Top 5 Most Controversial Mr. Olympia Decisions

[@JoseA1998]

RIP Nasser El Sonbaty he was one of the best 🙏💙

[@thulsadoom2719]

Yes one of the best but not the best.

[@nunzioforpresident]

In my opinion he was the best bodybuilder of the '90s along with Dorian.

[@toitzv3558]

Thulsa Doom that’s what he said you fkn idiot

[@bilalamarumosi8282]

Got a chance to meet him in San Diego at 24hr fitness a few months before he flew back to Egypt and he was just as humble and cool as could be.

[@ubermensch4875]

José F. Arndt He was a jerk.

[@thetrooperonacaciaave3386]

BRING BACK THESE BODYBUILDING HISTORY VIDEOS

[@NicksStrengthandPower]

;)

[@nikosmantzios4930]

Killers eddieeee

[@Twosidesofthemicpodcast]

He just did 🤨

[@owenh906]

11:04 is one hell of a cool pose

[@elassassino9127]

The way Nasser was robbed will never be forgotten, RIP Nasser we won't forget you

[@JoeMama-uk5ct]

Phil Heath was robbed in the Mr Bubblegut 2018 contest

[@aran125]

Hammy B He deserved to lose 100% in 2018.

[@Mo-kl4fb]

He wouldn't have been robbed if he didn't have to go to the hospital to give birth

[@colinmurphy3478]

Victor and Nasser got robbed. You can't tell me politics didn't interfere with those decisions.

[@skatevidcentral]

Yep, IFBB wanted white poster boys as Mr O not an arab or latino, it's obvious.

[@RenegadeRanga]

Robberies since day 1.

[@mukinfagic69]

@@skatevidcentral you might want to check the history of Mr.O winners up to that point....

[@stannjob]

Dorian won majority of poses, put the pipe down

[@neilesen7130]

Victor and Nasser got robbed. And so was Günter Schlierkamp in 2002.

[@TheSpritz0]

The 2007 Victor Martinez would have OBLITERATED the 2019 Brandon Curry!!!

[@ernestsalazar8026]

Yes he absolutely would

[@DunkinBiscuits]

Definitely, at a quick glance he looked very similar to phil heath

[@pryme2013]

Dorian's arms, especially the left, are the worst arms to ever win an Olympia.

[@leonardoesnard8305]

ahhhhhh chooChris Dickerson.......excuse me

[@vad-yan4921]

Mr M it is actually Chris Dickerson, Moredan Justaman is right, Google some of his front double bi pics from his win in Mr. Olympia of 1982

[@the_golden_eagle]

Shown roden

[@pandahsykes602]

Mr M yea Dorian came in looking like shit VS Nasser .

[@bear_bailey1483]

That’s cause his left arm was the torn bicep and tricep arm. His right arm was just a torn bicep. This is well known.

[@BDT27]

Honorable Mention: 1979 Mr. Olympia, Frank Zane vs Mike Mentzer where Mike got a PERFECT SCORE and Frank Zane still won, how does that even happen???

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

Prejudging vs. actual show. I remember that contest. The consensus was that mentzer blew it at the show with a less than perfect presentation. I think Frank’s wins over Robby were closer. Then again I think Robby at his peak was better than Arnold.

[@JustCauseVids]

So glad to see a video from Nick that isn't a current events or bodybuilding news, these are the Nicks S&P videos that i remember subscribing for!

[@deej8760]

This is possibly Nicks best video!

[@CoachCalledRizz]

Hard agree on this.

[@michaelmayers3622]

@ryan rogers diagree

[@goal-goal-goalllllll]

I agree. I remember 2/3 years ago being subbed to luimarco and nick for all my bodybuilding history. I don't like the new videos as much but still subbed and watched because I like seeing nick do well and love the way he handles people when they try to beef with him. Good dude all round ✌️

[@zeno1298]

@@goal-goal-goalllllll yeha i aggre but theres not so much more history ge could cover

[@IronIsSolace]

18:00 even in an old low resolution picture you can see the cross striations in Tom Platz's legs. He may not have ever won a Sandow but he is definitely deserving of the title of Quadfather.

[@flatmatrix360]

Why call them controversial? Call them what they are robberies!!!

[@pragchopper]

Year 2050 : Top 5 most controversial mr golden era

[@kcd850]

I like your comment :D but it is a fanvoting, it can only be controversial if nick had manipulated that.

[@DT-tq8ku]

“He was being groomed by Joe Weider” You got that right!

[@michaelpaquette4617]

Yep, Weiders ruined the sport.

[@jreddd1339]

exactly...one contestant beat no one to win olympia...unreal how can you count that win win you biggest rivals are not there

[@nikhilkambli2008]

he was muscle worshiping. lol

[@joejohn2892]

always a fan of the bulky 71 Arnold. wished more pics were around. He was better bigger

[@spodergibbs5088]

joe john2 agreed

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

Don't forget 1974

[@gerryiannuzzi5122]

1981 takes it for me. Bodybuilders who were better than Franco that contest. 1. Platz, 2. Dickerson, 3. Padilla, 4. Callander and a good case for Tinnerino too.

[@ironman2326]

Make a video on "What if Arnold, alone, still lost the 71 Olympia?"

[@dr.heinzdoofenshmirtz4463]

John Cena and Drax

[@rushankjoshi6602]

Nasser EL sonbaty clearly Won 1997 Mr Olympia. Rip Nasser.

[@pandahsykes602]

• Rushank yes Nasser was truly a beast , I think he really intimidated a lot of the industry back in the day and the judges didn’t want to give him the title in 97 due to him being a black sheep and dorian a golden child ... IMO this led to indirectly make Nasser only comfortable when he was max weight , even off season which definitely lead to his death in 2013 ...

[@Elbowspurs]

Dories had an amazing mullet so he deserved it👌👌💪🏼💪🏼

[@ThelegendAtlas]

“I’m Nick here, with Nicks Strength and POWER!”

[@ulisesxavier1116]

Dylan Gorbet Even Hadi was shaken by it

[@Steve-tl5ii]

*Larry Wheels has entered the chat*

[@tsstep2785]

Steve where’s back guy when you need him

[@mcgarner1992]

POWWWAAAAA

[@davidwicklin9943]

In 1980 Arnold was not near his 1970's competitor form or shape. But overall he looked well enough to win. As a whole he was just better. Mentzer was down from his "perfect" form, Zane looked too small compared to Arnold and Walker looked too smooth despite bigger legs. No way that Franco should have won in 1981. Tom Platz and Danny Padilla both looked better than Franco.

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

Jim Johnson Did you see his thighs, or more accurately lack of thighs?

[@newhousel]

Padilla should have won the 1981 Olympia. Perfect physique.

[@FehadBilgramiChannel1]

Der Häusel agree

[@TheSmoshJuniors]

Backstage at the 1980 Olympia Arnold was starting sh*t with other bodybuilders and kept babbling about how he wanted 2 weightclasses at the Olympia but wouldn’t give a reason for it. Boyer Coe asked Arnold to give a reason for wanting this, but in response Arnold just called him a baby. Mentzer got pissed, stood up, and told him off like a child and they almost came to blows

[@sohansaha5836]

I really like that you put the 81 Olympia above the 80 Olympia, since Arnold wasn’t too bad, but Franco clearly was not the winner

[@astrono_mee]

Thanks for the video Nick, Nasser is really the biggest uncrownd Mr Olympia ever , really sharp placings

[@CaptainAbmerica]

Nick, was Lee Haney the only Mr.Olympia that won more than 3 times without any controversial victories? Just 8 straight undisputed victories.

[@GUMP69]

Good question. Apparently, yes.

[@shubham.....1mehto]

Yes he was consistent throughout his reign

[@NeoNero83]

Did Ronnie Coleman have any really controversial wins?

[@_Only_Zuul]

lee haney is the true and real GOAT!!!

[@cimi93x]

Yep. Lee was untouchable during his reign, flawless from the back, strong front, small waist, good arms - the full package. Could probably win a couple more if Dorian didn't show up. Could probably beat Dorian for a couple of years too, but he didn't want to play the size game.

[@Scortd]

I believe 2017 needs to be included in this lineup or future similar lineups for sure. The fact that a pregnant Phil health wins a 7th sandow and William Bonac, who was clearly the most complete bodybuilder of that night, was placed 3rd only due to his height is an example of judging by favoritism/namesake over physique .

[@kindcannon8270]

This is why people watch you, this video is very well researched and composed!!

[@KOOLEE88]

Literally just got done watching the Nasser vs Dorian vid. You rock Nick, thank you for all you do.

[@itzm1ke]

The OGs of this channel are loving this vid

[@durybrian]

Nick has a good speaking voice for these video's. Thanks for taking the time to make them.

[@VikingCowboy1]

100% agreed. I was at the 97 Mr. O in the LBC. During pre judging it was obvious Nasser was 1st. Even Lee could have been higher. It was a very controversial show. Great vid as Always Nick👍🏼 Train Hard Win Easy 💪🏼Haus

[@ADHD55]

Nick I've been following you since 2016 only reason I still watch KZbin thanks for the great quality content all these years

[@pspauld]

Nick, you do a fabulous job as a documentarian of bodybuilding history on YT (and generally). I come to your channel nearly daily to take in your volumes of well-researched and narrated work that is entertaining while educating new generations about all eras, including the high regard for the classic, statuesque physique. As a journalist myself, I appreciate your integrity and clear view of how to report ethically and with principle. Keep it up!

[@josephabrams4002]

The head judge of the 1981 Mr Olympia, Roger Schwab, owned the gym that I went to and he was a brilliant guy with unquestioned integrity... in light of the controversy from 1980, he had written some letters to the ifbb to try to ensure the fairness and competence of the judging. The sense I got was that there were forces at work beyond the jydging that prevented a fair decision... even Frank Zane said that Danny Padilla should have won.... John Hanssen did a great video with him specifically about the 1981 Olympia and Rick Wayne wrote some great pieces on both the 1980 and 81 Olympia.... to me, those two are the ones that stand out the most... I really wasn't following the sport in 1997....

[@bendyman_72]

It was all politics and always will be.

[@IDiggPattyMayonnaise]

At the end of the day it's all business.

[@phoenixrisin2269]

Platz!

[@josephabrams4002]

@@phoenixrisin2269 Padilla and Platz should have been first and second.. I would have given it to Padilla though

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

joseph abrams Platz was the freakiest. Padilla was the best balanced. Padilla had no weak points.

[@-D-100]

Agree 100% Nick. I still shake my head at the 97 Olympia.

[@KUzZ911]

Nasser got ripped off Mr Olympia title against Dorian Yates. He looked way too better in every way. I was shocked Yates won.

[@POLITICALYCORRECTify]

IMO Sergio Olivia was the most ahead of his time. Unbelievable. Thighs bigger than his waist

[@rocknrollrebel1000]

Can't stop watching your vids lately,Got me back into lifting again (naturally of course)

[@Somchai007]

Great video Nick. As a bodybuilding fan I appreciate your passion for the sport and the work you put into these videos. Fantastic!

[@daineedwards5090]

shawn ray also got robbed when he competed with dorian two years one year when dorian biceps tore . shawn easily looked better

[@badzioch64]

I never understood the controversy. I always thought Arnold looked the best.

[@patricktuorto]

Going back to your roots, the history vids are what made your channel the best to begin with, good job Nick!

[@Caje-zf8md]

I've been an observer of the iron culture for decades and I'm glad to see that you are now starting to see some of these champions for what they really are. I'm still waiting for someone to call out Frank Zane whom Weider convinced the bodybuilding community that Zane was the most perfectly proportioned man despite the fact that he had no muscle mass and was still given the Mr. Olympia title.

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

Pretty impressive that he beat guys so much bigger than he was. I thought and was small until I saw him in person. It was his development that carried him. He was so developed he didn't look human. I can't describe it but he looked unreal.

[@mohamedbikary]

I do really enjoy these type of videos of nick educating us about bodybuilding history

[@markevans7244]

Dorian still had Nasser from the back in '97, although I agree Nasser should have won. Dorians mid-section was awful that year.

[@satinderjit4]

Jason Genova could have beaten Brandon Curry.

[@dankcosmos2435]

You can hear how salty Nick got when recounting #1. I appreciate the passion.

[@lashawndajackson6181]

Best bodybuilding channel bro. So informative and mature.God bless you bro

[@Batman11680]

The 2019 line up literally looked like a 212 class.....

[@deej8760]

This video has been a long time coming Nick, Great Job!

[@diogogambini7018]

I honestly feel like Dorian deserved to win: - Back Double - Front Lat Spread - Back Lat Spread - Side Chest (controversial but Dorian wins for me because of overall thickness and density) - Side Tricep (same thing) - Front Double is the one pose where you can see the injury. Even if he gets last on that pose is just one. What about all the others. And Nick himself has said this before, that in order to dethrone a raining Mr. Olympia you have to without any doubt beat the champion. To me Nasser didn’t do it. I feel like most people judge that Olympia mostly on the front double bicep because is the most popular picture, and forget that is 1 pose out of a total of 11.

[@rem1262]

Dorian looked like a fridge: - Deformed melting toothpicks for arms. - Small shoulders - Small chest compared to the rest of the guys (Nasser, Kevin etc) - No ab definition - Bloated Waist spilling out over the sides He should have been 3rd place after Shawn Ray IMO, that ugly ass showing of Dorian shouldn't have been rewarded at all.

[@Juanknes]

But that front double biceps look awful. This alone should put him out of the top 3.

[@bestcryptoearningsites7149]

I agree with you in the majority of those mandatories, except side chest (i think Nasser edged him, but it was very close). The problem is that the assimetry was too much and wasted it's phisique flow.

[@mollywop1128]

Nick's knowledge of bodybuilding history is insane

[@ironman2326]

People think Arnold should've lost 1980 because they compare him to his best self. The reality is Arnold can come in 90% and hang with the rest at their 100%.

[@brucebutler8905]

Iron man I cover there faces with one finger in screen and dude is dry and grainy asf. Bigger arms even with his chest. Dudes are salty

[@carlosg3799]

You don't know what you talkn bout kid

[@asianhavoc1872]

@@carlosg3799 shut up bro......just🖕

[@tasleemahmad6033]

YES the bodybuilding history vids are back! Love it, Nick!

[@elassassino9127]

Nothing like Nasser robbery in 1997, RIP uncrowded Mr Olympia

[@hyperrealitytv3557]

A perfect example of great sports journalism.thorough and objective.good job.enjoyed it

[@marijancorluka4500]

1997 mandatory poses: Front double bi - Nasser Abs and thighs - Nasser Front lat spread - Dorian Side chest - Nasser Side tricep - Dorian Back double bicep - Dorian Back lat spread - Dorian That's 4/7 poses for Dorian, not counting the relaxed poses. 24:13 That's quite a ridiculous statement you made there Nick.

[@DarrylDanceton-ok9zy]

Nick, I'm a new subscriber of your channel because of the high quality, honesty and integrity that you have in compiling these. Have you thought of applying for a jury at the Olympia? They need ppl like you to obliterate the unnecessary politics. Let body-building be body-building. Cheers.

[@moosepunch8482]

The Victor and Jay still upsets me

[@brandonwallick7504]

Good video here. I remember hearing Dorian won most of the poses in the 97 O but it’s hard to imagine. He definitely didn’t win the front double bicep.

[@Mo-kl4fb]

18:04 oh lord where are those quads nowadays?? holy hell look at those striations

[@ondrejtyc7578]

Good old Nick's History and Controversy is BACK!

[@lion123leapor4]

1997 the most controversial and thats why dorian yates in guilt took his face off from the scene i must say as a great sportsman he must handover his Mr olympia to naseer . Even now he can do that in memory of gr8 naseer RIP

[@TheSmoshJuniors]

The 1981 Olympia was the worst robbery of a competitor, but the 1980 was the biggest robbery overall because we the fans were robbed of seeing Mike Mentzer reach his full potential.

[@heavymetalfitness2091]

Sleaze Guy If you were a mender fan sure. But 1981 was the worst because it was ridiculously obvious franko was undeserving. 1980 Arnold was 80%. But he posed to his strengths so it wasn’t as obvious because he still had blowout poses. Franko looked like a sausage

[@jacobbrandon8164]

Lol when someone beats arnold at the front double bicep and the side chest (Mike Mentzer) he defeats arnold but granted it was his worst year but still shouldn't have won

[@RichardRatner.1972]

Agreed Mentzers condition was outstanding, kind regards Richard U.K

[@tdane5017]

Mentzer looked good but not blowing Arnold away. It really wasn't like a nassar and Yates deal or jay and victor.

[@MarkoMarkovina]

Mentzer was flat as fuck... anybody who thinks he should have won is dreaming

[@apu_apustaja]

*Nick's Contro and versial*

[@ryanscanlan9875]

That was a killer video Nick. Absolutely loved it. Please make more!

[@chrisjohnson5979]

There was no controversy on the 2019 Mr Olympia Brandon Curry won fair and square

[@perrywhitledge4005]

I saw Nassar walking through the Nashville airport and was totally blown away at how MASSIVE the man was. All I could think was how in the wide world of sports is this guy going to fit in one seat on the plane LOL!!!!

[@Goldensphinx]

Outstanding video Nick! One of your best ever!

[@moreno4592]

The LUI use to make videos like this dayum I miss thos days

[@Irkkan]

moreno4592 beep wassup

[@DudeKentucky]

I appreciate your honesty to the fans above everything else Nick's Strengthen and Power, you do a wonderful job for all the hard work that you put into these videos. Through your videos I became a fan of the sport of bodybuilding and your complete honesty is the gold standard of this sport, in my opinion. I look forward to your next video, have a good day.

[@peterbuilttough3406]

No doubt Victor definitely won that show hands down! Way underrated

[@brandondurant1381]

Glad to see these videos back

[@DrNeat]

Why do I feel incomplete without the full introduction?😭

[@Rocky_Rdz]

this is the type of stuff that i liked to watch! your new content is great too, but this type of content is what got you going brother!

[@mattfromwiisports7701]

I miss hedge

[@bjmw93]

This is great. Been a subscriber for a couple years now and this is the kind of thing I subbed for. The news videos and drama stuff can be interesting sometimes, but you're so good at these bodybuilding history and physique analysis videos. Keep it up!

[@tommyjones1891]

Perfect video length for my cardio today

[@binky1135]

tommy jones pussy

[@josephabrams4002]

@@binky1135 da fux a matta witchu?

[@richie9029]

Love these oldschool nicksstrength and power videos,!

[@andresfernandez2405]

I'm not happy Brandon was the best one there, but he did deserve 1st place. As for 2nd, I can definitely see how Hadi got robbed.

[@jaretboston20]

Solid video Nick. Love the history focused videos

[@milo5182]

Who would pay to see one man on stage posing alone

[@olegaleksandrov2085]

Finally! Tha't why I'm subsribed to this channel. Because of such back history videos. Thanx!

[@devillarratt4134]

Nasser was 100% better than Dorian that year

[@frederickjohnpicarello1909]

I watched all 5' Nick & I couldn't agree with you more on the 97' Mr Olympia..I mean when you look at them side by side especially!..its not even close! Aesthetically, conditioning & overall mass.. Nasser had him beat everywhere!

[@dibblidyy]

Awesome vid Nick! These are important parts of history to all who enjoy following bodybuilding. I also have a recommendation that you do a sort of comparison video, year by year of the level of improvement/change in the mr olympia physique.

[@nf1]

Honestly the 1980 Olympia wasnt a huge robbery. Arnold wasnt at his best, but looking at the photos he was still better than the other guys.

[@ViralKiller]

In terms of an underpants model. This is a serious competition. Striated glutes and calves. It was a disgrace

[@GibDozer1]

I kind of agree. His posing was still light years ahead of the majority of the guys onstage. Yeah, he had some weaknesses but Arnold always knew how to hide them.

[@josephohrablo4866]

Nf 1 Arnold’s legs were about 17 inches . His triceps were non existence , and zero back thickness at all . There was at least 5 guys who easily beat him.

[@jackfrostie4895]

I love Arnold but I have to say I disagree. Frank Zane should have won that year no doubt.

[@Sean-if7rp]

Jack Frostie Zane was coming back from a serious accident, he was definitely not in great shape compared to 77-79

[@nicksalvatore5717]

Miss these videos. I remember when you were sub 100k. Look at you now. Absolute legend!

[@a.s.vanhoose1545]

Oh, dance with Sonbaty I want to feel the heat with Sonbaty...

[@yohanandoe5767]

Good job @NickStrengthAndPower! I rarely comment. Regarding your question on our thoughts of the video format, I would like to say you did great. I am into bodybuilding but do not like watching any of it. Many times I found myself wanting to click the upper right (x) on my screen, but you kept the it the subject level throughout the presentation; hence I watched it through it's entirety.

[@EIRE1980]

2019 went exactly how it should of. Curry looked alot harder and cut, definitely think he deserved the O.

[@drdada104]

We miss those kind of interesting topics that u used to post!! Bring that old style Back Nick !! Keep it up

[@josephohrablo4866]

Danny padilla coming in 5th in 81 was the most controversial call of all time in bodybuilding .

[@anasabbas98]

Thank you nick for these history videos. U teach me so much about bodybuilding’s history so keep it up stud

[@patrickbateman4541]

Dorian to this day still thinks he deserved the 97 win. Delusional.

[@pandahsykes602]

Patrick Bateman completely delusional .. funny thing is you can SEE on dorians face the defeat in his eyes : his ego told him that Nasser was bigger , and better . You could see happiness on Nassers face during the side by side posing with Dorian ; because in his mind and rightfully so , he was about to beat Dorian . Of course though the judges had to give it to Dorian because how could they give Olympia to the weird German Egyptian that everyone thought was an asshole over the beloved golden child Dorian ? I love Dorian but he is full of himself sometimes , just check out his interviews he says a lot of truth but he never admits his flaws . Nassers ego definitely took a hit from that misjudging in 97 and I think it indirectly added to his need to always be the biggest even off season which lead to his early death in 2013

[@innosanto]

Not delusional, Dorian was better in some poses, worse in others. Better back, better glutes, etc

[@The-Esoteric-One]

Wrong, Dorian won most of the mandatories and posed better

[@stannjob]

Patrick Bateman I will tell you the meaning of Delusional: Coming here and post a shitty and wrong comment about a contest that you obviously dont know how is judged. Thats delusional bro. Dorian won majority of poses and you obviously dont know the story behind Dorian on 97. First, mature and then do your homework and do some research.

[@jordanlaurenzo2063]

Patrick agree , everyone else that thinks Dorian beat Nasser are plain stupid! Nassers back was his weak point but still that yr his back was good. Only pose Dorian beat him was back . Nasser beat Dorian in all phases , conditioning, fullness , ascetically, the separation , I mean guys you are being biased or you just don’t know how bodybuilding is judged! That’s why it’s controversial ! Everyone and their mother has stated Nasser is the uncrowned 97 mr Olympia! Don’t be ignorant and sit there and say Dorian should have won , with fucking torn muscles, shit conditioning and was flat! Plus in dorians poses he was massively off in the eyes. He looked like he was in pain and struggling. The overall package is what counts and Nasser beat him in every aspect but being a previous mr Olympia! Stop injecting opinions that there are nooooooo factual or valid points to make an argument!

[@gregoryrea7071]

Learned so much from this video !!! Thanks for your hard work in making this!!

[@mick998r]

I'm really glad you had the 97 Olympia in pole position. Excellent video once again Nick. How's about a top 5 video of the most convincing Mr Olympia over their reign?

[@DonaldSeymourjr]

Thoroughly enjoyed this Nick.

[@panathatube]

I can't believe it a couple of minutes ago i was watching the nasser el sonbaty vs Dorian Yates video what a coincidence...

[@SuperIrbo]

Its not a coincidence, we're watching you.

[@OCV185]

Now this was awesome to watch!! Very well explained from beginning to end !! 🙌