
@blobitz964825 күн бұрын
Ross had a whole laundry load of issues but the "we were on a break" drama wasn't even that bad. His jealousy stemming from how insecure he was was what should have been on the list.
@DiegoPalma-Benson14 күн бұрын
Bc they in fact were on a break. Before he even slept with the copy girl. Rachel let mark, the guy who gave Ross all the red flags invite himself over. So tbh it should have been Rachel on this list.
@fromthehaven9414 күн бұрын
I watched the old episode when Ross intruded upon Rachel wanting to celebrate their anniversary while she was busy at work. Combined with his unfounded fears about Rachel's coworker Mark, Ross could be maddening.
@BenKrav4 күн бұрын
This list is odd. Some of these are deliberate heel turns. Good guy becomes bad guy. Others were ruining a character.
@mszelika28 күн бұрын
I stopped watching Grey's Anatomy when they had Alex write those stupid letters. His character would have never done that to Jo.
@cassamoroll28 күн бұрын
exactly
@almetz79able27 күн бұрын
That was written by the writer that faked being sick.
@tanianino257826 күн бұрын
Me too, I hated that 😡🤬
@jennielouises21 күн бұрын
@@almetz79ableI didn’t realise that. No wonder it was so shit!
@dcndiamonds19 күн бұрын
Same. Ruined my favorite character on the show
@jennyfab31222 күн бұрын
Anyone that really, really watched Ted Lasso, could see Nate's progression from the first episode. He laughs when other people get hurt, he enjoys when other people make mistakes, the way he yelled at the new kitman. Rebecca was giving him a promotion and he called her a "shrew." Nate's betrayal was not at all surprising. His redemption was the surprise
@TallyDrake13 күн бұрын
Don't forget his pre-game "roast" of the players. Was it meant to be helpful or was it a result of his newfound power?
@clancyalexander619228 күн бұрын
On once upon a Time, I think we got a twofer Everyone had always respected Mary Margaret and David, even Regina though she didn't like them. When we find out that they caused the death of maleficent's child to save theirs, a lot of the shine came off of those two characters.
@divinelangene681326 күн бұрын
Yeah but I think the point was to show that they are not as good as everyone thought
@divinelangene681326 күн бұрын
Yeah but I think the point was to show that they are not as good as everyone thought
@kerrysater15715 күн бұрын
Rachel was never likable. As for her worst sin? I'd say sending a girl to a crack house is pretty bad
@nick566128 күн бұрын
I've said it before but they should have had Alex and Jo absent for a bit and then Jo comes back alone eventually revealing that after discovering he had kids with her she encouraged him to stay by and be a farther to them agreeing together to end it.
@jennielouises21 күн бұрын
Agree. Or have him ask her to come out and be with him via letter/phone call. We could have had a few episodes of her debating it but then deciding her career was where she wanted to focus and they broke up
@reyfan01128 күн бұрын
Watching Glee, Rachel has had many many moments where I got annoyed with her. But yeah, her getting to star in Funny Girl, achieving her dream, only to the next episode sing about how she’s stuck in a mundane routine, and ruined her broadway opportunity for a tv role she was not prepared for or had any plan for, I gave up understanding her character.
@kaylapounds135913 күн бұрын
I don't know, I feel like after Finn died, she was lost and trying to fill the void in ways to distract herself.
@LisaAnne-n8f28 күн бұрын
The scene where Carrie is caught by Natasha in HER house and all the scenes with them after for me are what make me despise Carrie so much
@frankieseward866728 күн бұрын
Dawson sabotaging Pacey. Seriously what was he thinking forcing Pacey off the race just to stoke his ego
@annabethsmith-kingsley207928 күн бұрын
"Dan is Gossip Girl", was a stupid twist but the show was so dead by the end, I don't think it even matters...
@meganclow695928 күн бұрын
Yeah I don't think they were writing the show in a way for viewers to look back and understand the ending 😅 They put more thought into the crazy storylines then how to end the dang thing
@annabethsmith-kingsley207928 күн бұрын
@@meganclow6959 yeah, kind of like Lost.
@PolyBiBadger27 күн бұрын
I think they were originally going to have Eric be GG but it got leaked so they changed it. Still didn’t make sense for Dan to be Gossip Girl tho. Vanessa or even Georgina would be a much better option 😬
@declaracionespolemicas25 күн бұрын
@@PolyBiBadger Eric being GG made no sense either. Didn't Gossip Girl out Eric as gay when he didn't anyone to know at the time, or am I remembering wrong? Also, the fact that GG focused so much on his sister, why would he want to hurt Serena? And many of the posts were made while Eric was away in the psychiatric hospital or whatever it was, I'm sure they don't allow technology at those places. Idk just seems farfetched.
@regalseagullGA28 күн бұрын
Definitely Ted from HIMYM. Never cared for him much but the thing that did it for me was repeatedly making fun of one of his students names. Like what?
@AgnessaMo27 күн бұрын
Well, he technically thought he was being smart by seeing through a students' prank only to realize it was actually a girl's real name. More dumb than mean. Dumping Natalie on her birthday twice was much worse.
@LinneaMcNeal5 сағат бұрын
RIP cook pu
@nerdymormon727 күн бұрын
I will never forgive the writers for doing Spike dirty like that
@MissCrazygirlie28 күн бұрын
I will never get over Alex leaving Jo via letter. They were such a good couple!
@chelseacanales876328 күн бұрын
I was going to say that Deb having romantic feelings for Dexter really ruined the whole show. I was enjoying it until that episode
@turnoffthetv26 күн бұрын
The character assassination of Spike still infuriates me.
@CarolHardesty17 күн бұрын
For HIMYM, I fell out of love with Ted when he cheated on Victoria with Robin. What's even worse is that later in the series, Ted and Victoria get back together. But then Victoria ends the relationship *again* when it's obvious Ted is still obsessed with Robin.
@allana-sarahbenjamin712327 күн бұрын
Allison killing Harlan was a shock. Don't forget she rumored Luther. At the end of season 3, she didn't check on her siblings if they were alright after their powers were gone. Also, the final season, when she came to Lila's kids' birthday, everyone except Luther, just looked at her like they didn't forget what she did. Don't get me started on Rory Gilmore!
@naomidixon464028 күн бұрын
I fell out of love with Rory Gilmore after she wrote that abhorrent fat-shaming article about the ballerina and we don't talk about that episode enough
@lazyhomebody135616 күн бұрын
😮😢 I was planning to watch the series...but maybe not now.
@naomidixon464016 күн бұрын
@@lazyhomebody1356 I love the show, it's my ultimate comfort viewing but I always skip that episode now! It's Season 4 called Die Jerk (appropriate) if you do ever decide to give it a go!
@lazyhomebody135616 күн бұрын
@@naomidixon4640 I couldn't skip an episode, too OCD,lol. I'm sure I'll love the show. I just might keep a little distance from Rory!
@Mockingjay17642 күн бұрын
@@naomidixon4640 I remember she wanted to go to Harvard, but got pressured by her Grandparents to go to Yale.
@AerynKDesigns11 күн бұрын
Maybe a deep cut, but Gwen Cooper from Torchwood forsleeping with her co-worker Owen and then confessing to her boyfriend that she'd cheated and then DRUGGING HIM so he'd forget it and she'd get away with it. And it just... never comes up. She cries, Owen is kinda like ??? for a bit, and then they just move on because Gwen is the creator's favourite character. I *do not care* whatever else she does in the series, she cheated and then manipulated a man that did absolutely nothing wrong (honestly he's a great guy for being as boring as wallpaper paste) and we're just supposed to be fine with it? Owen's a jerk, but he was never painted as anything else until way later. Gwen was always treated as the hero of the show.
@alinamcdonald389226 күн бұрын
I don't know how you can mention Allison without talking about how she literally sexually assaulted Luther. That didn't just make me fall out of love with her-- it nuked her character completely.
@katherinenelson590527 күн бұрын
We feel out of love with Rachel LONG before her leaving the Broadway show. We are sick of her by the time she auditioned for Woopie.
@kaylapounds135913 күн бұрын
I liked Rachel. And did you mean Whoopie?
@beccagregory35865 күн бұрын
I never fell out of love with Rachel because I could never stand her. Her egotistical attitude was annoying and her tantrums were plain childish
@cbushin28 күн бұрын
By season 10, The Office was way past its prime and I was outof love with all the characters anyway. Andy lost his charm a lot earlier than that. He became tired after the Dwight-Andy-Angela love triangle was resolved.
@lazyhomebody135616 күн бұрын
I don't see how everyone never SAYS that! The last 2 seasons were AWFUL.
@unicorn698 күн бұрын
Andy lost his charm for me when he ditched Erin on his sail boat with his brother. Then barely communicated with her in those months. They ruined Andy on that sail boat.
@donnahaynes13828 күн бұрын
On Grey's Anatomy, I really disliked the character Arizona Robbins when she blamed Callie, lash out at her and stopped sleeping with her because Callie agreed to have the doctors amputate her leg to save her life. but then I full-on HATED Arizona Robbins after she cheated on her then-wife Callie Torres with Dr. Lauren Boswell -- in the middle of a storm no less! Whatever happened to her "man in the storm" speech?
@zaniyyahjacobs249928 күн бұрын
I never thought that I would have wanted a character on Grey’s Anatomy to die as much as I wish they would have just killed Alex because I’d take them just knocking him off over them basically throwing away a decade and a half of character development for a character I never liked (Izzy).
@DharianGames15 күн бұрын
Spike's character assassination will forever be the worst character choice for me.
@stevencavanagh799016 күн бұрын
With Ross & Rachael People ignore Rachael's part in their "Brake". It was her Idea. Ross had been telling her for Weeks that her Boss Mark had a thing for her, but she completely dismissed this. Mark would later admit to her that Ross was right, she never admitted this to Ross and let him take all the blame. Also don't forget that Ross didn't just immediately jump into bed with the Other Girl, He phoned Rachael to make sure she was OK, and if she was sure about the break, he only started Drinking at the Bar when he heard Mark in the background at the apartment. and let's not forget how Rachael found out, Gunther, who had a thing with her, we never found out exactly what he told her, and I would guess he embellished some of the story. So, while we should not condone Ross's actions, we should acknowledge that Rachael did little to help the situation.
@sammramos1254 күн бұрын
YES! It always bugs me that people put 100% of the blame on Ross and completely ignore Rachel's part. oh Ross slept with someone hours after, but what about Rachel inviting Mark over within 10 minutes- and trying to force Ross to accept 100% of the blame on the beach trip was absolutely disgusting behavior. She only wanted Ross back at that point so she could hold this over his head for the rest of their relationship
@DeenaSuzanne14 күн бұрын
What they did to Karev irks me NO end. I absolutely hate, hate, hate how they undone the amazing progress he had made. Alex would NEVER do that to Jo
@RickeGnool28 күн бұрын
I was going to say something about Dawson on Chicago Fire but then I couldn't remember a time when she didn't annoy me.
@thatman10313 күн бұрын
They were on a break!!! LOL Seriously though, I have to take Ross' side. Rachel was the one to ignore his warnings about Mark and she was really rude about it too. In the end Ross was right. Everyone ignores that Mark was already with her -- for support, of course -- as soon as she's alone after the fight. Plus, she said MAYBE WE NEED A BREAK. That means we're broken up until I say we're not and everyone knows it. Also, most of us know that that's BS. LOL
@codyhiginbotham661628 күн бұрын
Say what you will about Ross in general and the "We Were on a Break" topic, but Rachel; in general; is far from being any better than Ross
@deansam119 күн бұрын
This!! She called Julie a manipulative bitch when all Julie did was try to befriend Rachel.
@rcmanization23 күн бұрын
very few people fell out of love with Ross because he said "we were on a break". It was a bad move from him, but his character was still really really beloved in the show.
@Spikeluver200318 күн бұрын
Were we ever actually supposed to love Rachel Berry?
@Phanthief9524 күн бұрын
12:57 I never truly hated Nate for doing this. Throughout the first 2 seasons, it was shown that Nate had an inferiority complex, brought about by his father when he was a kid. His dad always made him feel that whatever he did wasn’t good enough, making Nate desperate for his approval & that stuck with him as an adult. I always figured in the third season he would realize the error of his ways & come back around to Ted (which he does).
@julietripp46518 күн бұрын
While I find it gross that Ross slept with someone the same night, he and Rachel broke up he's not wrong. Rachel broke up with him. He's a single dude, and he can sleep with whoever he wants. Rachel shouldn't have broken up with him if she still wanted a say in who Ross got to sleep with. If anyone should have been on your list, it's Rachel. She was bossy and mean.
@annejohnson587528 күн бұрын
I haven’t seen many of these shows, so I enjoy the spoilers.
@georgeprchal392412 күн бұрын
They call Dany the "Mad Queen" yet Cersei was the one who blew up the Sept with wildfyre. Dany was never mad it was just a writing contrivance masquerading as usurping expectations.
@SunnyGirl3107965 күн бұрын
Exactly
@cailahm80673 күн бұрын
And then Cersei getting a boring ass demise at the end of it all on a show infamous for killing off villains with harsh justice smh
@DryBones27128 күн бұрын
Dan is Gossip girl, just like Mona was A.
@PolyBiBadger27 күн бұрын
Mona being A actually made sense but I lost interest when it was like “oh this random side character is A” or “no, I had to be A so I could protect you” was such bs. If they were going to have A be a “team,” at least give a better explanation than what we got
@beccagregory35865 күн бұрын
Mona being A was a good twist to me, but when everyone and their grandmother started being A then it got old
@Jamal-bl7yh28 күн бұрын
AJ Styles From TNA/WWE Joining Ric Flair's Fortune Stable and The Claire Lynch storyline Goddawful
@kamsismith28 күн бұрын
They meant fictional characters. Do you ever read the title before commenting?
@paulondawula101128 күн бұрын
Wasn't Natalie played by Anne Dudek who played Precious on Friends who also got screwed over on her birthday?
@arielfangirlmendez28 күн бұрын
Cmon friends is not a ripped off of how I met your mother
@katymvt15 күн бұрын
I think a better time to start hating Rory is when she slept with a married man.
@sarahserenityqueen11723 күн бұрын
Not surprised number one is GOT We don't talk about season 8
@PolyBiBadger27 күн бұрын
After Allison killed Harlan and when Five had an affair with Lila, his brother’s wife, I immediately tuned out of the series. I think I only stuck around for the end of the series because I wanted to see just how much worse it could get after that. Let’s just say, I rather have the GoT ending than what we got with The Umbrella Academy 😒
@beccagregory35865 күн бұрын
I honestly stopped watching after Alison used her rumor to SA Luther
@Jermbot1511 күн бұрын
"We were on a break" was funnier than "I was destroyed, she comforted me."
@Alexleanne698922 күн бұрын
Dexter super fan here- it’s revealed later in the show that they are actually HALF siblings. THEY SHARED THE SAME DAD. And NO ONE TOLD THEM. So she wasn’t just in love with her adopted brother, she was in love with her BIOLOGICAL HALF BROTHER. 10/10 freaking episode though. They really dug in deep with it Edit: okay so I got my information confused. Harry, Dexter's adoptive father, was only SLEEPING with Dexter's mom and theres no blood relation, just guilt from Harry bc he got Dexter's mom murdered. IT IS STILL WEIRD NONETHELESS as Dex has been in debs life as a brother since she was born, and adopted/taken in 5 years before she was even born
@richrelaxes115416 күн бұрын
Incorrect. Dexter’s biological father was an ex-con and bowling enthusiast, confirmed by blood test.
@Alexleanne698916 күн бұрын
@ oh I totally forgot about that episode! Brian was there dating Debra right? Man I wonder what I’m confusing it with because I swear I saw the episode where it was revealed (very very late into the show) that harry was actually Dexters dad. Maybe I got confused bc harry was sleeping with dexters mom
@arielbenshimol155028 күн бұрын
Idk about you, but I fell out of love with Dan a LONG time before the reveal
@machoman101624 күн бұрын
I hate how people act like Steve was this perfect person..like did we all forget that he cheated on Miranda first in the first movie.
@xenia321522 күн бұрын
And like he wasn’t childish and manipulative in the series 🙄
@sifilore946224 күн бұрын
I really wish Daenerys didn't go mad. In my fan-thoughts of how it should've been. Daenerys still manages to hold onto her sanity when the bell rings. No destruction, and Cersi is locked up forever, knowing she lost everything she sought out for, her entire life. Daenerys lets go peacfully of her feelings for Jon, who is reinstated as King In The North, bc he also abdicated his rights to the iron throne; even becomes trusted allies to eachother.
@ida_sriyaka28 күн бұрын
I was never in love with any of these characters to begin with 😅
@seattlevixen28 күн бұрын
I am ALWAYS. FOREVER. ANGRY. That the BtVS writers did that, not only to Spike, but Buffy as well. Pointless.
@W3Zumba6 күн бұрын
Always disliked Ted and Ross. I am sorry, i did NOT root for their relationships… Rachel and Robin deserved better.
@aimeeradford563528 күн бұрын
Never watched Weeds, but when is this woman gonna realize Pastor Skip is BAD NEWS??
@CutterHistorical28 күн бұрын
I think Emma lost favour on Degrassi when she decided to date Peter who actually made Mannys life terrible in Season 5 and forced Manny to live with Emma
@Omega_X_Factor28 күн бұрын
Emma, Manny, and especially Peter were divisive characters.
@nathaliacardozo21 күн бұрын
Steve is great and all, I love him, don't get me wrong, but people seem to forget he cheated on Miranda first.
@missydehart692027 күн бұрын
I HATED what Grey’s did to Alex. Absolutely HATED IT! His character deserved better. As for Daenerys, my Queen, I get it. I didn’t like it but I get it.
@sammramos1254 күн бұрын
For Friends, I fell out of love with Rachel for how the "we were on a break" went down. everyone focuses on Ross and yes his jealousy was bad and he was insecure, but Rachel was being naive and stubborn and what drove Ross to the copy place girl was the fact that Rachael invited Mark over right after he left- not the fact that they were on a break; he was going to go back to Rachel as soon as he left.. Rachel had too many double standards and expected too much of Ross.
@laurarico120019 күн бұрын
Nothing can make me hate Spike.
@justtooweird17 күн бұрын
I never liked Ross from day 1
@aminsafari1928 күн бұрын
What about Leonerd Hofstader from TBBT? He can be selfish than act like a hero from the movies he watches.
@ZZProductionsVA15 күн бұрын
I’ve never understood how people think Daenerys turned evil quickly. Literally since season 2 she just kept doing more and more brutal and evil things. Yes, the last season was rushed, but not her turn
@lNoWayAroundItl14 күн бұрын
1:47 Claire was her daughter. The worst behavior wasn’t even killing Harlan. The show ruined Allison’s character.
@unicorn698 күн бұрын
Idk why they made her so unlikeable
@animesjogoseseriesclassica828218 күн бұрын
Greys Anatomy loves to bring characters back for special cameos where usually everyone keeps kissing their asses for 40 minutes or so. Something tells me that this will not happen with Alex and Izzy though. Like never. 😂😂😂
@Jo-un9tt22 күн бұрын
Dan was a psychopath. He watched, gossiped, posted, and shared about people he didn't even know for years. He exposed their secrets, shames, and betrayals for their entire high school years and even some college years. He didn't even go to their schools, but he was still blasting about all the dirty secrets.
@florencealidu15307 күн бұрын
he walked so Joe could run lmao
@ruvarasheroselyntogarepi291228 күн бұрын
Did people ever actually like Rachel from glee😂😂😂.
@jessedellross324528 күн бұрын
Felicity from arrow: she demands the city be sacrificed so that Oliver can live Rachel from Friends: s2 where she works to destroy Ross relationship with Julie to an EXTREME scale that screams witch Lily from HILYM: coming back to marshal after breaking his heart and acting like nothing happened. Getting upset when he says they are just friends. Working to sabotage his dates. Taking no responsibility for her actions EVER. Iris from Flash: getting upset with Barry for rightly sending Nora back to the future for lying to them about working with his mortal enemy who killed his mother.
@BrightNeonBrilliancy27 күн бұрын
The Lily thing was always rough for me to rewatch because I love her and Marshall as a couple, and then ofc it's all brought back up again in season 9. I think if they had them be broken up longer it would have felt more natural and earned, but as it was it kinda just got swept under the rug.
@HeyTash23 күн бұрын
i felt this way when dwayne went on that date while he was engaged to whitley - A Different World
@lazyhomebody135616 күн бұрын
Agreeeeeeeeeeee!!
@SpamEggSausage15 күн бұрын
I never liked Whitley.
@rcmanization23 күн бұрын
Alisson was the worst character on Umbrella Academy. That much we knew already in S1 when she rumoured her own kid.... but it's even more obvious when the writers went crazy and had her become a proper murderer
@jackharrington299621 күн бұрын
As an avid Grey's Anatomy fan, I'm still pissed at the writers for throwing away 16 season of character development. Alex was a great character and doctor and I wished he was still on the show and married to Jo
@user-lb9xw4xf2q13 күн бұрын
I'm surprised Walter White wasn't up there. A popular contender was when he let Jane die, although since she was an endless addict, I think she would have always died; the real worse part about the death was when he taunted Jesse about it later. The moment that I turned against Walt was when he murdered Mike out of paranoia he would rat him out to the authorities, even though Mike had no intention of doing so, thus Walt killed him for no reason.
@KyleWillLivingston28 күн бұрын
Ricky Bowen-The moment he decided to join the drama club to ruin his ex-girlfriend's current relationship even though hated musicals in High School Musical: The Musical: The Series
@Blackdragon99omfg23 күн бұрын
Spikes is worse when you realise you could see the emotional turmoil from Buffy and her Gang's abuse building up. Then he goes to fight for his soul. A demon who chose to become a man. KNOWING what Angel suffered. The scene 100% betrays the character, yet I don't think it made him unloved by fans. Its kind of the Cordy treatment. Where Joss' powertripping forced shit in that wouldn't fit to punish actors.
@lazyhomebody135616 күн бұрын
You Buffy fans are more knowledgable than we Angel fans. I always wondered about Cordelia's behavior but never knew about Joss Whedon being a creep,lol
@kinglewis655313 күн бұрын
@lazyhomebody1356 yup that episode made me drop the show for a few seasons. I only came back when it happened to be on and they were working for Wolf Ram & Hart and wondered how that happened
@lazyhomebody135613 күн бұрын
@@kinglewis6553 I'm also thinking, Whedon wrote awful, out of character scenes for Wesley too, and had Fred and Gun break up for no reason except he needed the plot to go in another direction! Oh well, I'll always love Angel
@sneakypenguin286114 күн бұрын
Dana not leaving for college isn't a problem, I decided not to go to University in order to stay in my home city with my boyfriend of 4 months, that was 12 years ago, now we're married with a daughter and I have never once regretted my decision. University doesnt go anywhere, but the right person might if you dont give it the chance.
@BrianWhiting23 күн бұрын
Gossip Girl paved the way for YOU to be more chaotic and problematic
@lazyhomebody135616 күн бұрын
😂😅😊
@Mockingjay17646 күн бұрын
I think Rory went down hill when she slept with her Ex boyfriend, who was married at that time.
@vickiwhite77488 күн бұрын
I didn't like Rosanne after they won the lottery and had Dan cheat on her. The whole it was part of her book didn't make it better either.
@nigelrobinson124114 күн бұрын
When Amber from Invincible told Mark she knew he was a superhero and broke up with him he made her feel dumb.
@JoshHatfield15 күн бұрын
Oh, I didn't realize we were pretending Andrea wasn't unbearable. No one filled me in.
@KHWendy2828 күн бұрын
I don't know but Scott on Teen wolf and most of the cast of the walking dead and yes spike from buffy. But that happens on every tv show that a character mess up badly you fall out of love with them.
@BrainDamage92228 күн бұрын
Ross and Rachel WERE on a break!!!!!
@ZoeyKiritu28 күн бұрын
True but his first instinct was to hook up with another woman. That was horrible
@BrainDamage92228 күн бұрын
@@ZoeyKiritu he was hurting, and he had a long time crush on her b4 Rachel was interested in him.
@LFire1228 күн бұрын
@@ZoeyKiritu He was drunk, and had been dumped by the love of his life. He thought it was over, and was hurting hugely, and responded to someone who actively went after him not the other way around. It's not great, but it's understandable.
@queenlucysroyalmaid118 күн бұрын
Wait wait wait you're telling me that the woman from Weeds, who played Jenna Malone's mother in "Saved!", marries a DEA agent played by the Pastor in "Saved!" Whom she ALSO falls in love with in said film????? That's WILD casting fun.
@emilove794328 күн бұрын
Michael killing Libby and Anna Lucia didn't make me hate him. i understood his desperation to save his son. He wasn't in his right mind and was somewhat brainwashed by the others and promised his son would be safe. I actually ended up sobbing when he came back and tried to redeem himself.