Top 5 Most Reliable High Performance Motorcycles

[@yammienoob]

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[@sendit7777]

But yamms, you forgot the sv-650 in your line up. 😂 yeahhhhhhh.

[@wouterpetersen4715]

Your wrong the gsxr 1000 k1 makes 160 hp not 140!!!

[@pranav717]

i have a 150 cc motorcycle but this channel makes me want the 600s and 1000s

[@user-wi4jt8bs8v]

Don't. 150cc is faster.

[@toumakoushik31416]

Samee, where do you live, bro??

[@chaitanyashamanewadikar6032]

Us moment homie

[@pranav717]

@@toumakoushik31416 Visakhapatnam

[@nonyabusiness4151]

I started on a 390 and now also have a V4 800. Strictly engine, the 800 always just accelerates till about 260kms. The gearing is also longer and displacement bigger, so I decide what gear to be in.. Ofcourse your refering to racebikes, so those will be different. More extreme? Torque varies.

[@KyleReese-vt8bo]

Gixxers never lose compression. They get wrecked looooong before they die. As a kyle, I have but 60,000 miles on my 07 gsxr600. Not 1 issue.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Seen what the Stuntfreaks Team put their K5 Gixxer engine through, and how it's held up? Thing is like a nuclear cockroach. It never dies. They should make a dystopian Mad Max movie around the thing.

[@henryairconcepts2999]

Not 1 issue are you sure ? K7 K6 are famous for the oem rectifier flop, it's installed in front of the radiator. Gets overheat and kill your battery. Other than that it's reliable.

[@KyleReese-vt8bo]

@@henryairconcepts2999 No issues. Replaced the coils and rectum fryer at 50,000 because they are just old. I'm also almost never above 9k rpm, nothing is working too hard.

[@The1Fist]

Suzuki replaced my rectifier when it died after 8 years...for free...including labor.​@@henryairconcepts2999

[@cobimoni]

Gixxer Thou sounds about Right!

[@nullbb4939]

"We got Suzuki on the list, Honda on the list, what do you think is coming next?" Me: Ya- KZbin: *Plays Ads* Me: ok

[@KhaderKhanDurrani]

same happened to me 😹

[@RealMrRobinson]

As a premium user, i cannot resonate with your comment

[@gothbro112]

ad block is free... haven't had a youtube ad in years

[@williamhardes8081]

"Beat on it like a rented mule". 🤣Pure gold Yammie.

[@samanderson5611]

My 2002 fireblade has been such a reliable machine. Damn I love that bike! Would like something newer someday, but I don't care about the tech upgrades. Plus, she is in phenomenal condition at 22 years old!

[@thakrad2196]

BROTHER we have the same motorcycle. I love my 954 🤙🏼

[@samanderson5611]

@@thakrad2196 Hell yeah, BROTHER!

[@behindbarsmototouring898]

Desmo service on the Diavel comes in at 36,000 miles. Also, the ZX-14 is VERY reliable, especially since it shares so much with the Kawasaki Concours.

[@georgehanson2978]

Yep-the L twin, air cooled, 2 valve Duck engine is very reliable. 👍🏻🏍️

[@rhettdemille4404]

Props to the ZX-10s out there! Great bikes.

[@solaces]

Can confirm everything you said about the gsxr1000. I bought a used 2011 with 9k miles for 7k off a buddy. Long story short a month later I had a $3,000 repair

[@toowheela2111]

Love the work rate Yam. Keep them coming man.

[@tarnishedsquid2967]

It's wild the valve clearance intervals on the 09 & MT 10. fuggin solid!!

[@colinquick9061]

@tarnishedsquid2967 I've been riding the shit out of mine for 4 years and no major issues. Solid bike for sure 👌

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Seen the turbo MT-09 being flogged within an inch of its life? Holds up fine.

[@Jason.1999]

yep super reliable betting Beaten and no problems so far

[@ApexEater]

Original Aprilia/Rotax v990 60° Vtwin. Owned 3. Currently have a 2001 rsvr track bike with 22,000 miles. Valves never needed adjusted on the 2 street bikes. Sold those 2 street bikes with over 70,000 miles. Not as powerful as a modern liter bike but I've never been enamored with 200 horsepower specs anyways. Similar reliability to the suzuki sv650. I had a Vstrom 650 with 67,000 when I sold it. The notes from all valve checks showed it never needed a shim from the previous owner.

[@JTVlogs.247]

I have 2 K1200 GT BMW’s and it’s a good balance and over 40,000 miles and still rolling

[@AmazingHaze420]

I bought my first big bike two years ago, a Ducati Monster 937cc and although the engine gets too hot too fast in Lisbon I just love the bike and can’t think about another brand anytime soon.

[@pl7868]

Great Video Thx for it , the focus here seems to be on newer bikes with huge power numbers most people don't need on the street to get to Grandma's in a hurry , almost any litre bike or above built from like 1980 in japan are very reliable an go faster than you want to try to duck under a moose on , hard to fault a busa for a single guy to take a road trip on really .

[@langhamp8912]

I personally like my bikes with a lot of electronic aids, with the understanding that such electronics make the bike considerably less reliable but far safer. Insurance companies, who presumably keep detailed statistics on this type of stuff, give you insane discounts if you have ABS. So while older bikes from before circa 2016 can be reliable, they're also quite difficult and dangerous to ride.

[@tannerwade6762]

Im beginning my msf course tomorrow!!

[@kingdomkid9883]

You got this bro

[@speedgoat2824]

I used to work for a motorcycle wholesale dealer and we got in a turbocharged ZX14 with nitrous one time. Completely built engine as well. The thing is, you couldn't ride it across the parking lot hardly without fouling a plug. It was wide open or nothing.

[@zxjuan0]

Valid!!! I have a ZX6R and I’m not offended kawi didn’t name the list THANK YOU PAPA YAMS

[@bobbobby8392]

i know an fjr 1300 isn't known for being sporty, but it's one of the most reliable bikes and has surprisingly good performance. 100k mile bike easy with routine oil changes.

[@Elementpunx]

Off topic but I just got my A license in Europe today. I started watching this channel like 5 years ago and it took me a while (knew that if I pass the exam I will buy motorcycle) because I was trying to be reasonable. I think I have enough knowledge and I am mature enough to start riding. Mostly thanks to you Yamm. Thank you for all the tips. Gonna get a Duke 390 next year :)

[@nonyabusiness4151]

I have a 2021 Duke 390. I love the bike but doubt you will choose it over others.. Test ride it first, buy used. Try other bikes, too. You have an A license.. Are you sure you want a 390?? 😅

[@Stormface16]

I started on an MT-07 with my A license as well and already thinking to upgrade. Get yourself something used, which you can limit to A2 level (48hp) and remove the limiter as soon as you feel very comfortable. Otherwise you will be jumping around bikes like me... :D

[@Elementpunx]

@@Stormface16 didnt think about limiting but that is a great idea ❤️

[@Pudekz51790]

Correction: the V4 engine on Ducatis don’t use desmo valve-trains anymore. The V2 still does.

[@Fearless154]

Incorrect, only Multistrada V4 and Diavel V4 don't have desmo valves, but Panigale V4 and v4r and Street Fighter V4 do have desmo valves; the name of the engine is literally "Desmosedici Stradale."

[@jh97001]

Wrong, panigale still uses desmo valves. DESMOSEDICI.

[@maximilian8536]

​And the Multistrada V4 RS because it has the engine of the streetfighter ​@@Fearless154

[@randygarcia4565]

I had 4 CBRs, 2 600rr (203 and 2006 Repsol) and 1 1000rr and a 929rr... Besides electronics, this bike will never die.

[@yaboi6006]

Love the repsol graphics

[@MxGRhythmlModsMusicGamingl]

2 2006 and 2007 cbr1000rr I have in my garage must be lemons because they both blew up with lots of maintenance

[@exothermal.sprocket]

GSX-R600, 750, and 1000 tossed into that mix. Also R6. Also ZX-6R. Can't break these things.

[@zxjuan0]

bro these outro are the best. Forever the best outro on KZbin 2024

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Speaking of reliable Yamahas.... the MT-09 and MT-07 get turbos in Australia and get beat on by a stunt rider, ripping off rear tires, doing dank noonies. They hold up fine. The -09 makes twice the stock horsepower and holds up fine.

[@dantimber]

Really good. Excellent editing. Thanks!

[@Jash_F]

Zh2 is a gem what a unit, would love to get one in the future and i hope they keep pushing the tech on it even more!

[@isso09]

Very nice video! However a rockform mount + case ruined the camera on my iphone due to vibrations from the handlebars. They sell vibration dampeners now but I’m not chancing my new phone on that. Apple is aware of the issue and they won’t fix it even if your phone is under warranty. Buyer beware

[@leopulling7080]

Hey Yammie, love your videos. I would love to see a video with your opinion of the Aprilia RS 457

[@mikehester9902]

I can't believe you forgot the Honda Blackbirtd. You can't kill these things, in europe people are getting around 200k miles from what I've seen. And mine is just amazing. You really should ride one.

[@paulthompson5206]

Ahhh, I was already daydreaming about a Streetfighter V4. 😅 Guess I can just jot that down as confirmed for my next bike. 😁

[@dalandbailey9909]

I love my 2007 Cbr1000rr. 42000 miles. 🥰🥰

[@leopardpro2878]

Most reliable motorcycle of all time..... Honda Cub 90.. prove me wrong!

[@Ifyouaintfirstyourlast]

I have a cfmoto 650nk never had any problems. My dream is a Yamaha mt-01 1700cc

[@toni_capo]

that's because the engine is the >15year old 650cc kawasaki twin. This engine is now used in several asian new bike models

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Yep, 650 Kawasaki Ninja engine from 2006, few changes over time but basically the same. That MT-01 ran the Yamaha Road Star Warrior 1670cc engine. I have that thing some rips for a time when my brother used to own one (Warrior). I later went for a Demo on a Yamaha Raider with the 1854cc bigger engine. It was a much smoother, more refined, bigger torque engine. Such a shame Yamaha didn't continue it. Used market still has plenty around.

[@Ifyouaintfirstyourlast]

I didn't know that thank you

[@thagingerninjer5391]

The cbr1000rr were the same from 2008-2016. The 2017+ is the same bike, but with rider aids, and minor engine upgrades. I have a 2021, and it’s the best way I could have spent $15,400 on a sport bike in August of 2022. I’ve put every single one of the 19,000 miles it has on it, and it hasn’t missed a beat. Almost 20,000 miles in less than two years is tough on a bike.

[@Eirehunter22]

I’ve the 2018 fireblade,beautiful bike,never gave me any problems,sounds incredible with the akrapovic shorty exhaust and quickshifter 👌🏻👌🏻

[@thagingerninjer5391]

@@Eirehunter22 I have the akro shorty gp slipping, too, and it sounds amazing.

[@Eirehunter22]

@@thagingerninjer5391 Sometimes it can call for earplugs on a long spin but it’s worth it for the pops on downshifts and coming down from high rpms 👌🏻😄 Mine still has it cat converter in…I actually can’t imagine how loud it would be with a full straight through exhaust 🫣

[@sidharthshivappa1359]

My dream bike that model ❤ looks and feels awesome

[@ethanrettke3216]

Just bought a 06 gsxr 1000 last weekend

[@Crslawncare13]

Awesome video as usual🤟🏻

[@SkydivingAndPPG]

I am really offended that you didn't mention the beautiful cruise rocket. BMW K1300S.

[@calvineaton8261]

Gsxr is the best. Hard pill to swallow.

[@steve166h]

Love my ZH2SE been putting 1,000 miles a month on it all year. Going to see how long it can take it, or how long I can get away with it 😂

[@tjey379]

Cheap and reliable, that's me. Good bike, I wish, yes KTM is in Uganda now, but with the price of the 200 I can buy a plot of land in a good location and even kick off construction.

[@costasgeorgiou5015]

So if forced induction is added if but right will still be reliable..... Just remember tune tune tune! 11:31

[@chaz951]

Papa Yamm the shop has 4 turbo Busa's. Come out to SoCal and grab you one. Ranging from 260-400HP

[@exothermal.sprocket]

HTP Performance built some lately which turn out an E85 powered over 600 wheel hp.

[@meusana3681]

06' FZ1 flash it to get the lower gears to awaken. 66k miles in, 3 valve checks, all still within spec. I'm starting to lose seals and coils around the engine, but that baby just purrs on.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I had a tuned 2011. One weakness they seemed to have in limited amounts was something to do with the oil pump. Ever have any signs of that on yours?

[@meusana3681]

@@exothermal.sprocket No, at least not that I'm aware of yet. That being said, I live in a very cold climate, and change the oil every winter regardless of use. I never rev it to red line, and always warm the bike. I like to think I'm giving that pump the easiest job I possibly can XD But at the end of the day, this bike outlived my 1150gs, and a klr 650...apples and oranges I know, but I got those 2 bikes specifically for their reliability, yet the fz1 was and still is my most reliable bike I owned to date.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@meusana3681 Ok cool beans.

[@ryann6919]

Turbo Busa @10:00 and pretty much everywhere else in this video

[@amundbjerve]

TLDR: Any fast Japanese bike. Addition: Some fast european bikes. My pick (I'm a vintage enthusiast): Air cooled sports Guzzis and BMWs from yesteryear. Just make sure you don't buy an abused example unless you are good with your spanner.

[@scooterjay25]

Used to hate yammie noob cuz I've owned a yamaha mt07, z650, and ninja 500......I get it now

[@Mdviousdt]

Best thing you can do, ride it. If you think bikes can be unreliable, try parking your car and only running it once a month.

[@joeyball6343]

Did i miss the 7.62x39? I run the black tip in a 10.5" barrel. Id love to see that.

[@Demonbfg]

ZX-14r should be on the list.

[@giovannidicarlo9047]

thank you

[@pauldark3044]

Both the Busa and zx14r are bullet proof, but zx14 more comfortable

[@whollymindless]

Craig's gonna Grom Swap the 'busa.

[@Bean-Special]

I'm thinking of getting a Royal Enfield Himalayan for my first bike cause I don't have to much money and I'm wondering whether I should get the regular Himalayan, the Himalayan 450, or wait for the guerilla. I know that royal Enfield may not be the best bikes but anyone got any thoughts? Love the videos, and i hope there will be a video covering the royal enfield guerilla when it comes out

[@CarbonRP]

Please stay away from RE if it's your first bike. Look at something like XPulse 200/CB200X or KTM Adv 250. You will be much happier with any of these machines rather than a RE.

[@Bean-Special]

​@CarbonRP thanks I'll take a look at them

[@diogenes9809]

My recommendation if you're considering a new RE would be to just get a used bike, something with middle mileage will not need a lot of ongoing work, will hold it's value better, and just feel less cheap than an enfield. If youve ever touched a nice bike an enfield will just feel a bit like a walmart bicycle in terms of build quality and component feel.

[@nonyabusiness4151]

Buy used. I'm not thrilled with my India built KTM.. If you want an RE, get an RE. Though the spec sheet loses me at the door. First bike, buy used. Save your money for the bike you really want.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Kawasaki Z400 or Z500. CF Moto 450NK. Yamaha MT-03. Honda CB300R. Honda CB500F. BMW G310R. Triumph Speed 400. Suzuki DR-Z400SM. Or something quirky, a Moto Guzzi V7.

[@msaint187]

Yamaha fjr1300 Australian cops put a massive amount of km's/mile's. great looking good all rounder

[@straydeviare]

I stretch that power band on my Ducati sport pro 1100 and it never shows any indication of failure. So smoothe and responsive but not like flying on a rocket going to space 😂

[@HW.0029]

*“Death is just another path that we all must take.” - Young Master Gandalf, sometime in the 3rd Age*

[@supermiaoumix]

Me like the 600 GSXR 1989 (16 000 rpm baby)

[@MxGRhythmlModsMusicGamingl]

Do not get a 2008 and 2009 cbr1000rr as the plating on the walls did not hold up in those years and causes it to burn oil that, if left unchecked, can cause oil starvation and explode.

[@Jason.1999]

even in Turns the Busa is Great

[@jayaneyon9316]

The GSXR1000 is the only beautiful modern Japanese superbike. I wish the fireblade was better looking.

[@bobdole514]

What would be your bike recommendations for somebody? That's never drove a bike before.

[@gixxusmetalman7435]

You lose already by driving a bike ?!😅😅

[@wcjos5516]

There is no recommendation without knowing the driver. Measures of driver should fit to the bike for safe handling and comfort. Always wear protective clothing. The first motorcycle should not be too heavy. Always get on and off the bike with the side stand extended. If you accidentally drop your motorcycle, it is not amusing. Over and beyond, a lot is a matter of taste.

[@oscargunny0317]

What u think of the Honda VTX 1800 yammie?

[@taintedsaiden1]

The Panigale / Streetfighter V4 engines have water pump seal failures every (avg.) 7000mi. Not Reliable, and too big of a cost to formally place a recall. I’m on my third water pump (under warranty) on my ‘22.

[@f5tornadeau]

“You already have pc gamer scoliosis. You don’t want sport bike scoliosis on top of that.” So true. MT-10 is top of my list right now. The sound of that CP4…

[@colinquick9061]

Funnest bikes I've had so far. Get a comfort seat from Sargeants. It's night and day difference.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

It's a bit overkill. MT-09 seems like the sweet spot.

[@colinquick9061]

@f5tornadeau mt09 is almost as fast as the mt10. The 09 wheelies more. I've had both. More parts are ready available for the 10 too.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@colinquick9061 Before 2021, yes, the MT-09 is a rear-weight biased, rear soggy shock animal that doesn't know what to do with the front end. They changed a lot in 2021 and 2024.

[@f5tornadeau]

@@exothermal.sprocket if I got a 900, I’d get the XSR over the MT. The sound of that CP4 is just too damn beautiful to not go that route.

[@bobdole514]

Do all bikes shift the same or is that something to consider when checking out a potential bike for the future?

[@jared123123]

What do you mean? All bikes unless they are the odd DCT like a goldwing will basically have the same manual transmission, 6 speed. 1 down , 5 up typical shift pattern. You can get GP shift kits which I personally think feels much better which just reverses the shifting, so 1 up , 5 down . So essentially , yes . They are majority all the same

[@Ifyouaintfirstyourlast]

The company that makes cfmoto engines make them for a lot of brands like ktm

[@amandastevenson4948]

900 ninja my first bike add cooling issues excuse for me to go 60 mph in rush hour traffic

[@dougiequick1]

H2? No warranty right?

[@bandatv5245]

Had a 2013 and 2015 GSXR 750, really disliked the kitty cat shaped headlights on that body style 😂

[@camacdav000]

Isn’t also the upside of the busa insurance marks it as “touring sport bike”😉🤔

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Well it does have a cruise control. So.... 😁

[@MrRGM10]

Hey yam would you know what will they replace gsxr1000

[@jeanmilaalvarez]

Superbe vidéo merci ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[@lokibrux]

So you put the new blade in here without actually knowing if it will prove to be reliable or not, so you're just guessing and then you voided the warranty? Also, did the GSXR1100 just not exist for you of something?

[@josebaiona9324]

Honda in 4th is criminal, especially behind Yamaha

[@NookLemniscate]

Why does Yammie never acknowledge the ZX14R?

[@samuelhayes5198]

Hey im in uk and am thinking of getting one of the 350 enfields as a first bike when i actually have money. Would you reccomend this or should i try to find another? Do i just get a low capacity sporter just for more reliability? -I like the look of the meteor, -Dont care for speed theres a track 15 min from my home(want atleast motorway speed), -I lke the meteor but dont want a cruiser, just something old looking but not old if that makes sense.

[@nonyabusiness4151]

Someone else wanted a Himalayan... Find more answers there.. First bike buy used!!!

[@Aditya_Ahuja]

go for interceptor 650

[@dav4ix]

Not going to lie, I'm surprised you make good words about Kawasaki.

[@davidbarton7463]

Hi Yammi, can you still win the MT-09 outside of the USA?

[@ryandeoraj9854]

Only here for the nod to my K5 gixxer and validity in my selection lmao

[@oychoppa]

I'm a Honda guy though and through, but the '08 and 09 CBR1000RR's are notorious for engine problems/failures. Especially the 08's. Just wanted to throw that out there. Also, stay away from the 2017 FZ/MT-10's. Horrible throttle response which made the bike super jerky even riding at slow speeds on a less than perfect road. They also have a hard time passing gas stations. I owned one. It was one of the worst bikes that I've ever had in the stable. That being said, the Ducati Diavel WAS the worst bike that I've owned. SUPER high maintenance, and the particular unit that I owned, had electrical issues that caused it to stall or die when rolling up to stop signs and red lights. It was in the shop 3 times in my only one year of ownership. I sold it for a loss because I didn't want its spaghetti dripping Italian cooties to make their way to my other bikes. Ducati left such a bad taste in my mouth that I swore off all European motorcycles and will only go with the Big 4 from Japan from here on out. Primarily Honda or Yamaha. I own both brands at the moment, 2002 CBR954RR, 2010 VFR1200F, 2014 FJR1300A

[@ryanwong772]

Need one of those 😃

[@warmwatersloth6188]

high performance and reliable.... WHERE ARE THE HARLEYS?!?!?

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Way out on the fringe, selling t-shirts and leather jackets.

[@lokibrux]

Broken down on the side of the road after being out preformed by a sports bike that never got out of first.

[@joshrichie9833]

What about the zx14

[@omgitsabloodyandroid5161]

I miss my K7 so much😰

[@allandrake4426]

Too bad Honda Blackbird never makes the list. Champagne bike at beer prices

[@MilesRipp]

Yammie should I start out with a used or new bike

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Used. It's not going to be your forever bike. Save money.

[@TylerEngel-y4b]

My friend has that gsxr750

[@exothermal.sprocket]

The best 600 that isn't a 600.

[@The330racing]

Wasn't there all kinds of engine issues on the 2008 cbr1000rr?

[@MrB590]

Yeh I heard they burned oil, used more oil than it should.

[@mr.b4838]

lol. Missed the SV650. Still literally billions of them on the road. Literally billions.

[@amococ2487]

Don't get me wrong. I love the SV650, but the title does say high performance in it

[@Jagshemasher]

Most Japanese bikes are very reliable these days provided they are looked after properly.

[@aggelossamaras7849]

make a video about ages before 2010

[@grantrowland1998]

The Ducati scrambler was my least favorite bike I've ever ridden. So much vibration, awful in traffic, so much shuddering. I'm very happy with my honda, hope the other Ducatis ride better

[@joeysimunds6352]

Dang. Gotta find a Fireblade to retire my 1000f

[@JW_UU]

0:26 my wallpaper

[@rythm6593]

No one asked

[@JustSomeExpat]

Pro tip: You don't ask the wife about stuff like that. You just go out and do it. Don't tell her, and let her find out on her own months later when she can be bothered looking.

[@sirosisofliverr]

You recommended a 2008 cbr1000rr? The bikes that notoriously, along with the 2009s,burn more oil than a total loss bike made in the early 1900s? Okay..

[@thagingerninjer5391]

Most of them, at this point, have been fixed, or they wouldn’t have lasted this long. The 2008 had crank issues, and both had oil consumption issues, but they’re non-issues now. They’re great bikes. They went from 2008-2016, though, and didn’t have issues after the first couple years. I have a 2021, and it’s the exact, same bike, except for the electronics, minor engine specs, and fairings.

[@3089280288]

What's true for cars, also holds the same for bikes.

[@costasgeorgiou5015]

Kawi and reliability don't go TOGETHER! 🤣 🤣

[@MrB590]

Many kawasaki models are reliable

[@exothermal.sprocket]

What's not reliable about Kawasaki? Name the models. Or laugh at yourself.

[@costasgeorgiou5015]

@@exothermal.sprocket I can't remember the bikes that werent reliable (gave them many tries) I just remembered they weren't the last try with kawi for me was a jet ski and that was a 2012 stx12f. so now it's yamies for skis and Suzuk's and Buell's for bikes. You have to excuse me in 50 and have owned alot of stuff I just know kawi and me don't get along...... And for the record BMW is the same boat as kawi. I mean I like there product but will never be me owning it I just look from afar! 😉

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@costasgeorgiou5015 Have you had any Kawasaki motorcycles? Or just the temperamental jet ski? Buell hasn't been known as the bastion of reliability either.

[@costasgeorgiou5015]

@@exothermal.sprocket yes I know that about the buell but we get along better then the kawi and I. Yes alot of them from a 1990 zx6r up till when I have up on them around 2008. The tried again with the ski.... So yes gave them many chances.