Top 7 Most Overhyped Motorcycle Features

[@k3y155]

All these rider aids on small-displacement bikes when all we want is ABS and cruise control on our middleweight bikes.

[@matchu13]

it would also be nice if they added an option that comes with 0 rider aids.

[@k3y155]

@@matchu13 that would be nice, too. More options in general, I suppose

[@user-ox2xi6kk8o]

My phone is on silent and tucked away when I ride. I don't use GPS when riding. Plan the route before I go.

[@Motovation.785]

@@matchu13or just make abs standard with the option to easily turn it off

[@michaelf.2449]

@@Motovation.785abs traction control that’s all I’d ask for and have both easily disabled in the menu

[@MaddCasper]

I’ll take keyless entry. My R1 was removed from my presence because a dude was able to dig in the starter and fire it up. Had a BMW keyless and loved it

[@EggEnjoyer]

Keyless cars are also known for being strong via the fraudulent key signals. You think that won’t happen to one of these bikes?

[@Jash_F]

@@EggEnjoyer indeed a simple man sitting inside a van next to your bike, to hijack the signal. rip

[@VegasDave3000]

@@Jash_Fthat implies they know where you’ll stop. That means opportunistic thieves are deterred. That’s a net gain to me.

[@mikedominick]

Us track riders do ignition deletes a lot. It sucks when you get all the way to track… but forgot your key! We also use keyless gas caps too.

[@rizen3467]

Well, theres also systems like the honda H.I.S.S. , which pretty much is a combination between a normal key and RFID protection so you cant wire start the bike.

[@pg.travels]

I test drove a Ducati Diavel... Drove home (2 hours away) and got a message from the owner saying "You've got my keys".... It was keyless ignition and i forgot to give the key back lol

[@aidencoder]

Wouldn't the same thing happen if you took their non-keyless key too? Either way, you took their key. It being keyless isn't important.

[@aidencoder]

Nevermind. I am dumb. I suppose it is harder to forget you have someone's key in your pocket if it doesn't live in your pocket.

[@pg.travels]

@@aidencoder It would usually be in the bike when I got back. It was just in my pocket the whole time.... It was a long day by the time I returned it...

[@Gimpthulhu]

Speaking of quicker shifters, when did riders stop learning to do clutchless upshifts? It's strange that something so easy to do seems to have become a lost skill.

[@cedricparkinson3635]

My '21 Ninja 650 has nothing , no rider aids no ABS, nothing, and it is very enjoyable to ride but you have to ride it and you are in control of everything. Feels real good.

[@ega6138]

Yeah, ride a Yamaha tdr 125 from 1999 and i really like that im in full control even on a really small bike

[@archagelll]

I actually disagree on 4 out of 7 features mentioned. - Keyless ignition is SUPER convenient - absolutely love it despite it being less secure. - Smartphone connectivity is a nice feature - most importantly to change music tracks from bike UI as well as tracking nice places I have visited - Quick shifters when done right are quite a convenient thing - Combined braking - also feels like a nice thing if you ride relatively calm. And for the track you can disable it. Or maybe it's just BMW S1000XR had all of this features implemented nicely :D

[@DeepKnight-nr6vo]

rolling code on keyless entry is hard to crake especial written in closed source code. common is open. make it close and add additional layer of security

[@DR-pu5hm]

My tiger 1200 has all of these features and they are all really awesome. And the keyless ignition isn't any less secure. People don't realize that most bike manufacturers only have 15-20 key cuts anyway, so your traditional key can access tens of thousands of bikes out there. Also, no idea what YN is talking about with combined braking... It is literally always safe (and often better) to use the rear brake when you use the front brake.

[@fetB]

despite being less secure? lol

[@vanjasimunko708]

I think keyless ignition on a bike js one of the most stupid things. Not that something is inherently wrong with it, but it is part of an experience of riding motorcycles. I have it on a car, and love it there, but car for me is just a mode of transportation. On a bike, I love starting the bike with putting a key and twisting it. Same as shifting gears. Will never accept automatic transmission on a bike, because all of these features are taking away from the experience of being perfectly aware and in connection with your bike

[@DR-pu5hm]

​@@fetB How is it really any less secure? You do realize that most manufacturers only have a handful of key cuts, right? Most decent size dealerships will have multiple bikes with the same key pattern. Physical keys haven't been a security measure for decades. When I was shopping for my last bike the dealership (Ducati/Triumph) gave me the wrong key for the Multistrada I wanted to test. After putting the key in and turning it and failing to start I called the sales person over. They gave me the key to the Multistrada next to me. Two bikes literally next to each other on the floor with the same exact key pattern. The only thing that protected the bike was the wireless fob. Hell- Honda only has around 20 total cuts across all models since 2016. If you have a 2016+ Honda bike- your key will physically fit 1 out of 20 2016+ Honda bikes- all models. Key tumblers take mere minutes to bypass even if you don' have a key. It has always been the fobs that provide protection. Websites sell "quick pick" tools for most bikes (and cars)- or alternatively you can hotwire just about any bike with minimal mechanical knowledge. Full keyless bikes are often more secure because you can turn they fob off completely so it doesn't broadcast signal, preventing sniffing/scraping.

[@cstarr3240]

I really love my keyless ignition. I think that a keyed ignition should always be available as a backup, but with the keyless ignition, I put my keys in my pocket and leave them there, and never have to worry about dropping them, forgetting them, or having them stolen.

[@eman7066]

Convenience is huge 👍🏽

[@CaptainFeathersword]

I hate it and have no interest in it. You can forget your fob the same as you would a key. Trust me, they are easily stolen. It cost me $400 to replace the stolen keyfob for my car.

[@2008guelo]

I also love my key fob, my bike came with an extra key just in case I loose the fob, it works by holding it near the push to start.

[@cstarr3240]

@@CaptainFeathersword To each his own, I guess. That is why I think that keyless ignition is a good thing to have in addition to a key. People like me can use the fob, and people who don't like fobs can just leave theirs at home (or... hell... smash it with a hammer if you'd like) and use the key the old fashion way. I see keyless ignition on a motorcycle the same way I see air conditioning or a radio in a car: it should be there if you want to use it, but using it shouldn't be required in order to use the car.

[@flyinghigh2000]

I love keyless for it's convenience. But I hate the half implementation. You can start but you can't open the fuel cap or seat or some even lock the handle. I have a zontes scooter which everything is keyless. They even makes normal bike with fully keyless feature. But naked or adv bike are not scooter, simple fairing design exposes the mechanism to water. So more problems on normal bikes than scooters for the keyless mechanism.

[@easyfromtnbtw3555]

I love my quickshifter the up and down are both pretty good on the Transalp as long as you’re around 3k or above

[@PhucNe23]

Yamaha R9 dropped, review it Yam

[@burnttoast9890]

I can't find any articles , fake news ?

[@GenericEric03]

​@@burnttoast9890 real. The reveal is October 9th

[@harrychung9822]

Therefore fake. It's going to drop ​@@GenericEric03

[@jonnyboyh2102]

Where does it say reveal on October 9th

[@timme781]

@@jonnyboyh2102 there is a video on the Yamaha Europe Channel. It has a countdown which ends at 9 and marks the 10.09 as the reveal date.

[@_XRMissie]

0:45 I wasn't ready to watch motorcycle gore 😞

[@nathanvanveckhoven1488]

18 wheeler driver here, my truck has adaptive cruise control, and occasionally when I’m passing someone, it will pick up the speed of the car in the lane next to me. Sometimes I’m passing that car, because it’s going 50 in a 70. Adaptive cruise control says “oh shit we’re really close and gotta slow down really fast” imagine that on a motorcycle

[@JakeC-du2vc]

Off ramps, and turn lanes.

[@Domitianvs]

Yeah, if that happens on a bike you're going to have a bad time....

[@Fantaman900]

I just love my semi with the regular collision warning beeps and occasional brake because it sees the signs you drive towards and have to steer away last second to follow the road. Thank god for old motorcycle and cars

[@carlfigpucker6794]

Jokes on CFMoto, I already sold my kidney for a H2!

[@morningsalute03]

I’ll stick to my dumb 07 gsxr 600. Don’t need a computer in my face to just cruise around

[@robertlizarraga9716]

I really want an auto-blip down on my 600. Honestly don't care about quick shifting up, I just want that quick access to 2nd and 3rd on the freeway. Otherwise, I'm happy to have a dumb bike xD

[@Tampa_tom]

06 r1 - sames

[@-0-__-0-]

It's ok if it's just cruising around but for small cc scooters with left and right deliveries for the entire day, it will definitely be useful.

[@merkel2750]

Hold a button = locked How the hell is that harder than turning a key…. Not to mention my bike has an emergency rfid setup that you use if the battery dies or the bike doesn’t recognise the fob, does your bike have a second barrel for when the pins wear down🤔

[@daddystu7046]

but is turning a key so hard that it requires a whole alternative solution?

[@theenzoferrari458]

​@@daddystu7046seems you have comprehension and reading skills. I can tell you didn't pass 5th grade.

[@daddystu7046]

@@theenzoferrari458 Think i'm going to require counselling after that roast fella :) Good job.

[@Mike-q1z9w]

Yeh... That warn down pins thing happens all the time!. I had the same bike for 22yrs. & it happened to me aahhh never. Nor have I ever heard of it happening to anyone else in my 51 years of riding. Also, I've never found it too hard to insert & turn a key. Even at my age!.

[@Jim-nm1en]

When I first started riding bikes, the only rider aids available were a fully switched on rider. Okay, the bikes weren't as powerful or fast as todays bikes but there were a few bikes capable of 120-130 mph and they only had drum brakes which were not very good which meant the rider had to be fully switched on. Fun days.

[@MidEnginedFan]

My 2014 Ducati Diavel Strada is keyless and I effing hate it. The frequency is easily blocked or overpowered by other nearby tech that uses the same frequency, sometimes requiring placing it under the sear at the antenna for it to be "heard". The fob is huge and ubber clunky when unlocking the gas cap. Luckily, a manual code can be entered if the fob is not present, assuming the damn ON button works (50/50 chance of that). Its basic ABS & traction control are nice and saved my bacon a couple of times.

[@hoopscorner6458]

On my HD's just punch in keycode using blinker buttons if forget key fob.

[@pax1980]

Agree on all points but one. Adaptive cruise makes a pretty good safety feature. Yamaha uses it to apply 'brake' assist if it detects you now braking hard enough during an emergency braking situation.

[@dddon513]

I like keyless. Keys stay in the same pocket in my jacket full time. Never worry about where they are. I have two fobs. No problems after 3 years.

[@willclayborn1220]

having a qs is the best thing ever for a motorcycle. i don't know what world your living in my guy

[@manray005]

I have an 23 XSR900 and apparently that is considered to have a very good quick shifter. I absolutely hate it and I am very happy you can turn it off so easily. The clutch and rev matching is a crucial part of the experience for me.

[@joelthemole3020]

When you start talking to cruiser riders and hear their... opinions... on how brakes work and hear from them about why you should ONLY ever use the rear brake, it actually makes a lot of sense that many big bikes had linked brakes where the rear brake pedal also did some amount of front braking, basically just to help save idiots from themselves. I believe there were even quite a few accident statistics to back up that a good percentage of motorcycle accidents happened when a rider ONLY applied the rear brake and plowed into something because they simply didn't use their primary brake. 5th gen Goldwings, VTX1800s, Concours 14, FJR1300, etc. were like this where the front brakes only activates the front brakes, but the rear brakes does some front braking as well. This isn't a bad thing for safety, especially if you are more used to driving a car where panic mode is just slam your right foot on the brake in an emergency and you might not react on the front brake lever as fast. I cant comment on the newer systems where both brakes controls operate both front and rear brakes, as I havent used them yet.

[@Joyride149-1]

Not an expert here. I have only ridden a cruiser a handful of times. I was a sport bike rider but on a TDY I did not have a vehicle, my friend let me use his cruiser, very different breaking techniques. I learned that real fast, almost dumped it when the front tire slid. I have never had a bike with either linked or ABS, I think they would be useful on a cruiser, not sure about the linked brakes for a spot bike though. Going straight, sure, hitting corners at speed while leaning... I guess you would have to get used to it. I would say I would never want linked brakes without ABS.

[@jaiebryce2386]

Combined Braking is mandatory in many countries, including being part of the EURO 4/5/6 standards. I don't know what it like is the US/Canada, but over here (UK) it doesn't apply equal pressure/braking to both wheels irrespective of which brake was activated - it's a graded response, with the activated brake taking most of the control unless heavy braking is required. At very slow speeds, or parking type manoeuvres I haven't ever noticed one brake interfere with the one I am using.

[@doghous3]

yeah, in UK, is required if no ABS fitted. So, often fitted to 125cc (at least older ones) - seemed okay to me. Wouldn't want it on a more powerful bike, though.

[@DR-pu5hm]

​@@doghous3why not? There literally is not a single situation where it would be a bad thing

[@philhawley1219]

The only combined braking I have ever used was on a Guzzi 35 years ago. Triple Brembo discs were fantastic. What a new system is like today I can't imagine as I only ride old stuff!

[@manray005]

I am glad quick shifters made it on the list. I have an 23 XSR900 and apparently that is considered to have a very good quick shifter. I absolutely hate it and I am very happy you can turn it off so easily. The clutch and rev matching is a crucial part of the experience for me.

[@IversonGR]

keyless ignitions are very useful in jobs like food delivery with a scooter.

[@pankurczak5329]

So the motircycle prodycers are trying to adjuce their productd to as much peoples they possibly can at once?

[@fathir14100]

I don't agree with keyless ignition, it wasn't that complex or unreliable. i've been using it for more than 6 years and the only thing you need is keeping your battery in good condition. Surely it was made to protect your bike from get stealed aside of the practicality, i believe if you came from high criminal rates and not really honest law enforcement country you better not to lose your stuff

[@SoCal_RS]

Only issue I have is where do I put it when I go to the track? My suit doesn’t have a pocket

[@aaronashwin3966]

Bikes with keyless ignition usually are pin enabled as well. You don't technically need the key unless you want to remove the seat. ​@@SoCal_RS

[@DR-pu5hm]

​@@SoCal_RS under the seat if you don't need a key to get under there, otherwise a little pouch that ties to your handlebar or frame

[@aaronpettigrew9674]

As a trucker, I've been dealing with adaptive cruise control for 15 years. Even in a truck that's only 2 years old, newer than my motorcycle, it still occasionally gets triggered to brake by shadows and changing pavement colors. There is no way I would consider a bike that has this. My 930 lb Indian Roadmaster doesn't have linked brakes, and I believe it's better without them.

[@DR-pu5hm]

What kind of Truck? Subaru has a patent on camera only ACC. Every other manufacturer in the world uses radar or lidar for ACC distancing which should not have that issue.

[@aaronpettigrew9674]

@DR-pu5hm kenworth, supposedly radar based. But it does occasionally brake over nothing. I've also had them on Freightlinees and one International.

[@TriAngles3D]

As a mechatronics engineer, software developer, metal worker, machinist that has worked at some of the most prestigious high tech companies in the world.... I can not get a new car or bike without cringing at the level of electronic nonsense attached to today's vehicles. But what amazes me most is the people that actually want/buy this. Riding replaced with social media image. More parts, more problems.

[@welfare_baybee]

The tablet babies are growing up. I feel like KIAs whole success is due to lots of shiny buttons and screens. It’s what the modern masses love more than anything.

[@puggysbikestuff7610]

Man, I have the same problem as a motorcycle mechanic. It probably took me a year to find an everyday car that I could still work on myself but wasn't already completely tinkered with or had already been driven around the world... Switzerland is horror for young timers fans, everything that is older than 10 years (and has not established itself as a future classic) is exported to the East...

[@alakhpatel8001]

My dad’s old Royal Enfield had a key less ignition. It has a kick start(which might break your leg in if done improperly)and the key only served to lock the handle bars and to access storage space. Because it has break and gear levers on opposite sides, thieves stay away from it and friends don’t pester u to ride it. Awesome bike.

[@-0-__-0-]

I'm good with keyless entry. The statement "You lose your fob, the bike won't start" will work the other way around. It also makes it safer from lock picking, and makes it hassle free to start the bike. Though I only have a key hole cover which is a lot better than having an open key hole.

[@kandalagagankumar1381]

Papa yam complaining about a 45hp bike having riding modes wait till ge hears a 17hp 160cc indian bike has one too(its unnecessary)

[@user-ox2xi6kk8o]

I will never sell my 05 Yamaha R1. No ABS, no slipper clutch, no traction control, simple key start, analog interface, raw angry beast.

[@johnneal00]

Cool video. 100% a greed. Now do one on what the SHOULD be investing that R&D in that we can get excited about.

[@annon-ski7985]

keyless entry is pretty solid, it has been around for a long time, what next? will you say drum brakes are better?

[@bluefrog8670]

Yammie is finally on his path to KLR owning enlightenment!

[@distancejunkiemonkey4491]

Blindspot detection, your left and right mirrors, both on the motorcycle and a car should be set so they show you your Blindspot. That’s why you have two mirrors on both sides of a vehicle. Then you just need to move your head a little bit to the left or the right to see directly behind you and on the car, you just use the center mirror. and even when you change lanes on a bike, you literally just need to kind of move your shoulders to one side or the other and then you can see a little more of that Blindspot, which remove the necessity to turn all the way and look and take your eyes off the front.

[@kenbrown2808]

and yet again: all moving your mirrors does is move your blind spots. people who think they have some magic mirror strategy that gives them a perfect 360 degree view are more dangerous than the ones who accept that there are places they just can't see.

[@distancejunkiemonkey4491]

@ the Blindspot in the traditional sense is something you can’t see, but would hit if you moved into that space. So by adjusting your mirrors to see that space that’s how you take away of Blindspot. I don’t think anybody’s expecting to see everything right?

[@John_Ridley]

Doodle was renting a HD, left her key fob at a gas station, it was close enough to start the bike and the bike keeps running once started. She got like 120 miles down the road, stopped for gas again, couldn't start it. Luckily she was able to contact the previous gas station and they still had her fob and some nice person gave her a ride to get it back. No keyless for me thanks.

[@PaulKind3d]

i have a gsxs-gt and i love the app connection. It does not do much but give basic phone / map connection and interconnect to your senna... but its pretty good and reliable and unintrusive. Its also optional entirely. It can also be used to diagnose the bike if you like.

[@entropy5125]

AN ECU FLASH WILL HELP THE QUICK SHIFTER WORK AT ALL RPMS ( 2 WHEEL DYNOWORKS)

[@DR-pu5hm]

Depends on the type of quick shifter. There are pure mechanical quick shifters

[@DR-pu5hm]

The only thing I think is bad is adaptive cruise control. everything else is awesome honestly. I dont use smartphone connectivity but I know plenty of people that do. Keyless fobs are no less secure than keys- most manufacturers only have 10-20 pin combos for their bike Combined braking is literally never bad unless you are trying to do burnouts Why even complain about quick shifters? 90% of the time they are so nice to have, the other 10% just dont use it. Blind spot detection is nice to have. You should not rely on it alone- but it can just help just that tiny extra bit. If it saves one rider- it was worth it.

[@SwineBrothers]

I don't understand why most of this has to be in new cars, let alonenew bikes. When they were figuring out how keyless entry worked, I'm very sad that no one turned around and asked...why?

[@EggEnjoyer]

People do ask why but we have no choice as they just keep adding this junk anyway. Useless electronics that break and cost you money

[@briansanchez9899]

That's the point, adding useless stuff and charging you more for it even if you didn't asked for it

[@salvadordollyparton666]

@@briansanchez9899 reminds me of my sister and her 98 cherokee limited... she was so proud of all the buttons, seriously that thing had SOOO many damn buttons. and the infinity gold sound system, that blew speakers like every other month, pretty much every time i drove it and cranked the bass, lol. and then her stupid ass didn't change the oil for 20,000 miles... like every time. and also, jeep wouldn't even replace the coil or distributor cap that kept going bad, because it wasn't covered under the powertrain warranty. i heard them trying to start it, cranking for a LONG time. and i knew it was her car, cause it was a 5.9 ho and the only one there, and you could definitely tell it from a 4.0 cranking or even a 5.2 or whatever a 318 is. and after that, the starter was always really weak...hmm. her never changing the oil obviously didn't help, but it started exactly when i heard them cranking the fuck out of it just trying to brute force start it. they wouldn't let me touch it while in the garage, so made them push it outside and fired it up in 30 seconds with a little wd-40 in the cap. pretty petty to worry about it, but also pretty petty for them to not cover something that is required for it to run,in the powertrain warranty. and that was over 20 years ago... things have not exactly gotten better. why i just said fuck it and drive shit boxes exclusively... that, and i refuse to pay what used to get you a brand new top of the line model for just a decent 20 year old vehicle, as long as it's not the least bit rare or desireable, cause then it's even more. i found SOOO many perfect 5.0 thunderbirds just a few years ago for 500 bucks, or v8 eddie bauer explorers and now they're like 12 grand for like 200k and clear coat peeling, rough interior/exterior. cash for clunkers started all this shit, and adding more bullshit, with computers for computers, body computers... it'll cost you thousands of dollars just for a fucking tail light going out and fucking up the computer... when it used to be just replace the damn bulb and you're good for another 5 years if not more.

[@crash5811]

Makes me appreciate my vintage bikes more and more even tho i daily a '24 zx14r 😂

[@Yoda8945]

I have linked brakes on my BMW K1200rs. Most of the time it is pretty transparent but when braking hard on uneven asphalt, the rear gets light, the ABS kicks in and the rear wheel chatters. The other downside is that I go through rear brake pads at a hellacious rate. It also prevents the hooligan in me from doing burnouts.😇

[@BarnettSpeedSuzukiThou]

Keyless is great and there's an override with a pin. Bike jacking you walk away they can't start it.

[@nathanvanveckhoven1488]

There’s actually things you can buy that copy the radio frequency of keyless entry remotes whenever they’re used. Makes it super easy to steal cars. Easy enough that the last dealership I worked at had 27 brand new Chevy Tahoes stolen that way

[@VegasDave3000]

@@nathanvanveckhoven1488sure, but then they have to be close enough which means they would have to follow you, wait until you park, get close, then do it. Lot more work than just forcing an ignition

[@matheuslcintra]

​@@nathanvanveckhoven1488I mean, you can also lockpick a normal bike even easier then buying a whole ass expensive flipper zero and stalking the rider

[@KondorMoto]

Quickshifters are awesome. The clutch will go the way of the kickstart ✌

[@krazokid19]

Who needs smartphone connectivity? When I ride I throw my phone in my backpack so I can be left alone haha

[@Bybert-9ky]

Triumph has been struggling with their key fobs. I couldn't test drive the Rocket 3 at my local dealership due to the fob not working. Went elsewhere. I bought a spare fob but they couldn't program it. Also, the factory quick shifter I had installed didn't work. I took it back several times without success. Then, during my routine maintenance, they updated the overall software and it works like a dream now. Very smooth up and down.

[@mike_honcho_92]

just an FYI...keyless ignition bikes come with a code that can be entered to access the bike if for some reason the fob isnt recognized or is lost.

[@StreetTwinRider]

My street twin has a rain and road mode… always use road mode even in the wet. It’s comforting to know I have the rain mode if I do fancy an extra level of safety with the throttle being less responsive so you don’t give it the beans and stack it… but never used it.

[@Oilerrocker]

You should do a video on the advantages and disadvantages of linked braking or if you or anyone know of a good video explaining it more in detail please send me a link.

[@plap.]

I can't remember what the bike is but it has a ridiculous feature. It has a wheelie assist on it. Supposedly when you feel like a wheelie you do what you want to pull the front up and the assist holds you at the balance point. Just a bad way, not to know what the bike is doing is no help learning

[@adam346]

Motorcycling is still very niche in North America and adding features that could be mistaken for other things or allow easier theft (as with the keyless fob) are not just farkles but potentially dangerous, the last thing we need is to port over the same issues cars have and just make them far more deadly to us, the rider. This goes doubly so for anything/one that says "mount your phone on your handlebars". Please don't. Check your GPS at a stop, plan your route, if you miss a turn or w/e stop again, check, plan again... eventually you get really good at both planning and navigating!

[@mikein60fps30]

Or get a small magnetic tank bag? pretty much almost all of them have the added clear top pouch so you can see and hear your phone sitting right on your tank. I paid 30$ for mine went with a really small one, or you could go with a larger one if more storage is needed. Also, easy way to ditch the backpack, which yes if fine , but like alot of people think/it gets old dragging a backpack along every ride/ concerning bikes of the sportier kind (obviously, not as much of a issue with cruiser (side bags) type bikes. -Cheers

[@adam346]

@@mikein60fps30 for me it's the distraction factor. I don't need more things on my dash/handle-bars that can distract me... I need to be looking where I am going and what is in front of me... not looking at my cell to see if the GPS says turn right.

[@chris160318]

I have an 06 katana 600 with no abs no rider modes. And I stand by learning on something with less rider aids. I've been riding for 2 years and can comfortably keep up with very experienced riders without having to push my boundaries as I have learned to control my bike in all weather as my first few months ever riding where in the rain as my bike was my only vehicle. My brake control and throttle control gained from that can't be replaced by any electronic aid

[@vernonvaught872]

I still have trouble getting used to cruise control on my Royal Star Venture. It's just weird feeling the throttle move under your hand.

[@fathertorque9497]

I tested the adaptive cruise controll on the BMW R18B and it was AWESOME! Slammed the bike behind a truck at 160km/h and it easily and gently slowed the bike down to 80km/h. It's perfect on the European highways. Especially in Germany.

[@FedeHippo]

Keyless ignition rules! I MacGyver'ed a keyfob onto my '83 XV700. When the key gets within 3 meters of the bike it plays the theme from Top Gun, and all you have to do is jump on hit and push start. And when they keyfob get out of range it plays "If you leave me now" 😀 It always turns SO many heads 😀 And if the power in the keyfob runs out, i can still use the regular key

[@Laid_Out_Luxe2008]

I love my keyless ignition on my Harley. Also no key needed for the gas cap. Also, I can’t imagine leaving any thing on, as you just turn the main ignition off in the dash. Also, if you lose the fob, it has a code on the bike to bypass security.

[@kevinmcgeehan4374]

I bought a used 8 year old GSXR 750 that has a quick shifter on it but no auto blipper (I’ve been riding 8 years before it) and I couldn’t agree more about the quick shifter. I really only use it if I do a little pull.

[@charliecostello2499]

i often do long journeys in my car and i love features like adaptive cruise crontrol, car play and blind spot detection but on the bike i just wanna ride and be left alone haha

[@GAM5T]

I love smart key, quickshifting, and combined braking with abs on both wheels. it makes it much easier to ride manual bikes especially when you want to ride it like a scooter

[@kengaskins1]

I have ACC on my BMW and I find it to be a godsend. I took my R1250RT on a cross country road trip a short while ago and ACC was great while covering the miles on highway 40. When I would come up on one of those old dilapidated Camry's (or whatever car), the bike would start to slow. I would just change lanes and the bike would accelerate and pass that car. You really should use ACC on a long road trip (and by long, I mean more than a 1,000 miles)and see how you like it.

[@brokensmilephoto]

You know, the quick shifter on the 8R isn't bad on the downs once things get broken in a bit more. Seemed like around the 1k mile mark I noticed the quick shifter getting much better on both up and downs. I would suggest during break in, use it a few times on the up, but as you rack up the miles and get some fresh fluids in you'll find it get even better. It's still not perfect on the downs, and it does feel like you really gotta be firm with the down shift.

[@symply_Sym]

the driving school I'm getting my bike license at is using them notoriously overengineered BMWs and MAN am i grateful that keyless ignition is the only thing I have to deal with (which is easy enough thankfully). id be so overwhelmed having to learning all those extra tech additions like people getting car licenses here have to do

[@Javiercav]

Keyless ignition is a very useful and almost necessary system in places where motorcycle theft is a common occurrence. In my personal case, my KTM Duke was stolen 18 months ago, and they have tried to steal my current Svartpilen three times since then, without success thanks to the alarm system I have installed. However, I have had to repair or replace the lock each time, something that could have been avoided if it didn’t have a lock that could be forced to start the motorcycle.

[@halfboltedon9162]

This video is so funny to me when I think that I have a 2022 SV650 without any tech. No AbS, no TC, no rider modes, I’m about to switch the bars and remove the mirrors. 😂 When someone says their motorcycle has all these feature but make less than 70hp, it’s literally the “you got soft hands boy”.

[@bdimon]

Keyless Ignition: I had this on a rental bike that was identical to mine except for Keyless Ignition and Quickshifter. I agree that it offers no value because I still needed the mechanical key to open the BMW panniers. I press it once to turn off the ignition and then press and hold it to lock the forks. Half the time I did not hold it long enough to lock and, instead, the ignition came on again. Using a keyed ignition to turn off and lock was faster. Blind Spot Detection: You're right except I occasionally start to move over before I finish a head check. Totally my fault but traffic changes fast and I am not perfect. Smartphone connectivity: The guy who rear-ended me claimed I slammed on my brakes. I called up the ride data and played it for the cop to prove I was not braking at all! The dude got a ticket. I also like that I can look at my phone to see if the tires need air and how many more miles left in the tank. Quickshifter: On a BMW F900XR, the quickshifter is not smooth. I am smoother doing a clutchless shift with a well-timed throttle blip.

[@emmanuelsmiju5837]

The part where I use the app. The only thing I like is it lets me call someone using the Aprilia's controls and see who calls and ignore them peacefully, etc.

[@noahtheslash]

My bike is a 2011 and the keyless ignition has never failed me once. I love it

[@chadgruver4423]

Blind spot warning on a tour bike, I'll take it, adaptive cruise I can do without. But it's not going to stop me from a purchase.

[@robertlizarraga9716]

I really want auto-blip, it takes about 3-5 business days to get my 600 from 6th gear to 2nd gear to reach meaningful passing power on the freeway. Also wouldn't mind blind spot assist, but that auto-blip, I will continue to dream about.

[@mikein60fps30]

Yeh hear that. Had a FZR600 back in my young days (22years old) the 4 cyl thay can really rev way up there but yeh its a pretty rounded power curve but still truckloads of fun. I'm currently on a tripple, yeh its not so high 10200 max trident660 so yeh its good but way more linear (uh ha, em boring, ha ha as some say). To each his own, just switched from a 2 can cruizer so yep each engine type, really feels way different. Ha now that i think of it , even further back had a 250 XT Yamaha single for a couple years, yet even more odd?/ good, and bad all dif feels. Best of luck, -Cheers

[@robertlizarraga9716]

@@mikein60fps30 thanks! Those middle weight nakeds are looking really good to me right now. Yammie has got me wanted that mt09 really bad now. That will be nice when I can finally afford to have a second bike lol.

[@mikein60fps30]

@@robertlizarraga9716 Yep, the mt09 does sound like a sweet spot, like Yammie says. The naked part takes some time getting used to, wind wise. For myself eh, not to bad with a full face helmet, though i dont spend much time on the fwy. -Best of luck

[@olethorhermansen5696]

Recently I watched a rewiew of a Chinese 125 cc bike on another channel (yes, I do watch other channels too.) The bike had electronic seat release, electronic fuel cap release and electronic steering lock, but it didn't have a centerstand, electronic or otherwise. I wonder which is more useful, a centerstand or a handful of electronic gimmicks?

[@1993russy]

Agreed. I ride a Triumpg Speed Triple RS, comes with keyless ignition, which i am very anxious if i lose or forget my key. Also comes with a mytriumph app and i agree with what you said, it was cool using it for a week, but after the pazzazz wore off, I found myself never really using it 😅

[@jag1970s]

PLEASE can someone tell me what advantage a quick shifter has over the fairly basic skill of clutchless up-shifts?

[@DF-ss5ep]

I've been debating getting the smartphone addon for the RS 660. I'm having trouble finding an adequate mount, and with this I'd be making use of the full features of the bike

[@paulknerr9511]

I have all but 2 of these features on my R1250RT. Didn't think I would like the adaptive, but love it now. Agree these are not needed on small bikes.

[@rosslangerak8361]

I believe it was Kinga from On Her Bike who dropped a key fob while she was riding. The bike did not shut off, but it wouldn't start when she stopped a few miles down the road. Attach a meter of caution tape to your key fob jic. Also, you'll want to get one of those faraday cage sleeves to store your key when you're not on the bike. Thieves can copy the signal from your key fob and use it to start your bike.

[@CBlyat]

My Vitpilen 401 had quick up and down. I always thought it was an odd feature on such a small engine, I don't like slipper clutches anyways. Besides you can quick up on any bike with upward pressure on the gear select and blip the throttle down.

[@TheHIMLegacy]

I have 4 hours of bike school left to get my license, and I‘ll then ride a 1999 suzuki gsx f without ABS. My beliefs are that you learn best the hardest way and jump into cold water. My first runs in the bike driving school were in the rain too.

[@andremigcasol]

I do NOT love the CFMoto app. However, I live the fact that I can always see it's location, and that I get notified whenever someone touches it, whenever it leaves certain areas (chosen by me), the low fuel reminder, etc

[@RahulKumar-up9fb]

Agree with most of it, but I've used blind spot detection and I find it useful. India's traffic is a chaos and people are flying around on bikes, scooters and cars on the road and it sometimes shows me when someone suddenly pops up in my blind spot. But in a flowing traffic like on the highway, it's kinda pointless.

[@shubhpatel50]

I have a 310gs of course without quickshifter opening a path to learn rev matching, manual quick blip , clutchless up shift , taking me to a next consideration that a person dosent need a shifter

[@addy2597]

I want keyless cuz in India cops go straight for our bike’s key

[@charlescarmichael1124]

That's why I want it.

[@buttersalad117]

hear me out, I think keyless ignition is a great feature as long as you have an override system that uses an actual physical key in case of emergency. wouldn't that be something? right?

[@InfidelRage]

Lol i cant even get the rideology app to work with my 2024 Kawasaki Ninja 500 SE 40th. It just says there are no motorcycles nearby, oh well. I do wish i could have gotten a regular key ignition instead of keyless with the 40th paint job.

[@MaybeFactor]

No mention of Royal Enfield's Tripper nav when talking about smartphone connectivity? It's possibly the only one that's actually useful, at least until you get a smartphone mount on your handlebars. It's useful enough, I may never bother getting a smartphone mount.

[@davidmiddleton9342]

I disabled the quick shifter on my Transalp. If I wasn’t in the optimum rpm range that the ECM wanted to see, it would refuse to shift.

[@DF-ss5ep]

After a while you start to get a feel for when it will work

[@tristanloveday5240]

Just bought a Triumph T120 not realising I need the dealer tool to do something as simple as bleed the brakes properly. Looking at a Carbied RE Himalayan, no computers - no problems.

[@wokeydokey6885]

The only helpful thing that smartphone connectivity can bring is to display navigation, but most of these systems, across brands fail miserably to even do that, and most of them that provide navigation only provide turn by turn navigation (like only shows arrows and distance to turn, instead of a map like in phones). Why put a massive colourful screen in front if it can't show me a map?

[@Ironhorse360DEG]

certain harley models are keyless, and have been for years. no fob, no key, just turn it on, fire it up, and ride off. my 87 shadow used a key, left side, under your leg, near the battery. the problem with a key setup like that is. i've seen guys with a large or huge key chain, full of keys, have the key break off in the ignition switch. if you ride, put your house keys in your pocket, keep your motorcycle key single, and lonesome. i always keep a spare key hidden on the bike some where.

[@MrRodwatson]

My thoughts on the Blind Spot Detection…I currently ride a 2017 Africa Twin. So no BSD on mine, and honestly, my bikes set up for more off highway riding, so BSD is even less important. That said, I'm also 51 years old, and I'll tell you this, my neck is in a perpetual state of minor, nagging pain. Looking hard to the left or right, causes an annoying pain and I am in fact somewhat limited in doing so. I can now say, that although I would not actively search out a bike with this feature……like the DCT option from Honda, I can see how this feature would enable a rider to enjoy the hobby longer and even keep riders riding longer. Getting old sucks, but it does get easier to admit we didn't actually know everything like we thought we did when we were young guns🤔.

[@devincryer4839]

i like my keyless ignition lol, never had any issues with it also my bike has a pin system so i don’t need my fob to start it if i lose it

[@pequaboy1210]

Loved my keyless fob on my 2020 speed triple.

[@krisi192995]

Servicing the carbs, changing to LEDs, bar end mirrors, and re painting my (now green) 🙄 FJ 1100 as the winter is already here. I'mma SEND IT next season. Learning to ride on a big heavy old 84' CLUNKER of a unit comes weirdly natural to me. And I'm 28, I've never ridden anything else than a big ATV (quad) before.

[@farhanrahmaddani3218]

what's weird is Honda's combine brake is on the rear brake not front , so just forget about stabilizing your bike at slow speed using rear brake, because the front will dive no mater what

[@brianroldan7256]

Here in asia, yamaha has this scooter that has an app called Y connect that can actually break your ecm or set yiur bike in fire

[@pg.travels]

Whats the advantage of keyless ignition actually supposed to be? I know the drawbacks but genuinely can't figure out the advantages?

[@SansSentiments]

I got: 1. nobodys just bikejack you at an intersection. My keyless key is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo far in my jacket, even if I wanted to, you are not getting it fast. 2. you cannot overpower/fiddle the ignition bit to make it run, you have to hack the electronics proper

[@SahnigReingeloetet]

It makes sense if your keys have more than one job. In cars they open it up and start it, so it makes sense there. On scooters it also makes sense, they open up the underseat storage and start it, not needing to fondle around is a big benefit. On motorcycles they do ONE thing: start the ignition. So no, on motorcycles they don‘t make sense.

[@jimmymitchell209]

On a 2018 or newer Gold-wing it also locks your bags. But you still have to remember to turn the ignition off or you return to the bike with a dead battery.

[@airglide2]

It helps those who have a bad habit of leaving their keys in the ignition, for one. Also helps on bikes like my Moto Guzzi, where the oil pump takes a bit to lubricate the engine upon startup. So my bike can warm up before I finish putting on my suit of armor.

[@orangesnipzy]

@@SansSentimentsmost people just use boosters

[@nulla9601]

My 50hp bike has good old fashion launch control. Red line, control the clutch and launch with a small wheelie

[@arealious25]

I hate the keyless entry. I have one on my honda and many times it doesn't work.

[@letsg4353]

Keyless is the best feature for delivery riders. They'll never gonna have problem again from forgetting their keys every time they deliver. Here in ph as a delivery rider you have to deliver 200 parcels in different houses. So you have to go on and off at all times.

[@davesoverthere]

I agree with everything on your list except the first one. I was just thinking yesterday about how I'd like to convert my bike to a keyless ignition. It's mostly just due to all the videos I've seen of cops pulling keys out of ignition switches during traffic stops.

[@Theminebros122]

i never understood quick shifters, i just roll off throttle and shift up, no clutch needed

[@sassas4557]

combined braking is ass for me, it made me slip multiple times on gravel just because while using the rear brake the front wheel locked completely making me loose control