Supremely Outmatched | Su-57 Vs F-4E Phantom II | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@numberyellow]

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[@mileswilson1776]

could you do a video flying any f35 variant in a potential real world scenario?

[@jasontipton8430]

That was so cool merge then lights out

[@johnnyd9992]

apparently he had 1 left..great use of knowledge of the aircraft..soo close to gettin him..

[@edwardking186]

F-15C armed with the AIM-174 and Meteors vs. Mig-31 and SU-35s armed with R-37M hypersonics and R-77Ms.

[@shanebarenblatt1925]

Yo I think the f-15ex with its powerful radar armed with the aim 174s vs a MiG 31 armed with the r-37ms would be a very interesting fight showcasing both extreme standoff capabilities of the the superpowers

[@christopherchartier3017]

The aim174b would outrange the R-37M, but the R-37M is a faster missile overall. Would be an interesting dynamic

[@paulochs]

True!

[@paulochs]

True! Really.

[@dadaddy1677]

Would be very cool to see also

[@Илья_Голем]

What about Kh-172?

[@LDSG_A_Team]

I can't believe you actually got to the merge 😂

[@EvoraGT430]

The missile that killed him was most likely too close to arm, honestly.

[@dannypattieovercash8327]

I can't believe he got a missile off at him!

[@cancelanime1507]

If GS turned towards him a few seconds earlier that sparrow probably would have tracked

[@firebald2915]

Looks like Jester made it out ok. Shrapnel is selective in R77m's.

[@steves1371]

It would be cool to hear from the perspective of your bandit sometimes, to see what they think of your tactics and whatnot

[@Ayeshteni]

A lot of panicked screaming "WHY IS HE NOT DEAD YET!!!!!" and "AAAAAHHHH HE'S IN THE MERGE WITH ME!""""

[@TheUberSchattenjager]

Maybe a chat window to see what the bandit is saying while GS narrates per usual

[@dvjvbv]

Yes. Neither can hear the other during the fight, but insert the opponent's chat or POV at interesting points.

[@ShovelMonkey]

A Tacview Debrief with both parties giving input.

[@skipdippity]

Yeah would like to see a video on the felons side..!

[@mrvwbug4423]

That you got that fight to a merge was amazing. Had he not had a Fox 2 left you might have had him, that was literally a thrust vector victory, he just got the nose around just fast enough to squeeze off a point blank Fox 2.

[@Stinger522]

It was another R-77M since it came from the ventral bay. Archer missiles are shot from the side bays.

[@SAM-jd6pk]

Firstly, get some glasses, that was clearly a R-77M, also, GSs Fox 2 would have never turned tight enough to get that shot, also even with only Guns the felon would destroy the F-4

[@traviswalker8933]

The F-4 is no match for the Su-57.

[@Stinger522]

@@traviswalker8933 True. But you can't deny Growling's sacrifice was entertaining.

[@traviswalker8933]

@@Stinger522 he flew the ancient jet well. No denying that.

[@DCobra98]

The fact that you got an F-4 to the merge with a Felon says it all. Awesome flying!

[@michaelsmith1060]

A big part of that is that the Russian missiles are bugged in DCS.

[@marrty777]

@@michaelsmith1060 Russian missiles are interfering with the election as we speak

[@nobeltnium]

@@michaelsmith1060 It seems like it tracked the F4 pretty good there. Just lead to the ground

[@davidmann1871]

In a larger scenario, that's definitely a victory for GS. Bought enough time for other assets to engage and wasted a whole sortie for that Felon.

[@MikeRoch-m4r]

@@michaelsmith1060 Agreed, Russian missiles is unrealistically good in DCS.

[@Sentinal375]

YES IT'S HERE! Next: Spitfire VS. SU-57

[@Reaper_03-01]

After that it will have to be the Sopwith Camel vs Su-57.

[@averagejoe112]

Su-57 against the Wright Flyer next!

[@BlueDevel]

I-16 ?

[@timonsolus]

@@averagejoe112 : Su-57 against a Native American with a bow and arrows?

[@frtik753]

Sopwith Camel vs YF23

[@FireGoliath]

Dude you got closer to killing that felon than any airframe that old should have.

[@DeathPenny]

The fact that you forced a Felon to the merge is a miracle in itself, and it had to be pissing him off watching you drive his missiles into the ground lol - ultimately spending more on the missiles fired than the cost of the plane they were trying to kill.

[@lexwaldez]

I tried to figure out what the total cost of those missile launches might be but couldn't come up with a solid number. Has to be way more than the F-4.

[@konosmgr]

are you guys nuts, an f-4e costs way more than a few r-77m

[@dansnow7374]

The fact you got to the merge in a nearly 65+ year design against a 5th gen is awesome. “Combat tactics Ryan.” Capt. Bart Mancuso, USS Dallas ret.

[@ChadKanotz]

F-4 pilot visibility philosophy: See? You don't need to see. You got that...uh...radar thingy.

[@polarbear2697]

All that dodging had me calling you "Mr. Anderson"

[@JETZcorp]

"He's starting to believe."

[@ShovelMonkey]

Do you hear that? That is the sound of inevitability, Mr. Andersen.

[@YokaiX]

Neo

[@drumking241]

We're gonna need guns, .... lots of guns.

[@johngeiger3770]

There is no missiles.

[@djgummikuh8895]

I wouldn't like to be that Su-57 pilot having to explain to their superiors why they wasted missiles that in sum cost more than your entire F4 lol

[@andersjjensen]

Don't ask what the target is worth. Ask what's the value of the things the target can destroy if left unchecked.

[@AriraleLover]

Ракеты су57 не такие дорогие, как тебе может показаться, западные обычно в 2-3 раза дороже, но там и материалы с зарплатами рабочих выше

[@theidiotictroublemaker2281]

The cost of a phantom is like 22 million usd. The cost of a r77 is 1.09 million usd.

[@ryanjones2297]

@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 Maybe new, but a Phantom today goes for more like 4 million USD.

[@BooneFinn]

In todays episode: "David gets obliterated by Goliath, but not before giving the skychad PTSD" and... "Radar edition Daredevil faces frustrated Kingpin" Featuring: "Can't touch this FOX-3's" "Use the Force Luke" "Put the 'Phantom' to F-4"

[@angrydragon4574]

Now THAT was creative.

[@BooneFinn]

@@angrydragon4574 Thank you Sir! 🙏

[@andersjjensen]

LOL! Have an upvote, Sir!

[@aaronbadbear5921]

The Phantom is my favorite fighter jet. Loved this video. The inverted nose dive you used to defeat one of the missiles, using the weight and the power of the jet was what the pilots ended up doing to hang with smaller aircrafts. I watched a video on how pilots would use the same inverted dive to to turn harder with smaller jets that had better maneuverability and tighter turns. Would definately watch a round 2 to this matchup. Keep up the great work, love the videos!

[@chrismiller3835]

At least Jester survived to tell the world about your noble sacrifice! :P

[@Ayeshteni]

I'm considering that a win. Especially of the report that "We manged to destroy millions of dollars of enemy ordnance."

[@wookie7017]

Bring back the tac-view after the fight and talk to the other pilot like you used to do. I’d love to hear how frustrated he was getting watching you drive his missiles into the ground. 😂

[@MrWasurfer86]

this one wouldve been good

[@jjkrayenhagen]

I kind of like how he just leaves it in these videos. But I really would like to see a tac view breakdown as well. What about a follow up video doing the tac view breakdowns?

[@TheJohnlyh]

Yeah i agree bring back tac view

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

On the plus side, the total cost of missiles to the Russian Federation far exceeded the cost of the 60 year old F4, and there are no bragging rights for the Felon pilot. It is like a ranked Olympic boxer going ten rounds with an unranked no-name.

[@xX_Gravity_Xx]

Guy's not an unranked no-name afterwards though. 🤣

[@amunra5330]

Jesus you guys take this personal dont you.......Its okay man the US is still number one lol

[@benn454]

@@amunra5330 Lighten up, Francis. It's all in good fun.

[@rocketassistedgoat1079]

I'm sure you meant to say; it's like a convicted felon with a bat, beating to death a baby seal.

[@ShovelMonkey]

@@benn454 Stripes.

[@cancelanime1507]

Man when I heard that sparrow tone I actually thought u were gonna get away with a kill

[@cszabo8899]

One of your absolute best videos! Superb suspense, had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. A combination of your heightened anxiety, the suspense of a Phantom vs a Felon, and your expert search for the best possible forms and routes of evasion, really put us in the seat right there with you. I could have watched you evade him for hours.

[@Sacto1654]

I'm actually amazed you made it that long with an Su 57 with superior almost everything compared to the F-4E.

[@brellnob]

Almost?

[@EDCandLace]

Numbers?

[@Kitkat-986]

The F4 is faster. It's not much of an advantage, but it's something.

[@Triad_Orion]

@@brellnob The F-4 looks cooler than the Felon. Definitely got that going for it. 😆

[@blackbuttecruizr]

Can't wait to see the shenanigans! You definitely survived an unbelievably long time!

[@GH-yp8ri]

Just the fact that you managed to get sidewinders off at him in the merge is extraordinary. True testament to your skill as a pilot and the sheer speed brick that is the F4. That fight should not have been as close as it was. Fantastic performance from the old guard and her driver.

[@mrgoober6320]

For people who are curious about the numbers: at 20,000 ft, air density is about half what it is at sea level. At 40,000 ft, it's about a quarter.

[@tigerpjm]

Thank you! I've spent a long time wondering how you figure out what the MAR is. Now I still don't know for sure! (I guess you halve the theoretical max range of the missile at 20,000, quarter it at low altitude?)

[@icin4d]

Speechless as to your situational and tactical awareness here. Quite the nail-biter.

[@KillerKev1961]

I thought you had it! The trees were your friend!

[@petercj550]

I miss the post flight analysis ,like you had a long time ago. It was just as entertaining if not more entertaining than the actual fight. I learned a lot from it. I wish you'd bring it back.

[@DarkOperationman]

You made it in to the merge! That's basically pretty much win already for me.

[@XTXImperator]

Bravo GS, you did very, VERY well here. You forced a Felon to merge with you and that is an outstanding achievement! Alas, in the end, the gap in technology proved to be too great in the end.

[@PhilTParker]

For GS to actually get into the merge with that Felon in his A4 is a testament to smart flying combined with solid strategy and tactics, all used together. It’s amazing. And like it was said in Top Gun more than once, “It’s about the pilot. Not the plane.”

[@Joey-tc2uo]

video idea for you would be to strap the aim 174 to a tomcat and see how reliant it would be against modern Russian and Chinese fighters. also great video gs

[@gabrielm.6987]

Definitely try this again

[@typol1389]

"I am the danger Skyler. I am the one who merges."

[@jameskester7745]

Man, that was a great fight. You made it closer then I imagined you would, great job!

[@esbuenodun]

In the faaaaace!! 😂😂😂 nice work. That was way closer than I thought it was going to be. 👍🏾👏🏾💪🏾🙌🏾

[@user-zu7fr8qm8r]

That is so close. As in almost beating the Elden Ring Boss and dying with only 3 HP left on the boss health bar close. A good show indeed.

[@muthaz1952]

This was a really great video. One of my favorite planes as well. Thank you.

[@MulderJosh]

Quite the cinematography for the ending, great directing!

[@SupaHogg]

One word: spectacular Both in the way you survived for so long and in the way you disintegrated.

[@donphobos]

This has been a heroic fight, kudos!

[@timandshannon03]

That lasted a lot longer than I expected. With the video length, I was honestly expected 2-3 rounds. Well done GS!!!!

[@jaejampro1]

Though you're dead that was excellent airmanship...

[@rodymonster]

THE BEST I have ever seen you fly BVR. that was AWESOME!

[@HandFromCoffin]

2:00 I think you make a good point. You're a "modern pilot" with an old jet. So you know what he's slinging at you.

[@rtpfixit]

Dude, what a wild choice of opponents. Game on!

[@ZachAttack2U]

Excellent Effort GS, thanks for the great content! 🔥

[@jonathanbarrell82]

I cannot believe you made it to the merge with a Felon. Thats amazing flying.

[@208SledHead]

Absolutely brilliant flying. You had that Felon sweatin!!

[@SextonHardcastle85]

Surviving long enough in a F4 to merge with a Felon is nothing to sneeze at. Good flying!

[@Plymouth-Interlocking]

I laughed out loud when that went to the merge! That was awesome. If only you could have snuck in that fox 2!

[@Hubba404]

"It's not the plane, it's the pilot ins..." SPLAT

[@iamn8746]

That shot of you leading the missle into the ground and riding low in the distance though ❤

[@glennhelka8045]

That was an awesome flying job Side, you did great.

[@SirLionofBiff]

That was way the heck closer than it ever should have been.

[@LilMissMurder3409]

Noticing you're still alive has to be the greatest feeling ever.

[@toyfischer]

i knew you were going to die, but getting even a shot off was super impressive

[@Usurphlhen]

If you want to make this "fair" would you could use the F-4F ICE with an f-18 radar and amraams or the F-4E 2020 Terminator

[@arrow0872]

The Terminator upgrade is A2G and lacks BVR capabilities as far as I know. The German and Greek ICE upgrades are A2A capable and would be more suitable…

[@PrimarchX]

That was a super Fox-2 there at the end. Talk about a clutch shot. But you fought the good fight, making him put 3x the cost of your Phantom in missiles into the ground!

[@thrillzgaming8599]

Even making it to the merge was a huge win!

[@FireGoliath]

How dangerous could a 21st century F-4 Phatom be? F-35 RADAR, AMRAAM's, ETC

[@derekfaldik8041]

We are entering the age of avionics dominance. Anything that can haul ordinance is can be a missile truck then sensor-fused with F-35's and UCAV's of the future and be very dangerous.

[@radical137]

There are F-4EJ's being retired now in Japan, you know those probably have some nice upgrades.

[@andersjjensen]

It would be dangerous in a standoff fight, which is what everyone expects to be the absolute majority of engagements. But really, it's not the individual plane, but the entire kill-chain. Your hypothetical F-4 in packs of 4-5 with state of the art AWACS, mountain-top large aperture radars, layered GBAD and top professional crews on all of them would be practically impossible to penetrate. But it would royally suck if you wanted to go on the offensive.

[@ioannismik]

HAF F-4E AUP with AIM-120B and radar data from Erieye would be a very different scenario.

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

That's just an F-16 Block 60 at that point

[@defdaz]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, so close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing job, GS!

[@TheBillzilla]

Well done! You lasted quite a lot longer than I would have expected.

[@codychild2665]

Damn, GS! That was close! Thought you had him and very nearly did!👏👏👏🤯

[@tombaldwin328]

Well fought battle. I didn't expect you to last that long either...😊

[@wruenvadam]

That was some seriously impressive flying. I'd say you definitely showcased the saying "its not the plane, its the pilot," all the way up until it out turned you and blasted you in the face. XD You really made that F-4E look like it actually stood a chance which is the most I could ask for considering its my favorite all time jet aircraft.

[@ohalrighthen4301]

Posthumous Distinguished Flying Cross for that effort.

[@jimm.6542]

I don’t normally make comments to your videos, but I watch most of them. I grew up wanting to be an F4 Phantom pilot. You did justice to that aircraft taking it to the merge. I was on the edge of my seat watching this video. I seriously think you should run this one back because I think you might win the next time! Lessons learned……

[@FlyboyKC64154]

He shot a bunch of missiles at you before taking you out at the merge. I would say you had better odds than you thought.

[@kelliya9818]

Felon vs Phantom - the STONES on this guy....

[@JerickDeGuzman-w4b]

He definitely did a top gun: maverick on you. Avenging a fellow Felon who died the moment he fired a missile.

[@RikkiSan1]

Honestly you put up an awesome fight

[@craig_sez8534]

I actually thought "Holy shit he might pull it off" then the explosion and it was gone..

[@FS2K4Pilot]

Mixing that Archer in with all those flares was tricky!

[@tristandaries1129]

I know going into the merge is an unnecessary risk if you outrange your opponent, but cmon it’s a Felon, he was several seconds late to turn and he still got his nose on before you and had enough time to break off and flare

[@Powerhead1000]

If you’re going out. That was one hell of a way to go! I was impressed you made it that far against those odds.

[@waveman2952]

Some of the best flying I've seen right up until the point you ate a missile! Great flying Sidewinder

[@martinblank1484]

That was great! One of the best so far...great flying!

[@yoshikobayashi7643]

Thank you!!! You almost had him! With Japan and Korea just recently retiring it's F-4s I wanted to see how the F-4 would do against modern Russian or Chinese fighters. Maybe not the Su-57 but the Flanker, J-10 or J-15.

[@murphyuriaguereka4360]

omg that was close man! Insane, good job!

[@a24396]

How do you win? You fly to not lose and force him to miss until he's out of BVR missiles. Then, if you can find him, you've got a chance...

[@oddy1637]

Gun exists.. IR missiles exist...

[@Nicolas-zw5ex]

Same with any other stealth plane

[@Mariner311]

Curious if the Felon driver got some sphincter clench THAT close - you should have gone GUNS.

[@Kenjake26]

ITS NOT THE PLANE, ITS THE PILOT 🤣 - Lieutenant Bradley "Rooster" Bradshaw

[@antonioconte49]

Another killer video! Thank you!

[@skyatkinson3577]

Amazing that you made it too the merge with a felon ..great video

[@jeffashworth5752]

The next Supremely Outmatched should be a P-47 Vs a A-10, Clash of the Thunderbolts

[@Michael_Michaels]

Damn! This one was close!! You almost had it!!! Well done!

[@j.59]

Amazed you made it to the merge. Nice work

[@perfectcell1157]

You sure can fly impressive skills my dude cheers

[@SHARPSPEED]

The objective being "survive" is...telling.

[@falcon9983]

Dude the fact that you made it to the merge at all is crazy

[@TofuBoi_]

Almost had it with a jet built in the 60s 😄

[@airsuperiorityishere]

The beginning at the cockpit view in the Phantom legitimately looks like gopro footage

[@craiga.glesner424]

I don't know maybe it's just me but I realized, I miss the Tac View debriefs. I do like the F-4 content though. Another jet of my childhood. Thanks for the entertainment and a smidge of air to air knowledge. :)

[@johnkruton9708]

Wow. Lasted until the missle to the face. Great Flying and tactics.

[@MrZeek1519]

What a fantastic video. More overmatched vids, Please!!!

[@Phoenix2.5D]

13:38 that's fucking awesome, I never even thought of that

[@Riccardo_Silva]

Ther's just one SINGLE category in which the Felon will never beat an F4: the Phantom is such a BEAUTY!!!!

[@Yu-Gé-Mon]

No idea if you’ve done it, f-14 vs f-4. 2 navy icons would be dope. Keep it up. Love these videos

[@MichaelDonlinAwesome]

Very tense. Cool stuff.

[@Karvega11]

There is an AF base about 100 miles from me and about once a month you'll here a sonic boom. I looked up what plane it could be and the flightradar app showed a F-4 Phantom flying away. Pretty cool.