GI Joe and Vintage Star Wars trade ! ( THIS DID NOT GO WELL!)

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GI Joe and Vintage Star Wars trade ! ( THIS DID NOT GO WELL!)
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A collector came in with a trade claiming to be worth $8,000 of 12 Inch G. I. Joes, Star Wars Action Figures, and Six Million Dollar Man Action Figures. He bought them off a friend's mom aft he passed. Despite not knowing how much they were worth he took his friend at his word. We find out that there were a lot of issues with these action figures as well as a decline in interest as well as value.
In the early 1960s, Hasbro was looking to create a new toy line that would appeal to boys. They came up with the concept of a 12-inch action figure, and in 1964, they released the first GI Joe. The original GI Joe was a military-themed figure, and it was marketed as the "Real American Hero." The figure was a huge success, and Hasbro soon released a range of accessories and outfits for it.
In the late 1960s, the Vietnam War was in full swing, and Hasbro faced criticism for its militaristic toy line. In response, they shifted the focus of the line away from the military and towards adventure and exploration. They released figures like the Adventure Team Commander, who was dressed in safari gear, and the Sea Adventurer, who wore a diving suit.
The GI Joe line continued to be popular throughout the 1970s, but by the end of the decade, interest was starting to wane. Hasbro tried to revive the line in the early 1980s with a new, smaller 3.75-inch line, but it wasn't until the mid-2000s that the 12-inch line was brought back, this time marketed towards adult collectors.
In the 1970s, the popularity of the GI Joes began to wane, and Hasbro made several changes to the line. The most significant of these changes was the introduction of the smaller, 3.75-inch figures in 1982. These figures were more affordable and allowed for a wider range of play options, but they lacked the detail and articulation of the larger figures.
Despite the popularity of the smaller figures, collectors have continued to be drawn to the 12-inch GI Joes. These figures are highly detailed and offer a glimpse into the history of action figures as a whole. They are also highly valuable, with rare examples fetching high prices at auction.
It was one of the first toy lines to feature an extensive range of accessories and outfits, and it paved the way for other action figure lines like Star Wars.
In 1977, George Lucas released Star Wars, a space opera that quickly became a cultural phenomenon. The film's success led to a demand for merchandise, and Kenner was tasked with creating a line of toys based on the film.
Kenner faced a challenge - the film was released in May of 1977, but the toys wouldn't be ready in time for Christmas. In a stroke of marketing genius, Kenner created the Early Bird Certificate Package. The package contained a certificate that could be mailed in for four figures that would be shipped in early 1978. The package was a huge success, and it ensured that Kenner's Star Wars line would be a hit.
The Star Wars line was based on the film's characters, and it included figures like Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, and Darth Vader. The figures were 3.75 inches tall and featured five points of articulation. They also came with accessories like lightsabers and blasters.
The Star Wars line was a massive success, and it continued to be popular throughout the 1980s. Kenner released new figures and vehicles based on the sequels, and the line helped to establish Star Wars as a lasting cultural phenomenon.
The popularity of the Star Wars figures quickly surpassed even that of the film itself, and Kenner released a wide range of new figures over the next few years. They introduced new characters, vehicles, and playsets, and the line continued to be a massive success.
In addition to the original figures, Kenner also released a series of "Power of the Force" figures in the mid-1980s. These figures were larger and more detailed than the original line, but they were not as popular with collectors.
Today, vintage Star Wars figures are highly sought-after collectibles. The original figures are especially valuable, with rare examples fetching high prices at auction. The popularity of the Star Wars franchise has continued to grow over the years, and new figures are still being produced today.
Kenner was a toy company that was founded in 1947 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The company initially produced a wide range of toys, including Play-Doh, Easy-Bake Oven, and Spirograph. However, they are best known for their action figures.
Kenner was selected to produce the Star Wars figures in 1977, and this contract helped to solidify their place in the toy industry. They continued to produce a wide range of action figures over the years, including lines based on popular franchises like Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones, and Batman

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@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
How did you like this one?
@DoubleSpy
@DoubleSpy Жыл бұрын
The editing is getting better every episode.
@spt_killerwood
@spt_killerwood Жыл бұрын
Man to be honest I was just waiting for Ryan to say just get out lol. Good vid and bring more content guys
@joemclain3378
@joemclain3378 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s spot on with retail expectations for a wholesale transaction . These book values are never current to the market
@DRAGOINTHEHOUSE
@DRAGOINTHEHOUSE Жыл бұрын
That's why you should always buy stuff cus you like it , not to try to get rich off it in the future, lol . Chances are you might not get your money back .
@CFCMahomet
@CFCMahomet Жыл бұрын
Very good… you deserved the Doritos at the end!
@patluvsvettes
@patluvsvettes Жыл бұрын
That poor guy confused a hobby with an investment! Never confuse the two!
@saxonnz3711
@saxonnz3711 27 күн бұрын
Well said
@CRL365
@CRL365 8 ай бұрын
Why do I get the feeling this guy didn’t pay that woman a dime 😆
@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind
@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind 8 ай бұрын
That's a possibility with how often he keeps saying it... it's a non factor in the end... If he would of gotten everything for 100$ does that mean he's selling everything for 100$ (to get his money back?) - No, he's ultimately selling everything for it's actual value, not what he paid for it
@Livelaughlimpbizkit
@Livelaughlimpbizkit 8 ай бұрын
Yep, had that feeling too
@Burtronic
@Burtronic 8 ай бұрын
Aye, he was just saying what he got into it for to save face in taking what it was worth to the buyers.
@secretsquirrel6718
@secretsquirrel6718 7 ай бұрын
Stole it when doing some drywall repairs.😂
@1997CARDSxx
@1997CARDSxx 7 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking! He said he paid $6500 in the beginning to the cameras and then he told the guy he paid $4500…. I wouldn’t buy shit from this dude
@RighAlban
@RighAlban 6 ай бұрын
To be fair if you want retail money sell it yourself, what kind of person tries to sell retail to a retailer.
@aaronspeck1644
@aaronspeck1644 10 ай бұрын
Selling your dead friend's stuff and throwing a fit about it when you don't get the same overprice you paid is just gross and annoying.
@Punisherfan123
@Punisherfan123 7 ай бұрын
Where did he throw a fit? He was upset about the price clearly, but he sat there calmly, haggled, and ended up working out a deal he liked enough to take. Where did he do anything disgusting? What did he do that's immoral? He got a deal that the everyone agreed on, is it wrong of him to try to get a better deal and then get worked down to a more reasonable one? Is bartering wrong now?
@TheJackson4eva
@TheJackson4eva 12 күн бұрын
@@Punisherfan123 you dont have to be throwing a literal tantrum to be annoying to work with. he moaned at every price that was thrown out lmfao
@orvil9223
@orvil9223 6 ай бұрын
So, th dude paid $4500 without knowing how much it was really worth, and now he's mad no one will cover his loss?
@richardrobinson2539
@richardrobinson2539 7 ай бұрын
The seller didn’t have a clue and showed his complete ignorance. The expert/toy store owner was very fair with him. Fun to watch.
@larrymansfield9393
@larrymansfield9393 Ай бұрын
The patience on display here is inspiring 🤣
@royderouin7510
@royderouin7510 7 ай бұрын
Guy showed up next day with grandma's Beanie baby collection ready to deal
@mjlives5428
@mjlives5428 6 ай бұрын
ROFL!!!! Been down that route myself so I totally get this joke!His starting price would be 75k for Lady Di.Ebay sold are at 1 dollar meanwhile.
@SwoopGD
@SwoopGD 7 ай бұрын
This guy was the most obvious type of grifter - "dead friend," "I paid this much," pretending to not be knowledgeable yet every item is stickered with its actual value. Too many red flags.
@Cwjespersen
@Cwjespersen 7 ай бұрын
Trying to pass newer weapons as original… dude knew what he was doing. The list of red flags is long.
@2-pistols
@2-pistols 7 ай бұрын
Also the seller has no interest in anything he has when he is explaining the pieces to him, yeah yeah you can put a gun with princess Leia. No dumbass she has to have the correct gun that goes with her. He thinks because he drove 2 and half hours he gets whatever price he wants? Dude that old lady took you for a big ride
@gergnotsloh
@gergnotsloh 7 ай бұрын
I have my doubts he actually paid that "old lady" that much or even if she exists at all.@@2-pistols
@Matt_Wilson01
@Matt_Wilson01 7 ай бұрын
It’s 100% his personal collection ain’t pulling the wool over my eyes
@wesleywyndam-pryce4081
@wesleywyndam-pryce4081 7 ай бұрын
seems liket he dude had a stall or something with all the sticker pricing
@robertaguilar9951
@robertaguilar9951 Ай бұрын
14:24 worst comment he made, “I don’t want to lose money!” 10/10 when you’re selling to a reseller, you’re going to lose money. If you want to make your money back or more, sell it yourself!!
@Horrordelic
@Horrordelic 27 күн бұрын
Indeed!
@Cody0ne5
@Cody0ne5 21 күн бұрын
Right lmao he wanted like 6 grand for all that crap and buddy was like "Best I can do is 2 for it all" lol
@mothmanmedia8511
@mothmanmedia8511 17 күн бұрын
My dad owned a comic store when I was a kid and did ball card shows and took me. Seeing this guy reminded me of how many times you get this exact situation. So many guys just like this claiming they know exactly the worth based off unsold eBay listings and not taking into consideration your overhead. Not to mention they take up a whole day of labor going back and forth with you till the point you don’t even wanna look at it. It’s the part of the business that really feels like work.
@dwightrenfield2241
@dwightrenfield2241 16 күн бұрын
Yup. If he’s so confident of the value, he needs to sell it on eBay his damn self.
@thegodfatheroftoys3349
@thegodfatheroftoys3349 4 сағат бұрын
There is nothing as infuriating when somebody shows me what something is selling for on eBay, as they scroll down through 100 listings for the same item. If 50 guys are selling it for 100 bucks, and nobody is buying it, it’s not worth 100 bucks. Old doesn’t always mean high dollar. If you sell it for 100 and it’s finally goes for 50, then it was only worth 50. People need to learn how selling to a retail shop works. He’s not running a museum, he’s running a business
@IM-xs3uv
@IM-xs3uv Жыл бұрын
The value of anything is whatever the other guy is willing to pay for it.
@shootermcgavin1208
@shootermcgavin1208 9 ай бұрын
Not when there’s plenty of recent sales data out there for all to see. How do you think he’s coming up with offer amount? What you’re saying only applies to unique or one of a kind items with no real data to back up the price.
@TheBman292
@TheBman292 9 ай бұрын
Your 100% right the store is not in the business just to break even or loose money
@cyphersigma1
@cyphersigma1 9 ай бұрын
Just come across your channel and this was my first video. impressed how you kept your carm with the customers.
@Bigtimecharliepotatoes
@Bigtimecharliepotatoes 9 ай бұрын
Thanks pawn stars Rick the lowballer 😂
@jebstuart4004
@jebstuart4004 8 ай бұрын
Of course ! A dude asked me : i' m looking for a Luke stormtrooper on vintage Potf card . I give you 300. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ok clown, stay away.
@mcflyav8
@mcflyav8 Жыл бұрын
You were really honest with the guy. Unfortunately, as the generation who played with these Joes dies off, there will be fewer and fewer collectors for them. I'm a child of the 80's, so I personally have no nostalgia for these items except for the Star Wars and a few of those hot wheels. I did however love the artwork on those Batman prints. Great episode!
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yea, and I think Star Wars has more lasting power than the 12 inch. Maybe because of the new universe.
@MathewWoodard
@MathewWoodard 2 ай бұрын
“But it’s got a yoda in there” is my favorite quote from this video
@EmoEmu
@EmoEmu Ай бұрын
Original 1977 Baby Yoda!!!
@thegodfatheroftoys3349
@thegodfatheroftoys3349 23 күн бұрын
Yoda was 80/81
@dwightrenfield2241
@dwightrenfield2241 16 күн бұрын
The joke obviously dropped a steamy turd on your head as it flew over.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 10 ай бұрын
It's a generational thing. GI Joe nostalgists are pushing 70, Hot Wheels 65, and Star Wars in their 50s. The competitive market is entrepreneurs collecting their childhood 20-30 years previously, not 40-60 years because there's fewer people wanting the same thing.
@GamingTaylor
@GamingTaylor 9 ай бұрын
I wonder what will happen to the Pokemon card market when 90's kids turn 70
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk 7 ай бұрын
Drives me nuts people walking in to a store expecting to sell to them for retail price.
@DoubleSpy
@DoubleSpy Жыл бұрын
I just realized this episode that this is very much shot like a documentary series. I don't know who you are camera man, but your killing it. If you are also the editor your killing that too. The tension was real this episode.
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
He is the cinematographer and the editor! @MattWaltonChannel on youtube
@jraney69
@jraney69 8 ай бұрын
This guy doesnt listen, and does respect the rules of the hobby. You cant just throw random accessories in with a figure and say its good. So in the end, mom made all the money😂
@user-pf9mt7tz5u
@user-pf9mt7tz5u 10 ай бұрын
Doubt he paid $4500 for that stuff. I bet he got it for free or much much lower. He was trying to grift TF with that number. Everyone upset with TF, well the seller doesn't have to sell it to them. They gave him an offer, a simple no thanks and be on his way. The stuff he had is practically junk. The Star Wars cases were the best thing. Everything else was very worn and mostly undesirable.
@One21Jiggawatts
@One21Jiggawatts 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think he paid for it. If he did he was probably trying to grift an old lady and screwed himself.
@secretsquirrel6718
@secretsquirrel6718 7 ай бұрын
Probably he got it all for next to nothing. Looked on ebay and figured he'd make 4500$
@OttoTheWeim
@OttoTheWeim 2 күн бұрын
I don’t think that is necessarily true. He said it was his friend and the man that died (as just about every collector ever) over values his collection based on outdated market prices. His wife was probably told or had an idea of the outdated value that he bragged to her about. The fat man paid under what he was told the value was. He was even talking how he was under the impression he vastly undervalued them at a toy show to “blow them out” but obviously they didn’t sell, which shows he didn’t have a grasp on the market.
@emmanuelgonzalez4945
@emmanuelgonzalez4945 7 ай бұрын
How could this be so boring but yet sooooo entertaining?
@secretsquirrel6718
@secretsquirrel6718 7 ай бұрын
Watching a nerd argue with a Bozo😂
@ManCave1972
@ManCave1972 8 ай бұрын
It’d drive me mad running a store like this having to deal with people who say they know what they’re talking about when in fact they don’t have a clue, don’t listen, are half asleep and have an overinflated idea of value.
@zippymufo9765
@zippymufo9765 10 ай бұрын
There's so many people like this in collecting who don't understand that value is relative. The value can only be what buyers are willing to pay, what you originally paid for it is irrelevant.
@ProfessorWillow
@ProfessorWillow 5 ай бұрын
Probably tells everyone his Kiss stuff is worth over a million dollars
@MegaMan-bs3oy
@MegaMan-bs3oy Жыл бұрын
LOL sounds like mom swindled this guy to get this crap out of her house ha ha ha
@jnorth5689
@jnorth5689 26 күн бұрын
The fact he never stopped talking is the first red flag
@Leggyblond22
@Leggyblond22 Күн бұрын
filling empty space. artifice and subterfuge
@thegodfatheroftoys3349
@thegodfatheroftoys3349 23 күн бұрын
You made a great point in this video that I haven’t seen people comment on. The market buyers for old GI Joe dolls are starting to age out. There are not many people who are out there that have that emotional attachment to them, hence the 3 3/4 figures are more in demand. In about 20 years, there will be less of them, and the market will be for things like power rangers and stuff from the early to mid 90s
@agfagaevart
@agfagaevart 9 ай бұрын
Terrible! That guy with a sob story trying to scam the shopkeeper. :-0
@jareddoesstuff358
@jareddoesstuff358 14 күн бұрын
I don't buy for a second that he paid 4500 dollars for all that crap lol.
@buggy659
@buggy659 6 ай бұрын
Wasn’t that complicated the guy had unrealistic expectations.. oh and he was lying about getting that stuff for 4k. He’s used that number as leverage. 😂😂
@maxwallace2123
@maxwallace2123 7 ай бұрын
"I just sorta put everything together, I'm sure you do the same thing" Na man.. na... read the room these aren't fucking casuals here LOL
@beatlejim64
@beatlejim64 7 ай бұрын
You sell to a collector...NOT a dealer! You'll get the best price...
@bryin7
@bryin7 9 ай бұрын
This guy seemed like he thought his sob story would make him rich, and expected him to complete the pieces of the sets for him...
@ThatGuyX2
@ThatGuyX2 9 ай бұрын
Don't always take your friends word on their collection value. Don't always buy it blind off their family. Wait til guys family tries to sell the Kiss stuff to no one wanting to buy it
@perplexalot1615
@perplexalot1615 9 ай бұрын
The Seller was just obnoxious.
@cliffordmarusich4111
@cliffordmarusich4111 7 ай бұрын
I have been reading the comments and I am taken by how personal many of the comments. Talking about the man's weight, appearance and so on. If he does not know what he is doing, or has his own idea of the value or is trying to scam that is one thing and legit to discuss. Myself, I try to learn a bit about what I am trying to trade to have a better understanding of what I am doing. I personally would never FULLY trust someone who I am trying to sell to, because they are looking the lowest price and if they can scam a seller, well they probably would do that to. It is a 2 way street. But to attack someone for being overweight and not looking well that is wrong. I would wonder what I might think if I saw what some of the commenters looked like. Sorry for venting.
@TheAgentAssassin
@TheAgentAssassin 6 ай бұрын
Good points. Comment section is straight childish cancer. They all read like a 14yr old snot nosed kid wrote it.
@michaelm.1947
@michaelm.1947 6 ай бұрын
"Sorry for venting." No need to apologize for telling the truth.
@darthwizzywizard
@darthwizzywizard 6 ай бұрын
@@michaelm.1947100% 😊❤
@thegodfatheroftoys3349
@thegodfatheroftoys3349 4 сағат бұрын
What’s a scam? How is somebody scammed? I hate when people throw that word around. It’s simple. Somebody offers an item, they offer a price. It the offer is not what you are looking for, walk away. If he can sell it for 100, you will not get 100. He’s not a broker, he’s a dealer.
@sparklybat7172
@sparklybat7172 8 ай бұрын
The problem with a lot of this stuff is most collectors in the hobby now have no idea what it even is, I would suggest that most 12 inch Joe collectors probably already have most of the more common stuff, finding new people getting into 12 inch is most likely impossible at this point.
@Matt_Wilson01
@Matt_Wilson01 7 ай бұрын
This guy gets it
@CAMELFLAM
@CAMELFLAM 8 ай бұрын
Dude thought he got a steal from his friends mom because she had no idea what they were worth, but he got hosed because he didn't have a clue
@wesleywyndam-pryce4081
@wesleywyndam-pryce4081 7 ай бұрын
😂😂
@beatlejim64
@beatlejim64 Жыл бұрын
If you get vintage stuff....(1940's-early 1970's)...sell to a collector...NOT a dealer!
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
Not always true
@exiles_dot_tv
@exiles_dot_tv Жыл бұрын
Usually depends on how fast you want to get rid of it. Finding the right collector can take some time.
@valley_robot
@valley_robot 2 ай бұрын
the star wars stuff was junk , all in pretty bad shape , im in the UK and my vintage star wars stuff is in great condition and its worth nothing
@MH-br3th
@MH-br3th 7 ай бұрын
I don't like it when people add on some story into whatever they want to sell. It's always "somebody died" or "I paid this for them" or "I need money for some sad story thing that happened". Regardless it doesn't matter to the buyer and it's hard to not just say "I don't care" when they keep mentioning it. When you're the one lugging a collection through the front door looking to liquidate it more than likely you're going to take a hit. The exception to the rule might be when you're the original buyer and took care of it all for all that time, got lucky at a storage unit auction, estate sale, ect... Also the buyers might get things for a decent price with room for profit and the items just sit around for years or never end up selling. You can get screwed even when you think you made a deal.
@lelandlankford7940
@lelandlankford7940 Жыл бұрын
It is good to show the reality of things too. Often things don't work out like the seller imagines when he comes in. That is not bad, just being realilistic and fair. Too many of these would be depressing (even if realistic) but showing some comes across as a honest and true.
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
Thanks for appreciating the episode!
@frankieingrid1983
@frankieingrid1983 Жыл бұрын
We need more. Absolutely digging this channel.
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
More every Saturday Morning at 9!
@skullgame
@skullgame Жыл бұрын
As someone who ran a comic store a couple decades ago, this gave me anxiety watching because I've been on both sides of the deal. You feel bad for the guy if he truly paid that much for what he brought in, but it's also frustrating how people think whatever they value something at is what the store should pay for it. Rent is incredibly expensive, employees are expensive, electricity is expensive, insurance on the merchandise, there's so much that goes into running a business that people don't take into account when they come in thinking you should pay full value. Some books we purchased would sit for upwards of a year before they sold, so you are paying to store that inventory in the meantime. 30%-50% of retail really is about as much as anyone should realistically expect to get.
@wayneemerson7342
@wayneemerson7342 8 ай бұрын
I had a lot of those toys in the 80s. GI Joe and Star Wars stuff. I had a large Millennial Falken. Thing is, I played with mine. Blew them up with fire crackers and such. Many are still buried under the shade of an old oak tree at my childhood home where I played. So many good memories.
@NathanIsLame
@NathanIsLame 7 ай бұрын
The way toys were meant to be appreciated! Not kept in a box to “appreciate “.
@robspartantoys
@robspartantoys 9 ай бұрын
I occasionally sell older toys to my local comic shops. They’re super nice guys, but I know walking in they’re not going to give me close to retail value on anything I bring in. It’s a business, and they have profit margins to maintain. You have to sell direct to the buyer yourself if you want the most money.
@MoriaGecko1
@MoriaGecko1 2 ай бұрын
I know a guy who owns a few comic shops in south Florida. I've also frequented his competition. Nobody would have been as generous with this guy. Ryan offered him 2000$ ? All the shops I know would have thrown 800$ offered for all the stuff and wouldn't have gone above 1200$. And that would have been a fair offer. Ryan's 2k$ was a gift. He would have had to catalog it all. Which is time and money. Store it or display it which takes up valuable space. And sit on it which may or may not increase in value. Decrease is more then likely considering the state of Star wars ATM.
@kevlarunderwear22
@kevlarunderwear22 2 ай бұрын
True Star Wars merch is going down… the movies and tv shows have been god awful…
@omegashenron8
@omegashenron8 2 ай бұрын
@@kevlarunderwear22 Star Wars toys ain't worth shit anymore. I'm really glad I unloaded my Black series during the pandemic before the values started to decline.
@garycadogan4258
@garycadogan4258 7 ай бұрын
Hold on, $6m dollar man isn't worth $6m ,,, WTF
@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind
@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind 8 ай бұрын
This is pretty sad... No matter how large your collection, how much it's worth, and how long it's taken to collect it will one day, most likely be bargained off out of tubs, at yard sales, or boxed up and forgotten
@realitycheck908
@realitycheck908 8 ай бұрын
Depends what is it barbie plastic figures will definitely follow this road
@dwightrenfield2241
@dwightrenfield2241 8 ай бұрын
Yep. Don’t fall in love with material goods. They’re really only rented by you while you’re here. I know I have some stuff that’s worth a little bit, but when I go, family members mostly don’t want to hold onto that stuff forever - and they don’t feel about it the way you do. More than half of it will end up in a landfill. 🤷‍♂️
@vegasgone07-dh4lb
@vegasgone07-dh4lb 7 ай бұрын
Carry them with you in your heart, all you need is one to represent many. Grow up your an adult, stop playing with Toys.
@robbieracer3294
@robbieracer3294 10 ай бұрын
This guy(the older dude or the seller)is why i quit going to tot shows...they think anything over ten years old is worth a fortune. Besides, around me you cant even find anything older, its all stuff from 5-6 years ago and way too high and if, if you find anything from the 70s-80s, they think the stuff is some kind of rare, limited gold bars LOL. Toy shows are a joke now.
@metalgamerguy1743
@metalgamerguy1743 11 ай бұрын
People need to realize that the store needs to resell these toys to make profit. Whenever I sell something to a game store, I don't expect to be given market value. If I want market value then I'll sell everything myself. And I give props to the worker who was very patient.
@xxxxWYLDSTALLYNSxxxx
@xxxxWYLDSTALLYNSxxxx 11 ай бұрын
It takes time and work to sell old items only a few people would pay the high price for. When u sell a big lot at one time no one gives full value. Patience and time get full value.
@michaelkerr2194
@michaelkerr2194 10 ай бұрын
If he wanted top dollar he would have to put in the work researching and selling on eBay. Selling to a store for a much lower price gets rid of all that responsibility
@robertmartin2936
@robertmartin2936 8 ай бұрын
I paid market value for something as a collector, buying off of another collector, and all parties were happy. Then after about a week, that guy started emailing me about how he'd underpriced everything and he should have sold it for more, or not sold it at all, or sold it but somehow also hung onto it, it was just ridiculous. Weeks. Some people will be unhappy that they came out getting more than they asked for. Some people will be unhappy that they got an item for free because they didn't cost the seller more time or money as an inconvenience. Everyone wants to be the prettiest pony in the universe, and believe their stuff is the most awesome best stuff ever even if you could walk into a store today and buy it off a shelf at retail for less. At the end of the day the question is, do you enjoy the thing? If a person can't enjoy the things without some element of exploiting someone else or feeling superior, they aren't collecting. They're just hoarding with a vindictive attitude.
@randomrickreviewsrrr4662
@randomrickreviewsrrr4662 Жыл бұрын
Seemed like a good patient transaction to me.
@darthsmoker420
@darthsmoker420 5 ай бұрын
People seem to think loose vintage Star Wars are a gold mine. They don't realize the accessories are worth more than the figure. The figures weren't so easily lost as the weapons
@bobknobbe3561
@bobknobbe3561 11 ай бұрын
as a former antique dealer I cant stand sellers like this. You have to work five times as hard with them and they all paid to much for the stuff. Always someone dead tied to the collection
@robbieracer3294
@robbieracer3294 10 ай бұрын
Same attitude with guys selling Harley Davidsons, buddy...you overpaid for the bike to begin with and there is a Harley for sale on every corner. Unless you have a mint 1930s-1950s...im not paying off your loan for you.
@robertawiese
@robertawiese Жыл бұрын
Pawn stars would have given him $50 store credit…he got a good offer here
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
Ha!
@mictlanone6198
@mictlanone6198 7 ай бұрын
Once someone starts complaining or describing small details bout 1 thing you know they bout to rip you off
@joeylasagna7603
@joeylasagna7603 7 ай бұрын
this is the end of every collection.
@ChampippleD
@ChampippleD 11 ай бұрын
There is a small timeframe where adults want to collect the things that made them happy as kids. Once you are outside of the frame, vintage mass-produced consumer goods lose most of it’s value. Practically nobody gives a crap about vintage-era GI Joe accessories anymore.
@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids
@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids 11 ай бұрын
this is spot on, i have tons of things i saved from when i was a kid. and then ive added a few things over the years. everyone who sees my collection of stuff always says how much is this worth! i always say "nothing its just cool to have". at this point i cant bring myself to downsize against the ebay competition for pennies. i have a few afa figures that will sell easily and make a profit. but the majority of my stuff i told my niece to sell when i die for whatever she can get for herself since itll all be profit for her.
@toyfederation
@toyfederation 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Market fluctuates. Toys are meant to be bought, owned, and played with.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 10 ай бұрын
@@toyfederation Correct. Every time I see a mint boxed toy from the 60s and 70s I think of a kid who never came out of hospital.
@Brauers_BallHogs
@Brauers_BallHogs 16 күн бұрын
At the end of the day, the dude just had to feel like he “won”. I commend you for not exploding with frustration. I don’t have that cool lol.
@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids
@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids 11 ай бұрын
oooof this was hard to watch. im a little over 40 and those big dolls were never appealing to me. the market for those like the buyer said it just aint there at all. you really got to dig to find someone who wants that stuff. plus a bunch of crap accesories that no one will ever really need or look for. that stuff will sit forever. the offer was pretty generous as is. this guy dont understand that the collectors for that era are dying off, not interested, dont want to spend on it and are minimizing.
@joebauers3746
@joebauers3746 11 ай бұрын
100%. THEY ARE DOLLS!!! Not ACTION FIGURES! Not many guys want DOLLS!!! lol
@michaelromero8057
@michaelromero8057 Жыл бұрын
If he paid the mom $4500 then the one that robbed him was the mom. When you try to sell a whole collection to a vendor or toy store, you're never going to get what you paid for or what you think they're worth. A business needs to make money off the sell. No one can actually believe that TF was going to give him more than $2k for all of this. TF has bills to pay and god only knows how long it would take to sort out all those toys, plus how long it's going to take to sell them all off. If that guy wanted more, he should have sold it on eBay or forums.
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
Nice to be understood
@anthonyvaccaro3408
@anthonyvaccaro3408 Жыл бұрын
There’s no way in hell he shelled out $4500 for all that crap, maybe $500 at the most. People his age get access to deals like that all the time, his peers all have this old crap. He sold those hot wheels for $100, it was like 60 cars an expert would have valued those closer to $300-$600. Guy cleary was just working off an estimate of $4500 and hoped to get more than that or most of it by saying he paid it. There really wasn’t anything in there to justify paying over $2000, I doubt he’s going to give a 90 year old lady $4500 for a couple country yard sale bins, if he did that tgat just makes him the biggest sucker ever.
@humble1ne
@humble1ne 7 ай бұрын
Been doing this a long time and I've learned a thing or two about collectibles over the years. 1. Something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it 2. The popularity and value of vintage toys continuously FLUCTUATES 3. Before you venture into a vintage toystore to sell your items, DO YOUR RESEARCH and know as much as possible about what you want to sell 4. Any store will ALWAYS offer you less so they can sell for a profit and therefore stay in business That said, this gentleman most doubtedly paid $4500 for those items. If he did, he grossly overpaid. He should've bitten the bullet, done his homework and taken the time to check each item for completion, damage, etc. and then posted them for sale on their corresponding FB toy groups, online classified sites, at toy shows or lastly ebay. Great video by the way!
@jonathanward8967
@jonathanward8967 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately sellers like that gentleman are getting more and more common. Holding onto the "value" they once were. Definitely handled that with professionalism!
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Sometimes it's hard for people to understand how our business works.
@matthewkeller3154
@matthewkeller3154 10 ай бұрын
Love this content! This should be a television show. I can watch this all day long! Great stuff
@toyfederation
@toyfederation 10 ай бұрын
Stay tuned.
@agenttexx
@agenttexx Жыл бұрын
If he paid $4500 to help out his friend's mom, then he's also putting a price on his act of charity. I know that's an expense on him, but expecting the get reimbursed for that doesn't set well with me. In the end, I don't really care, but you need to ask yourself if you're really being charitable if you expect to profit from it later on.
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
Fair statement
@prophez23
@prophez23 Жыл бұрын
Great point. I agree.
@leonptr
@leonptr Жыл бұрын
Its all worth as much as someone is prepared to pay for it. Not necessarily what you WANT to get for it.
@zealot777
@zealot777 Жыл бұрын
Word! That's the cardinal rule everybody seems to ignore.
@RadicalToys
@RadicalToys Жыл бұрын
Smartest comment in here
@RetroNaipe
@RetroNaipe 10 ай бұрын
Seller wants the retail price... funny.
@zibberebbiz
@zibberebbiz 9 ай бұрын
I kind of understand how people see prices online and get this fantasy about how much money they're gonna make, but that's MAYBE what you can get if you sell everything separately by yourself, which, hey surprise, that's what these shop owners have to do to make a livelihood
@RetroNaipe
@RetroNaipe 9 ай бұрын
@@zibberebbiz Time is money! Selling stuff takes alot of time. I prefer trade with other collectors than sell because selling is a pain.
@Imac7065
@Imac7065 5 ай бұрын
I used to run a sports card shop.. this was painful to watch because it reminds me how many times I had to crush people's dreams when they thought they had a retirement IRA in their closet, and I had to be the one telling them it was next to worthless today. Heart goes out to both the guy who over paid and the guys have to try to gentle let him down.
@thepaulhenderson
@thepaulhenderson 4 ай бұрын
As a former dealer you also know this guy was full of shit, and his repeated attempts to convince he paid $4500 for that stuff was a ridiculously obvious (and lame) ploy to attempt to convince the shop owner to "at least give him his money back."
@Imac7065
@Imac7065 4 ай бұрын
meh I think he was telling the truth because he took more than half of it back with him@@thepaulhenderson
@babyneon
@babyneon 11 ай бұрын
You could tell immediately by that guys demeanor that there was no way to make a deal with him unless tou gave him his top dolla price
@dochaliday69
@dochaliday69 11 ай бұрын
a lot more patient than I would have been, after 10 minutes (who knows how much time in actual unedited time) I would have said "Sorry buddy, we're not going to make a deal, good bye"
@toyfederation
@toyfederation 11 ай бұрын
Nah, we can always come to a deal!
@jackadogoff8677
@jackadogoff8677 7 ай бұрын
The 12 inch Joe collectors are almost always boomers who think stuff is valuable because they had it as a kid. He's also the same kind of guy to set up at a flea market at as $25 for a copy of super Mario duck hunt.
@basicfacekick
@basicfacekick 5 ай бұрын
One thing about collecting you have to learn before you get to this guy's age... oftentimes, you're lucky if you manage to break even. "Vintage" doesn't exactly mean "gold mine" unless it's sealed, complete, not yellowed AND it's something people want.
@thegodfatheroftoys3349
@thegodfatheroftoys3349 4 сағат бұрын
I don’t think people stop to think about what you just posted. The last vintage Star Wars figs came out 40 years ago almost. Yet with eBay, you can find a loose figure anytime. Carded and boxed examples are still out there for a price. That means there was a ton of that stuff made. I feel bad for people who started keeping stuff form the mid 90s and beyond, when people stopped opening toys and bought them to hoard.
@ninjasec
@ninjasec Жыл бұрын
I have been collecting various things over the years, and it always amazes me when someone sells to a store and expects eBay prices from the store. That top value is rare and bidding wars can increase the price. However its nice he gave his friends mom good money, again so much work goes into a store like all operation costs, and the time it takes to sell it. I know it's hard to accept, just like my comics are not worth what i want. The option is to sell it on your own if you want top value. Important video for perspectives on collecting. Glad i subscribe, thanks pixel dan
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
A great statement! Couldn't agree more! And yes, Thank you to Pixel Dan for getting you here!
@gabe9346
@gabe9346 Жыл бұрын
He slowly was realizing that he paid too much. That was a little awk, but he didn’t too angry at the shop for their valuation. And it ended in a handshake so, well done all around.
@jasonl8326
@jasonl8326 2 ай бұрын
Fold out tables are cheap and convenient. Double knee replacement is not.
@GIBALLS
@GIBALLS 2 ай бұрын
My knees always hurt watching these videos
@awrogers3013
@awrogers3013 6 ай бұрын
Both these guys look like they’re waiting for someone to tap them on their shoulder and say the gig is up
@M3LTUP
@M3LTUP 6 ай бұрын
The only way to get "Top Dollar" is to sell it all yourself. But then you will find that some items move fast while other stuff sits forever. Of course , you have to take less $$ if you want someone else to move it all for you.
@fkaroundhandleit
@fkaroundhandleit 7 ай бұрын
Damn I never thought about people aging out of this stuff.
@methshin1
@methshin1 5 ай бұрын
I love how people trying to sell stuff use the price they paid for it as if that has any bearing on the current negotiation. You getting hosed in a previous transaction does not get passed on to me.
@frankbarron1907
@frankbarron1907 Жыл бұрын
I had no clue that Bill Parcells was into action figure collectibles.
@echohunter4199
@echohunter4199 Ай бұрын
As a man who works at a large collectible toys shop in Texas that sees walk in sales daily, no way in hell would we buy anything from that man, he drove a long way to get outside the area where he lives to a shop that didn’t know his face. Could’ve been that he came that far to get the items out of city limits in event he had problems from the family for stolen property (if that’s what happened). I know Ernie would’ve politely told him to go pound sand. Little things like wrapping plastic around figures to discourage the buyer from taking a closer look for small cracks those figures are known for is one red flag. When someone says the item is in a factory sealed box and the sealing tape is still in place, most people don’t realize that people just use a hot hair dryer or heat gun to warm it up to loosen the tape adhesive to get inside then re-seal the box, so never assume it’s never been opened unless you like buying bricks labeled as an X-wing fighter.
@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784
@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 Ай бұрын
The shop owner (Apologies i forget his name) seems like he knows his stuff so i am sure he was careful, you dont know what he checked off camera. I do agree with you though to not trust a stranger at face value and inspect all the items for damage and tampering.
@shannonwilliams1941
@shannonwilliams1941 Ай бұрын
He OVERPAID just as most KISS collectors do!!! 😂😂😂
@dwightrenfield2241
@dwightrenfield2241 16 күн бұрын
No lie. Kiss collectors are passionate, but they often don’t realize that THEIR love for the band doesn’t automatically means big dollars at resale. They’re often pretty delusional.
@tmac2983
@tmac2983 Жыл бұрын
This was brutal to watch. The old man just didn’t listen. Love the videos but that guy was rough to get through.
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
It’s tough to let go sometimes
@tmac2983
@tmac2983 Жыл бұрын
@@toyfederation that’s very true.
@PepperEnt.
@PepperEnt. Жыл бұрын
Just 1 star wars box he said he could sell for 600 He was gonna give him 500 for all star wars boxes figures and accessories. Wym he was hard to get through. Make 100$ on the box and just give him all the figures and accessories for free lol¿
@anthonyvaccaro3408
@anthonyvaccaro3408 Жыл бұрын
That old man didn’t listen because he was trying to pull a fast one the entire time. “All those million dollar man cases, I mean Star Wars” “what but you said $600, oh valued at $600 well I’m leaving you lots of room with the other stuff you’re not buying how about $600. Practically tongue tied the buyer, he needed snacks afterwords.Guy was the classic baby boomer shister. He didn’t listen because he wanted the buyer to forget what he said or cave in simple as that.
@Dizz1978
@Dizz1978 11 ай бұрын
When you ask a buyer to look at your stuff and give you an offer, and you don’t like the offer, just say “thanks for looking, but ill pass”. I cant stand when seller’s argue with buyers like this guy did. Just walk away, and bring it to someone else. If its REALLY worth what you say it is, you shouldn’t have an issue finding SOMEONE to get close to your asking price.
@toyfederation
@toyfederation 11 ай бұрын
People always forget that they can say no. Or it’s just sales tactics. It’s fine.
@GodWeenSatan
@GodWeenSatan 6 ай бұрын
The old guy can't even accept a loss. Like the owner said the younger generation is not going to want these older toys that are unheard of
@soccerplyr8
@soccerplyr8 9 ай бұрын
He got suckered into paying 4500 and was looking for a bail out like it was somehow your fault. You did good deed hopefully there was a piece in there someone wanted and needed for a good price.
@dgray3771
@dgray3771 9 ай бұрын
Spot on. He bought the lot without knowing if there was anything worth while. A huge collection means nothing especially if it has already been stripped of its valuable items.
@studbourbon798
@studbourbon798 10 ай бұрын
So to help ur dead friend's mom out and u offer her half what u think his stuff is worth and then find out it ain't worth half that ? That's called karma .
@richardwarner8648
@richardwarner8648 23 күн бұрын
You sir are very patient.
@ericlewis217
@ericlewis217 9 ай бұрын
Everyone thinks they have a goldmine, thats the trouble, I totally get it these dudes are dealing with it everyday- its just product to them and its emotional to the seller. Everyone thinks because they have a vintage yoda figure they can put kids through college with it.
@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944
@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944 6 ай бұрын
Guy can barely breathe.
@ResidentRaccoon
@ResidentRaccoon Жыл бұрын
Assuming I believe this dude on what he spent for this lot... bro, what are you doing spending $4,500 on stuff you know very little about?
@toyfederation
@toyfederation Жыл бұрын
Very true
@CM-wv8ns
@CM-wv8ns Жыл бұрын
If the story is true... gave a $4500 cash donation to a widow. End of good deed, move on--can't expect an additional reward for also decluttering items (not gonna say junk).
@kingforaday8725
@kingforaday8725 Ай бұрын
The thing about collectibles is they are only worth what someone is willing to pay you. Even if the experts agree something is worth $100 you still have to find the person to pay you $100! A business is not going to pay you $100 for something they can only sell for $100!
@SpaceHawk13
@SpaceHawk13 Ай бұрын
'The thing about collectibles is they are only worth what someone is willing to pay you.' You can literally say that about anything.
@dwightrenfield2241
@dwightrenfield2241 16 күн бұрын
Because it’s true. Like, literally. The perspective of a business owner with overhead is a far different thing than a guy cruising thrift stores and flipping some items on eBay.
@Diomedes_XXII
@Diomedes_XXII 8 ай бұрын
The way this guy breaks up words & phrases to take whole azz breaths is sending me, man...
@SuperChatsRNotTips
@SuperChatsRNotTips 7 ай бұрын
Yea man take care of yourself when your 30 on or you could easily end up like this obese pos
@madsaltyskills
@madsaltyskills 9 күн бұрын
This guy was having difficulty breathing lol he doesnt have much time either lol
@phillyjoejones5161
@phillyjoejones5161 3 күн бұрын
Damn🤣
@smallfaucet
@smallfaucet 18 сағат бұрын
Yes, one day you too will be an older human, hope you live a better life since you're so knowledgeable.
@barryallen825
@barryallen825 10 ай бұрын
oh hey that's that dude that got mad i wouldn't wholesale price 10 shirts to him in Charlotte, so he came back with threatening Vinnie was going to sue me hhahaha. Enjoying these Ryan & co. Hope all is well !
@shawn9566
@shawn9566 2 ай бұрын
No one cares "what you got in it" Harsh truth, but they're honest and trying to run a business.
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