Toyota BZ4X 2023 AWD : Why I sold it and moved on

A quick video on why I sold my Toyota BZ4X 2023 AWD after owning it for 3 months.
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[@stevenhickcox7288]

I am only into a week of leasing the BZ4X, so I've only used a DC faster charger twice. The first time, it took about 90 minutes to go from 50% to 90% and I had the auxiliary power on where the dashboard was showing something like 5 hrs to fully charge. However, after looking into more information about onboard chargers and how they are designed to prevent damaging the lithium batteries, two very important considerations: 1. The charging will significantly slow down once the battery level reaches 80%. 2. Don't turn on the auxiliary power while charging unless absolutely necessary. The auxiliary power comes from a 12 volt battery in many EV'S because all interior electric needs run off a different voltage. After learning this, I returned to the same DC fast charger which had a Chevy Bolt charging on the left side. Both cars started charging at about the same battery level and I stopped charging at 80%. It only took 48 minutes.

[@ataturk7592]

Thanks bro. I am about to buy a 2023 model bz4x

[@zakir.89]

Toyota has always tried to make its cars as reliable as possible. for this reason, there is an explanation for this case. the manufacturer tried to maximize the battery life. yes, charging is not exactly fast, but the car can be charged at night, and this is suitable for most owners. after all, the battery is the most expensive part of the car.

[@ericwright1075]

You should have stuck with the RAV4 Prime. I am still going to watch your site because you seem like a good guy. Good luck with your new car.

[@EVDude]

Thank you Eric. I'm still convinced about my EV move, but I clearly chose the wrong car for my first EV move. I've fast charged the Ioniq 5 twice now without any planning (battery preconditioning) and I've hit the maximum capacity of those chargers. Very pleased with it and I'm disappointed Toyota is aiming for longevity and not charging performance.

[@InternetDude]

I went from Prius 08 to Plugin Prius 12 to Tesla S 15 to Tesla S 18 and back to RAV4 Prime '21. Owning a BEV in Canada has a lot of limitations, mainly in winter. I feel for ya, I got extremely frustrated with my Teslas because the quality was bad and needed frequent repairs.

[@BioniqBob]

6 years now with no problems, EV future

[@spovetkin]

The best EV car on the market. After recent update the car goes 20% more. I have 2 cars BZ4X and very happy with them. After 10 years let's talk about batteries in your ionic 5 or 6 or 7. Toyota cares about long life battery, not fast charging.

[@nartin86]

I am looking to buy a bz4x. Do you think the back seat would fit a rear facing baby seat and two 5-ft 110-lb women (mom and grandma).

[@eazieway3489]

But slow charging is so painful. Ioniq 5 literally charges almost 3 times faster than BZ4X. 170kw vs. 60kw.

[@mikehc6159]

most people charge at home at L2 or L1 - it's better to have the option to fast charge when needed than to not have it at all

[@happydividends123]

I thought the same 👍

[@ataturk7592]

​@@nartin86yes definitely

[@stefandroasca]

I own an Bz4x here in Romania ( awd 150kw Panasonic batteries) i have no issue with fast charging ( those 2 fast charges allowed by the software), I think that maybe it's a problem with the Catl batteries, but as long as it's a software limitation Toyota can improve it and I hope that in May they will do this through the promised update. I got 142kw (4 degrees outside temp) at a 150kw fast charger station.

[@thekat-dg9fx]

I am in the US, and have the AWD Bz4X as well. I don't think I've seen over 60 kW on DC fast charging, ever, and I know some of our DC fast charging sessions were at 50F (10C). Unfortunately my nearest DC fast chargers that go over 50kW are 40-45 minutes' drive away, so I normally rely on home charging, but between the slow charging and the throttle when charging more than 2 0-80% cycles' worth (at which point, it throttles to 13 kW or slower!)... I wonder if the North American AWD version got these batteries because DC infrastructure is so much worse, and maybe we would chalk it up to the cold.

[@stefandroasca]

@@thekat-dg9fx I usually charge at home with type 2, I charge with DC only on holidays, yesterday I charged at a 150kw station with 48kwh, but the battery was at 52%, probably if I reached 20% I would charge with over 100kwh, the outside temperature was 5 degrees

[@MrDingaling007]

How can you know if you have the Panasonic batteries for the AWD? Pretty sure they only have the CATL batteries for the AWD they are all coming from the same Japanese factory from what i understand.

[@stefandroasca]

@@MrDingaling007 it's simple, I charged with 145 kwh, CATL batteries can max 100 kwh, all AWD that comes to Europe comes to Panasonic.

[@MrDingaling007]

@@stefandroasca well i hope that's the case I would prefer the awd with proven Panasonic cells. Remote possibility Toyota could have updated the software for catl cells to charge at 150kw.

[@nicholaslo9205]

I also own and Bz4x for 4 months. I totally understand your pain when u talk to Toyota Canada. My car have couples of problem like roaring noise after 80km/hrs and the regen brake have defect……etc. Try to fix it but Toyota Canada just close their eye and said everything is ok! So i am now looking for another EV and will sell my Bz4x also.

[@EVDude]

It's crazy, they're not transparently at all and they think you're the crazy one.

[@jean-francoisracineacupunc3484]

I probably moved on from this model because of this issue and you helped me on this decision. Thanks

[@EVDude]

I'm glad I was able to help. Toyota's answer was the final blow for me.

[@jordanvarlack385]

This is exactly why we did not buy the BZ4X, even when we have an abundance of dealers here in the southeast US that sell at MSRP. We bought another EV instead.

[@EVDude]

You made the right choice my friend. I'm not surprised if they're sitting in dealers lots.

[@jordanvarlack385]

@@EVDude There’s two in my dealers lot at the moment and we went to go look at them yesterday. I’m sorry you had this bad experience with Toyota. I hope things work out for you and I can’t wait to see the new videos you make about your new car! Personally, we bought a Tesla Model 3 because I honestly don’t want to even think about potential issues during road trips lol. The Tesla infrastructure is top notch so far, but I do hope that in the next 5 or so years that North America will get its act together. I love my car, but I hope that my next car is NOT a Tesla.

[@davidp.4727]

I am going to hang on to mine for a year or two then decide if full EV life is for me. Hyundai has nailed optimizing fast charging . I don’t blame you for trading it in. Toyota could have offered a superior product and chose to put out a vehicle that is terrible for cold climates .

[@avdp9095]

It is because Toyota gives 10 years warranty on the batteries....

[@peterfessier9780]

I was surprised when I saw you bought the BZ4X but I figured you wanted to stick with Toyota for the channel or out of loyalty. I figure this will be what happens with the BZ4X, people buying it because they love Toyotas but finding out its not a very good EV. I think this will hurt Toyota’s transition to electric. I own a 2021 Rav4 Prime SE, which is why I started watching this channel. It’s a great car and I have no practical reason to switch to a BEV, but the Ioniq 5 is definitely my favorite. I’ve been watching the local dealerships here in Oregon and they are still charging $5,000 to $7,000 over MSRP the the top AWD trim which is called a Limited here. I think Hyundai hit it out of the park with the Ioniq 5 so I think you made a great choice. I can get a top trim EV 6 for a few grand under MSRP, but although I like it, I’d always be looking over at the Ioniq 5. And everything is so expensive. I got $10,000 in tax credits on my Prime so it was a lot cheaper. I guess I’ll just live vicariously through you for now. Félicitations pour votre nouvelle voiture.

[@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf]

For your loyalty? He has 2000 subscribers lol

[@quaidmciver172]

My dad is having the same issues with his FWD BZ4X, I literally begged him not to buy this thing for $850 a month with $8k USD due at signing. But he did what we wanted and is now complaining. 😣

[@thekat-dg9fx]

Thank you so much for your update, and all your documentation you shared. I feel for everyone who is finding out the hard way that this car is clearly not the right car for them. 😢

[@EVDude]

Thank you for taking the time to write. I'm glad I made the decision with only 5k km on it and being able to sell at a profit. I'm sure I would have lost money if I kept it any longer.

[@tonyha9979]

Honestly I hope someone file a lawsuit against them. I would join

[@samatwesu]

Nice choice. Charging BZ4X AWD 2024 at top speed is still an enigma. Once at 63 ambient air temp I got 92 kw. Another day similar temps speed was much lower. Different location but still EvGo 350 kw.

[@tenske]

that really sucks to hear.. i love my rav4 prime but they really dropped the ball on the bz4x. I really expected more from Toyota.

[@InternetDude]

Same. We still have the RAV4 Prime and I'm looking at the Ioniq 6 as the other vehicle to replace my Lexus hybrid. I am not considering the Bz4x.

[@EVDude]

Totally agree. Toyota is playing it safe but at the cost of losing it's customers.

[@marcelrochon]

Hello Bajee, I am so happy for you to have found a way to meet your needs. I too got fooled by Toyota on this one (my 5th Toyota) I only wish I had the confidence auto trade like you did but fear that it would cost me the 12000$ incentive 😢 but my needs are also different as I go to Toronto twice a year and do not have children to care for (retired) Bonne chance dans tes aventures !!! ❤ garder nous a jour sur la qualité du Ionic5

[@speksih]

Congratulations on the Ioniq5! I have an RWD EV6 GT-Line for 2 winters now here in Finland and it plows through the snow like nothing! You'll enjoy the E-GMP platform for sure! Ps. I peaked my charging during winter at -10degC at 200kW after the preheating update!

[@EVDude]

Thank you! I'm getting my preconditionning update tomorrow, cannot wait to see those numbers :D

[@TCobb47]

I had a 21 Rav4 prime. Sold it for a 22 ioniq5 limited. Both great vehicles imho. I should have kept the RAV4 prime as I travel alot. Anyway, I sold the Ioniq5 and ended up getting a Subaru Outback.

[@InternetDude]

Why did you sell the I5? I am looking at the I6 as soon as I can get one. Also have a RAV4 Prime in the garage which we would keep as the "second" car.

[@TCobb47]

@@InternetDude I sold it because I road trip a lot and charging adds too much down time even with 20 min fast charging time. If I could afford it, I would have kept my Rav4 prime for road trips and my ioniq5 as a daily. The only complaint I had with the Ioniq5 was peeling rear window trim but the dealer repaired it.

[@toddlerandtwinsinatesla]

Good choice! You'll want to cherry pick the 250+kW chargers if you can, because that thing charges like a beast

[@EVDude]

I've tried on a 100kW so far and I'm impressed. I will be testing it on a 350kW charger not far from home. And you're right, I've seen crazy numbers for charging on different forums.

[@XMG3]

I don’t care about DC charging, my BZ4X deposit was placed today :)

[@EVDude]

If the speeds of DCFC is not a requirement for you, then you'll definitely love the car. Thanks for watching.

[@bogdansofei1299]

You say the guys from Toyota dealer wanted to help....but Toyota didn't tell them a thing..... Do you really believe the guys from the dealership are some kind of saints?!?..... Wow!!!!

[@InternetDude]

LOVE the Ioniq 5, I'm very much looking forward to your videos on it. I am very interested in the Ioniq 6, I contacted my dealer here in Sask to try and find out how soon I can get one. I am a Toyota and Lexus fan but if they have limitations, take your money somewhere else, that's what you need to do.

[@rollingr1535]

I completely agree. The DC charging speed is dreadfully slow.

[@ghyberghyber]

Hello EV dude. I applaud your decision. I also have a bZ4X and live very close to Montreal. My bZ4X is an LE FWD and I am also selling it in the next few weeks. I have yet to DC recharge having had no reason to road trip since Dec 2022 when I purchased the BZ. However, the energy consumption on the LE FWD has radically improved since the temperatures have started to rise. The absence of route planning is my BIGGEST beef. Take care. I ordered a Volvo XC40 Recharge and should be getting it within the next few weeks. BTW, the energy consumption is typically around 20kWh/100km nowadays at 105km/h (ground speed).

[@sharonstaggers-moss8176]

As long as it works for you, congratulations. I left toyota because I wanted an electric car that had more.

[@EVDude]

You did good, I totally understand now.

[@KaceyGreen]

about 10:45 I left Toyota for Chevy Volt and then Tesla shame they weren't being serious for you and being cagey rather than up-front with you

[@EVDude]

Very unfortunate indeed. I expected an honest answer from Toyota, but I got zero transparency.

[@rambotulip]

im keeping my limited bz and i love it ,,,not into other clown looking evs

[@EVDude]

I agree. The looks are great but not the charging performance.

[@avdp9095]

Don't you get software updates???? We have had, in the Netherlands, 2 software updates with significant effect, far more range, increased charging speed. Range is now, summer, 450km. Charging 10% to 80% in less than 30 minutes..... . Far more efficient EV motor as well...... .

[@EVDude]

We're getting updates here but nothing related to charging speeds per say. Especially in cold weather (-10C or more). We also have the CATL battery and not the Panasonic battery for AWD models, which limits the charging speeds.

[@avdp9095]

@@EVDude strange. Charging is now almost always above 100kw when it is almost 80% full... . It was tested by Autoweek and Autovisie, two leading carmagazines in the Netherlands. The range was improved also significantly, almost doubled to 450km, 10gr outside. Toyota has also increased fast charging up ro 4 times in 24 hours, not more. They mainrain the warranty of 10 years. In Europe we havecthe Chinese build Bz4x not tge Japanese build Bz4x. With this software updates the car sells better in EU, in Norway even fourth position.

[@Bidyoworks]

I trash the BZ4x and get a 23 Kia NIRO EV way better

[@Thulebeez]

Dube its not your fault Toyota clearly was making a compliance EV, since you are in Canada and you Toyota fan rather stick to Hybrids or if want a proper ev get a Telsa.

[@InternetDude]

I've owned two Teslas, the RAV4 Prime, a plugin Prius, and others. I would definitely not recommend Tesla to anyone, I had way, way too many quality issues. Plus they keep taking away critical parts on cars like front radar, parking sensors, etc. They have the best charging network but definitely not the best quality cars. Go buy Korean or German instead.

[@InternetDude]

I've owned a ton of different vehicles and done videos for years. There's a reason my name has been Internet Dude for many years, I don't pigeon hole myself into any particular brand or model. Good move switching to EVDude, you can keep it that way from here on no matter what you drive.

[@mattdabratt23]

Hey Bajee, if you never or rarely had to do fast charging would you have switched? I will use home charging 99% of the time. Just wondering.

[@EVDude]

If it wasn't for the fast charging, I would have kept this car, I was in love with it.

[@actarusqc]

The same as you , I charge only at home and the car is really good, it is just a bad road trip car . the FWD like mine is not so bad but the AWD is very poor for long trip

[@thomasmcmillan5095]

I love the bZ4x. I travel less than 100 miles a day.@@EVDude

[@tweebs1]

Thank you for sharing the Toyota technical documents. I see the notice regarding the infotainment system which has been causing me pain since I got it. Toyota techs couldn't figure out how to apply the update and didn't want to listen to my advice (electronic engineer) so I'm SOL (shit outta luck... not Solterra). I've got a copy of the Techstream software but it's pretty limited in what it can do. I had a link at one point which would allow the download of updates for the US VINs but see no Canadian equivalent. It looks like some folks in other parts of the world are receiving vehicles with a new software version which has the battery state of charge % and presumably other DC fast charge fixes. I'll see if that will be offered to Canadians but if not I'll see if there is grounds for a class action lawsuit or dump this thing at a loss when I can get a new vehicle. Bought my Canadian BzzzzLE in February and have yet to get much more than 300km range, and haven't seen more than 100 kWh DC fast charger for more than a few mins at 350kW chargers. I've owned many Toyotas but I won't likely be purchasing another one ever again :( There are so many annoying things about this car, I'd love to ditch it for the IONIC 5, though I'll have to wait some time for that.

[@ataturk7592]

AWD version with CATL batteries was the wrong decision to begin with. You should have bought FWD with Panasonic batteries. Sorry to hear you left the toyota Family😢

[@Wonky4925]

I've had mine nearly 6 weeks. I'm starting to get the hump with it. The guessometer is a joke. I get out the the with 128 miles left in the tank. I get back in the car 6 hours later, and there are now 104 miles left. The car has been turned off with it locked. I hate the lack of wireless android auto...I was lied to by the dealer , he was adamant he used WAA daily in the car and I cannot live with the phone compartment being open just to have the lead plugged in. The phone compartment is far too small for my fold 3. The infotainment is a joke, constantly asking to sign in for a profile. It's crashed a few times, the voice 'hey toyota' commands just don't work and the button voice command the same. My main gripe is the guessometer, how can you plan any length of journey with a range so so inaccurate?

[@EVDude]

Sorry to hear this. I did have wireless android auto on my BZ4X (I have a Fold 4), it's weird that you dont. Make sure to have your Bluetooth and Wi-Fi on or else it won't work.

[@Wonky4925]

Yea, done all that. Dealers say its not supported in UK. The must haves for the car was panoramic roof, digital key and wireless android auto. The dealer has agreed to move the data port to under the center console so at lease I can close the phone box cover

[@jean-phil]

@EVDude : would be nice to make a video comparing what you prefer on the ioniq 5 vs the prime vs the bz4x, tx ;)

[@EVDude]

And now the Model Y 😅 I recently sold my IONIQ 5 to jump ship to Tesla.

[@jean-phil]

@@EVDude hehe nice! I was cross shopping the MY and Prime, finally received my prime xse tech this week after 2 years, metallic grey. Yesterday, i drived passed by a brand new metallic silver MY, I think it looks great in that color/paint. I read some opinions on reddit of people owning both the Prime and MY, and opinions were diverse so it would be nice to hear yours ;)

[@EVDude]

@jean-phil I'll definitely make that video. I got the model Y RWD Metallic silver, which is more on the Grey side if you ask me. Congrats on the Prime, it's an amazing SUV.

[@dpaquin58]

Je crois sincèrement que ton meilleur choix était le premier. Toyota rav4prime pour ce que ta de besoin. C'est mon opinion

[@EVDude]

Effectivement, le Rav4 Prime était (et toujours est) un des meilleurs véhicule sur le marché. Je voulais absolument faire le saut pour un véhicule électrique mais disons que mon choix n'a pas été le bon. La IONIQ 5 que j'ai présentement rempli mes besoins et la charge rapide est tout simplement fantastique, les deux fois que j'ai dû me charger sur les bornes, j'ai atteint le maximum.

[@Ducatista10]

Good luck dude! Thanks for sharing your info and the documents. I have a Solterra and I am loving it but I also will rarely use fast charging so for my use case it’s great. Hoping some updates come to improve it though

[@EVDude]

Thank you ! I really hope they realize what they've done and improve, the car is amazing in all other aspects.

[@venomandpotatoplays5256]

We have 2023 toyota bz4x and we love our bz4x

[@nartin86]

I am looking to buy a bz4x. Do you think the back seat would fit a rear facing baby seat and two 5-ft 110-lb women (mom and grandma).

[@venomandpotatoplays5256]

​@nartin86 yes there's enough space in the back.

[@dexterk1902]

I love the new style for Ioniq 5

[@kiyan1226]

how is the ionic 5 range vs bz4x? I can’t get more than 120 miles from 90-15 charge on my BZ4x

[@EVDude]

I have not gone on long trip but the Guess o meter diplays around 480-500km when 100% charged with warmer weather here.

[@Spirited282]

I honestly do not think the BZ4X should have been made, sorry about your situation. Do you regret selling your Prime? Very understandable about your situation. Hopefully the EV Hyundais are more reliable then their gas vehicles.. i wish you the best

[@EVDude]

I'm actually very happy already with the IONIQ 5. Charging speeds are so much better and driving it is great. I dont regret selling the Prime but I regret buying the bz4x.

[@Spirited282]

@@EVDude All the best to you, hope it lasts a while for you and your family

[@Youtubeuseritis]

FWD with Panasonic battery - will you recommend that? Since it had 150kw limit. Or u think that is in theory only?

[@EVDude]

I think I would. From what I've seen with the Panasonic batteries, I'm satisfied with the charging curve. Much better than CATL batteries.

[@zruler88]

hi brother, i m facing the same issue with my Subaru Solterra, can u please advice me how did u do the pre-condition. m getting 49kw - 0% till 50%, 32kw - 51% till 80% & 12kw - 81% till 100%. Regards, Zain.

[@EVDude]

There's no preconditioning on the Solterra. The only way to increase battery temperature is to accelerate rapidly and brake hard on several km. It's called doing yo-yo. Not so good for the car. Besides this, there's no other way because Toyota/Subaru did not include a preconditioning system in this car.

[@paulbarrette2557]

Hey there, Yeah! I got rid of my Prime also because of the cable prob and also decided to go full EV. The batteries and charging is THE MOST important aspect in a EV IMO so I decided to go Tesla model 3 with the LFP battery. My opinion is that Tesla probably has the best EV motor, battery and charger on the market. I did invest in a PPF for the paint and an extended warranty to cover for any repairs.

[@EVDude]

I agree with you. If it wasn't for the price, I would have considered the Model Y for my needs (putting aside their quality control issues).

[@jywn]

if you're going to do a lot of road trips, I think the Ioniq 5 would be more suited for you

[@EVDude]

Yeah I loved it. I ended up selling it too and jumped ship to a Model Y now. #NoRegrets

[@doodlebug1820]

tldr 7:00 cold weather range is too short.

[@nartin86]

I am looking to buy a bz4x. Do you think the back seat would fit a rear facing baby seat and two 5-ft 110-lb women (mom and grandma).

[@EVDude]

So I had that exact scenario with my baby seat, my wife and my mother in law sitting in the back. It does fit but the middle person won't be sitting comfortably for a long period of time and it will depend on how wide your baby seat is. I have the Graco 4Ever all in one seat.

[@nartin86]

@@EVDude Have you tried putting the rear facing seat in the middle? I have Graco Triride 3-in-1. Not sure how large it is compared to others, but it doesn't look big.

[@EVDude]

@nartin86 No I haven't. Since I park my car in the garage, only one side is accessible and I put the baby seat on the driver side.

[@johnlodge8546]

Terrible DC Fast Charging, on board AC charger is only 7KW (all competitors 11KW) Can't display its actual SOC as a number Terrible highway efficiency of maybe 160 miles of range at 70 MPH. To much reserved capacity Software limited to x Kwh's of charging per 24 hour period.

[@fonmar26]

Hi Bajee, enfin un Québécois de chez nous qui donne les vrai résultats pour le Québec.Pour ma part j’ai réservé une BZ4X au début 2021 et par chance j’ai décidé de réservé une RAV4 Prime en même temps. Durant l’attente j’ai continué à faire des recherches sur toutes les VE pour constater que les Kia, Hyundai étaient en avances sur Toyota. Je me suis enlevé sur la liste du BZ4X et j’ai reçu le mois dernier ma RAV4 Prime. Je vous confirme que je suis très satisfait de mon choix. Je crois que toi comme moi espérais que la mauvaises publicités allait être résolu pendant le retrait du BZ4X pour le problème de roues ou par les mise à jour. Félicitations pour ta nouvelle voiture.

[@EVDude]

Merci beaucoup! Félicitations pour votre RAV4 Prime. C'est un des meilleurs véhicules que j'ai eu, le meilleur des deux mondes. De mon côté, très satisfait de ma transition vers la IONIQ 5, sans aucun effort, les vitesses de recharge sont au maximum des bornes. J'attends toujours le VUS électrique idéal pour mes besoins (potentiellement la EV9).

[@EVDude]

@@fonmar26 Je trouve que c'est un très bon plan. C'est certain que je vais documenter mes péripéties avec la IONIQ 5 (bonnes et mauvaises).

[@tonyha9979]

I want to sell mine too. It sucks

[@rajho6638]

Wonder if the Nissan Ariya is going to be any good.

[@InternetDude]

Eh, I think it will be a tough sell given the price and the current market...

[@peterfessier9780]

@@InternetDude I agree, at least here in the US. I like the looks and the specs (except the charging), but it seems too expensive for what it is. I figure everything, even the BZ4X will sell in small numbers but if Nissan really wants to sell a lot of them, I don't see it happening.

[@EVDude]

I just saw this popup today for the Ariya : kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2qkc6pod8mWl7c

[@cia9419]

Why are you not buying a Tesla?

[@EVDude]

I actually ended up buying one in July, here's the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZLHlIqJp8Zkd6Msi=8b9cur1lfmAeGOO_

[@cia9419]

@@EVDude I am consider between getting this one va Tesla model 3 (old one) or model y (old one once the new one release) Which one do you recommend?

[@TeddyD802]

Time to get an ioniq 5

[@ajoykumardas6398]

This is a toy car. I am very sad to buy this car because its only problem is charging. First of all it takes long time to charge if 50% charged with level 3 it will take 2 hours 30 minutes. Then you have to keep the car at full stop which you have to suffer in extreme cold, heat. After that if you start the car and turn on the heat and AC then you can run the car for hundred miles. So don't waste your time and money buying this car. thank you 😂😂😢😅