Former British COP Exposes The Truth About Guns In The UK - CNP #16

[@ColionNoir]

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[@devilsreject504g6]

I live on the outskirts of New Orleans 15 min from mid city and things are getting worse

[@devilsreject504g6]

3 block from here there was a group of 2 going thru cars checking door in driveway automatically lights all the security money can buy stole this man's firearm out his truck ,why he left it in his truck is his fault but why is this crime spilling in these neighborhoods because in new Orleans the mayor .had already been robbing the taxpayers for years ,off defending their property by basic American lawnow she thinks her security is worth 30k in first class flight to Europe where nobody knows how she even is !!who besides new Orleans natives would want to harm you ? New Orleans natives have all the reasons to take you out dirty bird!

[@devilsreject504g6]

And this is just me assessing her security threads

[@devilsreject504g6]

It's great how you tube now changes what I say to implement me

[@goosecouple]

Don't fall into the Communist's Common Sense trap.

[@thepenultimateninja5797]

I'm from the UK, but I emigrated to the US in 2009. It was basically a dream come true for a firearms enthusiast. I'll never take my Second Amendment rights for granted, and I do my best to introduce as many new people as possible to shooting. EDIT: I'd just like to say thank you to all the well-wishers. I apologize for not replying individually, but it would he a full-time job! I have actually been here in the US for half my adult life now. I am a US citizen, and I consider myself to be American. Visiting the UK feels like going to a foreign country now, and America feels like home.

[@yourfavoritelawnguy2722]

good man

[@sladeb6036]

Thanks for coming home an being American AF.

[@silvermine2033]

Don't forget to join Gun Owners of America and Firearms Policy Coalition!

[@billynomates920]

good man

[@whomagoose6897]

One bit of American history is the high number of British Army soldiers that refused to return to England after the American Revolutionary War. They just disappeared in the forests. Same with those that went to Nova Scotia that disappeared in the forests of Canada. Mostly because they didn't have anything to return to in England or Scotland. Sometimes it's better to go with the devil you don't know, not the devil you know. All they needed to do was go west until you found a spot to make a life on a farm. The Hessian mercenaries did the same. Instead of returning to one of the German Principalities. They also disappeared in the forest and disappeared. Again no reason to return to Europe. Go back to Europe and return to poverty.

[@drp1bb856]

Robin Williams said it best about unarmed British cops, “Stop! Or I’ll say Stop again!”

[@krisj451]

LOL! I always think of that Robin Williams stand up bit when thinking about British cops! 🥰

[@Karyoldman]

Hah sounds like Monty Python line!

[@Forgivefull]

🤣😂 Nailed it

[@veracious8205]

Less intimidating than Oblivion Guardsmen

[@heartsky]

@@krisj451 I remember him saying "Stop, or I'll throw my keys at you!"

[@theericbenson1692]

I met a black dude this summer in Utah. He moved there from Chicago with his wife and 2yr old daughter. We had a lengthy conversation. He was from a gang background, and felt hopeless in Illinois. In utah he had 2 jobs making 80k a year. Supporting his family and thriving in every way. Very respectable man! Culture and opportunity make all the difference.

[@SuperJ213]

That's great for him and his family. It's too bad people need to flee certain areas. I miss many things about LA, but am thankful my children don't have to live in the same circumstances I did growing up.

[@irritatingtruth9121]

I’m in Utah. I just hope he keeps up with who to vote for. Why Illinois is the way it is. Glad he is doing good. Just hope he realizes how to keep it.

[@albundy06]

Culture matters. Opportunity is a lie. You live in a city,. A walk, a short bike ride, a quick ride on public transport= all the opportunity in the country. People will back up their shit and move their entire life from rural America to a city for said opportunity right next to these people claiming they don't have any opportunity! Opportunity is a euphemism for these people that means these people just won't give me the free stuff that I think I deserve! You want to see "no opportunity". Go visit a small town somewhere like Kansas. Go to Parsons for example. "No opportunity". Nothing to do etc. Every excuse you could want to possibly make for the typical violent thug behavior. It's not the environment,. It's not blah blah blah. It's the people and their culture.

[@usnchief1339]

That's why I left that city when i was 17. I knew I was leaving when I was 15. I have never regretted that departure.

[@muriloninja]

This must be a complete lie because politicians have told me (Black) that I am incapable of standing on my own two feet or controlling my destiny and that I must always think a certain way to ensure my survival....OMG, you mean to tell me that I can turn my brain on and see the evil being perpetuated to a subset of the population and break away from that and make my own way into a better life for myself and my family? Wow! I never knew such was possible in the greatest country of opportunity that millions of people realise everyday. /sarcasm Good on that man for waking up to reality!

[@garysmith7830]

if you get your house broke into no police available but if you go to a protest you will find hundreds

[@lightbeing3697]

Cus some of the protests turn into …

[@BLG_2095]

Because an incident like someone breaking into your house is spontaneous and police don’t sit and wait for your house to be broken into. A protest is a planned event where police resources can be used to prepare and respond to the specific event. If police did have advance warning that your house will be broken into, they would most definitely dedicate specific and sufficient resources to prevent it happening in the first place.

[@ianmcdonald3053]

@@BLG_2095you sound like a civil servant lol

[@BLG_2095]

@@ianmcdonald3053 close enough, crown not civil

[@FiddlinWithYourCerebellum]

What’s the point of police if everyone should police themselves?

[@hankgoldenshaft]

I’m a US citizen who grew up in New Zealand. Cherish your Second Amendment folks, and don’t give the politicians an inch because they’ll take a mile (like they did in NZ and Australia).

[@ericsfishingadventures4433]

Welcome to America my friend!

[@xsidx232]

Trust me we do. I’ll die fighting to protect the 2nd amendment and I know I’m not the only 1 that thinks like that

[@carl5381]

Ardern is a god damn Nazi. How in the hell is that horse faced harpy still in offce?

[@heartsky]

@@xsidx232 I thought the same 3 years ago. That was before the virus scare. Now our government can use it to do just about anything. Didn't even need one judge or court to rule, as if everyone just knows there's certain situations where the Constitution and it's protections has to be put on hold, despite there being no clauses saying anything like that. And by and large most of us went along with it.

[@hankgoldenshaft]

@@ericsfishingadventures4433 thank you sir. I love this country

[@shawnbalch6046]

It's called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs. "I prefer dangerous freedom, over peaceful slavery" -Thomas Jefferson "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

[@kingscairn]

yep

[@AQUAscum420]

hard facts

[@geezerp1982]

which was copied from the english bill of rights 1688

[@majorpwner241]

"I prefer blacks back in Africa." - Also Thomas Jefferson. I'm not really making any significant point here, just... man I wish I could still look up to the founders.

[@ObservationofLimits]

@@majorpwner241 Hilariously the country of Liberia (for Liberty) is a result of us sending ex-slaves back to Africa. Turns out they were fine with slavery. They turned right around and enslaved each other. Not sure why you somehow can't still look up to the Founding Fathers. Most violent crime is by blacks. What Jefferson said still stands for the most part.

[@krisj451]

I mentally compare carrying a concealed pistol every day to having fire extinguishers handy - knowing where they are and knowing how to use them effectively. I don't go looking for fires to put out and I dread the day I might have to face a fire. I don't go looking for reasons to use my EDC pistol, and I dread the day I might have to. But personal responsibility dictates that I should be trained in it's use, effectively and for the right reason.

[@mrgrimreaper94]

Its crazy is that no one carries a fire extinguisher I have one for my vehicle I bought one for my brother's vehicle I've two for the house I don't understand why people don't take precautions I have a tourniquet in the car also one in the house 24 gun safe pistols everywhere pretty much I'd rather be well prepared than ill prepared

[@Cumin69]

@@mrgrimreaper94 Sadly people thinks its crazy to be prepared as if we are asking for things to happen but in reality not being prepped in any way could lead you into some serious trouble. Imagine this, you have a flat but cars dont come with spares or jacks, how are you going to get outta that mess yourself if needed? Always be prepped even if it minimal for the everyday possibilities because the world aint perfect.

[@garrett3117]

@@mrgrimreaper94 In this oncoming collapse, you don't get snickered at by the idiots that thought you went overboard I'd imagine.

[@garrett3117]

@@Cumin69 Can't change a flat on an EV, fun fact. And it can repo itself ofc, so bye bye apocalypse vehicle if not paid off & had the grid to power it. Meaning you'd had paid it off more than not, but yes. People believe bad things are what happens in movies or other people until its not & they're a victim. Smh

[@jamesbrooks4003]

Exactly! Thank you sir for the most common sense statement I've heard in a while.

[@chrisdarcy8998]

I'm a Brit, here since 1995, became a citizen of this great country, decided to love her and not leave her, love shooting, love 2A. I share a lot of your views Paul, and you Colion. Education is everything, shooting is great fun but can so easily go wrong, safety is everything. Education is everything, especially in the potential minefield of everyday carry. I'm a certified instructor, competitive shooter and USCCA member amongst others. Keep it up fellas, great work.

[@MBB563]

2A is huge .....its number 2 ..not three or four or ten in our Constitution....that tells you how important it was to the forefathers ....and they gave that right to the states, not the federal govt. They were worried if the federal govt regulated the right to bear arms then you can have a corrupt president or congress that can take away or abolish gun rights, weakening the power of the people. The states have that right only, and it's part of a check balance to remind the govt that they answer to "we the people". Same with elections, the feds do not control the elections, only the states....that way you can avoid corruption or fraud in the hands of the federal govt or in the hands of a dictatorship in the WH. Each state has to certify regulate and dictate the procudures on how to vote. The same with the military, President cannot mobilize the armed forces inside the US, only the states, or the GOVERNORS. President can mobilize the armed forces outside the US. Again designed to weaken a federal system so dictortarship or king would not be empowered to take over. I realized we are the only country that has the right to bear arms.....in Canada UK Australia and the rest of the world, it's a privilege....that is dangerous. You have a God given right to defend yourself. That is not a privilege. The 1st, freedom of speech and 2nd amendment is so important, that you remove those two rights alone, you automatically become a slave to the state, the state owns you, you literally become a slave like the Roman times, and democracy can collapse.

[@franksanta-teresa971]

I got into a bit of an online argument with one of your fellow Brits on Quora regarding self protection. He said that in the UK you're allowed to protect yourself but you're not allowed to carry any weapons on your person. You are not allowed, in public, to carry a baseball bat. If you do, you'd better have a baseball glove and a few baseballs and be on your way to or going home from baseball practice. Also, you're not allowed to carry pepper spray, stun guns, or knives either but nonlocking pocket knives are okay...as long as the blade is not over 3 inches in length.

[@Planet-Bertie]

@@franksanta-teresa971In Britain, a ‘weapon’ is whatever a ‘policeman’ (read ‘policy enforcer’ - all police ‘forces’ are registered on Dun & Bradstreet as ‘corporations’) deems it to be. In other words, if you are carrying say a wax crayon and when asked, tell a policeman’ that it’s for protection, you will be arrested; you can be arrested for defending yourself - our glorious leaders do not want an armed populace.

[@haroldbell213]

I remember when the British government took away most all of their fire arms. They were in huge piles at the scrap yard. And into the furnace they went. Guns that were in families for generations. Some were gold or silver coated and inlayed with gems. Australia also did like wise. I think it's single shot only. The real crocodile Dundee had a shoot out with police. He had a single shot and police had multi shot weapons.He lost. They made it difficult to own guns.

[@Planet-Bertie]

@@franksanta-teresa971 Yep, pathetic isn’t it.

[@SilasCole88]

"How can we try to stop inappropriate people doing inappropriate things?" By allowing appropriate people to do appropriate things.

[@TheRoulette77]

who was quoted ? thanks i want to read more of them

[@houston4380]

Who defines the appropriate people? Here's the debate.

[@SilasCole88]

@@houston4380 Would it not be the opposite of inappropriate? But there again, you have somewhat of a point. No different than saying, who defines mentally unfit. Which is why I don't want restrictions on rights regardless who it's trying to restrict.

[@SilasCole88]

@@TheRoulette77 It's obvious if you watched the video. I'm quoting the former British COP.

[@Elliskid1995]

@@houston4380 simple… law abiding citizens vs murderers. Let the courts and God sort them out later, as it were. But a law abiding citizen with the element of surprise should be “appropriate”.

[@glocktown21]

GUN SAFETY should be taught in schools! Best thing ever said!

[@boogingtonthunderwood8969]

There was a time in the US when it actually was. A LOT of high schools used to have target shooting teams. This ended around the mid to late ‘60’s. America was a very different place then.

[@phigdon3]

During deer season most of the trucks in the school parking lot had guns visible in racks. I'm 70 and grew up in rural Arkansas.

[@boogingtonthunderwood8969]

@@phigdon3 exactly! America doesn’t have a gun problem. America has an @$$hole problem.

[@jtorelli7341]

Along with statistics and civics.

[@igorsdonjon2271]

Heck we did this in my school back in the 80s...

[@apexlax34]

Fun fact. Many public schools in the American SE taught firearm safety until the mid 60’s. :)

[@RiverRat1953]

In N.E. Pennsylvania, firearm safety was taught in health classes until the mid 90’s.

[@espada9]

Before the destruction of the traditional family, morals, consequences and consideration towards others. Also before mass shootings.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

I live in Oregon and one of the classes my two younger sons are in is Marksmanship. They can letter in this to as they have extra curricular competitions with other schools around the state. They practice with pellet guns while in class and with real firearms after school and at competition. If it isn’t in your areas, I would guess it’s because people there don’t like firearms.

[@Mightylcanis]

@@espada9 The latter is the effect of the former. If we can restore traditional family, morals, consequences and consideration towards others, we will see a dramatic drop in mass shootings.

[@gravygraves5112]

@@Heywoodthepeckerwood more often than not it's because of safety freaks and people not wanting a possible lawsuit, it's why you seldom see seesaws on playgrounds today.

[@matthewskinner1637]

I’m British and I’ve been around fire arms since the age of 12. The cadet forces are brilliant at introducing the fundamental safety aspects of firearms. One kid walked in front of some cadets practicing on DP rifles- rifles that have had the main block removed so they can’t fire, but it was still treated as if he walked in front of a actual rifle. My dad is one of the lucky people who owns a shotgun and the rules around that are insane.

[@necaacen]

our police kill about 3 people per year, america have 5x our population, their police kill about 1000 people per year. their murder rates in their cities are 4x higher than ours. the rules around guns here arnt insane, americas gun rules are insane.

[@EmbraceBLVN]

British, fire arm trained at 10, army cadets for 5 years (big up C company), grandad and dad owns rifles. If you want a quick and easy way to teach your kids firearm safety you should chuck them into the army cadets (air and navy dont focus on firearm use and drills as much as the army cadets)

[@matthewskinner1637]

@@EmbraceBLVN 100% got introduced onto firing L85A2, LSW, 22, and shotguns in army cadets! Also got shown how to keep maintenance on the rifles and shotguns aswell! Always say it’s the best way in the UK for having the best education on firearms!

[@EmbraceBLVN]

@@matthewskinner1637 same bunch of firearms i used, dabbled with the SA80 too and shot 7.62 rifles at competitions. Not to mention the health benefits and the knowledge that comes with it. Made me a better person in the process, I cant praise it enough.

[@cremebrulee2484]

Lol it’s funny seeing this knowing that I’m doing fieldcraft next week. No blank firing though because the air cadets decided to only do that at gold (the highest level) and I’m just moving onto silver.

[@kenreynolds1000]

Talked with a retiree who had just 2nd retired as a Boy Scout camp firing range officer. The man had one goal. No kid he taught would ever accidentally shoot someone or allow someone to accidentally shoot someone in their presence. Well over 10k taught. No politics no BS. Kids had fun and learned. I wish that for all kids.

[@therealsapdad1942]

Im fortunate that I got to experience that as a boy. Those Boy Scout range officers do good work. Low stress environment, but safety is never compromised. Good times. In this new woke world where girls can now join the Boy Scouts, idk what the future of the summer camp range will be

[@dullahan7677]

Yeah, proper firearms education is where it's at. Respect for the weapon and the knowledge that you are carrying potential death in your two hands should be at the forefront of anyone's mind each time a firearm is picked up. I personally began receiving my training in 1978 at age 3 from a hard assed US Army Drill Sargeant that I call Dad.

[@muckboyvc]

​@@therealsapdad1942 same , I shot a 22 LR and made me own Bow ...amongst other things

[@Belovelyava]

I once saw a video with an old lady who was working at a gas station, had a gun put in her face in a robbery. Her untrained butt picked up an old heavy revolver from under the shelf and I quote “ pointed and pulled the trigger “ saved her own life! As an American and a woman, it warmed my heart to the fullest! What a beautiful thing to be able to defend yourself with whatever necessary.

[@Schwarzvogel1]

That is a heartwarming story indeed! As glad as I am to hear that senior citizen managed to escape that potentially lethal encounter unharmed, I'd never recommend that you try to draw when someone is already pointing a firearm at you. That said, if she had not had that revolver handy, she probably would have ended up as another statistic on a police blotter. Complying with someone trying to rob you is no guarantee that you will walk away alive, much less unharmed from that encounter.

[@johntowers1213]

she was defending herself from someone...with a gun though

[@loganblackwood2922]

@@johntowers1213 A man that means her harm can do so with his body, a knife, a club, a bat, a bottle and there's no a damn thing an old lady could do about it. They call them peace keepers for a reason, guns are the great levellers.

[@johntowers1213]

@@loganblackwood2922 if by levelers you mean more dead innocent people..than yes your 100% correct..

[@Killall12]

Hol up now! A woman shoots someone while holding the gun, a revolver at that, with her butt cheeks, and you just gloss over that like you see it every other day on the news? These damn kids

[@ianpyang]

Keep speaking truth Colion! Never give up the fight brother! 👍🇺🇸

[@stephenbermingham6554]

About time UK gets a written constitution.

[@raymondepperson4425]

I had hunter's safety in junior high, which included safe firearms handling, basic shooting safety, and even an air rifle range with regular sessions of target practice with olympic style pellet rifles. Unfortunately that was many years ago, in a small town. You used to be able to walk through the student parking lot and see rifles and shotguns hanging in window racks, ready for a quick after school hunt. Now they'd call the swat team if anyone spotted anything like that. It's sad what this world has become.

[@scifi5565]

Late 80’s-early 90’s same. They made them stop 94ish *about the rifle racks

[@terryr.t.2113]

Besides growing up in the '50s/'60s in a semi-small southern town with BB guns and family supported hunting with shotguns, the local Sheriff's Dept. had a youth program called 'Jr. Deputies' where young people could learn about swimming, camping and shooting. The rifles used here were .22 single shot bolt action, from the prone position. Here, in the '60s there were shotguns in the gun racks of trucks in the school parking lot during dove season!!

[@JPerry2337]

It was best said, that both cultures on opposite side of the pond have different mindsets. I view the Brits still have a very controlling subservient mindset and we fought a war to break away from this lifestyle. I personally don’t want to be exposed to their ideas or lifestyle. They can keep them across the pond. It’s like someone moving to Arizona to get away from their allergies and bring the same plants that gave them their allergies along with them when the move. Leave your allergenic ideas behind.

[@JackShen]

Yes I agree, I was taught gun safety in school. During hunting season, there were plenty of trucks with shotgun racks in the school parking lot. Never 1 school shooting. There was also common sense type things like knife safety and basic household chemical safety. What has been done is, certain people have made this knowledge 'rural or redneck', civilized city folk don't need to learn this. It's like a smear campaign, against what was considered common sense when I was a child.

[@oldfart269]

Mid-70s Louisiana was the same way. Vehicle mounted gun racks, every nook filled.

[@sevensinsvelocityshop7563]

UK Police-“Sir, why are you carrying a knife?” Me-“The last time I opened a bag of chips with my shotgun there were issues”

[@carlmclaren8078]

But why did you need a knife to open a bag of chips?

[@alanhasmemes]

@@carlmclaren8078 well chips come in those freezer bags innit

[@chillapilla7380]

@@alanhasmemes pull em open?

[@davedavids57]

Well in the UK anything carried for the purposes of self defence or with a blade is regarded as a weapon and illegal. So if your carrying a spoon in your pocket, your stopped by the police, they ask why your carrying a spoon and you say to hit muggers with your going to Prison. A friend of mine actually got arrested once in Hackney in London because he had a belt with a large buckle on it in his bag. The police tried to say he was carrying it as a weapon. It got dropped but only after several hours in a cell. The UK is a scary scary place and people like this former British cop need to take responsibility for that.

[@alanhasmemes]

@@davedavids57 bruv im british and i carry an illegal blade everywhere i go lmfao

[@erikmcclure912]

He definitely has a point about training, As a Range Safety officer I see many people that do own a fire arm but do not know how to safely and effectively utilize it.

[@hawkshadowoseanacy5171]

Just looking at the holes in the ceiling above you at any covered or indoor range is definitely evidence for that truth.

[@werealldoomed7643]

Are you saying that my mirror draws and living room larps aren't effective training? How dare you!!!

[@shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085]

@@werealldoomed7643 that was funny

[@cbbees1468]

Does the UK have mountain lions?

[@garrett3117]

@Life of Rob lol

[@cameron1999cam]

Slight correction on the semi auto shotguns. You can have a semi auto shotgun on a shotgun license but it has the limit of 1 in the chamber and 2 stored in a magazine. Anything with a higher capacity requires a firearms license

[@danielmarshall4587]

As a Brit THIS IS GLORIOUS thank you both for bringing this conversation to those who want to hear it.

[@ifyouvote.5005]

You mean limey

[@danielmarshall4587]

@@ifyouvote.5005 POME, Prisoner Of mother England.

[@paulcarpenter885]

@@danielmarshall4587 could always be worse Could be a POMW (prisoner of mother wales) Plz send help

[@danielmarshall4587]

@@paulcarpenter885 The Welsh are good folk, it's just the ruling elite don't want to run the risk of us minions crammed onto this little Island "cicking off".. Anyhow all the best and every success to you and yours.

[@I_Don_t_want_a_handle]

@@danielmarshall4587 The ruling elite are not English, they are Normans.

[@purebredamericanmutt]

This is what I call good entertainment. Interesting to learn of other countries and how they deal with crime and police.

[@willardlentz3044]

Yep How many people from the UK say they have no gun violence let alone any guns. Especially since they have a whole Police unit focused on blacks shooting blacks.Just like Chicago

[@Voxphyle]

But wait.. I thought every gun owner from the U.S. was a gun toting hillbilly who hates other nationalities. Oh.. what? That's not true and many if not the vast majority of firearms owners are very interested in the political nuance and differences from other countries? Well I'll be damned.

[@cpiper6338]

And how much more crime they have that isn't reported as it is here, so people have an uninformed viewpoint of how things really are outside the U.S.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

@@cpiper6338 That's one of the best things I've ever read online! Just because nobody ever hears about something, doesn't mean it never happens.

[@allbies]

@@cpiper6338 It's recorded in statistics, just maybe not the mainstream media and in online circles.

[@Christine1945]

I love the idea of gun safety in high school! My Dad was a Police Officer in Germany, he taught my brother and me about gun safety when I was just 10 years old. We had to go over the rules about once a month. His loaded gun was on the back of his chair in his shoulder holster. We never touched his gun, unless he was there to teach us something about it. Total respect!

[@ddoherty5956]

I spent 2 years cleaning my dad's shotgun before I was ever allowed to fire it, it made me take it's destructive power seriously having to wait to be trusted before being allowed to finally use it.

[@d.s.freimund7621]

That used to be a thing actually in the states. Look up the consequences from the Omnibus Crime Bill if you're interested. Sadly would never happen today because of the school shooting problem (as much as I think it would be a good idea).

[@oppresseddoggo7308]

Your dad is a standup guy! Hope he's doing well.

[@Isheian]

They use to teach firearms safety in school and having school shooting clubs.

[@robdunn595]

I went to school in the 80's in the UK. We had a Combined Cadet Force with an armoury and an indoor shooting range on school grounds... Nothing untoward ever happened...

[@outofoffice7540]

"we don't have wolves, we don't have bears, we don't have moose" People in Canada who can't carry handguns: 😰

[@vickiehadd4324]

FIGHT BACK!!

[@sahb4049]

@@vickiehadd4324 Gun crime and mass shootings are RAMPANT in the country you live in Vickie, sorry bout that.😉😘👍

[@Highwaym4n]

Canadian: Cant speak to the wolves, but, the bears and moose think your pistol is cute.... And to be clear: a good noisemaker, it is. But then again, so are dedicated noisemakers.

[@snomort77]

I did notice in the US national parks where these dangers are present, most people carried bear spray. This was true even in MT where they have constitutional carry. I saw some open carry, but it was not the norm.

[@pamelaforth7820]

Here in Missouri we also have, black bears, wild boars, bobcats, coyotes, elk, bison, and grey wolves (rarely). I once saw a mountain lion run across a four-lane highway so fast that I thought it was a horse, then it jumped the barrier and realized it was a mountain lion. It scared the h*** out of me.

[@adamcoleman2913]

I can tell you I live in Arizona and we have open carry and nobody thinks twice about seeing somebody with a gun on their hip. it literally means nothing because everybody carries a gun in Arizona. The only reason I don’t open carry is because if there ever was a situation I would prefer the bad guy to not know I have a gun.

[@mrgrimreaper94]

I don't want to be the first Target of the criminal open carry is cool but I much rather conceal carry less of a Target in an armed robbery

[@adamcoleman2913]

Another thing about Arizona is you can carry at 18 but only open your not allowed to conceal carry at 18. So quite a few people under the age of 21 open carry in Arizona

[@alastor8091]

People say that, but I've never seen any actual evidence of that being a factor. It sounds like an on paper thing. Maybe if they saw you had a gun they wouldn't mess around?

[@kairu_aname]

@@alastor8091 If you're carrying a gun when a shooter decides to happen, then they disable the immediate threat. There's quite a few mass events that have happened that the shooter was stopped, but not without innocent cost. You only have to look up the injuries of the people that respond.

[@jasonalen7459]

@@alastor8091 Burglars often avoid houses that have dogs or which keep the lights on at night -- same with other criminals, they target the vulnerable. When everyone around has a gun, the number and ease of access to vulnerable people goes down dramatically. There are other factors of course, but that's the reason behind carrying weapons for self-defense.

[@AJadedLizard]

"Inappropriate people doing inappropriate things" is perhaps the most British thing I've heard in a while, so thank you for that.

[@severussin]

“Inappropriate people” is interesting to say the least

[@ChrisShootz85]

"Semi auto shotguns are a no no"? What? You also don't need a separate safe for ammo with a shotgun cert.

[@andrewdomke6869]

Just brought up teaching firearms safety in schools, about fifty to seventy years ago it was taught in schools both my parents were taught basic firearm safety in school.

[@DogDocLou]

I took a hunters education class in MIDDLE SCHOOL in Oregon in the early 2000s. It’s insane how under-utilized common public gun education is these days.

[@livefreeprintguns]

I was fortunate enough as a city rat growing up in the 80's the be sent to a YMCA summer camp where you learned everything from how to swim to building different types of fires, but my two favorite courses were archery and riflery. I can't recall any specifics because it's been so long, but I do remember they were .22 bolt-action rifles. I cannot stress enough how much handling and safety went into the course versus time spent shooting. In fact the first time you signed up for the range you don't even get to shoot... the entire 45 minute session is spent by the instructor hammering into you head the rules of the range, why they're important and the end it by telling you the consequences if you don't comply with every command verbatim while the range is live. I think the most important takeaway here is that even though I was only 7 years old the first time I went, they talked to us like we were adults which was for good confidence building and but also empowering to know they are putting trust in you to operate a firearm (with constant supervision of course). It's because of these courses every summer that I know how to respect firearms, always treating them as if they're live, what to do in the case of a misfire, checking to make sure it's been cleared, how to sight in, how to breathe, how to properly squeeze the trigger, how to stabilize yourself on the mat, always keeping it pointed down range, etc. I have a super liberal mom, and if it's one thing I've learned is that most people who are afraid of firearms never shot one, and by that I don't mean going off to the woods with Uncle Kenny and his older buddies... I mean in the sense of having an amazing instructor that is by their side stepping through everything as they are teaching, but also letting them know it's serious business and to treat it as such.

[@jamestaylor2920]

I took hunter's safety in middle school and again as part of FFA in high school. Firearm safety and boating safety in summer camp every year from 1971 to 1979. My Father and older brother provided hands on firearms training before each hunting season, mentoring, and close supervision from age 10 through 17. As a child of the 60's and a teenager in the 70's growing up on a rural Mississippi farm, this was the norm for my peer group.

[@kolbynope3911]

@@DogDocLou i have my dad to thank for all I know, plus youtube and the games I play. You could hand me almost any platform and I'd be able to work it like I've used it my whole life.

[@chaplainwade]

@@kolbynope3911 Not to be cruel, but I don't believe your second sentence. As a Soldier, I admit that there are weapons systems out there that I would need someone to familiarize me with some platforms. To me, what you said shows much ignorance on your part. Not stupidity, just ignorance of how many different handguns and rifles there are in existence.

[@randysiler7458]

I’m 67 years and almost everyone I grew up with and have been friends for life we’re raised to use and respect firearms. Thanks to our parents we hunted, went to the woods and range to shoot the firearms that we had access to and have owned in our lifetime. Thank you I will continue to support the 2nd Amendment!

[@Marocax]

as you can see ... that second amendment is killing a lot of people for no reason. And instead of avoiding it all together by not allowing the public to have them (and i mean no one), you want to keep it because YOU like it. Very selfish ...

[@Rob-zq6qv]

⁠@@Marocaxyes, because no one would have firearms if they were illegal…(It might only be the bad guys who miss use firearms that would have them)

[@Marocax]

@@Rob-zq6qv ok mate. Look at all other countries that don't have it

[@Crusher-bx7kv]

@@Marocaxit’s fine bro, some people just don’t get it

[@DavidBasara-p8s]

Apparently, you didn't watch, it's not about vanity, There not talking about their Barbie doll collection.​@@Marocax

[@raymondball1680]

I like the thought of teaching gun safety in schools. I was twelve when I took the hunter safety course at the local high school. In high school, every truck in the parking lot had a gun rack...filled with a rifle, shotgun, of compound bow. Never felt threatened or afraid. We have been trained to be threatened and afraid of firearms through the media, movies, and politicians. Thanks for this podcast.

[@Havel_LordBear]

I think you are correct about being conditioned by media and politicians but interestingly those things are also the best sellers of firearms.

[@wolu9456]

a word of wisdom. remind the elders. "hey, u sure it ain't loaded? i saved a tv with that one once.

[@bubbamcknight4865]

Seems you went to the same high-school as I. Drove a 78 Ford highboy with a 30-06 on the top rack, a 870 in the middle and a marlin 22 on the bottom. Was never locked and sat in the parking lot for 3 years. Only one time did any of them come out at school. The custodian used the -06 to dispatch a coyote that turned out to have mange.

[@ElliotRoberts-z4m]

you can absolutely own semi auto shotguns in the UK and your shotgun ammo doesnt need to be in a seperate safe

[@Shugrue]

Nobody wants to kill anyone but self preservation comes into play. I’m retired Army and a combat medic. So I whole heartedly agree, please get proper gun training.

[@HalIOfFamer]

Nobody sane wants to kill anyone*

[@boystainey]

I was a 68W for 13 years, cheers 🤙🇺🇸

[@robertdore9592]

Bravo. Well said.

[@Theother1089]

If you need firearms to protect yourself against people from your own country, your society has failed, no other Western society needs to.. fact If firearms make a society safer, the US would be the safest western country, but it isn't, it is by far, the most violent.

[@toonchistoopid2020]

Unfortunatly the phrase "nobody wants to kill anyone" is a false reality in todays world.

[@beeamerica5024]

Was in England in the '80s my uncle took me to a 300-year-old pub the sir Roger titchborn with a thatched roof and a low ceiling near the White cliffs of Dover and soon as the guys in there found out I was from America they all swarmed around me asking all kinds of questions about guns it seems everyone over there would love to have a gun we just don't know how lucky we are and we better hang on to it 😉🐝

[@MarkyMark2177]

They don’t anymore. The whole country is brainwashed into being anti gun because you don’t have the right to “offend” people in that country

[@theoutlawking9123]

Exactly. As someone who grew up in jamaica, where there are NO gunstores and bullshit gun rights, I knew a lot of people, innocent people, who would be ALIVE right now, if only they had a gun on them when death came for them. We need to fight for these gun rights we take for granted because believe me, the moment they are taken away, We WILL Regret it!

[@resolute123]

The Japanese have a strong love of guns. So much so that their airsoft are very realistic. They want the rights as we do, but their government controls them, plus they don't come from a firearms culture.

[@josedorsaith5261]

Nothing has changed in that regard. Myself and most of my mates all hate that we can't own them. Only a sick country would disarm their citizens

[@kairu_aname]

@@josedorsaith5261 Only a sick government, and only if the citizens allow it.

[@johnniemiller8128]

Asking the government permission to own a fire arm will never stop being funny to me

[@Mr.RichardLittle]

Cry laughs in nc pistol purchase permit

[@johnniemiller8128]

@@Mr.RichardLittle laughs in KY pays only in cash from private sellers lol

[@JG-ib7xk]

But you have to do that in the US too. You have to have a background check and they're allowed to refuse to sell you a gun.

[@johnniemiller8128]

@user-vg9xf7id5l from a private seller the only thing the private seller, a transaction between two individuals, the seller has to be either certain or be able to claim you have no knowledge of a felony that would legally prevent the buyer from purchasing the weapon. And also so what? why would I even want to tell the state what I do with my money and time? It's none of their business.

[@daniyilsemi2941]

I'm Canadian, your comedy is my reality

[@krzysiekgnat]

England is such a strange country where you can't carry pocket knives, kitchen knives are for adults and you can't dream of having firearms. This ex-cop seems to have control over all law-abiding citizens because he had access to guns. I'm glad that Poland is not >yet< as safe as England.

[@Roz-y2d]

Interesting take on things, I’m gonna think about that!

[@Fishandchips9028]

Folding knives with 3" blade non locking is legal every day carry in the UK

[@erictilley2018]

"Why not train kids in school?" We used to! Back in the 50's and early 60's high schoolers were trained NRA gun safety in school OR at Boy Scouts. And even in the 70's come deer season, there were more shotguns and rifles hanging in truck racks and in car trunks in my high school's parking lot than there were at the nearest gun shop!

[@kathybinns1424]

In the 70s we had hunter saftey course in what was then called junior high. Rifle and bow safety along with hunting saftey...

[@gunsup0331]

As an Eagle Scout, being trained on firearms was an essential part of our culture.

[@a9503128]

In Australia we teach kids to swim because nearly every 3rd home has a pool in the backyard. You have $400M guns the horse has bolted and your kid need safety training

[@middleburgprepper2342]

In the 70s we all had a .22 in the back window of our trucks and we knew how to use them safely. We were trained in the Scouts on their safe use,and we all were in the Scouts back in the day.

[@Butter_Warrior99]

@@gunsup0331, Fr.

[@bencruz563]

I carry every day and I have only one rule: peace. I will leave the moment there is conflict in the air and it need be nothing to do with me. I won't argue or bicker or be rude. I do my best to evoke friendliness and on the ocassions where I fail I leave peacefully and promptly. If I am forced into using my gun its because I was not allowed to leave peacefully.

[@tikindegwa6683]

Same here I carry every day never leave the house without it, I avoid all situations that would lead to any form of violence or me having to defend my self just cause am armed am not fueling my car at night on the south side of Dallas TX cause it's a high crime area and the chances of running into trouble while am fueling so that's a no no it's there for situations where I have no choice 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@squat1123]

When we lived in Texas, my youngest daughter was in in a class where part of the curriculum included a hunter safety course. They were given shooting lessons and shot airguns in the hallway.

[@collaborisgaming2190]

Based, wish my school did that; I'd totally join the Air Rifle team. they had Archery and an air-rifle corps for JROTC.

[@ronanohara3965]

N. Ireland is in the UK and all cops are armed. But in my time i have never heard of the police using a gun.

[@strbst2075]

They have their own gun laws and there are fair but different

[@ianmcdonald3053]

It's not a common occurrence thats for sure in Northern Ireland for Police to use their guns but they do use them, they have shot and killed members of the public and i dont mean members of paramilitary groups.

[@DefunctYompelvert]

Just a little correction: you can own semi auto shotguns in the UK. They’re regulated exactly the same as pump actions with 3 round capacity

[@c.h.fieldsports9876]

That saved me saying it 😂, but will add if a section 1 firearm certificate holder you can have a 5 shot semi auto 👍👍🤠

[@JustAGuy93-G]

@@c.h.fieldsports9876 Un-restricted capacity, and you can have mag fed shotguns on a section 1 as well.

[@BenDover-hm9ml]

If you have a section 1 gun license you can own a semi auto shotgun with larger capacities

[@DefunctYompelvert]

@@JustAGuy93-G wild how UK gun laws are way better than Australia and New Zealand’s. The mosque shooting happened minutes from where I lived, I almost drove past it at the exact time of the attack now I can’t own an AR15 or a shotgun with higher than 5 rounds lol

[@YourBombsite]

Ghost load it for 4 if possible

[@TheVCHorseguy]

Last weekend my new neighbor moved in. He's 29, married, 2 children, both under 4 y/o. We got talking and I asked if he liked shooting. He says he has a brand new Glock 17. He bought it because of the "pandemic". He's never fired it. He can't even field strip, clean, and assemble. He comes from a family and friends who are completely ignorant of firearms. I offered to teach him everything firearm related, and shooting. If nothing else, he needs to learn safety and see the damage a firearm can do.

[@mikeyengland6363]

Agreed- anyone carrying/using firearms needs to be HIGHLY trained in the event that they’d ever need it. And the most will never need to, except fun on the range, but mindset is everything.

[@tommcstacker4216]

That is an excellent idea. I want my neighbors safe at gun handling just so they don't Negligent Discharge into my house.

[@brianschuetz2614]

I own a handgun that I bought almost a year ago. I have yet to shoot it. I've never seemed to have the time to go to a range. It remains locked in a gun safe. I do not carry it on me concealed or not. I want to make sure I learn how to handle a gun properly beforehand, and I'm not sure if I'll carry afterward. I bought it thinking it would be interesting to shoot at a range and possibly as self defense in my home in case of a break in. Fortunately, I don't live in a high crime area, but I was a little concerned about things when the BLM/Antifa "fiery but mostly peaceful" riots started.

[@mikeyengland6363]

@@brianschuetz2614 You’ve got the means to defend your loved ones but not the confidence- it all comes with training and practice. And make it fun! Nail the safety drills and you can concentrate on putting holes where you want them. Good luck mate, have fun, keep safe and get your arse down range!

[@kelrik9968]

I was supposed to take a coworker out to teach him to shoot today in an almost identical situation, but he missed his connection coming through Indy last night and had to reschedule the range visit. He at least read up on the safe rules of gun handling, but never shot, never field stripped it, etc.

[@marcos_jv7063]

In 2013 just over 2 years after I moved to the UK from Portugal, I took a pair of scissors to school due to being involved in arts class and back home if you don’t have your own materials you’d get told off or you’d get a report. Now when I got to arts class and took the scissors out of my bag the teacher immediately called me to the principals office and told me to wait ! Within 15 minutes the police , the principal , myself and my parents were in the office discussing on why I had a pair of scissors on me . With all the arguments and discussions my parents vs the police and principal were having, at the end I was sent home for 3 weeks for basically carrying a pair of scissors in my bag , which was the stupidest thing I’ve ever been through in this country not realising why I was being suspended! Now a days I get a better picture but yet it sure was frightening to know you couldn’t carry certain school materials to class .

[@stevecooper2873]

What a sad, SAD, situation.

[@nunesandrew4198]

The UK Marcos is full of shit. The poor get ensalved, but the millionaires, government, and street boys do whatever they want. The good law abiding citizen who is humble always gets wrecked. Sad world

[@mikerieck306]

A liberal fantasy come true.😆 Funny......when I visited a friend in England about 10 years ago I did some skeet and trap there.....what a privilege😅.

[@Landie_Man]

I took scissors to school in the 90s and early 00s without any of the above in he UK

[@djriskykut]

@@Landie_Man yea i think alot of ppl did im not sure i even believe this story is as simple as the op states i think someone may have maybe brandished them in a threatening way or similar behaviour it seems a bit OTT unless they went to school in peckham or lewisham lol

[@yungamurai]

One small error, in the UK you don’t need a separate safe for Section 2 ammunition. You just have to keep them in a separate location to the guns themselves. Still we need 2A in this country.

[@davidw1634]

Yeah you can’t be expected to buy a whole extra safe for slabs of shotgun shells never seen an ammo safe big enough

[@steve00alt70]

Aslong as we have an outdated monarch in the UK they will never allow guns which violates our rights to protect ourselfs and family.

[@davidw1634]

@@steve00alt70 The monarch actually decreed in part of the old English constitution that it was the right of every Englishman to posses weapons necessary for his defence. It was parliament that overturned that

[@steve00alt70]

@@davidw1634 so the monarch powers r useless? Do u think Labour is pro gun law?

[@steve00alt70]

@@davidw1634 I mean we can technically still use rifles even Northern Ireland for sport purposes they havent removed that right.

[@SkuseyBoy]

i am one of the minority of shooters in the uk. shooting Precision rifle competitions is really fun and also clanging steel at 1000y is also amazing. special feeling when you see the steel swing in your reticle and then 3 seconds later hear the ding from the impact. gives me goosebumps every time

[@Stevehboy]

Yeah I’ve been to a few shootings ranges in the UK was dope man

[@jayklink851]

My dad has an old 303. However, it's kind of an interesting rifle; the rifling is the opposite direction of traditional 303s. The rationale being, it was made for troops stationed in the (very) Southern hemisphere.

[@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz]

Not enough of you, when the World Economic Forum, and Ratschild’s other globalist psychopaths come a’ callin’, tho. Unfortunately.

[@SaltNBattery]

How does that work? Do you have to keep your gun at a shooting club or something? Do they allow you to keep it at home? I know you guys aren’t allowed to defend yourselves with anything no matter the circumstances but how does the whole sport shooting thing work?

[@SkuseyBoy]

@@SaltNBattery you can keep them at home but it's gotta be a in a safe, firearms and ammo. And when transporting them like your driving to the range. If you live 5 mins away you can't just huck it in a hunting rig and walk down the street, its gotta go in a vehicle out of sight. If your going hunting then you can walk around with the rifle as it's always private land so no random person can walk up on ya. No public land in the uk other than parks In cities and stuff. If there is the council that has the rights won't let you shoot on it because ya know... "guns are bad"

[@seanknight9808]

When I worked in the UK, I spent most of my time on oil rigs in the North Sea. I had a few days off, and before going back onshore, a guy I worked with who is from the UK told me certain places in London, Notthingham, Manchester, and other cities in the UK I had better NOT go! He didn't say to stay out of cities-he said certain parts of those cities. He said because my chances of getting shot are a lot higher in those places than in NY or LA. I asked him how such gang members and other criminals in the UK can get guns with their very tight gun laws in your country. He looked at me and said, 'where there is a will, there is a way.' Gun control doesn't affect criminals-it affects people who obey the law!

[@femz6438]

This is it. I'm a black guy from the UK and a law abiding citizen for the most part ( I enjoy puffing some MaryJ). That being said i live in the "hood" which has been steadily getting gentrified. How growing up and now the guns available to the gangsters has only been getting worse

[@seanknight9808]

@@femz6438 Hey bud, I'm so glad you made that evident. Haha! you are not a bad person because you like a little MaryJ! :) Anyways, it goes to show how gun control does not work. And the gun grabbing liberals know this! You tell them and tell them, but they don't care because the truth doesn't matter to a liberal. That is because gun control is not about guns, keeping you safe, fighting crime-it is about CONTROL! Period! Gun control laws don't apply to criminals; they apply to people who obey the law!

[@randwilliams8908]

And the government will hire these criminals when they want to do the dirty work of political assassination and citizen round ups. That's the BIGGEST reason executions are lessening to the scum of society. The government sees them as a resource without a conscience, people willing to do any horrific act against the TAXPAYERS in the name of national security.

[@user-eh5cr4or6k]

I would imagine with 3D printers there will be no end to the supply of illegal guns

[@kriss2111]

Gun control stops your streets being flooded with guns. Weirdly people can’t fathom that. Hence why UK streets aren’t flooded with guns.

[@robkenny1529]

I’m from Ireland, there’s so much in this discussion I can relate to. I absolutely love the freedoms the constitution affords us, but it scares me every day how much they are being challenged. I emigrated from a socialist nightmare many years ago, I can’t believe many folks (liberals) are trying to bring that to America’s door. They really don’t know what they are asking for. Uphold and practice you’re 2A rights folks, it’s the only thing that ensures your 1A will survive!

[@nerored6235]

That's just it. They don't know because they've been sold all the supposed benefits but none of the negatives. They've been conned and refuse to accept it when people that lived under those systems tell them how bad it is.

[@robkenny1529]

@@nerored6235 indeed 👍🏻

[@jennymisteqq5399]

That right there, is the reason for the Second Amendment. It’s not about hunting, Sport Shooting, not even about self protection etc. although those are good reasons , it’s not the MAIN reason.

[@domnikoli]

this post is a hybrid of a obsessive constitutionalist and someone who smokes crack lmao

[@SaltNBattery]

@Rob Kenny Are you from the North or South?

[@individualmember]

Brit here. The reality here is that the vast majority of us know where the areas in our town where the gangs are that use weapons in their turf wars and we just don’t go there, so we never see it. I work in tv and was involved in a tv documentary that was shown on channel five earlier this year which followed the police investigating a gang. It basically started from CCTV footage of young men running around attacking each other with machetes, developed into identifying and taking down a gang of drug dealers. When the police took down the gang, when they broke down the door of an apartment and piled in, arresting all the gang members in there, all those cops all had tasers. No firearms were used and the firearms officers were not called in. And of course we as film makers had a conversation with the police about what we showed on tv, and those things we agreed not to show are things that I’m never going to talk about (the fact that I signed an NDA is irrelevant, it’s a matter of principle). But our cops took down violent criminals without using firearms and as a Brit I’m proud of that.

[@deweycollins8354]

Our founding fathers really and truly knew well what they were doing, and I couldn't be happier they did. They also knew sooner or later that what's happening today was going to happen. Our current administration needs reminded of this

[@michaelbrininstool4515]

Our founding fathers would puke if they saw the power of the government!

[@RMcCoy-fb4rs]

@@michaelbrininstool4515 I am sure they would, but then I am positive it would be handled very quickly. We have allowed our "representatives" to expand their power, money and priviledge far beyond reasonable.

[@DTreatz]

They knew power corrupts, cause they just came from it, so they set in motion the foresight to keep that power in check. 200IQ moves from hundreds of years ago

[@EugeneDove]

Hey don't send anything to the user "text me on telegram " it's a scam!!!

[@SwitchedDreams]

Our current administration needs to GO. That's the only thing they need to go.

[@ussenterprise3156]

I love Firearms, and We cant give up our right to bear arms

[@Ricky043]

We just gotta keep fighting I'm fighting to get my rights back trying to get a pardon so I'm allowed to protect my family and home legally

[@danielaramburo7648]

@@Ricky043 so unfair. You did your time, you paid your prescribed debt to society, but you are still punished? Ridiculous.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

@@danielaramburo7648 we also don't have the freedom we should when it comes to selecting the types of firearms we want because the ATF NFA has regulated out freedoms in such a way simply to be the biggest buttholes possible

[@theoutlawking9123]

Start a Second Civil War before that happens!

[@danielaramburo7648]

@Targg the wise even if it was violent, he took his prescribed punishment, so he should be 100% free. If he was so dangerous to society that he can’t be trusted with a gun, why let him re enter society again then? You know he can illegally buy a gun cash if he wanted, not that hard if you are willing to take the legal risk.

[@craigkaschan4822]

It’s so frustrating living in Australia not being able to use as much as an air rifle in your backyard. Won’t even go into our self defence rights.

[@elcheeko8402]

That's sucks bro. I do apologize. Here in USA, That's why I refuse to give up any of my gun rights to these politicians. You give them a inch they will take everything. Everything. They've already said they don't like us having knives. It's ridiculous.

[@Kevc00]

Another thing that people love to leave out about firearms in the UK is Northern Ireland. The sheer amount of illegal firearms in the North is staggering. It is legal to own a pistol in NI and it is the only part of the UK where you can own a pistol. The reason is as most will know the Troubles, and the sectarian violence and paramilitary groups that came with it. I live in the Republic of Ireland and even though most IRA weapons were decommissioned after the peace agreement, there are still thousands of weapons that weren't destroyed, especially from splinter groups that oppose the peace. A lot of these ended up on the black market here. I'm talking pistols, shotguns, bolt action rifles, submachine guns, assault rifles, light machine guns, heavy machine guns, even RPGs, mortars and hand grenades. They are still finding IRA caches every few months.

[@josedorsaith5261]

Same in London. Where I live, there are 3 high-profile shootings a week . Seems the ban only served to make sure criminals are better armed than everybody else

[@lockedon8953]

I'll be honest. If I found an ira cache, in say my basement, I ain't saying shit.

[@Kevc00]

@@lockedon8953 usually they were buried in the ground

[@rockon8174]

Those gun caches are actually government smuggling in guns. Like in the favelas of Brazil.

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

And, from what I've read, still busting IRA groups that are trying to smuggle more arms in every year or so.

[@rvrski1]

Colin asks some great questions sorting through the chaff........ Australia is even more stringent and police are heavily armed. When Australia regulated firearms with registration owners were told that it would never be used to remove said firearms from legal law abiding owners, a few years later that’s exactly what the registry was used for.

[@adamcuneo7189]

I also believe the murder rate is higher in America, not from guns, but from us not being a homogenous population with a lot of different cultures, beliefs, and races living together, plus we also let in hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens coming up from Mexico and Central America, which must have a massive effect on our murder per capita.

[@Damienn1776]

@@adamcuneo7189 Nuance Bro did a great proving to a limited degree that most crimes in America are committed by those native to its lands and not the immigrants from Mexico or anywhere else And he is not for open borders or any of that crap, I'll link the video if you are interested

[@rustyshackleford6369]

@@adamcuneo7189 and our love of drugs. There’s a lot of money to be made. And many of those will quickly kill to get it

[@karamlevi]

Hypnotically… I can get people to go to sleep by saying don’t go to sleep. The more I talk about not having to sleep, it’s fine to sleep, but no real need to sleep… in fact you can forget about having to relax at all even if you are feeling more comfortably relaxed… Anyway. The take away to most people is deeper breathing, more heavy eyes, limbs, ect… And with tone and body language they will sleep. My point? By saying i won’t TAKE YOUR GUNS… and you wonder if I will TAKE YOUR GUNS… as you are assured your GUNS won’t BE TAKEN… Your already primed to have your guns taken away and it seams less odd as your primed for it by saying WE won’t DO IT. I’ve given both a hypnosis example and a fire arms example. We can say things… give it time… say it again… and now your more comfortable with it.

[@rvrski1]

@@karamlevi When your sensitive to conditioning you can see it all around you and reject it.

[@jz1528]

As an American, I can’t express how genuinely uncomfortable I feel at the thought of being without firearms, it’s like pants. You feel naked without it, too many rules around it, same feeling. It’s cause of the feeling of having easy access to something that works as a mental insurance so to speak, the line of thinking goes, “ok the government definitely still listens to me, if they didn’t they wouldn’t let me own these” As well as the feeling of “Ok I’m still not helpless, I can still fight because I own guns and I am trained with my guns, if foreign or god forbid domestic, soldiers walk in to try to r**e my wife and daughters, attempt too take my sons into slavery, and shoot me dead. Then I have a fighting chance.” See cops are 10 minutes away, my neighbors are 5 seconds away, my neighbors and me are tight, a second family, gun owners too. We don’t need mommy nanny state, Uncle Sam to come through and protect you, he won’t, he realistically can’t. Grow up, take care of your own.

[@JoBlakeLisbon]

Totally get you. One point I find about the US in general is that people are really paranoid about home invasions, people attacking their wife and family etc. I'm based in Europe, have also been based in Latin America. I've rarely felt that concerned when I'm at home. My main safety concerns are always in public.

[@realMaverickBuckley]

Yup. I mean like he said, in the UK its not like 80% of the world where you literally can't have anything. You can't have full auto. You can't have 90% of handguns. But you can have 12 gauge shotguns, you can have certain AR-15s , my local shop has a Barrett 99R 50cal for sale. But.. its much more expensive than America (but everywhere in the West is more expensive than America, that's how the 'Allies' and petro dollar work). And if you're a recent parole or you have a history of self harm is much harder to get one. The downsides are obvious, the upsides are 1/18th of the gun crimes and 1/6th of the murders (both per capita). Also interactions with the old bill are much less likely to escalate because neither party has a gun (99.99% of the time). The other benefit in todats crazy politics is 2 unarmed shootings of civilians in 20 years which means less political insanity rising out of usually a fair shooting that's been politicised. Oh and obviously no one worries about kids at school or gangs having guns. The gangs have knives !! But not guns. I'm 100% pro 2a.

[@josephdestaubin7426]

Never owned a gun, never wanted own a gun, and then I shattered my non-dominant wrist and work accident. I cannot defend myself in a fair fight. I've never been in a fight, realy, but from the looks of me ( run-of-the-mill blue-collar contractor), I'm not the kind of person that people target. Anyways, since I can no longer hold my own in a fist fight I now own a gun. It doesn't completely take away the feeling of helplessness that my wrist has left me with, but it absolutely helps.

[@jordanbruner3714]

​ @Maverick Buckley The UK also doesn't have the population if the US, or borders, ir a huge problem with gang's. They also dojt have multiple cultural populations. The majority of shootings homicides are are in the streets not in schools. And the majority of shootings homicides are by gang's and in major cities. The majority of the country is rural and doesn't have the problem.

[@jordanbruner3714]

​@@realMaverickBuckley And the nobody really worries about kids being shot in schools, that's less than 1 percent. And didn't become a thing uhtli the 80s

[@kristianj1977]

From the UK and found this extremely fascinating. Ty bro

[@rlgmedia5364]

I laughed when your guest said people that open carry are just a holster for people like him because it reminded me of a friend that always opened carried on his right hip. I asked him why and he handed me his firearm and said look at it. It was empty, no ammo. Then he pulled up his shirt in front and there was a second pistol. He said they always grab the open carry one that is empty giving him a chance to pull the loaded one.

[@dwightcurrie8316]

I get your friend's point & it's Kinda valid, but Life and Experience has taught me that if I carry 1 weapon or 20, I want every Dang One of them Loaded to the gills & extra ammo/Mags/Whatever....But that's just my Old Country Ass speaking for only me. I'd also prefer every other person in the world carrying an Empty weapon & That Ain't Happening Either

[@vld7850]

Excellent idea!

[@Re_Doubt]

@@BonusHole The more common application is carrying a big unconcealable pistol that can go out to range in an open carry fashion. This would allow your concealed pistol to be really small and/or in a reduced cartridge as it only needs to be effective in the event your open carry is taken.

[@TheBDD1970]

LOL, yeah as long as there is a cop nearby I know I have access to a G22 and an M4.

[@davidshattock9522]

I was in .the air training corps cadets as a kid during the cold war time got to shoot .22rifle.303lee Enfield's went to RAF camp in summer shot all sorts Inc hi power and all sorts

[@12thsonofisrael]

Firearms courses was taught in highschools in the US as a routine until the 1970s. There's still training available in many schools.

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[@jerseyjoe8637]

I'm curious as to what schools have the training, do you know of any by name?

[@michaelmcgee8011]

Are you referring to ROTC programs?

[@mr.cringles7080]

My school has a "Why Guns Are Bad" day. After the first period, the school will set up a scenario of a school shooting. Of course, parents are informed before it happens, students are restriced from a certain area if they do not participate and the guns used were just blank guns.

[@icedoutgames4051]

wow i didn't know that. They should really introduce it again with recent events... It would potentially make people more aware about self defence in the US where it is legal and maybe prevent more bad things from happening

[@geoperez2729]

CN is a game changer PERIOD! I’ll support him in everything he does he is our voice when people cant and are too afraid to stand up Fight/Speak

[@Steventrafford]

Nice to see a UK cop that recognises it’s social inequalities that produce criminality in most aspects. Most I’ve interacted with are far more jaded or just plain ignorant.

[@fedyno4reviews]

A high percentage of the ones in the MET are illiterate according to recent statistics. that's the Hellhole that modern London is though.

[@DallasJonez]

What do you mean by "social inequalities"

[@Steventrafford]

@@DallasJonez British Males that are expelled from schooling are 80% more likely to serve a custodial sentence, children from single parent families or children in care less likely to succeed in most metrics and more likely to live in Poverty. Poverty leads to criminality. So many believe the lie that were all born equal and that’s just not true. Tell that to kids born in slums in Delhi or Brazil. How is it that communities/countries with lowest criminality are the same that utilise tax, legislation and policy to support humans of all types and equalise opportunity? Riddle me that?

[@intello8953]

⁠@@DallasJonez I don’t know maybe no job opportunities or no money? I don’t know haha

[@DallasJonez]

@intello8953 those are economic inequalities. Social inequalities hints at the racist angle and where I start arguments on comment sections. There is no mass effort by powerful whites to keep black people down. Urbanization or suburbanization, bla bla bla. It's culture. It's cultural inequality. Change your culture.

[@MrFixItGa]

25:00 in, someone needs to tell him and ALL cops/former cops that something like over 50% of police have never held a gun before the academy. That means that until a cop is a few years in, your 15 year old son that's been raised on guns and has a rifle or a shotgun in his room, has more experience with guns than rookie cops do. I'm about to be 42. I've owned and been in possession of a gun since I was 10. A real gun, not a BB gun. I inherited my father's 12 ga after he died. I've been shooting and training with guns for almost 32 years. Don't let guys like him say these things and make us out to be uneducated hicks with no training.

[@richardhenry1969]

Absolutely the English tend to think they are above everyone. I learned gun safety from my grandfather a world War 2 veteran. In my family we learned as soon as you could hold it. We all had guns in our back windows. Schools were empty in November during deer season.

[@pouringblood]

Exactly… The majority of exemplary soldiers/marksmen that I’ve known of grew up as farm-boys.

[@chriscarnes87]

I know he’s not meaning every gun owner. But most? I would definitely agree. Just go to any public gun range and you’ll find that out. Really only people who actually want to carry generally get training.

[@richardhenry1969]

@@chriscarnes87 what really blows me away he comes to America and works at training America on gun use.

[@Justin_GFM]

@@richardhenry1969 Well he was a CTSFO, they’re pretty much the civilian SAS in the same way that FBI HRT is “domestic Delta.” I’m sure this man is better trained than most gun owners here besides those who were in SOF or well-trained police tactical units

[@joannleichliter4308]

"Back in the day," I am told, there were schools that did have firearms classes. Mine didn't, but I would've taken such a class; better yet, every student should have to take such a class now

[@theoutlawking9123]

Damn right, of all the things taught in schools, you would think self-defense would not only be one but be at the TOP of the list.

[@Voxphyle]

It wasn't taught in schools for me.. but I grew up in a community where most people hunted, so everyone I knew had to take a firearms safety class to hunt, and at a rather young age. And everyone is much safer as a result. If we want everyone who owns a firearm to be trained, what better way than providing basic firearm safety in schools? If nothing else so someone who finds one knows how to avoid discharging it unintentionally.

[@AcidAdventurer]

When I was in middle school in the mid 00's our school advertised the 4H shotgun team over the intercom. Not exactly a firearm class in school, but we did have to take hunters safety and we learned a lot about guns by being on the team and it was a school endorsed club and activity.

[@aphilipdent]

Very true. Eliminated due to the lead.

[@MrShadowpanther3]

My high school had a small range in the basement for the rifle team. All the young men who would come in from hunting just in time to get to school would have their weapons on a rack in their trucks. NEVER an issue. This was the 80's though.

[@jeffbeasom5227]

I think we should have mandatory firearm training in public schools. That way the training happens before they're old enough to buy a gun so the training can't be used as backdoor gun control.

[@Sentinel13bt]

thats what was actually taught in schools in Australia, my dad used to take his .22lr on the school bus for shooting class along with 20 others in the country. Semi-auto aswell, the military police ass-halt rifle stated by the media

[@jessedevilbiss8436]

My 12 year old has 5 years of experience. Including Pistol

[@jessedevilbiss8436]

@Luke Perkins 22 revolver was too heavy for him so I had to spot him. He was small for 7

[@seanvine39]

We used to have that pre 1990s. We had hunter’s safety in elementary school and it was mandatory for everyone.

[@Dan.50]

Citizens should be armed to defend their country from all threats foreign and domestic.

[@LarsAndersenFrihed]

It turns out that most enemies are members of the government or the police.

[@SuperSharpShooter.]

I should be armed. Other people should not.

[@WanDerer-rr8co]

Citizen... Check the definition of that word. I'm man... I don't require legal title. Or any thing acting as a proxy parent for me.

[@SuperSharpShooter.]

@@WanDerer-rr8co Loyal subject. Not citizen. I am not a participant ruler in my country. (Comrade). I am just a bloke. Subjected to the laws of the King. I am loyal because he has an army (and a police force) and I do not.

[@WanDerer-rr8co]

@@SuperSharpShooter. Aaah... I'm quite the opposite my good man... I can see where you are coming from, I really can. However... I have not taken the shackles of servitude, I'm not going to succumb to fear and let it control my actions, and I also find no value in life being subject to slavery, I would rather die than be held as a slave brother. I will stand up to tanks I will stand up to all order followers, because my number is much much greater than theirs. I see where you are at though and I can't judge you for adopting that position. I hope you can see where I am coming from and know it's a matter of truth and morality being principal, above all else.

[@joshuatoler1965]

years ago we had a guy from the UK who stayed at our house he lost his mind when he seen me open carrying a glock 23 he didn’t know what to think that just shows the difference between the countries.

[@vlogcity1111]

Lol!

[@Sanguinista.Daywalker]

CULTURAL...

[@tb-cg6vd]

Yup, in the UK the only people who want guns are criminals and psychopaths so you would look a bit scary.

[@dj_m19]

I'm from Europe and I'd freak out as well, it's just not a normal thing around here to even see a gun in person, let alone be okay with someone else carrying it in your presence

[@shortfattoad7317]

I live in central Europe, cops around where I live carry weapons, some even have H&K MP5 strapped up. But to see citizens carrying a weapon is unheard of. BTW, we have the largest militia army in Europe, possibly the world.

[@mentilreq]

"Sensible" discussions inevitably lead to England style laws.

[@Bamaboy352]

Bingo 👍

[@xxviceslikevipersxx]

Yup he lost me

[@josedorsaith5261]

Exactly. It all started with "common sense laws" here, too.

[@leveraction3]

you can have a sensible discussion all you want but when you're one you're speaking to has no sense at all your discussion is going to wasted ears, criminals are going to criminal, stupid is as stupid does so taking away everyone's firearms for one it's mistake is like punishing the many leading the sheepeople to slaughter

[@jpjp3873]

@@josedorsaith5261 Big difference in common sense conversation and "common sense" gun laws.

[@donutoplack2436]

My dad's class in high school had a semester of high school gym class dedicated to gun/ hunter safety. You would bring your firearm to school and put it in a safe in the principles office until the class and then again until you left. Boy how times have changed

[@Garviel.Loken.Knight.Errant.]

When I was in high school we had something similar. But most of our crew could just keep them in their trucks and cars till class then put them back when class was over. Boy how times have changed. I miss the old days when we had respect for firearms, family, society. And if people had beef with each other you just had a fist-o-cuffs and call it a day. Now kids wanna just shoot each other.

[@cw3728]

America was great back then

[@Garviel.Loken.Knight.Errant.]

@@cw3728 yep it sure was. We still had problems back in the day but nothing like the crap we got today.

[@MaxWray111]

I believe we rejected the UK's views on gun control in 1775.

[@CARTUNE.]

They find it strange to have a gun. I tend to be grossed out by those over here who don’t. 😅

[@Mitch_Conner75926]

Agreed

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

It's wild how they accept them for things like sports and pest control on a farm. Around USA sometimes you just drive by and see a dying animal and if you don't have something to put it out of it's misery then you drive away letting it suffer 😂 not exactly ideal. Lots of videos of some deer they get attacked or get a disease and go into siezures and you want something to put them out of the suffering. I'm assuming that's why they allow guns on farms for pest control and things like that but it's wild how if you shoot a baddy with it they'll probably lock you up. It's like the idea of a gun for self defense is foreign to them. Odd. For us in USA that's like, usually #1 top reason along with target practice, training, hunting, dispatching suffering animals ECT. They straight up tell you here that we own guns because of tyrannical governments 😂😂 yet they have suppressors.

[@erikmcclure912]

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[@simonmaguire5250]

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[@AnOriginalYouTuber]

My family used to be friends with a former swat officer. He said always being aware of suspicious people and situations is the best way to stay alive.

[@johnabbott3896]

That's good advice....the 2nd part is to never leave your house unarmed...You don't go looking for trouble, but are prepared if it finds you....

[@harrismagnum04]

@@johnabbott3896 or just don't live in a sh1t country, no danger of getting shot here

[@kelrik9968]

Criminals much prefer people with their nose planted in their phone rather than someone with their head on a swivel, aware of who & what is around them.

[@basillah7650]

Swat just shoots first then asks questions after they worse than any terrorist group due to all the prank calls they killed more people than any war US than been in.

[@basillah7650]

@@kelrik9968 Criminals don't even need to come to you if they want you dead they can just call swat on you and get the cops to take you out then take your stuff when they have finished due to shoot first nature of them.

[@lloyd9710]

I think we as Brits should have something similar to the 2nd amendment

[@Kraigmire]

I live in Canada so I had to take two courses to get my license for what we are allowed up here, with each course having a written and practical exam. I walked out of those courses saying they should be part of the high school curriculum. Not only did they teach you all about them and how to handle them safely, but the instructors had stories for almost any mishandling of them and the consequences. Those stories really made you respect firearms.

[@ericsfishingadventures4433]

I grew up in the 80s and 90s and back then firearms around us were normal. We had police officers teaching us about the seriousness and safety about them. Also in in elementary, middle school students and high school students.. 2 armed police officers were normal to see here and there. We never knew where, but we knew who they were. But we all knew them. I didn't grow up in a wuhite privileged area either, right around Detroit. Police were a normal existence and no they're not all bad. Back then things were different I guess.

[@michaelbrininstool4515]

If firearms licenses were nearly as ubiquitous as driver's licenses, I would be happy (not that I think they should be necessary). They don't have to own a firearm just like they don' t have to own a car. Instead of a license to own, A certification of passing a safety course.

[@daveonezero6258]

There are no state laws in Colorado for class requirements. Those were all optional. It just has to be an in person class. There are no requirements for content. What consequences did they talk about? it isn't a mystery guns are deadly.

[@Kraigmire]

@@daveonezero6258 The stories usually were scenarios/mishandlings resulting in negligent discharges. The instructors were so experienced (they trained the RCMP) that they had an example of every possible way you could do something wrong. It really hammered the lessons home.

[@Kraigmire]

@@michaelbrininstool4515 I like how you put it, "A certification of passing a safety course" better than a licensing system. As Colion mentioned, issuing licenses can be denied as a way of stopping ownership (as they were doing in New York), whereas passing a test should be objective. You pass, you can own firearms.

[@whiterabit09]

I want my police officers to have firearms. As well as my fellow civilians.

[@dawsonworthy1989]

If the people can't have guns the cops / government shouldn't have them either that is one thing that I respect with uk even tho I don't agree with no firearms at least no one has them over there so it's not as much as control seeing no one has them

[@MrSumone]

@@dawsonworthy1989 they have them they just don't regularly carry them.

[@clutchboi4038]

@@dawsonworthy1989 did you not listen to the interview? cops have many guns that civilians don't have.

[@roadrunner9560]

@@clutchboi4038 I think he caught that but the regular patrol cops don’t really have them

[@dalepres1]

If your fellow citizens had firearms you wouldn't need police officers.

[@jimcade8360]

Former Arizona cop here, I have told many people in debates (and sometimes in agreement) that firearm safety should be taught in school.

[@wood-wheel-wizard]

Definitely detective Dan

[@cyconlon908]

It was in the past

[@Patriot-bn9om]

I was in high school in the 1970's. We had a gun range IN THE SCHOOL. It was at the JROTC Department in the same building as classes going on just upstairs. We had 22's for marksmanship, M1903 rifles for drill and ceremonies, and full-auto M14 rifles for field training. We fired 22's in the range on a regular basis during class to earn shooting badges and awards. We kept all of the weapons in our JROTC arms vault. The M14's were hand-me-down rifles from the US Army as they were fielding M16's. We didn't fire the the M-14's in the range, but we had them for field exercises where we would fire blanks. And, I remember so many pickup trucks in the parking lot with rifles or shotguns on a gun rack in the rear window of the cab. Nobody ever misused a gun and nobody ever got shot at school. But, we learned and knew so much more about respecting firearms. It was completely normal and accepted by all. Today, all of that is completely unacceptable yet we have more shootings than ever.

[@bamtact]

Keep pushing fellows💪🏾👍🏾👏🏾

[@wallywest2360]

In regards to the "It's a different culture" argument. Yes, it is. But it wasn't always. The UK of today is the result of 40+ years of gun control. You don't have a "gun culture" there because the government has squashed that idea thoroughly. Go back a bit more, around WWII. It was very much a gun culture back then. The ONLY difference in America is we are a younger country and a bit behind the curve when it comes to oppressive government, and we have this pesky 2nd amendment that has at least slowed down the gun control push. As was said in the video, if you want to ban guns in the UK you just do it. AK-47, nope, turn them in or we send guys like him to your house armed to the teeth to take it from you and throw you in jail. That's how you create a "culture" that doesn't own guns as a general rule. And that's exactly what some groups want to do in America. And they will do it, it just takes time. Every new generation in America is born into a culture where there are more and more restrictions on gun ownership and use, and the UK style system is just around the corner. Just look at CA, they're like 90% of the way there already. It's not some kind of natural thing, oh people in the UK just don't own guns for the most part. It's only that way because the population has been groomed to believe that it's ok and normal to accept that level of control.

[@Timboykee]

In the US, "it's a different culture" goes well beyond gun ownership. It's a deep belief in having and retaining personal autonomy and that we the people authorize government to make and enforce laws for the benefit of the people; as opposed to being subjects of the crown where your being is under the thumb of a monarch or whatever minister.

[@johnerdis5094]

Well said

[@shanemous2451]

The bill of rights was hard won from the blood of our forefathers. Never let tyrants trample on them

[@xDOOM95]

Merica

[@suran396]

@@Timboykee I believe Wally West's point is that the difference in ideals, such as but certainly not limited to gun culture is sadly becoming less and less, as Americans are giving up their rights now at the same pace Brits were giving theirs up 30 - 50 years ago.

[@lescobrandon3047]

We Americans, especially police in service or retired like me, have been curious about UK police laws regarding firearms. Colion, thanks much. I’d welcome either of you two as recorder in my patrol car.

[@tonyp2632]

52:25 Before the 1960's shooting and gun safety were taught in school. The students would bring their own guns to class. My dad told me this. I'm 61 now but I remember in the late 60's and the 70's people, including my dad, would drive their trucks with their rifles hanging on a rifle rack on the back window. It was normal back then. This was in CA, go figure!

[@shanemous2451]

The communists have overtaken CA and the US population let them

[@gureno19]

Even in Australia...we used to take our 22s to school to do lunch time target shooting. You'd take it on a local bus with you.... gun ownership was more prolific than people think....the issue is this doesn't align with the new agenda that more guns equal more crime...

[@johnstark4723]

uh, I had it in the 60's and 70's

[@poodlescone9700]

Please do more of these interviews with experts from other countries. People need to understand the facts regarding gun ownership and how it compares to the rest of the world.

[@ericsfishingadventures4433]

I absolutely agree! I think Australia or Japan would be next great guest. Especially seeing as how the ex prime Minister of Japan was dispatched with a homemade pipe pew pew which has some of the strictest laws in the world!

[@aliciawarren644]

@@ericsfishingadventures4433 *Seconded.*

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

@@ericsfishingadventures4433 Ozzie Reviews is an excellent Australian gun channel run by a Queensland Police Officer, he would be a good candidate for Colion to interview, getting someone from Japan would be pretty unique since they're even more divorced from guns that Australia and the UK, I'm not sure who though (maybe ether a member of the JSDF or that Japanese libertarian who got arrested for printing his own revolver?).

[@AsmodeusT]

A man sat in a room full of guns says he don't have a motorcycle because he thinks they are dangerous 😂😂😂😂. That is America in a nutshell 😂😂😂.

[@js5584]

Yeah, I know that is funny, but weapon handling can be extremely safe... Riding motorcycles in the US is inherently dangerous on public roads.

[@AsmodeusT]

@@js5584 You're right about that one. I was out riding earlier. There was a MASSIVE traffic jam on the motorway (highway), and as the cars saw me coming, they were parting to make space for me to get through. My partner is American, and I thought, "If I was in America, they would not be doing this. If anything, the odd one would close the gap to stop me filtering, so I had to wait with them. It's insane. The culture you have towards motorbikes baffles me (no pun intended). No lane splitting is a good way to get bikes hit up the ass waiting in traffic. And when that happens to a bike, it's usually a serious injury, unlike the annoyance it normally is in a car. I live in England, btw. 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

[@js5584]

​@@AsmodeusTAgreed! I grew up in the UK and live in Texas. The roads in Texas are absolutely insane! Comparatively, my buddies I go shooting with are extremely safe 😂😂😂

[@dougtaylor7724]

This type of video discussion is what I always hoped KZbin would have on a daily basis. Enjoyed this chat immensely.

[@cpiper6338]

Dating myself a bit but, when I was in high school and in JROTC, we had firearms training IN school because we had a competition rifle team. Shooters from each participating school submitted their targets (verified by a range officer) and they were compared to the targets from the opposing school's team to determine the winner. We had an armory in the school basement with the firearms, ammunition and all of the paraphernalia (mats, bipods, spotting scopes, etc.) secured. Everything was paid for by the military (U.S. Army, in our case) AND the school district! We should definitely bring the training back... and maybe some films with pictures of firearms victim's wounds or autopsies to show the possible devastation. (Kind of like hose old driver's training films that showed every worst traffic accident imaginable.)

[@joshuasterling2144]

I unfortunately missed that era but we did have archery which I really enjoyed.

[@Christian-jx3nx]

Me too. I was a pretty good shot for a girl. Still am 😉

[@PInk77W1]

California 1972 they had guns at school for PE shooting class. No one got shot

[@cpiper6338]

Let's see. Cali in 72? Reagan was governor, right? JS. 🤔

[@davidbressler8270]

1976 Newark NJ NJIT formerly Newark College of Engineering had a range and a rifle team. I used to leave my rifle in the trunk of my car till classes ended and I could go practice. Only stayed there a year, I don't think the range lasted much longer. It was the only thing I liked about the school. No one ever got shot on the range, I can't say that about the rest of Newark.

[@TPaine1776]

In my town a lot of people open carry and in Walmart as well. Never seen anyone afraid of it. I have even seen them thank people for carrying.

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

Which part of America? I'd imagine that it would depend on the local culture, America from my understanding doesn't have a monolithic gun culture, one suburb near a Chicago once passed a handgun ban even worse than the UK did.

[@leonardwei3914]

@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 In Arizona, it's not exactly common to open carry, but it's not entirely out of the blue either. The few times I have observed people open carry, no one freaked out. And most of those examples were in a city setting. Also my observation, is that most people don't pay attention to their surroundings either. Settings and context also help. A man in Cowboy attire that is open carrying a loaded revolver in a small town is probably not going to get any negative feedback. If anything, tourists are going to go up to him and make inquiries, like say, my dad.

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

@@leonardwei3914 Your point of how most people don't pay much attention to their surroundings reminds me of how the Japanese man who killed Shinzo Abe was able to walk around with a shotgun in public in a supposedly anti gun country yet he was never reported, I heard even claims that he got to ride on a train with it. I think that a lot of people who identify as anti gun only do so because it's excepted by them of society but deep down they don't really care, as least not with the passion the government expects out of them.

[@modernspacegamer3273]

a few inaccuracies 1. You dont need an ammo safe for shotgun cartridges 2. you can have a 3 shot semi auto on a normal shotgun licnce

[@ringingsteel8729]

Have a father in law who found out he was dying, then simultaneously found out he had beaten a late stage cancer. The series of events over 6 months triggered a manic psychotic break that required hospitalization for a week. He lost his gun rights for the next five years. If I ever had mental problems I’d never seek treatment in the US now knowing how they strip your rights.

[@seaweeb2258]

As correct as you are, if things got really bad you could always find a therapist and pay for it out of pocket. At least that way it'll be more off the books. Just don't mention any psychotic breaks, or suicidal ideation.

[@jackiecorley8942]

That does not always happen

[@princessmarlena1359]

Sadly it’s very true, especially in blue states. I used to live in California and a friend of mine out there got 5150’d just because the stupid shrink took what he said completely out of context.

[@suran396]

@@seaweeb2258 no way in hell I trust any leftie gun hating therapist.

[@briancreech9990]

Gotta find the right shrink bro. I've been going to psychologist for almost a decade and psychiatrist for 5 years. I still have my guns.

[@TheLordNugget]

I served from 2011 to 2014. After getting out, I started losing my connection with my time in the corps. It felt like I'd lost my mind and hallucinated it all. To ground myself, I turned to the memory that always was fun, range days. My time at the range reminds me who I am. It keeps me sane. The mental health thing blocking gun ownership would only stop people from discussing their mental troubles and to withdraw from society that much more.

[@alexanderchenf1]

To expect the authorities to define who you are and to restrict or unrestrict you accordingly is laughable

[@artofthereal]

@@alexanderchenf1 Don't forget how the Soviet Union used "sluggish schizophrenia" to shut down dissidents. People with unpopular opinions are many times labeled as "nuts", while people who have popular opinions and truly are insane are treated as sane. There are cases like alzheimers where restrictions are necessary, but there is too much leeway to abuse this system.

[@zenstrata]

We used to have that culture Colion - firearms training was taught in schools, and you had to pass the class and demonstrate competence before you could graduate. Look at high school course books from the 60's and earlier. it was standard curriculum

[@gullepomp]

I missed that when I was an exchange student in 91/92, only got my drivers license. Did get to fire a shotgun and a22 rifle though with some people from church.

[@George-ph5pz]

Never let anyone tell you there's such a thing as "sensible licensing". I lost mine after a malicious ex made a call. No evidence required. No trial. No avenue for recourse. Total police state. There's a reason the 2nd Amended is so high on the list. Keep it there.

[@jkadude2010]

Would love to visit the UK. HOWEVER, for the beat cop to not carry a firearm is absurd. For people not to be able to carry a firearm is absurd. I’m reminded of the young soldier hacked to death in the middle of the street while people watched. 🤷🏼‍♂️No one could intervene for the soldier. They had to watch him die. NOT Ok.

[@jonnsmusich]

One example of a very rare occurrence. This kind of situation happens every day in the US. - Absurd is you projecting your personal experience on an entirely different culture.

[@ZhuJo99]

On our shooting range here in Slovakia we had once a policewomen from UK. It was her first time shooting ever. Probably also last one for long time. I simply don’t get it. She couldn’t understand how here we are able to carry, middle of europe. Well, different mentality…

[@trailblazer632]

They COULD have intervened. It was simply more dangerous to do so. And that increased threat will cow a lot of people

[@trailblazer632]

@@jonnsmusich according the guest here it happens all the time in the uk too just within the bounds of gang on gang crime that isn't spoken of. The difference is that same type of crime is talked about in public all the time.

[@alberto5770]

I am afraid part of the "cops don't need guns" comes from daddy state just opting to assume everyone is an ah instead of giving the chance to demonstrate. When police might recruit based on stereotypes instead of looking for the best candicate also you might be safer with the "beat cop" being unarmed. That said having a gun on you is just like having a dick, you might have it 24/7, that never implies you will use it 24/7 (I hope).

[@AnAmericanPatriot1555]

Hello you great Americans.

[@frontlinepfknr]

Hello you pesky gun loving free American citizens

[@getitdonegarage]

Hello there

[@PlenthAviation]

Man I can’t wait to move to your beautiful country and for me to get out the commie kingdom

[@بندهخدا-ي2ي]

Hello Homie 💪🏻👋🏼🫡 #2AForever

[@exist7415]

Yo

[@fiftyonenorth]

Solid copper. My best mate is an ARV bloke/instructor and breacher in the UK and he’s almost exactly the same. Gentle giant, family man, level headed and pulling the trigger is an absolute last resort. Great video Colion, cheers lads.

[@kevinparker461]

But this plod gets it wrong about owning semi auto shotguns in the UK, i have had a number of auto shotguns & before they made it you had to have it converted to only 3 shots. Pissed me right off!! my semi auto 5 shot Winchester down to 3 shots!. lots off rabbits & pigeons owe their lives to that BS law!!

[@willc3310]

@@kevinparker461 Not quite true. He's wrong on the "No No" part of semi auto shottys, but Semi-auto with more than 3 shots are unfortunately now classed as a section 1 firearm and can be held as such on a section 1 firearm cert. Many BASC lobbyists are trying to have all shotguns classified down to section 2 again I believe. Assuming of course if you're throwing your 5 shot into the mix. Section 1(3A) of the 1968 Act as amended by section 2(3) of the 1988 Act requires that any smooth-bore gun adapted to have a non-detachable magazine incapable of holding more than two cartridges must bear a Proof House mark and have been certified to that effect. This requirement applies not only to those smooth-bore guns already in circulation which have been adapted, but also to those smooth- bore guns which are adapted by the maker subsequent to manufacture but prior to distribution or sale. In both cases such guns are regarded as having been ‘adapted’ within the meaning of section 1(3A) of the 1968 Act, which was inserted by 2(3) of the 1988 Act.

[@druid189189]

"Mandatory training" hurts the poorest people, who can't afford it. And then...who gets to decide "what" gets trained?

[@RezaQin]

I live in Texas and I carry everywhere. Maybe Britain wouldn't need SFOs if they actually gave their citizens back their rights.

[@emberfist8347]

Nah the SFOs are still needed as they are the tactical teams for the police and the altenative would be using the SAS for those duties. For non-Brits. That would be equivalent to using Delta Force for CT duties on US soil something that was made illegal in the 1870s. I would always take having local police handle domestic counter-terrorism over the military.

[@Wow55579]

looking at how fked up america is im good thanks xd

[@ayomrwhiteigotdrip6235]

have both lmao

[@pitchforkpeasant6219]

Politicians don’t trust their citizens. Wonder why. Sarc

[@danielmarshall4587]

@@pitchforkpeasant6219 You've hit the nail on the head, all the love from the UK.

[@craigszwed]

The FBI stats have shown 3 out of 4 violent crimes are committed with almost anything other than some kind of firearm. That said, you raised a highly relevant and vital issue regarding inner city or youth violence involving firearms, which also goes to gang and organized crime violence. The issues of economic and social marginalization and personal greed do not need to define is. The bottom line is that each of us, no matter what our background, we all make our own decisions as to how we choose to respond to our surroundings, and thereby we define ourselves as victims, victims who victimize others, or someone who overcomes circumstances despite our personal situation.

[@georgetreepwood1119]

As the Grandson of a British citizen, I say introduce more wildlife to the U.K. These boars and bears need a home...

[@jonathanhicks140]

Oh we have wild boar in the UK again now!

[@dirkkeeler1348]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I lived in England for almost 2 years while serving a Church mission as a young man back in 1979-80 and I still have a fondness for the Brits. My first gun was given to me by my dad when I was about 9 yrs old. A single shot 22LR bolt action. He was a farmer and we lived way out in the country on the farm. In the "ideal world," everyone should start learning to shoot with a 22-caliber in both pistol and rifle. Hunting rabbits that ate our crops was a great way to learn gun safety, accuracy, and maintenance of the firearm. The single shot got old VERY fast. He had the sweetest pump action 22LR ever. I wish I could remember what make it was. Anyway, thanks for the video.

[@GruntProof]

Just look at history: there are citizens, and then there are peasants

[@thehoundsoftindalos8456]

Citizens have firearms, serfs don't.

[@geraldervin2128]

Excellent common sense discussion! As a retired 26 yr police sergeant I commend both of you for having this great conversation and I agree with both of You! I always conceal carry and train regularly and encourage everyone I know to do the same!! Never give the bad guy the knowledge of knowing your armed!!! Thanks guys!