It Just Keeps Getting Worse

[@wilhelmw3455]

Nigel Amos was a prince after winning the 800m silver medal at the 2012 Olympics but never the king.

[@thedailystride5407]

Facts. Talking a big game even though he never won the crown. Don’t get me wrong he was good but the 800 guys today are next level

[@synchronium24]

I'm surprised 2012 isn't the year Amos was alleged to cheat since he was never able to replicate that performance, despite being only 18 at the time.

[@thedailystride5407]

@@synchronium24 might just be because he didn’t get caught

[@synchronium24]

@@thedailystride5407 Could be. I just want to stick to what's proven so far, since that's bad enough.

[@Sough]

I'm just so glad it's clean now, it's not like a bunch of 143 and 144 guys ran 1:41 this year or anything😅

[@nooffencealan9135]

That's the shoes

[@BlueSoldier87]

That finals was insane

[@theperfecteraser5988]

@@nooffencealan9135the difference between something like the dragonfly and the air zoom victory 2 definitely isn’t enough to drop 2-3 seconds on an 800. And especially not the difference between the Air Zoom Victory 1 and 2. Hell, dozens of athletes have ran 1:41-42 before the dragonflies and other super spikes were invented.

[@robinbauer1975]

@@theperfecteraser5988 they aswell had dragonfly 2 protos and air yoom victory 2 in 2022 and 23 where they ran 1:45-43 now they all can break the wr somehow

[@MattAnyiwo]

We know a lot of guys were/are doping

[@khumokwezimashapa2245]

An 11 year ban is devious work

[@kovy689]

I’d be more surprised if anyone was natural.

[@likhayam]

​@@kovy689 bra!!!!

[@MarkRozema-v9m]

@@kovy689 The only rule is don't get caught.

[@kovy689]

@@MarkRozema-v9m Yup. Many slip through.

[@robinbauer1975]

Doping bans for Americans 0-2 years if even banned (knighton etc..) Europeans 3-4 years Kenyan 4-120 years

[@anonymousx3395]

lol

[@masterred8958]

Good one.

[@botgod_official6124]

something fishy is goin on. 😂😂😂😂

[@otienoodongo1790]

Nigerian 10-lifetime ban.

[@Anthonyjoshua-v2l]

Amos isn’t Kenyan 🙂

[@kovy689]

I’d be more surprised if anyone was natural.

[@abone2pick]

The guys that get smoked in the qualifying rounds maybe 😂

[@glenm99]

My uncle competed in the Olympics in 1988. He said everyone there knew who was doping, and often with what, and that we at home could tell who was clean in most events by looking at the bottom of the standings. And hey, most of the top athletes today are faster/stronger/better than the top athletes were then. Huh, weird.

[@jimmybondy9450]

​@@glenm99I know a guy who did 28:23 for 10000m in 1971. I'm sure he was clean, but then yes, he was "only" 11. In the Munich Olympics.

[@新型コロナは空事です]

Here's the thing, I would say, that since the 90s many junior athletes have been using muscle growth hormones to get an advantage at a young age. All it takes is recognition at a young age, and with the right training, coaching, backing, and sponsorship, you have a pro sports career from 18 onwards whether you make it to the top as an adult or not. I would say it is way more prevalent now in athletics, than ever before. There seem to be so many teenage athletes running times that would have made them olympic champions in the past, and even world record holders not so long ago. 🤔 It all seems too god to be true.

[@Langharig_Tuig]

Kinda this. When I was a teenager I competed at a high level and thus got a bit into the whole thing of international sports. Many people said that you should "Juice up" to the gills before you're 18 because you can get away with it so easily; and then hope you can stay in form and land a sponsorship.

[@brianbethune616]

He never had the throne

[@thedailystride5407]

lol good point. Silver was great but no throne to be had

[@LyntisMoten]

As a former track athlete, you have to say these things. Speak it into existence. If you don't believe it, it will not happen. However, in this instance, he's too old and has not raced in 3 years. It's not going to happen. BUT he has to believe it if he's going to do it.

[@lorenzoquirante8685]

Amos is so ballsy for saying he'd run down the 800 greats of this year, the king has been in exile is even funnier, but i love the energy

[@alansamuel2454]

He never was king.

[@elliotcosmas]

Watching Letsile has put than "envy" energy in him.

[@euphoricmisantropia]

It is not the innability to stay humble, what is he supposed to say? "yeah I´m comming back and I will perform poorly", like what??!! you come back and you go all out, mind and body

[@ska187]

Staying “humble” is just for outsiders to like you. It’s dumb. People see humility and humbleness as weakness. Sad

[@kagisogabonthone6980]

i like you , youre smart

[@squngy0]

He could just say he thinks he will do well and may the best man win. It is not just a choice between "throne" and perform poorly.

[@St.IrenaeusOfLyons]

Amos also missed an out-of-competition drug test in February 2015 after a doping control officer failed to locate him at his South African address.

[@synchronium24]

Almost every athlete has missed a drug test at some point. Indeed Nick Symmonds missed two in the same year, and he was almost certainly clean. I'm going to stick with the hard evidence that Amos was caught with a banned substance.

[@robinbauer1975]

I mean I admire his many injury and career set-backs he is already one of the all time greats for his great ability in paced races Tho he lacks tactics he ran only well in fast sub 1:43/42 races maybe this honest pace will suit him more I feel like him and tebogo are a quite similar Tebogo is the most talanted sprinter and amos is the most talented 800 runner of all time (WU20 Record, WU20 Title, many 400s in 44 seconds…) Tho tebogo actually does something with his raw talent amos seemingly just was very unfortunate, with that in mind always when I watch Tebogo run I hope he don’t go down amos path as being injuired 24/7

[@darpanbhuyan1909]

Its not a question of how well he performs because he's 31 but how well he does when off the JUICE! 🥤🥤🥤

[@payrysdoscs4903]

Bro is wilding. He probably won't make it out of the heats in Tokyo. He probably doped in '12 more than in '22 considering he's never gotten close to 101.73 since. He should take a page from Letsile and be honest with himself.

[@yxngflame7774]

Letsile doping???

[@payrysdoscs4903]

@@yxngflame7774 I meant Nijel should be honest with himself about his abilities like Letsile is

[@robinbauer1975]

He ran 1:41 in 2019

[@large23]

No one will ever run 101.73 bro

[@payrysdoscs4903]

@@large23 "101.73" means 101.73 seconds (aka 1min, 41.73secs).

[@Goku-el3lk]

I like that he's hungry for it if nothing else

[@SARTORISENDURANCE]

If bro says he’s gonna come back better I believe him. He’s adamant that how he was caught was foul play. This tells me he’s quite privy to the testing protocols, and how to avoid getting popped. This also implies he’s learned how to dope better than ever during his time away. If this is true he will be unstoppable if he runs PRs.

[@Kipchoge475]

Nigel is a fun guy, i'm rooting for him.hope he can pull of a decent comback even tho we know it'll take more than a miracle for him to go up against the current crop of top 800m runners and put up good competition😂

[@jellymulder]

"like Jon Snow" 🤣🤣🤣

[@Satoshi-Sin_Shinichi]

😅

[@dobianuli2742]

That’s a peptide, Amos shouldn’t be banned for that

[@jaro6985]

huh, what about HGH stimulating peptides? testosterone simulating peptides?

[@angusatkins-trimnell2784]

Not just coming back with his pre-ban shape, but since he was doping before, if he's clean now, that's another challenge.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

He won't be clean, just like everyone else. He may be more conservative or pick better PEDs to test negative with though

[@duncanharvey2209]

Lots of challenges for sure however he DOES get magic shoes now....

[@stalin1909]

Maybe His confidence stems from something Else. Perhaps he Got his Hands on a newer GW1517, Which won’t be detectable in the foreseeable seeable Future!!

[@robinbauer1975]

He dominated the DL circuit is a great 800 athlete with the fastest 400m time of 800 guys BUT he never put in a complete season since 2012 I really like that you made a video about him man this is grrat please keep us up with stuff like this Peak TRP

[@alansamuel2454]

Korir is another great 400/800 guy but he's also been sort of off for some years now that it seems he's not likely to feature

[@kagisogabonthone6980]

im from Botswana and another fun fact is that , this guy was partying a lot between 2013 and 2017 he was drinking and was also a dj , it might have led to him not being yk.............................

[@mostovndiaye4795]

Every time I see Amos, he reminded me the 2012 final 800m where he was struggling with his running mechanics! 😂😂😂

[@carsongambaro]

4:52 very clever writing TRP

[@FrenchiKO]

Do you see what i see, i mean the conditions, no wonder that some resort to cheating at some point, you eventually get banned but you aren't forced to go back to where you come from. I do not agree with such a choice but i can understand it.

[@rahulbarca4112]

Those claims are wild. Test him again after world championship😂

[@veganpotterthevegan]

TRP will never recogize that everyone fast is on PEDs

[@pukulu]

yes, it seems that running the 800 in 1:45 is about the best that can be expected from someone coming off of a 3 year ban, even if he's run under 1:42 in the past.

[@dbracer]

Phew, nice to see that he's been humbled by his ban. completely repentant.

[@brianmaloney45]

London was a loooong time ago.

[@goodfractalspoker7179]

How can he come back stronger as if we all won’t be looking at him with a side eye if he wins anything? He acts like he’s coming back from an injury and not cheating.

[@ThomasRedmond-q8q]

It's a shame so many athletes are doping nowadays, but its also hard to draw the line with new training techniques and advances in gear, how do they decide what is illegal and what is legal?

[@honeybonnie7717]

the way you said 30 years... man I felt destroyed

[@chuck636]

I wonder if Bolt will ever be caught. I sense a similar story to Lance Armstrong’s in a couple decades time and it’ll all come out. If this is true I really fear how bad this will be for track and field

[@brantnuttall]

Well, if he does win it will be his last race because there's is no way that you can come back after 3 years out and run faster than you ever have before. Then the next ban will be in place.

[@allgasnobrakes123]

I think he will win some meets. He may even win the world championship. There is no way he is naturally going to improve his personal best 12 years later.

[@broccoloodle]

doping ban should be lifetime 😡

[@PerryScanlon]

Well if they haven't been testing him during his ban, then he could come back really fast...

[@atribonatural]

Where do we get to watch your podcast on this channel?

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

2:22 Tokyo 2021 400m hurdles final > London 2012 800m final

[@danvalicek]

Anyone who cheats does not do the sport for themselves, but solely to impress others.

[@HelloImDavid1000]

Don't feel bad they're on it, feel bad if you're naiive enough to think anyone at the top is clean.

[@NelleBligh333]

Amos has been out of comp for 3 years and his PB isn't recent, i dont think he has a hope against the currrent crop of 800m guys at least in his first season. I honestly thought hed retired when the ban hit. You should do a companion video about Shelby Houlihan who's another middle distance runner coming back from a 3 year doping ban in 2025.

[@Xx-po1fu]

At 31 yrs old and without PED Amos days as a top runner are over.

[@giz02]

Figures you wouldn't mention Coleman ducking out on doorbell rings.. Multiple whereabouts violations

[@MattAnyiwo]

You can’t be the “King” with 0 Championship wins in a 10+ Year Career 🥲

[@Ryanrene]

You've been able to get Cardarine delivered to your door from the regular web since at leas 2015. It's be more impressive to hear one of these guys just say, yeah. I doped, but I'm working hard to get back naturally. Lying off the bat tells me he's just going to dope in a different way now.

[@diegomardones6651]

I always thought Nigel Amos was likely doped before the 2023 olimpics.

[@onlineo2263]

So my guess is he doesn't get tested when he is banned, so maybe he has doped up as high as you can go, and is currently smashing world records in training. If this is the case he will clean himself up before he comes back and hope he still has some of the drug gains. What do you think to this possibility?

[@MarcelloAntestaco]

Great talent, terrible management, the guy is delusional and thinks he was set up for the ban when he was probably ignorant about what he was taking. After that one great Olympic final, he never had a race that was comparable in terms of how he handled the effort. He usually started super fast and would crash and burn at the 600m mark. Unless he's learned that lesson and is able to control his own pace properly in the first 400m, I struggle to believe he can compete at a medal level with the current top performers

[@seb16x2110]

WADA please get Knighton next

[@Crooked_Clown]

Every time I hear the name of Sydney McLaughlin, she reminds me of Marion Jones

[@squngy0]

If he is a doper, then he could have doped all the more during his ban and accumulated an ungodly amount of fitness. Even if he now stops doping and competes clean, the fitness gained while doping will remain to an extent and give him an advantage.

[@rayrichardson8728]

Not ogaybare she was my favorite sprinter....another one bites the dust.

[@JohnstonNyarega]

We don't talk about cheats....let him rest!

[@beboshi69]

Let's say we get AI involved in drug testing, to spot biomarker patterns for dopers that we haven't noticed yet. If it was 90% successful at spotting even the most cautious of dopers, what % of Olympic finalists would you expect to be caught? My guess is over 50%.

[@timothywood9990]

shelly ann fraser price doesn't run under 10.7 in her twenties and then in 2022 at 34yrs old starts running 10.67 and have multiple races under 10.7 very suspicious!!

[@Editor-dt6sq]

Arop will break Rudisha's record in Tokyo. Take this to the bank.

[@DHcycling]

Divine and Blessing? why didnt god help them win instead of using science to cheat. their god must be weak or dont care about them 🤣

[@lastgiddon]

You are missing the point. He thought those drugs were DIVINE and she also thought she was receiving BLESSINGS from the drugs. Why else were their performances being enhanced.

[@Car.V1]

Don't insult God like that. It's not like God himself chose their names.

[@mikec3756]

The narrator/producer seems more offended by Amos' braggadocio than the fact that he's a drug cheat.

[@stuffbenlikes]

Enhanced Games!

[@pete5691]

Did it happen?

[@TheColdViking]

I would not be surpriced that he is using insane amount of doping to build a foundation in the background while he is serving his ban, and is going off the doping now in order to be "clean" the day his ban is over, thus having an insane comback that will make a lot of people suspicious. The other thing is that he was in a situation where he didn't have so much to loose when it comes to doping, because he was in his late twenties, meaning that his natural condition had peaked and he knew it. So the only time that doping is defensible is when you are over 25 years old, and you know that you have peaked, and your are close enaugh for a podium in a championschip that doping would make a podium possible. Then it's kinda okay, but before 25, then you need to see if you can improve on your performance naturally, or even switch sport to some sport that the carryover of skills is so good that you can make a nice carrer there in stead. So doping is the last resort when all else have been tried.

[@DizzyDiddy]

But doping is still against the rules regardless of age. It's just not okay to use it to gain a competitive edge, even if you're starting to age past your prime. That's just a lousy excuse to rationalize it.

[@64offsuiter]

11 years. well that is a deterrent. The tales from Amos re: missing passports, foul play sounds like nothing more that whataboutery and distraction. Guilty plea = guilty

[@ThomasRedmond-q8q]

Who thinks the suppliers are just as much to blame as the athletes?

[@themommyprotocol3498]

Shortly after haha

[@jollymolly2521]

Forget Amos - what's going on with Donovan Brazier? When he is he coming back? Amos never had the throne. He couldn't even beat Brazier when it counted.

[@alansamuel2454]

Not likely he'll come back I think. Pretty disappointing to be honest after he did good in the 1500m also and that 600m etc.

[@namits3775]

Doping should be ban for life

[@plantB23]

"People say anything to remain relevant "

[@jeffreypatterson8645]

What is the fastest animal in the world ?

[@AnthonyBate]

Do they continue to test while you're banned? If not, couldn't he be juicing the whole time and return with residual gains?

[@iliachakarov7285]

On that note, is it possible that Bolt, Lyles, Tebogo and Kishane are on roids?. That's the ones I'm most interested in

[@alansamuel2454]

Lyles if on stuff is failing big time lol. Ain't etting the clean sheets he should be if he is. His consistency outside major competitions is pretty insane though that it makes roids not likely in my opinion. The others I can't say anything. Interestingly enough, all of the other sprinters top 10 in the 100m besides Bolt had some case or the other. Bolts name was never even smeared or had any accusations against him as far as I know.

[@eunicepadilla4355]

😢😢😢

[@Gerhard2770]

Delusions of grandeur😂

[@Tee95145]

I don't get the point of doping if the goal is to be the best. You can't feel like the best if you cheat your way there.

[@auroraborayelisR2D2]

He sounds like Black Panther.

[@CharlesOffdensen]

GW1516 - so Cardarine? Is that on the ban list? Maybe it wasn't widely available in 2007, but SINCE then, it has become. I still doubt how much it helps you with cardio and endurance, it kind of does the opposite of meldonium, and we know meldonium works. So if meldonium helps, and GW does the opposite, it shouldn't help? I don't know, I haven't tried it.

[@Pothead888]

Majeed7k is a Huge BattiBoy

[@tatopolosp]

I hate the clock bait titles 😞😞😞

[@nicholasintrepidity5073]

1:39 easily

[@haroldblevins8567]

Theyre all doping. Its just whos caught.

[@SrhLun]

I saw a really good video on KZbin about Olympic doping for sprinters. The Olympics actually allow doping for certain levels of testosterone..not sure about other substances..some athletes are actually dumb enough to exceed the allowed doping limits and that's when they get into trouble. And since Olympics allows some form of doping or PED, guess what? No athlete is going to pass up that advantage. This is why people actually think that Bolt is "clean"..he dope like everyone else, just within the allowance

[@09darkzlj5]

Big fan of your channel but do you honestly believe any of the top 5 best track/road athletes are clean? Bolt was never ‘caught’ because if it got release he was dirty, the sport would be finished

[@Sweet_Tooth_Art]

Please please change the thumbnail. That mans junk is FULLY visible 😅

[@darthsilversith667]

Dude who was doping to get to the top thinks he is “the king of the 800”.. when he doesn’t even have a global gold medal I don’t think and is far from the WR lol if he does manage to be competitive again.. it will only be because he has a better doping program now.

[@joshuasmith1215]

Yeah that Eric dude doesn't look like someone who would do some sh*t like that...

[@tlamelokgosimalebe3119]

You forgot Randolph Ross

[@emma.bridgeforth]

trp is the GOAT 🙌🙌

[@nathanenns]

Hubris. Careful. 😂

[@r_unner_G]

He'll be washed up at 31 now, but good luck to him.

[@gordonbenjamin3570]

Look at the 400m Women Runner Nassa she came back and did not fairly but good! So it’s possible he can do good.

[@robbie2002]

No way. He could do 42.

[@RyuBlaze24]

Wait he has no senior titles lol king??

[@ericerian1811]

Another serious problem, I m afraid. International?

[@quinsrugby1411]

I’m just gonna go against the grain here and say I don’t care who’s using and who’s not,. If they need to make two divisions like they have in bodybuilding and these people want to push their bodies and their health to unnatural limits I’m all for it.

[@davidtydeman1434]

Athletics is a route out of poverty for many as you don’t need a lot of equipment to run. Where there is huge pressure to win there is huge incentive to cheat. I applaud the efforts of WADA to take doping seriously with Biological Passports and whereabouts requirements as all athletes are damaged by those who cheat

[@seb16x2110]

"I took PED's because I lost my passport" these dope head excuses always crack me up

[@boulderliving]

6:52

[@alexbjork2751]

😱😱

[@michaelp8856]

i had no idea these runners were doing dope. sad

[@elvay6847]

The FIRST thing I want to see, not the last, are frauds being exposed. For years we had to hear about how 'superior' these athletes were, and as it turns out, they aren't so special after all. Next, we need to see the sponsors exposed for funding it. You may call that speculation or even a conspiracy theory. To that, I simply say, "wait." 😉

[@cloudbudget]

We will see how he does soon enough. He was a great runner and still is world class, but his story is nonsense. The truth is much more simple. Likely Amos was frustrated that he could not reach another peak and turned to help out of frustration. He chose that specific drug as he thought it would be obsure enough to not be tested for (probably got this advice), but he got caught. His running has fueled his ego for many years so he has chosen to believe his own crazy conspiracy theory (who would possibly benefit from feaming him? - no one). And so he now hopes for recaptured glory. We will see if he can do it, but as great as he was, he never had the King's crown to begin with. Close though.