3800 Supercharged Fieros are a BLAST (Here's WHY!)

[@Ef-Dog585]

Fiero was my favorite childhood car. Thanks for the great video.

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks for sharing that, much appreciated!

[@miker5233]

And how much would something like this cost to do

[@paulsypersma7165]

buffet vette hack,not childish,no tax.

[@BOOSTEDLASER]

@@Toys4Life whats the 1/4 et and mph?

[@Toys4Life]

@BOOSTEDLASER kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWWzlqasftt4f6s

[@paullake1114]

The reason GM never produced a 3800 Supercharged Fiero GT was Performance & Sales competition with the Corvette

[@keithrussell2307]

Last article I read the 89 fiero was going to have the 275 hp prototype dohc 3.4 in and it was a drivable one and was quicker and faster than the corvette in everything .

[@cameronvandygriff7048]

I really hate that for so long gm axed some awesome cars cause they were better than the vette instead of just making the vette more capable

[@jackmeoffer9334]

it would outrun the vette😂😂😂

[@Cantthinkofahandle117]

Yeah, like the Pontiac Banshee. When I found out about it, I added one to my dream car list. I'd get a C3 Corvette and swap in a Pontiac 455 and modify the body and tail lights to look like the Banshee. I wouldn't do the pop up headlights though. I've always hated that. ​@@cameronvandygriff7048

[@RedBud315]

Had Chevy never had that rule Pontiac definitely would have had the best performing cars. When the Corvette first came out it was cheap enough to be accessible to the common working man and then it become the retired mans mid life crisis vehicle that not as many could afford. GM should have let the middle class man continue to have his fun with other models.

[@tima6549]

a little known fact: Right before GM pulled the plug on the Fiero, the plan was to shoehorn the Grand National 3.8 Turbo V6 into the little sports car. So this vid gives an idea, (though this one is supercharged and hopped up a bit), of what the Fiero could have been had it survived a little longer. Typical GM. They finally build something decent and axe it.

[@Toys4Life]

What could have been...

[@jameslaidler2152]

Sorry to be that guy, but the 1990 prototype used a twin cam V6.

[@Toys4Life]

@jameslaidler2152 YES!Along with a quad four engine to replace the 2.5 and even a 3.8 l Buick turbo V6 was seen at least once in a test mule.

[@jameslaidler2152]

@@Toys4Life What twin cam V6 engines did GM have at the time? Were they any good?

[@Toys4Life]

@jameslaidler2152 They were kind of rare, I'm sure they were powerful compared to the 2.8 but I have no idea what their long-term reliability / durability was.

[@haredr6511]

This brings back memories. I had a friend in high school that had a Fiero with a heavily modified GM 5.0 V8 (Fiero was just out of production then). That thing was wicked. There was absolutely NOTHING it couldn’t take down. Exotics couldn’t even touch it.

[@Toys4Life]

That's awesome!

[@LibsareTRASH]

What GM engine was a 5.0 ?

[@haredr6511]

@@LibsareTRASH Camaros and Firebirds back in the day had a 5.0. If I remember correctly, it was what the 3800 V6 was later based upon. GM also had a 5.0 on the Cadillac Broughams of the ‘80’s. I believe my buddy’s donor car was an IROC Camaro.

[@LibsareTRASH]

@@haredr6511 oh you're talking about the old small block 305. I thought it was like a 5.7

[@haredr6511]

@@LibsareTRASH I think the L98 or LT1 5.7 replaced the 5.0. Not the most amazing motor, but with a little work and dropped into a Fiero, it was unbelievable.

[@123antknee]

The Fiero's Shape is ICONIC!!! I had a Buick Lesabre T-Type and wanted to Supercharge it so bad. I loved the forward opening of the hood. The 3800 V-6 was an AWESOME Engine!!!!

[@Toys4Life]

Like most cars that I like, I like most of the views of the hero but there are a couple that I would perhaps tweak if I had any design aesthetic ability in me.

[@Legends_of_HardRock_HeavyMetal]

Always loved the Fiero. They were a perfect example of Pontiac's level of innovation now 40 years ago! A truly unique and iconic sports compact. It's great to see the enthusiasm is still there.

[@CarputingYT]

2 weeks until my 3800 is done!!!! 2 year wait! This channel has been the only thing keeping me sane while I wait

[@Toys4Life]

Appreciate that, glad I'm motivating somebody & the truth is, years ago - there's a video out there that motivated me to do my 3800 super charge and I haven't regretted it for one second!

[@Toys4Life]

Did you get your 3800 back??

[@JustinOtterholt]

This video speaks the truth, I have an '88 fiero with this swap, and it surprises a lot of people at the stoplights. I also love the looks I get when I blip the throttle as I pass someone just enough for them to hear the loud whine.

[@Rampant_Colt]

Do you have any engine mods?

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

Hey how did you do the engine harness and ecm?

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you sir!

[@Tintguy1985]

Im so pumped you two pulled off the swap. Enjoy your build 😉

[@Todd66]

Putting that 3800 in a Formula was a great choice. I have owned 2 Fiero’s in my life…a black 84 4spd and a 2 white 85 5 spd. I loved those cars and they were stock. I cold not imagine a 3800 with some pulleys and exhaust…. I love it!

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you, find out who's got one in your area and see if they'll take you for a spin. It really is quite the experience. I've owned heroes for 30 years and my first one had the 96 horsepower engine,!

[@aaronvector4750]

The C8 weighs 3600lbs, not 3300lbs. otherwise than that, this video is perfect! It's rare to find a video on youtube that is so accurate and insightful, you've got yourself a follower!

[@Toys4Life]

Appreciate the kind words and good catch on the C8 weight - clearly I blew that ☹️.

[@grantyentis5507]

I really wanted one of these when they were popular but somehow never owned one but seeing your video gave me that old special feeling I used to get whenever I saw one.

[@Toys4Life]

That's awesome, thanks for the comment!

[@thomasdearing7718]

I saw one with a 383 stroker v8 it was vicious

[@Thadude701]

@@thomasdearing7718 Miata with a stroker 350

[@CarputingYT]

Hell yeah some more 3800 Fiero content! Make all the videos on this car that you want. Have a great day!

[@Toys4Life]

Will do!!

[@ramonalvarez8559]

Great video! Imagine a 3800 SC racing against exotic such as Ferrari, McLaren, Lamborghini, even Porsche and cost at a fraction of the cost from the four. I noticed this had a automatic transmission, which is great. However I've seen better days with even a 5 speed manual gearbox. Not only it's fun to drive with a 3800 SC V6 hooked up but this will unleashed pure power. Overall I love that Fiero SC, one of a kind.

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it!

[@godchi1dvonsteuben770]

You can build an 10 second Fiero, for between $8k, and $10k, but if you don't include upgraded brakes, and suspension, those exotics will eat it. KZbin search "Hoonigan Vs. the World, finale" 2000 hp mustang... 10 part series, and the final car he has to beat? You guessed it, a Fiero... for all the reasons this guys talking about. Except one thing. The whole "torque monster" thing? Has nothing to do with it being a Fiero, or a 3800 series engine. That's all in the tuning. You could build the exact same car as this guy has built, and have a higher horsepower number than your torque number. That all depends on how the the engine is tuned, nothing to do with what type of car it is, and very little to do with the engine.

[@godchi1dvonsteuben770]

Oh, and even though there are some model Lambos and Ferraris that a worked Fiero CAN compete with. No Fiero on the planet can keep up with McLarens slowest car... and this is coming from someone who HATES McLarens, I just happen to know all of these cars performance stats, and I'm being realistic... and it does happen, Fieros rolling up on these exotics. You know what you'd like? KZbin search "Hoonigan Vs the World Finale" ... it's a 2000 hp Mustang, Vs an 8 second Fiero. You'll like it...

[@MichaelKirbyMusic86]

I've got a supercharged 3.8 2000 GTP grand prix, always wanted to drop my 3.8 in a fiero, why I'm here watching lol Amazing engines

[@jw11432]

About 20 years ago, I had an 87 Fiero GT. I loved that car. It was the stock 2.8 but had a 5 speed too.

[@captainmorgan5449]

I had the stock 5 speed 87 GT also.... Burgundy with the Silver lower. It was sweet. A girl ran a light and hit it right before I was going to put it in storage for the winter.

[@larrywhittemore9362]

I had a 3800SC fiero, an 88gt, I put a small pulley on the series 2, motor and headers and it really came alive. I used the Buick trans that came with it. It was a great well balanced car. It was also I believe the first Legal engine swap done in California!! I now have another 88 gt with a 2006 Pontiac LS-4 and trans in it! It is also legal in California, passing all smog standards. It was the first LS4 Fiero ever done..in 2006. I drive the car regularly and it makes the cool Rump-rump noises I like... I never get gas and an old guy asks me what is in it, because they know it sounds different. All work on both were done by West Coast Fiero in Tehachapi, California. They are the only Fiero shop left..give Chris West a call..

[@Toys4Life]

I think I bought some parts from them once!

[@jefferystillwell2121]

I owned an 86 GT that was converted by ACE that got it's BAR certification in January of 1998. That was the first legal L67 swap in California as far as I've been able to tell. Was yours earlier?

[@dadgarage7966]

Just a few minutes in, that instrument cluster looks good grafted to the dash.

[@Friedbrain11]

I've driven a Buick with a blower 3.8L v6 and was hooked on them ever since. Would love to build one of these myself as I am a fan of the Fiero.

[@Toys4Life]

Start planning!

[@johnglad5]

Are you talking Grand National? Never rode in one but must have been sweet. A full size sedan with dragstrip like performance.

[@thomasford4235]

I've had 7 Fiero's. Two brand new ones. Now I have none and wish I had one so bad. They were my cars working two jobs and going to college. I had two at once. Brand new 88 Formula and a used 88 GT. First was an 84 SE. Your car is damn Awesome!!! I'd like to swap supercharged 3800 to a Formula! Its too bad they gave up on them. I read where the head guys told Pontiac they didn't want another two seater competing with the Corvette. I still love the Fiero's! They bring back so many memories!

[@byronn.2885]

Those are often overlooked motors by those who have never been in a car with one. I drove one of the first gen Pontiac Grand Prix GTP with a pulley, air intake and chip. It still had stock exhaust and no cam and that thing was shockingly fast. Putting that into the super light Fiero would be a wild ride.

[@Toys4Life]

Agreed, shame that they stopped making it why not just improve it by making the same motor out of aluminum.

[@playwithgarvin]

​@Toys4Life God! This engine with a aluminum version would have been a brutal engine, with a good weight.

[@TheMrmmkkpro]

I almost bought a new Fiero in 1984. All I could find was 4 cyl automatic , a no go. As a Pontiac fan from the late 60s. I still love the Fiero , cool ass little car. 1973 Firebird 1972 455HO 1990 ZR-1 Corvette , still room for a Fiero. You have a bad ass ride , well done.

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you, sir!

[@xTheRenegade666x]

I have owned 5 different Fieros and this video makes me want #6 so badly... :)

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you!

[@brandonbentley5453]

My mom.bought a red fiero formula in 1988...that thing was a spaceship back then! Lots of companies started butting v8s and v12s in them and body kits. Some well done body kit v12 fieros had numbers on par with "real" super cars. One outfit back in the day was Exotic Illusions out of New Jerset...the original owner was Italian and had worked for Lamborghini back in the 70s and reproduced actual Lamborghini bodies for fieros and got in trouble. They put massive v8 and v12 engines in them and built out the original framework...artists. These cars were no joke.

[@Toys4Life]

Sweet!

[@technoir2584]

Back in 1997 I was 17, I seen a red Fiero for sale on my way to work. I did not have a car yet and rode a bicycle 12 miles round trip. I worked at a local grocery store in southern Utah and made like 7-8 bucks an hour. I wanted that Fiero, and I wanted it bad. The seller had it parked in the lot of the air conditioning repair shop he owned, and he only wanted $3200 for it. The car was in good condition, but it needed tires and a few other things to pass the state inspection I was told. I worked as much as I could and picked up hours any chance I could at work. I would stop and look at the car every time I rode to work to see that it had not sold yet and to motivate myself. After about 3 and a half months, the day came when I got the paycheck I needed to get the car. There was a bank in the grocery store I worked in. I cashed the check and quickly rode towards home and was excited to see the beautiful red Fiero shinning in the hot desert sun as I went by the A/C shop. I had to get the rest of the cash I had saved. I rode back to the A/C shop and the car was gone. I went inside to talk to the seller, and he said it had sold about ten minutes before I had arrived. I was so sad. All that hard work. I had just seen the car on my way home. I told myself that it just wasn't meant to be. I ended up buying a 87 Nissan Pulsar with most of the money I saved, and the transmission went bad after only 2 months. Isn't life great.

[@Toys4Life]

Sorry 😔 that happened!

[@nathaniellayton9549]

My mom bought a 2m4 in 1984 when it first came out. I loved driving that car.

[@drtidrow]

Honestly, I'm leaning towards a LSJ Ecotec as a transplant into my '88 Formula - quite a bit lighter being a aluminum-block I4 vs. a cast-iron V6, and they are available with 5- and 6-speed manual transaxles. Doesn't take too much to get them into the high-200hp/low-300hp range, and gives a better weight balance for an autocross car.

[@Toys4Life]

Definitely a nice option, anything is way better than the stock for your engines!

[@justinm1882]

love these little cars its what I learned on how to drive stick. I even seen alot of 6.0 gto swaps in them last year lol I couldnt stop smiling.

[@jamesshepard4743]

My buddy had a badass Fiero in high school , that caught fire , when we were driving on the freeway. We build excitement, Pontiac !!!

[@tyson9419]

That’s why they were discontinued. I’m suprused by all these Pontiac fanboys in the comments.

[@CantonSecurity]

Awesome video! I remember just after graduating high school I used to have a neighbor the same age that had a beautiful maroon Fiero and me with me in my modified Saab 9-3 convertible would tear around town… those were the days, thanks for the reminiscing 😊

[@AprehamLincoln]

Honestly, if I had any money this is exactly what I'd do. My old man passed earlier this year and I was left with his 86 SE that had been sitting for the last 8 or 9 years. I'd love to put the thing on the road and throw the SC in there but it'll just be way too much money for all the work it needs

[@blaineloustaunau2338]

I had a 1986 2M6 SE blew up the original motor going from Sacramento to Reno after work on a Friday. Rebuilt a donor motor bored it .20 over installed a 3/4 race cam and had some work done on the heads increased the size of the injectors and beefed up the 5 speed manual gear box and clutch. It dyno'd at 380 HP. This was back in 91.

[@Toys4Life]

Sounds like a fun project but to be honest, I I'm struggling to imagine a 2.8 putting out 380 crank horsepower without a significant amount of boost.

[@blaineloustaunau2338]

@@Toys4Life combination of cam head intake and exhaust and the performance chip I added. I forgot to mention the chip in my previous post.

[@Halliday7895]

Reminds me of my high school 93 thunderbird super coupe supercharged intercooled 3.8 v6 . great car.

[@DavidEssex-fe6mx]

Ford? Hahahaha

[@RedBud315]

@@DavidEssex-fe6mx To be fair I knew someone who had one and gave me a ride to 150 MPH and I was shocked at how much torque that car had. I don't even think it redlined much higher than 5K if that.

[@justinreed7093]

got one for sale needs tlc however in excellent shape

[@DavidEssex-fe6mx]

@@justinreed7093 No thanks, FORD sucks!

[@arcanewyrm6295]

​@DavidEssex-fe6mx You've clearly never ridden in or driven a Super Coupe, Turbo Coupe, SVT Lightning, SVT Cobra, or Taurus SHO.

[@Scott.Kristiansen]

In 1985 I was working at taco bell. A super cool girl I worked with owned a white 84. She parked and ran to her friends house for a few minutes. I was in the passenger seat and decided to start it. It was a manual and it of course jerked forward. At that time I didn't even know how to drive stick. I told myself from that point I was going to get one, one way or another. And I did. . . Fantastic Video sir.

[@Toys4Life]

Very cool!

[@brycejames2127]

With my fiero I just supercharged the original 2.8 L v6 along with some other mods and it works great! 👍 nice car you have there, great video .

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you sir, I enjoyed my 2.8's for many years, but in all honesty I've seen a lot of them spin rod bearings and I'm not exactly sure why they do but they do.

[@chrishuber8930]

@@Toys4Life the block is weak.

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

@@Toys4Life mine did that in high-school, but hey how did you get the engine wiring harness and ecm for the 3.8 sc? I've been wanting to do the swap but I don't know how to get a stand alone ecm or make a wiring harness

[@keithp115]

Thank you for taking the time to reply to everyone's comment, rather than an automated "Like". It says a lot about your character sir!

[@Toys4Life]

I do my best, but I must admit sometimes I get behind. I do try to catch up and I very much appreciate your comment!

[@pinkysgarage4517]

Holy crap, how awesome. LOVED this video. Such a great idea and cool Hot Rod!

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks so much!

[@3613jeremy]

I loved my 84 fiero it was my first car and for a light low car it performed great in the snow I was extremely surprised

[@arcanewyrm6295]

Just like the originated Beetle did pretty good in snow, because all the weight of the engine and transmission was over the drive wheels. My little brother had a couple of 'em when he was younger, and snow was not much of a problem for him either.

[@ElationProductions]

I totally agree that a super charged 3800 is the way to go. It's just sitting at a perfect balance point between power, handling, and durability. It's not a one trick pony you'll only enjoy at the drag strip.

[@thomaskrutulis2289]

I had a 2000 gtp coupe back then and it was a fun car. Especially with a pulley. There was no real support for tuning back then like there is today but I always loved that engine.

[@Toys4Life]

Excellent engine indeed

[@mikewest5529]

Awesome car man!! Loved em when I was a young boy! That black and grey 2 tone is still the winner!! That white looks sharp too!! Just put crushing MR2 dreams!!

[@Toys4Life]

Crushing MR2 dreams, love it!

[@taquitopicante5863]

Yeah, buddy! Got one. '86SE. The 3800SC swap is about 80% done. Needs exhaust plumbed. Can't wait for that first fire up. It's gonna be an OH BABY moment for sure!

[@Toys4Life]

Grinectony.

[@turboking9238]

I think I'm going to keep my Fiero stock, I want to preserve it's history and showcase the Iron Duke. Not too many of them are around anymore.

[@Toys4Life]

100% okay with that, whatever it is about the f i e r o that makes you happy totally works for me!

[@CanadaBob11]

Not many left because of the faulty pushrods from factory. Those Dukes are ticking time bombs. That us the only fiero to do it to. I'd be listening to that thing with a stethoscope every 500 km and have ample fire insurance.

[@turboking9238]

@@CanadaBob11 I don't really know anything about the pushrod problem, but it was prone to fires due to a smaller oil pan, which honestly wasn't that big of a deal if you just kept up regular maintenance. Luckily my Fiero was a recall, it has a much bigger oil pan now.

[@elbassaraghii5744]

That supercharger is legendary ive seen them put it on everything from new yorkers to dsms they got more go then some people know

[@lonmiller5265]

When you had the transmission rebuilt did the builder add a limited slip differential to the rebuild? If so who sells them?

[@Toys4Life]

He did not. The funny thing is, ninety-nine percent of the time as long as you're not on water or something really slippery, both Wheels will lay down rubber. I might add a teeny bit of weight to the passenger side because if things are a little slippery, that wheel will spin by itself oh, but it is rare.

[@joshuadavis6094]

I've been swapping my L67 supercharged 3800 around to different vehicles for about 10 years... Started in the GTP then moved to a 97 lumina for almost 8 years till the suspension rotted out and it was gonna be between a fiero or what I ended up putting it in... A 99 Monte Carlo... Only reason I didn't do the fiero was I'm 6'4 and I've ridden in them before....I don't drive a fiero so much as wear it lol

[@armandosalamanca4347]

i wish i can find one preinstalled, automatic in the midwest

[@Toys4Life]

Problem is it is a ton of work - unless someone is just wanting to unload theirs - it would cost close to 10k or so to replicate...

[@chrishenry571]

I drove a SC 3800 Buick Regal, and even with the worst transmission in the world, you could tell that engine had great potential. Plop it in a mid engine configuration, and yes, please!

[@joeottsoulbikes415]

I have seriously been thinking about doing this. Ideally I feel like I want to get an 87 GT formula or to M6. I just like the body style better than the last year in 88 when they changed it all up. I'm curious which model or which year of 3800 out of which car is the best one to choose. I'm just not sure which Pontiac car was but I know there was a car out there with a 3800 not only have the supercharger on it but had a water-to-air intercooler underneath the supercharger and put up more horsepower than any other version of the 3800. Extinct that was either Grand Prix or a Bonneville sccc. I'm also wondering if there any cars that suspension and brakes can be pulled from for Better handling?

[@12yearssober]

Buy one already done. It would cost you twice as much to do yourself.

[@Toys4Life]

As long as it is a good quality build I fully agree!

[@ryanupchurch9683]

I always dreamed and priced out a fire gt. Chopped roof with a 383 and 2 stages of n20. I wanted to do 2nd gear wheelies from a roll and hang with busas. Instead I got a twinturbo z32. I think it worked out. I’m still alive lol

[@RearEngineShop]

I love my 3800 supercharged swapped Fiero! I save myself a trip to the chiropractor too frequently with my 3800, I think I’m going to send my manual trans to the scrap pile eventually. 😂

[@Toys4Life]

What manual are your running?

[@RearEngineShop]

@@Toys4Life the stock 84 4:10 4 speed right now. It’s lasted 3000 miles so far.

[@BazyG]

I had my Fiero GT back in 1991 , still remember , great car for that time , now i have two 1992 SSEi Bonnevile , 1999 Cadillac STS Seville (yes with Northstar, rebuild by Northstar Performance studs) 1999 Dodge Grand Caravan Lxi , 1995 Mercedes S420 Coupe and 2007 Phaeton W12 , old car is best , i thinking about this rebuild abouth 2015 , i must do this ! Great video , thank you !

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks for taking the time to comment, good luck with taking on a project hopefully!

[@christopherhinkel8274]

What is its performance at the dragstrip and 0-60 times? I've considered this combination for a Fiero build as it looks straightforward to complete. Thanks.

[@Toys4Life]

3.7 0-60 on the street with regular tires. 11.8 @114mph all day long at the track. Thanks!!

[@Rampant_Colt]

@@Toys4Life Is that 11.8 on E85?

[@Toys4Life]

@@Rampant_Colt yes, mild cam 85 actually usually about e70 is what's available, and no intercooler.

[@jeremyboyle5695]

11.8 sounds pretty spicy! What's the 60' time?

[@Toys4Life]

@jeremy boyle 3.7 0 to 60 mph, 60 ft times are about 1.7 seconds at the drag strip.

[@arjaycalanno]

Wheels look absolutely perfect on this car. One sweet, sweet ride bro.

[@Toys4Life]

Appreciate that sir!

[@petercarey6883]

Well, I'm kind'a sitting here wondering what to say. I guess it boils down to something plain and simple. Your Fiero is one cool ride!👍 I think I like it maybe even more than my Yugo.😉 Great upload! Save the Wave👋

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks for the comment. Do (or did) you really have a Yugo? I have not seen one of those in about 20 years in MN.

[@gtaashwagandhaman7551]

@@Toys4Life Actually it looks like an insulting Joke!! what this means is He Really Just Doesn't like the car Really!!!😂👀 AKA HATER

[@Toys4Life]

Actually I know him, I think he's being sincere.

[@gtaashwagandhaman7551]

@@Toys4Life LOL CHILL I Was Joking😂😅

[@Toys4Life]

No worries, it does seem a little bit awkwardly written. Lol

[@paratrooperlane7022]

I came home on leave and find a Fiero sitting in the driveway..............I was fascinated by this car.

[@ColtenHood]

Got my first fiero! 87 GT. Needs a lot of work to get it in decent driving condition. Restoring the suspension now. It has tapping under load which I've gathered is bad gasket or cracked manifold. Wondering if I should even fix it since I know I'll be doing the swap at some point. Thoughts?

[@Toys4Life]

Front 2.8 v-6 exhaust manifolds are known for two things. Cracks & broken studs when trying to remove and repair the ex manifold. If that is your issue, I would leave it for sure as is if you are going to swap the engine anyway.

[@hdtripp6218]

Had one at 16(1984 model my dad bought new and I got it 3 years later)....I'm 6'3" and it was the most comfortable car, my legs could stretch out

[@Toys4Life]

Agreed at 6' 1" here.

[@titonothere6179]

I’m 5’4 can’t wait! I’m Picking mine up tomorrow

[@Toys4Life]

Sweet!

[@fastbladeproductions7961]

OMG... I had a 1986 2.8 SE that had the wing and ground effects.... I had it tuned etc etc... loved that car!!!!!!! .... fast for what it was...

[@Toys4Life]

Sweet!

[@gtaashwagandhaman7551]

IT RIPS That is the word I love using... RIPPING Through those GEARS. Awesome Video

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you sir!

[@abra_kadabra805]

I just bought me one of these, dropped it down to 2nd, hammered it! Saved myself a trip to the chiropractor. 💪💯

[@Toys4Life]

Oh hell yes!

[@Tealmoney8571]

I recently saw a Fiero with an LS4 out of an ss Impala. That thing was crammed in that little car!

[@thecman26]

Back in the day I got to drive a buddies formula. Even with the "weak" V6 and stick it was soooo much fun to drive in the twisties! Just imagine a Fiero with moar powah? Hell yeah!

[@Toys4Life]

I agree, and back in the 80's most other cars didn't have very much horsepower so we had nothing really to compare it to!

[@thecman26]

@@Toys4Life it was like a rocket go kart that handled really good! We didn't need 500hp back then!

[@Toys4Life]

That is totally true, but once you've been in a car with a ton of horsepower, well, you want a lot of horsepower.

[@sconniejohn]

That's a fun car man. And fun to see hudson getting some attention in the video. I'vealways had a soft spot for sleepers, keep em coming!

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you sir, much appreciated!

[@geraldscott4302]

I bought a brand new Fiero 2M4 (2.5L "Iron Duke" and a 5 speed) in 1986. Base model, only options were alloy wheels and a luggage rack on the rear deck. I kept it completely stock, and enjoyed the hell out of it for 11 years, when I finally needed a car with a back seat. I wound up replacing it with a 1984 2 door Caprice Classic. I put some mid '70s Corvette rally wheels and RWL 225/70-15 tires on it, along with a cowl induction hood and a nice sounding exhaust system. Never touched the engine. I have had a number of drag race cars, but they didn't work well on the street. I see no reason for more power in a strictly street car.

[@Toys4Life]

To each their own, if I had a hardcore commute or did a lot of driving I might actually get a Prius. Don't laugh, the newest generation of Prius actually looks a little bit cool.

[@Gengargamer2_]

These engines are pretty good when given a bit of boost, over here in Australia we made an upgraded version of the 3800 called the 3.8 Ecotec that came with those superchargers on them factory in our commodores in a couple of trim levels (known as the L67 engine), however as far as I’m aware they only came with the 4 speed slush box auto in those trims, which bogged them down quite a lot, but some people swapped them over to manual they have quite a bit of go for a 6.

[@jeremypilot1015]

That's the Fiero GM should have built. Buddy of mine had one in the 90s we used to rip donuts in place the front wheel would never leave its pivot point. Loads of fun.

[@kennethkuehl4270]

Had an 88 Fiero with the 3800 supercharged V6. Cold air intake, flowmaster muffler ( no catalytic converter) and the ECM was reprogrammed by Sinister Performance. Probably close to 300 hp. Was like a go cart on steroids.

[@Toys4Life]

Ryan at sinister! 😁

[@carolriley9392]

i am the proud owner of a Fiero se. and i dream about doing everything you did to your car! thanks again!!

[@derricbryant1145]

The GT back side window looks sportier just saying unless you were going for the sleeper look then bland will do

[@Toys4Life]

Yep, in my experience about 60% prefer the fastback. I think it looks like a Honda CRX. To each their own, they're both mechanically the same! images.app.goo.gl/BeYxQFiFrSZ51r7k6

[@DanielRunions]

I had a 86 Fiero GT and i did a cadi 4.6 v8 swap in mine! i miss that thing bad!

[@dj_paultuk7052]

Makes me miss my 85 GT Notchie manual. Mine was superchipped, better manifolds and exhaust. Maybe 150bhp. But it was enough in that little car.

[@njmako4587]

I had a heavy modded 3800 II GTP, car was awesome, great video

[@Toys4Life]

Nice! This one runs 11.80 at 114 mph - but I want to go deeper into the 11's while not blowing up the tranny. Thinking of porting my G3M90 and blocking the coolant ports in the manifold to SC. Thoughts?

[@njmako4587]

@@Toys4Life yep for sure, I had the port and polish, went with a PLOG instead of headers 3’ DP tune etc. Definitely port the M90

[@billybowbob2071]

Seen a red 88 notchie on the road today when i was driving it. Powered by a caddy 4.9. Seen a burgandy 87 GT with a 3800sc when i pulled my red 88 into my driveway.

[@Toys4Life]

I hardly ever see fiero's around here except for my own... 😆

[@daniellin9490]

Enjoy your videos and all the upgrades...Fiero was my first car back to 1985 and now have 4 Fiero, .. they're al my projected cars but pending...it's about time to restore them only if you are willing to swamp 4 engines for my project first...

[@Toys4Life]

Yeah, it has to be a labor of love to swap those engines. It's fun but I would probably make about $5 an hour if I had to charge people.

[@notsogrand2837]

The M90 whine is godly, I love the 3800s in general. They're bulletproof and yes, an absolute torque monster

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks man!

[@notsogrand2837]

@@Toys4Life Anytime, hopefully some day I'll finally get to build a street Grand Prix. I need a new body for mine first though lol.

[@RedBud315]

Just when Pontiac worked out the bugs from the original Fiero and had the last year GT model that was the best one to date they killed it. I have a feeling sales would have started getting better after the car got better. I think you need a trunk rack loaded with bricks on this one to keep make the tires hook up better, lol. P.S. Thanks for showing us what the car can do. The last video I saw with a V-8 Fiero that guy drove it around about the speed of a shopping cart and when people commented on them wanting to see him push it the guy took the comments personally. My comment was that I watch Jay Leno's Garage because he does show what all these cars can do even with the nervous owner sitting next to him, lol.

[@playwithgarvin]

I am doing this project, Pontiac fiero 3800/F40 with a turbo, will be a cool mid engine car twincharged and 6 speed!🤩

[@shadymaint1]

I got to drive a Fiero GT with a Cadillac Northstar swap. Stupid fun. I bet a supercharged 3.8 would be a blast to drive and probably be a little more streatable than a Northstar.

[@jimdent351]

I followed a gen.2 Fiero down the road last year trying to figure out what it was . I honestly thought it was a brand new car because it looked quite modern, but what had me puzzled was the Pontiac badge. I was thinking for at least a good minute that GM must have revived the Pontiac name and I'd never heard about it. It took a while but then I realized it was a Fiero that looked to be in brand new condition.

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

I test drove a v6 fiero when they 1st arrived at the local dealer. It of course wasn't awe inspiring, I was expecting more for some reason. Nice car, aside from not enough power.

[@Toys4Life]

I had a slow car in the late 80's wo when I first got a v6 fiero I thought it was kind of zippy. Perception is a weird thing.

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

@@Toys4Life I was probably comparing the Fiero to my 69 Chevelle.

[@neilduncan8657]

I have owned 4 3800 v6's over the year. I highly recommend this engine to anybody. My son owns a low mile 92 (OLDS L27) he daily's to work. I can only agree with the powerful engine into a light weight body swap Nice Fiero! my toy is a 1984 Datsun 200sx with a mildly built ford v8.....

[@Toys4Life]

I would love to drive it, the things sounds fun

[@nunyabeeswax3061]

I've owned a fiero almost my whole driving life. Two gts and one 85se .last year had an accident in the se.guy ran the stop and it was totaled. So fieroless for the first time.plan on getting another this fall either with the supercharged 3.8 or a v8.im tired of the 2.8! Me and my girlfriend currently both have 95 vettes.hers is a coupe mines a convertible.looking at your c5 and kind of thinking to upgrade.maybe even z06.love your taste in cars.you got a new subscriber!

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you , you know the Fiero is really the corvette C8 Version 1 - right? The current C8's are Version 2's. That may seem silly but you KNOW gm learned some darn good lessons from the Fiero program - both good and bad. I think they took the good and made sure they didn't repeat the bad.

[@nunyabeeswax3061]

@@Toys4Life yea and maybe after 5 to 7 years I'll be able to afford one! Lol!

[@Toys4Life]

@@nunyabeeswax3061 yeah I'm with you, if they can be had in a few years for 40k, I might be in!

[@eliascorteslopez1094]

I used to own a black one as a teenager. Mine was also a one tire fryer but fun.

[@Toys4Life]

They typically spin both tires though, at least they sure as hell do with the 3800 supercharged in the car.

[@AnonyMous-gv9nz]

I love the 3800. I think it's a great really great engine Buicks Oldsmobiles etc but the superchargers is one of my favorites 😊 really awesome car dude

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you!!

[@bigjoewebb]

I had an 02 GTP 40th anniversary edition coupe with a 3.4 pully with supporting mods and it was quick, but this fiero is crazy 🔥 🔥!!!!!

[@nathandube1685]

Its great you have why you should 3800sc swap your car but there are like no how to videos out there, could you by chance make one of those for us who want to build one?

[@Toys4Life]

If I do another supercharged 3800 Fiero, I'll make a video of the process.

[@Toys4Life]

There's a three-part series on my channel though that talks a lot about what you need for parts and some tips.

[@armandosalamanca4347]

ye i wish i could do this myself, or at least have an idea. i don’t know shit about cars, but i am great with computers. i’m still 50/50 on writhed i want to tackle this project

[@Sero12245]

This gives me ideas for another 3.8l v6, but it's overhead cam and has valve lift on the intake cam.

[@Stoshua.81]

The 3.8 was about bullet proof what an awesome setup for a fiero

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed!

[@TheBBodyBuilder]

Neat little toy…it’s really to bad GM did not build them with the supercharged 3800. I’d love an 87 GT with that power plant. Thanks for sharing your Fiero…great video…now I’m searching the old inter webs looking for one :)

[@Toys4Life]

There are a lot of fun and totally different than other cars oh, so you can have more than one! Thank you for taking the time to comment!

[@drtidrow]

The '90 Fiero GT was going to come with a 220hp 3.4l TDC V6, but GM killed it before it got past the prototype stage. :-(

[@Toys4Life]

That might have saved the Corvette by killing the high performance Fiero...

[@biffbastion301]

These little cars are fun to put bigger engines in. I did my first ever swap in a 77 Spitfire about 21 years ago and used a 4.3 V6. I just sold the V8 Miata that I built last year. They always make for a good time, but they all run into the same issue......lack of tire width. :( Nowadays you can build a cheap turbo LS and get 700hp no problem. My current budget swap is in fact that in a New Edge Mustang. Can run plenty of tire on those cars and get them down to about 3000lbs.

[@Toys4Life]

Building stuff is what gets me excited too!

[@biffbastion301]

@@Toys4Life Completely agree! I had a C6 and just switched to a GT500. Fast cars are fun to drive, but you feel like you don't want to do anything to them. The projects are where the fun is as it makes them unique and more personable.

[@hondaman6918]

Love your videos! My 86 Se Notchie is stockish… and mint. 3800 when my 2m6 dies, but it’s still running well. Will have to wait.

[@Toys4Life]

Oh man, now it will probably go 250k!

[@demetriusrayden-erisjohnso2279]

The motor simply flows well and gets more efficient the more compressed air is blown through it. headers and intake were designed very well... Maybe I'll put one in my Mazda R X eight to increase the liability lol 600 horsepower in a Mazda RX8 I think would be fun!!!

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed 👍

[@demetriusrayden-erisjohnso2279]

Youve got that fiero huh? ... Turbo 3800 in that fiero would be nice... Considering another one myself but I want a GT this time.

[@jaywhittemore5878]

It was awesome watching the Fiero bust the Hellcat & Caddy

[@Gdesign959]

I wonder if the LS4 would fit since it was also done in the W-body. This car is awesome.

[@w41duvernay]

Yes it will...

[@Toys4Life]

Absolutely agree but there's really no point because we're limited by how much horsepower transmissions will handle in the 3800 can take care of that.

[@Gdesign959]

@@Toys4Life Good point. I smoked my transmission with a stock LS4.

[@mrfiero1451]

Working out the kinks on my l67 Fiero swap. Hopefully have it running in a week.

[@thomasouellette8870]

Cheap combo for really a bit of muscle. Those motors can add up to some headaches if SC needs a rebuild, head gaskets and intake gaskets can wreak havoc on your budget.

[@Toys4Life]

I've had a spare supercharger that I picked up 7 years ago sitting on my shelf ready to go. I've reached the bearings a couple of times and cleaned this supercharger there's a whole series on it on my channel actually and it seems to be purring like a kitten producing 13 lb of boost!

[@BobSchmidt]

The last time I saw one out on the road was a few weeks ago when I took mine out for the last drive of the season.

[@Toys4Life]

Love it!

[@exibuchay1695]

231ci motors are awesome.. what a great engine

[@chopdogrulz1337]

It’s like a C8 ‘vette for the average guy!!! I love it! 👌

[@Toys4Life]

C7.5 perhaps?

[@alltheboost5363]

I've never looked at cars with calculated pounds per horsepower... my old Datsun is 5.3 lb per horsepower. Not very many stock cars can keep up with it. every now and then I find a 650 or 700 CC bike that I can mess with. the look they give me is always priceless.

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed.

[@chrispoleski8303]

My first car was a 1988 Pontiac fiero formula 5-speed manual gray interior has everything but leather seats even with the car stock I was able to drift the car sideways all the way up the road in second gear at 40 mph very predictable car end in the same night my dad bought a 1988 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 5 speed with digital dash same thing every option except for leather seats two awesome cars