Top 5 Scumbag Things in WoW (World of Warcraft)

There's plenty of ways to shit on people in WoW... these are the worst.
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[@TheProfester]

I miss this era. Just in general, I miss the time when Preach was making videos like this. We were all enjoying WoW, life was simpler. This came up in my feed again and put me straight in my feelings. Love you Preach, thanks for all the content over the years pal.

[@OliveOilFan]

Late Cata - WoD was a great time in wow and in the youtube side of WoW. i miss it

[@Lykoskia]

+1 to everything you said, except it didn't pop up in my feed, I seek out these videos again after all these years as a sort of comfort, an attempt to go back to those better days, those simpler times. I stopped playing late WoD, and can't bring myself to play ever again (although I did play WoTLK/Cata classic, some MoP private servers, etc). I don't know what I miss more, the state of the game or my state of mind, or even my life circumstances... But my soul aches for what used to be, and will never happen again... We should be greateful that it happened though, so thanks Preach for all the joy you brought to my life.

[@LegendaryPredalien12]

"Rogues aren't so bad." *Goes through Stranglethorne Vale* "I have revised my opinion."

[@zorken123]

*STVietnam flashbacks intensify*

[@lizrovthedragon8696]

MMORPG have a lot of Assholes Mobas are made out of Assholes

[@aroonsalotra4574]

True dat, let's just stop playing DoTA 2 and leave it to depopulate as the 2nd best moba out xD

[@thederp4514]

scarily true...

[@KhunShawn]

Guess you never played COD.

[@thederp4514]

haha playing cod is like playing with a bunch of mormons compares to Dota or Dota 2

[@darksidegaming1727]

Lizrov TheDragonn Maybe it is me getting older now or Wow is getting more and more idiots nowdays :P

[@CharterForGaming]

-scumbag: "starting new VOA 10 man run, all well come" -billy: "Hey can I join your VOA 10 man run?" -scumbag: "link your achievement" -billy: "I don't have the achievement yet, that's why i asked if i could join" -scumbag: "no achievement no invite, sorry mate do the raid first then you can join" -billy: "but..." *scumbag has put you on ignore* stupid link achievement people...

[@CharterForGaming]

deenman23 difficult to get a guild group together based on a pvp event that you have to win to get access to, with having a limited amount of time to play each week.

[@CharterForGaming]

deenman23 if your faction didn't hold wintergrasp you couldn't do the raid

[@CharterForGaming]

deenman23 you don't get my point from the first comment i gave you it seems

[@graham683]

+Tholyn underachiever FTW (Its an addon that fakes achievements for those who haven't heard of it). I used it a couple of times back in the day to get some WOTLK raids before i found a decent and fair raiding guild. Good times :) . The scumbags also never took into account the people who did their homework on boss fights by watching either tankspot or youtube videos.

[@Zekial28]

+deenman23 No it is not perfectly reasonable lmao. Please tell me what is the point of asking for more ilvl than what the dungeon/raid drops. Why are you even doing the raid if you don't need but one upgrade? It's stupid. Not only that, but it's a catch 22. You can't get the achievement because you can't get a group, you can't get a group because you don't have the achievement. THAT is the problem with gearscore/ilvl. BACK IN THE HAYDAY you actually had to invite people and judge their abilities and kick them if they proved themselves incompetent.

[@ittakessogoddamnlong]

LOOL "there is alot of a certain type in there" me: Rogues? "its rogues" loool

[@crazyscotsman9327]

So true. Scumbag rogues.

[@lawliman15]

Josh Campbell mhm, we're awesome ;)

[@Tygram17]

I thought the same thing haha i love my class

[@Mikebazowski]

Josh Campbell u are all so butthurted from rogues u shit your pants every time a rog opens on u so reasonable to hate us

[@chockydoe]

What did you think man? PALADINS? I know that a ret pali is pretty hard to kill and has 2 stuns but seriously bra...

[@RussianDrunk]

"Don't fuck 10-man up! ...So they fucked it up!" Best line ever!

[@atomicdeath10]

Rogue ninja looted the Strath mount in vanilla when I rolled a 99 and he rolled a 20. I'm still salty about that in 2022. It lives rent free in my head, I haven't seen that mount again since.

[@Lev_cs]

I already knew he was gonna say rogues cuz rogues are scumbags and 90% of Gankers tend to be... Rogues

[@crazyscotsman9327]

Or hunters.

[@joshr7860]

+lXMaverickXl bubble and garrison hearth. unless they changed it since Wod garrison hearth has a shorter cast time than bubble, Gcd, and it's duration.

[@Greenley013]

funny because most of the gankers i ever encountered were paladins i play a rogue and my sole purpose in wpvp was to find gankers and make them ragequit

[@lelouche25]

Yeah I mostly got pkd by horde rouge cock suckers while leveling in wrath.

[@lorgariiix]

Runhing around SV ganking people is always fun

[@Ankare]

Are you planing any more of these videos? they are great! Im sitting working graveyardshift at work and these makes the nights go faster :-) Thanks for the entertainment!

[@Preachgaming]

These are my primary videos, they take time to make is all. Next one coming very soon

[@CIaude]

+Preach Gaming what music did you put in the back of all these list videos?

[@Xanerithe]

"Soon" tm :)

[@ladyhamo20]

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[@chunky539]

Idiot bot.

[@VanorstusTV]

Isn't 'Gearscore' pretty much just what ilvl is today?

[@makeris32]

yes, but everyone could see it with the addon which led to things like players use pvp gear in raids or players using gear that is not good for their class like paladins with haste rating just to get picked.

[@user-cr8vy2hs7o]

makeris32 Everyone can still see your ilvl, and pvp items still count for ilvl in raids. It's literally the same thing under a different name.

[@Darkeye218]

wwwpwndcom But ilvls now are VARY reasonable its just like he said in the video back in gearscore days people wouldn't even respond to you if your gearscore wasn't above the items in the actual raid and it was retarded, I remember one time i got rejected from the raid because i had one crit gem on my hunter by having that ONE gem he told me I didn't know how to play a hunter and my toon got blacklisted from the guild.

[@user-cr8vy2hs7o]

Sinbadman Actually the same exact problem exists. On my server (Illidan) you need 550 ilvl to join a flex pug and RF only drops 528. This is obviously a giant flaw, because in order to get 550 you would need to do flex but you cant get invited to flex because you are in 528 RF gear. Naturally, having a raiding guild gets you around that (somewhat, a lot of guilds actually require ilvl to raid with).

[@VanorstusTV]

ilvl to day IS the EXACT SAME THING AS GEAR SCORE!! lol. the only difference is that the player base aren't making the same mistakes they were when we had gear score. Same thing, just the way we as a player base treat it is different.

[@matico24]

be warlock get invited to raid travel for 30 min to raid party asked to summon the rest off the raid party GET KICKED FROM RAID AFTER SUMMONING THE LAST GUY

[@SuperMonkei]

That's not a scumbag, that's an asshole guild/raid.

[@johnchase4408]

@@SuperMonkei Scumbag Guild

[@Hrothgrar]

@WeeItsNookies that is the appropriate recourse. Give them a reputation that they deserve

[@ryanbeev]

who else came here just to hear preacher yell about gear score?

[@Omfgseriouslyyyyyyyy]

"there's a lot of a certain type of class in there.." Me: Here we go, HUNTERS UNITE! "It's a rogue" Me: Oh. :c

[@FioraTheMasquerade]

Hahahaha I thought the same thing. xD

[@kameronjames3710]

Lol my main is a hunter

[@FioraTheMasquerade]

So's mine. PVE Survival, cause BM blows atm. You?

[@Pitchpurple17]

hunt-tard main pride!

[@kameronjames3710]

My hunter is a 566 Surv and BM but i seem to pull more DPS in BM

[@knightimer2]

The fact that they gave the thunderfury artifact skin to rogues in legion was some grade A horseshit.

[@BulbASaur-zl1vk]

I agree, should have been the warglaives. ;)

[@quadrallater]

Lol at this comment. The subtle "idiot" at the end really revealed your age

[@Vailwolf]

What is the addon that makes the damage and healing numbers swirl around your character in a circle shown at 3:38?

[@Sneakytoke]

i fucking hated Gearscore I remember back in the day I used to play all the time did all I could to make sure i was playing my Lock at the best I could play him. Gearing up with the best gear I can without raiding getting all the best enchants on my gear but no matter what I did no matter how good my DPS was or how good I played "oh ur GS is'nt blah blah blah bullshit no you cant raid with us" God I fucking hated it. Then one day I magically got into a raid because some guy left the raid, so I got invited somehow. I got there they look at my gearscore and say "hell his GS is way lower then the last guy theres no way were gunna down this boss" and guess what we wiped once then i got the mechanics down and second pull we downed him with me almost toping the DPS charts and I had no raid gear. Guys in the raid still hated me because they were proved wrong and didnt give me the loot that i won roll on. Fucking scum bags.

[@CidSilverWing]

+Sadreli M My sympathies.

[@patrickhayes3011]

That was me when I came back to Cata, after quitting during TBC. However, I never managed to get into a raid at all. Eventually just quit again. I'm not sure how people expected me to get raid gear when literally nobody would accept me TO raid. Even after I practically solo'd Venoxis (from maybe 70%) when the rest of my party wiped :^)

[@whitetransgirlwithdreads]

I ran a DKP guild. No one ever quit because of how we handled DKP. And yes there were people like me and my officers who had tens of thousands of DKP, and yet new members still had a fighting chance. (2000 DKP signing bonus) New members could also build DKP easily because we farmed several raids specifically for the guild bank or to gear low geared new folks. I also awarded DKP for bank donations, showing up to guild meetings and lastly answering call outs whether for guild mates or just other horde to stop alliance from ganking someone. (That's part of how built our rep was being willing to show up and help anyone being griefed, it was a pvp server.) We were pve raiders mostly. That's what we loved to do, 25+ raids. Best way to have the people and others in reserve just in case, was to be fair. And progression did not suffer. We were either the 2nd or 3rd horde guild on our server to get 25 man malygos. (I quit playing about half way through wrath) And usually we were in the top 3 guilds overall on our server. Though we did drop in progression a couple of times. My point is DKP can be fair. It should reward long time members and raiders who show, on time, for every raid. But it shouldn't preclude your new guildies from being able to gear up and raid with you.

[@tynao2029]

many people had a great DKP system my guild also did, I remember it very fondly. Unfortunately I say those objecting to gear score and DKP systems were among the have nots in WoW history, always having a spot in a good raid afforded a lot of happiness

[@Hellno426]

One time a guy on my server decided to start a ICC25 raid, but rather then ask for a gear score requirement he simply wanted people with some experience. Well several people joined and as expected some had some shitty gear lol. But we got really far, almost to Lich King but are tanks had to log off so the raid ended. But that showed me that the gear score system was really shitty at the time. I'm glad its gone.

[@MrBarlion]

It's not gone. Blizzard just implemented their own. After GS it was "link your achieve" but at least that was slightly more appropriate as it showed the player had experience. Most players realized however that GS was bullshit, especially when there was some gear like trinkets that were better than others with a higher GS.

[@Hellno426]

MrBarlion I'm talking about that specific gear score system. I know its still around, its just not as outrageous as before.

[@JamotHica]

"It's like two blind people arguing over their Whack-a-mole score" brilliant analogy xD

[@JamesShelnutt]

A few years back I was doing random dungeons and kept getting teamed up with a particular scumbag (forget the name but it was Shark something). The reason why is because when loot dropped he NEEDED on EVERYTHING no matter if he could wear it or not. I think he was just ignorant of the looting rules cause even when they were explained to him, & you better believe they were very quickly, he still kept doing it anyway. He said, "well, I can sell it for the money-I NEED the money." It's like he thought NEED meant whatever you wanted it to. Like his definition of NEED didn't just have to mean if you could wear it & it upgraded your current gear. To him EVERYTHING was NEEDED cause he needed money! I'have no idea where he is today but I bet he's still doing the same thing.

[@superomegamkiii2313]

James Shelnutt I still run into players like this while leveling alts but now if you need roll on a green gear item it soulbinds to you and I'm glad blizzard done that it really puts a limit to the benefits of stealing loot instead of sharing rolls.

[@lordvisserys9187]

James Shelnutt it wasn't me

[@1337penguinman]

Was this particular scumbag a hunter, by chance?

[@Abionx]

hes prob working a in a retail store atm, and whenever he gets hungry, he just takes shit off the isles and whenever he gets caught he says "well im hungry, so i NEED to eat, and its right here and i work here so.."

[@sharless1]

I love how he rants on "GearScore"....and the community doesn't learn and now we have "Raider I.O" for mythic's :D

[@knightimer2]

"+5 AD - 2500io minimum required"

[@EWFGamingChannel]

Difference is that GS was just regarding gear, not actual progress or skill. Raider IO just shows what you've done it actually counteracts the whole ilvl bullshit that we have now.

[@brucepraska7781]

Funny enough with that is that original wow didnt have this till pre cata and lasted only till I think mid to late M.O.P. which thank fucking god for that oh you want to go do 55 dungeon oh you cant well I guess you can rando that and have a chance but wait it gets better. After mists came out randos only give you within your gear range so if you get a dick in the group everyone else gets left behind so literally the only way you can progress is if your somehow leader and the lowest gear lvl in the group and always need on the stuff to progress ya brilliant thinking blizzard oh and B.O.A. gear doesn't work in dungeon ques so in order to use it you que in jump into your boa then go and they later patched that so you cant what a waste

[@plummet3860]

@@EWFGamingChannel but it doesn't when you can pay pennies for runs...

[@zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba0]

Fuck sakes. They wanted to complain about LFD while others are bragging about having addons that did it through chat back in classic. WoW communities always been fucked.

[@Mariopwnzu]

N-Not all rogues are bad *sweats nervously and looks at my rogue*

[@TheVulnerableorange2]

what is the addon that effects the way the hitscore and heal scores are shown

[@dawnbridge5100]

What is the music playing in the background?

[@Unholyzyx]

The worst scumbags I've encountered on Nostalrius so far (here's a hint, they're all skinning related) -The guy who skins something you were about to skin -The guy who skins something you were about to skin, but you were in combat again after you looted it -The guy who doesn't loot stuff so people can't skin the mobs -The guy who skins mobs everyone else kills (that's me!) -The guy who tags and kills a mob you were about to attack, and doesn't loot it so you can't skin it -The guy who tags and kills a mob you were about to attack, and doesn't loot it so you can't skin it, and it was a quest mob too

[@RaXZerGamingZ]

+zombiek3nny beatiful :')

[@shakaama]

your number 1 spot is NOWHERE near as scumbag as the guildmaster disbanding the guild and taking the ENTIRE BANK AND ALL THE STUFF, GEAR, MATS... and it happens A LOT.

[@SRC1923]

Does anyone know what font is using Ghost in his ui ? you can see it at 6:00

[@PiperAmadeus]

Gearscore was THE WORST thing to ever get into WoW and got reformed into ilvl. Gearscore in short : Dungeon needs 200 GS, Idiot in LFG wants you to have 250 wich is raid score. Makes no sense!!

[@jacksquatt6082]

Gearscore and random dungeon finder were basically the death of the WoW community.

[@6105boe]

That said, item level and achievs are here and right now truly it’s not too bad. There’s gonna be groups that require stupid high ilvl+achiev, and they’re gonna deny you if you don’t have either. And that’s fine. Because they intend to smash it. There’s also always groups that require the minimum, where you can go if you haven’t done any content yet. And if you want to guarantee yourself a raid spot, you can always find a guild!

[@lorgariiix]

Basically the azzhole wants a guarenteed completion

[@prankpatrol89]

I know this is irrelevant and your fans will probably attack me for saying this, but I feel like the more scumbag move in any video game are raid leaders in lotro. Lotro (which people sometimes refer to as a mild version of wow, since there are a lot of similarities between the two games). This has something to do with your "minimum gear point requirement" point. In lotro, especially on the server I am on, no one will let you go on any raid unless you have good gear. The only way to get good gear is to either be of the craft which crafts your type of gear (tailor for low and mid, metalsmith for heavy), be maxed at top tier guild crafting (which is different than normal crafting) and wait 6 day intervals between each piece of gear. Not to mention, the recipes for these pieces of gear requires a special gem that could only be acquired through the top raids. No one wanted to raid with you if you didn't have good gear, but you could only get good gear by raiding. It was a lose-lose situation for anyone who wasn't a kin leader who couldn't force his kinmembers to take him on raids. This was particularly frustrating for me because I am a younger player than most people in my social circle. Albeit, some are barely a year older than me, I am still one of the youngest. Which means, I am still in school. These scumbags only run raids during school/work days and give kinmembers the weekend off to recover. No chance for younger players, no chance for improvement.

[@prankpatrol89]

I forgot to mention that only ONE (or, if you're lucky, two) gem drops in every raid. Each different type of gear (helmet, shoulders, tunic, pants, gloves, cloak, and boots) required a DIFFERENT gem. ONE person in the entire 12 person raid would get a jewel. There was no rhyme or reason, just whoever the game decided to give it to. You could also get duplicate gems which was worst than the worst. Back when level 75 was the cap (it's now 100), and Draigoch was the shit, you needed 3 dragonscale gems to make a cloak, and then you needed a clasp to complete the recipe. This clasp only appeared once per raid and if you ran with the same group more than once in a row (which was hard to do since everyone would throw a fit and leave), it would seem like it was always the same guy who got it. This guy had quite a few alts with the claps before our kin-leader even got one.

[@JakesFavorites]

Scott Kilmer Wow, that sounds like a huge ragefest. I am glad you can keep your head.

[@sammydiaz8691]

Scott Kilmer d

[@sammydiaz8691]

Asadt

[@ihatetacocasa]

.... i don't think u understand.... that is what it was like in lich king people wanted u to have full naxx gear to go into heroic dungeons... it was a shitshow

[@Sarahmajig]

Omg. I played on a wotlk private server for some time. Never again, screw private servers, they suck. Anyway, I'd get so peeved at people wanting high gearscores for icc and shit. Like, no, my gearscore is not 5.8 that's WHY I'm trying to do icc! You raid to get better gear, assholes! So. Much. Idiocy.

[@Zyotomir]

Shit like that during WoTLK turned me into a PvPer.

[@20GuitarZero07]

Radoslav Kostadinov and then when you crush every high GS player in open world, they complain that pvp gear is op. So not only do they lock you out of shit you need to progress in pve, they want their "exclusive" gear to be better than yours for everything. Wanks.

[@LilianOrchard]

Radoslav Kostadinov Shit like that during WotLK is why I didn't let Gearscore into my guild. I remember kicking people from the raid because they were bitch about another player's gearscore.

[@Sarahmajig]

Jerry Peet You are a butterfly among moths, my friend.

[@LilianOrchard]

Sarahmajig Oh no, I wasn't. I remember bringing new players into raids with the intention of gearing them up, but also just to laugh when they bit off more than they could chew and died horribly. Kind of a cruel tradeoff. People would gear up, but I'd be in hysterical laughter at their panicky deaths the entire time.

[@finisher862]

I swear this video ends up being promoted to me about once a year, and I always end up rewatching it and enjoying it.

[@TheViiolate]

does the atlas loot thing still work??

[@daemontheory]

Scumbag Honorable Mentions: -Everything Rollers (people who roll for every drop regardless of whether or not their class can even use it) -Gankers (coughrouguescough) -Griefers -Quest NPC Killers (people on the opposite faction who camp mobs that give out quests) -Ninja Looters -Aggro-ers -Those tanks who run out of healer range and complain about the healer being shitty -Huntards (as a hunter main, seeing a Huntard always makes me cringe) -The raider who's schedule YOU have to live around This list can go on and on but I'll leave it at that.

[@bass-dc9175]

"There is a lot of a certain kind of class in there." *Intro start* Me: Is it rogue? "It is rogue."

[@Shadethewolfy]

hey what addons do you use, Preach?

[@tobi4364]

what is that unitframes addon when he runs around in aq

[@CrimsonUltrafox]

It's so sad about 25 man raiding guilds...my guild is one of the last true few 25 man raiding guilds on our server. Also loot councils are the absolute worst shit I've ever had to deal with in the game. Also you forgot to mention people that excessively gear their alts in the raid and take loot away from other people's mains.

[@ExplosiveBG]

My guild had DKP but we had a clear systelm: rank Trail: Cannot bid for any item, except if the item isnt going to be disenchanted, Alts-above trails but still cant bid if any main wants it ( BUT if the alt is specificly requested by the raid leader he gains the statute of a normal member, because the player was forced to play with his alt), and up above are the normal Veteran-Marshal-Officer which get the main priority to get loot.

[@MrBarlion]

VKGchaos DKP sucked ass. Always did. It was never fair to good players that had real life responsibilities, like a job, and could only show up two or three times a week compared to the kid that could be there every night especially during summer.

[@TheFrozensoul1992]

***** and how exactly does that seem fair , why should i leave my guild to join your guild since when i join , from there on out for weeks if not months ill only be able to get an item if no1 needs it in the raid , your system , and dkp system is bad , breaks harmony and is genuinly stupid , me and my guild just roll as normal ppl do need for main spec greed for offspec and if i win it but its a minor slight upgrade for me but a very big one for a guildie i might as well let him have it , its called player as a team , brings harmony and makes raiding more njoyable

[@bamazudi]

Alexander Atanasov This is the type of system that works best. DKP, loot councils, both can go fuck themselves. Your core 10 man group should be a group of 10 friends, not 10 enemies trying to steal loot from each other. A little courtesy can go a long way. My guild has been together since wrath and we have been gearing just fine by allowing the GM to be Master Looter and list items and allow them to be rolled on.

[@kissme1518]

If anything right was done in retail it was the badge gear and personalized loot. You got a roll in for clearing the raid. I admit at one instance I did like the competitive loot rolling thing but I kind of hated the backstabbing loot council shit. People that manipulated others got the best gear of course because of scumbaggery.

[@Jcam78able]

I remember dkp. Why can't I forget it....

[@joe579003]

+Jcam78able The moment you forget is A FUCKING 50 DKP MINUS!

[@Jcam78able]

+joe579003 PMSL. I need to watch that again.

[@jacovanderschaaf3044]

+Jcam78able were just simple day /roll or ir at upgrade, or use for offspec that how i liked wow more

[@Jcam78able]

***** /shudder

[@WillyDee123]

+joe579003 MOAR DOTZ

[@madcat789]

Whats the music he has in the background?

[@MixalisRed7]

Whats this damage addon called? example 03:45

[@dannyhudlum1283]

I remember the horrors of the DKP system first hand. A Rant by an ex-WoW player As he discribes it perfectly, my situation was a bit worse..... As a paladin you had to be a healer in order to raid, however because i was questing i was dps specced since holy talent-paladins were crap for questing and only good for healing in instances or raids.... Because of that i missed the first few raids my guild had and make me loze the DKP points with it. Eventually when we managed to get some loot the paladin who had more DKP got the loot. At first i was ok with it untill i saw the full, extended effects which can be named as "PROGRESSION" Yes! the word that f**ked my life was the meaning to "progress" in the raid instances meaning the better geared would always get picked first... That meant for me, even DURING a raid, a higher level pally could come online an hour after the raid started JUST before we were going to attack a boss and kick me out to be replaced with him.... The following then happened: I got DKP for attending the raid. The NEW paladin got DKP for attending AND killing the boss AND spend it on loot drops which still resulted at a higher increase ( because of multiple boss-kills ) that he'd still have more DKP then me..... Basicly meaning ANY paladin loot that dropped didn't even go to me but to every other paladin ( we had 4 ) meaning no matter how many times i DID get to raid i never got loot or DKP high enough to compete. Then they introduced the bidding system ( bidding DKP with a minimum amount, but no maximum ) meaning the very little loot i DID get would either cost me nearly all my DKP to aquire it ( because otherwise it would get disenchanted ) or was simply outbid by any of the regular paladins. And even when i was the only paladin still needing the paladin only item i still had to pay the minimum DKP which often meant spending all my DKP earning of an ENTIRE MONTH just to get 1 item. They wouldn't just give it free, it was either pay up with your DKP or it gets disenchanted.... This resulted in me eventually quitting the guild because i felt like they were treating me like a 3rd rank guildmember beeing ignored by these people claiming to be your friendly guildmembers but giving crap about your disire to raid or be a part of that team... Beeing force to raid 5-man instances almost endlessly i discovered a "members only" chat section ( During the burning Crusade ) that was basicly a high-end guild looking for raid channel for recruiting people to do Pug's ( pick up groups containin random people from diffrent guilds ) to raid high end instances like The world tree and Black temple. Even though i told them i was low-geared they accepted me and gave me a better time then the guild i was in. It was there in this channel that wasn't even a guild but a random assortment of other people in high-end guilds with the same kind of problems that i actually felt like a member and was eventually a regular in the raiding group(s). Not to brag but during the "warchief Thrall" section of the world tree i was no1 in healing* and no.6 in DPS on the boss fight as a DPS-paladin. *This was all due to a game mechanic called the judgement of light which gave every Physical melee or ranged attack heal that person. Combine this small amount x40 players and you get my drift.... If that wasn't enough you could do the same but give back mana instead meaning i was a welcome sight as both a dps and a secondary healer, giving a steady amount to healing to every player around. If it wasn't for Blizzard making the DPS-spec for the paladin a reasonable option and this chat channel, i probably would have quit WoW because of this opressive system.

[@trouts4]

gearscore ruined wotlk for me. i had stopped playing and joined right before icc i think so i had very little time to gear up along the others. so i was very much behind. guess what. i never raided icc.

[@TheLeagueBros]

I wasn't even level 80 when ICC opened, and it was easy for me :b I just started the groups myself in the beginning. In the first few weeks I only got like 2-4 bosses down, but the extra emblems and occasional loot, made it easy for me to join a guild and quickly start heroic raiding :b But i guess it differs from server to server. and another tip is to just link an uncompleted achiev, this was especially useful in 25-man runs, as the leader had to manage a lot, and often didn't bother to look at it.

[@jhonnyrian3726]

As a warlock in those days it was easy for me to get into a group(mostly) Naxx was my first raid I'll never forget that T7.5 gear. I regret deleting him.

[@JakesFavorites]

What is the pic from at 0:53? So many gnomes, everywhere... What was that about?

[@morrockfly]

Does the warglaive thing still work?

[@boga-tier6609]

SO THAT F****** EXPLAINS WHY I COULDN'T GET THE GLAIVE!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@Lev_cs]

Wait does this still work?

[@ViGgO1111]

nope :D

[@Thrallsbuddy]

As a greek i can confirm the first part

[@blackm4niac]

has he by any chance rang the gong on Aldor (DE)? Because I heard about how the whole server wanted to make it a big event for everyone, when they hit the gong, only to fall victim to someone transferring over just to grad the mount and title

[@KosmataBradva]

I watch the warglave segment every day. I brings such joy.

[@DamageIncBHS]

I think it's fucking hilarious how you refer to rogues in this, only to end up maining one a few years later xD

The dark side is very seductive.

[@Jimbob84141]

This is very strange watching it as someone whos never played world of warcraft :O .

[@9sunskungfu]

hahaha , same, ive never played this game, I have no idea what hes talking about ,I just liked it visually..i guess that's why I kept watching :/

[@RKroese]

And here is me thinking: "People who play this game (like me) are nuts!" I don't even know how to think about you two... x-D

[@boomerang2455]

What item set does Timmy have on?

[@alesin1992]

The greek rogue story made me projectile spit my beer. You owe me a new keyboard, Preach.

[@jasonkendrick1759]

Gearscore still makes PUGs want you to outgear the instance....pain in the ass and pointless!

[@ElderTaranis]

HFC Normal minimum 715ilevel come get some! You get in and it's still a wipefest...and it all wraps up when the lead ninja'd the Archimonde trinket....

[@ChrittyMedia]

People even now are requiring 10 ilvls above what the bosses drop xD

[@roberthansson8222]

''There is alot of a certain class in there, it's rouges.'' That had me cracking up, a bloody pain in the back since vanilla. Rogue is and will always be a furiously hated class for me in wow. Most Rogues whether they are in your guild or on the opposite faction are all scumbags, never trust them.

[@GamerPro-rq8yt]

I'm not sure if u pay for WoW now do u have it for a few days or forever

[@DeaconTaylor]

would be interesting to see an updated version of this. gearscore/ilevel is a wee bit more prominent these days.

[@MrMGR1986]

Karazhan is still the best 10 man of all time

[@rogantu]

yeah in greece it's apparently common to be 2 hours late to meetings that decide your future. I learned that in school from my teacher who lived in greece for years.

[@drunkengamer8342]

That's not true . I am sorry to hear that from you. But not all Greeks are late. Just because some Greeks are, doesnt mean all greeks are late. For example yesterday I woke up because we set a time in my guild to do some dungeons and at 5am I woke up and went to wow. In my surprise me and couple other guys were kicked from the guild and when I reached for an explanation I had no answer. I dont show hate and I am not biased about anybody. At the end it is a game and if guys have things to attend to they will if that means they cant play then they cant

[@michaelcottrell6931]

Watched a couple of your videos. Very good. I like your style, keep it up!

[@everythinggamingnow]

did they actually add the email thing to GS? That would have been amazing for mail list spamming lol the amount of emails to scrape

[@neomisterp]

I used to sap people in firelands, you know the spot.

[@TheFr0z3nF0x]

i liked his complaint about DKP. Thankfully the guilds i was in never used DKP we used a loot roll rule. Everyone is entitled to one win through need roll until everyone of that loot class has gotten an upgrade then it resets. That means you roll need on stuff until you win a piece for your class specific needs then once you win you can't roll need until everyone else of the same grouping has gotten something.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

15:01 "This moment could've beena coffee nail for raiding itself"? Or is it "coughing nail"? Exactly what is he saying there. I'am curious on that saying.

[@user-uf4cw1qy2y]

+The Wolf with the Dragon Coffin nail

[@saltronica]

what about popping heroism/bloodlust before the start of every bg?

[@fellockz]

sooo how does that loot spawn addon work?

[@jxhunger]

So, you are one of those scumbag lootwhores, eeh?

[@fellockz]

jxhunger haha no but im grinding ashes of alar for some time now so it would be nice to know it could drop you see? could you tell me how this works?

[@KaxakaDarktree]

fellockz poor troll and poor lier! GTFO kid no1 wants ur immature ignorant @ss screwing with evry honorable man's PERFECTION.

[@fellockz]

KaxakaDarktree sir just go sit in that corner over there and stop talking..

[@richardrapstine9014]

Atlasloot doesn't work like that anymore. In fact, I'm not even 100% sure it ever truly functioned like that. It was a rumor at the time. Now, thanks to WowHead and datamining, we have databases that record each and every possible drop for a boss, so Atlasloot is populated using that information. I don't recall Blizzard ever making a loot table accessible via an addon.

[@Grim420Reafer]

I realize it wasn't a game-wide thing, but by FAR the biggest scumbag move in WoW was when Serenity (might be wrong on that name) raided the in game funeral of a girl that had died. Even posted a video of it.

[@gamerswag9121]

Can I get a link to it?

[@LennieEkselius]

Yes I remember that but I didnt see it as a scumbag move they all respected the in game rules. Now had they raided the realife funeral that would have been a scumbag move. They could have done the funeral at a no pvp zone doing it in a pvp area is like asking for it tbh. Now on a diffrent note to answer the video scamming was one thing that should have been on the list.

[@terradraca]

Lennie Ekselius If that was all they had done, it would have been not that bad. What they also did was post REALLY tasteless comments about her afterward. Speaking ill of the dead is the ultimate act of cowardice and those guys need a serious reality check.

[@TheDerpReaper]

Lord Hawkeye Different factions cannot communicate with eachother.

[@Grim420Reafer]

So raiding a dead girls in game funeral was their way of communicating?

[@agustincuellar8368]

does the atlas loot thing actually work????

[@bmbandit]

Me and my friends struggled through and downed everything but the last boss of every dungeon at the beginning of Cata. Funny thing too is we were also doing Cho'Gall wrong, and got him to like 3% on our best attempt. We didn't learn of this situation until much later, and it made the whole situation funny when we realized that the struggles were because they completely fucked it up.

[@pyrrha7124]

Our guild used something like a need vs greed system for sharing our loot , usually the people that need specific items to improve get that thing , if no one needs it , it gets auctioned away into a stack of gold to fund our raids , basically everyone gets what they need and we never have to restock on potions cause we auction away useless junk. After a lot of our guild members left the game (due to life ) me and my ex guild leader joined a guild that uses DKP. We quit after the first raid even though we almost carried their asses. I hated the DKP system , I hate how guild members can't just give new guild members what they need and improve the guild overall in raiding. The selfishness of a man can often turn them into monsters.

[@charlesbrown2626]

We had a mix back in Cata that worked well. It was MS item first, and then it went to need v greed, but raid points detertmined who got it. So if both A and B needed it for MS, but A got gear last raid and spent his points, B spent his and got it ( unless someone was extremely generous and worked out a deal)

[@jonnnney]

The fact that your salty ass quit after one raid is a perfect example of the strength of dkp it keeps randos from taking a bunch of loot and ghosting the next day.

[@jodymicheallee]

@@jonnnney you're a dick and part of the reason why people don't join guilds.

[@EnthrallingBass140]

I laughed soo hard when he said rogues, my thoughts exactly.

[@mastadon6384]

Dude. Like a time machine. It is amazing how far your videos have come. Anyway, DKP. A hunters best friend when Ashkandi drops, because it is obvious a Hunter weapon right?

[@Zkeleton969]

so is gearscore the ye olde version of item lvl?

[@Durbit428]

***** Was worse because playerbase completely set minimum gearskill where as Blizzard has a suggested minimum now. Wasn't THAT much different, but it was big enough. I remember not being able to get into ICC 10 because they wanted 6k Gearscore and I had 5.7k which was full Tier 9 and Quel'Delar Might of the Faithful. So stupid >[

[@TheGamerThing]

Damn those Greeks...having a life and things..

[@mortvald]

***** They are excused since the time frame is different but is your for playing 3 in the morning and noticing the problem.

[@Dragonkiller12350]

TheGamerThing ... screw you. (Also pointing out that time zones differ.)

[@TheGamerThing]

ShadowFistGG What did i do?

[@Dragonkiller12350]

TheGamerThing I'm greek....

[@TheGamerThing]

ShadowFistGG I was being sarcastic. This guy is annoyed because Greek people have lives

[@panzerraven4135]

""Rogues"" I guess it takes a backstabber to play one ? :)

[@JustinKork]

"It's Rogues." has made me spill beer twice now.. LMFAO

[@nosafetyswitch9378]

Dude, during Summer, a rare phenomenon called SUNSHINE dominates daytime in Greece and at night, another strange phenomenon called AMAZING temperatures persists through the season so instead of rooting their asses in a chair, most Greeks go to a roof garden bar or at the beach or an island and whatnot instead of playing WOW.

[@AnAfinityForKarma]

"It's like 2 blind people arguing over their whackamole scores" HAaaaahahaha

[@Legerine]

I absolutely despised DKP. I always ended up being in the negatives because I had to take the crap than no one wanted. And since I could never get the really good gear, they always wanted the people who already had the gear to do the raid... So I would sit outside, with my negative DKP, unable to earn new points to get the gear that no one wanted because the Idiots who thought this was a good idea wanted the best possible chance to get the one fucking item at the end of the raid that all the high end people were saving their DKP for. DKP Raiding is one of the contributing factors for me leaving WOW the first time. =^.,.^=

[@harrison1735]

Not giving DKP to the benched players should be an obvious problem to any guild officer. If a person shows up at raid time, stays online the whole raid, and stays ready to swap in at a moment's notice, then they should get points to spend. Your problem sounds less like a problem with points themselves and more a problem with idiotic management. The twin goals of any loot distribution system should be to maximize the benefit to the raid and to reward the people who show up for progression. Letting a few players accumulate more points and denying points to others who show up just ensures that big upgrades don't go to the people who need them and the raid suffers.

[@Michaelrunza]

Atlas loot and Loot spawning doesn't work like that anymore correct?

[@VomicaEmanio]

Number 2 really hit some strings in me. I started playing during TBC but never got to raiding, I finally managed to raid in WotLK and was excited to continue in Cata. First bosses in Cata first raid were harder for us to beat than beating Lich King Heroic had been in WotLK. My guild fell apart and we all scattered. I haven't entered a raid ever since (not counting LFR) even though I played up until Legion Release

[@andrewmacro3887]

the gearscore thing is now what happens with wod and HFC i have 705 ilvl and cant get into normal HFC without 715+ T.T

[@ZoldZsolt]

+Andrew Macro Im not even raiding for that matter anymore(also, don't forget the hideous "ahead of the curve achievment" requirement)...but even with a 711ilvl i find it very hard to get into mythic dungeons, as most of the grps require 715+.

[@Zekial28]

+Andrew Macro Yep, gearscore was a good idea in theory but it horribly changed the game.

[@alterscene8091]

+PLord I second this so hard it's not even funny. I have an ilvl 714 rshaman since no guild can work with my work schedule being third shift in an ER and find it hard to get into heroic HFC groups (EVen with AOTC) because I'm not 715. Same with Mythic dungeons. So (Me being a goblin and having a shit ton of gold) I have to buy either carries or buy hfc boe gear to get my ilvl up... It's ridiculous and god forbid I try to get in a heroic hfc group with my 709 hunter...

[@MinatureMinotaur3223]

+Alterscene mythic dungeons are faceroll, was tanking them with 667ilvl on my paladin. Try making your own grp for mythic dungeons it'll make it easier. For the raiding bit, fuck knows try getting some 710 pvp gear and replacing an item thats bellow 700. may get you that 1 ilvl

[@TheFlametroll]

The first time I got my Kingslayer title was actually on a crap character that had just dinged recently with some heroic gear. Late night, went into general chat and start a alt ICC25 pug. Didn't ask for gearscore or anything. We went in there, with 2 wipes and on that night we cleared EVERYTHING up to LK. Gearscore/itemlevel never.... meant.... shit. Understanding of game mechanics, tactics and class was key.

[@kissme1518]

Ew ICC25 that word is gross

[@ChaosPages]

I'm confused-- I just watched your Legacy of BC video... do you, or do you not like your raids being difficult?

[@disrupt94]

+ChaosPages he is an ex-method raider, what do you think?

[@eurosonly]

whats the mount called again? and is it still obtainable?

[@Somethingafw]

+eurosonly Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal and yes it's no longer obtainable, all new servers comes without the gong now.

[@jacovanderschaaf3044]

+Somethingafw oke, then were that allaince vs horde point going on for ? 000/200 ? everytime i enter the zone?

[@Somethingafw]

When?

[@DisturbedLick]

DKP is the worst. While raiding as the off-tank during Hyjal, a cape dropped for the tanks. The other tank was way more geared than me. So, I bid for it. And what did he do? He bid against me. Why? To make it so I would have to spend even more DKP for this cape, and then wouldn't compete against him on loot he may wanted. Either I spend all my DKP on one item, or he gets it and vendors it. Fucked up.

[@palo1475]

Horsecock happened to me in ToS, tbh Its just a smart move

[@WoWAuctionsnet]

I think your leader is an idiot to allow him to bid on it. Its a raid not a fucking auction

[@tynao2029]

there shouldn't have been any bidding in DKP. All the items had costs already laid out, whoever has the higher accumulated DKP from raiding and wants the item gets it and spends only the item price

[@spaceythehuman5530]

300 spartans disliked this vid.

[@simonpersson2259]

301 Spartan

[@aadempson1537]

And 8 athenians

[@richardwulf1122]

And 22 undead Spartans

[@Caswallen420]

Filip Antonijevic and 1 freak with a giant mole on his back who blames his disfigured body on the gods who dont exist...

[@richardwulf1122]

Yup

[@AltonJB1984]

Super Mario World in the background. Props there!

[@jesslovesawalk8557]

Your anger, excitement and just general passion including all the swearing is brilliant. Subscribed. Carry on good sir

[@someguy4405]

He doesn’t really make vids like this anymore but these were golden.

[@jesslovesawalk8557]

@@someguy4405 yeah, tis a shame. Good to leave behind awesomeness though :)

[@someguy4405]

@@jesslovesawalk8557 “Was it because there was a shortage of donuts in the office?” “In dark rooms across the globe, plans were hatched.” “There’s a dude in group six! Why is there a dude in group six?! What the fuck is going on here?!” my favourites from Preach.

[@jesslovesawalk8557]

@@someguy4405 haha, I read all of them in his voice 😂 good choices

[@MaryJane-wk1ni]

DKP isn't that bad. It just all depends on the people in your guild and how honest they are. I was a kid. Maybe like 10-12. and I was raiding ony. My t2 mage helm dropped and I threw ALL MY DKP on that. All of it. Someone in the guild threw in a point higher than me. The raid leader looked at it and realized that the dude who put in an extra point over me didn't even need the helm at all. He was a totally different class. The raid leader gave me it and said fuck you to the other. Because I needed it. He didn't. DKP makes sense to me back in 40 man's. You raid for points to vote on gear. The people who put more hours into the raids and the guild get more of a chance at that loot. Because gear was far harder to get. While the newer player may not have as much of a chance. He will later down the line when he raids more. Of course the Raid leader should take in consideration on if the person voting truly needs it or it just a small upgrade. My guild use to tell people to link the Item they had and how much DKP they were throwing towards the Item. Then of course the raid leader would figure out who would benefit it from the most.

[@TheGr8one1022]

+Mary Jane I agree that DKP can be used properly with relative ease. People are acting like a warrior can just use DKP on a cloth chest, when I've never in my life seen a guild use a system like that. It sucks to see a loyal raider who shows up every week but can't win a roll get outrolled on an important piece by a guy who was taken to the raid because they needed an extra body, and that's where DKP works. It happened to me before I started doing Mythic HFC; we killed Archimonde every week since the second week he was out on normal and later heroic, yet for the life of me I couldn't get the class trinket. A week before I finally got it because I rolled unopposed (since everybody already had it) we pulled in a bunch of randoms from the guild for an Archi kill so that they could get ring upgrades and whatnot, which we'd do once a week, and some random outrolled me on the class trinket; this was back in late November, and I haven't seen him log on that character once since then, yet I was one of the top 3 dps for the entire raid group. The only rules for DKP should be that the person can use the item and actually needs the item for an upgrade; sure, things were a little more muddled back in the day before armor specializations when Paladins and Druids would wear cloth sometimes, but overall it still worked. We don't really use it because most people are consistent in our guild and it's unnecessary, but I could see instances where it could work in really large guilds with tons of players.

[@jpem4664]

This just got recommended to me. Oof.

[@Xerdar36]

I love your narration you explain things exactly as they are in the world of war craft.

[@damchovic]

whats the zone @ 8:56?

[@dwilson3297]

yeah nobody likes ninj...err rogues

[@lacrosseguy108]

whats your gearscore... uhh 5.4k.... ohh ok heres a inv. later on half way thru the raid.... HAY YOUR GEARSCORE IS ONLY 4.5k... KICKED

[@groovypantsguss1404]

I come back from time to time just to watch the intro... love it... whenever I see a Rogue, I always think ' Scumbag'.

[@ninjaneb2431]

how the hell did u get ur action bar like that???????

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

0:17-0:29 That should really be a Vine! ;)

[@Braeden16Macdonald]

too bad vines are only 6 seconds XD

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Braeden Macdonald oh, you can edit it a little bit ;)

[@pivot1022]

It really should't, vines aren't funny

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

pivot1022 You're wrong.

[@pivot1022]

The Wolf with the Dragon I'm really not. but nice try little boy.

[@TheToekutter]

Gearscore was the single most fucked up thing added to the game. I remember running wotlk dungeons in really good pvp gear (because I pvp'd a lot). I would routinely get kicked from 5 man groups, even though we were facerolling the dungeon and I was doing as much damage as the other clowns. "Nice fucking gear n00b" kicked. Over and over. Would they have rather I entered wearing green and blue shit? Fucking stupid system that has NOTHING to do with skill since these days you basically fucking log into the game and epics are sent to you in game mail.

[@heartofjustice6041]

damn why so upset.

[@Evokai6419]

Just....stop... he was ranting.

[@triploshadow]

lol wut:? I joined 5man groups with green gear on my recently leveled alts and i had Never ever had any problems in WOTLK heroics I was never kicked because of my gears, seams like people were kicking you because of your attittude

[@SalvLav]

^^Do u even read bro? He said pvp gear

[@triploshadow]

so what??? I went to do heroic with sholazar basin greens, which are far far inferior to any pvp gear piece and was never kicked come at me bro.

[@marcusc9931]

I remember having to run a whole instance (one of the spider lairs in Northrend) all the way from the entrance, because when we jumped into the chasm to get to the boss, our scumbag death knight froze the water at the bottom...

[@sparda9060]

good god that one line near the end about " scum bags fucking scum bags" got me rolling cuz i actually witness that shit back in 2006 vanilla raiding. That whole thing about some people keeping a secret DKP spread sheet to do random "drug tests" on DKP keepers on the websites is hilarious to me cuz it actually happens.