How Much Power Do You Lose w/ Universal Adapters? Dyno Test For Science

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Our rec's Pinless: amzn.to/31ZFN3P Pinned: amzn.to/3s5q6T8 We had planned to simply see how much power you lose with these types of tools, but it left us with more questions than answers as we dove deeper. So jump into the deep end with us as we try to make sense of the madness with a whole lot of testing and data on these Sunex, Tekton, Gearwrench x-core and Neiko pinned and pinless universal impact socket adapters. Snap-On and Matco to follow in a few weeks!
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[@TorqueTestChannel]

Who else here for the super outdated Alec Baldwin reference now tho?

[@ObservationofLimits]

Slimmer, sleeker …. Because it’s hard to gain weight in prison?

[@xitywampas]

Not here for the Alec Baldwin reference, but I did laugh about it when you made the reference. I just love watching tool reviews and tests. I also want to point out that I love your testing methods and plan on watching all of your videos.

[@jaythatguyyouknow5135]

The fact you remembered when you made an obscure, offhand joke 7 months later is kinda funny. The fact you remembered that, made it a point to come back and pin this comment, all after that unfortunate event where the wannabe orange man did what he did makes you legendary.

[@curtisjeffery8723]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJbCfWuOgNmGa5I Something a little different for a test?

[@doubleya215]

I pray if I purchase one of these universal adapters it doesn't shoot me in the face.

[@50sKid]

I would really love to see you guys test torque sticks for accuracy, particularly harbor freight

[@asvarien]

What is a torque stick?

[@willbgrill]

At shop air pressure at about 120 psi my set over torques it's rating by anywhere from about 7ft-lbs to 20ft-lbs, I now just go down a size and then torque lug nuts by hand after. The higher the torque rating of the stick the more it over torques in my experience. It also differs slightly between lug nut styles i.e. acorn vs the Toyota style flat washer type and differs slightly when the studs have anti-seize on them vs not. I imagine this is a universal finding if I were to use other brands of torque sticks. As with these tests, the longer the impact gun is running the higher the torque rating so I don't keep holding the trigger down once the fastener slows to almost stopping, which is usually a few hits after being snugged.

[@JacobEcret]

I agree

[@JacobEcret]

@@asvarien huh???

[@JacobEcret]

@@asvarien it’s a stick that twists when it gets to its max torque, to prevent over torque, mostly used on wheel nuts

[@ericdulmes4018]

I don't know what your background is, but you've got the intelligence of an experienced mechanical engineer and the practicality of an auto mechanic. Throw in some dry comedy and ability to explain better than most tenured teachers and professors and you've got a winning channel.

[@pedrotalavera3541]

Great comment. I agree with it all.

[@parasportz]

Hmmm.....engineers...🤣🤣🤣

[@robotlegs]

@parasportz engineers?

[@NicksStuff]

Kinda like Ave but with data 😍

[@inidaho6740]

Thanks for great reviews! Would you consider testing snapon, matco, vim, etc universals?

[@Name-vu1kn]

I want to see a Project Farm/ Torque Test collaboration. I have no idea what that looks like, but it’s fun to see your channels give consumers truth.

[@TheVexCortex]

"Today on Project Test, we're going to see what seafoam does to this impact wrench!"

[@Name-vu1kn]

If you had Project Farm, Torque Test, and the Lock Picking Lawyer in one video it might cause corporate America to have a complete meltdown.

[@GmKofHard]

@@Name-vu1kn lmao you forgot 1 person to make that list prefect. Mustie1 with all his equipment would make 1 hell of a movie. It may save Hollywood

[@pospc2]

Get bigclive to take them apart after.

[@jacob476]

Don't forget cousin eddy

[@envisionCamusa]

@ 21:39 I disagree, you weren't taking too much. The information is direct and precisely what we're looking for. This channel is fantastic.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We usually try to keep videos as short as they can be, sorry for the length of this one. We cut what we can, but there was so much data on these we felt was useful! Links for what we'd recommend. Pinless: amzn.to/31ZFN3P Pinned: amzn.to/3s5q6T8

[@charlesflores9714]

Would totally support y’all on a patreon. The value of information is worth my $10 a month.

[@ThatGuyInTheShed]

The length is perfect, I could watch more.

[@FishFind3000]

Length was fine

[@plaid11]

I’d rather have a 30 minute video that shows stuff like this than a 5 minute video that doesn’t explain anything. Showing what happened to each part was the most interesting part of it. The normal torque stuff is good information and important but it’s the seeing what happens to the tools themselves over time is the real information.

[@PentagonPirate]

Length isn't a huge deal as long as the content is awesome, and it is. Love having all these questions answered that I never knew I had.

[@MrSupernova111]

I'm amazed at the prices that Gearwrench gets away with charging when their products consistently underperform and they are notorious for spotty quality control.

[@brendancross2767]

"before we get on with the Ugga duggas" You just earned a subscriber

[@longlowdog]

Tyre fitter guy asked me yesterday if I had the torque figure for my old model X3 B-m, I said two ugga duggas, he smiled and put the wheels on. They didn't fall off on the way home. All is good with life.

[@markchidester6239]

Bet he got it from SMA

[@bildo508]

This is probably one ☝️ of your best videos yet! All the 47 herbs and spices, had me cracking up 😂!

[@mathuetax]

Nice job on this, it's quite helpful. I look forward to seeing Snap-On, MATCO and MAC. I'd also suggest SK tools SKU #46990, Bahco SB8166, Wright Tool 4800, Stahlwille #33020000 and Williams 4-140a as well.

[@swayme67]

Excellent content folks. Please keep these coming, they are fantastically informational and interesting to watch. Bravo on creating this channel!

[@plaid11]

I absolutely love these kinds of videos where it’s really testing the whole of the tools. That was the reason I came across your channel in the first place. Keep it up!

[@JoeBidenIsNotMyPresident]

I have the Sunex universals and I love them. I use them constantly and had very few issues with them.

[@markchidester6239]

Me too. I think they are going to replace snapon. Seem to hold up to them

[@Zyphen4866]

I have the same one and packed it with grease when new, use it almost every time the impact is being used and never had any issues

[@dieselhatz4247]

Awesome video, very informative. Your dead pan delivery of the phrases had me laughing “Gearwrench didn’t want to come to work today”. I’m in the UK and buy tools from US Amazon occasionally, these videos really help with making those important decisions in life. Think I’ll look at those Tekton and Sunex.

[@michaelsanto985]

Loved the in depth, longer video you should keep doing them every once and a while

[@joshuarobinson7522]

Awesome vid! I actually have the $12 Tekton and i love it, but i did wonder about the angle of the Sunex and you answered it, plus seeing these compared to the Gearwrench-Matco style was such an eye-opener and the info on the metal types and hardness. Everyone in the market for an impact swivel should watch this vid for sure!

[@braddokken9191]

Very informative results! The span between best and worst is huge in this shootout. Thanks for the in depth video!

[@rhunter3406]

Hey, as a heavy equipment technician I found you get better torque transfer by lubricating them with EP grease. I have both styles and it works on both. You should do a quick follow up on this!

[@Comm0ut]

Slick since grease is of course intended not to rapidly flow under shock loads.

[@JeffSmith-pr1st]

I am a GM auto technician, and I like these videos, it allows me to see how products work before purchasing products weather it’s from the big box store or off the tool truck’s! I have use the impact universal both with pin and pin-less. I have the set of the Matco’s and for me they seem to last me the longest before having to have them warranted.

[@Darkcruzer23]

i love seeing dyno numbers, making sure companies arent lying to us. but things like this and the leaf blower are always a welcome addition. we use all kinds of tools and saving us from buying bad ones like the gearwrench is very appreciated!

[@sambrose1]

Great work!!! I'm a big fan of Sunex and am happy to see some real world hard hitting tests.

[@982Nighthawk1337]

I'm really liking all of your content so far so keep it up. I'll be along for the ride. Thanks for all the thorough testing and examination. 👍

[@ChrisZBr0wn]

Love these deep dives as a mech engineer and weekend mechanic. Great explains and thank you for all the testing and data! Easy to say what something might do, but you guys actually test and explain the data! Like a BOLTR but a little deeper. Keep up the good work gents!

[@Tilt_TM]

I'm very happy with my Sunex impact socket kits. I have a bunch of their swivel sockets, so I'm glad to see that their products performed well in testing.

[@Gadsdentreadlightly]

I absolutely am enamored with the in depth style of video. Thank you

[@rstar88105]

Before watching, i think the Gearwrench/ Matco 4 flute style will win. Wow that Tekton 6 sided design was really cool to see! All of my stuff is the dedicated sized swivel sockets but I will think about this as they wear out. Just checked Tekton's website and I am shocked they don't sell size dedicated impact swivel sockets. That design would sell so good!

[@magpieblue]

LOVED the level of evaluation and testing you went to. It's very different to see some of this analysis and gives a lot more depth to the end results. I love how careful you were with candidate selection and the research / communication you did before even getting started. That's some wonderful dedication to quality. This is the first of your videos that I've seen, but I'll definitely be watching more based on the production values of this one. I understand your other videos may be shorter / less detailed, just wanted to say thank you for this one :)

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Thanks! More in depth style coming soon on pricier brands!

[@LibraWolf983]

watching this video makes me glad i own the sunex adapter. its been in my tool box for some time and has not shown signs of failure. also own the 3/8 and 1/4 drive. great video. keep up the good work.

[@Jay_Ira]

Great video and testing as usual. I've been needing to get some impact universal joint adaptors. Being a big fan of Tekton already, I'm happy to add their adaptors to my list. Looking forward to the IR 2235 test soon. Keep up the amazing work guys!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

IR was delayed 1 week, sorry about that. Blame DeWalt for releasing a new impact.

[@Jay_Ira]

The impact wars are great news for us. You guys are forgiven for delays. Just know every video drop is like Christmas morning for me and several of us.

[@itsatoolthing6323]

Next up the warranty test? You should send in the impact wobbly adapter with a copy of the video it each and see which company stands behind their tools. Great job as allows!

[@michaelbamber4887]

Probably like the reducers, says no warranty on the side.

[@sohailashiq8693]

Great video. Wasnt too long and had in-depth info you wont find anywhere else. Keep up the good work.

[@georgecolbert3247]

Outstanding video, getting to the why also behind the testing! I suggest exploring the universal sockets because they are used a lot. Also, great video on the extensions.

[@YZZRinserts]

Love these longer 20M+ videos. Great video. Great channel. Please come out with more videos before I finish binging all of them.

[@aXBlackDeathXa]

Very interesting, enjoyed the whole thing. Was quite shocked at the level of loss with some of those. Good work.

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

Really awesome review. I have sold Sunex and later on Grey Impact sockets/tools since the 80's. Pallets and pallets of them.I also was a weekend fabricator. It was hard to convince people how good they were until I got them to try them. Then they never questioned them again! The other thing that was great about their sockets were thinner wall than any other brand back then. Awesome explanation on the Hardness/alloys heat treatment ! Any one of those can make or break a good socket! I have never seen an electronic/diamond tipped hardness tester. WOW ! Nice equipment investment! Congrats! New Subscriber!

[@geoffstrickler]

Very impressive performance by the Sunex pin type. Also impressed by the Tekton.

[@johanusyolder]

Sunex has a great reputation for their impact sockets in general

[@dougankrum3328]

@@johanusyolder Yeah, I've go a few 3/4" Sunex impact sockets I bought from a Heavy duty truck clutch and axle store. Taiwan made, but sure work great, 6 point of course and matte black, fit the fasteners very snug.. Good quality impacts are seldom 'chrome' or 12 points. Even Snap-on states right on their chrome sockets....'Not for Impact Use'... The truck parts store deals with a lot of heavy duty semi-truck stuff...no flimsy tools sold there..most of their customers are big truck mechanics, Internatiol is right down the street...

[@billS560]

I love these tests. These videos mean more than others, because i dont use these enough to know whats good/bad.

[@big_mike_nyc]

This is the awesome content I really enjoy viewing! You are the Mr Wizards World of tool testing!😀

[@tylerarmijo4694]

I love your videos! Very informative and always entertaining. I would like to see even just a short clip showing if there is a torque loss in using a universal wobble adapter with a socket vs a wobble socket that is one piece

[@timhunt7830]

I love learning more about tools and which ones hold up well and perform better than others and the reasons possibly behind that regardless of what that entails

[@Whateveryouwannacallme]

I’m loving the vids. It’s a new and different way to see results and I like it.

[@TCPUDPATM]

Your videos are so in-depth. Love it!

[@JohnB-kv4gf]

Just discovered and subscribed to you guys. Really appreciate your no nonsense style and wit. Just goes to show that "one scientific study can blow away a thousand opinions"

[@ZRXBILL]

Thank you thank you thank you, this is exactly what I needed to see. I’ve been looking at these because that’s the only way I’ll be able to get the lower control arm on my wife’s Taurus off in order to replace the front strut assembly.

[@bleach_drink_me]

Can confirm the tekton holds up good. Bought it after this video came out, still pretty much like new. Has been used on full size and stubby impacts.

[@squib308]

That is a badass hardness tester - the machines I've used before are floor standing machines, totally mechanical. turn the wheel until you load up the indenter to a certain amount, then pull the main lever/weight applier, and let it sit 30 seconds to settle. Then undo it, and see how far back the needle goes and get your reading that way. much faster, field usable meter you got there. pretty cool!

[@BrewmasterC]

This is a very interesting channel, I have learned a great deal from the few vids I have seen, nice work.

[@igaleib]

Love the video, as for the "tech talk" part, there are plenty "tool reviews" which seem to all cover the same things, but none of them dive in to the hidden inner parts.

[@wim0104]

that Tekton swivel adapter is *really* nice, thank you for this!

[@robertfrate9738]

Hi, excellent video ty so much, please don’t apologize explaining these products, this video is extremely helpful and educational, your demonstration is extremely appreciated and valued, your not talking to much at all your doing an outstanding job of educating the public, now I know what impact universal is quality and holds up, your video is extremely helpful, ty so much, regards, Bob Frate,

[@john4kc]

Another good video. The torque loss reinforces advice I give, which is to never cheap out on an impact wrench. You need all the power you can afford, because you're going to be giving a lot of the power right back to things like extensions and swivels.

[@dougankrum3328]

Yeah, swivels lose a lot of power as soon as you get just a few degrees off a straight line.

[@almosthuman4457]

I love my sunex tools. Not fancy but they get the job done and the thought they put into their plastic cases is noteworthy.

[@kdbl007]

Damn I’m glad I stumbled upon this channel...You’ve already gotten me to buy 2 Milwaukee impacts (mid and high torques) and now I’m swapping out all my old and crusty universals. Thank jeevus I don’t use air tools or I’d be in trouble!

[@rodneyharouff5739]

everything i've seen you'all do on here is good! thanks!

[@danashay]

Best show ever! Great pie too. Please carry on!

[@ethanwatters8704]

Cool comparison and awesome channel. Data is beautiful and ya'll deliver.

[@rlozer10]

I personally love the deep dive on this kind of stuff!

[@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL]

2 years ago after watching this I ordered two 1/2" tekton and two 3/8 tekton pinless universal joints and use them all the time. They have held up very well. Thank you for doing this video

[@jozsefizsak]

Excellent! I appreciate the depth and detail very much.

[@mikelight2965]

Well done! Appreciate the diligence!

[@flipmarc69]

Thanks for this. I've been using the Sunex 1/2" and 3/8" for a couple of years. Had no idea I was loosing about 30%.

[@PhillipDrumz]

I love your videos- it’s like popular mechanics testing except on KZbin!

[@DispatchCenter]

Oh this channel is going places soon. This is project farm level of testing and information. Please keep doing deep dives, this was amazing.

[@ChiefLink]

Fantastic work. I have an HF pinned universal socket that has held up surprisingly well. I think it's still available for purchase. I also got some Ares universals as extras recently and I'm curious how they stack up, since the price was so reasonable. Keep up these deep dive videos along with the usual stuff, your research and testing is phenomenal.

[@rushthezeppelin]

I have one of the pinned HF ones and it's worked great for me so far. I'm usually only breaking around 100# or less with it in suspension components though.

[@ThadrinC]

Yet another amazing video! One thing I would like to see is on battery powered tools the torque loss as the battery gets lower on charge. For example full power, 3/4 power.. half power etc

[@abcdefg3386]

Big thumps up for showing the torque in Nm!

[@hpcrYetti]

Got the gearwrench set and I smoked the 1/2 drive one much like yall did. Definitely going to pick up more sunex and tekton tools and love the content so far. Definitely recommend getting some GP Products on the channel.

[@andyc8454]

Wow, Awesome job! Love all this information!

[@Jerry-zz2eu]

Great comparison. I would love to see how the Wright tool 4800 with pin stacks up. We use 1000's of 3/4" speed bolts to put gang forms together in bridge substructure work, and we only buy the Wrights. Maybe we can get something half the price that performs as well.

[@henrycarlson7514]

Interesting , Thank you .Thank You for testing so we can tell which to buy

[@ThatGuyInTheShed]

Another excellent vid, I'm keen to see more.

[@shawnw8707]

Very informative as always, thank you

[@haizi7179]

My god i love channels that are this analytic and concise !

[@alinutzalin6346]

Really liked this video. Would also be interested to see a 1/4 universal version.

[@richardwernst]

Great. I'd have liked to see torque comparison with adapter/sockets straight inline as well as a much higher angle, or angles to see differences the actual angle makes for the different adapter/sockets.

[@scatterbraintech]

I second the Sunex recommendation. I was using mine almost every day for a year before I got a swivel socket set and it held up great. I also have the 3/8 version I abused with my IR 2235 impact and it also never broke 😂

[@victorhoyt4352]

You should do a short video update on this video showing torque loss or gain on using a swivel socket vs. a swivel adapter with a socket. Thanks for the great content guys!!

[@stephendee7839]

I've been using some tekton ratcheting wrenches. They weren't the cheapest, but they are seriously good. I'm not at all surprised that this tekton product is good quality. I get the impression that they have decided to build out a brand reputation for high quality at reasonable prices. I couldn't be happier with them and I sincerely hope that they keep this up in the future.

[@jonathanreyes3832]

Love these videos ! They’re super helpful

[@lambodp]

Great video! Nice to see a good comparison between these different universals. The HF swivels just look sketchy at the low angle tested here. Imagine using them at full range. Yikes!

[@maxcarter3413]

Excellent study. Thanks!

[@andrewmacleod620]

Yes, I'd love to see a test of the universal sockets. I want to know if its worth it to invest in those, (from a torque standpoint, obviously there are other reasons to use them) over just using regular impact sockets with a universal adapter.

[@t_c5266]

this guy and Project Farm have the right idea. Just like I go to his channel for most tools/glues/etc I'll be coming here when its time to invest in this tooling.

[@k5guy]

Awesome test procedure. Subbed. Always wondered how much torque loss on these. So far I've been impressed with HF pinned style impact. Held up to a few burps with the Milwaukee 1400ft lb impact which surprised me.

[@Wolf.diesel]

I'd love to see a video talking about torque sticks and testing their accuracy. Especially the common brands like Napa etc.

[@danielsmith-ze3wy]

Thank for time you put in and info you give out great video

[@sage5296]

What a great channel- I've watched every single vid you've put out since I found the channel yesterday, it really is the Project Farm of torque wrenches! (A high compliment) Just a thought, but maybe the score sheets for the various categories could be made public somewhere, like if you just wanted to pull up one for quick reference. Keep up the amazing work!!

[@caspianbell9556]

Sunex has great impact sockets as well, I love the dual markings

[@johnamlin5681]

As an owner of mutiple japanese vechiles and small engines (tight work space) u joint swivels are a life saver. The fact they can get into almost any angle really saves the day. I usually only use 1/4 or 3/8 so I don't really break them

[@AaronHendu]

Get some uni joint sockets in common metric sizes...they are AMAZING if you work on imports, but amazing everywhere a socket+u joint cant fit.

[@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953]

I don't even use impact drivers, even for screws, but I love this channel 👍

[@steved10887]

Awesome video as usual! I’d be interested to see the accuracy of different torque sticks!! Or if they’re accurate at all?

[@jacobgroezinger1606]

That and how different between impact power affects the torque on same stick

[@flatheadvorhees]

I 2nd both of these.

[@briankirwan9588]

That would be a great video!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Might be a month or two based on the list we're working down. We'd need the torque stick type with a 1/2" drive end on both sides for this. You guys have an recommendations?

[@magnetboardable]

@@TorqueTestChannel there are quite a few on Amazon that aren’t that expensive. I think mine go from 60ft-lbs to 150ft-lbs.

[@yeders]

This channel is so good. So useful and scientific.

[@lloydhorn5450]

Definitely what we want to see!

[@riccardoarici]

really good quality vid...keep on!

[@sethat8e]

Definitely would like to see more of this.

[@irish03jmu]

Great video! I have become hooked on this channel and my wife doesn't quite understand. I would love to see you test how much torque is lost using a 1/2 to 3/8 or vice versa.

[@Joethetoolguy]

Yes! I've always wondered about this.

[@will104107]

great job guys love these videos, wish I had known you were doing this test I would have sent you a snap-on to add to the line up

[@TdrSld]

I have and love my Matco sets, I did notice that the way the GearWrench was made is WAY CHEAPER. My Matco has it's grooves through most of it's body, not 4 small points. And I have run these swivels since 2005 on a IR Platinum and Titanium 1/2" drive and a they're 3/8" drive haha Great Video!