Township Lessons from the Cape of Good Hope | Gangs, Race and Poverty 20 years after Apartheid Doc

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Michael Fischer

Michael Fischer

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@craigsassman1918
@craigsassman1918 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up in this community, in these very streets. I attended school in Lavender Hill. I made a concious decision that there is a better life for me. I moved out when I was 23, got educated, admitted as an advocate and never looked back. My coloured brothers and sisters need to stop feeling sorry for themselves and waiting on government to give them the things they want in life. It's not going to happen. Create your own destiny.
@Mathilda5xp
@Mathilda5xp 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Craig Sassman.
@sahiblindberg
@sahiblindberg Жыл бұрын
What you have done is very admirable. However the cold fact is that this is very unlikely possible for the majority. There is a term called "tokenism" which applies quite well. It means that even though some individuals can be able to lift themselves from misery, there are structures that make it practically impossible for the masses.
@craigsassman1918
@craigsassman1918 Жыл бұрын
@@sahiblindberg it is possible for the majority. Moreso now than ever, especially for the youth. There are so many opportunities which were never there during my youth. The ladders to climb out of the pit are right there but its the choices keeping them trapped. The poverty mentality is a hereditary disease being passed down from generation to generation. The cure? Realising that you are not destined to live in poverty and that the government is not reponsible for giving you a comfortable life. Change the mindset and you change the community.
@LVC85costa
@LVC85costa Жыл бұрын
​@@sahiblindbergit's just survivor bias. That's what you see everyday and its this kind of colored they ask for solutions for the rest. So what should I take from it? Move out of the hood? Okay let's all move out of the hood.
@shimmer4771
@shimmer4771 3 ай бұрын
​@@craigsassman1918our ancestors built this country and we're denied opportunities. It's really unfair to deny the truth for the majority of people. You're success is not the same for others.
@loveistheonlywaytogod1994
@loveistheonlywaytogod1994 6 жыл бұрын
Apartheid was introduced by the British. It was 40 years (too) long and it was wrong in any way you look at it... We moved on. We are all native in South Africa. -We all carry unique DNA as a nation, we are connected. We share the Khoi and San DNA - all of us. We made restitution and paid a heavy price. . Most of us had to start from the bottom again. It was and still is painful, a struggle we now share. That's how it goes. I feel no more debt. Our family went out of our way to help people and still do it to this day. I have never attacked or swore at a black person. I treat them with the respect and the love they deserve. To be honest, we have built a church in a township, free of charge, years ago. I have been advertising for black people for work, free of charge , for years. It's my favorite jop - its borne out of love, and I never even told people before this day. My father sponsored a black medical student, and we took lessons to study Setswana, Xhosa and other languages. In SA today, we only do our best and pray for the rest. We refuse to let us feel unwelcome in our own country, we live and let live, we treat people with the utmost respect. We also do not carry hate in our hearts.. Those who find reasons to hate will be hated themselves, in the end. Rather, we live with joy and gratitude to our Creator.
@curtisdelor5097
@curtisdelor5097 7 жыл бұрын
Both Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu said in 2009 that the ANC no longer represented the ANC they fought long and hard for.
@romanengelbrecht6717
@romanengelbrecht6717 4 жыл бұрын
Oh you mean Mason's who orchestrated it all from the beginning? 😂😂😂
@spannerintheworks1190
@spannerintheworks1190 4 жыл бұрын
The ANC couldn't wait for Mandela to die so they could reek havoc.
@wesley-eland
@wesley-eland 8 жыл бұрын
I worked a little bit in Lavender Hill in a soup kitchen and thank you for giving me a bigger picture of what is going on and making this documentry about it!
@luckygoliath1027
@luckygoliath1027 8 жыл бұрын
these people vote for white because they want to be white and don't to be close to Africans
@Mcgif21
@Mcgif21 5 жыл бұрын
These people implementing positivity and "light" in these South African townships are truly extraordinary and beautiful people.
@dianamincher6479
@dianamincher6479 3 жыл бұрын
Its time to stop suffering and enjoying life.
@muimelelimakhanthisa4981
@muimelelimakhanthisa4981 8 жыл бұрын
"You better close your mouth" "I don't know if zuma is for everyone" That woman made my day haha
@joryvandersloot7211
@joryvandersloot7211 9 жыл бұрын
Thank your precious ANC! for making SA the toilet it is.
@tinamadubela2611
@tinamadubela2611 6 жыл бұрын
were you forced for the shit u talking?mind ur ass u fool
@bauzblak2957
@bauzblak2957 6 жыл бұрын
Blame the government for your lack of education, responsibility and introspection. Awesome
@johnroach1101
@johnroach1101 6 жыл бұрын
The colonisers rule for 400 years the blacks for 2o years and you blame the blacks
@1Rokyro
@1Rokyro 5 жыл бұрын
Because it was so much better during Apartheid. Well it was, for the whites! Boo-hoo.
@PHANKS987
@PHANKS987 5 жыл бұрын
Now South Africa is more equal, more people are suffering. If you don't like it, work to uplift ALL of South Africa not just the whites. If whites are required to give back some of their land, it would only be fair.
@russelhawley7777
@russelhawley7777 9 жыл бұрын
This documentary is a well-rounded snapshot of a moment in time of a country on the brink of greatness or disaster. Having visited Cape Town for the first time earlier this year, there was a palpable anxiety in the air for the desire to jump this hurdle of change. Everyone I spoke to had a very different perspective on the current state, but generally speaking everyone also still had 'hope' too. I fear that with the loss of the gentle guiding hand of someone like Mandela, the country may not make it through these crucial times - the next few short years will tell if the various communities, governments, and leaders of all stripes will truly come together. My heart is with them and their struggle.
@chocochick1238
@chocochick1238 4 жыл бұрын
God bless these inspirational women 🙏 The strength of some of these women would put some of the women in my country to shame, with their complaints about the most trivial of things. Good luck to each and everyone of these people, trying very hard to change things for the better! 👏
@Del-Canada
@Del-Canada 10 жыл бұрын
I drove by the flats many times while living in Cape Town. South Africa is an amazing country and I can't wait until I go back.
@Del-Canada
@Del-Canada 7 жыл бұрын
Hi.
@blazekabera1865
@blazekabera1865 6 жыл бұрын
try to take a walk at cape flats ... then great my ancestors please .
@vdotme
@vdotme 9 жыл бұрын
That guy with the garden and guitar is an inspiration.
@barbaras5874
@barbaras5874 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, he is a huge inspiration, living in such terrible conditions and still be focused on positive change and things to make him happy. I wish I could tell him that he is such an inspiration!
@rominaceciliaperezponce
@rominaceciliaperezponce 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed an inspiration, and the kid that wants to be a social worker to help other kids like him, and the women and others that helps the people around, they will make some day the difference, should be more like them.
@americainebousonko
@americainebousonko 5 жыл бұрын
Vim de Zim you mean the guitar Radio
@estherkusher3460
@estherkusher3460 9 жыл бұрын
In the past 15 years I have built three houses with practically no money or help. You just do it. Build yourself a decent house, a small one. If you don't know how, then learn. It is no one's responsibility but your own.
@amadiouf1485
@amadiouf1485 4 жыл бұрын
@@judok1426 bulshits as hell
@sloeberdoet
@sloeberdoet 4 жыл бұрын
@@amadiouf1485 This is true. My daughter who is a half cast was for three months in South Africa. She said she didn't felt safe at all. Still a lot of tension, jealousy and other things playing between different races there. Luckily she was staying with a nice muslim woman in an area that was a bit safe. She said beautiful country but it is the people who live in it that make me don't want to live there. Much too dangerous and tensed.
@voodoo_child5897
@voodoo_child5897 8 жыл бұрын
it's so heart warming to hear that girl's hopes at 40:15 of wanting to become a social worker.. kind hearted girl with a kind smile
@DerInterpreter
@DerInterpreter 6 жыл бұрын
I cried during her interventions. She's so beautiful and sweet.
@skorzenygruppen
@skorzenygruppen 6 жыл бұрын
She;ll end up raped,with burning tires around her neck,this is the Mrs.Mandela technique
@JieFeiLau2801
@JieFeiLau2801 9 жыл бұрын
A well done documentary. Thank you so much for shedding light on the life people are living in cape town. May God bless them. xx
@JeffreyB1983
@JeffreyB1983 5 жыл бұрын
Positive comment: South African accents are awesome!
@bilaalal-afriki8697
@bilaalal-afriki8697 4 жыл бұрын
F*ck that!
@Lindiwendaba
@Lindiwendaba 10 жыл бұрын
We need to stop to hate each other because we are all human beings with feelings and apartheid created hate between coloureds and blacks.We need to STOP.
@faircove
@faircove 9 жыл бұрын
Well said...its time to trust each other and build a nation. With luck it might happen when the younger generation that did not experience the past come into power...thats my hope.
@RikkieMulder
@RikkieMulder 4 жыл бұрын
Well I don't hate anyone... it's called growing up and maturing. Its a natural process that happens in a human beings life.
@noluthandosibeko2195
@noluthandosibeko2195 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@TrIcKZZ6HD
@TrIcKZZ6HD 7 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic documentary, very inspiring to see people in the townships being undeterred by the hardships they face while acknowledging them at the same time. Its a pity though that the comments are all about the inadequacy of black rule and not the triumph of the human spirit.
@richardviebrock3771
@richardviebrock3771 10 жыл бұрын
Michael - Amazing! A heart-wrenching yet inspirational story told to its fullest. I'm overwhelmed by how well you were able to shed light onto the hardships of CT, specifically that of Lavender Hill. It's nice to see some work highlighting the other side of Cape Town, the side that typically gets lost in all of the pictures of mountains, beaches, and beautiful homes along the coast. From one PAB volunteer to another, great job! I'll be sure to pass this along.
@mich8589
@mich8589 9 жыл бұрын
Richard Viebrock Thank you so much!
@IRFDeguzman
@IRFDeguzman 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a South African living abroad for over 21 went back to cape town in 2010 to take care of my mother who was having cancer and just a day before leaving for abroad I got smash and grab my bag with all my papers id's travel documents so I could travel only after a week I receive temporary documents to travel ,,, to be honest I got scared of my own country ... I would love to go back under the apartheid more safe ,, to think that I was one of the victims of the riots in high school in the 1980's it's heart broken
@jjjosephr
@jjjosephr 6 жыл бұрын
irene deguzman p
@jhart7304
@jhart7304 5 жыл бұрын
@@lwazimorris4973 haha
@RikkieMulder
@RikkieMulder 4 жыл бұрын
@@orangegrainsniper5903 Hahaha.... you are a special kind of stupid.
@RikkieMulder
@RikkieMulder 4 жыл бұрын
@@lwazimorris4973 Got some facts to back your statement because your feelings don't matter... facts do.
@paulelago9453
@paulelago9453 3 жыл бұрын
Black people were killed, imprisoned and discriminated against, you are stupid saying you want to get to Apartheid, because you got robbed FOH.
@kellyjacobs4218
@kellyjacobs4218 10 жыл бұрын
Well done to Michael Fischer on this brilliant reflection of how life is like for people living on the Cape Flats. We need to all stand together instead of bashing one another.
@mich8589
@mich8589 9 жыл бұрын
Kelly Jacobs Thank you so much! If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the NGO Philisa Abafazi in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org
@kellyjacobs4218
@kellyjacobs4218 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will be in contact with the organisation. Well done once again.
@shananagans5
@shananagans5 5 жыл бұрын
Africa is an amazing continent. They have all kinds of natural resources and most countries could thrive if they could get it together politically. It's sad to see so much potential unrealized due to corruption and political dysfunction.
@vanessasoares4764
@vanessasoares4764 2 жыл бұрын
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@alecbarreto5419
@alecbarreto5419 9 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the cape coloured accents, i miss it so much....
@hanszwiener3549
@hanszwiener3549 9 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Michael Fischer for that brilliant documentary! I know SA since 1982 and have many friends also among the coloured community, you gave perfect insight into daily life with all the problems and difficulties. Similiar situations you can observe in the Braszilian favelas...
@mich8589
@mich8589 9 жыл бұрын
Hans Zwiener Thank you so much! If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the NGO Philisa Abafazi in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org
@martinnugent329
@martinnugent329 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you to the producers of this wonderfully informative documentary. Amazing to see hope in the eyes and smiles on the faces of those who have so little but offer so much to their community.
@JuanRamirez-ot3ro
@JuanRamirez-ot3ro 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary! I wish to see more documentaries of this kind!
@nomazizizembe8662
@nomazizizembe8662 Жыл бұрын
Watching from cape Town cape Town as a township Capetownian I never left the city I c this every day I have stay in township all my life nothing is emproving till this day the slum are getting worse
@carisv2834
@carisv2834 10 жыл бұрын
This is a much needed and honest documentary, representing Cape Town in its truest form. Thank you Mr. Fischer.
@mich8589
@mich8589 9 жыл бұрын
Charlene Van Der Byl Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the NGO Philisa Abafazi in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org
@jonathanbock8435
@jonathanbock8435 10 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching this video.. I learned so much about Cape Flats (Cape Town). THANKS!
@avenireducationcenter2902
@avenireducationcenter2902 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael for charing this ! Really good work !! Hope that the people behind will get the message.
@philisaabafazi
@philisaabafazi 10 жыл бұрын
I am moved looking at the movie once again, I am appreciating the fact Michael Fisher that you were able to come and tell our stories of hartship yet hope, thank you again
@luckygoliath1027
@luckygoliath1027 8 жыл бұрын
these coloured must go to dutch or England
@MultiMcginty
@MultiMcginty 6 жыл бұрын
I lived in Capetown for a few months in 2009 when I was working on a project. I enjoyed my time there but the only side I saw of the city was the safe prosperous parts. We passed the Cape Flats on my way from the airport and the person driving said 'don't ever go there'. There was an edginess to the possibility of violent crime too in the South Africans I encountered. They all had electrified fences and huge snarling dogs. I also heard nightmarish tales of violent burglary.
@KingNeutral1
@KingNeutral1 7 жыл бұрын
I like how every group in South Africa thinks the other has it better!
@len2son
@len2son 5 жыл бұрын
From the evidence in this vid everyone [every 'coloured'] in these shacks are struggling just to live. Cannot imagine anywhere on Earth where people have it worse than this. Where do you live sir?/[ma'am]
@xhalanga
@xhalanga 5 жыл бұрын
@@len2son You have never been to Cape Town. Visit here soon and please make sure you do go to the slums. You won't believe what you see when you're here. Mother's and children living in tin shacks which get cold in winter. With no running water or electricity. All of them Black and make about 40% if Cape Town population. Then compare them with where Coloureds and Whites live. Then come back here and tell the same story?
@xhalanga
@xhalanga 5 жыл бұрын
It cannot be argued that the White South Africans do have it better than the rest of the other groups. This is the legacy of apartheid which continues to tilt the playground for their benefit. 80% land (and its resources) they confiscated in 1913 has not been returned. They do as they please in that land for their own benefit while everyone else works for them and get paid peanuts. Despite the fact that they're a minority 9% they control everything. The first thing to do is to return the land to the rightful owners so that we Africans can own our Africa and do whatever we want with it for our own benefit. Then we'll be ultimately free regardless of whatever everyone's saying.
@lwazimorris4973
@lwazimorris4973 5 жыл бұрын
Not we think whites are ones having its fruitful not others.
@xhalanga
@xhalanga 5 жыл бұрын
@@judok1426 most stupid comment I've ever come across on KZbin
@haraldkonrad353
@haraldkonrad353 6 жыл бұрын
The people interviewed impress me a lot... real, honest, and living in hard circumstances but have a rational and calm manner. It would be easy to live among them. Sadly they are victimized from within, intimidated by gangs and thugs.
@andrewrobertson3894
@andrewrobertson3894 7 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance but why don't these black communities do something themselves to change their lot in life? They could build better housing than those shacks, they could paint public spaces, clean the trash away, plant communal vegetable gardens, team up and dispose of these drug dealers and bandits... Can they not do that, at least? Or am I so wrong?
@barbaras5874
@barbaras5874 6 жыл бұрын
I thought this exactly as I watched it. Until people take responsibility for their lives and communities and focus their minds on positive change, nothing will change. Saying how terrible everything is and blaming other races, will never improve anything. It is a terrible situation they are in, but they must come together and build something better for their children. Someone else is not going to do it for them. They need to move on from race and blame.
@jasonthandononjela3191
@jasonthandononjela3191 6 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance but why don't these Coloured communities do something themselves to change their lot in life? They could build better housing than those shacks, they could paint public spaces, clean the trash away, plant communal vegetable gardens, team up and dispose of these drug dealers and bandits... Can they not do that, at least? Or am I so wrong?
@f19ure
@f19ure 6 жыл бұрын
Many of these people in the doc are actually "coloured," and not black.
@rickravenrumney
@rickravenrumney 6 жыл бұрын
Forgive me but what is the difference between colored and black. In the States Black was called colored, now called African American, even though not one of them has been born in Africa for 10 Generations. To me they are just "Black". When they throw in the -African suffix they are just putting themselves apart, to make themselves special. That's their problem; instead of thinking they are Americans like everyone else here. Do you find that a problem in SA as well? When I was in Joe-Berg two years ago a SA friend told me one problem is that if you were born there, they should all think they are South Africans, White, Black and the like. If not as one people, then what? Disaster. Good luck mate.
@colbybitner5059
@colbybitner5059 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Robertson if they have the money I guess, but if only a few did and the rest continue this bs then it would be futile, it’s the same in inner cities in the U.S they’re filthy and the residents just throw trash on the ground and don’t care, but will blame the mayor,city, government, everyone except for taking responsibility themselves. It’s easier to have a excuse of blaming everyone else and not taking ownership for their own roles in it. If you want better then go work for it legally.
@kahlilsykies9139
@kahlilsykies9139 9 жыл бұрын
This is a very telling documentary , though I'm American the issues of race politics and economics this documentary focuses on apply here too. Diversity and multicultralism for various reasons are difficult to manage , though politically incorrect to say so. There isn't a successful example in the world. For those familiar with Canada and or Brazil and the issues they face when dealing with race. Though of coarse many other people in multiracial societies live life in harmony with others , some befriend date marry people of other ethnicities and or prefer to live in multi racial societies. But the unspoken honest truth is that living in a post colonial multiracial multi ethnic society brings about many challenges that have yet to be solved. And often make one ask if thought hard enough about , if they can be solved. If people can't handle respecting tolerating and feeling comfortable around people of different ethnic groups as well as government and judicial systems providing equal treatment , then societal diversity will continue to be like a functioning drug addict. I love true honest media like this , it's a cold world. This represents social and societal truth not only for South Africa but other multicultural countries like here in America too , good piece.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 9 жыл бұрын
Homogenous societies are the only long term sustainable model.
@kahlilsykies9139
@kahlilsykies9139 9 жыл бұрын
Gregory Malchuk Many many would agree. Living in America , especially here in California , being ethnically homogenous just isn't a reality. But as far as social sustainability , I do agree. I'm a none racist person , I'm also a person given to much deep thought. Social diversity for many , not all people causes or results in unwanted friction and tension , willful segregation indeed. Even when one looks at societies that are monoracial but ethnically diverse such as India , Philippines and anywhere else with such diversity there are the same problems. But since these are realities it's really a great idea to actually make living conditions as fair and comfortable for everyone with dialogue regarding the differences of different groups , more could be done to improve the social climate of multi ethnic societies. Hey I'm a black guy who would go crazy without Mexican food. Plus I need some Indian food here and there too. So for people like me , making the best out of a multi ethnic is of interest. It was really cool to see people actually talking about these things in South Africa. Because it doesn't happen here in America. Sometimes we have to try to make the best out of what we have to work with and the situation we have.
@deanbooysen8101
@deanbooysen8101 9 жыл бұрын
Kahlil Sykies Dearest friend, the liberation movement in South Africa spoke of non-racialism (Black consciousness movement) not multiculturalism (Rainbow nation). This embraces diversity by definition, but somewhere among the rhetoric we lost this critical element. Secondly, the liberation was political and not economic. So we find now, in South Africa, what is called economic apartheid. The 400 years of colonialism and apartheid clearly shifted economic, cultural and political capital in the hands of the European settlers. Hence the notion of white privilege. This infusion and confusion together with the neo-liberal capitalist agendas makes any initiative to change disabled. I am optimistic ,as a South African, that we can overcome. Not sure how, but positive non the less,
@kahlilsykies9139
@kahlilsykies9139 9 жыл бұрын
Dean Booysen I think post Mandela presidency ended the ( Rainbow nation ) ideal , am I wrong by you're view ?. It seems to me the current and former president since Mandela have had a whole different agenda for South Africa. Since Mandela I agree black consciousness/cultural movement not multiculturalism has been the agenda of ruling political black South Africans. Much like here in America a veil of multiculturalism is used through media and so forth but the system here is designed to cater to white Americans , while only creating enclaves and in some cases maintaning significant areas for wich other ethnic and racial Americans can express and advertise their culture. It seems from all I've seen of South Africa to be at least very simular , am I wrong ?. America is supposed to welcome equally people of all races ethnicities cultures and religions in the modern times we live in. But gives the clear advantage in " privilege " " upward mobility " to white Americans despite preaching the opposite. But what makes the situation more complicated is the often friction between significant numbers of people of different ethnic groups , black/white white/Hispanic black/Hispanic or between born Americans of immigrant groups Ethiopian/Eritrean Ethiopian/Somalian. Many Americans now live in Cities and Towns with ethnic diversity yet often live in mono ethnic neighborhoods and often schools , while many do , many don't communicate with people of other ethnicities outside the work force , if you actually have a job now days. Segregation by choice , population demographic and income has become the pervasive reality here most commonly observed. But I've meat and made friends and aquaintances with people of all races. I think dialogue , being able to talk about the issues in relations to race and ethnicity are the starting points for any multi-ethnic society to really function full force. South Africa is a country I think has made profound progress in a very short period. I wouldn't believe it if it wasn't true how much progress has been made since 1994. I think the fact so much positive has happened since the end of apartheid is much reason to be optimistic. Just this here and the series " Debate " is something that's still just too uncomfortable for many people here in America , and we've all been walking to , eating at , going to school where we please , except the deep south states since the 1870's with limited exceptions elsewhere. I'd say South Africa with the short cummings it does have also might have a lot to look forward to as well , never know.
@deanbooysen8101
@deanbooysen8101 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Kahlil thanks for the response, much appreciated. The transition from apartheid to democracy was negotiated and is constantly negotiated. Mandela and his successors were and are constrained by this same power brokerage. So we can blame whatever on them it won't change much. You are right, the same pattern is present in SA wrt the rhetoric of multiculturalism. America has thought our hegemonic leaders the 'talk left, walk right' approach very well. As seen by them both funding the apartheid government and strongly criticising it at the same time. The friction amongst people is the result of mass media campaigns... In my oppinion, humans in general abuse the use of adjectives (black, white, Indian, gay, Muslim, etc.) when speaking about humans... It's a case of ignorance and scientific illiteracy. Science has disproved the notion of 'race' as not having any empirical basis. I agree with you, dialogue is essential and I admire your efforts. Indeed this will end someday, but judging by comment sections on posts related to racial issues... We have some strange perspectives in our world. Lol peace
@danielfukyouston5319
@danielfukyouston5319 4 жыл бұрын
These ppl seem like good people. With morals and values. I hope their condition improves. They seem like they would appreciate it and like they wanna work. Wish i had the financial means to help. Im gonna start being more appreciative/thankful of what i have.
@Zagg777
@Zagg777 8 жыл бұрын
No one should have expected things to have turned out differently.
@Geraldbux0401
@Geraldbux0401 8 жыл бұрын
Its just a learning curve, I don't know why people are getting excited?
@twane881
@twane881 6 жыл бұрын
@@Geraldbux0401 lol a learning curve for 24 years??
@Geraldbux0401
@Geraldbux0401 6 жыл бұрын
Purrin like a Kitten, Do you not know that typically a new university takes about 50 years before people can take it seriously? What more of a country, come on people lets not get too giddy! At 24 were you not being stupid? What more of a country?
@twane881
@twane881 6 жыл бұрын
@@Geraldbux0401what a dumb example... white people still gets blamed for everything, not a learning curve to me!
@Geraldbux0401
@Geraldbux0401 6 жыл бұрын
@@twane881 Learning curve is not a blame game but is based on a failure rate.
@tshepim3368
@tshepim3368 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching these documentaries just to understand the other side of life and how the life they're living came about, instead of judging. But as a soft heart person, these documentaries always depresses me.. Hence I wish I had the powers to change their situation💔
@Mirgeee
@Mirgeee 3 жыл бұрын
39:29 The most touching and inspiring talk I have ever heard from a 13-yo. I wish him the best of luck.
@jeanoliver3573
@jeanoliver3573 5 жыл бұрын
Very sad I had no idea heart sore to see my fellow SA brothers and sisters suffer may God be with you all in my thoughts and prayers
@Jurica-mtb
@Jurica-mtb 6 жыл бұрын
18:19 "When the music play I can play along with them." What a cool dude. I like his attitude.
@whatsonhermind1768
@whatsonhermind1768 8 жыл бұрын
I really like this, I'm American and I never realized how apartheid must still be affecting the social structure of South Africa. It is terribly sad to see people living in poverty and not being able to feel safe in their community, but I really respect the work people like the social worker are doing and also how the police want to be seen as someone you could come to for assistance and not an intimidating force
@saraallison9469
@saraallison9469 8 жыл бұрын
It's the colored people who suffer the most. Africans are at the top. I am from sa
@nonhlanhlapreciousRadebe
@nonhlanhlapreciousRadebe 10 жыл бұрын
There are so many programs that can help communities around South Africa; with public private partnership; ordinary people voluntering their time to uplift their community and their skills. What we need is the spirit of service to help our communities. Grassroot level organizations and NGO's are the way forward, drug rehabilitation programs, education programs and communities organizing themselves for community safety and cleaning; the government has a role to play yes...but the bigger role should come from the people mobalizing themselves. The goverments role is providing the resources for the grassroot level organizations and NGO's to function. Apartheid did a lot to people; including telling them that they were powerless to make positive changes in their communities. I think mental health should also be put at the forefront; because there are many people that are also struggling with depression in communities like Lavender Hill in CPT, Alexander Township in JHB, Orange Farm in the VAAL etc. And community gardens and parks are some of the initiatives that local government can also help to fund. I dont the solution is giving up; its every South Africans responsibility to help; those that are blessed with more should help to give back to their communities.
@mich8589
@mich8589 9 жыл бұрын
nonhlanhla precious Radebe Thank you for your comment! If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the NGO Philisa Abafazi in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org
@alexhayden2303
@alexhayden2303 4 жыл бұрын
Bantu expansion entered South Africa where Swaziland is. That tribe broke off, went to Natal and travelled to Eastern Cape, arrived in northern Eastern Cape around 1760, they began crossing the fish river. The AmaGaleca tribe was fleeing from AmaRharabe tribe, these Xhosa tribes intermarried with Khoi-Khoi & the Khoi helped them drive the bushmen out of the Eastern cape & also fought wars against the frontier settlers who were the first in this region prior to any Xhosa ever going there. Confirmed by the Portuguese Ship wreck survivors from the 1660s. They only made peace about 5 years ago these 2 Xhosa tribes. The Zulu left Swaziland to form Zululand. The other tribes, Venda, Pedi came into the country much later hence why they are in the north where the land was empty. The Portuguese have records of no Bantus in South Africa at all, they come across the first Bantu at the Rio Cobre river half way up Mozambique.
@jklxn
@jklxn 7 жыл бұрын
Just as in any adverse situation, the ones that do best are the ones who say "enough is enough, i decided to make the choice to not be like that"...they took the hard way out...
@hellowaves
@hellowaves 10 жыл бұрын
Great documentary, living overseas now due to leaving SA because of the crime. My wife said today, she will never go back to SA to live, the crime is severe. I'm the white boy from the wrong side of the tracks, she an affluent coloured - the irony is hilarious!
@afrikaazanialuti
@afrikaazanialuti 10 жыл бұрын
You are right the crime in SA is a problem, I am happy for you & your wife, However SA is a dramatically different place today than it was 10 years ago, although more needs to be done much has already been accomplished. Poverty & violence are not unique to SA I find the same challenges here in DC.
@hellowaves
@hellowaves 10 жыл бұрын
Dramatically different for all the wrong reasons. Look at what happened in Parliament yesterday. It is not called a congress of baboons for nothing. The ANC have ruined SA, heading the same way as Zim's, even Zim's ex-patriots say that and these are my Shona bud. I left SA 4 years ago, been back several times, believe it or not, SA is more expensive than the UK!
@afrikaazanialuti
@afrikaazanialuti 10 жыл бұрын
Nh Swine Oh okay... 62.15% of the population would disagree with you though...
@hasanx4637
@hasanx4637 10 жыл бұрын
good for you! I think more people like you should leave South Africa! Everyone else is welcome.
@hellowaves
@hellowaves 10 жыл бұрын
You just jealous I had the opportunity to leave and you are unfortunately stuck in the now banana republic (except Cape Town, it is still run by the DA and the best part of South Africa!).
@ZahaMagic
@ZahaMagic 8 жыл бұрын
As long people in communities keep relying on the government or the police to fix their problem, the problem will continue. I do believe that there are police officers who want the best for the communities, the people of the communities have to participate. We need to want better for ourselves. Focus on solutions not the problem.
@idontknowanymore7689
@idontknowanymore7689 3 жыл бұрын
As a coloured learning your history and the culture and how coloureds were in a sense brewed is so interesting and kind of fulfilling.
@thunder852za
@thunder852za 8 жыл бұрын
Just one comment, the informal settlements in Cape Town are growing, but its because the city has one of the lowest unemployment rates in SA, and thus people come for work. The city struggles to keep up with the influx of people from the Eastern Cape. I expected this documentary to mention this. Hopefully this will slow now that DA has taken over NMB.
@awayfarersdiary2642
@awayfarersdiary2642 6 жыл бұрын
Great movie! I know I've seen it some time ago, I can remember it. Thanks for depicting the situation and telling what's going on.
@jessiedavis4407
@jessiedavis4407 9 жыл бұрын
This was really worth the watch. Great way to gain insight
@bvbocan1
@bvbocan1 7 жыл бұрын
It's important to note that the people featured in this film do not consider themselves as black. They were categorized as "coloured", and treated better than the blacks. In SA, once you are mixed or asian, you are considered coloured and treated better than the full race blacks.
@lwazimorris4973
@lwazimorris4973 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being honest. God bless you.
@AMan-xy3lx
@AMan-xy3lx 5 жыл бұрын
@Troy Dield Yeah, but population growth is an international problem affecting all the basic resources on a worldwide scale. The issue here is that they are portraying an image of being marginalised by black people when the situation is much more complex. I'd safely say that 90% of the nations which were under colonial power faced a traumatic reality when they got independence. They fought for freedom and never had a chance to look at factors like economic growth and psychological effects of the condition. At most the African continent is rather new when it comes to self rule and mistakes on top of grid and other natured deficiencies are still at play. It's like a baby taking it's first steps. In all honesty most of the southern parts of Africa have handled it rather well in comparison to most places that have gone through colonialism or suppression. This is not a justification, it's the reality. Africa will at some point find it's feet and bring a stop to under the table foreign influence (which is not in any African's best interest) as far as corporate power. The world may judge us for now and paint an image to the world that we are savages and assassinate our character, but we've been through worse and we'll get there. When we do, these people who live with us and shit on the same soil we shit on will come around and call themselves one with us because they are shape shifters... they shift for the better side. It may not be in this generation or the next ( which it actually could in reality, we are making great progress), but it will happen. We are survivors my friend...
@xx1590
@xx1590 9 жыл бұрын
It amazes me that anyone expected anything different.
@len2son
@len2son 5 жыл бұрын
Well where were YOU when all the solutions were needed?
@heathermaich8966
@heathermaich8966 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing people interviewed. Thank you
@fieldsofgold775
@fieldsofgold775 8 жыл бұрын
Very informative.Such hardship for these people.
@jeremyfyffer9025
@jeremyfyffer9025 Жыл бұрын
This video is so relevant now
@mpodumo
@mpodumo 10 жыл бұрын
Dear Lucinder you are doing a great work
@ledeol5605
@ledeol5605 7 жыл бұрын
Very good documentary. Visiting Capetown I met a few people who told me the real city was behind the mountain. That was true. Like in Brazil, poor and coloured/Black have no opportunities to change their violent/unjust reality, without a compensation plan for the next generation.
@lwazimorris4973
@lwazimorris4973 5 жыл бұрын
Bullshit!!..whites people are reason why blacks/coloureds are living in these conditions. And its hard for current government to fix what apartheid did and its needed trillions to do do. so considering economy of the country that huge sum will never be produced. you guys hate blacks to core. y'all don't have sympathy to blacks lives.
@candykittens5611
@candykittens5611 8 жыл бұрын
How can someone from a different race/group define who you are? That is the problem. No one from another race has the right to tell you who you are and what you should be. That was one of the indigenous's people's biggest mistakes. When you allow someone from outside of your race to define you, they have conquered yo and will continue to rule over you for centuries.
@ziniahaywood1008
@ziniahaywood1008 6 жыл бұрын
I love that the Abafazi Bethu program had been extended to include boys and young men - because there's no progress without a full-blown girl- and boy-child re-education.
@fernandomargellan3176
@fernandomargellan3176 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot even the so called most advanced country US people still live in poverty , in Europe there is poverty, in China there is also poverty in Australia there exists poverty which south Africa is not an exception to . But Africa shall rise
@rebeccasreflections4947
@rebeccasreflections4947 7 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore this video.. 💕 such a touching doccie of the Cape complexities.
@RehabNowSouthAfrica
@RehabNowSouthAfrica 9 жыл бұрын
Very good documentary.
@baracka112
@baracka112 7 жыл бұрын
Cape Town if you've ever gone there, could easily be a world class city. I've never gone to a city that has it's landscape. Too bad the people that live there are like this. Even if you go on long street at night you have to be careful as there's a lot of people who can hassle you
@dro258
@dro258 4 жыл бұрын
You just a poes in the City
@teenieneenie630
@teenieneenie630 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary!
@nomazizizembe8662
@nomazizizembe8662 2 жыл бұрын
Watching from Cape town South Africa I have stay all my life in township I C this every day
@silvercloud1276
@silvercloud1276 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, for this interesting and educational video Michael !!
@peterrooke5336
@peterrooke5336 4 жыл бұрын
Get well soon South Africa ❤️
@DailyDoseofDillanJ
@DailyDoseofDillanJ 7 жыл бұрын
Alot of us coloured don't know we all have atleast 3% Khoi San blood an we not black at all. We have so much history that we were the first ones here in South Africa but Anc will make sure they in power because they don't want our history to take over. We royalty. ANC Also wouldn't want the history to fade away so they will remain in power! This is facts. Right now there is a movement that's taking place! Lets support it.
@blazekabera1865
@blazekabera1865 6 жыл бұрын
what history kkkkkkkkkk????? coloureds are MIXED FINISHED CLAR . if not black then get that fuck out of Africa because never heard SUCH RACE
@AMan-xy3lx
@AMan-xy3lx 5 жыл бұрын
Dude khoisan people fall under the negroid which means they fall under the black side of the race spectrum. Coloureds are a mix... just like Hispanics... the main races are negoid (black people) Caucasiod (white people) and mongoloid (asians). So yeah, you're half black...the other half of you also considers you black...black people consider you black. Now what you consider yourself is your problem but i suggest you play for the accepting side 😂...or stick on your own then start complaining about your imaginary problems that only you face!
@adelarsen9776
@adelarsen9776 7 жыл бұрын
Since Mugabe, Mandela and Black Empowerment came to power life is more prosperous. Can anyone spot the mistake in that sentence ?
@augustineminimbi5668
@augustineminimbi5668 6 жыл бұрын
You
@smangamhlongo7565
@smangamhlongo7565 5 жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake we made is by letting u and your people stay after 1994
@len2son
@len2son 5 жыл бұрын
@@smangamhlongo7565 Where was he supposed to go? Countries won't just take people because we don't want them anymore.
@judok1426
@judok1426 5 жыл бұрын
@@smangamhlongo7565 lol racist.
@izakizakizak1234
@izakizakizak1234 4 жыл бұрын
yes, you gave credit to a black. fucking stupid. but i know you're sarcastic. I'm realistic
@lotus5791
@lotus5791 6 жыл бұрын
I hope things will get better for South Africa and its people.
@ajs41
@ajs41 8 жыл бұрын
The only solution is for people to stop being obsessed with race, and for everyone to live together.
@odeiup
@odeiup 6 жыл бұрын
Andy JS if only :c
@henrikg7661
@henrikg7661 6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you just solved the biggest problem on earth. Well done sir, now we can all live happy ever after since you came up with the solution.
@touraneindanke
@touraneindanke 5 жыл бұрын
Went there on vacation and did bring my money and respect with me! That was a waste of time. So many more places to visit where you are respected.
@richardlitwin4046
@richardlitwin4046 8 жыл бұрын
Autonomy for the Western Cape!
@anyalecawale635
@anyalecawale635 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Hillier-Hillson never, your're finished
@godzilladestroyscities1757
@godzilladestroyscities1757 7 жыл бұрын
It's odd that so many documentaries have people saying things were better under apartheid. The conditions in SA apparently have been getting worse. When the USSR fell, many Russians said things were better under communism than the chaos that existed after the first few years. Now things appear to be as good as they're going to get in Russia.
@AMan-xy3lx
@AMan-xy3lx 5 жыл бұрын
It's as odd as coming to Asia and everyone think we live in trees in Africa... it's called propaganda.
@MrBlackbamboo
@MrBlackbamboo 7 жыл бұрын
I lived in SA during apartheid all race had jobs also was safe to walk about at night. I left SA 5 year before Mandela was in power, then went back to live 7 years later my god the street were not safe. went to work come home to an empty house 'Robbed' went to police we were informed we were number 13 to be robbed in two days
@barbarasunday3514
@barbarasunday3514 3 жыл бұрын
If American children were being taught about this, maybe they would not take so much for granted.. I have seen homeless camps but in most of my country we are so blessed
@willy34561
@willy34561 10 жыл бұрын
this guy hanging out of the taxi looks like R.Kelly.I lm from c.town with all our heartships I still think its a great place compare to here in brazil where I find myself now.crime here is ten times more as well as discrimination against black and people of colour.im missing s,a. hope to return soon.brazil is like apartheid south Africa I know im 43 years old and know the system.
@janaexo.107
@janaexo.107 3 жыл бұрын
0:43 , this really brought me to tears , joh , life is so unfair , I can't.......🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@patagonia8084
@patagonia8084 Жыл бұрын
Me 2 faaar away from RSA i cryed. Huggs to all the people seen on the video. much ❤ from France
@starleenasims5203
@starleenasims5203 7 жыл бұрын
You see what actually happend after Apartheid is that not just black people suffer, white people in africa suffer to. Both races suffer and I feel like both races should be equal.
@romanengelbrecht6717
@romanengelbrecht6717 4 жыл бұрын
BotchedBeauty cuz only white and black people exist
@vangoghmatisse1
@vangoghmatisse1 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative this video was. I've learned so much.
@nonhlanhlapreciousRadebe
@nonhlanhlapreciousRadebe 10 жыл бұрын
The only way forward is with grassroot level organizations and the community; sadly the government is not the solution.
@MrSpringbokfan
@MrSpringbokfan 9 жыл бұрын
The only way forward is with the reinstitution of white rule.
@mariansaldo1
@mariansaldo1 6 жыл бұрын
Government is never the solution to anything. Ever. People across the globe have got to realize this.
@dudeman5234
@dudeman5234 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrSpringbokfan ,sorry but that will never happen ,there never be any white rule in any south Africa and African countries
@RikkieMulder
@RikkieMulder 4 жыл бұрын
@@dudeman5234 never is a strong word, especially when its been proved wrong plenty of times before.
@dudeman5234
@dudeman5234 4 жыл бұрын
@@RikkieMulder never means never and nothing more
@isaaccpt6643
@isaaccpt6643 4 жыл бұрын
Great video so moving!
@__SM__1
@__SM__1 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload.. kid at 39:33 has a smart future I hope. she looks like a smart one
@mich8589
@mich8589 9 жыл бұрын
SID MIC Hi! If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the Philisa Abafazi projects in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org
@michaelseven9719
@michaelseven9719 7 жыл бұрын
The solution stares us in the face ....lets not be foolish enough to forget the legacy of apartheid ....but lets look ahead to the future (blame and anger which serve no useful purpose) should be set aside and we must work together to solve and build a better future for all ... its not that hard(set aside the big "I" and look toward the Greater "we".
@Koup_TV_
@Koup_TV_ Ай бұрын
I'm watching this 10 years after it was uploaded. The sad part is that nothing has changed. In fact, conditions have worsened... It's almost like it was designed this way...
@malcolmcampbell1968
@malcolmcampbell1968 6 жыл бұрын
It's horrific how humans treat each other it really is...
@unathitwani7250
@unathitwani7250 4 жыл бұрын
The communities in the townships need a new generation of readers. when I grew up I never read any book, my parent tried but i just did not want to read, it was painful to do so. Now I look back I understand the importance of reading books, I asked her today why she did not force me or even spank me , she could not explain why I had to read I guess, she's not educated herself. In Mzansi as a people we need a new culture, reading books and not drinking alcohol (Not attacking anyone) . My colleague, Congolese, thought drinking and having fun during weekends was an S.A culture , you know we could be sharing books and attending book clubs during that time. I want to start an organisation in Khayelitsha, doing it for the kids Bro, because the public school are failing the kids, I'm also a product of public school if you may know
@THE.REAL.CHOPPER
@THE.REAL.CHOPPER 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I've been saying for the past few years..... If only I could say what I REALLY wanted to as a coloured man. I will say as a person of colour that CAPE TOWN was in habited 1st by the khoi (coloured).
@agrid2608
@agrid2608 4 жыл бұрын
khoi doesn't equal Coloured. Cape Town Coloureds are overwhelmingly Asian-African creoles. Many don't even have any hunter-gatherer genetics. *Quantitatively* the genetic testing shows (as does history) that most of the original pastoral Khoi clans were absorbed into the Xhosa umbrella. Some of the genes are in the tswana and coloured as well.
@THE.REAL.CHOPPER
@THE.REAL.CHOPPER 4 жыл бұрын
Where the heck does Asian come in, do some more research.... You were are on the right track but somewhere along the line took major left turn, coloured culture has come from watering down of this continents 1st inhabitants mainly by the British.... Personal ill hunt an gather the fuck outta any terrain you put me in so I quantitatively believe have no believe in ur comment
@agrid2608
@agrid2608 4 жыл бұрын
@@THE.REAL.CHOPPER If you don't know that Cape Town "Coloured" residents consist of slaves brought in by the Dutch East India company from the Dutch East Indies (modern day Indonesia) starting from 1652 intermingled with slaves from Madagascar, Mozambique and Angola, as well as mixed with local Xhosa over the last few centuries then perhaps you need to do a little more research about our country.
@liampetersen7548
@liampetersen7548 3 жыл бұрын
@@agrid2608 moenie Kak praat
@agrid2608
@agrid2608 3 жыл бұрын
@@liampetersen7548 Problem with truth apparently. Read some history. Start with the Hasselt and the Amersfoort in 1658.
@harrybeau1712
@harrybeau1712 3 жыл бұрын
That poor woman with tears in her eyes - The unfairness, the inequality, the lack of compassion in a country which could give them basic but proper housing - and how many billionaires are there in the world?
@AnnBoylen
@AnnBoylen 8 жыл бұрын
2 Peace officers in one sector? We have that many in one block in Manhattan! This is just atrocious.
@natashaabdurahman4026
@natashaabdurahman4026 3 жыл бұрын
Wait till you find out we have 1 cop per 2 areas
@stevenwilliams1497
@stevenwilliams1497 6 жыл бұрын
What an inspiring doco god bless you all.
@sibusisosiso9727
@sibusisosiso9727 7 жыл бұрын
What I know in cpt a black person can't walk freely in a coloured area if his or her unknown but coloureds r walking freely in gugulethu langa philippi khayelitsha In all black townships so this says a lot bout coloured mentality
@joeday397
@joeday397 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody can safely walk in any area they dont know....easy targets by doing so
@neeqjdm
@neeqjdm 6 жыл бұрын
We as the coloured group and our grandparents and great grandparents in cape town where forcibly removed from areas in capetown which are today occupied by the fairer skinned minority.
@calebalban143
@calebalban143 6 жыл бұрын
The guy with the garden is a legend
@chokkan7
@chokkan7 4 жыл бұрын
When I watch a doc like this, and listen to people complain about a lack of equality, then I start to wonder if their notion of equality is that we're all someday reduced to wallowing in the same sty.
@Lovelylove4everyone
@Lovelylove4everyone 8 жыл бұрын
I believe when the Israelis and the Palestinians embrace and love one another and invite each other into their hearts and hearths then the world's children will finally all dance in fields of sunflowers and we will all love and live together as one big loving family.
@saraallison9469
@saraallison9469 8 жыл бұрын
Won't ever happen
@LukeVesterggard
@LukeVesterggard 7 жыл бұрын
can anyone help me, is this just "it was sad, it's sad, but it was also sad" or is there a part of this video, where you get an explanation ?
@Cerl84
@Cerl84 10 жыл бұрын
Is this the only township in Cape Town?? Is it the one with the worst living conditions? why are they really there with their cameras?
@carisv2834
@carisv2834 9 жыл бұрын
no, there are several townships in Cape Town...some heavily infested with drugs, crime, unemployment and poverty. Despite these social issues the people of Cape Town are some of the kindest people in the world...always optimistic and hopeful for better days.
@James-fe7wd
@James-fe7wd 9 жыл бұрын
Delft and Langa especially - bad bad places to walk into by accident.
@mich8589
@mich8589 9 жыл бұрын
Cerl84 Lavender Hill surely is not the only township around Cape Town. It was chosen to illustrate current issues like racial identity, gang violence and poverty in a primarily coloured context hence representing the Cape provinces' demographic realities. If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the NGO Philisa Abafazi in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org
@webranger1962
@webranger1962 9 жыл бұрын
+Michael Fischer South Africa is the very model of a socialist utopia. Don't you think we did enough already?
@AnnieLouie
@AnnieLouie 8 жыл бұрын
+Jack Vand I agree 100 percent
@peterfrancis3865
@peterfrancis3865 3 жыл бұрын
We coloureds will be saved by our HEAVENLY FATHER.
@wc3350
@wc3350 6 жыл бұрын
Situation can be solved. - All coloureds and whites move to Eastern, Western, and Northern Capes and vote for independence from South Africa. Rename country Capetonia or Kapsetonia. - Help from other country to form military. - Ensue food security of country by starting more farms and rebuild fishing industry and fish farms. - Aquire foreign investment for infrastructure. - Build single level and trilevel housing complete with bikepaths, schools, soccer/cricket fields, Shops, and markets , manufacturing jobs, construction jobs, trade labor apprentice, and community centers 5 miles outside capetown in various areas for poor Capetonians. - Build commuter rail from multiple poor areas to the city of Capetown for jobs. - Reconstruct southern portion of (including the flats) capetown into high rise appartments, markets, financial district, and tourist area. - Allow rich foreigners to become citizens and buy businesses who will also invest in the country. - Two child policy for low earners (offer money for sterilization) and start a birth license fee paid to gov from middle income persons to super rich (adjusted for income). - Purchase high IQ sperm from foreign countries and pay poor women to produce 1 child. - Start no tobacco/alcohol campaign and healthy food and exercise campaign in the schools. After school programs (sports/crafts/study) until 5pm. Free for lower income. A fee for middle income and up (adjusted for income). - Engineer 75% of beaches near capetown for tourism. Create hiking path for all of Table mountain. Create city wide bike path and commuter rail or subway. - Start 20 team rugby and soccer leagues. - Build more Universities and trade schools. -Secure trade deals from foreign countries. - Build national rail network. - Start fashion, music, and art industry.
@judok1426
@judok1426 5 жыл бұрын
Did you really just write this all out for people who are blaming you for the problem?
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