Top 5 Best Recoveries In Smash Ultimate

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We break down the best recoveries in Smash Ultimate and give you our opinion on the top 5. Will Minecraft Steve be on the list?
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@BeefySmashDoods
@BeefySmashDoods 3 жыл бұрын
What is YOUR opinion? If you don't agree with our list let us know your top 5!
@ObiAlmighty
@ObiAlmighty 3 жыл бұрын
**laughs in Zoom**
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ObiAlmighty dang right 😂😂😂
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 3 жыл бұрын
Koopa junior has a pretty good recovery with tons of mixups
@Alibaba-id1cs
@Alibaba-id1cs 3 жыл бұрын
Wait Meta Knight and Bayonetta is in this game?
@rafaelvial7737
@rafaelvial7737 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I'd put Snake as an Honorable Mention? Or swap him for ZSS
@ballisticboo7808
@ballisticboo7808 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a giant space dragon with huge wings and only being able to fly in four directions
@frankzatank7382
@frankzatank7382 3 жыл бұрын
@crystalblade13 also backwards up-b goes upwards somewhat so he can turn around with his 3rd jump and backwards up-b to mix-up when recovering.
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being the most requested character in smash history since Brawl and no one caring about you a week after the game releases.
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450 3 жыл бұрын
@crystalblade13 I underselled him, Ridley is fun, it’s awesome to see him in smash, and a lot of people play him. I’m just saying that for such a requested character, he barely got that much love from the community. The same could be said for K Rool and Banjo. Super highly requested characters, yet they quickly fell out of popularity
@cartmondey202
@cartmondey202 3 жыл бұрын
firstly i thought u meant yoshi
@typememe7686
@typememe7686 3 жыл бұрын
stop
@SomeGuyNamedTea
@SomeGuyNamedTea 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the top 3 characters were all the best/ broken characters in their debut games. Pikachu (N64), Metaknight (Brawl), and Bayonetta (Smash 4).
@KevSB07
@KevSB07 3 жыл бұрын
G/W was also broken in his debut
@newspider5693
@newspider5693 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevSB07 man...
@dyssonpitcher612
@dyssonpitcher612 3 жыл бұрын
And Pikachu is broken again I. ultimate D:
@KevSB07
@KevSB07 3 жыл бұрын
@@newspider5693 lol
@sonte5050
@sonte5050 3 жыл бұрын
wasn't kirby the best in 64? idk much about that game but that's what i've heard
@luckuru-sama1416
@luckuru-sama1416 3 жыл бұрын
A new video that feels somewhat nostalgic
@thatonecanto
@thatonecanto 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the smash 4 one
@kib9833
@kib9833 3 жыл бұрын
True
@migo1559
@migo1559 3 жыл бұрын
pac-man's recovery should have been an honorable mention, change my mind
@scylla1772
@scylla1772 3 жыл бұрын
Up b insanely easy to exploit, side b is okay but counter able, and can be stopped by simply destroying the dot. Admittedly I do not know what the cutoff for honorable mention is, tho, so point may be moot
@migo1559
@migo1559 3 жыл бұрын
@@scylla1772 up b is easy to exploit alone, but mixed with side B's superarmor is pretty good. It's also the only spike counter in the game (excluding actual counters)
@marcov4867
@marcov4867 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Pac-Man so when he wasn't an honorable mention I was sure he was going to be #1. Apparently not
@ezra6094
@ezra6094 3 жыл бұрын
Projectiles?
@migo1559
@migo1559 3 жыл бұрын
@@ezra6094 what about them?
@radiaz121
@radiaz121 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: spamming A on Steve's recovery cancels it and allows him to snatch to ledge easier. This helps Steve recover in scenarios like 10:12. It doesn't look it, but that was survivable.
@SteelWolf8
@SteelWolf8 3 жыл бұрын
Does he go into free fall after it cancels or can he still attack and place blocks?
@radiaz121
@radiaz121 3 жыл бұрын
@@SteelWolf8 He goes into freefall
@XiuHang
@XiuHang 3 жыл бұрын
You can also change the angle to extend Steve's vertical recovery even further. I don't know why it works, but Steve's Up special has some extreme vertical range.
@julo_ghost
@julo_ghost 3 жыл бұрын
You can thx Mew2King for that.
@Toxik_Dubz
@Toxik_Dubz 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly...not sure why they glossed over that. It makes Steves Up-B recovery MUCH better. They also missed the laying TNT on top of a block which allows you to stall off stage longer because the block disappears as if there is nothing on it making it last 4 times as long as just standing on the block itself. Not sure but I don't believe they patched either one of these out.
@healmore8716
@healmore8716 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s all be honest Little Mac’s KO punch is the best recovery in the game
@wackkkman5169
@wackkkman5169 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@mikeychrisanthus9948
@mikeychrisanthus9948 3 жыл бұрын
It sends a message
@gamesandluigifan7152
@gamesandluigifan7152 3 жыл бұрын
So broken you have to build a meter to use it
@DerXXLMario
@DerXXLMario 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with that
@ABAgamer_
@ABAgamer_ 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone says it!
@yan_dj
@yan_dj 3 жыл бұрын
This feels like the smash 4 videos. [Insert "but be careful" here]
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 3 жыл бұрын
The spin animation...
@arstulex
@arstulex 3 жыл бұрын
What video is that originally from? I remember they referenced it in a Smash Review episode and joked about how he talked in the older videos, can't seem to find it though.
@eaa1338
@eaa1338 3 жыл бұрын
@@arstulex just search “beefy smash dudes spin animation”
@arstulex
@arstulex 3 жыл бұрын
@@eaa1338 I meant the origin if the "but be careful" joke. I think I found it now anyway, it's from Smash Review 23
@zitoarias4354
@zitoarias4354 3 жыл бұрын
I feel Pac-Man should be a contender tbh homie can stall forever being a mix god for recovery IMO great vid btw
@dj_senf6741
@dj_senf6741 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too. I guess it can be exploitable at times but I would've at least expected an honourable mention
@echo1279
@echo1279 3 жыл бұрын
He has two options side b or up b. Yrs one has super armor but if you hit the mega pellet away before he can get to it he stops his side b and can't use it again. His only other option is to use up b which can either be broken before he lands on it again making him go into free fall. Of course this is kind of hard to do since you could get hit by his recovery but projectiles I feel destroy his recovery considering they also damage the trampoline as well. So yeah pac man can stall and recover from very low but the cons outweigh the pros.
@Amalga
@Amalga 3 жыл бұрын
@@echo1279 he has so many options to avoid these things though, tons of mixups with how he angles side-B (you can literally just loop it behind yourself to avoid having it get hit as a mixup), plus being able to stall with Hydrant and Fruit. Trampoline is also very very hard to exploit considering how fast it is, and how often times Pac-Man will rarely ever be in a position where he has to rely on all three bounces since he has so many other options for making it back
@vick7868
@vick7868 3 жыл бұрын
@@echo1279 this is not true. With how many directions it goes in addition to distance, plus the fact that you can easily put the Pellet in a place that it can't really be touched, it is insanely hard to challenge in the right hands. That alone could make it a contender for number one, let alone factoring in Trampoline and Hydrant stalling.
@echo1279
@echo1279 3 жыл бұрын
@@vick7868 and @Amalga Unfortunately the pellet will most likely end up pointing at the ledge anyways. And yes the hydrant gives a little boost but the end lag on it would lower him a little more than would have if he just used his up or side b. Now don't get me wrong I'm not dissing his recovery, it's amazing and hard to challenge so it should have at least gotten an honorable mention, but the flaws would keep it out of top five. But yeah not trying to say it's bad I've gotten gimped multiple times trying to challenge it.
@amaze_z1953
@amaze_z1953 3 жыл бұрын
Petition for Questionable Beef with screw attack Bayonetta
@theshadowspider97
@theshadowspider97 3 жыл бұрын
Screw attack Bayo is broken, if used right. Jump, witch twist, jump, 2nd witch twist kills by itself without needing fair to finish. Works best at low percents. I love screw attack Bayo.
@echo1279
@echo1279 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like hell
@PalpitoadPlus
@PalpitoadPlus 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Rasminger
@Rasminger 3 жыл бұрын
screw it
@TheFatHyena
@TheFatHyena 3 жыл бұрын
OH HELL YES
@KorethTMG
@KorethTMG 3 жыл бұрын
Hero: *laughs in zoom*
@doomsdaygaming9928
@doomsdaygaming9928 3 жыл бұрын
Lol true, it's only weakness is RNG
@marche800
@marche800 3 жыл бұрын
@@doomsdaygaming9928 And even then he has a higher chance of getting zoom off stage.
@beatfoxgonzalez5199
@beatfoxgonzalez5199 3 жыл бұрын
@4xzx4
@4xzx4 3 жыл бұрын
@@marche800 Around 53% to be exact. Though it has 30 frames (iirc) of start-up before the intangibility starts, so he can still be hit out of it if you are near him or have a projectile.
@jerryakatony5724
@jerryakatony5724 3 жыл бұрын
But it’s too unreliable
@BirdOfCreation
@BirdOfCreation 3 жыл бұрын
With how frequent the swordies are, I have to say Bayo not snapping the ledge with her upb makes her far worse.
@Canti89
@Canti89 3 жыл бұрын
As a bayo main I'm surprised they didn't mention that.
@N12015
@N12015 3 жыл бұрын
Still top 5 material, just worse than Pikachu and Meta Knight.
@raymondwest1522
@raymondwest1522 3 жыл бұрын
Thing is though, (High GSP Bayonetta, no tournament experience) if you kept your jump stored, you have all your twists back, so you can recover high and cross any which way. Bayonetta is REALLY tough to edgeguard Edit: auto correct errors, whoops
@Alex-ud6kv
@Alex-ud6kv 3 жыл бұрын
Pressing A at the apex of Steve's recovery enables enhanced magnet hands and would have allowed him to grab the ledge
@williamdiamant457
@williamdiamant457 3 жыл бұрын
Magnet feet* haha
@spry9953
@spry9953 3 жыл бұрын
Also as prove by M2K, if done right, Steve can recover from bottom corners by having the model be "flat"
@alextema007
@alextema007 3 жыл бұрын
10:13 let me present you: PRESS A TO MORE VERTICAL DISTANCE
@Gabi-ij7ug
@Gabi-ij7ug 3 жыл бұрын
and angle down on the middle of his up b for go very high
@minecraftsteve1593
@minecraftsteve1593 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. If you miss the edge by a bit as Steve, mash buttons to take off the elytra so you get sent up a bit
@Artemisfoxangel
@Artemisfoxangel 3 жыл бұрын
No Pacman no the list!? Thats insane, he has one of the Best recoveries on the game and has many posibilities to reach the plataform
@Xearrik
@Xearrik 3 жыл бұрын
10:10 Wait. How do you guys not know about Steve's Up Special techs? You can actually vertically recover from almost anywhere with it.
@HeavyHebi
@HeavyHebi 3 жыл бұрын
ikr it seems they haven't
@PascalProducers
@PascalProducers 3 жыл бұрын
that is what i was wondering too
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 3 жыл бұрын
This feels like an old video they uploaded to fill some sort of gap. It's so weird
@linkpwnz3291
@linkpwnz3291 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing
@donovanmahan2901
@donovanmahan2901 3 жыл бұрын
He could recover from the bottom corner with his double jump and some iron.
@indecisitivity1832
@indecisitivity1832 3 жыл бұрын
I literally blinked when cFive said “if you blink he’ll be onstage” and well what do you know he was right
@superfrubblez6123
@superfrubblez6123 3 жыл бұрын
10:30 am I the only one who thought they were gonna say incineroar for a split second?
@loliwolf9696
@loliwolf9696 3 жыл бұрын
Me lol, it isnt as bad as people make it seems but he definitely not making it back if he doesnt have his secound jump
@miguellarmed34
@miguellarmed34 3 жыл бұрын
LOL me
@justjoshin956
@justjoshin956 3 жыл бұрын
When they said “here’s our number 1” the first thing i saw was incineroar. I was slightly confused.
@Nyahahameha
@Nyahahameha 3 жыл бұрын
Tsukasa Tawada did just as amazing a job on Pokemon Battle Revolution's soundtrack as he did on Colosseum's and Gale of Darkness', but nobody remembers that game exists so I never hear those songs used in videos. Thank you for including one during the Pikachu segment. :D
@itsmevarnami
@itsmevarnami 3 жыл бұрын
I remember sunny park very well
@ObiAlmighty
@ObiAlmighty 3 жыл бұрын
3:57 That joke sure did FLATLINE!
@HeavyHebi
@HeavyHebi 3 жыл бұрын
Okay you can leave now.
@ObiAlmighty
@ObiAlmighty 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyHebi Perhaps you’re seeing it from another PLANE of vision.
@cameronkirkpatrick1310
@cameronkirkpatrick1310 3 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad they put my boy in this
@MoLassessss
@MoLassessss 3 жыл бұрын
@@ObiAlmighty that’s the FLAT out truth.
@blip7882
@blip7882 3 жыл бұрын
for more vertical distance as Steve: mash A at the end and aim down at the start THEN up he can basically recover from anywhere due to these things
@StephenSiu
@StephenSiu 3 жыл бұрын
*mentions ZSS Marss has left the chat.
@Minister_of_Magic_1997
@Minister_of_Magic_1997 3 жыл бұрын
B tier recovery at best
@afranticperson
@afranticperson 3 жыл бұрын
i mean its the only thing zss is good at. her edgeguarding is mediocre, ok mobility, idk probably a low mid tier
@xnelga5000
@xnelga5000 3 жыл бұрын
@@afranticperson you underestimate ZSS
@afranticperson
@afranticperson 3 жыл бұрын
@@xnelga5000 whooosh
@xnelga5000
@xnelga5000 3 жыл бұрын
@@afranticperson xD
@bluyu
@bluyu 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny how they don't know about Steve's up b tech that allows you to literally recover from the bottom blastzone/corner of the stage without the use of his double jump
@luiscarlosmairenasiu7142
@luiscarlosmairenasiu7142 3 жыл бұрын
How?
@erratasss_
@erratasss_ 3 жыл бұрын
They showed Steve's up B tech at 9:36. That is what you're talking about right?
@MrSimenGrymy
@MrSimenGrymy 3 жыл бұрын
@@erratasss_ thats not a tech. here is an example: Steve is under the stage, and his recovery alone wouldnt snatch the ledge. But if you spam A while recovering upwards steves body goes kinda to the side. Like this " / ". His legs touches the ledge and he is able to grab it. Its a weird tech and not sure why it works. but his recovery gets times better because of it. If you're confused what i meant u should check out M2K
@erratasss_
@erratasss_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSimenGrymy oh yeah I know that tech. I was thinking of Steve's "infinite" recovery
@_127N
@_127N 3 жыл бұрын
Well He can get spiked No Matter what
@engranger_ssbu
@engranger_ssbu 3 жыл бұрын
*Looks at title Oh yay they finally going to awknowledge my main! *Cries in jigglypuff
@scylla1772
@scylla1772 3 жыл бұрын
I was a bit surprised about that, but at the end of the day, her side b can't protect her nearly enough
@grapesalad_
@grapesalad_ 3 жыл бұрын
*Cries in Villager
@DaDMonDCB
@DaDMonDCB 3 жыл бұрын
They focus mostly on Up Special (looking at MK and G&W), and Jiggs is kinda screwed there.
@yukimori7762
@yukimori7762 3 жыл бұрын
*Cries in Daisy main*
@tituswaugh4367
@tituswaugh4367 3 жыл бұрын
**cries in steve main cuz steve actually has a better recov than bayonett and the rest on the list** even tho it's his opinion i still think that steve has an advantage when it comes to recovering like a friking godlike being compared to others
@kirbyyoshi3431
@kirbyyoshi3431 3 жыл бұрын
Thought I would see Pac-Man at least in the honorable mentions.
@kyresd
@kyresd 3 жыл бұрын
Pac man is super easy to beat though
@lucasevans5640
@lucasevans5640 3 жыл бұрын
TRUE
@julo_ghost
@julo_ghost 3 жыл бұрын
No. You can just destroy the Pac-gum and then steel his trampoline
@Had0k3n2X
@Had0k3n2X 3 жыл бұрын
True but they probably didnt know that you pac man has several ways to recover that are situational such as if he's knocked offstage and someone is holding a fruit he can use the empty puff of air to slow his fall or change direction
@julo_ghost
@julo_ghost 3 жыл бұрын
@@Had0k3n2X Pac-main right!?
@user-ds3bh4jt6r
@user-ds3bh4jt6r 3 жыл бұрын
I think Inkling or Pacmans are way better than every honorable mention.
@chordalharmony
@chordalharmony 3 жыл бұрын
PAC, probably. Inking, no I don’t think so. Only one upwards recovery move, and limited angles. Still a great recovery though
@user-ds3bh4jt6r
@user-ds3bh4jt6r 3 жыл бұрын
@@chordalharmony Sheik and Steve dont have two either. And you can use roller as a third jump back every time you get hit. You can basically always recover and the only weakness ar long lasting moves and two frames as they consistantly punish going low (wich is Inklings brst option but you naver have to do it).
@chordalharmony
@chordalharmony 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ds3bh4jt6r Which to a point means Steve’s is just a better version. Plus there’s a glitch for Steve’s recovery that give him insane height, allowing him to come from anywhere with only elytra basically. Although I didn’t know about getting a jump back. And both shiek and Steve have a large set of angles on their up b’s, so snapping to ledge with it can happen even above the stage. Not the same for inking. But still, it is a really good recovery
@user-ds3bh4jt6r
@user-ds3bh4jt6r 3 жыл бұрын
@@chordalharmony Sheiks recovery is probably better but i dont really believe in Steves its pretty easy to edgeguard his upB imo its so slow.
@chordalharmony
@chordalharmony 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ds3bh4jt6r it’s debatable either way. They are bit pretty good
@dan.t.hillary
@dan.t.hillary 3 жыл бұрын
I think I need a whole video just explaining bayo's recovery.
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 3 жыл бұрын
Its bullshit....and not even worth understandimg because bayo is such ass in ultimate. Basically you have to use up special before frame 4 of your double jump gets burned... really hard to time correctly
@RiskierGoose340
@RiskierGoose340 3 жыл бұрын
10:14 Actually, steve can grab the ledge at this second by pressing attack, which nudges him up a little but puts him in free fall early. Source: steve main.
@Ludvix
@Ludvix 3 жыл бұрын
if only i can recover from my crippling depression
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 3 жыл бұрын
Play sd remix
@Itsame14
@Itsame14 5 ай бұрын
woah a verified comment not at the top
@OniiChanPls
@OniiChanPls 3 жыл бұрын
I missed these kinds of videos a lot from you guys! it's what originally made me a subscriber and a fan in the first place!
@_Uptilt
@_Uptilt 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the 4 top spots weren't really a contest. I put Pac-Man in 5th on my list, likely because I'm so bad at abusing the weaknesses of his recovery. Still feel like he deserves an honorable mention though!
@doomsdaygaming9928
@doomsdaygaming9928 3 жыл бұрын
Fr, the horizon and vertical distance are insane, the only issue is both side b and up b can get screwed by nakitas
@N12015
@N12015 3 жыл бұрын
I remember a Tea (Pac-Man) vs Leon-(Bowser) fight, a in grand finals notheless. In a moment Bowser does a Bowsercide against Pac-Man. Result: Bowser died, Pacman recovered from that even when he got hit by Bowser's claw and Leon lost that set and it was a reset as a result (Leon still won that tournament).
@vick7868
@vick7868 3 жыл бұрын
@@doomsdaygaming9928 even then its hard since Pac has such an insane amount of mixups.
@rasauulwashington8835
@rasauulwashington8835 3 жыл бұрын
@@N12015 Kirby could even recover from that
@masterwoo4359
@masterwoo4359 3 жыл бұрын
Cant agree really with meta knight tho he's not brael meta
@Mizticall
@Mizticall 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Bayo at #1, her recovery is still INSANE lol
@tap7645
@tap7645 3 жыл бұрын
As a Bayo main I'm honestly so happy people mention her for once.
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh you're too late, smash 4 was 3 years ago
@tap7645
@tap7645 3 жыл бұрын
@@YounesLayachi Lmao. Still mad about Smash 4? Get over it. It's another game.
@Canti89
@Canti89 3 жыл бұрын
I was a bit surprised when she wasn't after not being in the honorable mentions.
@bluroguevyse08
@bluroguevyse08 3 жыл бұрын
This was super cool, great work guys!
@diamond_enderman568
@diamond_enderman568 3 жыл бұрын
For Steve’s recovery, if you do up special, you can flick the joy stick downward right after and Steve will move a lot higher facing horizontally. And for bonus height, you can spam the dodge button and his legs will just barely reach higher. This can be very useful for when you are right underneath the ledge
@ABAgamer_
@ABAgamer_ 3 жыл бұрын
Hear me out: Mac has the best recovery because he can drop to the bottom blastzone and come back center stage in an instant.
@WorstOneFred
@WorstOneFred 3 жыл бұрын
C5 while describing zss: her one move that makes her recovery really good is THE FLIP JUMP... Me:.... wait is that ACTUALLY how it's called??? I thought it was flip kick or boost kick?!?!
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 3 жыл бұрын
Boost kick is Up B, you can see the rockets under her shoes BOOST her up. Down B doesn't use those thrusters
@WorstOneFred
@WorstOneFred 3 жыл бұрын
@a guy yeah I realised that but like later
@WorstOneFred
@WorstOneFred 3 жыл бұрын
I just fund it funny that I confuse all her moves lmao
@TheSattocs
@TheSattocs 3 жыл бұрын
It’s worth mentioning that Pikachu’s quick attack is so fast that you can easily avoid a lot of Final Smashes after they have already been activated in your face.
@dangerroom1066
@dangerroom1066 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see some kind of tech vid from you guys again.
@raincastmusic
@raincastmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Isabelle and Villager’s recovery is amazing
@fantastic_jarod2391
@fantastic_jarod2391 Жыл бұрын
It’s super exploitable though
@dj_senf6741
@dj_senf6741 3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting Pac-Man on this list.. Now I feel less unfair using him 😅 Also, one could mention wall jump for some of these characters as another mix up option ✌🏼
@tjz3158
@tjz3158 3 жыл бұрын
As a Pac-Man main I felt a little bit insulted
@ismaelebottelli3679
@ismaelebottelli3679 Жыл бұрын
Yoooo that's a super sick video! Nice job doods!
@redblu
@redblu 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite type of content from you guys
@francoandreparraflores1491
@francoandreparraflores1491 3 жыл бұрын
I already knew that Meta knight have one of the best recoveries but the bad part is that hardly anyone uses it (I main Meta Knight) good video!
@nordaemonn84
@nordaemonn84 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! Coming into the video I was like "they better have my boi MK on this list." They did not disappoint.
@_127N
@_127N 3 жыл бұрын
If Metaknight was missing on this video I would have Been mad
@Its-amy3237
@Its-amy3237 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, my character (Mewtwo) also has an amazing recovery yet no one uses him
@sai.g1
@sai.g1 3 жыл бұрын
Little Mac tho :)
@rolandmcrae1449
@rolandmcrae1449 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say you guys are great content creators for Smash. Videos are well-edited, you're both very knowledgeable at the game, Smash Review skits are A+
@fluffalleo9149
@fluffalleo9149 3 жыл бұрын
1. If you tilt Steve's recovery during start, it will count it as going downwards when going upwards gaining about 6 tiles. If you spam is recovery you can gain an extra 4 tiles I think. 2. Spamming tnt and Steve minecart you gain a lot of height. 3. Pacman nor snake didn't get mentioned he can recover from anywhere.
@Pepeutra
@Pepeutra 3 жыл бұрын
snake's recovery is really predictable and edgeguardable, i don't agree with it but with pacman's i agree
@ZeoLightning
@ZeoLightning 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with putting ZSS over PAC-MAN. PAC Has so many angles and ways to mix up his recovery, its extremely hard to challenge, even with counters, he can stall Numerous ways, His recovery lets him travel a pretty huge distance and he's one of the only characters like ROB and snake who can recovery high completely and avoid recovering to the ledge entirely, but he has safer landing options than ROB or snake. also I dont think bayo's recovery is as good as you are making it out to be. i still think meta knight has the best recovery in the series. has since brawl
@kyresd
@kyresd 3 жыл бұрын
Super easy to beat just be patient and hit him at the right time it's super linear
@natewhitfield9369
@natewhitfield9369 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyresd not against smart pac players
@ZeoLightning
@ZeoLightning 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyresd if a PAC is recovering linearly, they aren't recovering good at all
@natewhitfield9369
@natewhitfield9369 3 жыл бұрын
Side b has tons of mix ups and good pac players understand how the armor works, hydrant stalls for timing purposes, up air has a slight float mechanic that actually gains some height, 99% of the time you shouldn’t need the last trampoline
@natewhitfield9369
@natewhitfield9369 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just die to opponents throwing out moves and perfectly getting the red tramp, sure, but that happens to the opponents just as often so the pac player gets cheesy stocks
@agentkoopa6129
@agentkoopa6129 3 жыл бұрын
C5 have you not seen Mewtwo Kings video on how to recover with Steve correctly upwards. You can recover very high from under the stage by using a certain method while up being. I suggest to check it out on their Channel most valuable gamer
@angusjohnb7014
@angusjohnb7014 3 жыл бұрын
I still don’t think he breaks top 5 best recoveries though. That only solves his vertical distance problem, the problem of no hit box on his recovery and being easily pressured is still relevant
@gothtearz
@gothtearz 3 жыл бұрын
@@angusjohnb7014 - Exactly, one of their main points was how it was very easy to catch and attack him while he is recovering. Also if he doesn’t have materials he doesn’t have half of his recovery due to no mine-cart
@andymcclurg9916
@andymcclurg9916 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to watch this kind of video on any other channel because you are very informative yet concise.
@JuhoSprite
@JuhoSprite 3 жыл бұрын
Yo the thumbial looking sick. I love when people use the ingamr camera mode instead of just using screenshot
@abrahamlincoln7907
@abrahamlincoln7907 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't see Zoom on the list. Is this because its based on RNG, because that is actually the best in the game imo
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@frankzatank7382
@frankzatank7382 3 жыл бұрын
It is just too unreliable imo
@blunderberry8772
@blunderberry8772 3 жыл бұрын
But he could get punished if the opponent predicts where he lands
@blunderberry8772
@blunderberry8772 3 жыл бұрын
And it doesn't really allow for a reverse edge guard
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankzatank7382 not really, it's 50% reliable so you can always go for it first then up B. Even without a jump if you're hit far away/high enough you can open menu out of hitstun, throw a random spell or Nair dodge if you don't find zoom, drift in then up B
@erikg5458
@erikg5458 3 жыл бұрын
12:29 dude, she just combo being in edge guard .-.
@TheFatHyena
@TheFatHyena 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah coming off to edgeguard Bayo is just asking to die lmao
@FSSmash
@FSSmash 3 жыл бұрын
That pokemon revolution music during pikachus segment ahhhhhh
@Masonomace
@Masonomace 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice video. Did the process/concept of "scrooging" ever get mentioned in the video or while making the video format? I'm curious if that was considered for when talking about the best recoveries. It's true that there's soooo much to discuss & mention when talking about a character's recovery power. But one thing I liked to secretly mention as a little bonus for brownie points, was if said character could scrooge underneath the stage & recover to the other ledge or not. It is stage-specific because sometimes, a stage won't have a gap to recover underneath. But I had thought characters who could make it back to the other side of the stage would be in honorable mentions as well.
@anangryfrog1045
@anangryfrog1045 3 жыл бұрын
The best recovery in the game is actually hero’s zoom
@SeriousStriker
@SeriousStriker 3 жыл бұрын
I feel as though that's cheating.
@Toxik_Dubz
@Toxik_Dubz 3 жыл бұрын
This has merit...I would have to agree Hero has one of the strongest recoveries with Zoom. The only thing going against it is the RnG element to getting Zoom off stage but that seems to happen ALL THE TIME so yeah, I agree Hero has one of the best recoveries.
@Toxik_Dubz
@Toxik_Dubz 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeriousStriker It's not cheating it's just RnG
@gr33nsl33v3s
@gr33nsl33v3s 3 жыл бұрын
Not with a good ass read
@pomatomapo
@pomatomapo 3 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man. Can recover from literally anywhere Can stall with down b Can recover from above Can ledge spike with side B Can move out of side B
@sebastien07gaming95
@sebastien07gaming95 3 жыл бұрын
Also, almost immune to spikes with up B. (I say almost because occasionally, normally at high percentages for me, Pac gets hit past the trampoline when spiked)
@cqbjones4861
@cqbjones4861 3 жыл бұрын
Nah he’s exploitable as heck. If ya projectile the dot his side B is gone. Steal his trampoline. He’s kinda useless after that.
@placeadrien5566
@placeadrien5566 3 жыл бұрын
@@cqbjones4861 Try to hit that dot when Pac can stall almost forever and launch it from anywhere and still hit the ledge. Pac's recovery is a contender for best in the game due to how mixable it is.
@cqbjones4861
@cqbjones4861 3 жыл бұрын
@@placeadrien5566 I can and do. Hit that thing with any of my main Link’s projectiles. It’s easy as hell.
@sebastien07gaming95
@sebastien07gaming95 3 жыл бұрын
True. I’m a PAC-Main and if a projectile gets the dot before you activate it, then your side B gets deleted. If you activate it early, then you can still make it activate before a projectile hits it. Even then, if the projectile missed, then you practically wasted your side B. If not, you at least get a small amount of distance. If you truly can hit the dot that often, then most PAC’s will just die. Honestly, hitting the dot and jumping on the trampoline when your opponent did it from too far away are very effective ways to destroy Pac-Man if you get them off-stage. While PAC’s recovery is extremely good, if you are able to do those 2 things extremely consistently, wherever your opponent decides to use it, you’ll be able to cheese Pac most of the time.
@jackolson3154
@jackolson3154 3 жыл бұрын
i’ve been waiting for this
@doggem4792
@doggem4792 3 жыл бұрын
love this kinda content do more please!
@TriglycerideBeware
@TriglycerideBeware 3 жыл бұрын
I really think Pac-Man and Snake at least deserve honorable mentions... maybe even Jiggs, Peach, or Lucario too. There are just so many characters and so much variety that it's going to be practically impossible to make a mostly unanimous list with a cut-off of 5 characters. However I do feel that every character you picked deserves it.
@Cooler110033
@Cooler110033 3 жыл бұрын
Wha-? Jigglypuff's recovery is terrible. While her horizontal recovery is excellent with serious floatinesd and that spammable Side B, she barely gets any height from her jumps, literally has no Up B recovery and, is easily footstooled to death. Her vertical recovery is so weak that I don't think she deserves an honorable mention. Lucario's Up B takes a bit to cook up, like Fox's, which makes it more predictable and literally broadcasts to the opponent, "Okay.... Get ready to attack me... NOW!" It has great range but it's not too difficult to attack him out of it while he's dashing I agree with Peach being pretty great, she might've deserved an honorable mention imo too
@vick7868
@vick7868 3 жыл бұрын
For real. I honestly think Pac has the best in the game. He just gets all his shit back if he gets hit and has so many more mixups and stalling techniques that anyone in the game.
@Cooler110033
@Cooler110033 3 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man is pretty great too, the Side B is fantastic, though like Zero Suit, I think he can only use it once if he's hit out of it and hasn't touched the stage yet, leaving him with only his Up B His Side B is kinda hard to contest though, so that make it pretty great. You can also draw the path all distorted to stall or mix your opponent up, which is also fantastic, but if he (or maybe it was the pellet) get hit, I think it cancels it, right? As a Pikachu main, I do edgeguard aggressively and have messed up a Pac-Man's Side B before and the pellet and him just drop Leaving him with only the Up B, which has the same problem of broadcasting to your opponent exactly when to spike him since it's extremly predictable. Also if you're good, you can drop down onto Pac-Man's Up B trampoline just before he touches it for the third time so that when he falls on it, it just breaks. Not too hard to do either But yeah, overall Pac Man probably *was* an honorable mention and they just cut it for time or something
@Cooler110033
@Cooler110033 3 жыл бұрын
I think Snake's Up B is kinda weak. There isn't too much variety in it under the stage. Above it or to the side, he's pretty "solid" (ba-dum-tss), but below he suffers from the same predictability factor as he's locked into a rising animation. If you spike him out of the second half of the animation, he won't be glued to the glider like I believe he is the first half, and he really will get spiked to death I know he can cancel it early and air dodge, which helps, and he can also C4 air drop to blow himself back up, but those can't help him in many situations. At high percents the C4 can just kill him instead. Overall I'd say his recovery is just fine. I don't think I'd even give him an honorable mention. It's just a 7/10
@vick7868
@vick7868 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cooler110033 no, he gets his side B back unless the Pellet itself gets hit, which he can easily protect by putting it behind him.
@mdm_topplelock
@mdm_topplelock 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the content that brought me to this channel. Nice you see you guys come visit your old ways for a change
@icicleditor
@icicleditor 3 жыл бұрын
Mii Gunner’s up-b 3 deserves a honorable mention alone for how many mixups it has, even without a jump.
@meta04
@meta04 3 жыл бұрын
1600/7650 Pac-Man is missing My analysis: 8/4/8/6/4. Range/Mobility go hand-in-hand, and having a side-B and an up-B that both go ridiculously far _and_ a wall jump? Anyway, side-B is powerful enough that it can be used as a combo finisher onstage for a KO, and up-B (while it doesn't come out frame 1 anymore) is pretty fast (his fastest OOS by two frames, and he has a really fast nair). It might be vulnerable to counters, but if camping with offstage bonus fruit has taught me anything, it's that nobody tries to challenge it, and his mobility is good enough to avoid nikita pretty well. The only thing he's really missing is a reflector, which is why I switch to G&W when I play against Ness or Steve or any of those other characters with massive energy balls. (Most of my SDs come out of forgetting I don't have a jump-you can only cancel Bonus Fruit with jump or airdodge.)
@IQUILIYAZ3R
@IQUILIYAZ3R 7 ай бұрын
No pac man?? Not even in honorable mentions???
@diegovaldez927
@diegovaldez927 3 жыл бұрын
I am offended that Inkling wasn't even on the honorable mentions
@nk47a52
@nk47a52 3 жыл бұрын
inkling has great distance but it is easy to deal with if you have lingering hit boxes and the recovery can be a bit linear without a wall to help stall a bit more having a hit box at the start of the move is nice but their is no hitbox through out so even tho it covers great distance it is easy to catch below the ledge and since inkling needs to go to the ledge they can't really change their course cause landing up b has a lot of lag and the drift after the move is over is not that great
@alexssb5023
@alexssb5023 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree on ROB‘s placement. It‘s main and kinda only weakness is that it‘s slow, and that ROB‘s a big body, so he is vournable to pressure. He still has a ridicolous amount of mixups, however. He can go completely high and then to middle stage if he wants to. His double jump gives him a ton of versatility to combine things like gyro/laser to cover his recovery, as well as having a gyro in hand makes his recovery even harder to deal with. But he can run out of gas, and the ROB player also needs to be pretty good to really make his recovery that hard to deal with. All in all I loved how you guys went into detail with all these recoveries 👍
@JacobSC_
@JacobSC_ 3 жыл бұрын
You guys have no idea how much I love the Top 5 videos
@KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69
@KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows Little Mac has the best recovery, it's way too good
@mr.l4770
@mr.l4770 3 жыл бұрын
It's literally scientifically proven
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 3 жыл бұрын
his recovery is much better than mine
@ChroniclZ
@ChroniclZ 3 жыл бұрын
Pits is really good its just a bit slow
@kyresd
@kyresd 3 жыл бұрын
And had no hotbox with little intangibly making it easy to edgeuard with a longasting hitbox
@ChroniclZ
@ChroniclZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyresd yeah true
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyresd doesn't it have a hit box in the very start?
@Alibaba-id1cs
@Alibaba-id1cs 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadkazan7994 it doesn’t
@kyresd
@kyresd 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadkazan7994 No sadly
@ryanramjattan8714
@ryanramjattan8714 3 жыл бұрын
When a man made out of rectangles beat you at jumping back to safety
@torchofgenesis
@torchofgenesis 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@xpluslegend1525
@xpluslegend1525 3 жыл бұрын
I think 1. Pac Man 2. Dark Pit/ Pit 3. K Rool 4. Byleth 5. lITtLe mAC ( the first 4 im serious about)
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 3 жыл бұрын
k rool is very exploitable, just back air him
@kyresd
@kyresd 3 жыл бұрын
These are all just decent except for k rool who's is bad and
@elliotlim8046
@elliotlim8046 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Pit/Dark Pit.... Although the distance is amazing, they can't mixup well and doesnt have a hit box on their Up-Bs which make them open to edgeguarding... Byleth has terrible horizontal recovery.. Once byleth is sent in a terrible downwards angle, she is basically dead
@julo_ghost
@julo_ghost 3 жыл бұрын
Where is Pikachu?
@nintengod6985
@nintengod6985 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyresd his recovery is good for a heavyweight, but yea its kinda bad.
@jerry3115
@jerry3115 3 жыл бұрын
worth noting that steve has several tricks he can do with his up b to make it better. most basically, mashing A at the peak of the launch kicks him out of the elytra and extends his ledge grab range vertically. there is also some really funky stuff you can do with angles do go way farther. MVG has a great video on this stuff.
@cheezyboy2511
@cheezyboy2511 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always respected your channel. You always have very educated opinions that high level players can relate to.
@williamP1307
@williamP1307 3 жыл бұрын
That 2D at 3:58 man. Love you guys for that.
@asquirrel1640
@asquirrel1640 3 жыл бұрын
I think Peach/Daisy definitely deserves at least an honorable mention. She has her up-b, which covers a good amount of vertical distance and can cover an insane amount of horizontal distance, and it has a lasting hit box on the top, making it hard to contest from above. Her side-b is fast, has a hit box, and doesn’t put you in special fall. Her float is good for stalling and moving a large amount horizontally, and you can use her many good aerials while floating to hit opponents trying to edgeguard you. Personally, I think her recovery kit is pretty amazing, with a lot of possible mixups and high mobility in all her moves.
@SteadyFir2048
@SteadyFir2048 3 жыл бұрын
Byleth has the best tether recovery by far with Up B, its range is huge, can connect with a wall, it reverse edge guards anyone by spiking them and gaining alot of height as well, and it can be used multiple times while in the air of it just doesnt connect but a second one would, and you can instantly snap to ledge to negate edge guards or wait and then snap to dodge any edge guard attempts
@TheGOAT_
@TheGOAT_ 3 жыл бұрын
3:58 lol nice reference!
@farewell418
@farewell418 8 ай бұрын
Game and Watch also has a down B technique where off-stage you can open bucket, use your double jump and open bucket again and get a 75% bigger jump than before
@smashboo9249
@smashboo9249 3 жыл бұрын
GnW can actually use bucket to help horizontal recovery if you use it twice in the air
@gr33nsl33v3s
@gr33nsl33v3s 3 жыл бұрын
And throw bacon to defend
@Kami-qu5lk
@Kami-qu5lk 3 жыл бұрын
Steve can recover very high below the Stage when you hold the Stick up and then at the launch you have to flip your Stick quickly down and release it instantly. Additionally if you spam the a or the airdodge button at the end of the recovery you can snap the ledge easier.
@erikg5458
@erikg5458 3 жыл бұрын
I think i know why bayonetta has so many good combos, and its because his recovery, just put it like this, every attack of hid recovery hits into the next part of it, and you can go arround atage without problem, so, if you do this on a platform it will be extremely easy to deal damage and edge guard
@CrazyGecko1000
@CrazyGecko1000 3 жыл бұрын
If Steve goes flat right after receiving rocket boost he goes insanely high, then cancel it with A to get magnet hands and you'll be recovering from the blast zone ez
@RookieGoBoom
@RookieGoBoom 3 жыл бұрын
Piranha Plant: Am i a joke to you?
@Spitfire_94
@Spitfire_94 3 жыл бұрын
That Battle Revolution music 👌 No Pac-Man in honorable mentions? I was surprised considering a lot of top players speak highly of his insanely good recovery.
@emilianoargentero3598
@emilianoargentero3598 3 жыл бұрын
That 2-D gorillaz reference is *smack* NOICE.
@Barbarxssa
@Barbarxssa 2 жыл бұрын
Update: Sora has the new #1 recovery
@MayoMopper
@MayoMopper 3 жыл бұрын
Case for Wii fit trainer: + Floaty + Stall with down b and recover hp + Shoot sun to heal, or charge to full, which also go through some of the stage. + Side B above stage, below stage, change timing, use below and hit with up b recovery, and side b on shield to bounce n hit again with timing. +Up b, deceptively can recover pretty low, can change the vertical height speed by mashing, mix up on horizontal movement with chance to stage spike.
@jimmysmash1236
@jimmysmash1236 3 жыл бұрын
10:13 if you spam the sheild buttons after he’s right near the ledge he can cancel his up special and make it here, just thought I’d say that in case you didn’t know or if anyone reading this didn’t know.
@Sjono
@Sjono 4 ай бұрын
Bayonetta’s recovery looks like witchcraft
@chemarodriguez6699
@chemarodriguez6699 3 жыл бұрын
Yeees, i miss that kind of videos
@youtubeyt5694
@youtubeyt5694 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this might be the first smash top 5 that I 100% agree with, I thought meta knight was going to be #1 but I forgot bayo can have like 5 double jumps.
@ballantyne7349
@ballantyne7349 2 ай бұрын
I feel like Lucas could be an honourable mention. Yes his up B is super exploitable, however if psy magnet is used correctly, you can tether almost every time mixed in with his awesome double jump. When you do need to use up B, it can get you back to ledge from almost anywhere and it’s techable on the stage in order to mixup your opponent from a counter or ledge guard.
@henkiestudios5117
@henkiestudios5117 Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention F-Air
@BN10702
@BN10702 3 жыл бұрын
10:13 air dodging after the up b makes Steve’s range to grab the ledge bigger for some reason.
@mooshy2
@mooshy2 3 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention... Varia Suit Samus and her down b. Bombs, dude. You can literally stall for a full minute offstage waiting for the perfect moment to come back.
@Saustyy
@Saustyy 6 ай бұрын
Sora's recovery is INSANE
@gregm8693
@gregm8693 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much agree with this list. And even if you manage to hit bayo while she tries to recover, if your attack doesn't kill her, she'll still be able to try again no matter where she has been sent to.
@alicon852
@alicon852 3 жыл бұрын
The entire time I was like "where's bayo?" I didn't expect that ngl.
@glxyplays9686
@glxyplays9686 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about steve recovery: If you flick down while the firework is out, you gain a large amount of vertical height.
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