Top 7 Most Overhyped Motorcycle Features

[@k3y155]

All these rider aids on small-displacement bikes when all we want is ABS and cruise control on our middleweight bikes.

[@matchu13]

it would also be nice if they added an option that comes with 0 rider aids.

[@k3y155]

@@matchu13 that would be nice, too. More options in general, I suppose

[@user-ox2xi6kk8o]

My phone is on silent and tucked away when I ride. I don't use GPS when riding. Plan the route before I go.

[@Motovation.785]

@@matchu13or just make abs standard with the option to easily turn it off

[@michaelf.2449]

@@Motovation.785abs traction control that’s all I’d ask for and have both easily disabled in the menu

[@MaddCasper]

I’ll take keyless entry. My R1 was removed from my presence because a dude was able to dig in the starter and fire it up. Had a BMW keyless and loved it

[@EggEnjoyer]

Keyless cars are also known for being strong via the fraudulent key signals. You think that won’t happen to one of these bikes?

[@Jash_F]

@@EggEnjoyer indeed a simple man sitting inside a van next to your bike, to hijack the signal. rip

[@VegasDave3000]

@@Jash_Fthat implies they know where you’ll stop. That means opportunistic thieves are deterred. That’s a net gain to me.

[@mikedominick]

Us track riders do ignition deletes a lot. It sucks when you get all the way to track… but forgot your key! We also use keyless gas caps too.

[@rizen3467]

Well, theres also systems like the honda H.I.S.S. , which pretty much is a combination between a normal key and RFID protection so you cant wire start the bike.

[@pg.travels]

I test drove a Ducati Diavel... Drove home (2 hours away) and got a message from the owner saying "You've got my keys".... It was keyless ignition and i forgot to give the key back lol

[@aidencoder]

Wouldn't the same thing happen if you took their non-keyless key too? Either way, you took their key. It being keyless isn't important.

[@aidencoder]

Nevermind. I am dumb. I suppose it is harder to forget you have someone's key in your pocket if it doesn't live in your pocket.

[@pg.travels]

@@aidencoder It would usually be in the bike when I got back. It was just in my pocket the whole time.... It was a long day by the time I returned it...

[@archagelll]

I actually disagree on 4 out of 7 features mentioned. - Keyless ignition is SUPER convenient - absolutely love it despite it being less secure. - Smartphone connectivity is a nice feature - most importantly to change music tracks from bike UI as well as tracking nice places I have visited - Quick shifters when done right are quite a convenient thing - Combined braking - also feels like a nice thing if you ride relatively calm. And for the track you can disable it. Or maybe it's just BMW S1000XR had all of this features implemented nicely :D

[@DeepKnight-nr6vo]

rolling code on keyless entry is hard to crake especial written in closed source code. common is open. make it close and add additional layer of security

[@DR-pu5hm]

My tiger 1200 has all of these features and they are all really awesome. And the keyless ignition isn't any less secure. People don't realize that most bike manufacturers only have 15-20 key cuts anyway, so your traditional key can access tens of thousands of bikes out there. Also, no idea what YN is talking about with combined braking... It is literally always safe (and often better) to use the rear brake when you use the front brake.

[@fetB]

despite being less secure? lol

[@nathanvanveckhoven1488]

18 wheeler driver here, my truck has adaptive cruise control, and occasionally when I’m passing someone, it will pick up the speed of the car in the lane next to me. Sometimes I’m passing that car, because it’s going 50 in a 70. Adaptive cruise control says “oh shit we’re really close and gotta slow down really fast” imagine that on a motorcycle

[@JakeC-du2vc]

Off ramps, and turn lanes.

[@Domitianvs]

Yeah, if that happens on a bike you're going to have a bad time....

[@Fantaman900]

I just love my semi with the regular collision warning beeps and occasional brake because it sees the signs you drive towards and have to steer away last second to follow the road. Thank god for old motorcycle and cars

[@cedricparkinson3635]

My '21 Ninja 650 has nothing , no rider aids no ABS, nothing, and it is very enjoyable to ride but you have to ride it and you are in control of everything. Feels real good.

[@easyfromtnbtw3555]

I love my quickshifter the up and down are both pretty good on the Transalp as long as you’re around 3k or above

[@Gimpthulhu]

Speaking of quicker shifters, when did riders stop learning to do clutchless upshifts? It's strange that something so easy to do seems to have become a lost skill.

[@IversonGR]

keyless ignitions are very useful in jobs like food delivery with a scooter.

[@PhucNe23]

Yamaha R9 dropped, review it Yam

[@burnttoast9890]

I can't find any articles , fake news ?

[@GenericExotics]

​@@burnttoast9890 real. The reveal is October 9th

[@harrychung9822]

Therefore fake. It's going to drop ​@@GenericExotics

[@jonnyboyh2102]

Where does it say reveal on October 9th

[@timme781]

@@jonnyboyh2102 there is a video on the Yamaha Europe Channel. It has a countdown which ends at 9 and marks the 10.09 as the reveal date.

[@cstarr3240]

I really love my keyless ignition. I think that a keyed ignition should always be available as a backup, but with the keyless ignition, I put my keys in my pocket and leave them there, and never have to worry about dropping them, forgetting them, or having them stolen.

[@eman7066]

Convenience is huge 👍🏽

[@CaptainFeathersword]

I hate it and have no interest in it. You can forget your fob the same as you would a key. Trust me, they are easily stolen. It cost me $400 to replace the stolen keyfob for my car.

[@2008guelo]

I also love my key fob, my bike came with an extra key just in case I loose the fob, it works by holding it near the push to start.

[@cstarr3240]

@@CaptainFeathersword To each his own, I guess. That is why I think that keyless ignition is a good thing to have in addition to a key. People like me can use the fob, and people who don't like fobs can just leave theirs at home (or... hell... smash it with a hammer if you'd like) and use the key the old fashion way. I see keyless ignition on a motorcycle the same way I see air conditioning or a radio in a car: it should be there if you want to use it, but using it shouldn't be required in order to use the car.

[@flyinghigh2000]

I love keyless for it's convenience. But I hate the half implementation. You can start but you can't open the fuel cap or seat or some even lock the handle. I have a zontes scooter which everything is keyless. They even makes normal bike with fully keyless feature. But naked or adv bike are not scooter, simple fairing design exposes the mechanism to water. So more problems on normal bikes than scooters for the keyless mechanism.

[@Jim-nm1en]

When I first started riding bikes, the only rider aids available were a fully switched on rider. Okay, the bikes weren't as powerful or fast as todays bikes but there were a few bikes capable of 120-130 mph and they only had drum brakes which were not very good which meant the rider had to be fully switched on. Fun days.

[@morningsalute03]

I’ll stick to my dumb 07 gsxr 600. Don’t need a computer in my face to just cruise around

[@robertlizarraga9716]

I really want an auto-blip down on my 600. Honestly don't care about quick shifting up, I just want that quick access to 2nd and 3rd on the freeway. Otherwise, I'm happy to have a dumb bike xD

[@Tampa_tom]

06 r1 - sames

[@-0-__-0-]

It's ok if it's just cruising around but for small cc scooters with left and right deliveries for the entire day, it will definitely be useful.

[@MidEnginedFan]

My 2014 Ducati Diavel Strada is keyless and I effing hate it. The frequency is easily blocked or overpowered by other nearby tech that uses the same frequency, sometimes requiring placing it under the sear at the antenna for it to be "heard". The fob is huge and ubber clunky when unlocking the gas cap. Luckily, a manual code can be entered if the fob is not present, assuming the damn ON button works (50/50 chance of that). Its basic ABS & traction control are nice and saved my bacon a couple of times.

[@carlfigpucker6794]

Jokes on CFMoto, I already sold my kidney for a H2!

[@joelthemole3020]

When you start talking to cruiser riders and hear their... opinions... on how brakes work and hear from them about why you should ONLY ever use the rear brake, it actually makes a lot of sense that many big bikes had linked brakes where the rear brake pedal also did some amount of front braking, basically just to help save idiots from themselves. I believe there were even quite a few accident statistics to back up that a good percentage of motorcycle accidents happened when a rider ONLY applied the rear brake and plowed into something because they simply didn't use their primary brake. 5th gen Goldwings, VTX1800s, Concours 14, FJR1300, etc. were like this where the front brakes only activates the front brakes, but the rear brakes does some front braking as well. This isn't a bad thing for safety, especially if you are more used to driving a car where panic mode is just slam your right foot on the brake in an emergency and you might not react on the front brake lever as fast. I cant comment on the newer systems where both brakes controls operate both front and rear brakes, as I havent used them yet.

[@Joyride149-1]

Not an expert here. I have only ridden a cruiser a handful of times. I was a sport bike rider but on a TDY I did not have a vehicle, my friend let me use his cruiser, very different breaking techniques. I learned that real fast, almost dumped it when the front tire slid. I have never had a bike with either linked or ABS, I think they would be useful on a cruiser, not sure about the linked brakes for a spot bike though. Going straight, sure, hitting corners at speed while leaning... I guess you would have to get used to it. I would say I would never want linked brakes without ABS.

[@manray005]

I am glad quick shifters made it on the list. I have an 23 XSR900 and apparently that is considered to have a very good quick shifter. I absolutely hate it and I am very happy you can turn it off so easily. The clutch and rev matching is a crucial part of the experience for me.

[@pax1980]

Agree on all points but one. Adaptive cruise makes a pretty good safety feature. Yamaha uses it to apply 'brake' assist if it detects you now braking hard enough during an emergency braking situation.

[@krazokid19]

Who needs smartphone connectivity? When I ride I throw my phone in my backpack so I can be left alone haha

[@alakhpatel8001]

My dad’s old Royal Enfield had a key less ignition. It has a kick start(which might break your leg in if done improperly)and the key only served to lock the handle bars and to access storage space. Because it has break and gear levers on opposite sides, thieves stay away from it and friends don’t pester u to ride it. Awesome bike.

[@hoopscorner6458]

On my HD's just punch in keycode using blinker buttons if forget key fob.

[@aaronpettigrew9674]

As a trucker, I've been dealing with adaptive cruise control for 15 years. Even in a truck that's only 2 years old, newer than my motorcycle, it still occasionally gets triggered to brake by shadows and changing pavement colors. There is no way I would consider a bike that has this. My 930 lb Indian Roadmaster doesn't have linked brakes, and I believe it's better without them.

[@DR-pu5hm]

What kind of Truck? Subaru has a patent on camera only ACC. Every other manufacturer in the world uses radar or lidar for ACC distancing which should not have that issue.

[@aaronpettigrew9674]

@DR-pu5hm kenworth, supposedly radar based. But it does occasionally brake over nothing. I've also had them on Freightlinees and one International.

[@TriAngles3D]

As a mechatronics engineer, software developer, metal worker, machinist that has worked at some of the most prestigious high tech companies in the world.... I can not get a new car or bike without cringing at the level of electronic nonsense attached to today's vehicles. But what amazes me most is the people that actually want/buy this. Riding replaced with social media image. More parts, more problems.

[@welfare_baybee]

The tablet babies are growing up. I feel like KIAs whole success is due to lots of shiny buttons and screens. It’s what the modern masses love more than anything.

[@puggysbikestuff7610]

Man, I have the same problem as a motorcycle mechanic. It probably took me a year to find an everyday car that I could still work on myself but wasn't already completely tinkered with or had already been driven around the world... Switzerland is horror for young timers fans, everything that is older than 10 years (and has not established itself as a future classic) is exported to the East...

[@jaiebryce2386]

Combined Braking is mandatory in many countries, including being part of the EURO 4/5/6 standards. I don't know what it like is the US/Canada, but over here (UK) it doesn't apply equal pressure/braking to both wheels irrespective of which brake was activated - it's a graded response, with the activated brake taking most of the control unless heavy braking is required. At very slow speeds, or parking type manoeuvres I haven't ever noticed one brake interfere with the one I am using.

[@doghous3]

yeah, in UK, is required if no ABS fitted. So, often fitted to 125cc (at least older ones) - seemed okay to me. Wouldn't want it on a more powerful bike, though.

[@DR-pu5hm]

​@@doghous3why not? There literally is not a single situation where it would be a bad thing

[@philhawley1219]

The only combined braking I have ever used was on a Guzzi 35 years ago. Triple Brembo discs were fantastic. What a new system is like today I can't imagine as I only ride old stuff!

[@FedeHippo]

Keyless ignition rules! I MacGyver'ed a keyfob onto my '83 XV700. When the key gets within 3 meters of the bike it plays the theme from Top Gun, and all you have to do is jump on hit and push start. And when they keyfob get out of range it plays "If you leave me now" 😀 It always turns SO many heads 😀 And if the power in the keyfob runs out, i can still use the regular key

[@-0-__-0-]

I'm good with keyless entry. The statement "You lose your fob, the bike won't start" will work the other way around. It also makes it safer from lock picking, and makes it hassle free to start the bike. Though I only have a key hole cover which is a lot better than having an open key hole.

[@bluefrog8670]

Yammie is finally on his path to KLR owning enlightenment!

[@user-ox2xi6kk8o]

I will never sell my 05 Yamaha R1. No ABS, no slipper clutch, no traction control, simple key start, analog interface, raw angry beast.

[@willclayborn1220]

having a qs is the best thing ever for a motorcycle. i don't know what world your living in my guy

[@manray005]

I have an 23 XSR900 and apparently that is considered to have a very good quick shifter. I absolutely hate it and I am very happy you can turn it off so easily. The clutch and rev matching is a crucial part of the experience for me.

[@merkel2750]

Hold a button = locked How the hell is that harder than turning a key…. Not to mention my bike has an emergency rfid setup that you use if the battery dies or the bike doesn’t recognise the fob, does your bike have a second barrel for when the pins wear down🤔

[@daddystu7046]

but is turning a key so hard that it requires a whole alternative solution?

[@theenzoferrari458]

​@@daddystu7046seems you have comprehension and reading skills. I can tell you didn't pass 5th grade.

[@daddystu7046]

@@theenzoferrari458 Think i'm going to require counselling after that roast fella :) Good job.

[@Mike-q1z9w]

Yeh... That warn down pins thing happens all the time!. I had the same bike for 22yrs. & it happened to me aahhh never. Nor have I ever heard of it happening to anyone else in my 51 years of riding. Also, I've never found it too hard to insert & turn a key. Even at my age!.

[@johnneal00]

Cool video. 100% a greed. Now do one on what the SHOULD be investing that R&D in that we can get excited about.

[@distancejunkiemonkey4491]

Blindspot detection, your left and right mirrors, both on the motorcycle and a car should be set so they show you your Blindspot. That’s why you have two mirrors on both sides of a vehicle. Then you just need to move your head a little bit to the left or the right to see directly behind you and on the car, you just use the center mirror. and even when you change lanes on a bike, you literally just need to kind of move your shoulders to one side or the other and then you can see a little more of that Blindspot, which remove the necessity to turn all the way and look and take your eyes off the front.

[@kenbrown2808]

and yet again: all moving your mirrors does is move your blind spots. people who think they have some magic mirror strategy that gives them a perfect 360 degree view are more dangerous than the ones who accept that there are places they just can't see.

[@distancejunkiemonkey4491]

@ the Blindspot in the traditional sense is something you can’t see, but would hit if you moved into that space. So by adjusting your mirrors to see that space that’s how you take away of Blindspot. I don’t think anybody’s expecting to see everything right?

[@KondorMoto]

Quickshifters are awesome. The clutch will go the way of the kickstart ✌

[@kandalagagankumar1381]

Papa yam complaining about a 45hp bike having riding modes wait till ge hears a 17hp 160cc indian bike has one too(its unnecessary)

[@damacknificent151]

I started a kawasaki just with my toyota camry key fob 😂 One key works for all, genius 👏

[@adam346]

Motorcycling is still very niche in North America and adding features that could be mistaken for other things or allow easier theft (as with the keyless fob) are not just farkles but potentially dangerous, the last thing we need is to port over the same issues cars have and just make them far more deadly to us, the rider. This goes doubly so for anything/one that says "mount your phone on your handlebars". Please don't. Check your GPS at a stop, plan your route, if you miss a turn or w/e stop again, check, plan again... eventually you get really good at both planning and navigating!

[@mikein60fps30]

Or get a small magnetic tank bag? pretty much almost all of them have the added clear top pouch so you can see and hear your phone sitting right on your tank. I paid 30$ for mine went with a really small one, or you could go with a larger one if more storage is needed. Also, easy way to ditch the backpack, which yes if fine , but like alot of people think/it gets old dragging a backpack along every ride/ concerning bikes of the sportier kind (obviously, not as much of a issue with cruiser (side bags) type bikes. -Cheers

[@adam346]

@@mikein60fps30 for me it's the distraction factor. I don't need more things on my dash/handle-bars that can distract me... I need to be looking where I am going and what is in front of me... not looking at my cell to see if the GPS says turn right.

[@bdimon]

Keyless Ignition: I had this on a rental bike that was identical to mine except for Keyless Ignition and Quickshifter. I agree that it offers no value because I still needed the mechanical key to open the BMW panniers. I press it once to turn off the ignition and then press and hold it to lock the forks. Half the time I did not hold it long enough to lock and, instead, the ignition came on again. Using a keyed ignition to turn off and lock was faster. Blind Spot Detection: You're right except I occasionally start to move over before I finish a head check. Totally my fault but traffic changes fast and I am not perfect. Smartphone connectivity: The guy who rear-ended me claimed I slammed on my brakes. I called up the ride data and played it for the cop to prove I was not braking at all! The dude got a ticket. I also like that I can look at my phone to see if the tires need air and how many more miles left in the tank. Quickshifter: On a BMW F900XR, the quickshifter is not smooth. I am smoother doing a clutchless shift with a well-timed throttle blip.

[@John_Ridley]

Doodle was renting a HD, left her key fob at a gas station, it was close enough to start the bike and the bike keeps running once started. She got like 120 miles down the road, stopped for gas again, couldn't start it. Luckily she was able to contact the previous gas station and they still had her fob and some nice person gave her a ride to get it back. No keyless for me thanks.

[@dddon513]

I like keyless. Keys stay in the same pocket in my jacket full time. Never worry about where they are. I have two fobs. No problems after 3 years.

[@Laid_Out_Luxe2008]

I love my keyless ignition on my Harley. Also no key needed for the gas cap. Also, I can’t imagine leaving any thing on, as you just turn the main ignition off in the dash. Also, if you lose the fob, it has a code on the bike to bypass security.

[@Yoda8945]

I have linked brakes on my BMW K1200rs. Most of the time it is pretty transparent but when braking hard on uneven asphalt, the rear gets light, the ABS kicks in and the rear wheel chatters. The other downside is that I go through rear brake pads at a hellacious rate. It also prevents the hooligan in me from doing burnouts.😇

[@fathertorque9497]

I tested the adaptive cruise controll on the BMW R18B and it was AWESOME! Slammed the bike behind a truck at 160km/h and it easily and gently slowed the bike down to 80km/h. It's perfect on the European highways. Especially in Germany.

[@krisi192995]

Servicing the carbs, changing to LEDs, bar end mirrors, and re painting my (now green) 🙄 FJ 1100 as the winter is already here. I'mma SEND IT next season. Learning to ride on a big heavy old 84' CLUNKER of a unit comes weirdly natural to me. And I'm 28, I've never ridden anything else than a big ATV (quad) before.

[@Bybert-9ky]

Triumph has been struggling with their key fobs. I couldn't test drive the Rocket 3 at my local dealership due to the fob not working. Went elsewhere. I bought a spare fob but they couldn't program it. Also, the factory quick shifter I had installed didn't work. I took it back several times without success. Then, during my routine maintenance, they updated the overall software and it works like a dream now. Very smooth up and down.

[@StreetTwinRider]

My street twin has a rain and road mode… always use road mode even in the wet. It’s comforting to know I have the rain mode if I do fancy an extra level of safety with the throttle being less responsive so you don’t give it the beans and stack it… but never used it.

[@halfboltedon9162]

This video is so funny to me when I think that I have a 2022 SV650 without any tech. No AbS, no TC, no rider modes, I’m about to switch the bars and remove the mirrors. 😂 When someone says their motorcycle has all these feature but make less than 70hp, it’s literally the “you got soft hands boy”.

[@chadgruver4423]

Blind spot warning on a tour bike, I'll take it, adaptive cruise I can do without. But it's not going to stop me from a purchase.

[@entropy5125]

AN ECU FLASH WILL HELP THE QUICK SHIFTER WORK AT ALL RPMS ( 2 WHEEL DYNOWORKS)

[@DR-pu5hm]

Depends on the type of quick shifter. There are pure mechanical quick shifters

[@GAM5T]

I love smart key, quickshifting, and combined braking with abs on both wheels. it makes it much easier to ride manual bikes especially when you want to ride it like a scooter

[@rosslangerak8361]

I believe it was Kinga from On Her Bike who dropped a key fob while she was riding. The bike did not shut off, but it wouldn't start when she stopped a few miles down the road. Attach a meter of caution tape to your key fob jic. Also, you'll want to get one of those faraday cage sleeves to store your key when you're not on the bike. Thieves can copy the signal from your key fob and use it to start your bike.

[@noahtheslash]

My bike is a 2011 and the keyless ignition has never failed me once. I love it

[@BarnettSpeedSuzukiThou]

Keyless is great and there's an override with a pin. Bike jacking you walk away they can't start it.

[@nathanvanveckhoven1488]

There’s actually things you can buy that copy the radio frequency of keyless entry remotes whenever they’re used. Makes it super easy to steal cars. Easy enough that the last dealership I worked at had 27 brand new Chevy Tahoes stolen that way

[@VegasDave3000]

@@nathanvanveckhoven1488sure, but then they have to be close enough which means they would have to follow you, wait until you park, get close, then do it. Lot more work than just forcing an ignition

[@matheuslcintra]

​@@nathanvanveckhoven1488I mean, you can also lockpick a normal bike even easier then buying a whole ass expensive flipper zero and stalking the rider

[@chris160318]

I have an 06 katana 600 with no abs no rider modes. And I stand by learning on something with less rider aids. I've been riding for 2 years and can comfortably keep up with very experienced riders without having to push my boundaries as I have learned to control my bike in all weather as my first few months ever riding where in the rain as my bike was my only vehicle. My brake control and throttle control gained from that can't be replaced by any electronic aid

[@Javiercav]

Keyless ignition is a very useful and almost necessary system in places where motorcycle theft is a common occurrence. In my personal case, my KTM Duke was stolen 18 months ago, and they have tried to steal my current Svartpilen three times since then, without success thanks to the alarm system I have installed. However, I have had to repair or replace the lock each time, something that could have been avoided if it didn’t have a lock that could be forced to start the motorcycle.

[@MrRodwatson]

My thoughts on the Blind Spot Detection…I currently ride a 2017 Africa Twin. So no BSD on mine, and honestly, my bikes set up for more off highway riding, so BSD is even less important. That said, I'm also 51 years old, and I'll tell you this, my neck is in a perpetual state of minor, nagging pain. Looking hard to the left or right, causes an annoying pain and I am in fact somewhat limited in doing so. I can now say, that although I would not actively search out a bike with this feature……like the DCT option from Honda, I can see how this feature would enable a rider to enjoy the hobby longer and even keep riders riding longer. Getting old sucks, but it does get easier to admit we didn't actually know everything like we thought we did when we were young guns🤔.

[@PaulKind3d]

i have a gsxs-gt and i love the app connection. It does not do much but give basic phone / map connection and interconnect to your senna... but its pretty good and reliable and unintrusive. Its also optional entirely. It can also be used to diagnose the bike if you like.

[@SwineBrothers]

I don't understand why most of this has to be in new cars, let alonenew bikes. When they were figuring out how keyless entry worked, I'm very sad that no one turned around and asked...why?

[@EggEnjoyer]

People do ask why but we have no choice as they just keep adding this junk anyway. Useless electronics that break and cost you money

[@briansanchez9899]

That's the point, adding useless stuff and charging you more for it even if you didn't asked for it

[@salvadordollyparton666]

@@briansanchez9899 reminds me of my sister and her 98 cherokee limited... she was so proud of all the buttons, seriously that thing had SOOO many damn buttons. and the infinity gold sound system, that blew speakers like every other month, pretty much every time i drove it and cranked the bass, lol. and then her stupid ass didn't change the oil for 20,000 miles... like every time. and also, jeep wouldn't even replace the coil or distributor cap that kept going bad, because it wasn't covered under the powertrain warranty. i heard them trying to start it, cranking for a LONG time. and i knew it was her car, cause it was a 5.9 ho and the only one there, and you could definitely tell it from a 4.0 cranking or even a 5.2 or whatever a 318 is. and after that, the starter was always really weak...hmm. her never changing the oil obviously didn't help, but it started exactly when i heard them cranking the fuck out of it just trying to brute force start it. they wouldn't let me touch it while in the garage, so made them push it outside and fired it up in 30 seconds with a little wd-40 in the cap. pretty petty to worry about it, but also pretty petty for them to not cover something that is required for it to run,in the powertrain warranty. and that was over 20 years ago... things have not exactly gotten better. why i just said fuck it and drive shit boxes exclusively... that, and i refuse to pay what used to get you a brand new top of the line model for just a decent 20 year old vehicle, as long as it's not the least bit rare or desireable, cause then it's even more. i found SOOO many perfect 5.0 thunderbirds just a few years ago for 500 bucks, or v8 eddie bauer explorers and now they're like 12 grand for like 200k and clear coat peeling, rough interior/exterior. cash for clunkers started all this shit, and adding more bullshit, with computers for computers, body computers... it'll cost you thousands of dollars just for a fucking tail light going out and fucking up the computer... when it used to be just replace the damn bulb and you're good for another 5 years if not more.

[@crash5811]

Makes me appreciate my vintage bikes more and more even tho i daily a '24 zx14r 😂

[@tristanloveday5240]

Just bought a Triumph T120 not realising I need the dealer tool to do something as simple as bleed the brakes properly. Looking at a Carbied RE Himalayan, no computers - no problems.

[@TheHIMLegacy]

I have 4 hours of bike school left to get my license, and I‘ll then ride a 1999 suzuki gsx f without ABS. My beliefs are that you learn best the hardest way and jump into cold water. My first runs in the bike driving school were in the rain too.

[@annon-ski7985]

keyless entry is pretty solid, it has been around for a long time, what next? will you say drum brakes are better?

[@robertlizarraga9716]

I really want auto-blip, it takes about 3-5 business days to get my 600 from 6th gear to 2nd gear to reach meaningful passing power on the freeway. Also wouldn't mind blind spot assist, but that auto-blip, I will continue to dream about.

[@mikein60fps30]

Yeh hear that. Had a FZR600 back in my young days (22years old) the 4 cyl thay can really rev way up there but yeh its a pretty rounded power curve but still truckloads of fun. I'm currently on a tripple, yeh its not so high 10200 max trident660 so yeh its good but way more linear (uh ha, em boring, ha ha as some say). To each his own, just switched from a 2 can cruizer so yep each engine type, really feels way different. Ha now that i think of it , even further back had a 250 XT Yamaha single for a couple years, yet even more odd?/ good, and bad all dif feels. Best of luck, -Cheers

[@robertlizarraga9716]

@@mikein60fps30 thanks! Those middle weight nakeds are looking really good to me right now. Yammie has got me wanted that mt09 really bad now. That will be nice when I can finally afford to have a second bike lol.

[@mikein60fps30]

@@robertlizarraga9716 Yep, the mt09 does sound like a sweet spot, like Yammie says. The naked part takes some time getting used to, wind wise. For myself eh, not to bad with a full face helmet, though i dont spend much time on the fwy. -Best of luck

[@paulknerr9511]

I have all but 2 of these features on my R1250RT. Didn't think I would like the adaptive, but love it now. Agree these are not needed on small bikes.

[@kevinmcgeehan4374]

I bought a used 8 year old GSXR 750 that has a quick shifter on it but no auto blipper (I’ve been riding 8 years before it) and I couldn’t agree more about the quick shifter. I really only use it if I do a little pull.

[@davesoverthere]

I agree with everything on your list except the first one. I was just thinking yesterday about how I'd like to convert my bike to a keyless ignition. It's mostly just due to all the videos I've seen of cops pulling keys out of ignition switches during traffic stops.

[@1993russy]

Agreed. I ride a Triumpg Speed Triple RS, comes with keyless ignition, which i am very anxious if i lose or forget my key. Also comes with a mytriumph app and i agree with what you said, it was cool using it for a week, but after the pazzazz wore off, I found myself never really using it 😅

[@symply_Sym]

the driving school I'm getting my bike license at is using them notoriously overengineered BMWs and MAN am i grateful that keyless ignition is the only thing I have to deal with (which is easy enough thankfully). id be so overwhelmed having to learning all those extra tech additions like people getting car licenses here have to do

[@andremigcasol]

I do NOT love the CFMoto app. However, I live the fact that I can always see it's location, and that I get notified whenever someone touches it, whenever it leaves certain areas (chosen by me), the low fuel reminder, etc

[@daruthin]

1- Amen 2- About smartphone connectivity, it would be very interesting if we could have GPS infos on the bike's screen speaking about rideology, I tried the connection to get the signals when I recieve a call or a message, nothing. I even don't have the speed, GPS tracking, etc... 3- I make the absolute same statement even with cars. Technology put the drivers asleep, and it's very dangerous. Like the "1", it's a source of bugs, but it's way more dangerous. 4- I didn't know they were doing that, thx yammie 5- Amen 6- A proper training with brake do the job 7- ok

[@Ironhorse360DEG]

certain harley models are keyless, and have been for years. no fob, no key, just turn it on, fire it up, and ride off. my 87 shadow used a key, left side, under your leg, near the battery. the problem with a key setup like that is. i've seen guys with a large or huge key chain, full of keys, have the key break off in the ignition switch. if you ride, put your house keys in your pocket, keep your motorcycle key single, and lonesome. i always keep a spare key hidden on the bike some where.

[@fathir14100]

I don't agree with keyless ignition, it wasn't that complex or unreliable. i've been using it for more than 6 years and the only thing you need is keeping your battery in good condition. Surely it was made to protect your bike from get stealed aside of the practicality, i believe if you came from high criminal rates and not really honest law enforcement country you better not to lose your stuff

[@SoCal_RS]

Only issue I have is where do I put it when I go to the track? My suit doesn’t have a pocket

[@aaronashwin3966]

Bikes with keyless ignition usually are pin enabled as well. You don't technically need the key unless you want to remove the seat. ​@@SoCal_RS

[@DR-pu5hm]

​@@SoCal_RS under the seat if you don't need a key to get under there, otherwise a little pouch that ties to your handlebar or frame

[@thunderlight1986]

adaptive cruise control is very dangerous, not just on motorcyles but on all vehicles; ive almost been in a couple accidents because of it. you lose control of your vehicle to programmed sensors. great video!!

[@Oilerrocker]

You should do a video on the advantages and disadvantages of linked braking or if you or anyone know of a good video explaining it more in detail please send me a link.

[@plap.]

I can't remember what the bike is but it has a ridiculous feature. It has a wheelie assist on it. Supposedly when you feel like a wheelie you do what you want to pull the front up and the assist holds you at the balance point. Just a bad way, not to know what the bike is doing is no help learning

[@topbitr9603]

Spot on ! I don’t need so much electronic stuff. I do like the suspension adjustment on my Triumph Tiger because I’m old and lazy😊. I will not keep this bike more than 3 years.

[@Squiddles_]

My shadow has absolutely none of these, and that's part of what makes modern shadows one of the best mid tier bikes out there today. With simplicity comes reliability, and you don't get much simpler than a shadow.

[@wooster1173]

I like keyless start : the key stays in your pocket, without any risk of forgetting it on the bike. And combine braking is great : I can’t imagine not having it.

[@JasonStJohn-my1cs]

I honestly think the quick shifter takes away from the whole excitement of riding a manual transmission vehicle. I just don’t know why people want it I prefer to manually shift at all times it’s part of the fun. Also blipping your throttle is super fun when you’re ripping around

[@DR-pu5hm]

The only thing I think is bad is adaptive cruise control. everything else is awesome honestly. I dont use smartphone connectivity but I know plenty of people that do. Keyless fobs are no less secure than keys- most manufacturers only have 10-20 pin combos for their bike Combined braking is literally never bad unless you are trying to do burnouts Why even complain about quick shifters? 90% of the time they are so nice to have, the other 10% just dont use it. Blind spot detection is nice to have. You should not rely on it alone- but it can just help just that tiny extra bit. If it saves one rider- it was worth it.

[@RahulKumar-up9fb]

Agree with most of it, but I've used blind spot detection and I find it useful. India's traffic is a chaos and people are flying around on bikes, scooters and cars on the road and it sometimes shows me when someone suddenly pops up in my blind spot. But in a flowing traffic like on the highway, it's kinda pointless.

[@DaveBoatBuilder]

I like my Royal Enfield, no traction control, no keyless ignition, no riding modes, no crap. Its got ABS, and I'm good with that.😊

[@russcattell955i]

04 Tiger 955i ( with stripes ) rider here, have none of those gimmicks, don't want them and survived without them since 73.

[@pinkkx7905]

IMO keyless ignition is good, but there's pro and cons to it. like pros are, you don't have to worry about losing the key (for me, since it's inside my wallet) but cons are if you're outside and the battery have ran out, you're stuck

[@swilson42]

Have to completely disagree on keyless ignition. You raise valid points, but are mostly exaggerating the cost side of things. Maybe dealer only options are overpriced, but I added keyless to my 07 GSXR for $300 and an extra fob was $50. More than a key, sure, but far less than the recovery cost of a stolen bike. With the factory ignition, my bike was stolen twice. Traditional ignitions on bikes are trivial to bypass. From screwdrivers (the first theft) to simply unplugging them (the second theft) because you can see and reach the plug while standing next to the bike. My keyless system doesn’t attach to the factory plug, so it’s not obvious to find or bypass when you’re a thief with a few minutes to figure it out. Recovery was a fluke the first time, but I added GPS to my bike after the first theft and that’s what got it back the second time. I have now seen on camera my keyless system thwart two additional theft attempts. The old ignition is still in place in my install, it’s just a dummy, so it wastes time. And who would assume a keyless ignition on an 07 GSXR, especially when they can see the expected ignition right there? When my keyless system dies, that one day might be annoying, but for less than $500 I’ll be back up and running for another however many years. Small price to pay for the added theft deterrent. Of course it’s not perfect, the mafia could still just haul it away, but that’s not the thief I’m dealing with. Side note, gas tank locks are a joke. Got rid of mine the day I bought the bike. Never once had anyone steal gas. The entire bike was stolen twice, but for some reason nobody has seen the hidden value of the 1 or 2 gallons of gas I leave unlocked. 🤷‍♂️ can’t believe nobody is clawing after the $2-$8 of value there… 🙄

[@njmxjunkie3128]

Ya know you say that about the key fob, but my 2013 electraglide ultra limited has 72,000+ miles and I love having it. I’ve never once changed a battery in 10 years and it gives me much more antitheft confidence. I can hot wire dam near any sport bike in minutes. I wouldn’t know where to begin stealing a key fob bike aside from syncing a new key or loading on a trailer lol. I HATE linked brakes and every day I think about bypassing my Harley’s linked braking system

[@doghous3]

many bikes are just rolled away and not even started when stolen...

[@njmxjunkie3128]

@@doghous3 yeah of course, if someone is going to take it nothing is stopping them, but it will certainly stop the unplanned on a whim thefts.

[@Masse24796]

I agree with keyless go and the adaptive cruise control, but the blind spot monitoring is all right.

[@letsg4353]

Keyless is the best feature for delivery riders. They'll never gonna have problem again from forgetting their keys every time they deliver. Here in ph as a delivery rider you have to deliver 200 parcels in different houses. So you have to go on and off at all times.

[@MarshMellowF450]

I love keyless entry, and I love cruise control, I love my quick shifter

[@nulla9601]

My 50hp bike has good old fashion launch control. Red line, control the clutch and launch with a small wheelie

[@xmark21]

On Harleys you can enter a PIN-code if your FOB is lost, which is pretty nice. I used it when my FOB had run out of battery. So I think that this should be a consideration when buying a bike with keyless ignition. If you risk getting stranded if you lose your FOB or the battery runs out: Don't buy it! Murphys law! IWhat really suprised me, is that something as important as the FOB was not bike-specific on a serious brand like Kawasaki. On Harley touring bikes, the keys for the saddlebags are known for not being unique for each bike. Ridiculus! Having adaptive cruise control is silly, if you don't have an automatic transmission, whether it is a car or a bike. Blind spot detection is fine, wheter it is a car or bike - as long as people don't rely on it instead of turning their heads! It's only an aid.

[@Shishou_Shi]

Rare good Yammie Noob video. Not a single thing on here that I don't agree with. Love my simple 90s bike, no electronic aids, the purest form of riding.

[@olegyefremov2583]

Most of major appliances are now capable of wifi. Higher end even have bluetooth. I'm talking fridges. Dishwashers, washers/dryers etc

[@aeroman5239]

In other words, you're never going to own a MY2021+ Ducati MTS V4/V4S/V4PP/V4RS. Yeah, I get it - you hate platform. OTH, I'm a proud owner of a '22 MTS V4 PP, with keyless ignition, Q/S, Adaptive Cruise, Blindspot Detection, etc., and I enjoy having all those features, as they enhance, not distract, from my riding experience. Different strokes for different folks!

[@markkumanninen6524]

I agree with you at all points, but then, I'm an old-timer riding a 1997 Dual Sport. I even use paper maps in my tours.

[@Stacy_Smith]

Some of us have hardware and can't do head checks. That being said... CONVEX MIRRORS ARE CHEAP! Also that little light doesn't look behind you and factor in a vehicle's closing speed. In a dynamic situation, you don't just need to know where a vehicle is, you also need to know where a vehicle WILL BE. Had a 4-wheeler make the mistake of relying on that little light. He broke my 19yr streak of never having an accident in a truck! HE ADMITTED TO RELYING ON THAT LIGHT. He was going 50mph from a left hand merge and I was doing 60. He started over and I couldn't back it down fast enough (shoulder had to much overgrowth) and he tagged my front bumper & fender. 3 more feet and I could've avoided him, OR, now hear me out, he waited until I passed or sped up before changing lanes!

[@farhanrahmaddani3218]

what's weird is Honda's combine brake is on the rear brake not front , so just forget about stabilizing your bike at slow speed using rear brake, because the front will dive no mater what

[@decocatani]

I agree with almost everything except for the linked brakes system. On large motorcycles they are perfect, safe and help a lot in practically all situations. The rest is, in fact, marketing.

[@yourivleghert8365]

My bro just killed my desires of upgrading my '18 h2 SXSE to a newer model in the first three examples. That Yammi.

[@SuperSpruce]

My takes on these: 1. As long as a key can still be used as a backup (like in my car), then it's a nice convenience, but not a major selling point. Without the backup, its a big issue. 2. This is definitely the most over-hyped feature in this list. It's actually a major ANTI-selling point to me. Why? Because you bet through connecting to your smartphone it'll be selling your spirited riding data to insurers and governments. There is pretty much nothing good about such a feature either. 3 and 4. Nice to have but definitely non selling point features. 5. If done right, it can be a pretty good selling point. If not, just ignore it. 6. Another anti-feature. I enjoy the flexibility of unlinked breaks. 7. Kinda unnecessary but also isn't gonna hurt as long as the nannies can be turned off.

[@SB-or5mj]

Yeah I dunno man. I love my keyless Harley. I've never had a single issue with it. And if you lose the FOB you can just input a PIN number instead. It's easy. They were pretty early adopters to the keyless thing, so I think they have one of the best on the market. Same with autio-off turn signals. Works really well.

[@brokensmilephoto]

You know, the quick shifter on the 8R isn't bad on the downs once things get broken in a bit more. Seemed like around the 1k mile mark I noticed the quick shifter getting much better on both up and downs. I would suggest during break in, use it a few times on the up, but as you rack up the miles and get some fresh fluids in you'll find it get even better. It's still not perfect on the downs, and it does feel like you really gotta be firm with the down shift.