Toyota's Bandaid Fix for Tacoma & Tundra PCS Sensor | Don't Do This At Home!

[@SoCalOutdoors]

I have the same cheap Chinese after market pro grill and Toyota never questioned it and did the fix.

[@bigstrongfast]

Kayak Fishing SoCal I need mine done what dealership should I go to

[@SoCalOutdoors]

Alex Figueroa I’m in SoCal, I went to south coast Toyota

[@gentile1947]

We had snow here in southern New Hampshire today and pre collision light did come on. This was a great video thank you! I think I will bring my 2019 Tacoma Limited to the dealer though in case there is a software update required. I don’t see the link to that pad you applied either. Thanks again!

[@RobMotive]

I think there was a link in an earlier video🤔

[@runningman26.22]

I have a 2018 Tundra 1794. Received the recall notice and had my dealer fix the issue per the notice. They put the Tundra version of the waterproof seal over the sensor and performed the software update. They checked the sensor software before beginning the fix, and the sensor had been malfunctioning without any visible signs to me (diagnostics showed multiple error codes). They ended up replacing the sensor as well as performing the fix. Don’t assume it’s fine just because you have not seen any issues...

[@RobMotive]

Good advice👍

[@justjoe7266]

If you take a look around the engine bay you'll notice many wire connectors have no rubber boot covers, you'll see multi colored wiring coming out from corrugated conduit to the plastic connector and plugged in, some have electrical tape wrapped around the wire. Cost saving for the manufacturer to not apply moisture proofing rubber boots over connectors ? They need to apply better protection on all. See the connections in front of master cylinder reservoir on Tundra, I''ll be retrofitting a cover there before washing the engine bay.

[@RobMotive]

Yup...they all cut corners wherever they can it seems!

[@timgreene6967]

Is there anywhere you can get that pad like Walmart Home Depot or anything like that that you may know of

[@RobMotive]

Not sure? I’ve never looked 🤔

[@vavhab]

That is the official Toyota fix? OMG it is ridiculous... I took my Tundrato the dealership last week and I were told they have to order parts to be able to remediate the issue. What parts? A foam pad? :D :D

[@RobMotive]

Lol!! Maybe Amazon was out of stock!!😁

[@kpdaddario]

Interestingly enough I took mine in today, after market knockoff TRD Pro style grill, and the dealer applied the fix and software update. So there's that.

[@RobMotive]

That’s great!! Really depends on the dealer I think 🤔

[@kpdaddario]

Yeah. I was pleasantly surprised. I'll take it though.

[@yezkaholic]

What's the purpose of the sealant? Free of charge?

[@RobMotive]

Supposed to keep water out of the sensor. It’s covered under warranty.

[@yezkaholic]

@@RobMotive so if change my grille it would need to be the original OEM in order to be covered by the warranty

[@terrancetatum7599]

Wow, I think you did a better job than my dealer. Had I only known, I would have brought it to you for the repair. LOL My front camera kit is supposed to be delivered tomorrow. After I get it installed in my TRD Faux grille, I plan to remount the PCS sensor in it. I'll use your (non) recommended procedure to re-seal it. Thanks for the post!

[@RobMotive]

Lol!! It came out pretty well. Thank you for the pics 👍👍

[@trdsupercharger8089]

Have you also heard of the washers you add on the top screws of the sensor?

[@RobMotive]

Yup👍

[@trdsupercharger8089]

Did you try that too? Do you think it would work to make the collision off warning light not come on?

[@RobMotive]

It’s possible. Depends on what’s wrong 🤔

[@trdsupercharger8089]

Well I put a new front grille emblem "T" on my 2018 toyota tundra and when I drive the collision off warning light comes on. Just wondering if I put the washers it might angle it a little up?

[@RobMotive]

I’d say it’s the emblem 🤔

[@WVFAN1958]

I just bought a 2019 Toyota Toyota Tundra sport 5.7 L .. I ask my sales person about how it works and I would like to see it work...they acted like I was crazy..the 4 weeks I’ve had it and it’s never lit up. how do I know if it’s working ? I have it turned on. Thanks for sharing your videos. Very good stuff.

[@RobMotive]

Unfortunately some salesmen aren’t very knowledgeable 😬

[@desertpyrotechics]

I had a after market grill and they fixed it with no problems.

[@RobMotive]

It’s hit or miss. Depends in your dealer I think. According to Toyota’s statement...they will not.

[@kenny3552]

What a Mickey Mouse fix! (Not you Rob...Toyota's solution!). Maybe Toyota should have resigned the PCS housing instead of putting a band-aid on it. I doubt that the problem is all the prevalent however and this is just a precaution. I'm still waiting to take mine in for the recall....I have service scheduled in a few weeks and I'll get it done then. I have not had any issues with my PCS yet.

[@RobMotive]

I know right!! How long do you suppose that thing will stick on there. No way is it watertight either!!

[@jadams2598]

I have the same problem, I kept trying to get the dealership to fix it but because they put a leveling kit on it, and have a different bumber. Had to get a man at a body shop to Clear the code. Love the truck, but have had hell with this

[@RobMotive]

It’s a drag!! Not a fan of the system myself!!🤔

[@tla1950]

Toyota fixed my sealant recall but I had to sign a waiver (lifted and bigger tires) and then they shut off the adaptive cruise. Have a warning light on all the time. Wonder how I can get the adaptive cruise activated again?

[@RobMotive]

It shouldn’t have deactivated . Have you contacted the dealer again?

[@tla1950]

@@RobMotive I didn’t realize all they were going to do was put some foam over it, everything was working fine. They told me they would deactivate it, and I had to sign a waiver. I can’t even get the standard cruise on. I didn’t think it would be that big of a deal to get it turned back on.

[@paraTRUEper]

So Toyota did not foresee, with all that marvelous ''safety'' technology, that it might rain somewhere in the world? I can hardly wait to entrust my life to an autonomous vehicle one day.

[@RobMotive]

Lol!! You’d have thought they’d have water tested the unit!!!!!🤔

[@paraTRUEper]

@@RobMotive car washes not recommended

[@RobMotive]

Lol!!!! 😁

[@TheVtecdelsol]

Your truck having the pms moment haha 😂

[@silkamilkamonico]

I just bought truck brand new, was going to do put Pro grill in, and noticed the tss sensor has the black neoprene strip covering it and glued to the grille. I'm so mad, going to have to figure out how to get that thing off first. I wonder if you asked Toyota if they would give/sell you the black strip they use and you could just put it on yourself.

[@RobMotive]

I did not ask Toyota. It should be pretty easy to duplicate. Especially if you have both grilles sitting right in front of you. 👍

[@silkamilkamonico]

You right. Nowit's just finding a way to remove this neoprene patch that's glued on to my senor and frame so I can get to the screws to unscrew it. Dammit anyways

[@RobMotive]

It’s a drag...but I bet you’ll be able to pull it right off👍

[@JesseRizo]

Well thanks for this rob cuz my truck got denied 😂 not cuz the lift but like u said just the grill I’m just to lazy to put my stock one back on, Thanks for the disclaimer ;) I think ima still concur this myself lol thanks again 👍

[@RobMotive]

It seems to be hit or miss! Some dealers are going ahead with the fix and some refuse. At least this part of it is pretty easy to do👍

[@phils7625]

@Jesse Rizo Did you ever figure out on the fix for that or what Rob did work on the truck?

[@sithsince81]

What if you have OEM trd pro grill? Will they fix? Instead of aftermarket...

[@RobMotive]

My understanding is they will as long as it’s OEM.

[@Secretlvr1]

The TRD Pro and Non TRD Pro grills have their own unique fixes. You just put a band aid where one isn't needed.

[@pixelfacekillah]

Your work looks BETTER than the Toyota job.

[@RobMotive]

Lol!! Thanks👍

[@tundrawhisperer4821]

Well hear this goofy crap Rob. I literally just got off the phone after Toyota called me saying there was an additional fix for my millimeter wave radar sensor, I said another one?! They said yes, this involves installing a sealant to keep water out. And here’s the kicker, my pre-collision sensors, you know all the ones in the bumpers, this feature would be permanently disabled as part of the fix. WHAT THE HELL TOYOTA!? I told them everything is working just as it should at the moment, and your not touching a thing on my Tundra. 😁If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it! Crazy stuff!

[@RobMotive]

Wow!! Did they say how much of a refund you’d be receiving? I mean you did pay for a functioning system when you bought it! 🤬

[@tundrawhisperer4821]

RobMotive your correct Rob, I’ve been thinking about that, I’ve paid for these crazy safety features, but no word on any refund of course! What is going on with cars and all this safety stuff. Is the government putting pressure on these manufactures to get these things out ASAP, and they are rushing the testing on it?! Who knows. IMO, these cars are making people “careless” drivers anyways. People feel like they don’t have to pay attention until they see a light or hear a beep warning.

[@mikeb6386]

I can't see that staying on very long. Lots of wind and rain.

[@RobMotive]

That’s what I’m thinking 🤔. Pretty flimsy solution IMO!

[@ampalxsportlb2061]

Just curious, did you get a actual letter from Toyota for the recall? I agree that the Toyota fix looks pretty cheesey! Thanks for keeping us informed.

[@RobMotive]

I haven’t yet...but I looked up my vin.

[@hal2228]

Did it work?

[@RobMotive]

No issues with mine👍

[@jakeschisler7525]

I'm surprised that Toyota doesn't make a cover that would snap over the whole thing. A seal where wires go in.

[@RobMotive]

I was thinking the same thing. Would make a lot more sense to me🤔

[@tacoma_jon]

The type of foam you used looks better than what they used. Still don’t understand how an aftermarket grill, especially one modeled after their very own pro grill and aftermarket lift, wheels and tires cause the issue they’re recalling it for. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@RobMotive]

Exactly!!👍

[@VoltageDropDiagnostics]

I’m a Toyota tech myself so Maybe i can shed some light. What is actually causing the failure is water running into vent holes into the sensor. The foam is meant to redirect the water. The grill and lift kid don’t actually make a difference as far as adding the foam. It is when the system needs calibrated. TOYOTA didn’t want to be responsible for calibrating a system that needs to know very specifics heights in order to be accurate (remember, we are dealing with something that can be life or death) when the vehicle is lifted. And Toyota also can’t ensure that the mounting area on the after market grill is built to the exact specs as the Toyota grill. In theory, the sensor could sit off a degree or two, and not see an accident about to occur. In the lawsuit happy world we live in, and remember all the frivolous lawsuits pertaining to unintended acceleration. TOYOTA is just covering their ass. They did come up with a new letter that says that we can now perform the recall, but the owner needs to sign off that we are required to shut off the PCS system.

[@RobMotive]

I’d agree with all of what you said. To be clear, the letter states that they will not perform the “fix” on trucks with aftermarket grilles...however, I’ve been told that some dealers are going ahead anyway.

[@VoltageDropDiagnostics]

RobMotive Toyota came out with a second revised letter advising us to have customers sign a waiver for our protection. Whether all the dealers are following this or not, I’m not sure of. But I promise, Toyota’s stance on it is having us have the customers sign a waiver.

[@RobMotive]

Hmm...is it possible for you to send me a copy?

[@kylebacher8074]

Ya took mine in for 10k oil change. All sudden sensor acting up and shuts off. Took in they tried to tell me the pro grill has different sensor. So put original grill back on and come back to recalibrate it or buy different sensor. It's a lease truck for now but looking to do buy out. Want to do more but dealer giving me Crap so I'll hold off. But lucky for me a pro taco came In for oil change. Lifted and every accessories on it. They check sensor and it was same part number as mine so they agree to order new sensor. Just pisses me off they try to pull anything to charge you and not warranty it out. Just because I order the pro grill and install it my self and not pay them to install it!

[@RobMotive]

That sucks! Good that one came in and you could prove your case!!👍

[@kylebacher8074]

Ya still waiting to get new one in they said they order today and might come in tomorrow or next week. They said take 1hr to recalibrate it. There a video on the tube guy called the main corporate number and talk to them. They made his dealer fix his as he has a custom grill. Told them to put factory grill on and if still doesn't work then put new one on. They proved it was bad sensor but still tried to not do or charge him $1k for new one with labor. Main corporate after he called said no charge do it now. Corporate also told him if you get error to hold the cruise button for 3 seconds and cruise will keep working. Well I tried it and it works so even if it still happens again I'll just live with the light on.

[@ALVIEDZANE]

1) That seems like a weak sauce fix on Toyota's part. But then, so was the design for keeping the sensor out of the weather. 2) Putting your stock grill back on to let Toyota do the fix is useless because of the fix they apply. Once your sensor is encapsulated in the neoprene sticky pad, you’d have to remove it all and repeat the process on your TRD Pro grill anyway. 3) The OEM grill has the sensor out in the weather a little more than the TRD Pro grill which has a little bit of a “roof” over the sensor.

[@RobMotive]

The only reason one might (I stress “might”) want to put the OEM grille back on is to have the dealership do the software update. You would of course have to redo the pad once the sensor is put back into the other grille👍

[@gearrunner]

A Hokie is a castrated turkey. Not sure why you kept bringing that up but it was a little disturbing that you seemed so infatuated with it. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RobMotive]

No..No!! You misunderstood..I said “hockey”!!😆

[@jakeschisler7525]

@@RobMotive you play hockey?

[@RobMotive]

Lol!! Only on the tv😁

[@shelbytaylor4634]

🤦‍♀️Ours has the "bandaid" fix already!!! And still has the issue lol 🤣 oh geezzz! So, what would you recommend we do if the bandaid isn't working lol this may sound nutty but would some sortof sealant around the edge help? We also have an aftermarket push bar as well. So, dealership probably won't be a very frugal option .... Smdh

[@RobMotive]

My first guess would be the push bar is being picked up by the sensor.

[@shelbytaylor4634]

@@RobMotive I'd agree, except the sensor only actually has gone off during one drive months ago. Our main problemo is literally just washing the car or heavy rains🤦‍♀️🤣 at that point nothing electronic on the interior ever shuts off. I looked above for the square weather stripping stuff you used and found no link (which makes sense since you don't recommend this). What we're thinking is maybe ours is shorter on the sides than the friend dealer photo you showed. Possible to just add more over the edges? I dunno. I'm at a loss. And, our rainy season is coming up soon 🤔😅🤷‍♀️ is there a way I can send a photo of it to you?

[@RobMotive]

It’s always going to go off in heavy rain or during a car wash if you’re spraying directly on it. However, it should function normally after the water/soap clears 🤔

[@mobgma]

lol Toyota trolling HARD

[@RobMotive]

Please expound 🤔

[@bokneeza]

I hate that they added that bs pcs on the tundra.

[@RobMotive]

You and me both!!!!😡

[@jacktrout5807]

Vaseline?

[@RobMotive]

Huh?

[@thepnwtest2124]

Hm I wonder if this applies to My Tacoma ?

[@RobMotive]

You should be able to look up your vin to see.👍

[@tommypearson9260]

Right now Nissan Frontier Pro 4x Owners are laughing at this ridiculous BS from Toyota that should of been something from day one lazy ass engineers

[@markum5094]

I’m betting that the Toyota exec who made the decision to go with this “fix” uses Saran Wrap instead of the real McCoy... if you know what I mean...🤣🤭🤭

[@RobMotive]

Lol!!!! The “fix” seems like a band aid to me!!! Can’t see it lasting!!!!!

[@markum5094]

RobMotive Exactly, and just like the Saran Wrap analogy... when it fails, all hell will break loose

[@RobMotive]

Lol!!!! This is true!!!!😲