Toyota GR Yaris Litchfield - First Impression, Interesting 🤔

[@INeedsMoneys]

Good video mate! Honest and straight to the point, a video like this is rare these days. Appreciate it

[@MrVaderino]

GR Yaris owner here and absolutely agree with all of your comments. Really looking forward for your thoughts after the modifications (or "de-modifications" as some people see it!) Cheers - got my mud flaps (kaylan material) from Rallyflapz btw

[@GRPLiningServices]

GR Yaris owner here. Keep stock with the following exceptions. Install mudflaps if you want to keep the side of the car cleaner. Exhaust, absolutely forget you ever heard of the Milltek pi55 poor built quality snot welded trash go HKS. Other than that enjoy your car in stick form you’ll love it. Oh and don’t forget a wrap or stickers to make it look sweet.

[@iandavidson99]

I'm a new subscriber! I have no idea how you're so humble and grounded?! Your car collection is the stuff of dreams! Astonishing!

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks Ian, it doesn’t seem real!

[@AndrewTetley-b8x]

I’ve had 3 GRY’s - I took one to Litchfield and spent £3k on Nitrons and lowered 20mm.The best day with it was when I had it put back to stock - it felt soo good. Toyota know what they’re doing. Reality is that people are just addicted to modifying cars, sometimes it’s a retrograde step

[@GRPLiningServices]

Stock car owner here and couldn’t agree more with you. When the aftermarket releases the mods and pay KZbinrs to promote them they ain’t even long term (years) tested but views count eh? Stock for me.

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks Andrew, I am enjoying learning here, next few videos wll be interesting

[@AndrewTetley-b8x]

@ would be interested in you driving a stock car for reference and your views on the future mkt of modified vs stock, I think the market for stock is a LOT more liquid

[@pauldavies7251]

​@@GRPLiningServices😂😂 some of us aren't sheep & have been tuning cars for way longer than social media clowns 🙈🤦‍♂️

[@mjolinir9]

Agreed on the Litchfield Nitrons. The problem I think is not the dampers which are excellent. The problem is the spring rates. For the road its just too hard. The dampers do their best but the fact is the springs are way too hard and on certain bumps, it gets too crashy. I went back to stock and gosh it felt so good.

[@user-xu5vl5th9n]

Conclusion: Toyota are better at designing cars than aftermarket improvisors. Would have been better off buying a standard, unmolested car.

[@Max-eh1os]

Loads better gpf deleted

[@RowanHick]

Yeah on mine I've kept it stock. When it's no longer a daily I'll go absolutely ballistic (sequential, turbo, cams etc), I think there's no middle ground. It's just so good stock and that's the beauty of it. When I bought it, it came with a larger exhaust, you only want it on for a week then you get sick of it... Now, you compared to say the mkv supra which just comes alive when you do ecu/downpipe/intake etc.Very happy with the modded Supra and stock GRY.

[@v9photoworks700]

@@RowanHick I found mine very bland as standard. Adding an exhaust and intake transforms it into a completely different animal. 25k miles in now and loving it.

[@grahamhaynes7658]

Better message Ohlins and tell them to shut up shop then 🤣

[@ElleyElley-et4ky]

Very mild mods are ok. GR is an amazing car 🚗

[@ericvermeulen9853]

Former GR Yaris owner here, good mods I would say is good and proper engine mounts, stock ones just don’t last, decat and intercooler and bigger boost pipes and a mild tune and it was fantastic , be careful on the exhaust it will be to drony

[@VidNibs]

You should have gone for a stock GR Yaris. I’ve owned mine for two years now (bought it brand new), and while I’ve been tempted to modify it, I haven’t touched a thing. Why? Because Toyota nailed it right from the factory. Too often, I’ve seen these cars ruined with ill-conceived modifications that compromise their essence. The GR Yaris is a rally car at heart, and that’s how it should stay. The ride height is intentional, and the higher seating position complements its design-I personally prefer it that way. As for exhaust mods, they just make the car louder without improving the sound. The stock exhaust may not be perfect, but aftermarket options often amplify the droney, boomy tones, making it downright obnoxious. If you wanted something even more focused, the GRMN variant is probably the way to go-it’s dialed in straight from the factory and needs nothing. That said, I’m more than happy with my stock GR Yaris. It’s a fantastic daily driver with plenty of performance to stand out in today’s market. It’s true, the GR Yaris will never fully capture what the old Evos and STIs represented. Those cars belonged to a different era-raw, surgical, and intensely focused. But their big downside was how impractical they were for daily use. They felt like they were falling apart at high speeds and were exhausting to drive over time. The GR Yaris, on the other hand, strikes a perfect balance: practical enough for daily driving yet thrilling enough to remind you of its rally DNA. Toyota really got it right with this one.

[@ricchrono5907]

On point.

[@robmarks4137]

Totally agree 👍

[@DarrenCheesbrough]

Mine is stock and I’m not shy of tastefully modifying cars. I think it works so well on the road as is. Doesn’t need to be any faster to enjoy it. Dampers need to move to do their job properly. I don’t actually think it’s a track car, it’s more at home on the roads. I can’t help thinking from your comments that a standard car would suit you and your daughters needs better. You need to drive them before you buy them Richard! 😊 Thanks for the videos, glad the channel is really picking up!

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks Darren, I will get right thats for sure, also track days coming up and we will see true performance

[@adamski1400]

GR owner of 3 years and couldn't agree more and fair play for saying it as it is. Too much BS around modifications on YT.. look at the real world owners forums and you get a different picture. Some of the best mods on these are little tweaks e.g mirror riser, different gear knob, pedal extension for heel and toe etc

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks Adam, I like just saying it as it is on cars - if they are good or not so good. Next few weeks will be interesting

[@garynesbitt5078]

Very interesting to hear your thoughts on a reasonably heavy modded GRY, especially a Lichfield one. Car modification is all about individual preference which is the beauty of being able to set the car up to suit the individuals tastes. I’ve had mine for about 8 months now and have undertaken some mods - eventuri intake, HJS downpipe, resonated opf delete and resonated milltek exhaust. This has given the car a much more responsive feel and due to the resonated system it doesn’t drone. It is only loud under hard acceleration. I will not do anything to the suspension for the reason you spoke about. It’s set up perfectly from stock for bumpy B roads imo. I did fit spring theory spacers which improved the look and stance without messing with the springs or dampers. Never understood the negativity on the seats or seating position - it’s a rally homologation car not a circuit car. The car is about fun and carrying speed quickly on twisty roads. If you are chasing huge bhp numbers and 0-60 times, buy another car !

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks Gary, looking forward to the next videos

[@rhysevans1401]

I have a Subaru P1 that’s done just over 16,400 miles that I’ve just upgraded the suspension to the Bilstein Prodrive WR set up that Prodrive always wanted to fit on these back in the day. The car also has a quick steering rack and high caster control arms. Handling and turn in are pin sharp and the suspension copes so well with broken B road tarmac and doesn’t fight with the road. I test drove a GR Yaris and find that the older Evos and Imprezas are a much better driving experience than the GR Yaris. It’s also nice that you don’t have to worry about what setting you’re in or have to worry about lane assist, stop start or getting confused with load of buttons on the steering wheel! Just get in, turn the key and enjoy! With the GR Yaris seats, from my test drive I’d stick with the standard mounts and not look to lower. I’m around 6ft 1 and found that if I was to go any lower then I’d struggle to get a good view of the road as the dash board is quite high and can block your view. Just something for you to consider with the seats.

[@Challengetheroad]

That’s Awesome 🙌 I had a P1 back in the day

[@Challengetheroad]

Hmm 🤔 I will have a think on the seats

[@andyg-wi8sz]

Agreed. Looking forward to seeing a good road setup!

[@shiftinggears9896]

The Yaris is a lovely motor. Surprisingly quick for 260hp

[@tyl1795]

I’ve owned my GR from new (4 years this month) I don’t drive it everyday but absolutely love it and other than the exhaust it’s totally standard, the exhaust has a resonator so it’s not boomy all the time good compromise for me. I’ve modded cars in the past and whether standard or modded you have to compromise even with the mod there are things that are mad ‘worse’. Then there’s the take it all off or have original parts for resale, tells you all you need to know about modifying IMO.

[@sodazman]

As an owner of a modded GR Yaris and fully built Evo, I will say that no amount of modding will give you the feel of those older cars. The Evo in particular, has a sharpness, aggressiveness and rawness that the GR Yaris can't even hope to match.

[@Challengetheroad]

I think so!

[@ElleyElley-et4ky]

TOTALLY different generation of car building. 90s in my opinion ALL car brands peaked in quality and build. Today's cars are a shadow of what they once were..Toyota today still build decent cars but not as good as back in the day. Evo is a great car as is the GR, in todays cars GR is the best in its class by a mile.. Worked the tools since 1986, seen it all

[@josoap8781]

I’ve only had my standard (apart from a Whifbitz exhaust) Circuit Rack GRY for a couple of weeks and less than 300 miles. I was surprised how compliant and un-crashy the suspension is. I’m perfectly happy with the ride. I’m not sure about the exhaust noise, but that’s the only thing I don’t particularly like apart from having to turn off the annoying engine auto stop/start. If you want to have a car for serious tracking then there are big compromises, which is why production road cars don’t handle like racing cars. 😉

[@popsbubbles1242]

I bought one in 21, PPF'd it and left it stock apart from seat lowering kit (great option)and mirror riser. I considered power upgrades and suspension (BOS French company that makes rally suspension), but have not bothered as the suspension seems to have improved with use and power wise for the road this is OK.

[@n1xkf526]

Got standard suspension with a set of Konig Hypergrams with Pirelli SF2’s, originally for winter but are good for all year round. For crappy british roads the suspension/tyre combo works well, the way the car moves it just feels right.

[@lambethlongshanks7990]

Ive got a stock one (circuit pack). I love it. Im not really a car bloke: motorcycles are more my thing. This is a great car.

[@Challengetheroad]

I went for a proper drive today in smooth A roads so good 😊 b roads we need to get right

[@lambethlongshanks7990]

@Challengetheroad amen, brother.

[@Murtayafourfun]

The standard car out of the box is good enough in my opinion. I did numerous trackdays and regularly got air on the roads in Wales with no grounding out. Although I am loving the Subaru powered Murtaya with the turbo flutter and rally sounding flat four sound track, full 3 inch system. It’s really raw Richard, way more than the EVO, and with 320bhp and 900kg it’s like a ballistic missile lol

[@darrenprior6339]

I bought a set of Eibach progressive rate, adjustable springs from String Theory garage and lowered the car by just 10mm (Which is how much they lowered the GRMN model available only in Japan). I did it mostly because the car looked too high but I didn't want to radically alter the car's character and I reckon Toyota got the dampers spot on. The Eibachs are designed to work in conjunction with the OEM dampers and are 10% firmer at the front and 20% firmer at the rear. I absolutely love them and the faster you go and the worse the road gets, the better they feel. Just wish they fitted the Gen 2 (which I just recently bought ) but Toyota altered the front strut design so they no longer fit. Bugger. Good luck with your build in the future. Cheers.

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you, I think one is set totally for track and I will get some middle ground in the next few weeks 🙌

[@ianc666]

I had Goodyear Vector all seasons on my GR Yaris. Standard sized. They worked very well in all conditions.

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks Ian, did it improve ride and road noise levels

[@ianc666]

@Challengetheroad They were a bit quieter and definitely more supple. Turn in wasn't as sharp as you'd expect but overall I was very impressed. I was running them on an 8.5" rim so not a completely like for like comparison.

[@ghowells5433]

Great call on all season tyres they are fantastic. Unfortunately can’t get them on my m3 touring. PS4s are good in summer but a bit rubbish currently

[@chrisleech333]

I'm trying to convince my wife to get a Yaris GR. Epic little motor

[@Challengetheroad]

Cannot wait to get it my set up soon!

[@Lou-f]

If it’s set up for track, then use it only in track. The last deltas had longer travel springs, so put longer softer springs on it. The nitrons are better dampers than stock they can be revalved.

[@iPod2024]

In regards to the exhaust I’ve had the same issue, the full Akra is really loud. A good middle ground is keeping the rear section of the Akra and fit the Oem OPF section back on. It will still be as loud on cold start unfortunately but MUCH quieter when driving which you might also find to be a good compromise!

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you, I will try that first to see how it sounds

[@iPod2024]

@@Challengetheroad pleasure. Also, I can confirm clutch is very high. I was also worried at the start but seems normal. I also had the Litchfield very first map on mine and upgraded it to the newer Ecutek one with them. Car definitely feels a bit faster and smoother but not night and day, I suspect you might have an issue if you find your car slow as mine definitely wasn’t ! With the new Ecutek I can put it back to stock map on my own with my phone if I want to and i like the fact that I have control now and don’t rely on anyone if I need to map it again or put back to stock ! 👍

[@randomman1050]

I love a dirty GR Yaris.... Grrrrrrr Very nice round up, Subscribed Oh clutch, very clumsy first to second as standard if your tootling along. It likes a rip to second.

[@jonathancollard3710]

I’m going to Bedford Autodrome on Monday… it’s an ideal car for that track..

[@big98181]

I have an Eventuri and HKS Super Turbo titanium that sounds fantastic. I also have coilovers that spoil the fun and ride on the road as its too bouncy, but they work great on the track.

[@mattosborne2706]

The rev hang between gear changes would be enough to put me off. I had to sell a car due to this modern 'feature' .

[@timwattison4419]

I put AST coilovers on from String Theory. Set at notch 2 on the rebound at all 4 corners, lowered quite a bit too. The rides fine and looks so much better than stock. 21.5 spacers fitted too. No probs with clearance or catching. SWT seats lowering with standard seats, perfect. Alcantara steering wheel, mega upgrade !!! As reguards to power, im happy with 260bhp, where in the uk can you use it in all honesty. One final thing, i fitted a HT Autos rear wing, sets the car off a treat. Spent 5K on that lot, it'll stay like this as its great.

[@bacho2482]

With the GR Yaris it all depends what you want to use it for. If you want something track focused there are some mods which will help - i.e. cooling for diffs. There are way better cars for more track focused fun. But out of the box as a standard car the GR Yaris is perfect for me. Like you I use mine for picking up child from kindergarten and having fun on b-roads. I think it's hard to compare or want to make it like a 90s Evo/Subaru as cars have changed and so have rally, safety and emissions regs considerably over that period of time. But for a new car with a Toyota warranty they are awesome. For mud flaps I would recommend MFF ones from Japan (Tegiwa stock them in UK) with no drilling needed unlike with other brands.

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you, Next video will be interesting had a first good drive Sunday!

[@SChapps]

Stock ride height with a set of mud flaps would be the way for me personally, looks better and more usable

[@benpenagonzales6014]

Our little Hyundai i20N has got conti all seasons as premium, best in the dry option but obvs still works in the snow etc. came in handy for last weeks school run!

[@karen527]

Great video Richard im really interested in the Yaris after selling my 370z I quite fancy one of these so interested in your thoughts on it. Can’t wait for the next one mate really enjoying your videos this year 👍

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks Karen, looking forward to next week new tyres and suspension sorted hopefully

[@VerangaF430]

Proper enthusiast collection! My pick is Evo rs

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you, I really love the Evo TME RS even though Subaru at heart!

[@keyo525]

Might be easier just let it go - I know they are fun but a 5 cylinder Audi or Ford Rs is the only odd cylinder car I would own.

[@ricchrono5907]

Nah mate, I think you are bang on, every single point. Personally I don’t think this is a car that needs modifications. At most just some chassis strengthening and cooling. It’s great as it is in stock form. I have been running stock for 2 years, only put on the gr stock intake tube, front and rear strut bars plus rear seats deleted, undertray would also be replaced by the grmn version with better cooling efficiency during summer, might install a proper rear diffuser in times to come, will see.

[@thrasher10000]

Any notable difference with the gr intake?

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you 🙏 I will work my way to a good set up for me

[@ricchrono5907]

@@thrasher10000 yes indeed 👍🏻

[@ricchrono5907]

@@Challengetheroad look forward to your update.

[@timhayward6833]

I put the HKS HiPower Spec-L II exhaust on my GRY with very good results, not too bad on cold start, nice rumble when you are not on it but then great sound when you push it. Here in NZ the Japanese after market products are much better value than European.

[@woznaldo]

It’s a personal taste thing and the environment you intend to run the car. I have the Litchfield Nitrons and absolutely love them. With the dampers in the firmer setting it’s very stiff. Ideal for track days and when I back them off I find the ride is better than stock. I also run DNA Racing top mounts that allow me to run way more caster. I found this really helped the car turn in and provided more feel through the steering. I find the stock seats way too high. I have to recline them if wearing a helmet on track. Toyota themselves lowered the seats in the mk2. Finally, exhaust is a tough one. Stock was too quiet and most aftermarket ones are too boomy. I’ve found the 3 banger needs a resonance chamber to make them sound better. It will never be as good as a four cylinder but the resonance chamber really helps. I’d have a play around with the dampers before you write them off. Interestingly, Nitron developed their own spec dampers for the car with a coilover rear and slightly different valving. It’s your car. Do whatever makes you happy.

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you, good feedback there, I am sure I will get a good balance here, just need time

[@hughhale578]

You bought the wrong Yaris, the new Mark two has everything you wanted without any modification its sensational.

[@Challengetheroad]

Can you buy a Mark 2 currently? Also 10k less in value this one? Happy to be wrong

[@ElleyElley-et4ky]

​@@Challengetheroadnew one lot more expensive sadly

[@AmjadJDM]

HKS Legamax is the best exhaust on the GRY imo. Adds a bit of volume/tone without being annoying or boomy 235/40R18 also go a long way to take a bit of harshness out of the ride (yes it's fine on the stock alloys) I drove Litchfield's demo car and it rode a lot better than my oem car on flowing country roads. Firm but controlled, however I don't know how it would have felt on really bad roads.

[@rhysgriffiths9269]

I fear swapping the exhaust might affect the map Richard. Might be worth getting Litchfield’s opinion.

[@andrew.jackman.44]

Ah here Richard, I enjoy your videos & content however I have to say please leave the car the way it is. A lot of work has been done to the car, sell it to someone who will enjoy it, why reverse engineer what's already been done to it. Sell it & buy a standard one, I think that's would make more sense

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks Andrew, people keep messaging me the same thing - look like another car next week 🤣

[@MarkThornber]

I have the SW Motorsport lowering bracket with the standard seats; perfect for me. I also raised the rear view mirror by 15mm, so that there’s a wider view. Don’t know where you’re based, but you’re welcome to try it if you’re not too far away?

[@sidrens5292]

Epic collection! Makes Shmee-150 collection look average. All epic and incredibly valuable!!!! The P1 is the king and the SV not far behind!

[@STIStuff]

Does this have Syvecs ECU? If so, then you can easily tweak the throttle map to get that feeling how you want/expect. For my car I'm keeping suspension standard, and adding some house keeping mods like oil cooler and better intercooler. ECUTek map, done. Oh i did change exhaust as the standard one is near silent. Don't want folks thinking it's an EV :)

[@Car10121-s]

I couldn’t have those cars sitting there and not drive them. Also, was the car not test driven before you purchased it?

[@sidrens5292]

You would if they are worth as much as they are - I totally agree with you but it’s an extremely valuable collection and added miles/use just devalues them.

[@TonyFleming-v2m]

I can see you want to enjoy making this car to your taste, but surely it would have been better to sell it to someone who will appreciate those mods for the track and save money purchasing a standard GR. A more dirt friendly colour for the road would be useful too. Love the vids.

[@Challengetheroad]

Hi Tony, my plan was to sell the mods, go back original if I sold the car. I have everything here, I am just waiting for next few weeks to see how we go.

[@robmarks4137]

The Car is deceptively quick as i have also a modified ST fiesta and it keeps up withxalot more composure.

[@robertarthur3711]

I’ve had my pearl white CP 2020 car from new, now 55000 miles, I’ve never felt the need to modify it. Friends keep saying mod it, I’m leaving as is.

[@fredericfuknchopin4552]

Just get the standard car with no mods. It really doesn't need anything doing to it unless you want to sound loud. The only complaint i have with it is its so grippy its hard to break traction in the dry without doing silly speeds which puts the car in jeopardy if you ain't a pro.

[@Challengetheroad]

I am looking forward to all season tyres this week

[@jimmyjt16]

I like these GR’s Richard, but I worry they may be too good for the Road. The grip level is so high that I don’t think I’ll have much fun in it.

[@GRPLiningServices]

A car staying on the road is a good idea though?

[@bertiebasset1752]

On cold start the engine sounds like it's under water once you put a loud exhaust on. Awful sound. You should've bought a standard spec car which are perfect for daily fast road use. I kept mine standard from new and resisted the temptation to modify. Sold it 2 weeks ago and miss it so much. Smooth gearbox and strong clutch, comfortable drive and very responsive once you wind it up. Huge grip levels especially in the wet. Too many of these cars weren't run in properly especially when it comes to the transmission. I ran mine in for 621 miles and couldnt complain about anything when warmed up and pushed. I used AP carbon fibre front mudflpas, nice and sutble and did the job perfectly.

[@thrasher10000]

Did you drive a stock one before buying the Lichfield? Just wondering if you have that baseline point of reference?

[@Challengetheroad]

I drove a stock one on a previous video, I didn’t drive the Litchfield as I was interested how close reviews are to actual driving.

[@thrasher10000]

@@Challengetheroad ah right good to know! It ends up being a super useful video for GRY owners like myself that were considering various mods, made me think twice about a few of them ha

[@Andy-qh9su]

With hindsight, do you think a standard car would have been a better starting point ? Looking forward to seeing what steps you take to get the car more to your liking

[@Challengetheroad]

I think I be ok Andy, remember I have all the standard parts with the cars and a set of pro track alloys for the track. I would like to wait for the second video when the damper is sorted and new tyres etc

[@EvoraGT430]

Rally suspension always the best.

[@Zenyettamondatta]

I am sure initially you were buying this for your daughter 🤣🤣🤣 save the gearbox on you Clio, I remember buying a 911 for my wife and explaining to her she would love it, or maybe I wanted one for the weekends but 6 months later she sold it and bought a new Corsa I was gutted needless to say Ive not bought her another car since, it was never for her if Im honest but thats how us men justified things😁😁😁😁😁

[@dirklangenaken5831]

I honestly think that too much Yaris driver are wrongly advised by vloggers driving these cars on a circuit. It’s a rally homologation car for God’s sake. Why changing and lowering it to a circuit car? I enjoy driving this car on B-roads and this in all types of weather. Than this little car is an extremely sharp weapon. Mine is standard with exception of an EEC approved Milltek exhaust, eVentury Carbon Airbox and an improved cooling system by Forged. That’s everything. I don’t have any problem with the seating height, I don’t have any problem with its power (which is sufficient enough for its tended use). So I agree with the author in concluding that the standard car with it’s fantastic Michelin Pilot Sports doesn’t need improvements. That’s also the reason why I would never trade it in for the 2nd generation. It has that lovely badge under the gear which reminds you what kind of car it is, which the 2nd generation doesn’t have. Of course the 2nd generation will be better, but taken into consideration the price they ask for that car, the 1st generation is a real bargain and one of my favourite cars. If you like to drive on a circuit, there are a lot of alternatives (Lotus, Alpine, Porsche, …) in all kind of price levels. Nice review with honest opinion of the author

[@sultanoftippoo3857]

Someone who gets it! Totally agree with everything you said. Had mine for coming up to three years and it’s been my daily driver in that time. I never understood those who disliked things like the seat position which was specified by Tommi Makinen (I can only assume they saw the Yaris as another hot hatch track day weapon and not a car designed for WRC homologation).

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you 🙏

[@davidpegg4516]

Always make me laugh when cars have been modded by people thinking they can ‘improve’ a car. Manufacturers spend millions on R&D. They get it right most of the time. Just return this car to stock and go from there.

[@albert-w1m]

People always want to modified car. The GR is an homologation car, it's retro engineering which makes it special. In m'y opinion it's a non sense to upgrade a such car expect if you do racing or of you have another one. And i think it's also decreasing the reselling price.

[@zzhughesd]

GR over the Focus ??????

[@sebastianspalding5016]

try taking the speakers out lol

[@anthony208]

Would it not be a sensible move to beg or borrow a stocker to try for reference purposes, either to confirm your thoughts/ proposed changes before going ahead with the work? If nothing else it would make good content to see if all your changes were for the better or not, I’m sure your viewers would not be slow in confirming their thoughts, positive or negative 🤔🏁

[@ccshell]

To me that’s too over modded. I’ve got a bog standard one with an eventuri; nothing else, and it’s brilliant

[@mjolinir9]

Not sure of the type of ECU tuning you have but if its a tuning box just dump it. These modern ECUs are so sophisticated that a tuning box just won't work. The ECU sort of knows its been fooled by the the tuning box and just scales everything back. And then the engine won't be as revvy as before and even the boost feels a bit meh. Switching back to stock just made everything feel better again. You'd have to spend quite a bit of cash on something like a Motec or ECUtek to get real permanent gains.

[@natel5370]

Go and see Ben at string theory no one better mate for these in my opinion .. I would go ohlins dfv it’s the best ride on Subaru Evos so should be on that too

[@Challengetheroad]

It has string theory geo etc, lets see in a weeks time

[@natel5370]

Tbf these car manufacturers spend millions on development and we think we can make them better ? A decent set of dampers more fast road focused and a rear arb is all that car needs I am guessing with a decent fast rd geo. I own a last of the line Jdm 2013 sti hatch rev (e )with Cusco dampers adjustable in car electronically and rear diff and a few braces stock power I can terrorise GT4’s at Cadwell you don’t need massive power and all these pushed upon us mods “we must do” my car is standard engine wise I love being a quiet underdog Toyota are not silly they built a good car that’s easily ruined. I sold as S202 years ago the guy modded it and I drove it that car was horrendous some things are best left alone for purpose 👍🏻

[@grahamhaynes7658]

You didnt choose the mods so no surprise some aren't to your taste,pick what you want and sell what you dont.Some will be happy stock,i wasn't and wouldn't own one stock,done thousands of miles in both stock and modified.

[@shaeerhassan6138]

Feel like you would have enjoyed this as a standard car the way Toyota made them rather than buying a modified one

[@Challengetheroad]

Let’s see the next few weeks how it goes

[@robmarks4137]

No potholes please,that might help

[@boristabacsplatt6609]

Could be you would have been happier with a gen2 GRY. Much improved from the original mechanically and better driver ergos. Test drive one before you start reversing the Litchfield mods.

[@Challengetheroad]

It’s 10k more than the car I bought and I have all the original parts here to work on. Lets see in the next few weeks how we go

[@Colette1972UK]

Are those all your cars

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you, yes they are

[@KN-jw7ts]

What a collection. 👌🏼

[@solefreak2]

@@Challengetheroad What do you do for a living aside from KZbin? Great collection

[@Colette1972UK]

@@Challengetheroad wow 😃

[@perolito83]

Sounds like you should have just bought a convenience pack GR mate, I think that would solve most of your issues.

[@Challengetheroad]

Hopefully arrives Monday

[@robmarks4137]

Look!let's be Honest! Who's kidding themselves thinking they can do a better job than GR racing,ive got one and have modified it minimally, just lower springs and spacers cos it did have abit of unnecessary roll,Rides way better.although IT IS A RALLYCAR.

[@mikejoseph425]

I don’t know how much you paid, but seems to me you should have bought the Gen 2

[@Challengetheroad]

10k less than Gen 2 and all the original parts 👍

[@lastexile1187]

IMO buying a modded one wasnt the right choice for you; youre just not the type who mods cars apparently. I agree with the exhaust though and it sounds like a right cowboy has been at the suspension settings. Regarding the power - people are absolutely obsessed with the peak figures these cars can manage but those that know better will say "the area under the curve" is what matters more - for driving you want a flatter torque curve and more linear delivery. When youre asking a 3 pot engine to hit the same peak power that 4/5/6 cylinders can manage you'll always be leaving something on the table - more turbo lag and later spool is inevitable. That being said you could bring it to someone to do some fueling/ignition timing trickery to "fill in" a bit and make it produce power more progressively.

[@Cloud-yp4eh]

Your idea of raising the car to make it more compliant won’t work unfortunately as yours simply raising the position of the same spring with the same spring rate. Softer springs is the way to go.

[@bispal]

Great concept, and I'm glad Toyota made it BUT I just didn't get it when driving. Less than the sum of its parts, I would say. Chief issue is no feedback from the chassis. I can't tell what the GRY is doing. Yes, I could push on, but how big an accident could you have when you suddenly discover its limits without warning? It's not a fun car, it's bigger than you think, it doesn't sound great and visibility is poor. Steering, suspension, and gearchange are all average. Nothing stands out. Just my tuppence. Sell it and move on to something more fun.

[@KN-jw7ts]

The exact opposite take for 99% of ppl that have driven one……but ok buddy.

[@bispal]

​@@KN-jw7ts yes I know. I do have a few mates who have sold for the same reason but yes I'm with the 1% and have a different view 👍🏻

[@mikejoseph425]

⁠​⁠@@KN-jw7tsI never take any notice of people who think they are cool by calling everyone “Buddy”. Very artificial, like the piped exhaust sound

[@ElleyElley-et4ky]

Suspension steering average? 😂. You having a laugh. Most precise steering, point the wheel where you wanna go and car takes you there. You're wrong on this. Big time wrong.

[@bispal]

@ I didn't get much, if any, feedback from the EPS. That seems to to echoed by other owners in on line forums. I've read the new car is much improved, which shows there was headroom for improvement. A lot depends on your frame of reference and I'm sure ours will differ as you believe its the 'most precise steering' Reply

[@bobanppvc]

Gr yaris suffers of understeer and its sport car.These mods are adressing that problem if you dont like it dont push your "truth" bcs some of us like good handling

[@Challengetheroad]

Hmm not sure I like grounding out a lot but next video is interesting tonight

[@neilbenton1152]

Just as fast as a 911 gt3 rs 😂

[@Challengetheroad]

i think it will be on short tracks like Bedford north but obviously not long tracks

[@KN-jw7ts]

Definitely on a backroad, and real world driving. You know better huh?

[@thrasher10000]

Obviously never been to a track day that featured the GRY haha

[@sultanoftippoo3857]

@neilbenton. On a dry twisty B road then yes, just as fast as a GT3 RS. On the same road that is damp or wet, no contest it would destroy the Porsche. Two cars built to do two different jobs, simple as that.

[@AndrewCherry458]

Please remember all this when you get your mk2 focus rs, standard is way better

[@Challengetheroad]

On the list!

[@bigladdan]

Richard you've managed to buy a GR Yaris that has been ruined. Did 38k miles in mine, String Theory geo and spring set up, Recaro CS seats fantastic road car.

[@Challengetheroad]

Hi Dan, its has string theory geo etc, next video will be interesting

[@arctictruck10]

There are no professional rally cars that are manual transmission. These mods on the automatic transmission Yaris would be better for track days and daily driving in bumper to bumper traffic. Get rid of this slow manual and follow in Volkswagens process of dropping the manual for the GTI and R. Logic over emotion on this silliness of thinking of the engagement of driving. In that logic you should remove your power windows for manul cranks for the "engagement" witch doesn't win races.

[@richardsmith4625]

Rally flapz

[@mixxeerr]

You’re rich enough to get a proper rally suspension from Reiger.

[@Challengetheroad]

Hmm you are tempting me now!

[@Challengetheroad]

Google search!

[@mixxeerr]

@ Yeah you mentioned you've had many types of high end suspension... Nitron, Ohlins, etc. Me too. Multiple circuit clubsport type builds using Nitron R3's, Ohlins, JRZ, etc. And judging from your selection of cars and your description of how you use it, you can think about a proper tarmac rally suspension from Reiger. They are long stroke suspension with really trick valving to somehow keep the car flat through corners. You can also youtube "Rally2 Yaris" and watch those Rally2 GRY's on tarmac... it's amazing how you can see how long the stroke is yet the car is so flat through corners and so nimble. You can also google "Corner Nz" which has a really nice blog/writeups on modding the Yaris. It's Czech so you'll need to use Google Translate. Search for their KZbin channel as well and watch their awesome driving on the mountains!

[@beecee985]

For goodness sake, why didn't you just buy a standard car, not this awful chav skip, not very wise there chief

[@Challengetheroad]

Lets see how the next videos go

[@kevinclarkson9611]

It’s all about personal preference, light mods are best.i think u should have bought a std car! And stop waffling on about I got here and this a that! Annoying!

[@Challengetheroad]

As I said I will get the car to how I would like it to be?

[@kevinclarkson9611]

Think you should have bought a std car tho, those Litchfield seats haven’t worn well either! I have done 28k in Mine and they are like new👍🚗

[@Challengetheroad]

We have the track days coming up this year though.