Tower Controller raises his voice to the pilot. Real ATC Audio

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ATC AUDIO

ATC AUDIO

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@Dub-ro9tk
@Dub-ro9tk 5 ай бұрын
"Hold up your right hand and turn in that direction." Might be the best thing I've ever heard from ATC.
@maybewise
@maybewise 5 ай бұрын
As someone who's directionally challenged (don't worry, I don't fly, I just like these videos) I would've even appreciated the guidance. 🤣
@ahgflyguy
@ahgflyguy 4 ай бұрын
@@maybewiseif I told you to hold up your right hand, would you know which one that is?
@maybewise
@maybewise 4 ай бұрын
@@ahgflyguy Probably not immediately, but I'm self aware enough to think before I take action. Like I would have to remember the phrase "You write with your right hand".
@jfrancis98
@jfrancis98 4 ай бұрын
Scary. I’m afraid and I’m in a different state!!
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 4 ай бұрын
@@maybewise For the rural folk it used to be "Hay foot, straw foot," 'cause that way the sergeants could be confident the privates would know the difference. Problem was, the Canadians snuck in during 1798 and '99, and left shoes all over the country, half with straw in the left-hand laces and half with it in the right. Then they took advantage of the troops' confusion to burn down the White House in 1800. This made it clear to the Yankees that they needed a higher level of education. Thus, acting with "all deliberate speed," a technical term in American law, they passed the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965.
@AV4Life
@AV4Life 5 ай бұрын
“Are you a solo flight student” is the only appropriate question to ask from observing a performance like this.
@weeyee60
@weeyee60 5 ай бұрын
@@AV4Life ~ Or, “You’re a newbie, aren’t you?!?” 🤭 He was cringy!
@flatspin7
@flatspin7 4 ай бұрын
Except he was flying a jet.
@ahgflyguy
@ahgflyguy 4 ай бұрын
“Are you drunk?” Would also be fair
@Sean_Connery
@Sean_Connery 2 ай бұрын
@@weeyee60there was nothing cringe about this video. Just appeared to be incompetence due to a language barrier.
@sem3p
@sem3p Ай бұрын
@@Sean_Connery Get real. What part of "turn right" was the language barrier? He flies like how Brazilians drive.
@FaultyMuse
@FaultyMuse 3 ай бұрын
You know your landing was atrocious when they feel the need to do a full runway inspection after your landing
@misplacedsouthern1236
@misplacedsouthern1236 3 ай бұрын
Yeah! That was pretty good!!!
@wr81mon
@wr81mon 2 ай бұрын
After checking the report it seems the left wing actually struck the ground. I assume this along with the hard landing is why they had to send someone to check on it.
@danielleong1865
@danielleong1865 2 ай бұрын
ATC noted the steep approach, which gave a heads-up to ground crew, who saw the runway impact and checked for gouges. Other commenters wrote that the left wing of the Mitsubishi MU-300 clipped the runway, but one indicated a tail strike. The pilot is the owner of the business *jet*, and is a wealthy Brazilian.
@jenniferstewarts4851
@jenniferstewarts4851 Ай бұрын
Well it could have been worse. C130 landed at our local airport as an emergency,... landing wasn't the issue, to take off they needed the jato... And... that required resurfacing the runway after... those rockets just melted parts.
@caizuus
@caizuus Ай бұрын
@@danielleong1865 He is not brazilian
@Markell1991
@Markell1991 4 ай бұрын
That "yeah I'm a pilot" response was too good.
@jaymeade9898
@jaymeade9898 5 ай бұрын
The pilot says he doesn’t understand right traffic. Apparently he doesn’t understand “turn right “ either. Also, I don’t believe that ATC terminology recognizes the “yeah” response for acknowledgment. Whoever signed off on this guy should have his examiners certificate pulled.
@flyboy952
@flyboy952 5 ай бұрын
I think you get signed off automatically when you take the Crackerjack box certification route🤔
@paulstimpson830
@paulstimpson830 3 ай бұрын
He did turn right, a little, into right downwind. This sounds like he didn't understand the instructions to me and the controller didn't pick up that he wasn't being understood. If the instructions had been, "Turn right, heading 090" then I think the result might have been different. I don't think the pilot met the English proficiency requirement and was possibly used to flying in an environment where Spanish could be routinely used
@sedawk
@sedawk 3 ай бұрын
My complete ATC experience is watching about 5 of these videos. "Turn right" from the ATC makes no sense. "Turn right immediately, heading 090" makes complete sense and should have been the instruction given.
@hackxy1165
@hackxy1165 3 ай бұрын
@@sedawk Turn right by itself does not make sense, but your taking this out of context. He told him to make left traffic numerous times, then he told him to turn right to make left traffic, this pilot is very lost and does not understand English well enough to fly
@dashcan8479
@dashcan8479 3 ай бұрын
@@paulstimpson830 THAT DOESNT FN MATTER. ITS ENGLISH IN ATC IN AMERICA.
@HobbitHobbit
@HobbitHobbit 4 ай бұрын
1983 MITSUBISHI MU-300 For Sale. Only flown by a highly experienced pilot. No hard landings, no tail strikes. Flies straight and level, excellent at left turns. Superior AOA approach capabilities.
@yuna420
@yuna420 4 ай бұрын
You forgot “no lowballing offers, I know what I have” at the end. lol
@russellvt
@russellvt 3 ай бұрын
/facepalm
@digysdosdiy9113
@digysdosdiy9113 3 ай бұрын
Note: Does exhibit intermittent difficulty when turning right.
@Cobra-ky9bt
@Cobra-ky9bt 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@haplessasshole9615
@haplessasshole9615 3 ай бұрын
@@digysdosdiy9113 Solution: Hold up your right hand. Turn in that direction. Difficulty should resolve if instructions are followed.
@tomh.2405
@tomh.2405 5 ай бұрын
I know nothing about aviation, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that when the air traffic controller asks you if you're a solo flight student, that's a sign you're in a wee bit of hot water.
@mrsaskriders
@mrsaskriders 5 ай бұрын
Especially if you are not a student pilot
@RegularItemShow
@RegularItemShow 5 ай бұрын
Especially if you're flying a freaking JET
@steven2145
@steven2145 5 ай бұрын
If you are a student, generally speaking they will just tell you what you did wrong and speak to your instructor without writing you up so you don't have a black mark on your record. If you have a license, you should know better.
@tomh.2405
@tomh.2405 5 ай бұрын
@@steven2145 OK, interesting background. My original point was just that the air traffic controller was obviously being sarcastic; he was making the point that the pilot was making mistakes at the level you'd normally expect from a student.
@forbeshutton5487
@forbeshutton5487 4 ай бұрын
I believe "are you a solo flight student" from ATC translates into "are you f'n stupid?" in real life.
@Nightshft42
@Nightshft42 5 ай бұрын
Pilots that respond like this should be checked for alcohol and other drugs after landing.
@floydturbo2184
@floydturbo2184 5 ай бұрын
He picked the wrong day to NOT stop sniffing glue
@gooddoggy3257
@gooddoggy3257 5 ай бұрын
He clearly should not have passed his AELS evaluation. What instructors put him up for a checkride and what examiner passed him? DEI is going to kill people.
@sjp35productions6
@sjp35productions6 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, both the ‘pilot’ and the aircraft.
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 4 ай бұрын
It's not drugs or alcohol. It's language and culture. It's very obvious. He needs a lot more practice with English before he flies again.
@nilloc93
@nilloc93 4 ай бұрын
nah he just can't speak english You can tell because he's doing the "okay" thing which they get told to say when they havn't got a clue what's going on.
@charlesreediii5083
@charlesreediii5083 5 ай бұрын
This pilot needs his license revoked immediately.
@TheFlagsofDawn
@TheFlagsofDawn 5 ай бұрын
I doubt if he has got one judging by his RT skills!
@huayunhuang
@huayunhuang 5 ай бұрын
Feels like a non native English speaker
@vvinniem8907
@vvinniem8907 5 ай бұрын
Sounds a bit intoxicated to me😮
@V1AbortV2
@V1AbortV2 5 ай бұрын
Typical MINORITY garbage latino pilot. Not surprising in the least.
@blauskie
@blauskie 5 ай бұрын
@@huayunhuang Ya think?
@F1Mike000
@F1Mike000 5 ай бұрын
Huge credit to the ATC for remaining helpful even though the pilot wasn't listening
@sarge6870
@sarge6870 5 ай бұрын
Listening or couldn't understand the language??
@jimbob100-d3l
@jimbob100-d3l 5 ай бұрын
@@sarge6870 English is the required language for aviation in this country. FAA regulation.
@BC-2
@BC-2 5 ай бұрын
Repeating your tail # doesn’t equal English comprehension. He didn’t understand shit.
@derekjeffords345
@derekjeffords345 4 ай бұрын
​@@jimbob100-d3lEnglish is the required language for aviation GLOBALLY.
@evening6402
@evening6402 4 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. However, it's also likely that the controller was aware that, in the event of any incident involving this aircraft, his performance would also be examined very closely.
@sparky6200
@sparky6200 5 ай бұрын
This is not what the FAA considers "English Language Proficient" -- who signed this guy off?
@rawcado
@rawcado 5 ай бұрын
Someone in Meh-hee-co, for a customary fee of course.
@SeligTiles
@SeligTiles 5 ай бұрын
Puppy pilot mill
@user-ik4br3nk2w
@user-ik4br3nk2w 5 ай бұрын
migrant pilots don't obey
@idekav.
@idekav. 5 ай бұрын
The guy who saw those juicy Aeromexico captain hours on his logs
@9W2KEY
@9W2KEY 5 ай бұрын
yeah.. i like to know too, who signed to this guy??
@deemo5245
@deemo5245 5 ай бұрын
I have no confidence that he can take down a phone number
@flyfishizationjones4940
@flyfishizationjones4940 5 ай бұрын
It looks like he ignored that too. 😂 I’m not even sure how this guy got any ratings with this level of radio work and disregard for basic instructions. I was thinking language barrier at first, but I’m not sure. He definitely should know what “TURN RIGHT” means.
@heli-crewhgs5285
@heli-crewhgs5285 4 ай бұрын
Is County 25 a fire vehicle, or simply Airfield Ops.
@flyfishizationjones4940
@flyfishizationjones4940 4 ай бұрын
@@heli-crewhgs5285 pretty sure that’s just an airport vehicle doing a FOD check to make sure the runway is clear of debris.
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 4 ай бұрын
"I'll call it some other day man".
@differenttakethanmost
@differenttakethanmost 4 ай бұрын
Can someone please explain this process: You’ve done something wrong You have to take down a number You have to call it So you can be reprimanded… The odds of anyone taking the number down are what? Right about zero? Even fewer people call it. Makes zero sense to this non-pilot 🤓
@sean8671
@sean8671 5 ай бұрын
As an instructor when you sign the form saying a student is ready for a check ride there’s a part where it says you are confirming that the student is English proficient. Whoever signed this moron off for a check ride needs to have his CFI pulled 😳😡
@bertengineer
@bertengineer 4 ай бұрын
And DPE
@danlieber9506
@danlieber9506 Ай бұрын
In the USA, however proficiency in the English language is not required in many non-English countries.
@solartaire1
@solartaire1 5 ай бұрын
The incident report states that the aircraft suffered minor damage when the left wing impacted the runway on touchdown.
@JC130676
@JC130676 5 ай бұрын
Oof, imagine landing so hard they're afraid you might have damaged the runway... Some fine piloting skills on display there!
@IMAS7X
@IMAS7X 4 ай бұрын
So true.🥲
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 4 ай бұрын
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. And if you can re-use the aircraft that's a bonus!
@JC130676
@JC130676 4 ай бұрын
@@mandolinic Yeah but they'd probably also like to re-use the runway...
@guitardzan5641
@guitardzan5641 4 ай бұрын
That Mitsubishi must be well built!
@russellvt
@russellvt 3 ай бұрын
FWIW... It''s a "normal" joke in the piloting community. It goes along with "changing the altitude" for a given airport/runway for any particularly "hard" landing ... particularly in a large jet. It's often shared between flight crew ... pilots and attendants, even more-so. Sometimes ex-military and the like may even talk about "cratering" that runway.
@Dggb2345
@Dggb2345 4 ай бұрын
Unbelievable this guy is in controlled airspace out of control! No judgement. Incompetent. No mercy. He’s done flying.
@desmond-hawkins
@desmond-hawkins 5 ай бұрын
This happened on January 9, 2021. The FAA registry for N442EA still shows the same owner as when this flight took place.
@MeerkatADV
@MeerkatADV 5 ай бұрын
He also had a tailstrike on the landing.
@Mixolydio
@Mixolydio 5 ай бұрын
Ty for the date
@Pooneil1984
@Pooneil1984 5 ай бұрын
@@MeerkatADV That explains why they were looking for gouges.
@canadagood
@canadagood 5 ай бұрын
This is simply a matter of money giving a person too much confidence about their abilities. According to public records, N442EA is a 1983 MITSUBISHI MU-300 worth about $800,000 USD. It has two Pratt & Whitney Turbo Jet engines. That hardly seems like an airplane for unsure students. Registered owner is Aziz Walid George Haddad of San Antonio TX. He should probably be hiring pilots and not flying himself.
@rickyjanzen6684
@rickyjanzen6684 5 ай бұрын
​@@canadagoodThe pilot replied that he was the "pilot" when directly asked if he was the owner or the pilot. Definitely possible that was still a translation "error" on his part, but may also not be the owner. I which case, the owner should definitely vet his pilots better to prevent damage to his aircraft or even FAA sanctions (however that works--I bet hired pilots still reflect on the owner in some manner if they're bad enough).
@shawon_rahaman
@shawon_rahaman 5 ай бұрын
Loved the animation
@TheATCAudio
@TheATCAudio 5 ай бұрын
Your kind words mean a lot to us. We put a lot of effort into making the animation top-notch.
@shawon_rahaman
@shawon_rahaman 5 ай бұрын
@@TheATCAudio is there any way I can contact you?mail Adress or any other means pls
@misplacedsouthern1236
@misplacedsouthern1236 3 ай бұрын
@@TheATCAudio Great job 👏👏👏
@dx1450
@dx1450 4 ай бұрын
Every time I see a video like this, I'm reminded of that scene from "Airplane!": "He's a menace to everything in the air... yeah, birds too."
@freegw1
@freegw1 5 ай бұрын
Take his pilot license away.
@Jerry-hh5eb
@Jerry-hh5eb 5 ай бұрын
You are assuming he has one.
@misplacedsouthern1236
@misplacedsouthern1236 3 ай бұрын
He probably doesn’t have one.
@xcalibertrekker6693
@xcalibertrekker6693 2 ай бұрын
Costs to much, promote him to instructor and put him in a sim training new pilots.
@alpenglow4243
@alpenglow4243 5 ай бұрын
This guy doesn’t sound qualified to fly any type aircraft, let alone a biz jet.
@rawcado
@rawcado 5 ай бұрын
Ees ok, hee say so.
@deruberschwarze3943
@deruberschwarze3943 5 ай бұрын
I thought I was the only one still using that term! DEI pilot, methinks.
@evening6402
@evening6402 4 ай бұрын
He ISN'T qualified. Fluency in Aviation English is a mandatory requirement of ALL pilots worldwide. Being unable to follow ATC's repeated directive to "turn righf" is a pretty clear indication that this "pilot" isn't even barely acquainted with, much less fluent.
@danwolfe7665
@danwolfe7665 4 ай бұрын
@@rawcadohahaha
@virginiaviola5097
@virginiaviola5097 26 күн бұрын
All these influencer clowns who think there’s something enviable about flying around in private jets… never question the skill of the person behind the controls.
@KSCPMark6742
@KSCPMark6742 5 ай бұрын
Someone with that skill level flying a jet...
@misplacedsouthern1236
@misplacedsouthern1236 3 ай бұрын
They shouldn’t be walking around unassisted. 😱
@patrickdroney4443
@patrickdroney4443 5 ай бұрын
What a clown. This guy is dangerous.
@doggunn
@doggunn 4 ай бұрын
@@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime wat
@MorrisseysMonkey
@MorrisseysMonkey 3 ай бұрын
"Copy the phone number" Chilling words!
@ScorpionAdvies
@ScorpionAdvies 4 ай бұрын
This "pilot" is a safety problem when stated that he did not understand the difference between left and right. License revoked immediately.
@zedk47
@zedk47 4 ай бұрын
"Are you a solo flight student" A Mitsubishi MU-300 would be a really nice training aircraft!
@cattey3306
@cattey3306 5 ай бұрын
I.... it didn't.... there is.......... whe.... ahhhhh... who?
@rawcado
@rawcado 5 ай бұрын
Ees ok, ees ok. He no wreck, Calmate.
@sugarman04
@sugarman04 5 ай бұрын
If he’s a student pilot, he better not be flying in Mitsubishi. Most experience pilots couldn’t handle that plane.
@OneTequilaTwoTequila
@OneTequilaTwoTequila 4 ай бұрын
That's an FAA registered aircraft, which requires the pilot to have an FAA license. There is no way that “pilot” meets FAA English Proficiency certification standards to “read, write, and understand the English language.” His certificate should be revoked, along with the certificate of the DE/TCE who approved his type rating. That guy couldn’t understand directions to a restroom, let alone comprehend the most basic of ATC instructions.
@OneTequilaTwoTequila
@OneTequilaTwoTequila 4 ай бұрын
He also hit the wing of his airplane on the runway when landing.
@michaelmchugh3987
@michaelmchugh3987 4 ай бұрын
Revoke his flying privileges, he is a danger to others.
@paulgray2387
@paulgray2387 5 ай бұрын
When I was learning to fly at a busy airport in the UK I watched a flying instructor land , totally ignoring ATC. There was absolute chaos both in the pattern and on the ground. Go arounds, planes on the runway having to vacate etc. instructor stated his radio was working fine and hadn’t received any instructions from ATC. He was asked to park up next to the Tower and wait, which he managed to do…
@reb1175
@reb1175 4 ай бұрын
What an absolute space cadet
@apexpredator7536
@apexpredator7536 2 ай бұрын
As an ATC, some might be surprised at how many pilots sound like this. The majority of pilots sound just fine, but some...good lord.
@marge9563
@marge9563 5 ай бұрын
My biggest concern is that he landed really hard and didn't say anything (even tho the controller said it looked pretty steep). There could have been debris on the runway.
@rawcado
@rawcado 5 ай бұрын
Ees ok, hee say so.
@CrashEng
@CrashEng 5 ай бұрын
@@rawcado just FYI, we get it, you racist fuck, you reply to like 10 comments here with a barely disguised racist comment about the pilot.
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 5 ай бұрын
@@rawcado Offending pilot is Asian, not Latino. Nonetheless, I get ya.
@danielleong1865
@danielleong1865 2 ай бұрын
​@@RedArrow73: Other comments indicate the plane is a business jet, Mitsubishi MU-300. Registered owner is in San Antonio, and has a Middle East name. Plane hit runway hard, and suffered a tail strike.
@CaptainGumbs
@CaptainGumbs 5 ай бұрын
Immediate revocation!!! Can’t imaging how that would’ve transpired had there been heavy traffic. No business in that aircraft.
@Arturhsmrogna
@Arturhsmrogna 3 ай бұрын
Glad the ATC responded appropriately, whatever the pilot had going on needs to be checked
@namastezen3300
@namastezen3300 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad that someone takes it seriously.
@ScoutSniper3124
@ScoutSniper3124 5 ай бұрын
After ATC told him "Advise me when you're ready to copy the number" I was half expecting the "Pilot" to say "No problem dude, I've got it on speed dial". Jheesh!
@peterhipsey2701
@peterhipsey2701 5 ай бұрын
The only comment that came immediately to mind was perhaps giving a heading to turn to would have been better. Well done to the controller for maintaining his professionalism
@derekjeffords345
@derekjeffords345 4 ай бұрын
Idk if this tower is allowed to do that. If it is a stand-alone vfr only tower then probably not. He can't assign radar headings if he is not radar certified.
@zombier78
@zombier78 4 ай бұрын
@@derekjeffords345 I do not see a reason why they would not be allowed to do that, in the interest of safety and avoiding misscomunication. I also think it might have helped, but with a big question mark, seeing the level of english the pilot was showing from the beginning until the end of the video.
@lyingcat9022
@lyingcat9022 2 ай бұрын
@@zombier78 This is a visual tower. They are not a radar equipped tower(they have no screens, only eyeballs and binoculars). They can not legally give radar vectors to VFR aircraft. Reno Approach Control is likely the radar facility for that area. Though he wasn’t talking to Approach but was under Tower’s control.
@zombier78
@zombier78 2 ай бұрын
@@lyingcat9022 I see, thanks for clarifying. I assumed that aiport of this size would have had a radar equipped tower.
@above_the_horizon
@above_the_horizon Ай бұрын
@@lyingcat9022that’s not true. They can give suggested headings but you are correct that they can’t give regular heading instructions
@coqueto45
@coqueto45 5 ай бұрын
How is someone that inept at the level of piloting that type of aircraft?
@Wulfhard1965
@Wulfhard1965 5 ай бұрын
money....
@erauprcwa
@erauprcwa 5 ай бұрын
Who are these people flying around in these small turboprop and turbofan airplanes who can't speak the language or have basic flying skills? Who's signing them off?
@rawcado
@rawcado 5 ай бұрын
Someone in Meh-hee-co, for a customary fee of course.
@rawcado
@rawcado 5 ай бұрын
Ees ok, hee say so.
@PromptSupercritical
@PromptSupercritical 5 ай бұрын
Quite possibly nobody.
@V1AbortV2
@V1AbortV2 5 ай бұрын
mexican foreign nationals.
@toastehh09
@toastehh09 5 ай бұрын
money
@dazknight9326
@dazknight9326 5 ай бұрын
Airspace is controlled for a reason. Take license, repo the plane to be sure if it is his. It is easy to get in and fly under revolked.
@timothy____1989
@timothy____1989 5 ай бұрын
And send in the drugdogs
@phillipmckie4913
@phillipmckie4913 4 ай бұрын
There is a high influx of latin american pilots that have very poor English Proficiency levels flying in the US. They are being signed off by friends that are helping them to get rated to fly. I have seen tons of this cutting corners down in Miami.
@DavidR-f6z
@DavidR-f6z 3 ай бұрын
Never been so happy to hear "I have a number for you to copy.",
@westsidejakejg
@westsidejakejg 5 ай бұрын
Needs license taken
@GenX-er
@GenX-er 5 ай бұрын
In the boating life it’s called, “A Booze Cruise” and is wisely avoided for good reason.
@danlittle5836
@danlittle5836 2 ай бұрын
I’m based out of Henderson. This Controller does a great job.
@secondrule
@secondrule 5 ай бұрын
He probably thought ATC was telling him to turn right for a right pattern to 17R... language issue might have been in play.
@matthewmillar3804
@matthewmillar3804 5 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking.
@steven2145
@steven2145 5 ай бұрын
This is true but also look at the pattern for Henderson. The have left traffic on both parallel runways. That is pretty unique. He was just assuming that it was right traffic for 17R and left traffic for 17L which would be the most common setup at 99% of airports with parallel operations. The controllers have probably seen that mistake done daily by student or low hour pilots and if it was a student they probably were in the habit of just giving them a tongue lashing. As a student pilot, when ATC gives you a tongue lashing on frequency, it makes an impression and you tend to remember it.
@yifeima2465
@yifeima2465 5 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why the comments are so mean. The pilot made a mistake and could not figure out the rest of the commands as he was still thinking about what went wrong.
@jimbob100-d3l
@jimbob100-d3l 5 ай бұрын
​@@yifeima2465 Proficiency in English is an FAA requirement. This person is not qualified to be flying here. Not to mention the lack of flying skills with the hard landing...
@tonycruz2302
@tonycruz2302 4 ай бұрын
@@yifeima2465 I think the ATC is trying to keep a large plume of black smoke rising through the air. Aviation is a one chance game, no do overs!
@sailingfromswitzerland
@sailingfromswitzerland 5 ай бұрын
Why didn't ATC say to turn right to a heading of 090, repeat zero niner zero! He may have turned harder than just a gentle turn to the right.
@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm
@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm 5 ай бұрын
I suppose he should have given a specific heading, it would have been more clear, but I doubt it would have made any difference to this guy, not going to say pilot
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 5 ай бұрын
@@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xmtechnically, in that airspace, he can’t really give him a heading. Advisory only. Unless he is on an IFR flight plan.
@cajinguy218
@cajinguy218 5 ай бұрын
Providing the instructions of “left downwind for 17R” should have been enough. ….well, enough for a qualified pilot.
@sct913
@sct913 5 ай бұрын
@@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm "Can my nephew have a try now?" (nods yes) "Hold steady on course one-zero-zero." "Hey Uncle Jed. We's doin' a hundred."
@Mash4096
@Mash4096 5 ай бұрын
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 That's not true. The fact that ATC normally don't give headings for VFR traffic, doesn't mean they're not allowed to. ATC can always give a heading if they need to, especially if it is to prevent a possible accident. Like in this situation. The main goal in radio communication is getting your message accross. If the words "turn right" don't work, then you're gonna have to try different words. Whatever it takes to keep people safe.
@elosogonzalez8739
@elosogonzalez8739 5 ай бұрын
N442EA You in a heap of trouble boy!
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 4 ай бұрын
I bet the passengers nearly spilled their martinis with that landing!
@danmartens8855
@danmartens8855 4 ай бұрын
Language barrier. The controller was speaking logically and the pilot was not fluent in that dialect.
@neleth
@neleth 4 ай бұрын
I was sitting here waiting for him to say possible pilot deviation. Knew it was coming any second, lmao.
@TheCream14
@TheCream14 3 ай бұрын
Who ever signed off on this guy?? Criminal.
@johnalexander4356
@johnalexander4356 26 күн бұрын
I heard a guy like this at Kansas City International. Instead of having the "pilot" phone the tower, they directed him to park at the base of the tower. I would have enjoyed listening to the conversation that followed! But that was about 30years ago. Times change.
@olaflieser3812
@olaflieser3812 4 ай бұрын
When you think about it: This was a business jet, not a Cessna or Piper. The way this pilot behaved ... there is more to it than "lack of routine" or something. I believe he was intoxicated.
@FLFlyGirl
@FLFlyGirl 4 ай бұрын
PIC of an MU-300 and he doesn't yet understand left & right traffic. Recordings like this make me feel like a rock star 😅
@railroad9000
@railroad9000 4 ай бұрын
I don't want this "pilot" in command of anything I'm flying in!
@ccjdis
@ccjdis 5 ай бұрын
The left wing hit the ground. omg.
@bidask123
@bidask123 2 ай бұрын
I work at a major convention center. Our radio comms are a major weakness.
@officerrage
@officerrage Ай бұрын
The Pilot did not confirm "left downwind". The controller should have checked, if he got that correctly. After that, it is an obvious miscommunication. Controller says: "turn right". In the perspective of the pilot, he thinks: "of course, I'm turning right - I'm in right traffic". The controller says "your're still headed inbound for right traffic. turn right" Instead, the controller should have to repeat: "You have to change to left traffic. turn right heading 090" (as others also have stated). What I wanted to add is, that "turn right" was exactly what the pilot did. just at the wrong time and with the wrong direction. I think this was also the reason for the too short approach. Instead of continuing the downwind, the pilot turned right to final way too early, resulting in the too steep approach and hard landing.
@ThaFuzzwood
@ThaFuzzwood Ай бұрын
Anyone who actually speaks english should have picked that up. This is a no-habla case. If you cannot speak and understand english, you have no reason to be in a plane as a pilot.
@pfield39
@pfield39 4 ай бұрын
No point in talking to him on the radio, needs the ATC supervisor to personally interview the pilot once he is safely in the pilot's lounge.
@beaudure01
@beaudure01 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of when I coached youth soccer with elementary school kids. I told a kid to go in at left back, and he held up both hands to see which one made the “L.”
@Kevy24
@Kevy24 4 ай бұрын
“Yeah I’m the pilot”. Could’ve fooled me…
@TruthyToo
@TruthyToo Ай бұрын
I feel like I'm listening to the Abbott & Costello "Who's on 1st" routine"...
@svenf1
@svenf1 5 ай бұрын
Obvious major language barrier mixed with expectation bias - however, tower also didn't do the right thing in my opinion by keep telling them to turn right when they were on the right downwind as that was what they intended to do anyway. Instead, a simple heading vector to where tower needed them to go in order to join the left downwind would have made it much more clear to them that they were on the wrong side of the airport. Not saying that pilots should expect babysitting service, but sometimes it's safer to try several ways than saying the same thing over and over and nothing changes.
@RJM536
@RJM536 5 ай бұрын
It's definitely tricky, if he gave a heading the pilot could misinterpret some sort of radar cover. The root is definitely the language skills not being to standard for this pilot.
@pi-sx3mb
@pi-sx3mb 4 ай бұрын
At some point this radio call has to be made: "Mitsubishi 2EA your pilot's license has been revoked. We are declaring an emergency for you and will render whatever assistance you need to land as an unqualified airman."
@JohnSmith-zi9or
@JohnSmith-zi9or 3 ай бұрын
Yes the controller's initial instructions were clear and concise. The followup of "turn right" without an assigned heading is ambiguous. If he had said "Turn right fly heading 020 for LEFT traffic to 17R", that may have cleared up the confusion.
@lyingcat9022
@lyingcat9022 2 ай бұрын
He’s VFR. And I’ve not operated at this field but it’s a class D and isn’t a radar control tower. They can not legally give radar vectors to VFR aircraft. Reno Approach Control is most likely the radar facility for that area. But he was talking to Tower not Approach. I do believe he could have given a suggested heading or cardinal direction but the pilot is ultimately responsible for navigation and collision avoidance and does not have to fly the suggested heading. But the pilot is still obligated to follow ATC instructions to enter the correct traffic pattern designated by ATC in this instance.
@megadavis5377
@megadavis5377 3 ай бұрын
It sounds here as though the English language was simply an inconvenience or after thought.
@user-bj4lp3fr1o
@user-bj4lp3fr1o 5 ай бұрын
Should the controller have given him a compass heading instead of just turn right?
@phillipmckie4913
@phillipmckie4913 4 ай бұрын
It does not matter, he is in the traffic pattern. Pilots should know the spacing on a downwind leg from the runway. All that the controller wanted was for him to get to the leftdown wind. That is a no brainer.
@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm
@EllsworthJohnson-ui1xm 4 ай бұрын
No, he should have known that ATC was trying to get him on the left side of the runway, right to any general heading would have been ok
@Fly-SanDiego
@Fly-SanDiego 5 ай бұрын
The controller hardly raised his voice
@dkdkdeden
@dkdkdeden 3 ай бұрын
You guys really need to mandate a radio operators license. This guy has no clue how to do proper radio transmissions
@jacobdanielkuiper5744
@jacobdanielkuiper5744 5 ай бұрын
This stuff can definitely kill you in a jet, it did for the Lear jet into KTEB not long ago.
@nercopolis99
@nercopolis99 4 ай бұрын
Not qualified to drive a moped. Great example of skills *in theory*, but not *in practice*.
@bubbaoriley7864
@bubbaoriley7864 5 ай бұрын
This happened over 3 years ago
@NuncNuncNuncNunc
@NuncNuncNuncNunc 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, man, I'm good. Echo, echo, echo. Do you hear an echo? Turn right? Right on!
@Mo-zv5yc
@Mo-zv5yc 4 ай бұрын
Not sure if it was clipped but thank goodness there wasn’t any traffic at the same time.
@PuntaPacifica507
@PuntaPacifica507 4 ай бұрын
As a Latino, we do not claim this guy
@guitardzan5641
@guitardzan5641 4 ай бұрын
Well....The blacks guys don't want him either......Maybe the French? They ain't particular...LOL
@PuntaPacifica507
@PuntaPacifica507 4 ай бұрын
@@guitardzan5641 Amish?
@guitardzan5641
@guitardzan5641 4 ай бұрын
@@PuntaPacifica507 The Amish have no airports......Maybe he would be safe there.......As long as they don't let him near a horse.
@gustavo320
@gustavo320 3 ай бұрын
The pilot did not have sufficient English knowledge to understand right turn from landing at 17R
@urbanturbine
@urbanturbine 4 ай бұрын
He had confirmation bias. That whole time he is thinking he is on the correct downwind traffic for 17R and ignored the ATC and proceeded to land. He probably still didnt realize what he did wrong there.
@jaywung7616
@jaywung7616 4 ай бұрын
For reference, this incident appears to have occurred on Jan 9, 2021, so it's already made the rounds on KZbin
@telosfd
@telosfd 4 ай бұрын
Many "pilots" like him are flying daily.
@gustafchurn8282
@gustafchurn8282 5 ай бұрын
Smooth Operator….”Everything AOK”
@heatheridoni1213
@heatheridoni1213 4 ай бұрын
I did my solo in a Mitsubishi MU-300, too.
@rangerider51
@rangerider51 3 ай бұрын
If I was the pilot and was already on the ground and ATC said I need you to take down this number, I would have acted like I never heard him say that.
@Nervegas
@Nervegas 3 ай бұрын
That is a surefire way to have the FSDO all up in your grill, if tower advises you to copy a number, you better damn well copy it down and give them a shout.
@jerrypolete5258
@jerrypolete5258 2 ай бұрын
This is just insane, but we have to let people go because nowadays we can’t hurt feelings.. what a disgrace
@Brettdyt
@Brettdyt 5 ай бұрын
I wish solo flight students got to fly an MU30 jet turbine aircraft!!!!
@billnelson3732
@billnelson3732 5 ай бұрын
Assign the pilot a heading to fly to get him on the proper side of the field. Clearly he didnt know what tower meant with "turn right".
@Jimmer-Space88
@Jimmer-Space88 5 ай бұрын
Correct
@tomk8663
@tomk8663 4 ай бұрын
Controllers cannot assign headings below the MVA (minimum vectoring altitude).
@Jimmer-Space88
@Jimmer-Space88 4 ай бұрын
@@tomk8663 however, they can make a suggestion, correct?
@billnelson3732
@billnelson3732 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@tomk8663
@tomk8663 4 ай бұрын
Correct. they can suggest a heading, as long as it's not assigned.
@BonanzaPilot
@BonanzaPilot 19 күн бұрын
This guys flight on april 1st 2021 makes this flight look like a good day
@13rdp
@13rdp 2 ай бұрын
The controller gave a single clearance that was obviously not understood. Instead of repeating constant same orders that can't be understood since the first message was not understood, it's always better to clarify the main information. Turn right is not explicit for a pilot, he actually turned right, in his mind to got closer to the runway, in downwind, and then in base, while the controller expected a 90 degrees right to join left downwind.
@redkrawler
@redkrawler 5 ай бұрын
Nice 😊 Aviation is finding out the same fate as the Trucking industry. Well Done Government.
@eskie7162
@eskie7162 Ай бұрын
My late dad worked for the FAA, some of these people just don’t listen, plus, some don’t even put out a flight plan…..🤦🏻‍♀️..
@MatthewWithTwoTs
@MatthewWithTwoTs 4 ай бұрын
He turned right, eventually. Lol
@michaelchung1526
@michaelchung1526 5 ай бұрын
Would it not be appropriate for ATC to give precise headings? I get this guy didn't speak English at all and that is not ATC's fault but after it is clear the plane isn't doing what ATC wants, shouldn't more precise instructions be given? Not a pilot or anything.
@PromptSupercritical
@PromptSupercritical 5 ай бұрын
"Turn right, enter left downwind for runway 17-right" is all the instruction any competent pilot should need. It's highly unlikely that anything more specific would have helped this guy.
@Peter-sv4mk
@Peter-sv4mk 5 ай бұрын
@@PromptSupercriticalThat should have been enough, but that obviously wasn’t working, so it still might have helped if tower had issued a suggested heading. “Turn right” is less specific than “suggest heading 270” and could definitely be a simpler instruction for an overwhelmed and confused pilot to understand and follow.
@dew9103
@dew9103 4 ай бұрын
From what I understand, a vfr tower cannot give headings/vectors but can give suggested headings to fly
@anthonymiller9486
@anthonymiller9486 4 ай бұрын
Rusty pilot here but I’ve never heard of checking a runway for damage from a hard landing in situations anywhere the aircraft was able to taxi off runway. Is this because it’s hot asphalt in Nevada?
@danielleong1865
@danielleong1865 2 ай бұрын
Guy in vehicle saw the plane strike its wing or tail on the runway. He then checked for damage or FOD.
@cruzelife6510
@cruzelife6510 5 ай бұрын
this is the guy that will get hired over a competent 1500 he pilot
@gooddoggy3257
@gooddoggy3257 5 ай бұрын
DEI
@cruzelife6510
@cruzelife6510 4 ай бұрын
@@gooddoggy3257 it’s not DEI though. I’m a pilot and I feel very confident in my flying ability but because i don’t have the experience I can’t fly a jet
@cruzelife6510
@cruzelife6510 4 ай бұрын
@@gooddoggy3257 now i’m flying a jet but before i couldnt
@tapiokallio3526
@tapiokallio3526 4 ай бұрын
" I got him cheap". These days only money matters, not Skill 😢
@wdoxsee
@wdoxsee 4 ай бұрын
Of course he will, we need equality - 50% who can speak English and 50% who can't.
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 4 ай бұрын
I get the feeling this guy would be confused if I said, "when I'm facing you, my right is your left"
@yoopernow
@yoopernow 4 ай бұрын
U.S.-registered aircraft. This "situation" might catch an instructor, examiner, or even a flight school in the....
@RichA7CV41
@RichA7CV41 4 ай бұрын
Incredible....
@neilm9032
@neilm9032 5 ай бұрын
He was in his own universe
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