Top 5 Total War Longest Campaigns

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@Balinux
@Balinux 5 жыл бұрын
The worst is when you've got good relations with all your neighbours and no heart to break it up.
@jackdaone6469
@jackdaone6469 5 жыл бұрын
Same. Of course, not being ready could wind up getting you caught with your pants down. I was playing as England in Medieval 2, and had basically conquered all of Central, Southern, and Western Europe, the exception being the Iberian Peninsula, which was in the hands of my Spanish allies and French vassals. Eastern Europe, meanwhile, has become its own massive bloc in the form of Poland(also an Ally), which had wiped out Russia and was holding the Turks and Mongols at bay. So I send a fleet of carracks, with an army, across the Atlantic to find the New World and gear up a massive army, funded by my powerhouse cities in Arguin and Timbuktu, to retake the Holy Land from the Mongols. And right when I’m about to have the Pope call a crusade, my German holdings get hit by the Poles and I’m forced to abandon my United Crusade plans to deal with that shit.
@Balinux
@Balinux 5 жыл бұрын
@@jackdaone6469 I can relate. Im running a Spartan campaign in Rome 2. I had taken over Greece, taken Itally from the Romans, and the Averni attack me from the north. It's fine, no campaign can be expected to go smooth, so I had to hold off the Averni while getting all available armies to clean up the Romans in the islands and the city of Carthage. Then the Averni ask for peace so they can fight off the Lusitans, but who knows how long that will last. So I had almost ended the Romans when some barbarian faction to the northwest of Greece decides to invade and take my territory while most of my armies are away. Now it's a matter of holding off on finishing the Romans, while rushing to retake my lands from opportunists, while expecting an invasion from the Averni. I can say CA is making us work for it.
@LiberRaider
@LiberRaider 4 жыл бұрын
Bro this cracked me up! I'm sitting here stressing about turning on the Persians cuz they've been down since day 1!
@goldnips3076
@goldnips3076 4 жыл бұрын
I had conquered everything except Timurid controlled Jerusalem and surrounding area, and Venice. Venice had been my ally the entire campaign and I couldn’t turn my back on them until they decided they didn’t want to be friends anymore. Broke my heart and I crushed them.
@IK-my5oq
@IK-my5oq 4 жыл бұрын
Balinux Yeah i felt so bad betraying my allies to the north.
@MrBiggins99
@MrBiggins99 5 жыл бұрын
It's so frustrating when your empire is so large that it's tedious to manage and becomes boring but you yearn for the satisfaction of completing the campaign.
@ArtilleryAffictionado1648
@ArtilleryAffictionado1648 4 жыл бұрын
France being one region was the epitome of absurd LMAO. Look at how many colonies there are in America!! They even bothered to include bogotá, Colombia FFS!!
@warwickthekingmaker7281
@warwickthekingmaker7281 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArtilleryAffictionado1648 I'm pretty sure you meant to answer the above comment, not this one
@ArtilleryAffictionado1648
@ArtilleryAffictionado1648 4 жыл бұрын
@@warwickthekingmaker7281 oh yah, danken
@lupinthe4th400
@lupinthe4th400 4 жыл бұрын
I just stop when I create a big empire. The moment I realize I can potentially conquer everyone, I stop.
@ArtistryofDebauchery
@ArtistryofDebauchery 4 жыл бұрын
In WH2 I only started having fun in the late game again when I just turned off notifications and ignored character skill points and settlements unless it was absolutely necessary.
@Perisher101
@Perisher101 5 жыл бұрын
I dont get how anyone can be bothered to control the entire map, I usually give up at the point where my faction is unrivaled militarily.
@Normandy-e8i
@Normandy-e8i 5 жыл бұрын
Literally.
@Rosa9.9
@Rosa9.9 5 жыл бұрын
I sometimes like to grind that, but it can be very boring. Also lvl4 cities in Rome2 are annoying AF to siege
@michaelstein7510
@michaelstein7510 5 жыл бұрын
Whether I do that or not depends on the game. I found it a lot of fun to complete map domination in Shogun 2, because the end game was actually fun and somewhat challenging due to Realm Divide. In most Total War campaigns, I just try to complete the victory conditions. It's not fun once you become unstoppable and just snowball everyone. At least Medieval 2 threw death stacks of Mongols and Timurids at you. Most of the games become challengeless once you become the dominant power in your region.
@nikkosimplina2135
@nikkosimplina2135 5 жыл бұрын
Well said
@MarcelSoares777
@MarcelSoares777 5 жыл бұрын
Warhammer 2 was the only one who kept me in painting the map.
@BoomDowg
@BoomDowg 5 жыл бұрын
Time for another "Top 5 mercenary units in Total War" post. I'll keep trying. :>
@quinnginbey3254
@quinnginbey3254 5 жыл бұрын
Mercenary Germanic levy in Rome 2 am I right?
@JourneyToTheCage
@JourneyToTheCage 5 жыл бұрын
Mercenary crossbowmen
@Aspiringamoeba1997
@Aspiringamoeba1997 5 жыл бұрын
Should that include regiments of renown?
@ollyclass
@ollyclass 5 жыл бұрын
Creten archers, you might get a Julianus Vertinius.
@D0pamine.3091
@D0pamine.3091 5 жыл бұрын
Armenian Archers and Armenian Cavalry from Medieval 2
@Damo2690
@Damo2690 5 жыл бұрын
Top 5 Loading screen quotes
@MagisterProcellas
@MagisterProcellas 5 жыл бұрын
"I am the King of Rome, and above grammar!" -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor -Medieval II loading screen
@thatoneguynextdoor8794
@thatoneguynextdoor8794 5 жыл бұрын
All the Death Poems in Shogun 2 that don't translate very good to English
@abvanzyl9885
@abvanzyl9885 5 жыл бұрын
"Russia has only two great generals. January and February"-Napoleon Bonaparte
@ltra42
@ltra42 5 жыл бұрын
@@MagisterProcellas I wish he said "I are the king of Rome, and above grammar"
@brekezek
@brekezek 5 жыл бұрын
@@ltra42 Aï empty kingo Vrome, and a bove granmar
@Ironpancakemoose
@Ironpancakemoose 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine Empire total war with 300 settlements, would be pretty fun if they improved the ai. That way france would have more than like 1 building.
@2D_SVD
@2D_SVD 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that napoleon then?
@2D_SVD
@2D_SVD 4 жыл бұрын
@@Elendrian I guess so, but at the same time americas were kinda empty and boring in ETW. Adding territories just for the sake of it is lame. It seems much more fun to me to play on a smaller part of the map but with more settlements. Because basically it's still the same conquest of lots of territories, even though in real world these territories are not that huge. And in terms of the largest map.. it feels like mortal empires from wh2 is quite larger than the map from empire (maybe if you include trading regions from ETW they would be similar though)
@user-ez9ng2rw9c
@user-ez9ng2rw9c 4 жыл бұрын
@@2D_SVD Napoleon still had very few settlements, and still had crap ai.
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. If it wasnt for lack of settlements and often broken onedimensional AI, Empire would be my most favorite title. Even Vanilla I play countless hours
@povilzem
@povilzem 5 жыл бұрын
Mortal Empires is the longest campaign because every time you end a turn, the AI turns take forever.
@SamuraiMorshu
@SamuraiMorshu 5 жыл бұрын
Great excuse to start exercising. Push-ups, sit-ups, hell do some aerobics you've got time to kill
@huitz1348
@huitz1348 5 жыл бұрын
@@SamuraiMorshu lol what ive been doing lol
@xd-ko9oo
@xd-ko9oo 5 жыл бұрын
@@SamuraiMorshusex
@rogerhill9559
@rogerhill9559 5 жыл бұрын
Nah man, try to play a Western Roman Empire on Attila. For the first 20-30 turns you'll have end turns that take 30 minutes to two hours as you'll have to fight multiple manual resolve battles every end turn.
@karl6997
@karl6997 5 жыл бұрын
Povilas Zemaitis you forgot extra settlements shogun 2, takes half a century each end turn
@thefightingfedora2976
@thefightingfedora2976 5 жыл бұрын
How about a top 5 Mercenary units vid?
@ElBandito
@ElBandito 5 жыл бұрын
Mercenary Crossbowmen from MTW2 is definitely up there.
@VarietyVideoGamer
@VarietyVideoGamer 5 жыл бұрын
Cretan archers Rome 1.
@renaultr3565
@renaultr3565 5 жыл бұрын
Alan light horsemen, I loved those guys in MTW2.
@dragonlord4643
@dragonlord4643 5 жыл бұрын
Srsly i asked that about 8 times and now someone else ask for it and it gets over 180 likes.... are you kidding me??!?!?!?!
@thefightingfedora2976
@thefightingfedora2976 5 жыл бұрын
@@dragonlord4643 Ive asked before too. You have to get in really early on Legends vids. Most people only read a few of the top comments.
@mariuscornescu7798
@mariuscornescu7798 5 жыл бұрын
Top 5 Sexiest generals
@elasolezito
@elasolezito 5 жыл бұрын
1. Karl Franz/Morathi 2. Leonidas (TW Arena)/ Cleopatra 3. Hannibal Barca/Isabella Carnstein 4. Germanicus/Teuta the Untameable 5. Liu bei/Jiang Zheng
@brekezek
@brekezek 5 жыл бұрын
In most Total war the generals are procedurally generated and only males. Maybe Sextius then
@kaptain_krunch
@kaptain_krunch 5 жыл бұрын
Queen Bootyca
@brekezek
@brekezek 5 жыл бұрын
The Hungarian general Hyusz Tiets
@Sm4shBG
@Sm4shBG 5 жыл бұрын
@@elasolezito This DOES have my consent
@SDZ675
@SDZ675 5 жыл бұрын
Thought for sure Rome 2 TW on release would be up there. Every time you click end turn, that was 2min gone.
@victorromano6707
@victorromano6707 5 жыл бұрын
And the crashed every 5 turns.
@morganwithaneevee246
@morganwithaneevee246 5 жыл бұрын
Thankfully its faster now, and the crashing has largely been fixed, but even then R2 has an extremely long campaign. I would honestly excuse W2 if only because its Vortex campaign is pretty short and sweet, and isn't the only campaign, while in R2 you have three equally long campaigns that require you to essentially control the entire map before you complete any of the campaigns, and then you get a military victory anyways.
@scipioafricanus6417
@scipioafricanus6417 5 жыл бұрын
@@morganwithaneevee246 the imperator campaign isn't that long, you only have to kill a few large factions, not dozens of one province minors.
@fattyMcGee97
@fattyMcGee97 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact that you'd do a naval siege and regret everything when you land a ship but it keeps going across the land - all the way to the edge of the map. Your troops wouldn't even disembark so you'd have to quit out and reload only for it to happen again. Rome 2 went from the worst total war ever made to one of the better ones
@GrasshopperKelly
@GrasshopperKelly 5 жыл бұрын
You never played Empire did you, especially withing 6 months of release, because not only did the AI take its time to manage everything (as in buildings, finances, government, units, unit care, recruitment and construction, diplomacy and trade etc.). I know people joke so much about, and take the piss out of Empire's engine and it's infancy. But it genuinly is good at managing all of the above, despite it having so much s*** to deal with. It of course, just took forever to do it, because it was so much. Of course, unit and army movement and battle management looked questionable, but the rest it truthfully is good at. The AI is just as good, if not slightly better in Napoleon, in addition to its massive efficiency boost, plus the lack of map size, and faction quantities. not just to take up time per turn, I mean the AI no longer had so many places to consider moving to, or countries to consider negotiations with etc. Hence Empire's turn time... After about 6-8 months, it was of course drastically reduced by about 30% though. The times the AI was calculating millions of options, and then stalling, because after one action it now decided to rethink it's second move, its priorities were changed, and certain ways in which it calculated were put more into predictions, and organising a better lost of plans in advance, as well as quickly changing and adapting post action etc. Nerdy stuff, that isn't really "seen" by the player, other than the countries flag, and possible unit movement, all taking up less time.
@sniperbullet6453
@sniperbullet6453 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you conquered all or most of the maps in all of the games
@Aterbrarum
@Aterbrarum 5 жыл бұрын
But didn't bother at all with Empire lol
@Normandy-e8i
@Normandy-e8i 5 жыл бұрын
>1. i havent actually taken over the entire map
@LegendofTotalWar
@LegendofTotalWar 5 жыл бұрын
@@Aterbrarum lol. I've conquered the map before with Empire but those save files have long since been deleted.
@linkkhanato6320
@linkkhanato6320 5 жыл бұрын
@@Aterbrarum Even if he didn't wouldn't blame him..not the best experience. Good naval battles for sure..but other then that..
@ivanschweizer9146
@ivanschweizer9146 5 жыл бұрын
@@linkkhanato6320 surprises me that a Total War has good naval battles, having started with Rome 2 it's kinda hard to imagine
@lordinvictus793
@lordinvictus793 5 жыл бұрын
I just finished an ETW campaign. Not sure how long in RL hours, but for me as Austria to conquer the entire map it took until 1954.
@dadjokes8963
@dadjokes8963 4 жыл бұрын
i think prussia is the best take out poland then russia and then turn on the turks and move from there at least thats my plan
@bountyhunter1153
@bountyhunter1153 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus thats so long
@brohvakiindova4452
@brohvakiindova4452 4 жыл бұрын
@@dadjokes8963 great britain is probably best and was super easy too, you start with two colonies in northern america as well as the possibility to confederate what would become the US in reality you also have a spot in the carribean giving you a huge advantage over most other factions your home territory is super safe, for some reason the AI didn't even try to invade at any time but even if they try it's really easy to defend because the AI is really bad if they can only attack by naval invasion (they will split their troops way more than via land route) I was at war with spain and later france for at least 50 turns each without them ever becoming a threat just rush to india early on and grab as many trade points as possible along the way and you're really really far ahead in no time I managed to secure india pretty fast before anyone else bothered to go down there while also conquering large parts of america with austria and prussia you're surrounded by enemies and potential enemies and conquering european cities is way harder than places in india or america in the early game (also most of them are owned by minor factions and even native tribes in other words you can safely steamroll as britain very fast
@psyop6942
@psyop6942 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the naval battles in "Empire". The wind direction and hull mechanic was quite fun.
@kapitanbeuteltier5889
@kapitanbeuteltier5889 5 жыл бұрын
Same, but with Napoleon for me!
@shooter2224
@shooter2224 5 жыл бұрын
@@kapitanbeuteltier5889 i hope we get more games in that period!
@Caststriker
@Caststriker 5 жыл бұрын
@@shooter2224 I don't
@thomasprent2179
@thomasprent2179 5 жыл бұрын
@@Caststriker k no one cares
@Caststriker
@Caststriker 5 жыл бұрын
@@thomasprent2179 Apparently you cared enough to reply :)
@timur22993
@timur22993 5 жыл бұрын
*watches top 5 videos just to see where the Rome and Medieval II are at*
@BlahfestNeiley
@BlahfestNeiley 5 жыл бұрын
Empire and Napoleon's naval battles were so good. Getting up close and making the splinters fly. Getting the wind advantage and shrekking a Ship-of-the-line with a frigate... great memories. Makes me want to download them again.
@jesuschrist6575
@jesuschrist6575 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Napoleon tw was absolutely amazing, I hope CA makes another game from that time period
@toxicaristotle3052
@toxicaristotle3052 4 жыл бұрын
The most annoying thing in Rome total war You: just made peace Senate: attack them
@Kalder44
@Kalder44 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot playing as Bretonnia and not knowing you had to move your lord to the top right corner of the map so you just sit there in Kislev eating stack after stack of chaos.
@kenny3179
@kenny3179 5 жыл бұрын
Oof
@victuz
@victuz 5 жыл бұрын
Did that with Empire. Placed 5 full armies in ambush stance close to Chaos wastelands... So every time their armies showed up they couldn't enter invade the continent because they would keep getting demolished by ambushes. In the ambushes I pinned their whole army in a "box" and just let the handgunners and artillery do their jobs, a true slaughterhouse.
@Tiger2071-e6f
@Tiger2071-e6f 4 жыл бұрын
One of the other things that really slows down the Empire campaign is that, with the way the tech tree works, you have to research techs in a particular order in order to actually progress to either better ships or better units, or even just getting the percussion shells for howitzers which takes like 100 turns or something stupid like that
@masasikisimoto26
@masasikisimoto26 5 жыл бұрын
Top 10 doomstacks in tw wh2.
@Jack-jb4qd
@Jack-jb4qd 5 жыл бұрын
Trolltakerz (or something like that) Orc Warboss, 11 trolls, 3 giants, 5 cygors. Fucking awful when they appear.
@godlovesyou1995
@godlovesyou1995 5 жыл бұрын
No in total war overall
@nqh4393
@nqh4393 5 жыл бұрын
Karl Franz + 19 Steam Tanks?
@masasikisimoto26
@masasikisimoto26 5 жыл бұрын
I think the strongest is Bretonnia's hippogriff knights spam. But it's interesting what Legend thinks, maybe he'll test them in battles.
@Scientist118
@Scientist118 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jack-jb4qd You sweet summer child, the Mongolian death stacks a far more worse than what those orcs and trolls can do. That's not considering the Timurids and their cannon elephants.
@Scorpion122178
@Scorpion122178 5 жыл бұрын
You're playing Norsca, its turn 300 the Dwarfs have 73 settlements and just declared war on you. "I've been in this situation before."
@tarnyowl6068
@tarnyowl6068 5 жыл бұрын
Ever try beast men vs the infinite recolonised empire?
@slaaneshshewhothirst9136
@slaaneshshewhothirst9136 4 жыл бұрын
Henry Lidiard or Chaos Warriors Kislev is Hard to kill
@Mantis42
@Mantis42 5 жыл бұрын
you can vassalize and annex a faction in the same turn in Three Kingdoms. Just got to beat up their armies a bit first. This makes expansion quicker
@rbp8965
@rbp8965 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Original Rome Total War Barbarian Invasions expansion deserves an honorable mention, the chance that a normal rebellion could endup spawning a horde like 7 full stack Ostrogoths in the middle of your territories made for a bit of whack a mole that could drag out campaigns...
@svenbrede6151
@svenbrede6151 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen a player in TW three kingdoms double his territory through diplomatic annexation of a vassal. This should shorten the process substantially.
@BaronofGermania
@BaronofGermania 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen someone conquered almost the entire map though rice in no time lol
@wololo4206
@wololo4206 5 жыл бұрын
Your looking at 200+ turns to 'finish' as a rough indication, depends when you want to finish though!
@orarinnsnorrason4614
@orarinnsnorrason4614 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't this a special ability of like one faction at the start of the game? That really skewes the time it takes since not all factions can do that until later in their respective campaigns.
@kristiannicholson5893
@kristiannicholson5893 5 жыл бұрын
@@orarinnsnorrason4614 I don't recall any of the factions being able to create vassals from the start. Liu Bei can Unify from the start but nobody will accept.
@Bellaexe5091
@Bellaexe5091 5 жыл бұрын
Total War Three Kingdoms is possibly the hardest total war I’ve ever played. Every time I’ve restarted I’ve grown huge with very large armies and then I get caught in a mega coalition battle and destroyed due to how many sides they hit me from
@thatoneguynextdoor8794
@thatoneguynextdoor8794 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Asia, first they have realm divide, now they have huge coalitions
@Gonboo
@Gonboo 5 жыл бұрын
Empire never felt that long because the damn game would always crash and the save file corrupt before you finished a campaign.
@vladdrakul7851
@vladdrakul7851 5 жыл бұрын
Rubbish. I have finished this game so many times I cannot remember. And not once did it crash for me?? I LOVE Empire!
@dwarfie24
@dwarfie24 5 жыл бұрын
This, I have tried completing it 10 times (as in going for total domination). Every single time it would either bug itself out because an ai got too big to think properly or in later tries it would just crash and save file becomes corrupted. To this day this piece of garbage has a negative review from me. And it's the main reason I am working on stopping my Total War addiction. Rome 2 messy launch really convinced me of that.
@dwarfie24
@dwarfie24 5 жыл бұрын
@@vladdrakul7851 Aand? What's your point with this non-representative analogy?
@joevenespineli6389
@joevenespineli6389 5 жыл бұрын
I finished a lot of campaigns already and it only crashes out in certain battles, or in my current campaign it crashes when I take Cuba from the Pirates.
@dwarfie24
@dwarfie24 5 жыл бұрын
@@joevenespineli6389 Good for you. Stories like these are the reason I bought it sadly.
@dragonlord4643
@dragonlord4643 5 жыл бұрын
Top 5 Mercenary Units. just to support the mercenarys
@davidsekhleyan693
@davidsekhleyan693 5 жыл бұрын
I think that WRE campaign from Attila must be in this top
@DutchTDK
@DutchTDK 5 жыл бұрын
Either you autoresolve and lose or spend 4 hours between turns doing every single repetitive battle against the same units with the same garrison again and again
@victorromano6707
@victorromano6707 5 жыл бұрын
It was the longest campaign I've played in a TW. Rome 1 has Big campaigns too, due to the slow pace of the game.
@ghazghkull133
@ghazghkull133 5 жыл бұрын
My WRE playthrough reminded me or mortal empires because of the really long end turn times. However in ME the long turns are because of all the factions. In WRE the long turns are because you get attacked at least 5 times a turn, and much more in the early game.
@WillowMaster
@WillowMaster 5 жыл бұрын
I remember my first Rome 2 conquest... damn thing took me over a year as the Romans
@frbrbrgrblgrr7777
@frbrbrgrblgrr7777 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Legend! I'm a huge fan of these kinds of campaigns and am ordering a computer soon so I'm excited to jump in to some of these!
@sebastianlarsson2566
@sebastianlarsson2566 5 жыл бұрын
Empire total war really does take the cake for a long campaign, as even if you get 20 regions in order to unlock the victory conditions, you still have to wait until the campaign deadline.
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross 5 жыл бұрын
yep try doing that with darth mod etc.
@die1mayer
@die1mayer 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheManofthecross I did it in DM, even after full map completion i had to mindlessly click on the end turn button 100 times, only to get a shitty cinematic.
@LechuZcechu
@LechuZcechu 5 жыл бұрын
Europa barbarorum? It took you 2 years :D
@IronFreakV
@IronFreakV 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think mods count, they should have a list of their own in that case
@LegendofTotalWar
@LegendofTotalWar 5 жыл бұрын
It actually only took me a month. It took 2 years to upload it all. And mods don't count.
@maltesimusfraterdemassimo7215
@maltesimusfraterdemassimo7215 5 жыл бұрын
@@LegendofTotalWar If you look back at it, would you call it 'Pike month'? :)
@breaden4381
@breaden4381 5 жыл бұрын
Then there’s EB 2. They just don’t die!
@hieroprotoganist3440
@hieroprotoganist3440 5 жыл бұрын
Its more like bloated battle time. U engage ur troops and the enemies take 40 mins to die. While u watch half a movie in that time.
@FugieGamers
@FugieGamers 5 жыл бұрын
Im playing rome 2 as my second total war and ive been playing grand campaign for months...
@entiresquare6262
@entiresquare6262 5 жыл бұрын
LiveFreeOrDie i find rome 2 to be pretty fast, you can build so many armies compared to other total war games were you might have 1 army for a long time before you have enough economy. Also in rome i find myself having really ridiculously lopsided victories compared to other games especially as hellenic factions who have access to elephants
@darkspirit8247
@darkspirit8247 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to quarantine I have won 2 Grand Campaign and 1 Imperator Augustus together with 1 Caesar in Gaul but yes it takes a long time, especially for the requirements which sometimes are almost impossible, conquest of Bactria as Macedonia
@countschnitzel8903
@countschnitzel8903 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkspirit8247 They make sense, tho. As Macedonia, you're trying to rebuild Alexander's empire, not make a Macedonian-flavored Roman empire copy. I like that. Apart from the quantity of provinces the location requirements simplistically point to the proper direction and eventual borders, thus forcing you to orient your expansion, even if the player has no idea of (or doesn't care about) the history or circumstances. The problem often comes from the "gamey" nature of the player's campaigns, themselves. Macedon has no business conquering Britain, Gaul or Iberia, that's on you. Not impossible, but inefficient and pointless.
@RTWhirlwind
@RTWhirlwind 5 жыл бұрын
It’s cool that you branched off to do this type of side video, especially as well done as they are. Years ago I expected a branch off but I always thought it would be something like hey guys vote on my next Piss off Legend Campaign and people would vote on the campaigns that you would rant alot on like Greek Cities in Rome. You always say play to your strengths not your weaknesses so thats why I had a weird ass fever thought like that.
@Sindri4346
@Sindri4346 5 жыл бұрын
Just wait for tw wh 3 and trying to fully capture that behemoth of a map.
@n3v3rforgott3n9
@n3v3rforgott3n9 5 жыл бұрын
waiting for the AIs to take their turns will make SURE it's the longest campaign lol
@CapybaraConnoisseur89
@CapybaraConnoisseur89 5 жыл бұрын
I hope they will work on turn times, they're the worst especially if you have slower PC.
@linhuichi937
@linhuichi937 5 жыл бұрын
@@CapybaraConnoisseur89 solution: get a faster PC.
@chrisstgeorge3016
@chrisstgeorge3016 5 жыл бұрын
@@linhuichi937 solution: go fuck yourself
@yodaiam9305
@yodaiam9305 5 жыл бұрын
@@CapybaraConnoisseur89 that's because of the campaign scripting since there are plenty of nations, even more than TW3K's nation. I'd rather have a long end turn than having the AI making dumb decision
@MrDUneven
@MrDUneven 5 жыл бұрын
How come everyone knows Total War Three Kindoms but I haven't even played yet Total War Kindoms or Total War II Kindoms?
@joshuabrant3487
@joshuabrant3487 5 жыл бұрын
@@GabrielCazorlaPersson1 lol
@fatal_error_3
@fatal_error_3 4 жыл бұрын
The longest and most grinding campaign I ever saw was Third Age Total War Mod for Medieval Total War II. The mod has special precautions to make fast expansion difficult, and Elves in particular need a long time for military buildings. Add to that the huge distances and it was an absolute chore. I did a campaign with Lothlorian and my war against Rhun seemed to never end.
@marincro704
@marincro704 5 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine the end turn times and campaing time for total war warhammer 3 mortal empires..
@orarinnsnorrason4614
@orarinnsnorrason4614 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah plus they're probably going to utilize what TK is doing. From what I've seen the turn timers in TK is the fastest to date.
@alexbaseball4684
@alexbaseball4684 5 жыл бұрын
SmashStomp Inc you can tell they really improved end turn time in total war 3 kingdoms
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexbaseball4684 3 kingdoms uses a different more effective engine tough. Upgrading Warhammer to that engine may be extremely time consuming
@victuz
@victuz 5 жыл бұрын
@@orarinnsnorrason4614 Damn, even faster than Rome 2?
@victuz
@victuz 5 жыл бұрын
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Better time-consuming and efforts than a rushed game.
@slone679
@slone679 5 жыл бұрын
10000% agree about Empire battles. Heck, I'd spend 5 minutes just surveying the terrain. Those battles can be exhausting. Two or three and I'm spent.
@Normandy-e8i
@Normandy-e8i 5 жыл бұрын
True with a lot of these games for me
@lotrlmao1648
@lotrlmao1648 4 жыл бұрын
Managing settlements in Total War Medieval 2 in late games took the most of my time. At least average 30 minutes are to spend in one turn to recruit, construct, or checking income detail and change gorvornor and so on.
@richardholmes1920
@richardholmes1920 5 жыл бұрын
How about a top 5 strategies to beating the Mongols/timurids?
@godlovesyou1995
@godlovesyou1995 5 жыл бұрын
Best is with longbowmen. Put stakes at gates...Also longbowman octagon with stakes on all sides and maybe a cannon in the middle.
@michaelstein7510
@michaelstein7510 5 жыл бұрын
I would just build some forts, bait them into taking your fort, then attack them inside the fort with a bunch of archers and artillery. Their numbers won't help them, and they can't maneuver around like on the open field. Or like the other poster said, longbowmen with stakes in a chokepoint (or behind some pikemen) will do heavy damage to them.
@snowisthebestweather
@snowisthebestweather 5 жыл бұрын
Cannons for the Timurids. 2 or 3 good cannons can get rid of almost all the elephants from one army in a single battle. Pavise crossbows are your friend for both factions. You can win the ranged battle even if your crossbows are outnumbered thanks to being armor-piercing and having lots of defense from armor and shield. Other than that, take only units with good morale. Dismounted feudals and high-tier heavy cavalry. If it doesn't say "good morale," don't bother unless you have a general that gives a lot of extra morale because otherwise they'll break almost instantly.
@RTWhirlwind
@RTWhirlwind 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Holmes This, I think would be a good one, but the problem is that most strategies for beating them devolve into faction specifics. You will immediately hear the longbowmen stakes, but that is England only and so forth. Outside of one legend has done with the fort spam they are all the doom crossbowmen style suggestions and your like ya but not everyone gets pavise.
@snowisthebestweather
@snowisthebestweather 5 жыл бұрын
Pavise xbows still work with 8/18 playable factions. Better than the 1/18 that the longbow people were talking about. The rest holds true for any faction: high morale and heavy cavalry.
@TheJMBon
@TheJMBon 5 жыл бұрын
"Couple of turns" Turn counter at 201
@countschnitzel8903
@countschnitzel8903 4 жыл бұрын
He... Painted the map in Medieval 2 with the Ottomans in 14 turns. World record at the time, apparently. He's 14 or something in those videos. The dude knows what he's talking about. Also, here he explains, that the new world becomes available at turn 200, completionists would have to contend with that, he did too - in order to show off the area in-game. edit: Just realized this is probably a joke... Better late than never... Woosh, indeed.
@xthetenth
@xthetenth 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to point out medieval 1. It's got a lot of the same things that make medieval 2 take forever, but instead of the Americas and the Timurids, instead when you hit 70% map painting, it just respawns literally every single major faction with multiple full stack armies of top tier troops as a 'revolt'. It's wild.
@sirjoey3137
@sirjoey3137 5 жыл бұрын
My Vampire Counts campaign took so damn long, I got to turn 70+, and by that time every turn took around 40 minutes, most of the time more than that.
@BurkinaFaso69
@BurkinaFaso69 5 жыл бұрын
but... how? and why
@Empyrealite
@Empyrealite 4 жыл бұрын
Potato
@trenthowell26
@trenthowell26 5 жыл бұрын
Top 5 Mod Campaigns? In the midst of several Third Age DAC campaigns, there are some amazing mod campaigns, would love to see your list.
@ronnie9847
@ronnie9847 5 жыл бұрын
*Top 5 Total war easiest factions to beat.*
@meninothomass
@meninothomass 5 жыл бұрын
5 - Scotland from M2TW 4 - Scotland from M2TW 3 - Scotland from M2TW 2 - Scotland from M2TW Honorable Mention - Scotland from M2TW 1 - Scotland from M2TW
@emre30489
@emre30489 5 жыл бұрын
true
@thatoneguynextdoor8794
@thatoneguynextdoor8794 5 жыл бұрын
Scotland in Medieval 2 Tokugawa in Shogun 2 Both Fujiwara Clans in Shogun 2 RotS Sicily in Medieval 2 Mughal Empire in Empire Ottoman empire in Empire Austria in Napoleon
@meninothomass
@meninothomass 5 жыл бұрын
@sum body I don't think it's clever but I don't see how it's annoying. I just wanted to state my opinion on how I think Scotland is easy to beat in M2TW
@paulmeaney4547
@paulmeaney4547 5 жыл бұрын
Numidia in Rome TW, literally just javelins
@jackcanox4015
@jackcanox4015 5 жыл бұрын
I love this series! Keep it up legend!
@sarmatiancougar7556
@sarmatiancougar7556 3 жыл бұрын
The Empire TW Russian campaign is a straight up torture. Your forces will always be stretched thin and the AI is doing everything in its power to make you feel very uncomfortable. It’s a shame Legend never recorded doing this campaign.
@SalexeSAE
@SalexeSAE 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you there Legend. Little bit skeptical about medieval 2 and empires placement. But I get why you choose it this way.
@BaronVonMott
@BaronVonMott 4 жыл бұрын
Never mind overall campaign times, try just getting through the TURN times as West Rome in Attila...
@selder_7
@selder_7 5 жыл бұрын
I remember spending DAYS just keeping the old world empire in check ticking through the turns waiting to be able to go to the Americas. Sent ships full of merchants over and assassins and spies and then 10 full armies by the time I could go. Watching the plague happen was terrifying. And I had 15 full stacks guarding from timurids and I still had to send reinforcements
@selder_7
@selder_7 11 ай бұрын
To elaborate: during the plague my income totally ground to a halt and I had to stop building anything until it was over (I was spending like 100000 in buildings a turn normally), and on the charts the debt in the population that otherwise was only ever growing is daunting. My kings were terrible and crazy because they had nothing to do so I sent him around to kill rebels during the plague struck years hoping he’d die, and the crazy guy lived! Fitting that the crazy guy then demanded that massive armies sail into nothing for years, but maybe he wasn’t crazy after all
@R3GARnator
@R3GARnator 5 жыл бұрын
When you want to fight a campaign that's long, hard, and uncut.
@merdufer
@merdufer 5 жыл бұрын
In Three Kingdoms, you can save time by vassalizing and assimilating factions towards the end. You'll be super treacherous, true, but that doesn't matter when there are like 3 factions left.
@piotrkwasniewski7774
@piotrkwasniewski7774 5 жыл бұрын
In case of Attila, I think what Legend says is very true - 300 hours into this game and I barely completed 5 campaigns(hard) - unless you play as Sassanids then you just mow ride through everything and everyone - they are so overpowered in this game ;)
@BaronofGermania
@BaronofGermania 5 жыл бұрын
I completed WRE in Attila on very hard and it took me 6 months lol
@goorahdemi9621
@goorahdemi9621 5 жыл бұрын
After 130 years, my great grandson has finally conquered the new and old world with only goblins.
@godking
@godking 5 жыл бұрын
I have never done a total map completion. Once your the Hegemon and cannot be matched militarily and have completed the victory conditions it gets borting. Battle only has value when there is a challenge to it.
@WTFisDrifting
@WTFisDrifting 5 жыл бұрын
godking turtle more, allow the ai to get stronger. Be happy with smaller kingdoms. Role play that shit. Especially not expanding rapidly will help with the difficulty.
@theendofconfusion
@theendofconfusion 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! How about top 5 ideas for what you want a new Total War game to be about. Like maybe a Game of Thrones Total War game.
@Al3xtheMeh
@Al3xtheMeh 5 жыл бұрын
Please do top 5 most influential/impactful historical figures in Total War. Obviously there’s not gonna be any Warhammer characters tho.
@GeoShock
@GeoShock 5 жыл бұрын
top 5 quest battles in warhammer 2?
@MrBones-td6qn
@MrBones-td6qn 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't even mention the Mortal Empires end turn time as a contributing factor. I hate to think how many centuries of my life I've been gathering dust in this chair waiting for that damn timer >.>
@mackmasters325
@mackmasters325 5 жыл бұрын
if i tried to play that game my computer would actually catch on fire
@jaxionmaxomus4315
@jaxionmaxomus4315 5 жыл бұрын
I started as the Saxons for my first game, big mistake cause I was fighting for my life for the first like 20 turns
@Xukti
@Xukti 5 жыл бұрын
I just settle down on being a strong power and taking my time with proxy wars of my allies with small armies, sometimes just 3-4 unit strong. Something that made Empire total war actually quite fun.
@whzpoor
@whzpoor 4 жыл бұрын
this is always showing in my feed and that's ok, the thumbnail always get me
@turnerblick2319
@turnerblick2319 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I saw this thumbnail in my feed and clicked on it, assuming it was about the 2020 Presidential Election😂😂
@jubjub15
@jubjub15 4 жыл бұрын
Same!!!
@Kamadros
@Kamadros 5 жыл бұрын
Three Kingdoms campaigns actually dont take that much time, because as soon as you arrive at the three kingdoms state of the campaign you can demand from the other two kingdoms to abolish their claim to emperorship which means they surrender all of their generals and territories to you, which can be half of the map. And its not that hard to archive because you just have to defeat most of their armys and have a significant military advantage over them. Doesnt seem to matter how much territory they still own.
@ishmaschmunzlebug4235
@ishmaschmunzlebug4235 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid legend! How about a top 5 cheesiest siege tactics? (across all TW games)
@boomerix
@boomerix 4 жыл бұрын
I remember siting there, known world painted black, hitting "next turn" waiting for the mongols to show, being bored.....
@Hrolfgord
@Hrolfgord 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about TWWH2s end turn timers that’s anywhere from a minute to 10 minutes especially when every faction is asking for something from you
@kristiannicholson5893
@kristiannicholson5893 5 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, the real reason Mortal Empires takes so long is the end turn process. I wanted that giant fantasy map so bad until it actually came out and I spent more time watching their tiny flags scroll slowly across the top than I did actually playing the game.
@nergalsmom
@nergalsmom 5 жыл бұрын
Why isn't your Europa Barbarorum Seleucid campaign the number one? :D
@Turmoilfeed
@Turmoilfeed 5 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to part 1489429 of my europa barbarorum lets play campaign as the seleucid empire, so previously we....." Proceeds to retrain slingers, forgetting troop transports, swearing at fucking pikemen, hating on chariots but still keeping them, this is peak legend.
@Hawnzor
@Hawnzor 5 жыл бұрын
EB and TITW Carthage should be on this list. Took him 40 years to do both of those, followed by TITW WRE and ERE. What's this general campaign shiet?
@nergalsmom
@nergalsmom 5 жыл бұрын
@Turmoilfeed I swear that's the most epic campaign ever recorded on camera :D
@americohagim1131
@americohagim1131 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there was an option to have infinite turns because sometimes I just wanna watch the countries eat each other and then after building up millions of troops invade all those countries
@belbZzZ
@belbZzZ 5 жыл бұрын
How about top 5 regimens of renowned in warhammer 2
@boltfantasticated9705
@boltfantasticated9705 5 жыл бұрын
tfw Warhammer 2 is #1 and he didn't even talk about how the waiting for your turn once you end it could take almost a whole minute. smh
@tarnyowl6068
@tarnyowl6068 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a lot shorter a wait now so the video has aged well
@etwisabeta
@etwisabeta 5 жыл бұрын
3 kingdom is really long as well as rome 2 and empire but the thing with turn base game is that you can take as long as you like to finish a campaign if you don’t want to rush and auto resolve everything.
@mufurcify
@mufurcify 5 жыл бұрын
in three kingdoms on legendary difficulty I had to fight 150 battles manually. even if you just take an average of 10 minutes. that is kind of a lot.
@brentkisby8570
@brentkisby8570 4 жыл бұрын
Empire is totally true! I have spent like 30 hours in one campaign as England and barely scratched the surface. Also, Empire is my favorite by far. I started with Rome and Medieval II. Def my favoriate.
@stephan4921
@stephan4921 5 жыл бұрын
I just finished my Zheng Jiang grand campaign (capture every settlement), it took me 224 turns and there are 70 commanderies, 187 counties. Took me an estimated 35-40 hours to complete.
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross 5 жыл бұрын
yeah and the win condition for a campaign is to hold 95 counties including the capitals of the other 2 kingdoms while defending your own.
@GrasshopperKelly
@GrasshopperKelly 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to point out, for factions like the Romans, even on the easist difficulties, with -1 to happiness, there can still be enough s*** to deal with, especially like food in barren provinces, with Cattle not being as efficient as say Camels to farm etc. But your still right to word it as "Not caring about constant revolts" etc. If you've invested in at Least level 2 settlements before moving your post conquest policing armies on, if either the province is calmer, or you need them on the next province, or the province is simply not the one boarding any opposition anymore etc. and ideally upgrading to level 3 minimum. Because you'll be able to more or less just crush them on the defensive, especially given the defensive capabilities of Roman armies, and the fact, suitably, the most defensive units, are the garrison units. I'd be pretty passed if we got Palatina as garrison units.... Just managing your defensive army properly, like a good commander, lunch as focusing the archers on the heavier infantry with heavy shots or whatever infantry they have, or their General (if on foot) with heavy shot, and leaving the cavalry to attempt to charge over infantry with boosted attack vs cavalry, boosted defence to charges, and 500% entity mass, ie. almost no movement from impact, and as a result pretty much no deaths from the charge itself... Focusing axeman is another good piece of advice. Ignoring their ranged too, and then just charging that hidden unit of equites at them all (while keeping fire at will off). The unit you hid outside the town perimeter ;), or their artillery crews. Then waiting for the right moment to run up toe that blob of infantry attempting to push the bottleneck you closed up, sitting there, and opening fire at will (remmembering to keep a good few metres away just incase they do send one unit at your equites, they tend to) keeping the horses out of melee, and them maybe charging them if the general is finally dead, and/or there's not many left. Definitely not if there's a lot left, and they're spears..... Running your Praeventores into their rear, or having them nearby ready to ram their rear, so as to manage your troops, and keep them alive. Using their cheer incase your units need a minor buff too. Especially vs the Huns if you stuck with Christianity. Camping the archers once they're dry on the cap if the bottleneck is right beside it, and the quantity of enemy units is so high that the 20 guys they've pushed far enough in start to out cap your defending Legio xD. So yea, long story short, I invest in a happy populace, but when I can't deal with a iminant revolt in one turn, and the local towns are big enough, I'll gladly just accept the garrison's new "experience." xD
@Dagoth9012
@Dagoth9012 5 жыл бұрын
I did a Mortal Empires campaign with the Empire in wich I had to destroy every evil faction. Dark Elves, skaven, orcs, undead, chaos, norsca, etc. Took more than 300 turns. But it was really fun.
@odedraamit5015
@odedraamit5015 5 жыл бұрын
Love the top 5s keep it up
@thomasnk9489
@thomasnk9489 5 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, for me Three Kingdoms was the shortest, because at a certain point you can ask the smaller factions to join you, and then you your size explodes....
@georgivelev5783
@georgivelev5783 5 жыл бұрын
Could you please make playlists with all of your top 5, top best/worst videos put in order on one place, because it is so annoying to go through hundreds of videos to look for them?
@Hslt95
@Hslt95 5 жыл бұрын
top 5 total war soundtracks
@Hslt95
@Hslt95 5 жыл бұрын
probably no one cares but my favourite is the Arab battle music from medieval 1
@marchewa999
@marchewa999 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hslt95 In my opinion thrones of britannia and Rome total war 2. Maybe medieval 2 battle music.
@luckyassassin1
@luckyassassin1 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta say that in empire the AI start out reasonably weak but after the first big war, which happens really early for me, everyone has a dick load and a half of troops and armies and every battle is like 30-45 minutes of micromanagement to ensure that you lose very few so you can have a lot of troops for the battle that is going to happen immediately after this one is over
@lastword8783
@lastword8783 5 жыл бұрын
2:11 dat music tho. So Majestic.
@hanruvorster3760
@hanruvorster3760 5 жыл бұрын
My Largest army was a small amount of 230,560 units and 2439 Naval. in empire total war. conquered the whole of North Africa and India, Russia with that army. I had multiple battalions guarding my borders as well.
@killertigerace
@killertigerace 4 жыл бұрын
Only time I’ve conquered the whole map was actually in empire total war with Austria, got bored so I would cause rebellions just to have some actions
@FaithfulOfBrigantia
@FaithfulOfBrigantia 5 жыл бұрын
I usually play untill i conquer the historical borders of the nation i am playing as at its peak, unify a specific region, untill I finish the campaign goal, or untill I defeat my arch-nemesis. The only TW where i conquered the whole map was playing the Julii in Rome, because when I reached the historical borders of the Roman Empire, there were only like 5 settlements left anyway.
@Ishabaal
@Ishabaal 5 жыл бұрын
Time to start doing Total War speedruns? I would be interested in seeing this win Medieval 2 campaign in "a couple turns" thing myself.
@BeyondDM
@BeyondDM 5 жыл бұрын
hey, great video. I always check out your Top 5 TW video's. I've always wanted to get into these games but they never really hooked me. What would be your top 5 TW games to get into Total War?
@Nēsan9304
@Nēsan9304 5 жыл бұрын
western roman empire campaign ,on legendary settings, first turns probably have the most battles from any other faction in any other total war game
@wile123456
@wile123456 4 жыл бұрын
I've only conquered the entire map in total war like twice. Like most strategy games, it gets super boring after a while. When you have so many armies and things to manage, each turn becomes a grind. I usually quit after I got a decent chunk and feel like I've reached some goals.
@thebiertriot8408
@thebiertriot8408 5 жыл бұрын
top 5 cheesiest factions
@TheHacknor
@TheHacknor 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he's already done this?
@thebiertriot8408
@thebiertriot8408 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHacknor think just for WH
@indrickboreale7381
@indrickboreale7381 5 жыл бұрын
These Huns with Xyon Archers from Attila.
@morganwithaneevee246
@morganwithaneevee246 5 жыл бұрын
Seluclids from R2. Literally every unit type and an insane amount of land and vassals. Plus the highest tier cavalry building doesn't require tech.
@BobbyB1928
@BobbyB1928 5 жыл бұрын
Germania from rome 1
@JonatasMonte
@JonatasMonte 5 жыл бұрын
If you get bored of taking everything just mass auto resolve, that's how I endured Shogun 2 fight against samurai retainers.
@Manwu5
@Manwu5 5 жыл бұрын
i love this kind of videos!
@metalmonkey007888
@metalmonkey007888 5 жыл бұрын
Top 5 weirdest strategies that actually work
@michaelstein7510
@michaelstein7510 5 жыл бұрын
In Empire Total War, you can win almost any line infantry engagement, assuming numbers are about equal, by doing this: 1. Group your infantry into two lines as wide as possible, and have the first line stand about firing distance in front of the other. 2. Wait for the enemy to engage your first line of infantry. Have them fire two volleys at the enemy, then have them retreat just behind your second line of infantry. 3. The AI will pursue them without recognizing the danger your second line poses to them until it's too late, so your second line will get off some close-range volleys before the enemy can respond. 4. Both your lines fire on the remaining enemies and drive them from the battlefield. You can literally defeat an army composed of elite tier infantry with militia units by using these tactics. The AI just can't deal with a feigned retreat.
@alexbaseball4684
@alexbaseball4684 5 жыл бұрын
They need to make empire total war 2 with China and Japan added that would be awesome
@thatoneguynextdoor8794
@thatoneguynextdoor8794 5 жыл бұрын
Japan was pretty introverted at that point, but China aswell as Siberia, Australia, the rest of America and Africa..... Man, a real "World" Map! That d be great!
@lars9925
@lars9925 5 жыл бұрын
It depends on your faction far too much for such a list. For example: Empire with the UK or Attila with the Sassanids doesn't take that long.
@failtolawl
@failtolawl 5 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with every total war game is that the campaign makes you rush and not enjoy the game.
@Lilybun
@Lilybun 5 жыл бұрын
The beta patch of 3 kingdoms seems to help with the vassal blobbing in case anyone is having trouble with it
@Upgryd
@Upgryd 4 жыл бұрын
Damn didn’t realize 3 kingdoms was this old
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