TOP 2ND HAND DUAL CABS UNDER $30K! Hilux vs Ranger vs Triton vs Navara vs BT-50 vs Colorado

[@clinty51]

I'm pretty well over the whole "hold the value" debate. The true value in any vehicle is the experiences you have with it. Load a new vehicle with after market products, you'll never get that money back. Time and time again this very channel has shown that you can take a correctly prepared low budget vehicle to the best parts our great land has to offer the adventurous at heart. If you want a step to the side, choose the Mazda, learn a new platform, truly share new experiences with the consumer. If you want your backyard, just a bit more refreshed, choose the Hilux. Either way, you are Jocko, you are awesome to watch and learn from. Great show young lad 🍻🍻

[@nathanb8721]

I went with a MN Triton because it was cheaper did the usual mods 33'' tyres, lift, diff drop, ect it's surprisingly capable for what it is

[@XsnipxrmainX]

I own a ranger but if I wasn't a ford guy I'd go triton all the way.

[@TheBudgetBoysSr]

I've got an MN 2014 and it has done me wonders. Little bit underpowered but had the ecu tuned and now she flys. Bought it off marketplace last year for 19k and had only done 136 on it. 100% would recommend for people who want a good capible ute that isn't too expensive.

[@danielgraham602]

I can't believe I just spent about 30mins watching these just for jock to pick a hilux. BORNING. Go for something that hasn't been done to death.

[@4WD247]

Haven’t picked a hilux yet - it’s between that and a bt-50 - cheers

[@timothykorner3080]

The Toyota, Nissan, Isuzu show continues... It would be great to see more Tritons, Rangers, BT-50s & Navaras on the show. It used to be good seeing Stu's Triton pop up, as well as see the Rangers on every now and again. IFS is what are mostly used and what most people can relate too, so they should be appearing more on the show. The fact of only seeing the usual Toyota, Nissan and Isuzu on the show, is the reason why I've been watching less and less of the episodes. As well as seeing so many out of reach vehicles on, while good to see them, gets pretty repetitive. Do more in the mid range, where most people are, so that they can see what they can get and how things perform.

[@jimbob3780]

Fax

[@burtoburto4418]

Facts..

[@MothyEmms]

I'm telling you man, they're bought off 🤑🤑

[@timothykorner3080]

@@MothyEmms maybe, maybe not. Would just love to see different vehicles as they do good videos, they just seem repetitive due to using the same brands/models.

[@MothyEmms]

@@timothykorner3080 yep. Hell, even a Mahindra or a GW would be more entertaining than a hilux.

[@danoruhdanuk2647]

I have a 2010 manual mn triton with 200k that I picked up 6 months ago for 14k. Always wanted a hilux but similar year and km models were double the price of the triton (im 21 and simply couldn't afford it). I was hesitant to get a triton at first because of how people in the 4wd community constantly shit on them but I honestly couldn't be happier with it. Tough as nails on the tracks, reliable, comfortable, economical, and its never let me down. I have also never felt as though it is underpowered like Jocko says in this vid.

[@anthonyramdin1037]

It's not underpowered at all, it's just a bit sluggish at times

[@gemmarjhancontayoso298]

I would go with the RC 4JJ1. Strong and reliable engine.

[@lukeburges7487]

I’d love to see a SAS RC4JJ1, would be unstoppable

[@tthiedecke4505]

@@lukeburges7487 mate there's a whole Facebook group full of them. They look sick as

[@JyWalker1603]

I have a 2011 MN Triton. Have never had any mechanical issues with it whatsoever. They are very capabl;e offroad, mine only has all terrain wheels and it's dont some decent wheeling.

[@simmo6035]

No mechanical issues, does that mean other issues?

[@JyWalker1603]

@@simmo6035 well we’ve had stuff through tires before but that’s not the car’s fault, my sister pulled a bit of the side trim off when she was younger, which again isn’t the car. Other than that not really. It’s never had any issues really

[@222tyler]

@@JyWalker1603 how long have you had it

[@JyWalker1603]

@@222tyler since brand new, first and only owners, it was dad’s but he gave it to me when I got my L’s

[@bradleyswift1986]

We have a 2020 Mr Triton just clicked over 100k kms can't fault it gets us everywhere we needed to go would love to see a Triton on channel

[@paddytrihey1189]

Parts aren’t really a problem for the Colorado because it is a dmax with a holden badge… your only challenge may be finding cosmetic things like grills and panels. But the guts are interchangeable between the dmax, rc Colorado, ra and ra7 rodeo

[@mikaela7712]

Plenty of aftermarket cosmetic parts available on ebay and the like 😁

[@koreywilliams4570]

@@mikaela7712 lol I tried fiberglas for the first time and made a custom bumper for my 96 S10 to fit some new headlights. The stock ones were way to dim.

[@peterwilliams8588]

I have an RC Colorado and it’s never missed a beat. Though the reason I chose it was because it’s an Isuzu. When it bird I’ll get an Isuzu.

[@robertday9703]

Grab yourself a triton! The cash you save over the others would go into some pretty decent mods! Jocko is just scared that he might enjoy the dark side too much!

[@jefftaswelder9154]

Go the TRITON as there is a LOT of TRITON drivers out there and we would LOVE to see one on the channel (2007 glx-r 3.2 owner here) 😁👍

[@budget4x4life]

100%🍻

[@shaneball2997]

The 3.2 is the better set up but the uglier one

[@bradleyswift1986]

Would love this also got Mr Triton can't fault it

[@vanderz1012]

@@shaneball2997 been told you don't get Super Select in the 3.2 is that right?

[@timothykorner3080]

@@vanderz1012 apparently late 2008 on ML GLX-R, VR and GLS came with Super Select.

[@jackbruce309]

The parts issue won't exist for the rc because it's an Isuzu dmax essentially.. parts are interchangeable between the two

[@brockeighty]

Was thinking the same, I used to have one, never set foot in a Holden parts store only ever Isuzu because it was half the price for the exact same part.

[@logical_volcel]

thats pretty much spot on, ive got an ra7 which is the earlier skinned collie, isuzu parts are about half the price of the ones for holden

[@jonah3543]

I know right. I have an RG Colorado and even though it’s a different motor, the rest is still an Isuzu which means parts are cheap and interchangeable. Plus my RG push’s a lot of power with just a snorkel and exhaust and the which the motor being very similar to the Silverado motor and even the same as found in some jeeps (after jeep bought out the design) I’m not around about parts plus word from is that they are a pretty reliable motor on par with the 4JJ1.

[@kyleburrage9774]

They clearly didn't do much research into after market support from them

[@logical_volcel]

@@kyleburrage9774 c'mon, I knew they wouldn't do any research into these,

[@ADJU-A]

Love my Triton, 35’s custom made control arms with 3.5” suspension lift/2” body lift (I could actually come down some if I wanted) custom gearing for the 35’s super select box with rear locker and some nice power tweaks such as tune and custom exhaust! (As well as many other mods) It eats everything here in the UK and has taken us touring/off-roading through Europe! Highly recommend

[@astrixistheman]

End of last year I ended up getting a 2014 triton. It may look like it's from 2005 inside but it's been great so far and surprisingly capable off-road. Downsides i've found are the suspension is a bit all over the shop and also the engine is a bit sluggish (easily fixed with a throttle controller though). If i had to choose again I would definitely still go for the triton, very reliable and capable. It would be great to see more tritons on the show, everyone knows that the hulix can do it. I would love to see if a triton can survive what you guys throw at it and what problems arise from being a cheaper car.

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

It’s funny because I must have a thing with crappy interiors, but I really like the look of Falcon B series interiors and MN interiors 😂

[@astrixistheman]

​@@howtofixyourtech9945 There is somthing to be said about how simple they are. I dont have to go though settings to disable some stupid I-stop or other controll.There is so few features i can have a button for everything 🤣. Seems durable to. Though the only thing that aint lasting is my driver side seat stiching. It seems to be tearing when i get out, I think its a common problem. Next upgrade is deffinaly seat coveres. I looked up the B series falcons interiors, they acauly look good i agree.

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

@@astrixistheman haha gotta agree with you. Some people just reckon that the Falcon interiors are tacky and outdated. When my dad had one I thought it looked really decent and the seats are great. Reason being everyone wants to put xr6 seats in 4 wheel drives now

[@chadjames109]

I've got a MN Triton and with a 40 mm lift and 265/75/16's I haven't had a problem with it . Just keep your servers up . I'd go anywhere and everything in it just up graded to a 50mm lift bullbar and winch .

[@ausoff-road7795]

Got a 2013 MN triton twin locked, 3” lift 33s and it’s perfect for touring, daily and most tuff tracks. Fairly short list of hard gazetted tracks haven’t done in mine in Vic.

[@AdmissionGaming]

Triton are bad and unreliable, least hilux is good and reliable.

[@sloppps]

How have the drive shafts held up in the front with the locker?

[@ausoff-road7795]

@@sloppps having no issues with front locker and CVs. Has so much traction i dont need to flog it to climb rocks or steep hills. Have done that “Triton Hill” Shauno and half the crew had to winch on. Mates got 36s with reduction gears and twin locked and also doesn’t snap CVs but we both have 3” lift with a proper diff drop and camber correction UCA’s from Karrman 4x4. Flat CVs on 605mm centre hub to flare

[@ausoff-road7795]

@@AdmissionGaming what are you smoking? Ive had my MN for 4 years and go wheel it hard every second weekend and have proof on my own channel.. Hilux requires body mount chop just to fit 33s which i can fit stock haha. Also Hilux had injector/piston issues and lots going around with the clock wound back/ex mine vehicles people lie about. Also no proper diff drop kit to get CVs healthy at 3” lift. Also cant put reductions gears in a n70 transfer, also n70 sr doesn’t even have cruise control (povo as fk)

[@AdmissionGaming]

@@ausoff-road7795 they are very unreliable my friends broke just reversing from his driveway

[@TheGuruGob]

Tritons have always been kickarse, under rated

[@lovemypajero]

I have a mate with the Triton, I have a Gen2 Pajero diesel with lockers and reduction gears, he takes his triton everywhere I take the Pajero. Sometimes he is even towing a camper trailer and makes it look easy. My next choice for a 4X4 will be Triton hands down.

[@hubertthong7405]

Mine's a 2010 Triton (Auto) 2 inch lift, bullbar with winch. AT 31" tyres. Daily driver with muddy weekends. Engine rebuild at 300K. Good car. Would love to see a nice specimen joining the Boys to Crofts or the Tele

[@AdmissionGaming]

Hilux wouldn't of needed a rebuild

[@caseystanley7092]

How many kms since the rebuild and how far did you go with the rebuild, with regards to internals ect Hubert? Is it a 2.5 or 3.2? Cheers 🍻

[@jamesgillam6478]

Would loveeee to see a Triton on 4wd-24-7 😍 Mines tuned, twin locked, 3" lift, 33's, goes up most things I point it at!

[@Jimmy23f]

Go the collie! As a holden colorado owner myself, the 4x4 is great at towing and has endless amount of space. As a manual driver it gets you from A to B in a heartbeat

[@acquiringcompletion]

2nd that 👏

[@NQTouring]

3rd that 👏

[@88TitanCW]

I have my 2012 BT50 duel cab on some 33" R/T tyres, winch bar, 12000lb winch, aftermarket front locker, factory rear locker, 3" stainless exhaust and 2" lift. And I can honestly say that my BT50 runs with all the big builds in the 4x4 club. They are so capable and fun to drive with all the basic luxuries you need to drive in style. The BT50 will be my first choice and then the Nissan.

[@mikeypickett1981]

With the other vehicles in the 4wd24/7 stable being Nissan or Toyota, adding another vehicle from those stables would feel a little disappointing? I would love to see what you can do with a BT50 - but your money! I’ll watch either way lol

[@Dav963]

Could not agree more

[@felzy8800]

Agreed seeing a BT-50 in the convoy would be great. I just bought one and I'm keen to see what you would do with it. 👍

[@ExpatonTwoWheels]

I own a Ranger and really like it. With all the Toyotas and Nissans, I was hoping they would do a Ranger or BT50 as well.

[@jymonfernandez8087]

100% I love my BT50 and I really hope he gets one similar

[@jimmyjimmy1320]

Can't frighten a Triton

[@simonhams3900]

My choice would be Triton. For the simple reason that even though your restricted by suspension they can still go anywhere. Great video, can't wait to see what you choose.

[@shawsie5780]

Triton couldn’t pull the skin of a rice custard

[@simonhams3900]

@@shawsie5780 neither could your mother.

[@Shane-hp2mv]

@@shawsie5780 Never heard that one before 🥱

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

@@Shane-hp2mv no one has😂

[@AndyViant]

@@tom6549 Torsion bars are funny. Even though they don't flex as much they tend to pick wheels up OVER obstacles, often clearing things that stuff like 80 and 100 series cruisers can't... Flex isn't the be all and end all off road some people think it is, especially with twin lockers. Plus you can buy a much later model much cheaper, but more aftermarket parts, get more power, more reliability and more fuel economy.

[@chrisriley8184]

I would really love to see a BT-50 build, Everyone is doing Hilux's and 79's and even Rangers to an extent but I agree with the comment about them being underated. Fingers crossed its not another hilux build

[@Jacobtheunwise]

Probably cause the old bt 50s are just rangers and the new ones are just dmaxs

[@perth7930]

They look like a jacked up mazada cx9

[@Jacobtheunwise]

@@perth7930 the cx9s pnly have 10mm lower ground clearance than a landy. They might aswell build one of them lol

[@martindallen9068]

@@perth7930 look like a chopped CX9

[@stevenbest1550]

I agree mate.

[@rangover6669]

Go the RC Colorado. Yes the suspension is a bit dated but the reliability is amazing on them engines. Nice to see some different rigs on the channel. Nice vid Mate 👍.

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

Seems like Triton has the win in the comments section and I totally stand for it.

[@MJMAC]

Think you'll find the general consensus on d40's is that the spain built are the better ones and the 140kw engine's are way more reliable.

[@dredd120]

Agreed

[@brendonparker3764]

Agreed

[@nickpresland8956]

In the uk we have had issues with them snapping in half due to corrosion models years 2005 to 2008 have you had the same in Australia ?

[@MJMAC]

@@nickpresland8956 not from corrosion. Most of the makes tritons, navaras, rangers etc have issues with chassis bending due to overloading and towing heavy camper trailers/caravans etc

[@unholyninja93]

Oath love my 140kw

[@adamskinner4863]

I would love to see a Triton on the channel just purely to see a different Ute being used. Be great to see what you could do with it and something we could look at ourselves. Already heaps of Nissans and Toyota’s go the Triton.

[@ADanDnBDubstep]

Go a triton, they've got an aftermarket kit from karmann for UCAS and/or diff drop that allow a 3-4 inch lift, and they easily take 35s (many people run them with no issues). Strong driveline and a tune sorts the engine power issue. Love my MN and would love to see one on the channel for inspiration

[@jarrod1687]

LMAO dude you bought the wrong car if you're putting 35's and four inch lift on a soccer mum car with a tray

[@ADanDnBDubstep]

@@jarrod1687 I haven't champ, just saying it's possible. I run a 2 inch lift and 32s myself.

[@Jacobtheunwise]

@@jarrod1687 buddy literally every dual cab ute is a soccer mum car..

[@budget4x4life]

Nooooo Jocko, I would've looked at the 3.2 Triton. More cable engine and chassis and way cheaper than an n70...we want to see something else rather than Nissan or Toyota💯🙂

[@rextimmy]

Yes the ML Triton with the 3.2, the MN triton (especially the early ones) are ticking time bombs, the problem with them is a lot worse than what jock mentions in the video, the block has manufacturing defect(which leads to the over heating problems) and Mitsubishi are still replacing them (generally with a long motor) even to this day under good faith warranty if you have one with a good service history. Buyer beware

[@gbuzztard]

No it doesn't. You are talking about the 2.5 diesels in the later models.

[@rextimmy]

No i am talking about the MN model, the machining on the block is too coarse, the head gasket doesn't always seal properly, this is where the overheating problem originates from@@gbuzztard

[@jcd2403]

100% go with the Triton, there's plenty of Hilux on here already.

[@jeandredelange4266]

I've got the 2014 MN triton, not much done to it, but I've kept up with mates in lifted hiluxs that run a 3 in lift with 35s. And had to recover them afew times too. Loads of power behind the 2.5L TD engine.

[@anthonyramdin1037]

It is a quite powerful engine stock

[@jasonnies6060]

I really think you should of given a Triton ago. I would love to see you guys do something different.

[@nickpresland8956]

A full on buld with a MN Triton would be good

[@comptoncivil5877]

Would really like the see a colorado on 4wd 24/7. Can’t remember the last time i’d seen one wheeling in one of these videos. But me personally i would get the rc colorado anyday

[@curtisdavis1983]

MQ Triton, forever underestimated, surprise everyone Jocko and park an MQ in your shed I got mine for $27 with 78000kms on it.

[@Shane-hp2mv]

Got a 2016 MQ Triton glx+ as my first personal use 4x4 last year, just on 32" ATs. Was under 30k. I find the electronics pretty cheap and the manual box + the lag is pretty annoying sometimes, especially on extemely long drives, as it feels more underpowered than it is, but a throttle controller and tune solves that easy enough and isn't too expensive. Other than those small negatives, it runs excellent off-road imo and I'm confident it'll tour anywhere I want for the next few years, especially after I upgrade the suspension. I don't do much heavy 4x4ing, because I usually tour alone and pack her full of weight, but I've done a lot of deep sand and steep dunes without any ruts to follow recently and she ran like a dream. Personally, I couldnt justify paying the difference between a cheaper Triton and the more expensive utes for my personal needs and I doubt I'll need to upgrade for a long while yet. The used Triton is more than reliable enough to get me anywhere I want until I feel like something new. Hope this info helps someone.

[@Br3no94]

Triton for sure, bt50 close second the unlikely hero’s that would bring some variety to the episodes for sure

[@pullingguard1527]

Love these videos from the Jockster, let’s get a bit more of him with these sorts of videos, he’s such a great, honest personality and explains everything so clearly.

[@vanzym8]

People need to start respecting Mitsubishi, they’ve always made great, reliable cars that are good value for money. The only thing that lets them down is their ability to be heavily modified, which is definitely a deal breaker for true off-roaders, but if you need a car for touring etc you can’t beat em

[@jamezxh]

I still have a NA Shortie . Its a Beast

[@welshy2126]

Go triton, something different for the crew, u guys done a comparison video of all the cars years ago amd triton was third, do something other then a Isuzu and hilux getting abit old

[@dolguldur4706]

No no no..not mitsubishi 😆😆 its just Toyota,or Nissan 😆

[@Sickedits-2021]

Yes triton

[@grego4835]

Triton are rough to drive, I hated mine. You would literally skip sideways off a corrugated road.

[@tyzon00800]

Shitboxes

[@killerdome666]

Got one and it has dpf issues. Cleaned the intake manifold, changed dpf. Still shit

[@ktmhaka]

I picked up my 2017 Triton GLX+ dual cab with 56k kms for $24000. Great base to start with for doing up a weekend tourer and will probably still come out cheaper than a stock high kilometre hilux. Go the Triton Jock! 👌

[@Malc664]

How long ago was that? It's a good buy.

[@ktmhaka]

@@Malc664 May 2020 just as Covid was hitting and Carsales were stalling in Australia, not long after couldn’t get one in that condition for under 35k!

[@astrixistheman]

@@ktmhaka I dont belive that for a second 😲. I was looking at the market for a year and a half, thought i did well for a 2014 for $24k. Though during pandemic i guess. Good snatch mate.

[@imm6481]

4d56 2.5 DiD is quite solid to me. I drove the Mitsubishi from Brisbane up to Port Douglas with side trips on the dirt and back down to Mt Isa then ended up to NT during my holiday with loose bolts on the camshaft!!!, It survived, the motor is noisy and noticeable vibrations during acceleration then finally we completed the journey, arrived in top end safe, the following day we do check and open the camshaft cover and it shows hanging camshaft clamp! We though that the camshaft bends but its not! I am a big fun of Toyota but Mitsubishi proves tome that it is also reliable and strong engine on the road.

[@isaacb5807]

Rc colorado for sure,cant beat the 4jj1 👌

[@toddavis8151]

I have a 2014 challenger which is essentially a MN Triton, and it hasn’t let me down yet

[@LudwigsPrecision]

Would go for the Triton. Length in the rear, chop it for a better decent angle, looses a bit of space but. That gearing is sweet so for daily, work, weekend and harder its worth the hassel with the suspension. relatively easy on parts, often good price. And face it, you'll change up all either way. just for the gearbox I would go with the triton to match most boxes

[@Uppaah]

These are the best type of videos Jocko does! Not trying to be funny and just talking info 👍

[@sopadebronha]

I would go with the Triton. I have a 2013 3.2 Triton Gls that I bought in 2019 for a price way cheaper than any of its counterparts of same age and its been serving me really well either on my daily farm work or out in the trails and off-road events around here in Brazil.

[@jackbrady9001]

N70 all the way, had mine for 6.5years now, brought it with 90,000ks done 245,000. Never let me down, replaced timing belt at 150,000 along with alternator and that's it. Goes everywhere I've ever wanted to go! Some people say it's luck, I say it's Toyota!

[@TheAussieFloof]

I initially got a Triton because I was simply sick of hearing about and seeing Hilux's and cruisers, Not that I hate them but it's always Toyota this Toyota that, gotta be a Toyota. So I got the MN Triton and my family and friends were shocked lol I had the car for 5 years before heading to the dealer and picking up a MQ and another 5 years later and I did it again for an MR GSR, I had no major issues with the previous 2 and the current one is only up to 30,000kms so far so touch wood lol I actually like the 'Decepticon' look of the MR, looks better with the iron man bullbar i got I honestly would love to see something different, doesn't have to be a Triton but anything but a Toyota, I really don't watch this show much anymore because it's all we ever see nowadays

[@patrickgrimaldi5790]

Up the triton. Yeah would love to see some different cool rigs on their trips not just a bunch of 79s boring as

[@ArbyCreations]

The Triton MR is only impressive in one way to me, they managed to take the ugly as heck MN and make an even uglier replacement in the MR! It takes some real effort to get something like that right!! :)

[@the510wagon]

I reckon the MR is one of the best looking, aggressive styled utes ever designed.

[@brendangregory6829]

Ive never owned a ute and always had wagons but long before your vid i had a soft spot for the Mazda and this information confirms it for me. Bt50 all the way 😉

[@Khaos_1325]

Its crazy to think these utes are pushing 30k at the moment. I bought a brand new 2019 BT 50 Auto with TJM bar and 32 inch tires for 43k drive away (Dual Cab 4x4). Hard to imagine paying 30 k for a 12 year old one pushing 150k plus on the clock. Best second hand ute to buy now is none till the car world calms down a bit. Before covid I seen Tritons and Colorado's like that selling for 15k.

[@ZawhTM]

i got my colorado for 4.5 3 years ago

[@bigchief2331]

exactly mate, boggles the mind, 30k for these clapped out things is an absolute joke, i'd rather stump up and get a brand new top of the line musso for 45k on the road (i still wouldn't do that, buying new cars is STUPID.. loose too much). Wake me up when the used car market stabilises. 30k should buy you a top of the line dual cab a few years old in mint condition..

[@Jacobtheunwise]

@@bigchief2331 buying new cars is definitely not stupid. If you're going to keep it you're better off. That way you have warranty and you know that its actually been serviced

[@bigchief2331]

@@Jacobtheunwise what a load of codswhallop mate! You lose 10% just driving out the door, then about 4-5k a year after that. Rather buy a good quality second hand car that has been looked after and service either myself or with a trusted independent mechanic. Warranty?? Your paying for it in the new price

[@Jacobtheunwise]

@@bigchief2331 you clearly have no idea how the second hand market is right now. I bought a 4x4 hilux in 2018 for 40k thats now worth 50k. How is that a loss at all....

[@johnhannonHanno]

I love the knowledge you share. My vehicle would be the Triton. We have a 2002 Pajero and doors close easily and have a solid sound, there is over 300,000ks on the clock.

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

Yeah agree. Our 2000 MK Triton also has barely any issues with almost 400k on the clock.

[@Tasfarmer]

Mitsubishi for the win I have gen1 Pajero

[@allanmaccaul1465]

Mitsubishi all day..👍👍

[@AdmissionGaming]

Triton very unreliable, 300,000km i don't see my friend break his by turning engine on. Maybe 300,000km is read back to front my friend.

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

@@AdmissionGaming what

[@care8209]

love the vid as always. go the triton but in the ml with the 3.2 ltr. would love to see because they are so common. keep up the good work.

[@detectivemarvel8036]

The Triton would be a good watch on this channel, something different than everything else we see day to day on KZbin. Show us how its done in a Triton brother🤙🏽

[@alberttresslevic914]

My 2017 work BT50 blew a torque converter at 70k, now at 88k transmission warning light has come on. No towbar, bugger all off-road, just 31" A/Ts

[@nickpresland8956]

Brilliant video! I am on my second Triton L200 here in the uk and your right on with the lack of power and other comments but I live with it being on a limited budget grate for towing and light off road as stock Unfortunately here in the uk they do anything to try to prusude you not have a 4x4 and things like towing mirrors which I have being trying to get hold of for ages are virtually impossible to find. Keep em coming ..

[@MrEnglischjules]

i have just done body lift (this morning started yesterday). on my Pajero gen 2 2.8 td,but yes here in England everyone complains if you have a 4x4.. I still have to work on my mid 90s Delica, welding etc and while there is a cult following as such, and 4x4 groups.... generally not liked who own them lol

[@ulehuleh]

Good video mate. A few things i believe are worth mentioning - The bt50 and Ranger commonly split intercooler cores not just hoses, inlet manifolds are 100%plastic, they carbon up very heavily and can split, egr coolers fail fairly commonly also and it is an engine out job to fix, the 6R80 auto trans are notorious for the clutches thumping and shuddering and failing, they are a tough looking rig that ticks alot of boxes but they are mechanically terrible. Also with the RC colorado or the RA rodeo which breifly had the 4JJ1 in its later years (07 & 08) it is actually entirely a TF DMAX, all engine and driveline parts are easily available from ISUZU and are actually cheaper from ISUZU then holden because you are going straight to the source

[@grantlouw3182]

Triton with it’s superior 4wd system is definitely the best option. It’s ridiculous that other brands don’t offer a similar system with the ability to run 4wd hi with locked or unlocked centre diff as conditions dictate.

[@dandretube]

new ranger will have it

[@Ban00dle]

Please go the Triton, but the ML 3.2 model. A better engine in every way than the 2.5 in the MN and a stronger suspension/chassis too.

[@Bekkies17]

The 4M41 is a great reliable engine, my 3.2 has 320 000km on and has never skipped a beat. The 4D56 is far from being unreliable tho and is a great engine aswell economical to, and the problems Jocko mentions isn't nearly as commom as they make it out to be

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

@@Bekkies17 it’s funny because my nans MJ has the 4d56 as well and has done 380000km but obviously much older. One of my friends has an MN and got unlucky with a dud engine. Thankfully she got a new engine for nothing though.

[@jkzook89]

I have a 2006 MK Triton as my daily 664,000 kms still going strong!

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

@@jkzook89 that’s amazing! Is it the 3.0 V6 or the 2.8 TD?

[@jkzook89]

@@howtofixyourtech9945 2.8TD

[@jymonfernandez8087]

I really hope you go for a BT50. I love mine to bits and have had no issues with it! I’ve done a Fraser trip, fitted a new tray and canopy, done suspension lift, spotties, winch. All with no issues or hiccups. I’ll be stocked to see a BT in the convoy if Jocko does get one

[@DW-10]

MN Triton gets a vote from me. That super select transmission is amazing and the sole reason we upgraded our MN to a MR rather than any of the other options. Other benefits of the MN is that it runs 3.9 diffs in the auto. The MR auto runs 4.27, making what should be a straight forward swap to get better final drive ratios with bigger tyres given the MR is a facelifted MQ/MN/ML in terms of chassis and basic drive line. If the tub is an issue, keep an eye out for a ML tub. Same shape body but the tub is shorter. Downside of a MN could be the “weaker” auto variant that required a de tune to 350Nm and the smaller 245/75r17 tyres if that limits how big you can go.

[@dereknelson2084]

Good video jocko!! I will say I've only ever owned hiluxes 12 in fact!!! But I must say I brought a 2021 ranger and I could not be happier, I am not a extreme 4wder but do heaps of camping, touring mountain hunting and I cannot fault 1 thing with the ranger, I love it 👍

[@Gravelbeard1]

BT-50 would be my choice. The draw backs didn't seem as severe as with some of the others and honestly it's a good looking rig with some bar work on it.

[@dkelly6492]

Greatgvm too

[@chriswalker499]

I love my N70 hilux. My brother has a Challenger(wagon model of the triton) and I have driven both. I find with the hilux it delivers the power in the more linear way and it is not relying on the turbo as much for normal power. I find the interior of the hilux feels more refined and the seats are more comfortable. I also find the steering wheel in the Challenger is a bit small for my liking. I find the Hilux is a bit more pleasant to live with.

[@travisjune9347]

I cannot agree with this more, I’ve owned a triton and I have an N70 now. N70 has power on tap when you push your foot down, my triton used to struggle with power until the turbo kicked in.

[@chriswalker499]

@@travisjune9347 on paper or the Dealers lot the triton/Challanger is better. But living with day to day the Hilux wins hands down. Things like the shift knobs and driving stalks are where you would put your hands. Everything seems to make more sense in the hilux. things like being able to properly grip the wheel and use the cruse control.

[@rpmurphey1981]

I would go with the bt50. Price, customization and towing capacity seem to be a little better compaired to the hilux and the triton. I wouldn't go with the triton at all because of the front suspension setup. Between the bt50 and the hilux my deciding factor would be price. Bt50 will save some bucks that you can use for mods.

[@sailingcitrinesunset4065]

I drive a 2022 BT50 at work and I personally think its over priced.

[@samueldelaney9929]

@@sailingcitrinesunset4065 totally different car

[@MC4WD]

Get the bt bro, I’ve got one with 362xxx hard offroad ks and I’ve only had to replace the slave cylinder and oil cooler, very good bang for buck

[@delta3eight]

The first 7 minutes is all you need to watch. If you want more than a 2 inch lift you should be going with a car with a solid axle I guess. I’ve got a 07 ML Triton and it’s never let me down

[@MD-np2me]

Hilux you can't go wrong, I have had mine since brand new 2008 and still going strong.

[@dunnetw]

Triton or Mazda!! Would be cool to see something different

[@brentj_]

BT50 easy choice! -Factory rear diff lock on all models -33" fit with no suspension modification -3200kg GVM -3500kg towing -470nm stock -Good value $$$ -Plenty of aftermarket stuff due to the popular sister Ford Ranger

[@FJaypewpew]

i got a 2007 rodeo with the 4jj1 with 238kkms on it for 8 grand, needed new tyres and rego so bump it up to 10k ish bodys in pretty rough nick but so far its going fine, no idea if the RC's have any more tech or a better driveline or anything but i just got it for the engine only trouble ive had was it going into limp due to a what i thought was, bad MAP sensor, turns out the wiring itsself had a dodgy ground or something the auto sparky said he just pulled it out and straigtened it up, screwed her down and its been great ever since

[@wynandhendrinafourie9589]

If it was me and I had choose, I would definitely take the Triton. Mitsubishi has always been the underdog in many people eyes. The Triton Ute/truck/bakkie (in South African terms) can really stand it's own against the likes of toyota, Nissan, Isuzu & Ford and so on. It would be really cool to see a MN Triton in the fleet. Yes it has its issues but is easy fixable with some after markets products. 2' Lift, set of 33's, 50mm body lift, (front lockers optional) and you can go anywhere. Plus you would have some $$$$$$ to kit out the Triton with some very nice aftermarket goody's

[@Lakeyboy12]

Would love to see you buy, build and wheel a triton.

[@brocktovar4523]

Awesome! You guys are probably the best off road channel out there right now. This video like all of yours is just full of raw information taken from YEARS of experience. Spot on

[@bradyhartt]

Coming from an owner of one, the price for N70s now is insane. They're a great car and I love mine, but realistically I wouldn't buy one in this market. Had it for 2 years and it has literally doubled in value. Still love it too much to sell though.

[@AdmissionGaming]

They are literally the best dual cab, triton is horrible and unreliable. The only thing that comes close is a Ford ranger

[@c33jp]

Sell it and get and get into a quicker RC

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

@@AdmissionGaming tritons are better

[@AdmissionGaming]

@@howtofixyourtech9945 yes they are better at breaking now

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

@@AdmissionGaming have a think about where the unbreakable Hilux was made and where the shitty new ones are made. The unbreakable Hiluxes were made in Japan where the also unbreakable Honda Civic is made and best of all the Triton! I don’t know where you are coming from with the fact they are unreliable unless you have a friend that drove his into the ground. Japanese utes are far superior than all the other utes that are Taiwanese utes. To be fair the Colorado is good, but the Japanese utes have always been better. Even Jocko who likes Hiluxes the most said it! I would like to hear where you heard that Tritons were unreliable comes from.

[@jmracing7776]

Mazda bt50 I’ve owned the previous Mazda bravo for 6 years and the bt50 is the way I went and my mate in his 80 series can’t keep up just get a 2” lift 33”tyres and twin lock you will go everywhere

[@emersonwatts9508]

Out of the three I reckon the BT -50 hands down! Something different to the Hilux and better looking than the Triton.

[@Blueythebudgie]

Just had to get the drivers side ac door actuator replaced on my 2013 BT. The bloke who did it used to work for Mazda and said it is/was a very common warranty job even after only 18 months from new. Tried to do the job myself but after many cuts and curses (and nearly breaking my phone screen!) I had to hand it over to the professionals due to it's near impossible accessibility. Only real bonus was that you can get them from Ford over the rip-off price from Mazda. Key thing to note also is that the dash does not need to be removed to do it despite the pain involved. Post warranty, Mazda used to charge around $850. I got it done for $99 plus the replacement actuator for $55. Will get onto the after market trans cooler, thanks for the tip!

[@chaijackson]

Mine is starting now from the passenger side. Might go to ford then 😂 not Mazda

[@Blueythebudgie]

@@chaijackson Haven't done it yet but I think passenger side is much easier to access. Yep Ford def cheaper.

[@coreyfish7022]

Just sold my MN GLXR and it was a great car! Such a underrated little rig, new troopy is a lot more fun though

[@briandp9535]

As soon as the vid started I knew you'd put the Hilux up there even though it's a bit of a dinosaur. A BT50 would be wicked. Better yet, do a hardcore build on some bottom of the barrel utes and test the hell out of them. I'm talking the Foton Tunland, Great Wall, anything of the like, and really show what these budget Chinese rigs are/aren't capable of.

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

I wouldn’t bother. They just suck

[@sloth_e]

Dont promote Chinese rubbish. I

[@jamezxh]

I Reckon they would surprise a lot of people

[@Rickyd615]

Go ML model Triton. 4M41 goes alright. The MN you were looking at have a timing belt rather than a chain. Something different.

[@hpvanheerden3476]

The D40 should receive more credit than given and deserves a relook. The YD25 is bulletproof and has been part of the Nissan stable for two decades. Down here in SA the YD25 remains part of the Navara family due to its reliability in these tough, proofing African conditions.

[@jamberoobigsplah924]

Without even watching this I bet he chooses the hilux

[@AdmissionGaming]

Hilux very good and reliable, it is the smart choice. Triton bad and unreliable, you can break them by just turning on the engine sometimes my friend said.

[@anthonyramdin1037]

I guessed it too

[@craigexaustralia7147]

Fitting airbags can cause the chassis bending problem as the bags push above the diff rather than back at the spring shackles. Best to upgrade the leaf springs instead.

[@crustyjusty7]

I had the MQ 2.4 Triton, found it a bit laggy off the line. Maybe a tune would sort that? I find the 3.2 better for low down torque. Also would recommend a rear steel bar with underside protection bars. That long rear overhang gets belted off-road.

[@norm1kath]

Love to see you modify a Triton. Nothing Frightens a Triton

[@4x4pickupadventures]

Would love to see more Tritons out on your trips! Keep up the awesome content 👍

[@kobidekeulenaer1305]

End of 2020 I bought a 2005 hilux with 200km on it for 20k w/ rwc. Came with some pretty decent fruit like custom steel tray, bullbar, winch and a 2" lift. Honestly considering the market and what else was available im very happy and its an absolute rig

[@DownLeftUpRight.]

100% would go with the Triton 👌

[@krump743]

Jock delivering the best "tech talk" videos on the channel. I could listen to him talk tech stuff all day long dude really knows his stuff. No homo 😂😂

[@vanderz1012]

While the RC Colorado 4JJ1 is quite good I do prefer the RG. That 2.8 diesel makes 500nm and it's the same Cummins 2.8 found in the American Colorado so its decently reliable. Dunno if the RC has that same G80 in the back as the RG. It is a locker but an auto locker so it locks up only when it needs to

[@mattt83]

It's not the Cummins 2.8

[@Curlsy]

The rg Colorado's are trash. It's a fiat engine branded as a duramax. They also don't hold their value at all because no one wants one.

[@joshburke4083]

2.8L is crap, reknown for blowing piston rings and their transmissions are garbage. imo the RC and Dmax takes a 💩 on the RG!

[@vanderz1012]

Didn't know this thanks for the warnings

[@Curlsy]

@@vanderz1012 if I were you I'd save ya pennies a bit and buy a dmax

[@johnnumbat9782]

I owned many Subarus before deciding on a 4WD so Toyota was the obvious choice for a reliable vehicle like my Subarus - I got a pre-DPF 2010 auto diesel Hilux dual cab with 240k kms for $18200 nearly five years ago in immaculate condition and now just touched 300k kms - the auto and injectors will need servicing and I do my own filters/oil change every 5k kms - no issues at all and even comes with cruise control, ABS, all window/side mirror electrics and aircon - now looking at minor rear suspension leaf upgrade to accomodate new fully equipped aluminium canopy setup - running steel Sunraysia rims with ‘truck’ Yokohama Geolandar A/Ts which have very little wear, are quiet and great in the rain and off-road - coincidently new Subarus come factory fitted with Yokohama Geolandars.

[@jamienothdurft736]

I have been a fan of 4wd 24/7 and it is starting to annoy me that the don’t have other brands like Mazda Mitsubishi Ford if it dose not have a Toyota Nissan or a dmax badge then don’t expect to see it here but I will still watch but would love to see a triton or a bt50 and either of them would show up the big name 4x4s

[@cameronembrey2389]

Jocko the overheating problem was a block casting issue. Mitsi are replacing engines on goodwill

[@bigrokadventures]

Got an Amarok 2 inch lift 33s and other basic supporting mods, goes everywhere others do even with no transfer case, but you can always go a manual that has a low range too! Be good to see you guys go outside the normal

[@delman5326]

The amarok dosnt get enough love on this channel

[@bigrokadventures]

@@delman5326 sure doesn't just to the auto not having a transfer case, but if you own one and do some trip in them you soon come to realise how capable they are

[@ExpatonTwoWheels]

In the long run, a VW is going to cost a lot more to own and the aftermarket support isn't there like the others.

[@THEROADSMITH]

@@ExpatonTwoWheels why is that. Servicing cost is the same parts are the same price. Almost no dpf and egr issues. What’s making them dear?

[@THEROADSMITH]

@@delman5326 the info on this channel is only loosely based on facts

[@ethanjarrett5700]

I have a 2004 Ford Courier, never ever seen one on 4WD24/7. I know they're old but they're a fairly reliable 4x4, of course they're notorious for over heating but I've never had that problem with the correct cooling system. My courier had been very well looked after, and has 180,000kms and still runs beautifully. Still has the original WLAT 2.5L Turbo Diesel engine in it.

[@MrLollegends]

I think you should of gotten the mn triton I have one with 2" lift, 33's, bullbar, snorkel, canopy, dual battery and 3" exhaust I love it really reliable

[@maverick2242]

Hillux all the way, had both MT and AT in the N70, never had any issues, I know others have, the only weakness re the AT vs MT is fuel mileage drops significantly esp if loaded in the AT, some might not care but that’s the let down in the Auto, MT were known to be weak, but I never had an issue, towed trailers caravans very loaded and a lot of dirt bikes, mths and off road gear, at the time, bought mine both brand new and while definitely took off road did some high country trips but esp ironically the Auto I did allot of forestry work and carried allot of gear chainsaws, wood, logs, telephone poles if ai could build with it I carried it on the Lux. I carried a complete deck I removed on the roof of that rack into the forest, and I had that completely stock, no lockers middle of winter, stock rims with Maxxis ATs in deep forest where only bikes could get and many would come across me working on tracks saying how the fck did you get that in here and hell the how are you getting out, had some hairy moments I won’t lie and thought I’d lose my truck or roll over a few times, but a clear head no panic and use some brain meant I always got out without damage or even pin stripes, drive smart it’s amazing what you can do, btw I was on my own, no one else for back up spotting or recovery, looking back at times think it was a bit unsafe but I prepared and made the best decisions possible for the situation. Also if anyone wants to see what can be done with a N70 look no further than Kaino’s N70 from Drifta, I’d buy one again in a heart beat, a,so it’s a Ute, I hate this modern day bs of comfort crap and 50 cup holders style of reviews, it’s a truck it’s not meant to be a Bentley inside, I’d throw in some Stratos seats mud grabber floor mats, rip out the back seats and drive it like I stole it, btw you forgot to mention the options many of these utes offer, Dual Cab, King Cab/Extra cab some might call em, or single cab, you don’t get that with a 70 series. Some have butterfly doors handy for throwing in extra shit, personally don’t like SC as feel too cramped in seating for me, big long legs but I’m only 6ft still while for mine always be a DC or King cab. You may even get SC and King cabs cheaper as usually a Dual Cab is top price in any line. Also stay away from SR5s and Blinged up versions from factory you are paying for extra which is shite compared to what you can replace eg seats interior or wheels on a ST, or SR models, imo always get the base model 4wd in the line as long as the engine speccs are the same don’t waste your time on factory BS magpie (shiny objects) features that suck you in, that goes for new or second hand, that money can go a long way to building your Ute with real quality interior or exterior or engine components. Think about it…🤘