Massachusetts Firearm Instructors Sound Off on New Gun Control Bill

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In a roundtable discussion with Bearing Arms Cam & Co, several Massachusetts firearms instructors say the sweeping new gun control bill approved by the legislature last week will have a crippling impact on the ability of Massachusetts residents to exercise their Second Amendment rights.

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@hermanlin1688 Ай бұрын

It’s ironic that Massachusetts where first battles of American Revolution took place are infringing citizens’ 2A rights

@upStomp Ай бұрын

It makes sense that the first states formed would be the first to become authoritarian. Government's natural tendency is to grow over time.

@djsk244 Ай бұрын

it was also the state with a ton of closet loyalists to the crown.

@commiesnzombies Ай бұрын

as an Army veteran i am sooo disgusted with ASSachusetts right now ,the only thing keeping me here is my grandson, once he is grown i am outta here

@Kevin-vm5wn Ай бұрын

Law enforcement officials were not for it until they were notified that they were exempt from it, then agreed to it?? EBT cards can be used to buy ammunition??? Semi automatic shotguns , rifles that have been used for decades for hunting will be banned??? Every LTC/FID/HUNTING/FISHING/SPORTING license holder needs to vote out every single person who wrote , voted for this bill to pass!! It does nothing but take away our RIGHTS , NOT PRIVILEGE to keep and bear arms if we choose to do so!! Vote them out for good , if not they will keep grabbing and grabbing until there is nothing left !!!

@snowg4953 Ай бұрын

Unfortunately we are a significantly small number in this hell hole.

@AnneMarieBibby1966 Ай бұрын

After I completed my live fire class getting my concealed carry took 10 MONTHS!! My local police station told me he was the only one processing applications. They didn't have help.

@subie38x Ай бұрын

3 weeks to go, then adiós POS Massachusetts. Just days before this was released, the wife and I received great news of a job offer down south. Going to a free state and closer to family.

@thegmarketpodcast6204 Ай бұрын

Wish I could do the same safe travels to you and your family.

@sunsetz72 Ай бұрын

Just because you move it doesn’t mean these laws won’t follow you.

@davecrupel2817 Ай бұрын

My Day Will come as well, someday. For now, I bid you farewell.

@captianobvious9234 Ай бұрын

Good move you'll have money family and the firearms you want. I hate this state more and more each day.

@astepabovetherest7441 Ай бұрын

Snowflakes have majority rule in MA. Lived here my whole life so I know.

@krockpotbroccoli65 Ай бұрын

Yup. Spot on. My family's been here for 400 years and I've lived here the majority of my life.

@JohnShea-d2x Ай бұрын

The Puritanical strict authoritarian MA legislature and judicial systems have been do it our way or the highway since before the witchcraft trials (1692). I know as I have observed the MA authoritarianism my entire life and I am 75 years old. The only known grave of a convicted witch is in town. He saved his life by pleading guilty, saying he was sorry, and by promising never to do it again. The accussed witches from town professing their innocence were executed. He got released from jail when the hysteria ended and his family still operates a farm in town. Some of the witchcraft trial judges professed the rightiousness of their findings of witchcraft guilt till the day they died of old age. Few repented and apologized for their injustice. Refuse to grovel and you will get punished for not "acknowledging" their elite rightiousness. The MA way.

@mrtee5522 Ай бұрын

majority is a loose term , voter turnout is abysmal. R's dont vote. its sad.

@upStomp Ай бұрын

Ditto. 10 more years to retirement and I'm out. Counting the days.

@rancosteel Ай бұрын

I lived in RI and worked in Massachusetts for 63 years. I moved to Texas three months ago. It was expensive and a logistics hassle but I'm glad I moved. I went to my first gun show and everyone had firearms in public. I felt like I was on another planet.

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

$100 just to apply for a LTC permit application that also requires the additional expense of a mandated class just to apply is a poll tax and undoubtedly racist, prejudice and bigoted.

@upStomp Ай бұрын

All firearms licensing is rooted in racism.

@commiesnzombies Ай бұрын

it appears the 2nd amendment is only available to the wealthy, how very UnAmerican

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

A right delayed is a right denied, a fee charged to obtain permission to exercise a right is a poll tax. Both of these are unconstitutional.

@SIA-AFirearmStory Ай бұрын

None of this is constitutional! We are just conditioned in MA to accept these laws. It’s the most discriminative bill we’ve seen in this state. Low socioeconimal citizens will never be able to afford to exercise their 2A right with the costs it will take to complete the multitude of classes this bill proposes.

@garypascucci5797 Ай бұрын

You'd think it would be one of the most gun friendly too. Lexington & Concord was over confiscating guns, & the Boston tea party was for 2% tax... I know how it hurts, I'm in Buffalo NY & they already imposed most if not all of that here already. Good luck & stay strong. On a more cheery note... CHEVRON IS OVERRULED! 😊

@shall2117 Ай бұрын

I mean logically it makes sense, the majority of the people in NE we’re loyalists so it only makes sense that we would slowly revert back to a monarchy; think about it, democrats are frothing at the mouth for a uni-party dictatorship

@SaltMinerOU812 Ай бұрын

GOA already filing the lawsuits

@rancosteel Ай бұрын

Massachusetts is full of a socialist mentality. It's one of the only states that didn't vote for Reagan next to Rhode Island.

@Thor-jc8fs Ай бұрын

Any litigation against this bill should request that State or Federal Courts punish this politicians for violations covered under the Fourteenth Amendment, 42 USC Section 1983 and BIVENS action.

@upStomp Ай бұрын

This is what's been sorely missing from the Constitution - sanctions for elected officials who violate it.

@krockpotbroccoli65 Ай бұрын

@@upStomp I've said it for a long time. The founders really missed the mark by not including willfull violations of public officials' oaths of office in the legal definition of treason. If the gallows awaited these tyrants, they wouldn't be so brazen.

@617Defense Ай бұрын

Appreciate you again for having me on the show

@newbtubetecher Ай бұрын

My family has been in mass since 1938 in the same house. I am going to be leading my family out of mass soon.

@RichardTClark396 Ай бұрын

My family has been in Mass since 1624 and was as Bunker Hill and I’ve had enough of this Massachusetts has become a Marxist communist totalitarian dictatorship!

@sunsetz72 Ай бұрын

Leaving doesn’t do anything. If these laws are not stopped here they will ultimately just follow you.

@elzippo488 Ай бұрын

Hey you funded it then

@krockpotbroccoli65 Ай бұрын

I really hate it, but I miss governor Baker the fake Republican.

@AnneMarieBibby1966 Ай бұрын

Me too! He was the lesser of the evils.

@krockpotbroccoli65 Ай бұрын

@@AnneMarieBibby1966 He sucked, but he never woulda signed an abomination like this bill.

@upStomp Ай бұрын

He allowed Maura to legislate from the AG's Office. He was literally no better.

@krockpotbroccoli65 Ай бұрын

@@upStomp While that is true, and he was a disgraceful, spineless bastard for letting that happen, I don't think, had the 7/20/16 edict been an actual bill, that he would have signed it into law.

@moushunter Ай бұрын

@@krockpotbroccoli65 I think he would have.

@shall2117 Ай бұрын

The fudds of MA certainly have played a part in this. I’m 28 and it took me 7 years to join a rod and gun club. Even now after being a member there for over a year they still treat me like dirt at their competitions, taking all the fun out of it. The fudd culture here has restricted the 2A from being embraced and gaining traction. In some ways they’re significantly worse than any wokie

@jeffhays1968 Ай бұрын

Mass is where Gun Fudds go to retire.

@shall2117 Ай бұрын

The club I’m a part of only opened up memberships because the median age of their members was 76 years old They’re a huge part of the problem

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

@@shall2117These "sportsman, rod and gun" clubs lost a lot of membership during covid, a town club near me opened up application to through sponsorship. At least 20 people joined in 2021 alone.

@shall2117 Ай бұрын

@@warrenharrison9490 They lock them down as exclusive little clubs and then wonder why so few young people are pro 2A

@Allinoffroad Ай бұрын

What club are you a member I’m an instructor in Sturbridge and I promise we are not fudds come on down

@knightingale9833 Ай бұрын

Massachusetts Police Chiefs Association opposed the original bill, HB4420, unanimously because it was unenforceable. Take a page out of Illinois gun owners' playbook, DO NOT COMPLY.

@douglasmararian5705 Ай бұрын

ALL the Police Departments blame the wait for LTC License on the Massachusetts State Police for Extremely Slow Response and Return of License. It's time GOAL got busy and sued the Commonwealth of Massachusetts for Violations of our 2A Rights. GOAL has never done this and not sure why not. I blame the LTC owners also for not standing up for their rights to these politicians. It's time to vote them out and Repeal these new laws.

@GUITAROFGOD69 Ай бұрын

They disarm the people but the cops still have military gear. MA just bought a load of M4s for the police. For what? What war are we fighting in MA? Sounds like a lose lose if I can’t defend myself but the state is outfitted for a war.

@texture6 Ай бұрын

Read the 2A no mention of the police

@GUITAROFGOD69 Ай бұрын

@@texture6 I don’t understand what you’re implying by this? I know the 2A doesn’t mention police. That’s not my point.

@texture6 Ай бұрын

Police are exempt from gun laws. Shall not be infringed implied to the people. But how many gun laws do we have on the books and police are exempt

@GUITAROFGOD69 Ай бұрын

@@texture6 exactly

@mrnoodles4579 Ай бұрын

To combat the criminals with illegal weapons I presume

@darlam40 Ай бұрын

as a mass resident and also a LTC recipient, i would like to assist in petitioning this so we can stop this madness!! we really need to get those people out of office before all our rghts are taken away from us!!

@thingspolicesee Ай бұрын

The state firearms licensing unit is way under staffed. Not a priority in Mass unfortunately.

@mafirearmsafety Ай бұрын

Will instructors still be able to give classes under the old criteria for 90 days after the bill is signed? Any knowledge of this?

@thingspolicesee Ай бұрын

Great question , unfortunately I have no idea. Haven’t heard anything from the state on this yet.

@upStomp Ай бұрын

Even if they read the bill before voting, there's no way they understood it. Vote out ALL incumbents!

@upStomp Ай бұрын

Most of them couldn't define "semi-automatic".

@moushunter Ай бұрын

It is irresponsible of any legislator to vote on a bill that they haven't read and don't understand. There should be a 30 day waiting period on a vote on any large omnibus bill to ensure each legislator has adequate time to read the bill and ask questions.

@SaltMinerOU812 Ай бұрын

The unconstitutional nonsense will not stand

@tommymach1301 Ай бұрын

Cape gunworks is setting up a petition we need at minimum 50k signatures but were trying to make an impact statement by getting 100k statewide so any and every gunshop statewide should have a petition paper setup for this bill to be surpressed till election day.

@commiesnzombies Ай бұрын

we all voiced our opinion before they even voted on this, alot of good that did

@selsp97 Ай бұрын

This topic does not go beyond the choir, people interested in gun ownership. We need to find a way to get this message of getting involved out to residents and voters.

@anng.4542 Ай бұрын

Instructor Doncor speaks about this at (32:52). And Instructor Nolan at (34:18).

@Electriclineman Ай бұрын

I know so many Gun owners in Mass that have the attitude, I already have my LTC or a certain gun so it doesn't affect me.. The worst attitude to have!!

@commiesnzombies Ай бұрын

what will they say when the mandatory door to door confiscation begins

@thingspolicesee Ай бұрын

Most PDs get the applications to the state pretty quickly. The state takes a long time to send it out. 2 to 4 months typically.

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

Some towns hold the applications and then send in batches.

@philr182 Ай бұрын

Who's going to pay the liability insurance? The private ranges won't pay for that. Is the state going to pick up that cost?? That will run in the 10's of millions at least. Where's that funding coming from?

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

Talk to your family, friends and coworkers, inform them of this, many don't know how egregious this law is. Urge everyone to contact Healey's office and voice your opposition to this bill on the grounds that the majority of the topics are in courts across the nation being challenged on the unconstitutionality of such laws.

@jerrkyd Ай бұрын

Are all semiautomatic rifles and shotguns really "banned" as part of this bill?

@FrenchieBlack07045 Ай бұрын

Yall need to come together and sue the state

@TonyCreonte Ай бұрын

Massachusetts....Where freedom goes to die....

@commiesnzombies Ай бұрын

New Hampshire folks better pull their heads out of their sphincters and stop voting democrat or they will see their rights vanish too

@L2fish Ай бұрын

I think it also used to be that if you had an LTC from another state with similar requirements you did not have to take a Massachusetts LTC course. Now you do if you are a non resident

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

Thank you everyone for participating!

@MeltedMad Ай бұрын

I took my firearm safety course in june. I dropped off the application with all of the proper documentation, along with the application fee at my local PD twice. it got mailed back on both occasions advising to call for an interview. it took a few weeks and multiple voicemails to get someone on the phone. and now my interview is all the way out for September. I think I'm screwed

@jeffreyorszulak9790 Ай бұрын

Shall not be infringed as a command not a request resident from Massachusetts the first state to create homosexual marriage what the f

@williamfoster2681 Ай бұрын

it's sad to see that a state that was so integral to fighting for american independence fall into tyranny

@galenmuhammad6910 Ай бұрын

90 days for Maryland, but it's happening a bit sooner than that now. We've had a live fire mandate since 2013.

@afigueroa1969 Ай бұрын

All of this nonsense could stop if the Supreme Court would do their job they chose to ignore massachusetts cases

@knightingale9833 Ай бұрын

What Massachusetts cases? Someone has to sue Massachusetts before SCOTUS can step in

@commiesnzombies Ай бұрын

avoided like North Korea

@seanberthiaume8240 20 сағат бұрын

How sad and where freedom began. And I was born there.and GOT OUT to freedomville WV.

@arcticcatpower698 Ай бұрын

Everyone needs to stop buying hunting license in MASSACHUSETTS. THIS WILL WAKE THEM UP.

@L2fish Ай бұрын

I am surprised though that they did not throw mandatory insurance in on your home owners insurance. That would have priced a lot of people out

@selsp97 Ай бұрын

26:28 crime. Correct, not about reducing crime.

@tommymach1301 Ай бұрын

Also to say to this it has to be statewide. If i did not mention it cant be more than 25% in one county of the total amount of signatures it has to be to somewhat equal staewide

@goodcitizen64 Ай бұрын

Thanks Cam

@JohnTBlock Ай бұрын

Heres the.problem... how many gun owners, hunters, etc. Are registered to vote or bother to if they are?

@JohnShea-d2x Ай бұрын

Remember in November! MA EBT cards have a SNAP food account and some have DTA cash benefit accounts. The food account can not be used for non-food items, and some food items like hot food (hot subs) are not allowed. No fast food drive through or in store fast food purchases allowed. The maximum daily SNAP benefit at this time is about $9.57 per person. Bon appetit. SNAP food benefits cannot be used to buy soap and toilet paper. Cash DTA benefits have been forbidden for alcoholic beverages,. Court-ordered fees, fines, bail or bail bonds. Firearms and ammunition. Gambling. Why are they now OKing ammo purchases?

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

It doesn't make any sense. If ebt (tax payer subsidized funds) can purchase ammo, then the 100 application fee and mandatory training can be funded by taxes collected on ammo and arms.

@michaelfitzpatrick559 Ай бұрын

I am a certified home firearms, safety, instructor, NRA, pistol instructor, Shotgun, instructor rifle, instructor range officer my question is I do not have a place to do live fire that means she just put me out of work. I was going to try to put something together for retirement, but have no place to do live fire for qualifications someone to come in and please help us.

@DHS956 Ай бұрын

After taking my class on the gun shooting it tools for my wife and I over 10 months to get our gun license, Now my wife and I have had enough we are planning too sell our house and move too a gun friendly state where we don't have to worry about being infrared upon

@jeffhays1968 Ай бұрын

Do they still have a LIFE SENTENCE for bump stocks and FRT's like the current law ?

@commiesnzombies Ай бұрын

owning a bumpstock even if it is still in the package not even being used is in the same category as owning an unregistered, unlicensed machine gun, penalty is life in prison, meanwhile murderers, diddlers and skinners get released after 5-8 years, i once worked in a state prison, i have seen it over and over

@Eastcoastweldah508 Ай бұрын

after i finished my class about 8 years ago it took me 2 weeks...

@KennethBostonian 13 күн бұрын

Hello 2A friends. Let me up date my LTC time line in Boston. I applied and dropped off my application BPD on June 5. Received the phone call on August 28 at 6:50 pm 😳to set up fingerprinting. Make sure you pay attention to your phone. They will call you only no emails. I was fingerprinted BPD on September 5 and it took 15 minutes. They give you a copy of your application after you sign their copy. Then you’re done. The officer said I’m all set. Fingerprints will be sent off today. Keep a look out in the mail for your LTC.👍🏾 My wife received her call from BPD on 9/4 at 5:13 pm for fingerprinting. Her fingerprinting will be done on 9/9. So that should give you a general timeline of the process. I was kind of shocked when we heard back so fast from both submitting on the same day on June 5. I’ll update when I receive it from the time of fingerprinting.

@ToddRevius Ай бұрын

Welcome to CA!

@knightingale9833 Ай бұрын

We just leapfrogged you sadly

@WoodyXRay Ай бұрын

I moved out of Massachusetts!

@captianobvious9234 Ай бұрын

Mass resident gun owner here. Me and all my friends are horrified by this bill enough for discussions on moving. This is a communist state at this point.

@TedTeddy-z5z Ай бұрын

EBT can be used out of state, and if your able to use it to buy ammo than you can got to NH and buy ammo. Kinda of a set up to blame NH for ammo violence

@sunsetz72 Ай бұрын

Ooooohhhhhh 😮

@RichardTClark396 Ай бұрын

Has HEALEY BEEN ARRESTED YET??

@forthehellofit5544 Ай бұрын

Weird!! Passing a massive insanely unconstitutional law on a Friday!! Leave MA

@jackvance4924 Ай бұрын

Imagine being a gun guy in MA. Move up to NH where you’re more welcome brotha

@Joe-Reese Ай бұрын

Why you worried? You going to comply or something?

@VirginiaBluesOG Ай бұрын

No Medical Marijuanas In Massachusetts For Net Taxpayers that sucks who needs me to run an entire facility im felon free😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

Just the language around harassment orders is chilling.

@desperadopharaoh2361 Ай бұрын

Bills or Constitutional rights... You pick!!!

@commiesnzombies Ай бұрын

Massazuela

@snowg4953 Ай бұрын

It has been signed.

@michaelsherman9109 Ай бұрын

Can you hunt with rifles in Massachusetts?

@DHS956 Ай бұрын

Infringed upon. did I mention that I hate spell check on my Kinde can not stop it from auto correct. Ok now I am done ranting

@forthehellofit5544 Ай бұрын

I think all Politicians should have to take an IQ test along with a psych evaluation!!! Before they collect a paycheck!!

@michaelmclane3683 Ай бұрын

If 2024 Massachusetts Democrats were around in 1775 they would have surrendered their firearms to the British enthusiastically.

@williamdurdin1964 5 күн бұрын

Patient, Doctor, confidecieaity ?

@thomas77597 Ай бұрын

“Fight, fight, fight!” - DJT

@ecobasetech4558 Ай бұрын

If course it's by design. Hawaii has already done this. Oregon already tried to do the same!

@Kamiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Ай бұрын

Is it true, that no Republicans voted for this, and it still went to the governor? Sorry, if they talk about it in video. typed this 5 minutes in!

@newbtubetecher Ай бұрын

Do renewals require the psych evaluation too?

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

Not that I've seen, there's no additional schooling required either.

@mafirearmsafety Ай бұрын

@@warrenharrison9490 Will instructors still be able to give classes under the old criteria for 90 days after the bill is signed? Any knowledge of this?

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

@@mafirearmsafety the law is so poorly written and many of the mandates are not funded with this law that it seems there should be a grace period for enactment, I'm hoping this flaw will be the reason this law gets injunctive relief in court.

@warrenharrison9490 Ай бұрын

@@mafirearmsafety I couldn't say, but it seems the way it's written everything required is immediately enforceable.

@josegonsales4110 Ай бұрын

There is a reason why they want your freedoms and why you have your rights. The are doing everything possible and you are going to eventually. It just like watching things developing slowly.