Top 3 IMPOSSIBLE places people were found | Missing 411 (Part 15)

100s of people go missing every year under BAFFLING circumstances inside national parks and forests across North America. 1 former police detective, David Paulides, has researched 1000's of these cases, and some of them are truly mind blowing...
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#3 -- "The Awful Dark" -- 0:56 -- Child goes missing during a large picnic
#2 -- "Just Curious" -- 6:21 -- Boy Scout goes missing seconds after being seen
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Part 9👉 • Did these men ACTUALLY...
Part 10👉 • 4 kids VANISH from loc...
Part 11👉 • 3 people found in IMPO...
Part 12👉 • You can't go to Nation...
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☠︎ Found the secret easter egg in today's video? Be the 1st to comment what it is and where it occurs in the video, and you will get pinned!! ☠︎

[@bensyme8898]

I see chucky in the corner at 17:16 It’s at the bottem right

[@khayr87]

Youre cheating. The video was posted 12 mins ago lol

[@czisburgr]

how did you find it so fast

[@bensyme8898]

I played it at two times speed did not skip through

[@deannabaum2257]

People like you are gunna be the new like button.

[@Chunky_monkey334]

@@lestergreen.ifyouknowyoukn3676 you’re supposed to be the winner I saw your comment from like 10 minutes ago

[@1Darmbr]

Yes, I am a grown man who listens to another grown man tell me stories at bedtime.

[@josi4251]

Awesome!

[@telajames8416]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@kadyhend1289]

they aren’t stories if they’re true brother

[@moniquemc4553]

Lol

[@corruptednightmaresstudio1742]

Like a true man of culture

[@garrettwood194]

As a wilderness first responder, the kid in the second story sounds like a hypothermic victim. I e seen a scenario like this and the guy survived. Talking with him afterwards he said he fell into the river along the trailhead, and when he made it to shore he emptied his pack of contents and set them out to dry. He also removed his underwear and socks knowing they will stay wet the longest. His story after this is hazy because he was obviously suffering from hypothermia from the water. When he was found by hikers, he was a quarter mile away from his pack and his body was shutting down. If he died, it would have resembled the kid in the second story too a T. The only thing is is the guy survived and was able to explain the state of confusion he experienced after trying to get warm. In his mind he knew the path was close and he needed to get back into it, however he climbed out the opposite side of the river from the trail. His hypothermic mind wasn't making sound connections. Anytime hypothermia is a factor, weird things tend to happen.

[@Chewbecca101]

Agreed. The whole story screams basic behaviors of hypothermia. However, it's still a mystery why he didn't stay put on the trail waiting for a negligent scout to walk by.

[@ASMRMoto]

exactly what i was thinking especially about the fact that he took off his clothes . There are many incidents where extreme hypothermia in the final stages leads victims / survivors to take off their clothes becuz they feel super hot . its a weird phenomena . i couldn't put my finger on why got in the river but i think u got it .

[@garrettwood194]

@@Chewbecca101 no idea why he crossed, but I've seen the absolute mess cold can do to a human mind. I once watched a co worker wrestle a hypo victim from stepping out into thin air inside a heli transport. Fought tooth and nail to get out the bay door. Afterwards when stabilized the guy asked what we were talking about when we mentioned it. I've also seen them stick their hands in open flames to try and get their hands warm. Best thing you can do with hypo victims is expect something you've never expected.

[@andrewedmunds4583]

I suspect that a wild animal may have spooked him away from the trail, got a bit lost and ended up at the river.

[@livvymarie1148]

The thought I can’t let go of is his reasoning for waiting on the trail . He wasn’t feeling well after just having rested, Something about that just sounds odd considering it was a short walk back . Maybe stepped off the trail to throw up who knows

[@mksouthon9508]

I'm a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in flannel

[@shiannpace]

Period 🤣

[@ElveeKaye]

And a backwards ball cap.

[@jmangi6221]

Hahahahaha thats a good one.😜

[@YenMov]

Underrated comment, liked haha.

[@Notvia-c4m]

*P E R I O D T*

[@SeanGilbertson]

At the end I was like ‘Wait, why didn’t they ask Sammy what happened!?” Then I realized I thought Sammy was a person, but Sammy was a dog.

[@nd4539]

Same

[@brendatomlinson]

Ditto

[@RippleSora]

SAMMY'S A DOG??

[@mikeb5063]

Sammy's a persons name

[@yurijane7976]

I'm glad he's safe!

[@Barbara-bk5sv]

He would be the village story teller a thousand years ago. The entire population would have gathered to listen. He is truly gifted.

[@fathomgathergood7690]

Now I'm envisioning the grandmother from The Company of Wolves, 1984 played by Angela Lansbury, "Never eat a wind fallen apple. Don't stray from the path. Never trust a man whose eyebrows meet in the middle."

[@SeaPro360]

He is talented for sure, BUT he works very hard being prepared, so that he sounds and if he were there. That is what pros do. Pros make difficult tasks look easy because they are prepared and, trained. Gifted always helps though!

[@Africanhorror]

We'd pay him in goats and beer

[@gggtvfcrtd8416]

No

[@gggtvfcrtd8416]

Ssssssssssssssaassssssssss

[@kestr3l299]

Things I've learned since I started binge watching MrBallen: Never separate from your group when in the wild for any reason. Keep children under constant supervision when in or near the wild. NEVER EVER GO UNDERWATER CAVE DIVING. Do not go to places where you are told to stay away from, for any reason, especially weather. If you can't find someone, don't wait to call authorities without a good reason.

[@normalhuman9878]

Even better: have your kids wear a backpack with a leash in the wilderness so you can blink once in a while

[@armandocampos7423]

Or fly, or go on hikes, or fishing, or to the forest, or camping, or go to anything close to wilderness, or if you are have any expertise on something, you will probly die LOL

[@hbpuppet]

If management wants you to fix something for extra money, and they don’t want to turn it off, say no

[@richardsavino3612]

And always, always be well armed. Silver bullets can't hurt either. Holy water's good too.

[@hawaiianplayboy2307]

BIG FACTS!!

[@jeanaerowley7150]

I’ve heard that one of the last symptoms of hypothermia is an overwhelming heat flash. Jeff may have experienced this and tried to go into the river and stripped…then fell asleep and died in his sleep. I honestly hope that’s what happened instead of an evil person grabbing him 💔

[@valleyoclarity7635]

far more likely. people who die of hypothermia are often found partially undressed for this exact reason.

[@Seanfrenchh]

It’s known as paradoxical undressing. Terrible. :(

[@chibui7560]

I can confirm the heat flash when you have hypothermia. Back in May when I was transferred from the ICU to a regular room after a big surgery, I experienced the heat flash. It felt like I was in a flame and it’s burning inside my body. I felt that I was sweating badly, then had to “yell out” (actually whispering because I was too weak and was under effect of Motrin) and forced my husband turning the AC on. He told me couple days later that my body temperature was cold like a coprse, so he turned on the heat instead, but I didn’t know about it at that time. I calmed down and went unconscious the moment I heard/thought my husband had turned on the AC. It’s scary of how the brain can trick us to dangerous situation.

[@newguy3588]

What I find interesting about that is that he put a boot back on, kept his jacket and pants on, and removed his hat. Paradoxical undressing or not. Normally when they do that, they don't put clothing back on. Did he remove his clothing for his wade into the river? Did he even enter the river? Was he wet? Did he remove his clothing because he was wet? Curious.

[@paintedanna8641]

@@newguy3588I think he fell in the river, made it to a rock, took off his pack bc it was waterlogged and heavy, and made it to the edge of the river. He tried to find the trail as he was slowly succumbing to hypothermia, couldn’t find it. He was a scout so he probably knew to take off his wet clothes, and possibly stopped to rest and get warm under a tree. He may have started to put his shoes back on to start walking again later, but his motor skills got worse as he sat there and continued to become more hypothermic, and he decided to nap/rest before continuing to put his other shoe on. After this nap/rest, he was severely hypothermic (possibly delirious) and began to paradoxically undress as his body shut down. He died minutes or a few hours later from exposure. It seems very probable and requires no other person to interact with him. Unfortunately, he was a child in the wilderness who was possibly ill. No foul play is required for him to end up dead, just negligence from his troop.

[@lybri5490]

"His legs aren't broken, he can walk" takes me back to every hiking and camping trip with my dad🤣

[@thirdwaycomms]

😂

[@chillwithtee9636]

That bit took me out 😂😂😂

[@JustYouWatchingMe]

I think the Boy Scout Jeff may have ran away from his group intentionally. For some reason he probably was distraught from his own life. It’s possible that he may have had a minor depression and decided to runaway. If he endured the cold nights it’s possible that he eventually went insane. That usually happens when people get lost. He did some odd things like emptying the contents of his bag and neatly placing the items to show off his odd behavior. He then goes and picks spot for where he wanted to die. I think he was suicidal.

[@turkeyslammer9549]

That’s how ik you’re a vet

[@10easilyamused]

“Rub some dirt of it;you’ll be fine” 😂

[@venuslight6814]

I love how he doesn’t play scary music or make it dramatic. 10/10 I feel comfortable watching these at night

[@elle3458]

True

[@lukas.8428]

Well... I don't

[@psywalker7973]

Nah theres very quiet background music i hear in my headphones. Makes it a lil creepy.

[@Itz_Raph-er9bu]

I don’t lol 😂

[@jasonmueller7260]

The music is creepy as fuck

[@chelseab5467]

The 2 year old said their were animals watching him, that seems to be a common theme with these 411 cases. The fact that the hunting dog refused to track him is very strange to me. Thank you Mr.Ballen!!

[@LethalMonarch]

Yeah, the animals watching him from behind the trees but not approaching him sounds really similar to other stories, especially considering Jack somehow ended up miles away from where he used to be seemingly with help from something else.

[@DzinkyDzink]

Probably just a Polytus' literature move.

[@saoirserose2696]

Makes me think of the changeling stories, like Jackie was mimicking the thing behind the trees.. because he WAS the thing behind the trees and the real Jackie was never found 😦

[@Chemclskinz]

I'm tellin' you dude: these kids keep running into cryptids in the 411 stories. In vid 14 of this series the first 2 kids sounded eerily of skinwalkers and the first one here sounded like bigfoot. Like wtf??

[@polarfrost8656]

@@saoirserose2696 ayo 😳

[@toulee3551]

Throwing this theory for Jeff. This is mainly becouse I have been in simmilar situations. Take into account he was not feeling well. He had not been feeling well, he kept falling behind. Now I think he had diarrhea/ stomach pains. Hiking with people it's difficult to brake off to use the bathroom, maybe he was holding it in as much as he could but he lost the battle. He sat down as a last resort to hold it in. He convinced the scout leader to let him sit for a min, maybe the scout leader figured it out and let Jeff have a frew mins of privacy. As soon as the group is out of view he takes off into the woods to relive him self. Well running didn't help and he partially soils him self. He panics and takes his sock off to use as toilet paper. It helps but his undies are ruined. He makes a quick decision to enter the river in an attempt to wash his body/ save his cloths. He takes his pack out on the rock to get a new change of clothes while washing himself down their. It gets real cold fast and he needs to get out. He leaves his items out in an attempt to return. He dries off, maybe he is a little disorientated form the whole thing, and wants to go and check on the group so no one worries, he'll come back for the items once they dry more. He gets lost and becomes very hypothermoc. He sits down and succumbs to the cold/ internal condition.

[@bbaugher2419]

this makes perfect sense actually

[@bvf_rengar6298]

That’s a pretty solid theory.

[@willbland8150]

May be the most thought out thing I've ever heard. You should be in the FBI...

[@enshk79]

Jesus Christ. That’s such a ludicrous, stretched out theory. It makes the theory that Bigfoot kidnapped him much more likely. He went through that much trouble just to take a fucking shit? Are you fucking kidding me?

[@toulee3551]

@@enshk79 apparently you've never been a kid, your thinking "wow he went through all that to take a shit" yes yes he would. Shitting your self is social suicide for kids, sure as adults we don't care and get over it if it happens but not for kids that social anxiety and angst. Take into account everything, slow pace, missing socks, location found, his odd request to sit in the middle of the trail when they are right next to the exit. And your best answer is Bigfoot or some random stranger nabbed him? Lmfao

[@yaboihaverstickxx5990]

Every time a child goes missing in one of these they’re found alive and they say the freakiest and most disturbing thing

[@fadeddevyn2050]

And they all say the same things. Something was peeking out at them But it didn’t hurt them

[@vanhattfield8292]

And they are probably being as truthful as they ever will be, just lack the vocabulary to fully explain...

[@inthelandofmorethansmall7582]

@Mark Gardner or 'the giant'

[@futuristic2590]

Kinda makes you think, huh?

[@chrismose3252]

I've read that children have the ability to communicate with plants and other forms of life (The Secret Life of Plants, great book). Maybe this has something to do with it?

[@languidmccheese]

"It's just not normal human behavior to get up in the middle of the night and run 14 miles through a swamp." The mental image of this made me laugh a little too hard.

[@andrewmartin5622]

What does he mean it’s not normal human behavior?! I do that every night!!!

[@Martinerofsea]

Aight, i guess its time i pay my psychiatrist a visit about running through swamps

[@maggsbufton1969]

It wasn’t night when he started out with the dog……. I’m a runner, 14 miles IS a long way and much, much tougher doing cross country running…through a forest, let along a swampy bog…. Mr. Ballen didn’t say if he had any injuries, but running full tilt for 14 miles, through slippery boggy swampland , regardless of a burst of adrenaline, while carrying a shotgun …IS nigh on impossible , PERIOD….But to do it without falling and injuring yourself the very first mile…is…inconceivable.

[@101Volts]

@@andrewmartin5622 Aren't you a Goose, though? Your kind normally float on water, so I can't imagine a Swamp being much worse, especially with your lighter body weight, and because you can fly. ... ... ... ... ... I hope it's obvious enough that I'm kidding.

[@andrewmartin5622]

@@101Volts yeah, your right. I guess it’s predictable for people to figure out I’m a goose when I have it in my name

[@degrelleholt6314]

When I hear stories like the one with Jeff, I understand why my Scoutmaster always insisted that our troop never split up. In a situation like the senior scout and Jeff, our Scoutmaster would have selected someone to stay with both or would have waited for each. Whenever our SM or Assistant SM would tell us never to leave anyone alone under any circumstances, there was always something in their expressions and voice that always made me take this very seriously.

[@stuckinavase1586]

Always have a buddy

[@WhateverDude38]

Probably cause they've experienced scouts getting lost. The voice of someone who speaks from experience is always the one you seem to listen to the most, you can really hear the difference.

[@russellaltizer6944]

Yeah, hearing that scouting one really bugged me, because we always required the buddy system. You never went anywhere without another scout.

[@tylerblevins2888]

buddy system keeps every one safe... some times working in 3's is better....

[@endersblade]

That last story reminded me of something that happened to me about 20 years ago. I and a buddy were out camping. We realized we forgot to put ice in the cooler. Buddy said he would go into town and grab a couple bags. He walked about 10 minutes up the path to the parking lot, and took off. I heard him start up the truck and pull out on the gravel. The trip would take him about 2 hours, we were pretty far out. About 30 minutes later, my buddy comes walking into the camp from the opposite direction, from the woods. He stops and looks around, and says "why did you move the camp?" I looked at him funny and said "uh, dude, I didn't move anything...and did you get the ice?" He looked back at me, and I noticed his eyes looked...dead. Like, no soul in them. He frowned and said "Oh, sorry. I forgot." And turned around and walked back into the woods. I stood there scratching my head. About 1 1/2 hours later, I hear the truck pull back up into the lot, and a few minutes later, my buddy showed up with the ice. Baffled, I told him what happened, he said he's been in town for the past two hours, and never came back here in that time. The person who came out of the woods was wearing identical clothing, same haircut, same everything as my buddy. Just that his eyes looked creepy. To this day I have no idea what actually happened.

[@SisterMaryTatas]

WHOAH.

[@jeffkerr807]

That's a wild story. Creepy

[@paulatreides0777]

Doppelganger 😂

[@joanhoffman3702]

Doppelgänger or shapeshifter.

[@ruthomas8942]

Awesome campfire story to tell

[@ethanholliman7164]

Imagine if this guy had his own Netflix show where he talks about all of this. Would be amazing.

[@zoeinkerman969]

Netflix would ruin it . KZbin is good, gets straight to the point. Tv shows drag out for shock value and repeat the same information like 5 times before moving on .

[@RedCatHabitat]

There is a really good movie by the guy who wrote the books. It's on one streaming media or another and its called missing 411. You might have to do a little digging because there is a couple with similar names. The good one is very "documentary" and has the actual author. It's really good!

[@jessefodge4978]

He definitely should have his own Netflix show

[@twinklybubblybits]

You should definitely go for it Ballen!🤘🏽🎬

[@grumdorr2023]

or a podcast!!

[@majgoku]

When it comes to cases that involve children of a young age, there really should be a child psychologist involved. Not to weigh the child's mental condition but to extract more information via a structured method using drawings, etc. I'd be so curious to see how that would pan out.

[@A-bit-Shifty]

I agree, a trained professional to dig out any information they can. Something is happening out in the woods and seemingly only children really survive. Some adults/you g adults do as well though its rare and even then they don't remember a thing.

[@paullazier6165]

Excellent idea!!

[@yannialicia6529]

That's a great idea. When I finally spoke up about my sexual abuse that's the first thing requested and done. I didn't understand then why we drew and played certain games but it's really a sub conscious effort of extracting truth versus imagination and rationalizing it.

[@CottonCxndy]

@@A-bit-Shifty I feel like the reason some ppl can’t remember how they got there is because whatever took them had a way of clearing their memory but with such a little kid they know it’s not a big deal idk

[@A-bit-Shifty]

@@CottonCxndy yeah. Maybe its assumed that whatever a child says will be taken with a very large grain of salt as just kids wild imaginations? Either way, something weird is happening out there and it can't all be explained as easily as some people suggest.

[@Lori_09]

The child that went missing at a picnic reminded me of when my parents were telling me a story about my dad. When he was a kid, my dad, his mom and other family members went to this place where they had a family outing, the children played and the adults socialized and prepared the food. As my dad was playing, he secretly went into the bushes without his mom and them knowing. These people with two children ( I forgot how they were described ) walked up to my dad, and the female ( mother ) tried to hold his hand, but he didn’t want to go near them, I guess they wanted him to come with them but he didn’t want to, instead he walked back to where his mom and them were and he never saw those people again.

[@dominiquecataquez1638]

One thing I've learned is that if it's a child, there's a Chance that they'll live, if they're adult, 100% dead.

[@andrewlol717]

Why?

[@Lovingashdaily]

@@andrewlol717 i mean adults are always cofident and most likely always gonna find a soulation to stuff wihich can et u in more danger if u wonder so far off to random creatures in the woods and kids they dont really understand whats happening they might be scared but they arent gonna move and try to find a soulation

[@sendmorerum8241]

@@Lovingashdaily Then how in the hell these kids go so far away? Every one of them broke your rule of "not gonna move"

[@Lovingashdaily]

@@sendmorerum8241 well yea the kids would run deep intot he forest but then stop at some point knowing their lost and cant do nothing unlike grown up they will still go deeper into the woods tryna find a differnt way to get out

[@diabolicaldebacle]

Because adults remember clearly. Children cannot, and will not be taken seriously. I also believe it has to do with puberty, a 14 year old boy was found dead. But an 11 year old boy was found alive, and explained after walking 33 miles in less than 24 hours that animals were watching him behind trees and following him.

[@lindseycuthbert3390]

In the second story he said that Jeff told the scout master he wasn’t feeling that well and that’s why he wanted to sit down. What if he was exposed to a poisonous plant or something and started hallucinating, which eventually caused him to do all those weird things....

[@malen2399]

That makes a lot more sense

[@call999itsalice]

Go on girl!

[@ryuwhite]

Hypothermia will make a person feel like they are hot, that explains why his clothes were off. Not sure why he went off the trail though. I do like the idea he was hallucinating due to being exposed to poisonous plants. That could’ve made him panic and run away getting him lost.

[@edduuulah2819]

First initial reaction was I’d figured he’d left off the path from a bear or predator... being chased to a stream where animals normally won’t pursue into water and he left his pack as a distraction while going upriver you’re avoid the problem...

[@sourgir-wh6xd]

What comes to mind with these forest stories is The Happening. That movie with Mark Walburg bc like in the movie the plants make people sick and disoriented .. And on a different note with all the boy Scouts stories my money is sadly on these scout masters based on the unfortunate abuse charges that have come out in past several years 😥

[@jaxtonanderson2443]

I love how he doesn’t say “my channel” but instead “our channel” rightfully giving credit to his editors!

[@dontbeacasualtycutthecord7173]

And his family I'm sure.

[@tomiraina8520]

@@dontbeacasualtycutthecord7173 And for MOTHER RUSSIA!!!

[@weirdlonelyguy3430]

@@tomiraina8520 LMFAO

[@Wonderlikechild]

@@tomiraina8520 AND MY AXE!

[@leeentertainmentchannel247]

He’s crediting us for watching. It’s our channel now

[@Zmungessssthefungus]

I have a theory for the boys out story: the boy was not feeling good because he had to go to the bathroom, he was embarrassed to say so, he left the trail to relieve himself and got lost. It was cold, and before you die from hypothermia you go nuts and you also feel warm. That’s why often people will make decisions that make no sense and remove clothing.

[@wildflower1397]

That is a good theory. My other idea was that a bear, cougar, or some other animal showed up, and he backed away off the trail from it. The items on the rock in the middle of the water make sense if he went there to keep away from the animal. He took off his clothes to swim to shore for something, because he did not want to get them wet. (Sharp stick? Wood to burn?) Then the cold got to him before he swam back.

[@nd4539]

This is the only theory that really makes sense

[@elliotspencer6656]

Diarrhoea maybe?wash himself in the river,got hypothermia?

[@edelwei0060]

@@elliotspencer6656 or fall in the river while trying to go to the toilette and then got hyperthermik. But this theory makes so much sens

[@SandraV-o7i]

Isn't it weird u feel warm before death gods last gift

[@krisd6090]

Can we take a second to realize how nice this guy is he deleted part 5 of missing 411 cuz the family asked him to.

[@_therealreaper_]

Wait how yk?

[@paulkasden9758]

That speaks volumes

[@lovekitten35]

What were the stories in that one? I'm curious now.

[@nogood4736]

Waaat rly???

[@kouldbanyone4983]

He only had two options - either delete it or the family reports him to KZbin & he gets a strike on his account.

[@kayceetaylor2151]

Regarding Story #2, The Appalachian Trail draws plenty of sociopathic and psychopathic predators of men, women, and children. They are some of the scariest monsters because they look like someone you might see at the grocery store, or someone you might have met in college or in the service, or someone who might have been a neighbor, etc.

[@invisiblecollege893]

What we need is drones with heat senses with a programmed grid searching tech. They can look 24/7. Cover vast distance. Look for heat signatures

[@notme8652]

That already exists but too expensive and "Complicated" for the Local police to use😂

[@aki_chanx1126]

U smart me dumb facts😌

[@julianmalipaard2498]

@@notme8652 then we’re gonna have to wait till technology makes both price and usability better

[@rockstar-5934]

You won’t give of a hear signature if you’re dead.

[@amylumbard3615]

@invisiblechallenge why don't you start to try and build one? I'm sure in this pandemic a lot of people are bored but you would be doing good or even design it on paper and post it to a place where drones are built

[@spaceracer23]

Legend has it, Jacky's parents still have him on a leash to this day.

[@evelynwaugh4053]

They'll let him off it when he turns 18.

[@A_Few_Too_Many_Hyperfixations]

Or will they?

[@kathrynhoward4196]

This is funny, but that was in 1950, so there's a very real possibility that they're all dead.

[@warriormanmaxx8991]

@spaceracer23 = Do you make up (ahem) "legends" much in daily life, too?!?

[@horrorfan5157]

I doubt they're all dead my grandma was in her 20s in the 1950s and she's still alive.

[@neonbroccoli11]

“ Please do a trust fall with the like button” Yeah cause the like button is going to trust you by now

[@waitwhat1029]

🤣😂🤣

[@samuswinter9119]

#truth

[@alwaysyouramanda]

I miss the rating system.

[@luko_landino1463]

this is to get the like buttons trust back so we can mess with them more

[@sarahcrossman2661]

Yeah, I'd guess that ship has sailed 🤣

[@TheConCon19]

The first story reminds me of one that happened here in 2016. It was in January and normally it’s pretty cold here in the winter,but sometimes we will have a few warm days. One warm day a grandma took her 4 year old granddaughter and 2 year old grandson walking down a trail in the woods. The little girls shoe came untied and the grandma bent down to tie her shoe and when she turned back around the boy was gone. After looking for him for a certain amount of time the grandma called the police. There was a huge search with so many volunteers. It stayed warm for two more days and then after that it got very cold. The next morning after the first cold night they found the boy a couple of miles away from last being seen lying up against a large machine (something like a tractor I think) he died from the cold. Volunteers said they searched that area very well the days before. Some people accused the family of foul play,but the police said there’s no signs of that and that they personally know the family (it’s kind of a small town here) and they would never do anything like that to just please leave the grieving family alone. I was pregnant with my daughter at the time and I had nightmares for awhile from that.

[@michaeldoran4367]

poop in a cup! big stinky poop in a cup

[@TheConCon19]

@@michaeldoran4367 what are you talking about?

[@charingcross7945]

michealdoran always makes thes idiotic comments. I think he is a kid who thinks he is clever, except he is not.

[@michaeldoran4367]

@@charingcross7945 My feelings are hurt. It is so clever and original

[@charingcross7945]

@@michaeldoran4367 And your juvenile comments are original?

[@yvindalexanderfrivold]

what i have learned from this channel: dont walk into a swamp unless you are a kid being protected by giants or friendly animals.

[@stefanemanuel5606]

Imo the animals were actually skinwalkers that lured him in for dinner and bigfoot saved him

[@MummaQuan]

@@stefanemanuel5606 after reading your comment, this is what I also choose to believe. Bigfoot is a good dude

[@aaronsmith4940]

@@MummaQuan I don't even believe in bigfoot but most of these forest story's i end up with the conclusion (that sounds like bigfoot)

[@donnaalbright4053]

giants are not relluy

[@Hyp3rSon1X]

@@stefanemanuel5606 Shrek saved him

[@markmanning8832]

#3 - Jackie. Just wanted to note that this has the same kind of thing happening to Jackie as happened to another of your stories. Young child, disappears, animals surround him at night but don't come close, appears miles away from where he was lost. Only difference was one just kept sleeping under trees and the other a giant leads him through the forest.

[@gigimarie3989]

Jeff's case sounds like he went into a delirious state. The fact he said he wasn't feeling well, maybe a spider bite or most likely ate some berries he shouldn't have eaten.

[@unidentifiedguy8253]

I jumped on that idea too, but someone pointed out that he obviously just got sick, had diarrhea, and was desperately wanting privacy and distance from the group to wash his drawers. He may have avoided being labeled as the kid that shit his pants on the hike the next school day, but was it worth it...Sadly, most teens would still choose chancing death to utter embarrassment amongst their peers.

[@randyphillips6506]

He said he was fine just a little tired

[@gigimarie3989]

@@randyphillips6506 He obviously was not 😬

[@randyphillips6506]

@@gigimarie3989 I know but I don’t want to laugh

[@paavobergmann4920]

@@randyphillips6506 Any boy scout of 16y with soiled pants would say that. Every time.

[@chipsthedog1]

Am I the only one who sighed in relief when Sammy was found? RIP to all the poor souls that die lost and alone.

[@chipsthedog1]

@Emma Rose I hear you, I am just the same cannot even watch the ads that depict cruelty, I know they are raising money for good causes but they just break me.

[@kody1112]

@@chipsthedog1 not really for a good cause. They were predatory and use the money to pay for salaries and lobby against hunting. The bets thing you can do is donate to your local shelter

[@petermay4949]

me to

[@Silvaria928]

@Emma Rose Same here. The moment he said the other guy was seen carrying his shotgun and walking with Sammy into the woods I was like, "Oh hell no" and immediately came to the comments.

[@DEEPMUCH]

@Emma Rose NOTHING worse than seeing an animal being hurt.unless you are hunting for food.

[@LB-tb4st]

Every day I wake up after an eerie night, I sit in the shower at 6 am and promise myself “I’m not gonna watch Ballen at night anymore”. It’s 8:15pm and I’m here. This is the fifth night in a row.

[@andrewmartin5622]

I feel that way too. I live in a ranch house (one floor), and I have a window that looks right at my bed. So every night before I fall asleep, I shine my phones flashlight into the window to “scare off any perverts”

[@johnseebeck8892]

I live alone in a one floor shack in Kansas and I watch this guy. Every time I do I check under my bed. The farm I own makes some weird noises.

[@MeLoNarXo]

@@johnseebeck8892 u ok?

[@SonekR]

@@johnseebeck8892 you'll probably end up in a ballen video. Fly high bro 🕊️🕊️

[@l33clair72]

is it just me or does anyone else get the heebie jeebies every time he says "someone or something" ??

[@Midknightwriter]

It is said that people taking their clothes off when freezing it is not a rare occurrence. If you have ever been out in the cold too long you'd know that certain parts of your body feel extremely hot, they call this "paradoxical undressing."

[@mary-melissatyree4003]

It is like some people who try to climb Mt. Everest or other Mt. and start getting crazy and try to remove their clothes. It,s like their body does not feel the cold.

[@dontworryaboutit4255]

Also part of that is trying to stay dry. Swimming after getting undressed doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[@shwethasims6163]

Is there any other way around? Often when my body hits with extreme sunlight after a while it feels like the skin which is exposed to sunlight is freezing.

[@101Volts]

@@dontworryaboutit4255 "Swimming after getting undressed doesn't make a whole lot of sense." Maybe not in this context, but nude swimming *is* a thing.

[@unidentifiedguy8253]

If you haven't noticed, this guy likes to spin scientifically proven or fairly obvious solutions with "aliens moved them 20 miles into the woods" or "they were running from bigfoot". Even the sources he lists usually have the solution of what happened, but he leaves those parts out of the video.

[@quackie3681]

No matter how scary the case is this man makes me feel safe.

[@curiousme113]

Such a simple and wholesome channel... no gimmicks, no goofy humor or shooting your friends with paintballs or darts, no explicit content...ITS AMAZING!!!

[@Candlewick14]

..no....explicit...content....?!

[@bakedbeanz4439]

wholesome...?

[@daniellehall4124]

@@Candlewick14 explicit as in no using sex to sell his stories, no nudity involved in his stories.. and he doesnt show the horrific pictures that go along with the True stories.

[@daniellehall4124]

@@bakedbeanz4439 he is telling true stories using no fake clickbait or just telling his opinion..he is just wholesomely telling facts.

[@Candlewick14]

@@daniellehall4124 I've seen some pretty scary photos on this channel. People boiled or steamed alive. People stranded for three weeks in the dark in underground caves. Demons. Big foot. Serial killers. I mean, that's explicit content dude. What were you watching before?!

[@metatron107]

What I've learned from MrBallen this week: Swamps with forests have portals to the shadow realm in them

[@brasstacks1991]

As an Eagle Scout, I want to know why the scoutmaster would allow not one but two scouts be alone on a trail. There is a reason for the buddy system.

[@Jaqueli9er]

I know nothing about Eagle Scout but I was wondering if the buddy system existed back in the 70's or if maybe it was something enforced after this kind of thing happened? Or maybe they were more lenient?

[@brasstacks1991]

@@Jaqueli9er I don’t know when it was implemented in Boy Scouts, so you might have a point there. I was a scout in the early 2000s. We were never not within eyeshot or earshot of another person. Specifically for instances such as this.

[@normalhuman9878]

I was with a church group at a Boy Scout camp and the buddy system was heavily enforced. couldn’t even go to the bathroom, which was within sight of all the camp sites, alone Then I went with my troop to the same camp site and they were way more lenient and I walked up to the riflery range, at least a quarter of a mile away from the main part of the camp and way out of anyone’s sight, by myself. Turned out I was the only scout that chose riflery at that specific time

[@rustysmith5809]

Right, I made it to webelos, and we ALWAYS used the buddy sysrem.

[@LoveMusic-pd5iz]

@@brasstacks1991 Earliest reference I could find was 1942. But, that's just when it was mentioned in print - could be older. It seems such common sense.

[@Kari77251]

The first question should have been, why did the Scoutmaster NOT enforce the “buddy system” rule??

[@ellenerskine1382]

There probably wasn't a "buddy system" in 1970.

[@annika4289]

@@ellenerskine1382 1970 wasn't centuries ago lol it probably was a thing

[@unidentifiedguy8253]

Seeing dude could have enlisted for a war a year later, I'm guessing the scoutmaster didn't feel he had to treat him like a toddler. Letting a 2 year old wander around the edge of the woods or swamp unwatched is a little different from leaving a 16 year old scout on a trail, only 10 minutes from the destination, and 5 minutes from the trailing scoutmaster. Since dude was sick and seemed to want privacy, he likely shit his pants and went of the trail to clean up/wash up, which was a bad choice it seems.

[@jt-rex6972]

Meh... Jeff was 16 y/o (not exactly a little kid) so I don't necessary fault the Scoutmaster. When I was in the Scouts in the early 1990's, any 16 y/o Scout would be considered almost an adult and most likely was a troop leader and had a lot of outdoor experiences and responsibilities.

[@youcrazycat1]

We had the buddy system in 1970

[@Kriankay]

Me: Getting scared listening to MrBallen My family: Stop listening to that stuff if it scares you Me: Goes back to listening to MrBallen

[@rafaelazo75]

so true

[@lybri5490]

Exact scenario that plays out between me and my 4 yr old. I think my kid has finally given up on me😂

[@graysonsanders-kearney4110]

bruh i never sleep at night anymore and am so addicted to his stories i cant stop watching him.

[@christalkindred4115]

Definitely me!!

[@richardthomas1369]

r/meirl

[@speters9999999]

Those scouts violated one of the important items taught in scouting. The buddy system. Never leave a scout by themselves.

[@lxkasjernigan]

This guy is 1,000,000% the best and most consistent storyteller i have EVER found on the Internet.

[@tghostpipe5472]

Some people are so natural at it.😊

[@muggymug]

Biden is actually the best story teller.

[@rmeyer4066]

As an eagle scout, I have been in similar situations, if you so much as walk off a trail. It is SO easy to get off a "well marked" trail depending on how difficult the trail is. When i was 14 as a life scout, we went on a 7 mile hike with my troop, and my SCOUTMASTER and collectively ALL of us took a wrong turn and ended up going on a 13 mile hike.. fun..

[@normalhuman9878]

Lol my troop went on a hike, I didn’t personally go but apparently one of the scout masters walked off from the group and went up the wrong trail No one has let him forget it

[@Eunos_FD3S]

We didn’t hike as far but 1 mile in a buddy threw a rock at a giant bee hive and we all got 30+ stings each.

[@glennrishton5679]

Who are scoutmasters in reality? Are they highly trained survivalist with years of back country experience or Army Special Forces/ Rangers? Navy Seals or Marine Recon? Nope they are average adult males who sell insurance, work on cars, cut hair.... Not to say some of the above dont become scoutmasters but they are rare, most are average men motivated to help boys learm some life lessons and self sufficiency

[@brdarlin]

my two year old can’t even walk on flat ground without falling so great job Jacky haha

[@annalingus3104]

Agreed my two year old Can trip on nothing and everything all at once 😂

[@Hisdudeness9500]

Two year olds are very good at tripping over their imagination.

[@helpmereach1ksubsforwaterf823]

My two year old trips on bed while SITTING

[@annalingus3104]

@@helpmereach1ksubsforwaterf823 MINE TOO. LORD DOES SHE GIVE ME A HEART ATTACK EVERY TIME

[@ashley6416]

Mine also, walking or running and just trips on air.

[@bluetuhgreen]

I feel like a lot of these stories about kids being found outside of the estimated radius could boil down to near-kidnappings. I feel like someone (the person peering behind the tree) beckoned him out, he followed, and they walked together to where he was found. And then he either changed his mind or he decided it wasn’t worth all the hassle with the search party and he leaves him. At least that’s where my mind goes.

[@andyblendermann]

This is exactly what I think happened. An abductor picked up Jackie and then for some reason - hassle, conscience, lost the kid - left him at the power plant. 2 year olds are not tall and that trek through the swamp would've left him wet and muddied... unless he was carried. Or teleported.

[@epizzle9232]

Adults underestimate the amount of ground a child can cover in a small amount of time.

[@grandcatsmama3421]

Yes, as a former child care worker, I can tell you children can go far fast. They can run faster than we can and easily disappear before we can even blink.

[@nomoreluke]

@@grandcatsmama3421 I'll bet you $4500 that I can outrun a 2yo ;)

[@geod3589]

@@grandcatsmama3421 My little grandson, 3 years old, can run like a scared deer. Amazing how fast he is, I cannot keep up with him. In just a very short time he could cover at least 1/4 mile.

[@taitano12]

@Couple screws Loose Sorry, but you're wrong. Playing around in the woods, I've had many a little one make way faster time than me. They're smaller, making them able to duck under things I would have to climb over. They're light weight, so they can skitter across logs that would collapse under my weight and across mud that would sink me up to my knees. And their tiny feet can take them through paths way too narrow for me to pass. I would race my niece and nephew up and down the driveway, beating them every time. But, trudging through the swamp on an "Archaeology expedition", or "hunting dinosaurs", even a professional woodsman like me struggled to keep up. And with my current health, there's no way in hell I'd be able to catch a toddler that decides to take off; like my 3 year old cousin who decided to follow a bird a few years back. She saw a bird when we were hiking and bolted away from the group a good 500 feet off the trail into the woods. Her dad and mom were only halfway to where she had stopped when she got back to them. She had stopped because she got distracted by a flower; which she picked and gave to her daddy.

[@taitano12]

@Couple screws Loose Oh, I agree she was carried. I'm just saying kids that age are faster than most adults especially through terrain like that. The condition she was in and where she was found makes it obvious she had to be carried there.

[@lindalowe8341]

Scouts use the buddy system and they messed up big time! The boy wasn't feeling good and by no means should have been left alone. Very sad and avoidable. 😖

[@christalkindred4115]

I agree, sounds fishy!! Never should've been left alone!!

[@omega5418]

Exactly what I was thinking lol these are “master” and “senior” scouts but don’t even use the buddy system they teach in cub scouts 🤨

[@wanderingghost7324]

Could it possibly he being poison or drug?

[@muddyshoesgardener]

I agree! Not possible. Senior scout not finished eating ? Too strange. And since when do scouts need huge packs for a short hike? Too many questions even prior to the mystery. Sorry. The pre- mystery factors are more out of the ordinary than the occurrences .

[@felixdom9693]

Feel very bad for jeff :(

[@rennnnnnnnnnnnn]

My theory about Jeff from the second story: When Jeff said he didn't feel well, he meant that he had diarrhea. So before the scout master came down the trail, he couldn't hold it and went into the woods to relieve himself. Then he got lost. This explains why his pants were undone and also maybe why his socks were off. He may have gotten something gross on his socks and took them off because of that. He may have been washing his stuff in the river because he was embarrassed about showing up to his troop smelling like that. That's my theory at least :P

[@samuelharris6540]

Makes sense to me. That or something similar could easily have happened. Jeff steps off the trail to relieve himself, gets turned around, and heads down hill like a good scout. He finds the stream, decides to follow it, but is tired, takes off his pack and puts it on the rock, fully intending to come back for it later. Unfortunately, he's so tired and lost, he never does. Exhausted, shivering, maybe having fallen in the cold water, he slumps against a tree.

[@johankaare4740]

or maybe someone took his bag and placed it in the river. In an attempt to get it back he may have taken his socks off and tried to swim out to it, but was taken by the current ... or maybe he thought the water was too cold and gave up

[@dollarstorecookie3938]

He could have become delirious afterwards and succumbed to hypothermia. People suffering from severe hypothermia enter a stage where they begin to take their clothes off and he might have just done that

[@robertrazo7352]

The theory that Jeff had diarrhea is plausible to me. I was sick once and had lost so much fluid too fast and my body shut down. This could’ve happened to Jeff. He could have walked off trail and tried to clean up in the river. Being disoriented and lost, his body was further taxed and he succumbed to the elements. Good theory Dorian Flednam.

[@TvB2721]

A goog one 👍

[@elisaaaasil4207]

These experiences....they make us wonder whether there are different dimensions.....different species that can travel through different portals

[@rogadboonhopper6546]

Why did Jackie have to call it the “Aweful Dark” 😭

[@frankieverona5353]

he was little 😂

[@edwardmarmion1672]

Because it was awful .....😶

[@charliebee4338]

Poor baby, he was only a toddler, just 2 years old😢

[@GameMaster23044]

Because it was dark and he was scared

[@charliebee4338]

@@GameMaster23044 😢 yes

[@sandyposey8074]

It is mind boggling to me, how many people mysteriously disappear.

[@thomasjefferson8875]

one major point for that is the government/media, now one, and the same, never talk about, and give decent advice when going into the woods.

[@JohnDoe-cj6uk]

It’s called schizophrenia and it’s an actual mental illness, you just start doing things that make no sense to anyone but to your brain it does, and the most common thing you do is abandon everything you have and you just start walking away from where you started for hours and maybe even days, it’s very frightening once you wake up from an episode of schitz and can sometimes scare you enough to give you a heart attack

[@ScholarlyCynic]

Technically if no one else seen it, it can be considered a mystery

[@JohnDoe-cj6uk]

@@ScholarlyCynic it’s just reported as a death with no cause if they’re never found, because that’s all you can put of the final police report if theirs given no evidence other than an abrupt disappearance

[@smassey6848]

I would have never left the kid behind. He was in that scout master’s care and he was responsible for those kids. Good going!

[@locky2127]

Especially not when he was clearly not feeling well. He might have gotten poisoned by something he ate.

[@danieljohnson2681]

I’m in Boy Scouts the scoutmaster would’ve said hell no to that

[@cakebby18]

All they had to do was tell everyone to stop and wait. It would teach the kids that it's good to care about everyone in the group and to not leave others alone in the woods.

[@lydiapetra1211]

@@cakebby18 I completely agree with you!

[@MaliciousSquirrel]

The rule when hiking with a group the slowest person should ALWAYS set the pace.

[@jessebrown8519]

Nobody runs 14 miles through a swamp except Bigfoot. Love how you tell Bigfoot stories without saying Bigfoot.❣️

[@Nerotheraccoon]

Lol I wish it was vig foot. Something much much darker

[@adreto2978]

@@Nerotheraccoon what

[@jb6712]

Can't tell a story with something's name when that something doesn't exist. Bigfoot is nothing but a myth, another tall tale told by boring old men who had nothing better to do that day, and chose to make up ghost stories.

[@levih.8786]

I could listen to missing 411 stories from Mr.Ballen for hours on end. That would be sick to actually interview David Paulides!

[@doodoodoodle]

This year has been a great year for crossovers (so many people I didn't think would have gotten together to talk and whatnot), so let's hold out some hope!! If they did a collab honestly I think it'd be great for the both of them. Especially since ballens stories feel true (its not all reddit horror stories, he likes some truth in there). It seems like that would be important to Paul :^)

[@jeremyhietikko752]

His narrations of the missing 411 are pretty badass

[@SvennyRose]

I do that I listen to missing 411 while cleaning my flat 😂

[@Demclipz1]

This man is the only guy that can make me feel safe watching something scary

[@Dan-n-Duke-jr2ic]

I hope for your case you're not a dude..or over 18

[@Demclipz1]

@@Dan-n-Duke-jr2ic ?

[@kingcharlesparody]

@@Demclipz1He’s saying you’re a 😽

[@Demclipz1]

@@kingcharlesparody lmaooo I made this comment when I was 12

[@janiceconnolly8740]

Never separate the group! You all go in together and you all come out together. There are no exceptions!

[@sstritmatter2158]

The second one where the scout was found deceased from exposure, it's not uncommon to be confused when hypothermia occurs. I think he probably panicked (can happen being alone in the woods especially being a boy) and lost the trail looking for the troop. Eventually he came to this stream and for some reason he got into the water trying to cross it and that put him in a dangerous state that probably exponentiated hypothermia. This advanced hypothermic state likely affected him mentally and led to confusion, which is a normal sign of this. This is why his clothes were taken out of the pack and laid about just so and why he was later found with his clothes part way off and his socks off. It doesn't make sense because he was going through hypothermic confusion with probably a lot of panic mixed in. He had enough sense to get out of the water and was probably too tired to go on and sat by the tree and succumbed to exposure like that. He was far from his troop, too. Think about it, he was found 1,000m from where his pack was abandoned in the stream - that's more than half a mile! - a good ways in the woods, actually. I don't believe this was an abduction case at all, this was a panicked boy feeling abandoned creating panic, which lead him to get lost in the woods looking for his troop that cost him his life. That's sad, and I blame the scout leaders for not ensuring his safety. You never just let anyone catch up who is straggling behind, I don't care if he is with an older scout - these aren't men with full understanding of responsibility, developed reasoning and experience nor mental and physical toughness and so on. These are still boys. It's very sad because this should have been avoided. I say all of this because I was a Boy Scout once and made Eagle.

[@goblinofsharksnacks]

Half a mile is barely a 10min walk But yeah, its common when people get hypothermia for their body to heat in a last effort to save them, and for them to strip and then die of exposure, which is what he seems to have done by opening his jacket I'll also never understand people who stop paying attention to anyone lagging behind, so many young people n kids who disappear like that

[@ademoss80]

Cory's story is just terrifying. Something was after him, something awful, something I don't ever want to run into, something I hope no one else runs into. I don't blame Sammy for not wanting to go back in there. That amount of distance, especially considering we aren't talking about someone who'd never been in the woods before so he wouldn't be easily freaked out or hear a noise and overreact. He would know the normal sounds throughout the forest and the not normal sounds. He must have been so freaking scared. Noooooope.

[@mcrivas4714]

My mother who grew up in extreme poverty in mexico,has told me stories of “duendes” or elfs that would appear to her as a child when they would play in the woods.

[@trap4yomomma]

Yes and las brujas the witches

[@shutch3367]

I find these things fascinating. I’m from the US however I’m intrigued by other cultures and beliefs. I’m also a believer in if so many say it then there has to be some truth to it. I would LOVE to hear your families stories!!

[@charlymrivera7236]

ok pocho

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

Your mother needs psychiatric help.

[@ElCid48]

@Michelle many tribal people in Canada and the states also have stories of small people. and also stories of hairy giants. we are not the only ones around

[@christine4224]

Mr. Ballen, you are hands down THE BEST, story teller EVER! Love your videos!

[@blacktornado5212]

Of course he loves his videos.

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

When a person is freezing to death, the muscles that are keeping the blood in the body's core get exhausted and just let the blood flow back out to the extremities and skin. This makes the person feel hot and they'll take off their clothes. It's called "paradoxical undressing." Extreme hypothermia can also cause confusion, which might explain taking everything out of the pack and laying it out.

[@AddictsoftheImmediate]

Or he and his backpack fell into the water so he took everything out of it so it could dry out then confusion from hypothermia from falling into the water caused him to walk away from his pack. Took off gloves, socks, and hat because they were wet. After awhile, paradoxical undressing, which is when hypothermia causes you to get an extreme heat flash right before dying, caused him to try and take his coat and pants off right before or as he died. Looks to me like a no-doubt case of hypothermia, IMO. Poor kid. He was let down by those who were supposed to make the safe & life saving decisions by being allowed to be left alone in the wilderness.

[@tramainecunningham2263]

Mrballen: Can you Stop abusing the like button? Us: No

[@alexsandrsenaviev4529]

MrBallens gonna have a new KZbin video on “The Strange Disappearance of the Like button”.

[@glor3na]

We must be gentle with our abuse

[@bradbucci1981]

The like button is pressing charges for being touched inappropriately...LMFAO

[@bradbucci1981]

@@alexsandrsenaviev4529 yeah, where in conclusion his/her body would be found a few miles away from last seen...shoes and socks were off along with the shirt and pants, folded neatly, except for one shoe would be missing. a few years go by, and 2 hikers found a dead animal (looking like either a mountain lion or panther) wearing the other missing shoe! The two hikers were in shock and they both knew that they had to report this to me authorities however, they were also both very nervous. I mean what are they supposed to report to them, that as they were hiking down the trail they stumbled upon a dead deer wearing one size 4 blue and white Nike on its left foot? They would've put them in the looney bin. So they both decided that they'd tell them that they found the sneaker on the ground next to a dead deer. Both of them never talked about it again. Until years later, sick in the hospital...growing weaker and weaker as everyday passes, suffering from lung cancer. He asked for a moment along with his only son, and told him the TRUTH ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. He passed away 4 days later in his sleep after doctors decided to induce a coma so he can be given a very big dose of morphine mixed with fentanyl to keep him comfortable and outta pain. He was also given a rather high dose of Propaphypol which is a medication that keeps the patient asleep.

[@paulleblanc9280]

lmao

[@kasiarodkey5149]

I’ve been watching you before bedtime, and you put me to sleep every time! I’m a Night Shift insomniac, and your stories, no matter how horrifying and scary, just make me feel safe and sleepy. I appreciate what you do! You’re so talented!

[@silentbuccaneer4569]

What confuses me in the second story is why would the Scout Master leave ANYONE behind.

[@deborahdalton12]

i know write like anything could happen in a matter of minutes depending on the situation not that im necesarlly blambing the scout master but if he does that hes not a scout master hes A SCOUT

[@jeaniebird999]

@@deborahdalton12 He's not even a scout! Don't they use the buddy system and NEVER leave anyone alone?

[@Delicate_Disaster]

Right? I had a boyfriend who was in scouts and my cousins and my best friend were too. They were in the same troop and my boyfriend was an Eagle Scout which is the highest rank. A couple of times my boyfriend was slowing them down because he was a perfectionist. The troop would give him crap for a while and then my friend would call me and jokingly tell me to give him an "incentive" so he would get it in gear and they could leave lol. They went on a ton of trips and they always had stories about them all having to stop and do something or all slow foen because someone was falling behind. I've never heard of a Scoutmaster leaving a scout behind, especially not two, and especially not when scout 1 has no idea that scout 2 is relying on them.

[@purplekermit2162]

These stories are made up....

[@iiafrokidd6271]

@@purplekermit2162 wait what?

[@annamariebee]

My theory for the second story. Is that after Jeff sat down he realized he was out of water so he went to that river to fill his canteen. He then fell into the water getting his clothes, socks/boots, and pack wet. He then put his pack on the rock and took everything out to see what was wet and continued to leave them out to dry. Meanwhile he was still wet, so he went to the tree and took off his wet socks and loosened his clothes so they would not stick to him so he wouldn’t get hypothermia. But in the end died from exposure. Feel free to critique anything that doesn’t fit with your thoughts

[@breb905]

That’s a very good theory

[@FF-yn7ul]

This actually might be it

[@Incognito_Blazer]

Would be a good theory except for the fact that the tree was 1 kilometer away from where his pack was

[@unidentifiedguy8253]

LOL. He was out of water 10 minutes from the destination and, being sick, felt it a good time to break with the pack (rather than ask someone for a bit of water). It is obvious dude was sick, shit his pants, and wanted privacy to wash up before seeing his schoolmates again. The scout code doesn't include not gossiping at school the next day that Tony, or whoever, shit himself on the hike.

[@Incognito_Blazer]

@@unidentifiedguy8253 whyd he walk a full 1km away from his stuff then?

[@lw2835]

I've actually noticed a pattern with a lot of these stories, the parents keep leaving their kids unattended.

[@daisy671]

Or a possibly 4D thought. What if these beings are interfering with the parents thoughts. I've read so many personal encounters, where thoughts were being put in their minds while experiencing a Sasquatch or shimmer encounter. Who knows. I do believe we only know a fraction of what's real in our reality.

[@foysollee750]

@@daisy671 OMG maybe you should stay off the drugs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@daisy671]

@@foysollee750 Super original. Beta comment at best. I was being speculative. You might have to look that word up. The only use for drugs that would help, is to forget people like you live in this realm. Too little too late will be the story of you.

[@mxzrry]

@@daisy671 fr even if you don't believe it, it's still interesting to listen to

[@daisy671]

@@mxzrry Not sure what you mean? Believe in what?

[@sw_1776]

It would seem more likely that when Jeff disappeared the reason his backpack items were found in the middle of a stream is someone carried it there because that would be the best place to avoid leaving your scent and looked through his items in that location.

[@thatchedstudios4768]

Jackie wasn’t in “The Awful Dark”, he was in “The Upside Down”.

[@noahkropczynski5897]

Nice one

[@jettyeddie_m9130]

He was on the other side of the mirrors

[@darklightgaming918]

Lol

[@audreejamie4873]

Freaky

[@paulleblanc9280]

Sort of like stranger things, lol

[@CoinsAndCapsaicin]

A small child may be able to walk over ground that adults will sink in to.

[@greysonc3719]

That's true

[@Jp..033]

That's true as the child weighs less than an adult

[@sparrowspearl882]

Ok but Fae also abduct mostly children. Just saying

[@jammyhammy049]

because of weight that's how mud works small weight wont even dent it and big weight will SINK

[@aki_chanx1126]

Yea because of da wight difference u smart

[@QueenDarkChocolate]

Listening to MrBallen has taught me to never, EVER go hiking in the woods alone.

[@larchan1350]

Or swim in narrow water caves.

[@Itried20takennames]

Never a great idea to go into the wilderness alone, but remember the about 2,000 missing in US parks over 20 years is out of hundreds of millions of visits (23 million in 2019 alone). So, 99.999% chance you will be fine. It is also still much safer than even a “safe” city...with London having over 30,000 people reported missing in a single year.

[@TFLdotcom]

even with a ton of people around it still happens.

[@ZhaheimP]

Or never go at all💀💀

[@Laura-gb4zi]

You’ll never catch me going hiking in the woods to go cave diving ! Ever! 😂😂

[@magictugboat507]

My theory on story #2 is that Jeff had a stomach bug/virus which led to him having diarrhea after eating and drinking on their lunch stop. This fits with the evidence presented in the story. His troop noticed he was lagging behind during this hike, which would make sense for someone suffering stomach issues. Also, minutes after his lunch break he randomly stops in the middle of the trail and tells his scoutmaster that he is going to wait there, when he is just minutes from the end of the hike. His stopping randomly makes sense considering if you ever have had a stomach bug/ virus, you know that about 10-15 minutes after you drink, liquid is going to go shooting out your backside. While the following events require some assumptions, these actions make perfect sense from the perspective of a scared and embarrassed teenage boy scout. Jeff has a stomach bug/virus, causing him to struggle throughout the hike, enough that it was noted by those around him. He eats and drinks during his troops' lunch break. Minutes after eating(and more importantly drinking) he shits himself walking on the trail, he then stops immediately where he stands(as anyone who has had diarrhea walking would do). Embarrassed and scared of his accident being discovered by his peers on the ride home, and the potential social fallout, he decides to deal with it himself. Jeff tells his scoutmaster to go on without him, and that he will just wait here for the senior scout to come along. He actually intends to clean himself off, and then meet up with the troop in the parking lot without his secret being discovered. After the scoutmaster is gone, Jeff quickly makes his way down the mountain to the creek to clean himself and any soiled clothes in the water. He gets undressed, either partially or fully, and wades into the water deep enough to clean his lower body, but not any deeper than he has too(the water is very cold). He places his pack on the rock and removes its contents carefully, to see if it contains any useful items that could help him in his predicament. He then sets about cleaning up his “mess” as best he can. The problem is the creek is ice cold and the air is not much better, on top of that he isn’t wearing much if anything, it would not take long for hypothermia to start to creep in. First aid knowledge is required for basic Boy Scout rank advancement, and Jeff’s troop is on a Winter hike in the Appalachian mountains; he definitely would have been taught the symptoms and dangers of hypothermia. As Jeff is cleaning himself he begins to notice the signs of hypothermia, and it dawns on him that he's in serious danger. Jeff is alone, well off the trail, and specifically did not tell anyone where he went. He is unlikely to just be found quickly, and getting back up the mountain to the trail in his condition would be a struggle. Jeff knows his best chance of survival is the parking lot, his troop is there, and more importantly there are cars(with their heaters) there. Shivering and scared Jeff hurries back to shore leaving his pack and items behind. He quickly and haphazardly gets redressed, not bothering to rezip and button correctly(that would have been slow and difficult with freezing cold and wet hands). Putting socks and gloves on cold wet hands and feet would also be difficult and slow, so in a rush he leaves them, instead making due with just boots. Jeff hurries upstream towards the safety of the parking lot. He is still very cold and wet, and as hypothermia takes over the urge to sit and rest becomes unbearable. Eventually, Jeff sits down near a tree and freezes to death.

[@paulc2138]

That makes total sense when you really think about it. His hands would be freezing after dipping them into cold water to clean himself plus the cold air and maybe wind chill factor stopped him as you said from putting his socks on and properly putting on his clothes. Well thought out 👍

[@kerstinoberlin4708]

Very good explanation. Well thought out.

[@the.seagull.35]

Good theory.

[@airsrock2.053]

Doesn’t makes sense IMO. If he was intelligent enough to clean up to save himself embarrassment, he would be intelligent enough to get back to the path he left and back to his life. Or even pucker up his butthole for the toilet 100m away?

[@ryanblack2986]

Plausible theory. Wonder if his pants showed signs of being soiled.

[@gritsandgravy2633]

I bet you Flannel Daddy is Batman at night... An Ex-Navy Seal who just happens to have an interest in stopping crime? I smell a superhero

[@TheWholeEntireCake]

THE CRIMSON CHIN

[@chellybelle77]

Flannel daddy! I'm ded 🤣

[@gritsandgravy2633]

@@chellybelle77 Haha I stole that from Garand Thumb and gave it MrBallen since he too rocks the Flannel

[@EJ-74]

SuperBallen 🤔🙄😁

[@nottooobvious4890]

“If you ever thought that Garand Thumb and MrBallen should make a video together.... go ahead and hit that subscribe button.”

[@mr.squidward6947]

Why did the coffee file a police report? It got mugged

[@ecchylevy9057]

I feel personally attacked and I have never been so grateful xD

[@lorabellmaior7668]

Lol

[@blueassassinsyt1859]

Why did the girl file a police report? Because her heart was stolen

[@dotdotdotx]

@@blueassassinsyt1859 no

[@bendrowned8506]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[@brokentombot]

Society: It's not normal to get up in the night and run 14 miles through a swamp. Me: No one understands me...

[@tripi7906]

Lol

[@heatherbrooks7479]

My dad always woke up and ran in the middle of the night… and anytime during the day. It’s a runner thing

[@Waterpopgifts]

I would love to see an episode of your takeaways from telling so many stories! Like patterns, similarities, thoughts, ideas, themes you have found and theory’s you’ve put together on the strange dark and mysterious

[@kieranhart5776]

Finally a man with a great sense of humour. Telling “true” stories as a real person, and quite well I might add. What can I say, the man IS Legend and I’m hooked for life. Kieran Hart

[@kieranhart5776]

2 year olds do have imaginations but they don’t know how to lie yet. There is definitely truth to Jackie’s story.

[@dianelalonde544]

I love your background with the pixy dust falling. It looks magical. I also love your stories ❤️ ♥️. From Canada 🇨🇦 ♥️ 😀

[@Lost_Soul333]

I found out about Paulides and missing 411 about 2 years ago. I watched everything I could it was so interesting. And even tho I've heard all these stories before , you have a way of telling stories that just pulls you in. Love this series.

[@donzapp1709]

Omg same! Its just so weird something weird is definitely going on and the fact the FBI really looks into them also they know something is going on! So creepy

[@richardthomas1369]

Appalachian trail I tell ya, you always get turned around. I even have and I’ve hiked it like five times Edit:Don’t be alone on the Appalachian trail

[@megiab]

terrible scoutmaster.

[@richardthomas1369]

@@megiab ikr

[@gracie6016]

you’ve hiked the whole trail five times?

[@rachelreneer56]

Did you run into any hermits out there?

[@justineharper3346]

I live in Appalachia. I grew up in the middle of the forest with no neighbors for miles. I would roam the woods around my house when I was young, and there were a few times I wandered a little too far and it took me a long time to figure out how to get home. It’s very easy to get lost

[@SackVegasAnime]

The amount of people that are faced with a potential missing person in the wilderness and say let’s give them another night is baffling.

[@jenkins80526]

If I had a super power, it would be to be able solve these missing persons stories and put their families and friends at ease. How horrific must it be to lose a loved one in such a terrible way and never see them or hear from them again. If this happened to me and I were to lose my son like this, I don't believe I would survive it. These stories are absolutely heartbreaking.

[@Sauti_science]

Time traveling detective

[@bbaugher2419]

absolutely -- wish I had the same power

[@na195097]

If Jeff wasn't a senior scout, he should've never been left alone. Period. I'm sure the scout leader is devastated and feels enormous guilt, but if he was properly trained, he wouldn't have left him.

[@codeXenigma]

If it was only 10 minute walk they could of helped him. Never leave anyone behind

[@TEO.187]

Yeah if a kid gets too tired to walk I'd just carry them before leaving them unattended, they might be embarrassed but that's better than lost, hurt, or dead

[@sunitafisher4758]

🌸 for second story, unfortunately being exposed to cold weather & snow can cause a person to get confused This was just a scout, so a child or young teen, who said he was not feeling very well What they perceived as 5 mins was most likely 25mins in actual fact This boy, who felt increasingly ill probably felt like he had diarrhoea coming and had to go to toilet privately Unfortunately being unfamiliar outside the marked trail he would have gotten confused with the cold weather With hypothermia if severe enough it can cause hallucinations and in later stages causes the person dying from it to start to undress because they mistaken feel intense cold as intense heat. They did mention he went in waist deep into the freezing water which will cause hypothermia. This is a very sad tale and I wished the scout leader took time to discover the child actually probably thought he would discreetly move away to try to relieve himself However if he was passing painful flatulence this would have made him think he soiled himself and if he had intense gripe this also would have made him feel the urgency to relieve himself. I’m not exactly sure what happened but it’s plausible he moved from group because of embarrassment. Later succumbing to the cold and death followed after 🥶

[@laurenlopez4999]

So I've stopped watching TV lol this is my new ish🤷‍♀️😎

[@suejones9035]

😂 😆

[@camen-draws5909]

Why is this so true for me to lol

[@kclyli3017]

Yep, be prepared for depression when you get through all of them☹ I'm on my second time watching them 😋

[@legojigga]

Im beggining to notice a trend between all the stories Older people: Open jackets Missing 1 shoe Items untouched or placed near them The forest Toddlers: Go missing 3 miles away Unable to explain wat happened if at all The forest

[@notme8652]

The other people went delirious While the toddlers literally Became a Disney princess and talked with the animals

[@zavionmouton462]

Literally lol. Toddlers get found and can’t really explain well. Older people found dead.

[@jessicadutridge9882]

I know!!! I was scrolling for a comment like your's. There are clear patterns to this guy's stories (in his book) that make doubt their validity. Some, I believe, but others...hmmm.

[@rachelkania5833]

@@notme8652 I wanna be a Disney princess!!! Haha 👸🏻

[@despicablenik9169]

@@jessicadutridge9882 i would agree despite the fact there are newspaper archives that corroborate his stories. I mean i think his point is that the similarity between these situations are evidence towards the idea that some monster is doing this.

[@therealCellblock1138]

Jeff probably wanted to take dump but was probably embarrassed so he made an excuse about waiting. Then he went too far in the woods to do his thing and lost the trail. Scout Master is totally culpable for leaving a kid that wasn't feeling well alone.

[@bostonsandatot4948]

People always underestimate how far a toddler/little kid can travel. Kids have endless energy, of course they could travel for miles especially under distress.

[@rivumrejex2864]

They really need to start putting cell phone towers in these remote places!

[@jayward2662]

Would it be better if all cell phones had the ability to have access to satellites?

[@mynameisgladiator1933]

@@jayward2662 Not possible. The power to send a signal to space would be prohibitive.

[@jayward2662]

@@mynameisgladiator1933 you do realize that the technology already exist. There are satellite phones. The cost would out weigh building cell towers on every mountain ridge and they would look as good as the wind turbines that have polluted the country

[@natashacox6401]

Better to have eyesores than missing people

[@widgeonslayer]

Cell phones are line of sight. They need to be in a direct uninterrupted line to a tower. Unless you intend to put a tower on just about every mountain top that may be rather difficult. Not to mention getting power to them all. Ready to pay a few grand a month for service?

[@miniclip886]

I don't think there's anything stronger in this universe than this man's hatred towards the like button

[@emilybarclay8831]

Nor his love of backwards baseball caps

[@yourmomsfavorite69]

@@emilybarclay8831 and going into the dangerous areas to tell his stories

[@grimaIias]

nor his love for hand movements

[@SuperBustyEva]

Also a child that young, like Jacky, wouldn't have a reason to lie.

[@nicolasM.7.62x51]

But children at that age have VERY fertile imagination, they don't know how to distinguish imagination from reality.

[@RIDEWHATEVER]

@@nicolasM.7.62x51 but what was the reality that caused his imagination to create such a thing? Obviously it was something other than him just walking through the woods, no?

[@nicolasM.7.62x51]

@@RIDEWHATEVER I mean, when I was 5 I would see a guy in my room at night, I would run crying saying there was someone with a "hurt face" in my room. And no, there was never anybody there. And at the same time that happened, a guy got executed with a 12 gauge to the head somewhere close to where I lived. And yes I lived in a dangerous place, Brazil, Rio de Janeiro, right next to a Favela called Coroa * Crown in English* Pure coincidence? Or was I seeing a ghost? The fact that this never happened again tells me it was just my child self's imagination. But everything just fits so perfectly, right? Like I said, a child's imagination can be really weird and scary at times, but it never happened again, as a pre teen, teen and young adult life I have never seen anything while sleeping in that room again. It just proves it was all my imagination. Anyway I think telling this personal story from when I was a child can prove my point. I don't believe in ghosts btw.

[@Zenmxn]

@@nicolasM.7.62x51 well, the story doesn’t actually says that the animals were ghost. Maybe, the would have been group of strange ppl, but it’s still strange to think about it. You did saw someone with a “hurt face”, and that was actually true since there WAS. A criminal, which is creepy in itself

[@lachelnderhund]

It's call imagination, 2 year olds don't exactly know what's real and what isn't

[@bluebirdboy9103]

That senior scout needs to be investigated. Sounds like while they were separated from the rest of the group they met and some foul play happened.

[@1SOJA]

Kids can get pretty far real quick, I escaped my backyard in Washington state that had a chain link fence at the age of 2 and was picked up by the police and brought home from a gas station 3 miles away that I had been to with my mom, all for a hostess cupcake. But the kid that followed the Giant chills me to the bone. At that age they don't lie or make things up.

[@elysse5983]

But woods are way more difficult than straight road It seems so weird Its not easy to go through the woods fast A straight road i can see but hm woody trail No way

[@hollystiener16]

He isn't lying, but he could have a very wild imagination.

[@pitchforker3304]

That story freaked me out. My brother and I, at the age of 2 or 3, disappeared from a farm house our family was living in. They found us hours later a couple miles away, with a story that we followed a friend out there. Weird stuff happened at that house.

[@harleyhendrix8467]

Um actually that's exactly what they do at that age. They lie and make up things. Now they may not know it's a lie or made up bc they may believe themselves. But either way they have a crazy imagination that can take them clear across the world. So just saying ....lol they really do lie and make shit up at the age of 2. My 2 year old is so freaking funny bc any time I catch him doing something he knows he's not supposed to be doing and when I ask him why is he is doing it he will straight look me in my face and tell me he's doing it bc I either told him to do it or told him that he could do it when in fact I have not. But he's very smart trying to case reasonable doubt!!! Haha lol

[@Evilcookie173]

I don't know,,, the story maybe real,, but kids do lie. My niece lies all the time Me: "did you eat/take that?" Them: "no." Hands/mounth full of whatever. All the time. But maybe it's just my niece.

[@JtheInsane]

Why are stories with kids always way more terrifying? Dear lord I need to drink a gallon of holy water after that first story

[@kaymorgan2826]

12:35 sounds like early set hypothermia, disorientation and fatigue then hysteria or confusion, walking through the icy river, unpacking the backpack, then his body started shutting down, he got warm and started taking off his clothes and then eventually dying.

[@itsliterallymax6379]

Has anyone realized all of these stories have witnesses of animals peering form trees

[@trey3835]

IKR ITS SO WEIRD

[@darkmoon-su8lc]

That scares me

[@melindastuke2467]

Bigfoot

[@itsliterallymax6379]

@@darkmoon-su8lc it scares me too with all the hiking I do

[@Raysun-The-One]

It was bigfoot

[@alyssaschultz9159]

I need to stop watching your stuff 😂😂 I've spent all day listening to your stories. it's so relaxing and enjoyable

[@luisfernandez5206]

Question: why is it that whenever someone unexplainably goes missing in woods, they always find their stuff neatly placed in a random area and they are ALWAYS found with just 1 boot on? This intrigues me.

[@Luminousreign]

exposure. they cant actually feel their limbs because circulation has basically stopped but their body and brain are wildly misfiring in an attempt to regulate body heat so one hand/foot may feel like it is on fire while the other still feels numb and cold. even when people survive they tend to lose one limb or the other, your heart is on one side of your body so your circulation is slightly stronger on one side.

[@adammm321]

If I know I'm going to die I would rather take my walking boots off

[@kittygatotv3885]

someone is taking them from underground

[@brendaleverick3655]

It's like, why is there only ONE shoe found on the road?

[@erlend6338]

Could be as a distraction, like setting bits of clothes in a direction you didn’t really go

[@justinanand7088]

MrBallen: and then they vanished Me: having Avatar flashbacks