Top 5 Cavity Back Irons | 2018

[@BillyTheKidAudit]

Love the content and in depth discussions that take place on this channel. I'd like to say that whoever produces, edits and chooses the music for your channel is spot on. It feels like a premium viewing experience especially for something like golf which only fanatics of the game can appreciate. The background of the shafts on the wall is pretty original and becoming a staple in what I enjoy about txg. The music choices are Devine and seem to emphasize a quality product. I'm not sure how much discussion takes place between matt and ian prior to filming but it's a very good yin and yang of ideas and insights between the two. Nothing about it says artificial. Great channel guys!

[@clubchampionmedia]

We appreciate that!

[@parnopsiripornpak428]

Totally agree. The chemical between them are amazing. Love it when you put it in the term of Yin and Yang, they really are a match made in heaven.

[@lucasnadeau7243]

I can’t agree more. I’m watching every video as they come out. Wish I could get a fit done, but San Antonio is a little far for me!

[@jackchildree1491]

My favorite thing about TXG is the only difference in watching an old video is the intro, overall quality is consistently so good

[@luisrepreza174]

I'll describe this video with one word: "Inspiring" Matt inspire golfers like me to practice more and to become a better ball striker to enjoy even more every trip to the golf course. You, Ian, motivate players like me to learn more with your in depth analysis on clubs specs/performance. Guys, AWEsome content as always !

[@clubchampionmedia]

Thanks Luis!!

[@timhaigh2484]

I love this format. Hitting into a simulated hole brings the psychology aspect into play. This format helps to answer the question “how much confidence does the club give me when standing over the ball with a difficult shot required?” Also, Matty has a really consistent strike, even among multiple brands. It is fun to watch and inspires me to work at hitting the ball more on-center.

[@jacobmccain8082]

Crazy how much better Matty’s swing looks since the beginning when he had that super long Gumby fold over swing. Well done guys, continued evolution is the name of the game.

[@sdennispga]

Love this format for head to heads...feels very natural and 'real'. It adds the pressure you'd feel on course when actually putting these irons through their paces. What matters most to me (since choosing between heads like this is really splitting hairs) is, do I feel comfortable when looking down at it to hit the shot the hole requires

[@jonathanlythe4736]

Love this style of testing and video guys! Would be fun to see you two go head to head in a little 3 hole challenge on the simulator

[@ryanhorner1675]

I hope you guys keep this format for this year's reviews. The 200 yard hole in one challenge while reviewing irons is brilliant! 👌

[@clubchampionmedia]

We did for sure! You'll see this year's edition on 11th of this month

[@ryanhorner1675]

@@clubchampionmedia can't wait!

[@parnopsiripornpak428]

Oh boy... I don't want to watch your channel anymore. It gives me too much temptation to buy stuffs and the sudden urge to swing some clubs at 2am is making me crazy. Mizuno seems to be growing on Matt for sure. I too, is loving Mizuno more and more. I will really end up buying MP-18SC at this rate. This video is bad...really bad... gives me too much crazy urges and temptation. XD Great stuff guys.

[@Mitch3515]

We want to see Matt play the number 1 Handicap!

[@BathTubWater13]

Love the way this content was presented and it is really awesome to see the testing on simulated holes.

[@matthewpriestley7202]

Where would you see the Ping i200/i210’s ? I see a lot of love from you guys for the rest of the Ping line but not so much the irons.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Irons are definitely good performers, just not quite as strong as these particular 5. These are the ones that performed the best over the course of the year in fittings.

[@matthewpriestley7202]

Thanks for the reply. Was it feel, consistency, lack of spin or too high launch, what was it that kept the i200 out of the top 5. Thanks again for all you do

[@mooremike44]

Great display of ball striking during this video. It seems like all of the high end clubs are so good. Play what looks good to you and find a shaft that fits your swing.

[@jamocleasby7780]

5 great heads, one great video and one awesome channel 💪🏻

[@chadyost444]

Best intro you've had yet

[@matthewn7287]

Being from the UK, I can easily understand everything Ian says but it's pretty impressive how Matt doesn't seem to have any issues understanding his strong(ish) Scottish accent 😅👍

[@davidwilson1107]

Awesome! Would you say those are the top 5 in the store? The new TM 760's look pretty sweet too!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Absolutely, these are the top 5

[@timbuma3693]

If you tend to be a drawer of the ball would you prefer a little less spin with your irons because if too much spin with a draw it’ll just keep going left? I’ve been told this at a club champion fitting and not sure if I believe it. Love the channel btw!!

[@timbuma3693]

Or would more spin help it hold its line more?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Definitely not, more spin will stabilize the ball flight and decrease the severity of the spin axis - so you'll draw the ball less.

[@BillyTheKidAudit]

@@clubchampionmedia .......its misinformation like this that keeps me skeptical about going to cool club or champion fitters. Looking forward to txg coming to California.

[@glennwiebe5128]

Can you be more specific regarding the misinformation? Thanks.

[@rodneygreenwell7620]

Excellent video guys once again it shows that these clubs are very similar and getting fitted is a must to get the best out of them . I was very surprised when you said you had not received the new srixon 785's in store yet I think srixon's logistics department need to get there finger out , you should invite Larry in the studio one day .....

[@clubchampionmedia]

Hopefully they're in the mail! To be fair Srixon was very gracious and brought us the full line for testing right when they were announced, but we haven't received our own demos yet to be fitted with Club Conex and added to the demo matrix for use on an ongoing basis. We've got some videos planned with Larry soon!

[@MurphyGreg]

Can I lease Matt’s swing for a few decades. Love this kind of testing guys.

[@jerroljulian]

I’m amazed the detail of analysis. I’ve played for many years but have never used a software like this before. How comparable is the result on the screen to real life results?

[@philipoftorquay]

Great vlog, seems from testing that a lot of the 'differences' got down to personal choice of the looks, with Matt hitting them consistently.

[@adrianadams6237]

Great video good format. I have the 718 AP2 s with c taper x 130 s fitted and love them. You hit the nail on the head when you said it’s all about the details !! A lot of great performing clubs out there it’s all about looks and feel and the confidence your club and club fitting give you 👍

[@sactrained527]

Love the indepth discussion I have learned a lot from watching both of you great videos.

[@Starz74]

I think a combo set of the srixon would help alot of golfers, myself included. I play Taylormade speedbladez would the srixons be a good option for me. I play the x100's soft stepped one time. Driver swing speed is on average between 100 and 103. I am hoping to make a trip north sometime this spring to see you guys.

[@clubchampionmedia]

For sure, Srixon 585 in the longer irons and 785 in the shorter irons would make a great performing set

[@nicknick7824]

Good vid thanks guys and matty the machine is unbelievable

[@kourt2469]

I know you’ve tested cavity/blade/game improvement in the simulator. I’m curious the benefit of blades coming out of bad lies. If they spin more wouldn’t it help reduce the flier lies compared to a lower spinning game improvement iron?

[@clubchampionmedia]

In theory, yes. A lot of the higher spin comes from the loft configuration though, game improvement irons are usually strong lofted to help with more distance, so a bunch of the spin is knocked off as a result. Game improvement or cavity irons played at traditional lofts would spin around the same as blades.

[@ajayr.5706]

Curious why no Wilson clubs?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Testing our top 5 performers from the shop, we don't currently carry wilson although we will be reaching out to them to get product in for testing.

[@ted501]

I finally chose "718 ap2" because I used "714 ap2" , but it was "fg tour v6" who made me worry until the end... however~ it's too bad that wilson staff are not officially released in South Korea.

[@Raymond-sj7cn]

Tested them all (except the PXG) and was already thinking buying the MP18 SC but than saw some reviews on KZbin about the Wilson Staff FG V6 forged and those reviewers put them in the bag themselves and so decided to try them...and what an irons...soft feel, consistent yardages , great feedback, hold greens, true lofts and much cheaper. Never thought of Wilson staff and what a mistake that was.

[@ajayr.5706]

@@Raymond-sj7cn yeah I got fitted into Wilson C300 forged and they were 200$ cheaper than other manufacturers and performed great.

[@gilnegrete5790]

Just curious why the 718 CB irons do not get much love? Seems to be the red headed step child....

[@austinsnider8864]

I use those same grips, why aren’t I hitting my MP-18 SC irons as far as Matt, probably just need to check my lofts! 😂

[@kcee4160]

I doubt I could play any of these, but I really enjoyed the format! Entertaining as always.

[@jamiejackson702]

I recently purchased the Mizuno MP-18sc irons, absolutely love the irons, when I hit them they are perfect, I just seem to miss them towards the toe. Would love to be fitted by Ian. To bad I'm so far away, in Louisiana.

[@CraigalFun]

Just book a flight

[@petergregg7121]

Love your videos guys! But is there any chance of getting your videos outside an seeing how the perform real world instead of simulation?

[@steinfonell4915]

Top video and not the normal "top 10 2018 mumbo jumbo as you present the best in your opinion due to: perform well sell well, top performer. Then adding your expertise and computer Tools talking numbers. brilliant. Thumbs up!

[@skylarsteel91]

Watched so many of these vids they got me to go get fit. Went in today and have this question: I was hitting a 7 iron with 90 mph of swing speed and was getting spin rates in the mid 7000’s. My stock shot is a cut. My fitter mentioned he would like to see the spin rate for the 7 iron (718 AP2) more in the mid 5000 rate. Does that sound right? He recommended having my irons bent 2 degree strong to compensate for the spin rates since I have plenty of swing speed to get that ball in the air. Thanks in advance for the advice!

[@clubchampionmedia]

7 iron spin doesn't need to be as low as 5000's, something around to mid to low 6000's would be more balanced for you

[@patricktraynor7628]

Hi Ian, do you think you could post the best optimal numbers we should look for from the Driver to wedge? Cheers

[@scottchalk7808]

I have a question cavity back irons generally have high launch low spin can you put a high spin shaft into a cavity back irons to make it more playable

[@jakesmalley6572]

I'm surprised that the Ping i210s are not on here. Are those irons not that good?

[@clubchampionmedia]

They are quite good, but again these 5 tended to give our customers the best results over the course of the year. And to be fair, the 210's came out mid-season so they may be on next year's list

[@Mj-CWO4]

I’d like to see this with the game improvement model from each of these.

[@riaankohn7944]

Love the comparison and testing it on a hole. Just a quick question Ian. I'm looking at new irons in the near future. Been playing x100 shafts for 13 years. What graphite shafts will compare to them? I've been having some issues with my elbow and would like to try some. Problem is in South Africa.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Accra 125 would be a good one to try

[@albertofernandez-sanguino3373]

Great test guys, would love you guys to test the FG Tour V6 from Wilson.... Just tried them last week at at golf fair..... they were just AWESOME!! Keep up the great work

[@clubchampionmedia]

that review is coming in the next few weeks, we just got samples in the shop!

[@albertofernandez-sanguino3373]

Excellent!! Looking forward to seeing the vid and listening to your thoughts

[@ACOUPER100]

Fantastic testing conditions

[@borisdodgingbullets]

I am new to your content but have thoroughly enjoyed each and every release! It's always an enjoyable educational experience! keep up the excellent work!!!

[@davidwilson1952]

would love to see you guys put the lynx VT up against other clubs. I moved from AP2 to them and am shocked in how good they feel and perform (14 handicap)

[@mattsheehan5033]

Matt putt on a clinic for this one! So impressive!

[@anthonyjames4522]

I love ❤️ this kind of testing plus the delay between shots

[@mattj3351]

Another great video and really enjoyed the format, gives you a much better real world comparison 👍

[@ronrund]

Great video. Could you do a test of golf balls for low swing speed players. I am old and slow and I have have noticed that the new Titleist AVX has increased my distances throughout the bag. This surprises me because it is a low spinning ball and I thought that more spin would benefit golfers with slower swing speeds. Thanks for all the great content that you provide for golfers.

[@dexterm7466]

Never seen you mention, or test any epon heads, just curious. Do you not carry them anymore? I play the AF Tour

[@HazyChris_1]

You should do a shaft comparison test of no alignment, spine alignment, and purring. It would be interesting to see if the alignment really does provide a significant measurable benefit.

[@clubchampionmedia]

That is coming soon!

[@HazyChris_1]

TXG Tour Experience Golf - Awesome!!

[@brandoncjgrimes]

Ian just literally described me for the Ap2’s. I have the 716 Ap1s.... I’m about a 15 handicap though. I’m at the point where I’m looking for consistent numbers and not looking for distance so much. Plus they are huge... like the smaller head look of the ap2s

[@mikeshevlin]

Hi Ian. I have heard so much about the z irons and I currently play ap2 718. I'm not to happy with them. Would the new Z785 have better feel the the modus shaft in it?

[@paulnordin5219]

Great episode! Loved the more real-world comparison.

[@hbspencer5527]

Like many have said, loved this type of video and hitting to an actual green. Would love to see a short par three and really see how much the spin on the different short irons effects the ball at landing. Also agree some drivers on narrow or doglegs would test out. #Let's see if it's in his locker.

[@daniel80111]

Hey Ian, random question, do you guys carry xxio products in store? I know you guys think highly of srixon performance wise so was curious to see if xxio made the cut to make your demo wall. Really liked the look of the xxio forged irons. Thanks!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Not currently, but maybe something to look at for the future

[@charlesrohl7635]

Would love to see a review on the new Srixon 585's ?😊

[@clubchampionmedia]

Coming soon!

[@edmc4315]

Charles Rohl I got to try them last Saturday at a demo day looked great and felt even better, looking to get fit for a set this winter.

[@charlesrohl7635]

@@edmc4315 nice Ed. I did as well,but w/out the proper grip and ball it was kinda difficult to tell. Good luck w/yours.

[@bobbyk3469]

I'll take any of the 5 as long as i can get it with Matt's swing.

[@keithfinley2939]

I know it is an "old" player's cavity, but how would the Miura CB 501 or 57 fit in? Less tech...

[@malcolmjedge7861]

Great review as ever. I would have thought you may have tried i210? No pressure on Matty!!!

[@clubchampionmedia]

i210 might make next year's list, they were introduced mid-season so tough for them to get into our top 5 without as much time to test with customers in fitting sessions

[@oldgold5848]

@@clubchampionmedia the 210's are great !

[@grimwalrus9410]

@@clubchampionmediaAP2 716 and 718 comparable with i210 for forgiveness?

[@nzsticky]

Great test guys! Love the format.

[@cliftonwindsor9999]

Probably my favorite video of yours great job!

[@dduplessis399]

I play the original ap2s if I flush one they go a extra 15-20yards. Would you say any players iron in the last 5 years is better than them in general?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Yes more than likely you would get more ball speed and forgiveness from one of the top performers in that category now

[@dduplessis399]

@@clubchampionmedia thank you

[@calle3057]

Why did u go for the titleist ap2 instead of the cb? The cb is an actual cavity back clubhead? Just curious

[@MrLaasby]

what about a top 5 for this year, think we have some pretty nice irons in 2019? :)

[@K008DXR]

Great review guys first time watching but won't be the last.any sign of srixon 585,'s or mizuno 919 forged?

[@donniedavis2852]

Come on!!! Love the channel but I tested all of these except the pxg and bought Wilson V6 irons. Throw them in!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Don't carry them in the shop at the moment, we are contacting Wilson and a number of other manufacturers this week though to get more product in for testing.

[@donniedavis2852]

Awesome! you wont be disappointed. Keep up the great work!My favorite channel

[@Derek_Ryan]

Where does the Apex Pro fit in and what else is comparable? It isn’t a Game improvement, but not quite at the level of these?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Just a bit bigger profile than the x forged, but pretty close. More of a "tech" iron compared to the forged as well, less traditional look and feel

[@dominicmoreno7880]

Being a gamer of the mp 18 sc’s and loving them, what would you consider the biggest difference between them and the srixon’s?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Mp18 sc is a smaller profile, more traditional look and feel

[@samleblanc7642]

Again, I''m loving content of these videos Under the assumption that most high performance irons perform relatively similar would I be able to come in for a fitting to slightly adjust my current set? Seeing what you've accomplished with just lie changes has me intrigued I am interested in fitting my current set more closely to how i am playing now but not sure I'd want to invest in another completely new set for another season or two Can i expect decent results from this type of fitting? I am not opposed to swapping out the shafts for length or flex if that proves beneficial

[@justinstephenson9360]

Matty: I can promise you that watching you hitting new irons a week or so after you got your Srixon's and finding the new irons are better is very funny - but I also suspect we have all been there. When I changed to M1s the AP3s came out a month later

[@JamesThompson-zl2sk]

Hi Ian & Matt Another good video I’ve had the srixon 765 & now have the 785 both in combo with the bladed iron I would definitely say the 785 is a better iron than the 765 not massively mainly in looks behind the ball but do think the srixon irons are the best to make a combo set up with.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Those new 785's are lovely!

[@scotty_teee4226]

Love the test guys!!! Exactly what I have been looking at lately. Couple of questions for you.... I currently have the p770's and would like to know if they would perform similar to these? I'm thinking of going a little smaller in the top line and if there is a better feel that would be great. The last set I tried on a fitting day were the mp18 blades and they felt fantastic. Solid and you could pinpoint the strike a little better than my 770s. Would the 785, mizuno sc and the mp18 blades have that pure forged feel, over something like the 770's? Or is that just myself trying to convince myself I may want other irons haha

[@clubchampionmedia]

P770's are a really good iron too, performed great in our testing. Don't think you'd find enough of a difference to warrant a change, feel is pretty subjective as well.

[@joshheiden4332]

Awesome stuff as usual guys! thanks for the review. is ping coming out with a new forged iblade?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Yup seems so, the 'blueprint' model has had some pictures leaked online

[@anthonytodd5308]

GOOOO GET YOUR CARD Matty!

[@aaronkennon]

Why the AP2 over the CB? I feel like this test was irons closer to the CB.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Based on performance with our customer and testing, better overall performer

[@CedricEHan]

Very good content as usual. How would you rate/categorize MP 18 MMC and i500? I'm on the market to replace my MP 62 to a more forgiving (esp. longer irons) yet playable and good looking set. Have yet to try the PXG. P760, i500, MP18 MMC are on my list too....

[@davidmulholland3497]

Great vlog gents and some quality golf from Matt, mind you I would like to see him hit with the same consistency in a biting north Easterly round Southerness in Scotland 😀

[@brendankahm1133]

Missing out not having FG Tour V6 on the list

[@thomasveal3351]

Great review! These were all high quality products that performed quite similarly. The decision would probably be narrowed by looks and feel. Judging from the commentary in the video, I assume Matt would narrow it down to the Mizuno SC or Srixon Z765 irons. The winner of the Srixon Giveaway will be a lucky person!!!

[@chadgalland2493]

Great video/content. Are you going to review the Taylormade P760?

[@clubchampionmedia]

As soon as we have it, absolutely

[@mathieufournier9208]

I would have thought the i210 would be in that test!

[@macka5515]

Ping suck

[@jeremyneufeld]

Really enjoyed the content! Could you possibly play on an actual course on the simulator?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Yup we can for sure, we'll be looking to integrate more use of the simulator software in the near future.

[@jeremyneufeld]

Great to hear!

[@mp720]

Keep up the outstanding content gentlemen!

[@martingraham6749]

Great content guys, really giving us in depth knowledge, thanks 😊 👍🏾

[@oldgold5848]

Great idea for this vid guys, both the comparison and the hitting to a hole. That said if that is the stroke index 17........ I would need a backpack to carry all the balls I would need.

[@paulbown3960]

Loved the video boys Sat down with a nice beer and your video Perfect!

[@christopherlafreniere7141]

I know we were all sitting here rooting for the irons in our own bags to perform well =)

[@mathieugagnon3230]

Ah ah go go go X-forged!!!

[@charlesrohl7635]

👍 I hit them,(they seamed nice)lower ball flight and better dispersion than my sldr's w/caliber shafts, but w/out the right grip and better ball than range balls jury's still out. Love the look of them.

[@bencoots1420]

Would love to see more videos like this!

[@2016Madman]

Hey guys, I’ve been in the market for new irons and I have been eyeing the cobra f8 variable length irons. Just wondering what you guys think about them?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Hoping to test them soon

[@2016Madman]

Awesome Thanks guys!

[@randymahony8157]

Just wondering when the 585 review is coming?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Hopefully soon!

[@gateslattes4686]

Great testing!

[@neutrino61]

Good idea this concept of head to head comparison. To be honest I missed a few cavity backs. Ping, TM, Cobra. And what about the companies that are not as big as the other ones? I guess you took those which are best selling in the store. Am I right? But anyway a very interesting video. Very nice intro pictures/ scenes but I surely do miss the former music clips, 😉.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Correct! These are the top 5 in the shop according to how they performed with our fittings this year

[@Your_Mailman_Grows_7121]

This was a really fun video. Anyone else though subscribed and not getting updates on their phones etc. when a new video is released? And yes I'm subscribed and notification button is on. I used to get them all the time but not anymore?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Strange, unless something was disabled on your phone specifically for updates from the youtube app

[@robertatherton4094]

I sure would have liked to see the Ping i210.

[@ipsc2alpha]

You two should play the hardest indexed hole.

[@LorenzoOrense]

How much for Matty's swing?

[@banditbaker1675]

Loved this new H2H test format, very creative. Gee Matt what had you done to upset Ian so much? That had to be the Par3 from Hell, I could have hit a 100 shots without getting anywhere near the Green. Mind you I would probably be using my Driver! ⛳🤣🤦‍♂️

[@clubchampionmedia]

🤣🤣

[@8snowman88]

Enjoyed this style vs driving range, would be cool to change the conditions on the simulator. Maybe add some wind next time 😉

[@Kitty-s1q3x]

loved it!!!!! more please more please! more Mizuno talk also :)