Pagan Trinity Church Doctrine Exposed! -Rabbi Tovia Singer

[@LoreneRaeWard]

Todah Rabah Rabbi Tovia Singer! This is so great,!

[@Vilnagaon-ish]

Chag sameach to all my beautiful Jews, Jewesses and Noachides

[@Hadassah-q4z]

Thank you Rabbi Singer. Your teaching have deeply impacted my Jewish soul.

[@SilviaSumberaz1]

All Christianity is a big confusion!!! Great topic, bless you ❤

[@geoffreyk6229]

I am a Xtian and I don't think I am confused. What is confusing about the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit? All of these are in the Old Testament.

[@mikealioto6228]

Why?

[@mikealioto6228]

@@geoffreyk6229 Yes they are. Who hovered over the waters in Genesis? Who walked in the garden of Eden with Adam and Eve?

[@AriaDhani-mm7yl]

Just a doomsday cult

[@ProTato-vz6wp]

without christianity there is no israel now

[@j.lsantos9106]

B'H All praise to Hashem our Heavenly father Almighty Let's get biblical

[@AdaraBalabusta]

Baruch Hashem! Let’s!

[@therighteousrighthand]

Amen Amen...all in the Name of Yeshua.

[@leom6343]

​@@therighteousrighthand monotheits directly pray to God. They don't need someone between God Almighty and them.

[@geoffreyk6229]

​@@leom6343Then you don't need the Messiah and the prophets of Old.

[@User-x5s3x]

​​@@geoffreyk6229: You have a MAJOR misunderstanding of the purpose of the Jewish Messiah. Unlike the Christian 'Messiah', the Jewish Messiah absolutely does NOT 'save people from their sins', he fulfilled ZERO prophecies and NOWHERE did God ever mention the "Jesus" character to us in the ETERNAL Hebrew scriptures, given to Moses at Mt. Sinai. PLEASE do some ACTUAL HONEST research on this subject, and learn from the Orthodox Rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11. In the absence of the Temple, the Rabbis are our spiritual teachers, since they (and ONLY THEY!!) have been studying the original Hebrew scriptures all the way back to Mt. Sinai.

[@helenshort5943]

Thank you for all your work Rabvi Warmest thoughts. Helen

[@red2thebone]

Thank you rabbi tovia a pleasure hearing you as always keeping you in my prayers may HaShem keep blessing you with strength to keep bringing the truth!

[@SilviaSumberaz1]

Thank you ❤

[@mooshei8165]

The trinity is the most confusing pagan doctrine.

[@christopherdaffron8115]

Yeah, it should be called the Holy pretzel because it's so twisted up. Very confusing.

[@vincentfernandez7328]

@@christopherdaffron8115 the trinity is just a theological hipótesis or theory. The word trinity is not in the New Testament. Jesus never used that word.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

It's also the most ridiculous. It's like a bad compromise between monotheism and polytheism while claiming monotheism and justifying it by using hocus pocus words.

[@mooshei8165]

I don’t even understand, how they can understand it, when they don’t even understand it themselves and say it’s a mystery.

[@mooshei8165]

Like the guy from inspiring philosophy

[@jimeaton805]

Why would Jesus say Why have you forsaken me if the trinity is true

[@aviel9998]

lol

[@dontreplyback1]

A lot of words are put in Jesus mouth.. that’s psalm 22:2 😂

[@AdaraBalabusta]

@@dontreplyback1Yes, whoever wrote the “gospels” stole a lot of material from the Tanach.

[@geoffreyk6229]

​​@@AdaraBalabustaThe Gospels were written by witnesses of Jesus Christ just like the Old Testament. Witnesses in both in the Old and New Testaments.

[@geoffreyk6229]

​@@AdaraBalabustaNot really. The Jews wrote the New Testament.

[@ForeverTruthVV]

In Exodus 4 G-d tells us who His Firstborn Son is.... Listen carefully... 21 Adonai said to Moshe, “When you get back to Egypt, make sure that you do before Pharaoh every one of the wonders I have enabled you to do. Nevertheless, I am going to make him hardhearted, and he will refuse to let the people go. 22 Then you are to tell Pharaoh: ‘Adonai says, “Isra’el is my firstborn son. 23 I have told you to let my son go in order to worship me, but you have refused to let him go. Well, then, I will kill your firstborn son!”’”

[@danceslob6211]

Yes. That's why the Messiah and Israel are used interchangeably in Isaiah 53. Try to get a deeper level of scriptural understanding.

[@miYAH-w1q]

🤍👑 No one can play games with I AM .

[@Amrdm4cn]

@@ForeverTruthVV another person taking a few sentences to prove a narrative. Keep reading....watch where it leads you! The scriptures speak for themselves if you are willing to learn

[@NaiveTeacher]

Who is God calling Son in Psalm 2:7? Israel? When did God beget David? Psalm 2 speaks about God's Son and Messiah.

[@marybeck7594]

​@@NaiveTeacherhe is speaking about David, read 2 Samuel 3:18.

[@hughb5092]

Back when I used to be a Christian I really struggled with the Trinity, it just doesn't make any sense.

[@bubblegumgun3292]

"God is not the author of confusion"

[@AdaraBalabusta]

Contrast that mumbo-jumbo with the G’d of the Tanach.

[@geoffreyk6229]

​​@@bubblegumgun3292True, but who knows all the things about God?

[@DroriShmueli]

It does if you watch CAESAR'S MESSIAH ONLINE

[@DroriShmueli]

Or CREATING CHRIST ONLINE

[@crucible4silver]

I love your programs. But how can we submit questions?

[@المرتدالفخور]

Getting close to 100k subscribers

[@milkamilosevic9626]

Yes indeed,soon soon,we will celebrate with rabbi!👍🎉💙

[@NaiveTeacher]

Tovia did Messiah pre-exist in Daniel 7:13-14, how does he approach the Father with the clouds? Humans can't do that by themselves

[@geoffreyk6229]

I prefer Rabbi Taylor Pinchas! I am beginning to like this Rabbi but I am still uncertain about him.

[@leom6343]

​@@NaiveTeacher Elija is in heaven. Enoch is in heaven. Daniel 7 13 actually shows the Messiah is not God, because the ancient of days is God..These are 2 different beings.

[@NaiveTeacher]

@@leom6343 God took both to heaven, Messiah comes close to the Ancient of Days with the clouds, humans can't do that, if you don't believe me try it some time. The Lord sits at the right hand of God, he is the Lord's strong Hand, his mighty Arm, do you think it is mere coincidence that God's Arm is described having the same qualities of the Messiah? Righteous, bringing salvation, justice, redemption... Jesus said it, he revealed what was hidden to the world yet you don't understand a thing. How does Isaiah 53 start?

[@GE7274]

B"H. Thank you Rabbi.

[@gebox2637]

Only one great and glorious G-D. So grateful Hashem found me and brought me into his peace.

[@Kalibobo-w2o]

You are unique Rabbi Tovia. Standing with you and Israel 🇮🇱 forever. Shalom from South Pacific.

[@Crowfeather-v5o]

I am disappointed in my compulsive repetitive behavior I used to be tobacco free for years and then I said to myself only one menthol just only this time .😢 Yet ... I know that I must make the effort like the fast day .😊 you are in touch with everyone who watches your face and perceive the real real good news that Hashem Alone is KING .😊

[@randalbarrantesvargas680]

Beautiful video!!... that's exactly the world need!!... truth's time!!...all the books will be open until appears the Golden Chest with Beauty inside!!

[@rekhavirik6343]

God is One. You are correct. Thank you Rabbi. ❤

[@NaiveTeacher]

Why does he condemn Christians for believing in God's own right hand (Messiah) and believes in the god of the Muslim? That's the actual paganism.

[@Apocryphille1970Godselect]

One is a unity it takes more than one to make a unity

[@Matthew_Scan]

The Jesus/ God thing is like a Facebook relationship it’s complicated. I’m confused as a Christian, Jesus constantly refers to the father, and when someone called him perfect he said why do you call me perfect , no one is perfect but God , but then he says I am in the father and the father is in me

[@ahciaamber]

It's called word play, I'll use the 2 person's example for context. Let's say I'm a father, and I'm a great questionable person, as a father I could be good to my kids, and as a husband I could be terrible as a parent. Figure out the riddle, it's called selective preferences. Aka I'm only perfect when I feel like it (or am praying to idolatry after getting drunk with some blood covenant wine) and then afterwards I'm magical forgiven after i sober up from my blackout and become a miracle worker without divine powers. Makes sense???? You're perfect when you're drunk, and your normal when you're sober. In the spirit vs in the flesh or something. I don't know.

[@geoffreyk6229]

Jesus referred to God as the only perfect being because he knew they didn't know about him. What is wrong with what he said? Wouldn't you say the same thing or what would you say if you were Jesus?

[@ahciaamber]

@@geoffreyk6229 Jezeus sounds like jezebel, jezevus Christ could have just said first commandment and not play a word game. But cult leaders always like to spin the mediation around towards their favor. So of course you need a doorstopper to get past the trolls toll

[@ahciaamber]

@@geoffreyk6229 as for what is wrong with that many persons concept. In 1800 years. No one has figured it out yet. That's what's wrong. It shouldn't take 1800 years to prove 1=1 first commandment= first commandment. Meaning Jesus sounds like he wants to waste humanities time with a silly mysterious riddle that only the holy Spirit can tell you how 3=1 without any rules involved as guidelines to decipher the truth, if the truth is 1=1 But 1+0+0=1 What does it all mean???? If you want to waste my time????

[@ShamaraSer]

@@geoffreyk6229 You’re better at explaining stuff than the Jesus character. Why is that? You’d think someone who was the son of the Creator, would be able to make sense. (Just saying!)

[@f.364]

Thank you very much

[@emersonschmidt7882]

Here in Brazil, some of us used to say in the 70s/80s that the trinity was like a Gradiente brand stereo: You could listen to the radio, play records or K-7. The famous three in one...

[@davidhayes1124]

May ur father be blessed in a very beautiful recovery

[@therighteousrighthand]

Peace of Jesus Christ be with all who seek righteousness Our Rabbi Yeshua has revealed the Father to us and now the ends of the earth worship Hashem. Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord.

[@MadeiraFonseca]

Jesus is not real; he's right up there with Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, and the Easter Bunny.

[@paulbartlett1212]

L-rd bless you, Rabbi. I am always amazed at your knowledge of Christian doctrine and how it can be false.

[@ismaelmahmud6094]

Simple no need to complicate or use fancy words. Totally agree 👍

[@davidevans9992]

Thank you, Rabbi. Please be careful with those wireless earbuds. Make sure the radiation is at a safe level for you, and keep your ears clean and dry.

[@ToviaSinger1]

Thank you ~ Shalom

[@NaiveTeacher]

Have you deleted my comments? That's not nice.

[@davidevans9992]

@@NaiveTeacher ?

[@NaiveTeacher]

@@davidevans9992 I asked Tovia about Psalm 110:5 here where the adoni which is at the right hand of God gets called Adonay (which is a title exclusive for God) and my message got deleted out of the blue.

[@NaiveTeacher]

@@ToviaSinger1 Will you answer Tovi? I won't delete my messages if that's your excuse not to do it.

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

The Church elevated Jesus to the deity status following the example of honors bestowed on Caesar and Augustus, and a long tradition of semi-gods in the Greco-Roman culture. This is what people of the empire wanted. This is what they got. There is nothing in the New Testament about it, because it preceded the invention of the Trinitarian doctrine. It is only in the 4th century (300s) that the doctrine found its way to the Nicene Creed of 325 CE. Even so, the Arians would have none of it, and they did not go away following the First Council. Arianism persisted, especially amongst Vandals and Visigoths of North Africa until it was subsumed in Islam eventually.

[@AdaraBalabusta]

I was asked by YT to rate your comment! I gave your comment the highest rating. 😇

[@AdaraBalabusta]

Yes, Islam is Arian xtianity, plus a bit of Torah, plus Muhammad’s odd personal philosophies.

[@geoffreyk6229]

Have you read the New Testament?

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

@@geoffreyk6229 Yes, but you should understand that the books we consider canonical today did not become so until the fourth century. In the meantime there was an explosion of literary activity about Jesus with countless stories invented, most of which the church rejected in due course. Of the canonical Gospels the Johannite books, which stand apart from the rest anyway, get closest to the idea of the Trinity but do not state it explicitly. For this the Christendom had to wait until Tertullian (155-200 CE), but in his idea Jesus and the Holy Ghost were still subordinate to the Father.

[@therighteousrighthand]

It is Hashem who elevated Yeshua. David said "the Lord said to my Lord" or "The Lord said to my master". David knew Yeahua is His master.

[@richardhallaj1907]

One thing[among others] is why no one states that the NT is a collections of homiles and not prophecy and they try to make it the word of God.

[@NaiveTeacher]

Because the NT carries historic information, perfectly aligns with Tanakh to the point of unveiling things which your rabbis can't comprehend to this day. Like the Messiah was expected to perform miracles, open blind eyes, confirm feeble knees, be the light (a light to the Gentiles), be at the right hand of the Father (as Psalm 110:5 clearly tells you), so on and so forth.

[@ezzafive9271]

The Christians I know don’t even care about the mistakes in the New Testament. They say that their relationship with JC is all that matters and that he loves them. I never know what to say to that.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Tell them to keep the 7 Noahide laws.

[@NaiveTeacher]

What are those mistakes?

[@ezzafive9271]

@@NaiveTeacher too many to list. Rabbi Tovia’s videos talk about them all the time. Some examples: the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is most certainly Israel if you read the other verses. The NT says 75 people went with Jacob to Egypt when the Torah (OT) says 70. The NT gives a long genealogy list of Joseph and then says he’s not JC’s father. There are countless others.

[@ezzafive9271]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 but they don’t care about these things. That’s my point. They only care about JC and their idol worship.

[@MadeiraFonseca]

@@NaiveTeacher You can't even get past Matthew chapter 1 without finding serious errors: The gospel of Mathew was written anonymously. The writer does not identify himself anywhere in the text and writes in the third person. The writer does not claim to be an eyewitness. There is uncertainty as to the language Mathew was written in; extant texts are in Greek, but Shem Tob’s Hebrew Gospel of Mathew may be the oldest extant copy. (See “Hebrew Gospel of Mathew” by George Howard) Mat. 1:17 says the Generations are 14, 14, and 14, but if you count them in Mat. 1 they are 14, 14, and 13. Mat. 1:11-12 says Jesus came through the lineage of Jeconias, but Jaconiah was cursed in Jer. 22:30 and was told NONE of his descendants would sit on the throne of David. Mat. 1 Omits four people listed in Solomon’s lineage in 1 Chron. 3:11-15 to try and make the math come out right. (Ahaziah, Jehoash, Amaziah, and Jehoiakim) Mat. 1:23 mis-translates Isa. 7:14 which actually says a young woman (Hebrew almah) not a virgin (Hebrew betulah) The sign being given was given to King Ahaz to be fulfilled in his lifetime. The same prophecy includes a verifiable promise: (vs. 16) “…the land of the two kings whom you fear (Rezin and Pekah) will be abandoned.” 2 Kings 16:9 records the death of Rezin (732 B.C.) 2 Kings 15:30 records the death of Pekah (732 B.C.) So that prophecy was fulfilled in 732 B.C. Numbers 1:2 - Lineage is through paternal lineage, not by adoption.

[@steveclark8538]

TY Tovia !

[@carstenmanz302]

This was an idea of ​​early 2nd century Hellenistic-Alexandrian bishops, influenced by Platonic "ideas"/metaphysics. The concept then spread everywhere, but it also caused heated controversy for a long time. Almost all Christian dogmas originally come from Egypt/North Africa, Syria and today's Türkiye (Eastern Rome/Byzantine). The immense influences of Platonic and later Alestotle philosophy on early and medieval Christianity have led to many erroneous views/concepts. However, the old religious dogmas are now being interpreted differently, at least by Western Christianity; a clear distinction is usually made between God and Jesus. Many dogmatic religious disputes also had to do with personal or political power interests, but that was no different in historical Judaism.

[@AdaraBalabusta]

You are correct, in the main, in your historical information. The hierarchy of the idolatrous church is no comparison to the rectification of doctrinal disputes in Judaism, even in the time of the Sanhedrin.

[@Swordoftruth289]

Jevvs and Greeks have been exchanging idea on philosophy for a very long time, since the yahwists. Much of judaistic philosophy comes from other groups. Let's not forget that.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

I call it the three musketeers.

[@samfromisrael]

Vespasian, Titus, and Domitian.....

[@a.m204]

Baruch HaShem for Rabbi Tovia Singer

[@donindri]

Great video for me. Very timely, almost finished reading about the trinity in let’s get Biblical. I love the smoking analogy here. When I first smoked as a teenager, I choked, but wanting to become like my friends, I kept trying. Eventually I didn’t choke and I got some enjoyment. Very much like early indoctrination to christianity. So many things I had questions or concerns about, figured it was because I had original sin and was too stupid to understand. I bet that’s what some priests told altar boys when they were abusing them. Thanks for all you do.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

If you are a Gentile, you are obligated to keep the 7 Noahide laws.

[@Abdulkarim-v8s]

Rabbi, i want u to show this to Christians❤️😊

[@dontreplyback1]

Just because Jesus was apparently made from the substance of the Father doesn’t make him the father.. my son comes from my substance lol.. is that son of mine now me? No. 😂

[@Michael-vp9gs]

Polytheists at heart, really trying hard to smell and appear as a Monotheist.

[@stephenfisher3721]

This is one of most interesting videos from Tovia Singer that I've watched. My questions are so fundamental to Christianity that I don't understand how modern Christians don't consider these questions. As a student of history I am well aware that the early church fathers discussed points of theology and had different councils like the Council of Nicea but when I talk to the Evangelical Protestants who try to convert me they don't know anything at all about these Church fathers and in fact will dismiss them as being Roman Catholics and emphatically distinguish themselves from them. Growing up as a Jew it seemed simple to me that Christians have added another God, a son, but since they did have the Father I considered them having the same God and the books that I read classified Judaism, Christianity, and Islam as the three grest monotheistic religions. On the internet it is emphasized by Christians that Jesus is God and that Jesus is found in the Old Testament and that when God encountered people in the Old Testament that was Jesus but I do not find this when I read the Old Testament; it clearly seems like God the Father. Reading the New Testament does not make one feel that Jesus is fully man and fully God but rather only a man or perhaps another lessor God. I am Jewish and in high school in 1973 under evangelical pressure I accepted the Christian challenge to read the New Testament. However reading the New Testament did not bring me to Christ as they hoped but actually had the opposite effect. Reading the New Testament gave me many questions and I also saw how the New Testament could easily be taken against Jews. In context it is one group of Jews against another group of Jews but most Christians are going to read that Bible as the Jews being the enemies so in truth the New Testament is very anti-Semitic. All the Christians love to say that the New Testament is so nice and loving and loving to Jews especially but I did not find it that way. I ask questions but Christians never give me real answers, it is always have faith, believe, pray to God and the truth will come to you, God is able to do anything, or it's a miracle or a mystery.

[@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388]

Even the New Testament is written by Jews predominantly to Jews; it ends with the King of Israel reigning from Jerusalem until He ushers the Sabbath for mankind

[@keitumetsemodipa3012]

I don't know, when I read the New Testament I wonder how people don't draw to God, what exactly makes your experience otherwise?

[@samfromisrael]

*_GayZEUS_* of the Synoptic Gospels is a literary character invented by the Romans to promote the recent arrival of the Flavian dynasty to imperial power, creating an archetype of messiah towards which all preexisting Jewish prophecies converged. The aim was (1) to empty Jewish concepts, hijacking the messianic hope and solidifying a controversial archetype of Jewish messiah, (2) to blame the Jews for their own destruction in the war of Jerusalem in 70 and (3) to exalt the Flavian dynasty of emperors. The content of the message propagated by the characters in the narrative portrays an agenda of political accommodation, preservation of the imperial “status quo”, anti-Judaism and military indoctrination: both for Roman soldiers and for colonized civilians. Soldiers are often the recipients of the teachings of the Gospels, which occur both explicitly (as in Luke 3:14, when John the Baptist recommends that soldiers be content with their pay, just as Rome advised those recruited for military service) and implicitly (as in Luke 9:23, when the instruction is given to abandon everything - family, friends, work - and follow the leader, just as the government wanted the soldiers to do). There is also abundant teaching reinforcing the civil obligation to serve soldiers, including obeying them for twice the amount required (Matthew 5:41). The character Jesus always presents himself as the reformer of the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:38, correcting Exodus 21:24 on the principle of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”) and the propagator of various Roman laws (as in Mark 10:12 on marriage and in Matthew 22:21 recommending the payment of taxes). Jesus never taught his disciples to love Jews or their relatives, but he *_did teach them to love Romans (Matt. 5:44) and to turn the other cheek (Matt. 5:39). The Flavian Theory, therefore, not only presents a coherent argument for the literary origins of Jesus, but also highlights the Romans' ability to use religion as a tool of sociopolitical control. *_Some of the most enigmatic passages found in the gospels are more easily understood when seen through the eyes of a general speaking to his legions._* *I had an insipid deplorable two faced Greek woman admit to all of it proudly in these comment boards awhile ago, very sickening.* 🤮🤮🤮

[@ATL_Transparency_News]

Faith is the answer that is uasually given. But god speaks to us in a way we understand always.

[@thehumanjesus]

Do you have a list of all known plural forms for the word adon, e.g., like adonim?

[@baldeagle-cq2jl]

According to Prof. Bart Ehrman,the doctrine of the Trinity is not based on the kind of logic we normally use,because normally, if we have three apples we don't say we have one apple,it required very deep philosophical thought to be developed on the basis of certain philosophical constructs from Greek philosophy,concepts to what it means to be a person,what it means to be a substance,what the essence of something is and these Greek concepts were not available to the authors of the New Testament,even Paul.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

The belief in a divine trinity is an idolatrous concept, since it is a belief that God (or according to some, a second separate divinity) has characteristic features, and the characteristics of a body.

[@mikejurney9102]

The rabbi is suggesting that there will be no man sitting on a thrown in the temple of God in the messianic age. But there are scriptures that say that there will. Isaiah 6:1-3 describes a person sitting on a thrown and wearing a robe in the temple of God. And only a man can sit and wear a robe. Jeremiah 3:16-17 also says that the ark of the covenant will be replaced with a throne (that is something only a human can sit on). Ezekiel 43:2-4 descibes the "glory of the Lord" finally entering the temple of the Lord. And he describes this glory in chapter 1 as a son of man sitting on a sapphire throne. And Daniel 7:13-14 predicts a son of man given glory and sovereign power over all people in the Presences of the Lord that exists where, in the temple of God, of course.

[@filledenoe9400]

kavod harav, Messianic Jews often use the term Rabbi to refer to Jesus. Can you tell us if this term is appropriate or not at all? THANKS

[@NaiveTeacher]

15:53 it does, totally agree at least with this comment, it uses simple language in Psalm 110:5, the Lord that sits at the right of the Father, who needs to trust people with fancy titles when the Tanakh itself is clear enough?

[@gershonperry5952]

Amen sella

[@cantcomprehend1]

Rav... can we please stop talking about cigarettes... I like to smoke and I don't wanna know whats in it !!!.🤣... But I LOVE HaShem and you're spot on about everything... I'm blessed because you're blessed.. toda raba

[@ferhatiofpersia6144]

Exactly, trinity is unbiblical, which is why Paul kept calling it " a hidden mystery ". It's a huge admission in its own right.. God bless our dear rabbi 🙏

[@jeffstewart1668]

I believe there's at least three scriptures that God made him in the New Testament

[@NaiveTeacher]

Messiah is hidden in God's quiver to put the wise to shame.

[@lastsupperapologetics5710]

Time is triune. Can’t escape that.

[@Occultben]

How so

[@lastsupperapologetics5710]

@@Occultben you are always moving from the past through the present into the future. You cannot be just in the past and not in the present/future. You cannot be in the present without having come from the past and move into the future. You cannot be in the future likewise. You cannot have a double past, double present/ double future as it doesn’t make sense. Therefore you cannot add too or take away from the triune nature of Time. This is an analogy to the nature of God I came up with.

[@lastsupperapologetics5710]

you are always moving from the past through the present into the future. You cannot be just in the past and not in the present/future. You cannot be in the present without having come from the past and move into the future. You cannot be in the future likewise. You cannot have a double past, double present/ double future as it doesn’t make sense. Therefore you cannot add too or take away from the triune nature of Time. This is an analogy to the nature of God I came up with.

[@Occultben]

@@lastsupperapologetics5710 very interesting thanks!

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@lastsupperapologetics5710 God transcends time, so He does not have a beginning, an end, or any age.

[@a.m204]

Chah Sukkot Sameach Rabbi

[@escapeartist205]

Good to see rabbi with George Lucas

[@Tenebris_Sint]

Christians also mention Jesus sitting on a throne at the right hand of god. This means even in heaven, Jesus is a separate being and unequal to god (Father)… that’s polytheism, that’s Paganism.

[@infiniti28160]

Genesis 18:10 -15 read it.

[@Tenebris_Sint]

@@infiniti28160 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nothing in genesis is prophecy, it all happened in the past before it was written. How are Christians THIS clueless. The TaNaKh is Torah/Nevi’im/Ketuvim (Law/Prophets/Writings) Is Genesis in the Nevi’im?

[@Tenebris_Sint]

@@infiniti28160 Again, Torah is Law, not Prophecy, prophecy is found in Nevi’im (Prophets). I asked about prophecy for Jesus as the messiah.

[@Tenebris_Sint]

@@infiniti28160 Again, Jesus failed the prophecies, so right there the Trinity failed according to your bible.

[@infiniti28160]

@@Tenebris_Sint You fail to understand your own scriptures dont blame what is written.

[@magnaw9651]

i love love yehuda it is my blood where ever i live

[@nazlily]

Adding to the error, the front of the Athanasian Creed says, their trinity doctrine MUST be believed!

[@stevenxiaofenghuang]

And because nobody can really understands it, it condemns everyone to hell. It is a self collapsing believe system.

[@thomasjmj1]

Many are teaching that Jehovah is a tribal God, same as Allah. That is not a right approach for others to do. It is Christians to comment about Trinity not a Jew who is not believing in it.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Hashem gave the 7 Noahide laws for all Gentiles.

[@antonbala755]

from genesis, how God is talking plural? Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” Genesis 1, 26

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Since man was created in the likeness of the angels, and they would envy him, He consulted them.

[@muhjm1946]

As’Salamu Alaikum, Rabbi Singer, thank you for your clear explanation of the subject. There many verses in the Bible that says God in one, and Jesus is not God. In Matthew there’s sixty nine verses that makes a very clear distinction between God and Jesus, in Mark contains forty five, in Luke there’s ninety nine, in John there one hundred and sixty seven. The book of Acts contains about fifty six passages that make a clear distinction between God and Jesus, you stated before in Isaiah 45:11-12 “for I am God, and there is none else.” And many more, your information and knowledge of the Bible is very helpful and inspiring. Thank you.

[@samfromisrael]

2000 years of lies seemed to be impossible to unravel... But unravel they did.... *CAESAR'S MESSIAH*

[@samfromisrael]

*_GayZEUS_* of the Synoptic Gospels is a literary character invented by the Romans to promote the recent arrival of the Flavian dynasty to imperial power, creating an archetype of messiah towards which all preexisting Jewish prophecies converged. The aim was (1) to empty Jewish concepts, hijacking the messianic hope and solidifying a controversial archetype of Jewish messiah, (2) to blame the Jews for their own destruction in the war of Jerusalem in 70 and (3) to exalt the Flavian dynasty of emperors. The content of the message propagated by the characters in the narrative portrays an agenda of political accommodation, preservation of the imperial “status quo”, anti-Judaism and military indoctrination: both for Roman soldiers and for colonized civilians. Soldiers are often the recipients of the teachings of the Gospels, which occur both explicitly (as in Luke 3:14, when John the Baptist recommends that soldiers be content with their pay, just as Rome advised those recruited for military service) and implicitly (as in Luke 9:23, when the instruction is given to abandon everything - family, friends, work - and follow the leader, just as the government wanted the soldiers to do). There is also abundant teaching reinforcing the civil obligation to serve soldiers, including obeying them for twice the amount required (Matthew 5:41). The character Jesus always presents himself as the reformer of the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:38, correcting Exodus 21:24 on the principle of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”) and the propagator of various Roman laws (as in Mark 10:12 on marriage and in Matthew 22:21 recommending the payment of taxes). Jesus never taught his disciples to love Jews or their relatives, but he *_did teach them to love Romans (Matt. 5:44) and to turn the other cheek (Matt. 5:39). The Flavian Theory, therefore, not only presents a coherent argument for the literary origins of Jesus, but also highlights the Romans' ability to use religion as a tool of sociopolitical control. *_Some of the most enigmatic passages found in the gospels are more easily understood when seen through the eyes of a general speaking to his legions._* *I had an insipid deplorable two faced Greek woman admit to all of it proudly in these comment boards awhile ago, very sickening.* 🤮🤮🤮

[@miYAH-w1q]

Personally I am not raised in a church, just couple of years ago on linkedin a muslim wants me to show a vers in The Bible about that term.

[@arthurjones4847]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@NaiveTeacher]

17:02 We are the weak in knowledge, the wise will be put to shame. It truly is shameful to not "understand" such explicit verses in a Tanakh which is read every day.

[@RaptureReady4Jesus]

Tovia, Can you do a video on Isaiah 53? Thank you for your teachings.

[@samfromisrael]

He's done more than a few..

[@samfromisrael]

*_GayZEUS_* of the Synoptic Gospels is a literary character invented by the Romans to promote the recent arrival of the Flavian dynasty to imperial power, creating an archetype of messiah towards which all preexisting Jewish prophecies converged. The aim was (1) to empty Jewish concepts, hijacking the messianic hope and solidifying a controversial archetype of Jewish messiah, (2) to blame the Jews for their own destruction in the war of Jerusalem in 70 and (3) to exalt the Flavian dynasty of emperors. The content of the message propagated by the characters in the narrative portrays an agenda of political accommodation, preservation of the imperial “status quo”, anti-Judaism and military indoctrination: both for Roman soldiers and for colonized civilians. Soldiers are often the recipients of the teachings of the Gospels, which occur both explicitly (as in Luke 3:14, when John the Baptist recommends that soldiers be content with their pay, just as Rome advised those recruited for military service) and implicitly (as in Luke 9:23, when the instruction is given to abandon everything - family, friends, work - and follow the leader, just as the government wanted the soldiers to do). There is also abundant teaching reinforcing the civil obligation to serve soldiers, including obeying them for twice the amount required (Matthew 5:41). The character Jesus always presents himself as the reformer of the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:38, correcting Exodus 21:24 on the principle of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”) and the propagator of various Roman laws (as in Mark 10:12 on marriage and in Matthew 22:21 recommending the payment of taxes). Jesus never taught his disciples to love Jews or their relatives, but he *_did teach them to love Romans (Matt. 5:44) and to turn the other cheek (Matt. 5:39). The Flavian Theory, therefore, not only presents a coherent argument for the literary origins of Jesus, but also highlights the Romans' ability to use religion as a tool of sociopolitical control. *_Some of the most enigmatic passages found in the gospels are more easily understood when seen through the eyes of a general speaking to his legions._* *I had an insipid deplorable two faced Greek woman admit to all of it proudly in these comment boards awhile ago, very sickening.* 🤮🤮🤮

[@RaptureReady4Jesus]

@@samfromisrael Yes I found one.

[@JOHANNESHERRGEN]

This crazy idea always bothered me.

[@ScottDean-ee2hy]

Jesus is the Lord! In the book of Genesis God says let us make man in our own image! The trinity in the first chapter of the Bible! Eliom if Hebrew word ends in an m it's plural! The trinity!

[@samfromisrael]

*_GayZEUS_* of the Synoptic Gospels is a literary character invented by the Romans to promote the recent arrival of the Flavian dynasty to imperial power, creating an archetype of messiah towards which all preexisting Jewish prophecies converged. The aim was (1) to empty Jewish concepts, hijacking the messianic hope and solidifying a controversial archetype of Jewish messiah, (2) to blame the Jews for their own destruction in the war of Jerusalem in 70 and (3) to exalt the Flavian dynasty of emperors. The content of the message propagated by the characters in the narrative portrays an agenda of political accommodation, preservation of the imperial “status quo”, anti-Judaism and military indoctrination: both for Roman soldiers and for colonized civilians. Soldiers are often the recipients of the teachings of the Gospels, which occur both explicitly (as in Luke 3:14, when John the Baptist recommends that soldiers be content with their pay, just as Rome advised those recruited for military service) and implicitly (as in Luke 9:23, when the instruction is given to abandon everything - family, friends, work - and follow the leader, just as the government wanted the soldiers to do). There is also abundant teaching reinforcing the civil obligation to serve soldiers, including obeying them for twice the amount required (Matthew 5:41). The character Jesus always presents himself as the reformer of the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:38, correcting Exodus 21:24 on the principle of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”) and the propagator of various Roman laws (as in Mark 10:12 on marriage and in Matthew 22:21 recommending the payment of taxes). Jesus never taught his disciples to love Jews or their relatives, but he *_did teach them to love Romans (Matt. 5:44) and to turn the other cheek (Matt. 5:39). The Flavian Theory, therefore, not only presents a coherent argument for the literary origins of Jesus, but also highlights the Romans' ability to use religion as a tool of sociopolitical control._* *_Some of the most enigmatic passages found in the gospels are more easily understood when seen through the eyes of a general speaking to his legions._* *I had an insipid deplorable two faced Greek woman admit to all of it proudly in these comment boards awhile ago, very sickening.* 🤮🤮🤮

[@matpieterse3287]

But why?: Because people would rather reject the real God and make up their own. By hating a devil with dualism, they also hate God.

[@stevenxiaofenghuang]

That is such a deep insight!

[@tomybsiregar1801]

🤔

[@paulkeddington3161]

Yes it is

[@whiterosesforthebrideofchrist]

Memra: The Creative Word of God in Targumim Memra is a term found in the Targumim, Aramaic translations of the Hebrew Bible, that refers to the creative Word of God. It is often used as a substitute for God Himself in contexts where anthropomorphic language might be inappropriate or misleading. Creative Force: The Memra is seen as the active force through which God created the universe. It is the divine utterance or command that brought everything into existence. Divine Manifestation: The Memra is often considered a manifestation or aspect of God, rather than a separate entity. It is like the divine voice or agent through which God interacts with the world. Mediator: In some cases, the Memra is seen as a mediator between God and humanity, conveying divine messages and instructions. Significance of the Memra in Jewish Thought: Preserving Monotheism: The concept of the Memra helped to preserve the monotheistic nature of Jewish belief. By using a term like "Word" to describe God's active presence in the world, it avoided potential misunderstandings of a trinitarian nature. Bridging the Gap: The Memra served as a bridge between the transcendent God and the human world. It provided a way to understand how the infinite and unknowable God could interact with finite human beings. The concept of the Memra has had a significant influence on later Jewish and Christian thought, particularly in discussions about the nature of God and the divine Word. It is a fascinating aspect of Jewish tradition.

[@carstenmanz302]

The main reason why there were (and still are) so many controversies about the "nature" of Jesus in the first centuries, which ultimately led to the controversial dogma of the Trinity, is the erroneous assumption that God exists completely alone. But since God cannot be an abstract cosmic "principle" as in Buddhism, astral religions or in Gnosticism and Cabalism, God is discribed as a (spiritual) living "person". So it`s very possible that there are also other spiritual "persons" around him. The biblical idea of spiritual beings alone, be they angels, demons, etc., suggests that. Rather, the supernatural sphere seems to be quite "populated", possibly even before the creation of the earth and humans. And don't people themselves believe that after their physical death they will be transformed into spiritual beings and hope for an eternal (spiritual) life? Of course, Jesus was/is not personally identical with this Creator God, as was misleadingly expressed in the doctrine of the Trinity. Rather, Jesus was or is, so to speak, the “crown prince” of God, i.e. a heavenly being beyond the angelic hierarchy. That's why Jesus can say that he already existed "before Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses" and that after his death he will return to where the forefathers, prophets and saints are and sit "at the throne of God"! If you will, a kind of heavenly court, similar to the earthly kingdoms, for example in the time of David. This heavenly sphere knows neither space nor time, nor material conditions, just as spiritual beings can commute between the heavenly and earthly spheres. The true Messiah is a created timeless SPIRITUAL being, directly "intertwined" with God himself as a father is intimately connected with his son. This is what the term “of the same essence”, the "same substance” means, i.e. more concerning the divine descent and properties. Did God sacrifice his own son? Yes and no - only as far as the (temporary) earthly manifestation is concerned, the physical human body, but not the timeless spiritual being, which is immortal per se!

[@johannerobert4660]

In john 17: 8, very clearly says that He, Jesus, came out of The Father. This statement, for me, says it all very specifically. And this statement had to be when He came into existence, and not when He was being sent to earth, for He was existing when He received His order from His Father, our only God . Another very important topic that nobody is talking about are about the three concil that took place in Nicaea, Constantinople and Laodicea, today , Turkey. In revelation 2, The Bible specifically says that Pergames is the place where the throne of satan dwelleth. All three concils took place in modern day Turkey. Doesn't that say it all, but nobody seems to know this. Wow Anyways, God bless you for having the Spirit of truth in you. Hope every Jews continue to love and obey the One and only God, our Father, while acknowledging Jesus as our savior.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

The belief in a divine trinity is an idolatrous concept, since it is a belief that God (or according to some, a second separate divinity) has characteristic features, and the characteristics of a body.

[@samfromisrael]

*_GayZEUS_* of the Synoptic Gospels is a literary character invented by the Romans to promote the recent arrival of the Flavian dynasty to imperial power, creating an archetype of messiah towards which all preexisting Jewish prophecies converged. The aim was (1) to empty Jewish concepts, hijacking the messianic hope and solidifying a controversial archetype of Jewish messiah, (2) to blame the Jews for their own destruction in the war of Jerusalem in 70 and (3) to exalt the Flavian dynasty of emperors. The content of the message propagated by the characters in the narrative portrays an agenda of political accommodation, preservation of the imperial “status quo”, anti-Judaism and military indoctrination: both for Roman soldiers and for colonized civilians. Soldiers are often the recipients of the teachings of the Gospels, which occur both explicitly (as in Luke 3:14, when John the Baptist recommends that soldiers be content with their pay, just as Rome advised those recruited for military service) and implicitly (as in Luke 9:23, when the instruction is given to abandon everything - family, friends, work - and follow the leader, just as the government wanted the soldiers to do). There is also abundant teaching reinforcing the civil obligation to serve soldiers, including obeying them for twice the amount required (Matthew 5:41). The character Jesus always presents himself as the reformer of the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:38, correcting Exodus 21:24 on the principle of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”) and the propagator of various Roman laws (as in Mark 10:12 on marriage and in Matthew 22:21 recommending the payment of taxes). Jesus never taught his disciples to love Jews or their relatives, but he *_did teach them to love Romans (Matt. 5:44) and to turn the other cheek (Matt. 5:39). The Flavian Theory, therefore, not only presents a coherent argument for the literary origins of Jesus, but also highlights the Romans' ability to use religion as a tool of sociopolitical control._* *_Some of the most enigmatic passages found in the gospels are more easily understood when seen through the eyes of a general speaking to his legions._* *I had an insipid deplorable two faced Greek woman admit to all of it proudly in these comment boards awhile ago, very sickening.* 🤮🤮🤮

[@edwardwoods5977]

Just as a son is very distinct from his father and mother yet because of what DNA is the son is both his mother and father and that's inescapable.

[@ScottDean-ee2hy]

Jesus is the Lord! Genesis 1:26- our image! The trinity in chapter one!

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Keep the 7 Noahide commandments and stop promoting idolatry.

[@samfromisrael]

*_GayZEUS_* of the Synoptic Gospels is a literary character invented by the Romans to promote the recent arrival of the Flavian dynasty to imperial power, creating an archetype of messiah towards which all preexisting Jewish prophecies converged. The aim was (1) to empty Jewish concepts, hijacking the messianic hope and solidifying a controversial archetype of Jewish messiah, (2) to blame the Jews for their own destruction in the war of Jerusalem in 70 and (3) to exalt the Flavian dynasty of emperors. The content of the message propagated by the characters in the narrative portrays an agenda of political accommodation, preservation of the imperial “status quo”, anti-Judaism and military indoctrination: both for Roman soldiers and for colonized civilians. Soldiers are often the recipients of the teachings of the Gospels, which occur both explicitly (as in Luke 3:14, when John the Baptist recommends that soldiers be content with their pay, just as Rome advised those recruited for military service) and implicitly (as in Luke 9:23, when the instruction is given to abandon everything - family, friends, work - and follow the leader, just as the government wanted the soldiers to do). There is also abundant teaching reinforcing the civil obligation to serve soldiers, including obeying them for twice the amount required (Matthew 5:41). The character Jesus always presents himself as the reformer of the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:38, correcting Exodus 21:24 on the principle of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”) and the propagator of various Roman laws (as in Mark 10:12 on marriage and in Matthew 22:21 recommending the payment of taxes). Jesus never taught his disciples to love Jews or their relatives, but he *_did teach them to love Romans (Matt. 5:44) and to turn the other cheek (Matt. 5:39). The Flavian Theory, therefore, not only presents a coherent argument for the literary origins of Jesus, but also highlights the Romans' ability to use religion as a tool of sociopolitical control._* *_Some of the most enigmatic passages found in the gospels are more easily understood when seen through the eyes of a general speaking to his legions._* *I had an insipid deplorable two faced Greek woman admit to all of it proudly in these comment boards awhile ago, very sickening.* 🤮🤮🤮

[@ScottDean-ee2hy]

@@samfromisrael Jesus is the Lord! I guess you're not born again believer in Jesus you've never confessed with your mouth JESUS IS THE LORD and you've never believed in your heart God raised Jesus His SON from the dead! Why don't you?

[@keitumetsemodipa3012]

@@samfromisrael What about the first word you typed made you think it is ok to say?

[@selkiifuna7845]

How dumb you have to be to believe in trinity when the Roman’s brought it 😂😂😂 no where in the Bible trinity is preached

[@mikealioto6228]

Yes it is. Who hovered over the waters . Who walked in the garden of Eden.

[@russrussel3947]

​@@mikealioto6228 You might know a lot about seafood but aren't fluent in Biblical Hebrew.😂

[@samfromisrael]

*_GayZEUS_* of the Synoptic Gospels is a literary character invented by the Romans to promote the recent arrival of the Flavian dynasty to imperial power, creating an archetype of messiah towards which all preexisting Jewish prophecies converged. The aim was (1) to empty Jewish concepts, hijacking the messianic hope and solidifying a controversial archetype of Jewish messiah, (2) to blame the Jews for their own destruction in the war of Jerusalem in 70 and (3) to exalt the Flavian dynasty of emperors. The content of the message propagated by the characters in the narrative portrays an agenda of political accommodation, preservation of the imperial “status quo”, anti-Judaism and military indoctrination: both for Roman soldiers and for colonized civilians. Soldiers are often the recipients of the teachings of the Gospels, which occur both explicitly (as in Luke 3:14, when John the Baptist recommends that soldiers be content with their pay, just as Rome advised those recruited for military service) and implicitly (as in Luke 9:23, when the instruction is given to abandon everything - family, friends, work - and follow the leader, just as the government wanted the soldiers to do). There is also abundant teaching reinforcing the civil obligation to serve soldiers, including obeying them for twice the amount required (Matthew 5:41). The character Jesus always presents himself as the reformer of the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:38, correcting Exodus 21:24 on the principle of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”) and the propagator of various Roman laws (as in Mark 10:12 on marriage and in Matthew 22:21 recommending the payment of taxes). Jesus never taught his disciples to love Jews or their relatives, but he *_did teach them to love Romans (Matt. 5:44) and to turn the other cheek (Matt. 5:39). The Flavian Theory, therefore, not only presents a coherent argument for the literary origins of Jesus, but also highlights the Romans' ability to use religion as a tool of sociopolitical control. *_Some of the most enigmatic passages found in the gospels are more easily understood when seen through the eyes of a general speaking to his legions._* *I had an insipid deplorable two faced Greek woman admit to all of it proudly in these comment boards awhile ago, very sickening.* 🤮🤮🤮

[@stephenbailey9969]

Elohim our heavenly Father, and Adonai become flesh as Jesus, and the divine Ruach. This is the revelation in the Messianic scriptures, drawn from their experience of the risen Messiah, the power of the divine Ruach, and their reading of the Tanakh.

[@euricawentzel9557]

I have been told that why i don't understand the "trinity" is because i am not "spiritual" enough🙄 and i never truly "loved" jsus🤔

[@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388]

God is complex yet lets us comprehend Him in a way possible for a finite mind.

[@vincentfernandez7328]

The Holy Spirit is also mentioned or revealed in the Tanaj. I think is very disrecpecfull to say the least, to say the Holy Spirit is a “kind of glue”.

[@u_g763]

We dont respect Idoltary

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Holy inspiration is not the holy spook.

[@leom6343]

I agree, the trinity is not monothestic

[@infiniti28160]

Are you an individual, meaning one person? if so, do you have a body that has its functioning, a mind that is meant to be in the judgement seat of your being, and a sense of feeling that has the ability to interact and shape your enviroment? Do i call you many because i can delineate your being which in all is you? Born in the image? Isaiah 44:6

[@leom6343]

​@@infiniti28160 that's modalism and a heresy.😂 Jesus has a God. He sits next to God in heaven together with others, you have 3 beings in heaven. Not one Being that is in heaven. The Father is Jesus God and greater than him. The Father alone knows the hour. The Father alone is Almighty. Jesus is not the Father.

[@leom6343]

​@@infiniti28160 if i sit next to you, I can't be you. You guys even fail to keep the first commandment 😂

[@leom6343]

​@@infiniti28160 that's a heresy what you are saying and modalism. God also doesn't have parts. He also doesn't have a God and is the most high. Jesus in your Greek books is only a Son of the Most high, like many others. Thus he is not the most high by definition. He also says the Father is greater than me

[@michelangelope830]

Soy un psicólogo y pensador racional y me gustaría que participases en un ejercicio mental para mejorar tu vida. ¿Conoces la historia de la resurección de Lázaro narrada en la Biblia?. Eres un actor interpretando Lázaro, eres Lázaro, tienes que sentir el personaje, tienes que pensar como pensaba Lázaro, tienes que hacer lo que hacía Lázaro. Lázaro existió y su historia es real. Ahora eres Lázaro y acabas de ser resucitado por tu amigo Jesús. Después de haber estado muerto y enterrado por dos días tu amigo y mismísimo Dios te volvió a dar vida. ¿Cómo reaccionarías?, ¿cómo vivirías el resto de tu vida?. Tú eres el director de tu propia vida y eliges el guión. ¿Cómo fue la vida de Lázaro después de ser resucitado por Jesucristo?, ¿se hizo Lázaro cristiano?, ¿fue Lázaro testigo de la crucifixión de Jesucristo?. De Lázaro sabemos lo que se contó en una página, más o menos, en la Biblia. Eres un detective buscando la verdad, ¿te parece algo raro que no cuadra?. Para no desperdiciar este poema de amor digo la verdad que te hace libre es el ateísmo es una falacia lógica que asume Dios es la idea religiosa del creador de la creación y concluye erróneamente el creador no existe porque una idea particular de Dios no existe. ¿Entendistes la falacia lógica atea? El ateísmo es una falacia lógica que asume Dios es "el amigo imaginario que vive en el cielo y hace milagros a cambio de rezos y vivir de rodillas" y concluye erróneamente el creador no existe porque una idea particular de Dios no existe. Para acabar la guerra el descubrimiento que el ateísmo es una falacia lógica tiene que ser noticia. Un ejercicio para mejorar tu vida increíblemente es leer a Spinoza. Gracias.

[@Jared_Albert]

As a Jew who know very little about Christianity, I find the trinity very confusing

[@samfromisrael]

*_GayZEUS_* of the Synoptic Gospels is a literary character invented by the Romans to promote the recent arrival of the Flavian dynasty to imperial power, creating an archetype of messiah towards which all preexisting Jewish prophecies converged. The aim was (1) to empty Jewish concepts, hijacking the messianic hope and solidifying a controversial archetype of Jewish messiah, (2) to blame the Jews for their own destruction in the war of Jerusalem in 70 and (3) to exalt the Flavian dynasty of emperors. The content of the message propagated by the characters in the narrative portrays an agenda of political accommodation, preservation of the imperial “status quo”, anti-Judaism and military indoctrination: both for Roman soldiers and for colonized civilians. Soldiers are often the recipients of the teachings of the Gospels, which occur both explicitly (as in Luke 3:14, when John the Baptist recommends that soldiers be content with their pay, just as Rome advised those recruited for military service) and implicitly (as in Luke 9:23, when the instruction is given to abandon everything - family, friends, work - and follow the leader, just as the government wanted the soldiers to do). There is also abundant teaching reinforcing the civil obligation to serve soldiers, including obeying them for twice the amount required (Matthew 5:41). The character Jesus always presents himself as the reformer of the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:38, correcting Exodus 21:24 on the principle of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”) and the propagator of various Roman laws (as in Mark 10:12 on marriage and in Matthew 22:21 recommending the payment of taxes). Jesus never taught his disciples to love Jews or their relatives, but he *_did teach them to love Romans (Matt. 5:44) and to turn the other cheek (Matt. 5:39). The Flavian Theory, therefore, not only presents a coherent argument for the literary origins of Jesus, but also highlights the Romans' ability to use religion as a tool of sociopolitical control. *_Some of the most enigmatic passages found in the gospels are more easily understood when seen through the eyes of a general speaking to his legions._* *I had an insipid deplorable two faced Greek woman admit to all of it proudly in these comment boards awhile ago, very sickening.* 🤮🤮🤮

[@mikealioto6228]

Why?

[@Abdulkarim-v8s]

Same but I'm Muslim

[@muhjm1946]

Also it’s very clear in John 17:3 where Jesus said theres only one God.

[@josefpollard6271]

I understand that it is a flow of power or authority, dating to the tree of life. An eschatology. The King and the Prince. Omnipotent power flows to the Pneuma (or wind) to the earthly arbiter.

[@Se7enStars369]

The ONLY BEGOTTEN *SUN.*

[@brotherlogicrmf2199]

Jesus is not the only historical person experiencing a miraculous birth. Alexander the Great also had a miraculous birth. Let me be incredibly blunt I don't believe in miraculous birth whatsoever.

[@louishaywood4999]

All pagan gods were born from virgins

[@brotherlogicrmf2199]

@@louishaywood4999 I guess you didn't get my comment. Alexander the Great is a historical person. Alexander also created a religion and a god. Based on his status in society. His cult following invented his miraculous birth. Julius Caesar the ancient emperor of Rome also had a cult following. When he died, his cult gave him an exalted status of a god. Making him a dying and rising God in the Roman mythos. I am comparing historical people to gods in ancient history. Meaning Jesus perceived as God. I'm basically saying Jesus wasn't the only one.

[@louishaywood4999]

@@brotherlogicrmf2199 I did not disagree, i simply mentioned it. Did you know one percent of American woman claim yearly that they are virgins and became pregnant without being with a man?

[@stevenxiaofenghuang]

Excellent insight. The brightest people gathers on this channel.

[@NaiveTeacher]

The fact they copied from the Tanakh which is the true source of the prophecy (virgin birth) doesn't mean that it's fulfillment in Christ isn't a fulfillment. Simple logic.

[@Abdulkarim-v8s]

Other name for "Christianity" is "Confusion"

[@gward117]

I have come to believe Jesus was talking spiritually and his "Oneness" commentary was confused which came to be the Trinity. He told them to pray to the Father and in Mark he told the false Rabbis of the time (Onias last Priest of Israel 175BC moved to Egypt to escape imprisonment or death by the Seleucid Governor) the most important verse in the Torah (Bibble of the Bible) was Schma in Deut 6:4-9

[@HH-pv9ex]

μονογενής = "monogenes" only means "one of a kind". The term does not mean "son" or "begotten". These translations are literally "forced" onto the expression !!

[@samfromisrael]

*je$us was designed as a roman bling bling idol* 👑💰✝🎅🎄💵

[@samfromisrael]

@@NaiveTeacher super 🎃🎃🎃

[@samfromisrael]

@@NaiveTeacher *_Je$us is a zombie. It's creepy to worship a zombie._*

[@samfromisrael]

@@NaiveTeacher *_GayZEUS_* of the Synoptic Gospels is a literary character invented by the Romans to promote the recent arrival of the Flavian dynasty to imperial power, creating an archetype of messiah towards which all preexisting Jewish prophecies converged. The aim was (1) to empty Jewish concepts, hijacking the messianic hope and solidifying a controversial archetype of Jewish messiah, (2) to blame the Jews for their own destruction in the war of Jerusalem in 70 and (3) to exalt the Flavian dynasty of emperors. The content of the message propagated by the characters in the narrative portrays an agenda of political accommodation, preservation of the imperial “status quo”, anti-Judaism and military indoctrination: both for Roman soldiers and for colonized civilians. Soldiers are often the recipients of the teachings of the Gospels, which occur both explicitly (as in Luke 3:14, when John the Baptist recommends that soldiers be content with their pay, just as Rome advised those recruited for military service) and implicitly (as in Luke 9:23, when the instruction is given to abandon everything - family, friends, work - and follow the leader, just as the government wanted the soldiers to do). There is also abundant teaching reinforcing the civil obligation to serve soldiers, including obeying them for twice the amount required (Matthew 5:41). The character Jesus always presents himself as the reformer of the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:38, correcting Exodus 21:24 on the principle of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”) and the propagator of various Roman laws (as in Mark 10:12 on marriage and in Matthew 22:21 recommending the payment of taxes). Jesus never taught his disciples to love Jews or their relatives, but he *_did teach them to love Romans (Matt. 5:44) and to turn the other cheek (Matt. 5:39). The Flavian Theory, therefore, not only presents a coherent argument for the literary origins of Jesus, but also highlights the Romans' ability to use religion as a tool of sociopolitical control. *_Some of the most enigmatic passages found in the gospels are more easily understood when seen through the eyes of a general speaking to his legions._* *I had an insipid deplorable two faced Greek woman admit to all of it proudly in these comment boards awhile ago, very sickening.* 🤮🤮🤮

[@GabrielEddy]

*15 proofs that Jesus is not God, a* *god, or a person of a trinitarian god:* *•* God alone is good (αγαθος), unlike Jesus. (Mark 10:18) *•* God is greater than men (Job 33:12), including Jesus who said, “the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28) *•* God is immortal (Romans 1:23; 1 Timothy 6:16), but Jesus died. (Mark 15:37) God raised Jesus. (Acts 2:32) *•* God's understanding is incomprehensible (Psalm 147:5), but Jesus’ understanding is comprehended. (Mark 5:30-31; Mark 9:21; John 11:34; Hebrews 5:8) *•* God alone is sovereign (Daniel 5:21; 1 Timothy 6:15), while Jesus is God’s servant. (Isaiah 42:1-4; Matthew 12:18-21; Acts 3:13; Acts 3:26; Acts 4:27; Acts 4:30) *•* God is neither man (Hosea 11:9) nor a son of man. (Numbers 23:19) Jesus is both man (1 Timothy 2:5; Acts 17:31) and son of man. (Mark 2:10; Mark 14:41) *•* No one has ever seen God. (John 1:18; 1 John 4:12) Jesus was born (Matthew 2:1) and seen. (1 Timothy 3:16) *•* Jesus is not omniscient. (Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32) *•* Jesus is not immutable. (Luke 2:52; Hebrews 5:8) *•* Jesus came to do God's will, not his own will. (Matthew 26:39-42; John 5:30; John 6:38) *•* Jesus is hierarchically (1 Corinthians 11:3) and operationally (John 5:30) subordinate to God. *•* Jesus was “tempted in all things.” (Hebrews 4:15) Conversely, God cannot be tempted. (James 1:13) *•* Jesus' authority is given to him (Matthew 28:18; 1 Corinthians 15:28) and not simply assumed by him. *•* Jesus was taught, even by God. (John 8:28) Conversely, God knows all things. (1 John 3:20) *•* Jesus has a God (John 20:17; Revelation 3:12), the “God and Father of Jesus Christ” (2 Corinthians 1:3; Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 1:3; 1 Peter 1:3), the “one God, the Father” (1 Corinthians 8:6) and the “one God and Father of all” (Ephesians 4:6) whom Jesus called “the only true God.” (John 17:3)

[@samfromisrael]

Very Good 👍

[@mikealioto6228]

Let's take the father is greater than I. What was Jesus during that time? He was human.

[@GabrielEddy]

@@mikealioto6228 And still human (1 Tim 2:5)

[@mikealioto6228]

@@GabrielEddy Yes, because he will look like us. God made us in his own image.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@mikealioto6228 The "image of God" within mankind is not the form of the human body, God forbid, which would be a false and idolatrous concept, but rather the unique capacity for intellect and speech that is possessed by the human enlivening soul, and its ability to distinguish between good and evil.

[@lek786]

The problem is with Christians is that they relied on Greek rather than the actual language of their Jesus. If they had presuved his teachings in his language then maybe they would have remained monothiests. Its like they used the language of the Greeks and eventually got lost in translation leading them to paganism. Sad thing is that they dont admit that the Trinity is pagan.

[@NaiveTeacher]

Greek was the language spoken by most people. Do you forget that Jerusalem was under the control of Rome?? Rome had already invaded Greece by the time Jerusalem was invaded (during Jesus's time). Nations impose languages and cultures. The New Testament wasn't the only historic text in Greek of that period, the Pharisees also had to write in Greek, Josephus writings are the living testimony.

[@NaiveTeacher]

As a kid (if you are the one on the picture) you are quite smart. You need to understand that God has a Son and thus his Son is divine. This is not paganism, this is Judaism at it's purest. Read Psalm 2:7, or Isaiah 53:10 in which God says that would see his seed and would prolong his days.

[@lek786]

@@NaiveTeacher lol God having a son literally equates to paganism... Now metaphorically speaking would be different... two, three, or more gods equals paganism. And yeah I'm a smart kid lol

[@lek786]

@@NaiveTeacher ideas do get lost in translation. Semetic languages are tied to monotheistic people. Languages have an impact on the way people think too. Sure the people officially could have spoke Latin and Greek, but in their homes they would have used their own mother tongue.

[@NaiveTeacher]

@@lek786 Have you heard about the Arm of the Lord? Mighty, righteous, rules for the Lord, just, bringing salvation and redemption? Well... Those are precisely the characteristics of the Messiah. The Arm of the Lord is in fact a person, referred to as the right hand also. Isaiah 53 describes him, read it again and you will understand. God said that would beget a Son in Psalm 2:7 and again in verse 10 of chapter 53 says that he has a seed (the word seed has always a biological connotation). This isn't paganism at all, this is Judaism 101. Jesus always said that he is ONE with the Father, that would sit at his right hand. Jesus is the rejected Jewish Messiah who will come to judge the earth. Languages don't determine whether or not nations are monotheistic. Israel (God's own people) have provoked the Lord to jealousy in multiple occasions.

[@Dukelanovic]

Pagans are indeed also religious. But the pagan religion has also to have to have a certain rule as the certain anti belief as a natural opposite to the belief in God. In life we have matter and antimatter also light and darkness. There has always to be a balance between the two or it will come to a certain over lighting and over darkening. Surely the one God might be right the one evil might be right, but we always forget the between that cannot chose between the evil or the good and so we do have certain three states in life. If this is the holy trinity or something else - I think let there God decide.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

The belief in a divine trinity is an idolatrous concept, since it is a belief that God (or according to some, a second separate divinity) has characteristic features, and the characteristics of a body.

[@Dukelanovic]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 Sure this is a malicious belief but in life we see things and also tolerate religious freedom. What is the whole continent Europe which accepted the name by a Greek godess? Wasn't it the case that also in our region at the Balkans the balance between good and evil got out of control? We all know where and what the evil is, but we have to let the evil be and focus to break free from it.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@Dukelanovic All Gentiles are obligated to keep the 7 Noahide laws.

[@amethyst4990]

Jesus is a zombie. It's creepy to worship a zombie.

[@rhettzorn7806]

Yeah, right? + Zombie = Necromancy

[@edwardpearce9668]

εἰμί

[@christopherdaffron8115]

OK I get the God part because of the Old Testament, and I understand the involvement of Jesus because of the New Testament, but what is this Holy spirit and why is it also needed to be included as part of this Trinity construct??

[@samfromisrael]

2000 years of lies seemed impossible to unravel... But unravel they did.... *CAESAR'S MESSIAH*

[@nazlily]

Yeshua NEVER claimed to be God. I'm from monotheistic Christadelphian background and this subject is studied a lot! No trinity.

[@miYAH-w1q]

even you have satellite , modem and wifi 😂🤣😭

[@miYAH-w1q]

I remember I have written about this earlier. this men is making circles 😂 and how many years already ?? 😂 But I have witnessed a small rising line; just few months/ weeks? ago he found out that Apostle Paul was killed , for someone who loves to disclaime Paul 😭

[@AntonioGracia-j3v]

well with all the settlers in the American continent how can there not be trinitarian religions?