WOW TCR! That takes me back. I had a set when I was a kid. Unlike Scaletric you could actually change lanes to overtake. Loved that set right up until my older brother took of the covers and souped up the engines (without my permision) to make them go faster. They weren't long for this world after that.
@davidkennedy10775 жыл бұрын
I had TCR, lucky for me we had a local shop that sold spares and new cars (i even later bought a Trans Am to go with my racing cars)I loved that set, and so did the group Sleaford Mods who even did a song called TCR a few years back, check it out on KZbin. The guys are even playing with a TCR set in the video (that looks like the one I had)
@heamees48225 жыл бұрын
2 seconds around such short circuit is absolutely massive difference. Also i still dont get the appeal of the semi-automatics in hot hatches
@KXP705 жыл бұрын
I guess it comes down to it just being easier to live with for most people. I used to hate it when I started driving a dsg because I couldn't gel with it and get it to behave how I wanted it to in drive or sport. But with an adjustment period and using the manual mode when appropriate, I can now honestly say that I could be happy with either. Imo (funds permitting) having both a good manual and a good dual clutch car is the way to go. Both different but rewarding experiences when driven appropriately.
@robertdebarge2765 жыл бұрын
The DSG is tunable without needing to change the clutch. This was my motivation for buying a DSG. I've had my share of manuals and am happy to have the DSG as a daily. The DSG shifts excellently, as well.
@wilshirewarrior27835 жыл бұрын
How about FASTER shifting?
@Osprey19945 жыл бұрын
@@KXP70 Agreed
@Osprey19945 жыл бұрын
Faster shifting, you can eat a snack and drive (not recommended), etc.
@deadlydizzle75885 жыл бұрын
I'm probably in a minority but I actually love the way the Type R looks. It's aggressive and chavtastic which for some reason appeals to the inner yob in me 😂
@FerrariKangaroo5 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, I hated it at first but it's definitely growing on me. It looks better in real life as well IMO.
@blatantlyjohn62345 жыл бұрын
Its a grower
@jaylocke95745 жыл бұрын
Minorities, Majority, I own an fk8 type r and wouldn't want it to look any other way. Those who don't get the looks, don't get the Type-R..
@jaylocke95745 жыл бұрын
@@blatantlyjohn6234 and a shower, d funny that because you never have both. You get one or the other..
@jaylocke95745 жыл бұрын
@Subi_fan All vehicles bar super and hyper cars have them. Including Subaru.. 🏁🚥🚗🚘🚜
@-DC-5 жыл бұрын
The Civic is in a different league a proper hardcore big hitter of a hot hatch.
@moneyparhar5 жыл бұрын
Its rice boy car
@DelSolTypeR19875 жыл бұрын
@@moneyparhar well.. Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements... the Type R seems to do great on track so it kind of negates your whole comment
@alainguillemette76805 жыл бұрын
I can tell that the gti tcr has way more body roll by just looking at it
@nisrrah81985 жыл бұрын
yeah i also figured that
@yaz2585 жыл бұрын
Really liking the extra stats when it comes to comparing the laptimes. You should do 60-100mph too
@SilverScarletSpider5 жыл бұрын
Slow is slow. No excuses.
@ericheadley5 жыл бұрын
And here is the kicker, you know that the Honda will be basically bulletproof for the next 10 years; the Golf.... start befriending your mechanic now.
@JFinns5 жыл бұрын
Love my Mk7 GTI Sport with manual transmission and welcome the competition from the Type R it's a beast.
@alainguillemette76805 жыл бұрын
Justin F i think by running the Mk7 GTI Sport it'll beat the Type R with very little money
@KXP705 жыл бұрын
@@alainguillemette7680 until the Type R gets a little money and blows the VW out the water by even more
@eleonik765 жыл бұрын
@@KXP70 By that time the engine of the Golf would be broken, so no need to invest..
@KXP705 жыл бұрын
@@eleonik76 what do you mean? The EA888 is very reliable.
@eleonik765 жыл бұрын
@@KXP70 You know nothing about engines. Let's start with the fact that VW didn't improve nothing from its first gen 888 and the issues with stretched timing chains, high oil consumption, etc are still same. What reliability you talking about? I seen them engines totaled in less than 100k
@philmountain92905 жыл бұрын
Surely the TCR needs testing with the 20mm lower suspension and bigger wheels/tyres etc
@richardbaker6965 жыл бұрын
Can only think performance pack 2 costs £3k in uk to include cup 2 tyres, making it much higher price than type r.
@richardbaker6965 жыл бұрын
Yeah PP is a must. Few more options and it's getting on for £40k. Like the other comments, more marketing exercise than engineering one.
@gaycha65895 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Bowen - Golf regains ground come resale time. Every time. That's the true cost
@mickpreljevic61205 жыл бұрын
Bigger wheels won't do any good for handling trough the corners. And it will increase weight.
@wanglee214 жыл бұрын
Like he said even VW has a better setup called the "Club Sport S addition" (only to put numbers on Nurburgring) but still failed to Type R. Now there is a Type R TCR so comparison
@JoeBlo25 жыл бұрын
Two seconds slower? Even with DCT and a power bump?
@flacjacket5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have the performance pack so it's kind of a silly comparo since the Type R costs way more and is on much stickier tires, with the performance pack it gets lower firmer suspension with dynamic chassis control and cup 2s which on their own would probably close most of the lap time gap.
@JD2ndcity5 жыл бұрын
@@flacjacket what's unfair about the tyres? Cup2s are a track focused tyre.
@ghostinthemachine765 жыл бұрын
flacjacket The Type R is cheaper than the TCR.
@mrcwr85235 жыл бұрын
@flacjacket If you put them both on Cup 2 tyres the CTR would undoubtedly be the faster car. Steve Sutcliffe got a 45.8 lap time round Llandow in another video for Auto Express. According to Fastest Laps, that’s quicker than the times he got in an M2 and F80 M3. It was 0.1 seconds slower than he got in a 550bhp GTR and was faster than Jethro Bovingdon’s lap time in a 991 Carrera. Not bad for a car costing from £31,550 (£33,550 for GT spec). The Golf TCR starts from £34,065 for a 3 door with no options.
@ghostinthemachine765 жыл бұрын
Mr Cwr 👍
@GHinWI5 жыл бұрын
Just hard to get excited about an automatic transmission in that class of car.
@Inspector7I5 жыл бұрын
Its not an auto...its an automated manual. Look it up
@what-jh4iq5 жыл бұрын
@@Inspector7I Semi automatic you mean? Like...paddle shifters? Still boring :| If you can't rev match and heel toe where is the fun...
@shaoyang56505 жыл бұрын
This guy is totally bias towards the gti. Said it from the start
@Shadowboost5 жыл бұрын
2 seconds is massive. You'd feel the difference of that even on the street
@mannyechaluce38145 жыл бұрын
definitely, you would be 2 second late for work, that is huge !!
@willzhi82914 жыл бұрын
Manny Echaluce sayinghonda is good hurts you too
@blatantlyjohn62345 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Honda brought out a track focused version of the Type R lol
@Chris-nw6ws5 жыл бұрын
Check out the Spy shots of a more track focused version of the type r testing around the nurburgring
@ThunderWindz5 жыл бұрын
@НАТО в шоке, США обосрались ehhh
@blatantlyjohn62345 жыл бұрын
its not tho is it@НАТО в шоке, США обосрались
@peterbennpan72885 жыл бұрын
Like a Mugen
@ld93875 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-nw6ws I'm sure it's just a facelift
@techyd84115 жыл бұрын
Quite a gap for such a short circuit...can’t help but think the tyres the golf was on probably lost it the turn-in bite it would have if it were on cup 2s... Still Honda for me, I think they are great, a proper hot hatch and I love the looks...very tempted to get one next year but we’ll see!
@lansiman5 жыл бұрын
500 pound for that ugly stickers? jeez i thought my phone was expensive
@lansiman5 жыл бұрын
Vinny Booboo 900 pounds s10 plus
@lansiman5 жыл бұрын
@Vinny Booboo i'm rocking both iphone x and s10 plus,love both
@Inspector7I5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but, at least you know from 100 ft away that is a tcr and not a average golf
@christopherthompson74433 жыл бұрын
Own the Type R what a brilliant well engineered machine, love or hate it, credit where credit is due. Well done Honda. Looks are purposely functional.
@davidhayes48145 жыл бұрын
All large manufacturers are prone to cash out retiring models, with limited editions. Given the long delay in introducing the Mark 8, this must be an even bigger temptation. The Mark 8 GTI won’t be introduced for ages. This seems to be quite poor value compared with the Golf R or even the 245 PS GTI. If it had been given an extra 100 PS and was stripped out, then it would be collectible. I can’t see this being a “must have” limited edition. A missed opportunity, perhaps?
@WeirdBrick5 жыл бұрын
Indeed but that would upset Golf R owners. I dont get this model at all, just a way of making a few extra £££! No one will remember it.
@michellecoulson63035 жыл бұрын
David Hayes Do you think this car is really good?
@john_dee14315 жыл бұрын
Good video. Personally, I think VW as a corporation was compelled to rate the power options with respect to the existing R, Clubsport, and regular GTI.
@gbej15 жыл бұрын
VW has no choice but to pitch the TCR just below the Golf R
@mikewhitehead505 жыл бұрын
power-wise, yes. on this evidence it could do with being a little sharper in the handling department though.
@Chris-tq2xu5 жыл бұрын
@@mikewhitehead50 yuo can get a Performance Pack for the TCR and i can't understand why the Testcar is without it for a Tracktest. This test is useless.
@mikewhitehead505 жыл бұрын
Chris 84 possibly because a basic TCR is already at least as expensive as the Civic. Tyres wouldn’t make up that much on such a short lap. It’s not a totally useless test.
@Chris-tq2xu5 жыл бұрын
@@mikewhitehead50 tue Performance Pack is not only Tyres. And a Tracktest without a availble TrackPack is useless and not fair in my opinion.
@jaylocke95745 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-tq2xu Not to mention that if a car ever really needed the pack it was now, going against the top dog.
@Chris-nw6ws5 жыл бұрын
Civic looks so much better then the boring old golf
@waiz02315 жыл бұрын
What are golf supposed to look like ? Mk1 ? Honda are all ugly in general
@RomaneMaticaliseGordon5 жыл бұрын
What’s the sense comparing any hatchback with the Type R? It’s always going to win. It’s just that good
@litespeed655 жыл бұрын
I really like the Honda and see the GTI as a Marketing exercise, but after owning 4 GTI's and now a Golf R, I'm over trying to squeeze a lot of HP out of the front wheels alone.
@nikb65285 жыл бұрын
Getting fed of all these GTI variations nowadays. Can't they just make a good car and call it a GTI?
@fragu1235 жыл бұрын
Great work.... as always!
@galacticmaui25 жыл бұрын
This review seems a bit biased. The reviewer seems to try hard to spin negative things about the Golf in a positive way and discredit the type R. If he prefers the VW that’s totally fine but if you are making a comparison you should minimize biases.
@charliepattinson66605 жыл бұрын
Who’s going to pay for that graphic, awful and cheap
@Kelveron5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, not great, but nowhere as scary bad as Civic's styling and its OTT spoiler!
@troyarmstrong4345 жыл бұрын
@@Kelveron is the Honda the superior car...?
@exvitermini5 жыл бұрын
The right question is who pays for group vag tin cans.
@Kelveron5 жыл бұрын
@@troyarmstrong434 Well, going by the review here, on track yes, but on road no.
@gaycha65895 жыл бұрын
tensnake bl - I do!
@parkerbee42435 жыл бұрын
Type-r still the king of hot hatches
@paulallwood60335 жыл бұрын
Can we have a Megane Rs 300 Trophy against the Civic next please Autocar???
@grantmotox1235 жыл бұрын
The golf is basically a more expensive and softer Leon Cupra then
@KXP705 жыл бұрын
Nailed it. This car is pointless.
@waiz02315 жыл бұрын
Still not as ugly as a f... Honda lol
@tasosvougiatzis3435 жыл бұрын
The honda is already classic .The prices for a used in the future will go crazy up. But nowone will remember that golf tcr gti
@ukdub5 жыл бұрын
Quite funny, more the other way around. Regardless of which is the better car, a vw golf will always be remembered before a Honda Civic
@thiccboi17265 жыл бұрын
ukdub hahahhaha hahahahah hahaha not even true
@ukdub5 жыл бұрын
@@thiccboi1726 just look at history
@OutlawRacing-k205 жыл бұрын
Μόνο honda
@vwporschefreak975 жыл бұрын
@Yann Dupuis not in europe.
@zacs57735 жыл бұрын
Love the Total Control Reference 👍🏻
@michellecoulson63035 жыл бұрын
Zac S Do you think this car is really good?
@zacs57735 жыл бұрын
Michelle Morgan Not good enough as I just cancelled my order...
@michellecoulson63035 жыл бұрын
Zac S ...You seems to be a nice person and would like to know more you outside KZbin if you don’t mind ..?
@zacs57735 жыл бұрын
Michelle Morgan Thank you Michelle but Matts a much better source of credible car reviews than I would be any day...
@michellecoulson63035 жыл бұрын
Zac S Yeah that’s nice ..can we text outside KZbin if you don’t mind..?
@quicknickdriver85105 жыл бұрын
I am your age and totally remember total control racing with those tiny cars. The type R was inevitably going to be quicker than the golf, but not necessarily more engaging, fun or comfortable on the road. But as a track car, the tcr golf seems a bit gimmicky in the shadow of club sport S. Nice video Matt, like your style
@sbaddison5 жыл бұрын
I had TCR in the late 70s / early 80s😁👍🏻
@cosminmihu99635 жыл бұрын
I bought the R and am very looking forward to it. I'm sure the driving position, engine, and gearbox are perfect. Only thing that worries me is how easy everyone says it is to drive, how the control is quite neutral. I had a Megane RS 265 and 275, and it could get quite wild at the limit. It's beautiful control and feel is what made it the most fun car i've ever driven. The Clio RS trophy I had after was disappointing in this regard.
@DelSolTypeR19875 жыл бұрын
on normal roads you will not get the type R to behave nervous unless you are wanting to break the speed limits very hard lol. On a track though and if you have plenty of skill to drive it on the edge it will behave like a ragged dog. It has a fairly high limit though so it brings some danger too.
@cosminmihu99635 жыл бұрын
@Yann Dupuis Thanks, in my country the law is "relaxed", I can drive twice the speed limit with no problem. Just need Waze.
@guillermosanchez27835 жыл бұрын
The Type-R competition was the Golf R and still didn't win. At least there is a manual version of the Golf R. What are the final prices on the street? In terms of agility, especially for the daily driver, the two seconds doesn't matter either, sporty experience while driving does, reliability does. Out of these two, I prefer the Type-R, if both cost the same, of course. The manual transmission in a sporty car makes a big difference in the driving experience. I still prefer to drive my STI rather than those two, slower or faster, I couldn't care less. Is the mechanical driving experience, that is vanishing from the sporty cars, that would make me pick the STI today. There are rumors that in the future, the STI would not come with a manual, so the situation doesn't escape even the models that seem to bring the driving experience alive, even today.
@unassailable61385 жыл бұрын
STI, lol. With that engine sitting way in front of the front axle, causing extreme understeer, you bet SLOWER.
@guillermosanchez27835 жыл бұрын
@@unassailable6138 Yes! you're right, slower. However, I wish I had learned a long time ago that numbers are not all to achieve the desired driving experience. Before buying the STI, I changed my GTI DSG for a 2015 WRX thinking that I was outsmarting any STI buyer. Fortunately, I didn't buy the STIs that Subaru sold knowing that they were unreliable, but if I would have avoided that issue, I might have been still with the car that I could have bought back at that when I bought my GTI. Again for mere numbers, there are Teslas there, but how much enjoyment this car produces, makes me think that if Subaru goes automatic in the next gen, I'll keep this one for as long as I can.
@BobK54 жыл бұрын
Is the Golf in ‘comfort mode’?
@spartanwarrior46323 жыл бұрын
Like it or not the civic type r turbo fk8 is the best hot hatch pound for pound performance car in the world. And its still got manual shifting, fwd,
@KOL6304 жыл бұрын
I just bought an older MK 7 gti after owning lots of fast French cars overs the years. It’s a great car. Definitely not as exciting as a Megane trophy by a long shot or as focused but as a daily do it all car it’s brilliant. Less exciting when you don’t want it to be and less exhausting when you do want it to be (if that makes sense!)
@MajorAMinor5 жыл бұрын
Do the Megane 300 Trophy vs the Civic please
@trubblman4 жыл бұрын
Massive shout-out for the TCR callback.
@jaylocke95745 жыл бұрын
I can count approximately three or four special edition GTI's, to have a shot at the Type-R. All have failed and done so miserably. VW should be tuning the R if they want a shot at the title. I can't see the Honda being beaten anytime soon and it has been out for 2 years. Maybe the A35. Stop with the GTI already, Honda is pooping them out it's exhaust.
@gaycha65895 жыл бұрын
Jay Locke - not reflected in the TypeR Sales figures. With Swindon closing its all over for CTR in UK
@jaylocke95745 жыл бұрын
@@gaycha6589 Sad days, I find it hard to believe this machine will not have a full cycle of development. All we will be left with will be expensive character less hyper hatches that the driver will point and shoot. I love the rawness of my R.
@KXP705 жыл бұрын
@@jaylocke9574 it may be raw compared to the supremely dull Golf R, but when I test drove the Civic I found it hugely capable but fairly tame overall. The ease and fluidity of driving it normally and fast was greater than I had expected, but it wasn't as thrilling as I had hoped it to be.
@pswmetalmonkey5 жыл бұрын
@@gaycha6589 Global sales of the CTR are epic, the Swindon factory closing has nothing to do with the sales numbers.
@piero9145 жыл бұрын
@@pswmetalmonkey Yeah I believe they're just moving production to the U.S. Everyone relax lol
@stevecuahuizo7925 жыл бұрын
I use to drive Honda’s when I was in high school .
@chrisclokey48404 жыл бұрын
I find track tests kind of pointless unless the cars are purposely built for the track, these are road cars so test them on the road. The TCR is also completely different with the lower suspension, 19" wheels an DCC fitted.
@FK_H8r5 жыл бұрын
Honda FTW.
@user-zu7hr6wh6o4 ай бұрын
For saying how relatively close the Golf can get, and it’s better ability as a daily, I’d say this is the victor. If you’re that into track drivings and still need a daily, I think there are more interesting options than the Civic (in my humble opinion)
@Timmy635 жыл бұрын
The honda sufer fron road & wind noise spetualy in high speed & the front seat has a short leg suport In a long ride you start to feel pain.
@michellecoulson63035 жыл бұрын
Tamir ahronee Do you think this car is really good?
@lewisratford29085 жыл бұрын
Driven a MK 7.5 Gti on a regular basis and it’s just so slick and brilliant at everything. Don’t be fooled though as the TCR is pretty much a bhp bump with cosmetics. The optional performance packs will still leave it trailing behind the type r. The TCR is a bit at odds with itself as wont challenge the dynamics of the R but is a lot louder and brash to what Gti owners go for. Great car though be it a bit pricy
@falcolotfi15495 жыл бұрын
Just from the start, 28..somthing hp showcased how much vw envy civic type r which continue To boast the Whole package hot hatch should has.
@ZZGTKING5 жыл бұрын
With my standard GTI, with the DCC in comfort mode, the car is actually faster on the track with less understeer compare to the sport
@KXP705 жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to whether that would change with grippier tyres
@ZZGTKING5 жыл бұрын
Kurt Phillips The balance of the vehicle can always change if you use different tires, but being gripper doesn’t mean it is definitely going to be more understeer, the car can also be more tail happy.
@longtailgt5 жыл бұрын
As much as I love the Civic, I'd have the Golf. It's the nicer car of the two, looks better and with a few minor modifications it'll be faster.
@YoureDumbForLife5 жыл бұрын
But with a few minor modifications to the Type R wouldn't that then be faster?
@matthewp90155 жыл бұрын
YoureDumbForLife Yes, but not as easy to change the looks of the Type-R as it is to get more power from the Golf.
@Shan2nu5 жыл бұрын
If not for the 7 spd dsg box, it would have been another sec or 2 slower.
@chrisgregson36265 жыл бұрын
Get someone else in front of the camera Autocar. I’ve no doubt this bloke has knowledge, talent and experience in abundance. But my god is he dull! You hear about jaded car journo’s, this is the epitome of it. Seriously cool job, would it really be that hard to look like you enjoy it?
@jamiep615 жыл бұрын
Another Great Autocar Video
@MLeeder535 жыл бұрын
no manual and slower.. hmm. might be competition for the Hyundai N not the CTR
@nikomoin76045 жыл бұрын
I take the civic just because of the manual gearbox
@ghostinthemachine765 жыл бұрын
Why would anybody buy a TCR, when you can buy a Golf R for the same money?
@lewisratford29085 жыл бұрын
It’s actually more fun ( could say that’s preference ) but agree you would really want to have a GTI rather than the extra AWD. The TCR looks the business to as the R is quite vanilla
@ghostinthemachine765 жыл бұрын
Tuco Salamanca Obviously. I was referring to the price. The Golf R is the same money.
@ghostinthemachine765 жыл бұрын
lewis Ratford You’re right, it is preference. Personally I think the R is better looking. And those optional TCR stickers are awful. But anyone wanting a GTI over an R would be mad to spend £35K +£2K for the Performance Pack. Save around £5K, buy the GTI Performance and APR it. A faster car for thousands less.
@KXP705 жыл бұрын
@@ghostinthemachine76 or if you want a similar car for less, without tuning >>>> Leon Cupra
@ghostinthemachine765 жыл бұрын
Kurt Phillips Good shout 👍🏻
@petercavellini32325 жыл бұрын
Yes, all this proves that the Civic is faster handles a shade better and so on, but most of us wouldn’t drive our cars like this because it wears them out faster, there’s the potential for a life threatening event, and, are you really going to play chase me on the road every time you see a type R?
@dlombana1615 жыл бұрын
Some of us go on track though...and considering how quick it was for MK7s to give my CTR a point by, the difference is even more massive on a bigger track. I'm not saying everyone lives on the track everyday but consider this. You have a very good daily and STILL can have more fun than allowed on track whenever you choose, as opposed to a fun daily is just that...and kind of understeers everywhere the few opportunities where you really get to test its limits. I's a bit deflating as an owner...I've been in that situation before.
@ctsteve91995 жыл бұрын
No, because it's not worth doing, both for us and for the potential danger to others, I know and they know that in this class with a clear road and a competent driver the Type R will win, why bother? Just sit back and smile,
@m3rilla5 жыл бұрын
I own track ready Ep3 and standard fn2
@m22_media955 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video apart from the unnecessary camera angles during the hot laps. Just need the forward facing camera.
@ironworker33304 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose between the two I would definitely take the Honda.
@dskribe95985 жыл бұрын
Now if only the dealers in my part of the world weren't asking $51k USD for a Type-R, I would have bought one. Settled for an SI instead and saved $20k+ in doing so. What are these dealers thinking?!?! $50K for a 300hp hot hatch?!?! No.
@dylanburger2175 жыл бұрын
I know they are ruthless! You've got to shop all over the country if you want an R, I was lucky I knew my dealer so I got mine just over MSRP with minor goodies like tint thrown in.
@piero9145 жыл бұрын
That's nuts. Are you in Cali? I'm from NYC and I got mine for MSRP.
@dskribe95985 жыл бұрын
@@piero914 Even worse, Southwest Florida. Every single dealership around me has the R's priced at $50k+.
@piero9145 жыл бұрын
@@dskribe9598 A few dealers by me wanted the same, but then eventually I found a dealership that was sane. Enjoy your Si. Great car.
@dskribe95985 жыл бұрын
@@piero914 Exactly! I am really happy with my SI and with the all the money I saved, it might be time to invest in some aftermarket toys! Enjoy your R! :)
@danilorodriguez46655 жыл бұрын
Great video, more comparison please
@tedtheturbot5 жыл бұрын
Please can you keep a POV cam inset so as to be able to see how she moves throughout the lap?
@ARTaken0075 жыл бұрын
They didn't test the Golf with better diff tires and suspension. They put it up against the TypeR with better tires
@kwokyinay5 жыл бұрын
@autocar Which car in this category is most fun? Is it the megane rs or the i30n or m140i?
@horsti81395 жыл бұрын
The Golf looks 1000 times better...:)
@WeirdBrick5 жыл бұрын
It looks like a boring golf! Some will like that but no one will notice it or even give it a second glance.
@willywilson96835 жыл бұрын
It's slow
@horsti81395 жыл бұрын
still looks better
@lukegodfrey93915 жыл бұрын
Looks are subjective
@timeggenheimer77315 жыл бұрын
The golf looks like an EP3. Honda was doing it almost 20 years ago.
@sharvan4565 жыл бұрын
I would like a comparison between the Civic Type R and the Golf R.
@NeillyVille5 жыл бұрын
I'd still take the Golf R, thanks
@troyarmstrong4345 жыл бұрын
No T
@gaycha65895 жыл бұрын
I did
@JosipM3335 жыл бұрын
Every where is 2second hmmmm.. strange or not???
@gumerdominguez40915 жыл бұрын
Josip M you know it’s biased it’s the same number total bs👍
@imtheonehero93055 жыл бұрын
Butt hurt fanboy?
@imtheonehero93055 жыл бұрын
@@gumerdominguez4091 butt hurt fanboy?
@dantem3065 жыл бұрын
I think they should have given the GTI the is38 turbo from the golf R/TTRS.
@giuseppealejandrolicci36374 жыл бұрын
VW GTI IS THE QUEEN! ABSOLUTELY! Please don't joke at "taxi driver" in this short circuit: mayby is the Luna Park circuit?!! I never seen the record time lap of Honda Type r on the Nurburgring Nordshleife or in Imola in the last 3/4 months. In THE NURBURGRING or IMOLA CIRCUITS I remember all the times only The record lap of VW GTI TCR or R: THE QUEENS! What else!!! GOLF GTI or R all the times! Ciao from Italy
@paullockwood72195 жыл бұрын
But the Golf doesn't look like Sonic the Hedgehog. I do love the Type R though. Great car if you're 25 and loaded.
@douglasmillar75603 жыл бұрын
with a sunroof... odd in a supposedly sportier gti
@gumpy49605 жыл бұрын
So what exactly is the point of yet another golf gti variant and why would anyone buy it over the other gtis or golf r
@krys88705 жыл бұрын
Probably even Golf R will be slower than Type R on track, if not standing start. Honda beats many on famous race tracks.
@cuprashoe5 жыл бұрын
Around a track it would be, the Golf R would beat the Type R off the line though
@jamesbuckingham775 жыл бұрын
I don't get why it's called a Golf TCR when it looks nothing like a TCR car. It's like Honda releasing another Type R without any rear wing, flared arches, vents or spoilers and calling it a BTCC edition.
@moham12875 жыл бұрын
GTI without an option for a manual. What a joke VAG have become.
@KonBlo4 жыл бұрын
About 1" faster was Steve Sutcllif in the same car (fk8 Type R) on the same track.
@SpeedGmail5 жыл бұрын
Type R still hard to look at. Unless you are spending lots of time on the track, the GTI will be my choice
@SpeedGmail5 жыл бұрын
I tend to know what I am sitting in and if its ugly I would still know :-)
@SpeedGmail5 жыл бұрын
@@layne4376 If you rely on someone/something to make you feel like a king you are not a king :-). BTW, its just my opinion, the car is ugly in my eyes but I am not denying that driving the car may be fun.
@gaycha65895 жыл бұрын
Outdoor Layne - and then you cant wait to get rid of her next day. Or you cringe if you run into her when out with friends? Yep, thats CTR. Like shagging a fat lass, or riding a moped. Great fun until you are spotted
@jaylocke95745 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedGmail long live the brutally mentally mad and ballistic FK8. I love you just the way you are..
@jpm4085 жыл бұрын
I didnt like the rear in pictures until I drove behind one in traffic...IMO it looks really good.The wings looks fine. The styling fits its aggressive performance!
@haniefnoor4033 жыл бұрын
Thats a tcr model, not the standard version,
@robertl28565 жыл бұрын
Great item thanks
@MzwandileHarmans5 жыл бұрын
Honda Civic type r is the best front wheel drive hot hatch and there is no other. It most reliable too
@mjozic37855 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you use the performance pack that’s the only thing that differences from the rest of the golf range....!!!
@jessek99855 жыл бұрын
If you think the Gti has a lot of body roll you should try taking my Jimny through a round about lol, Seriously though in my 1.4L Golf TSI I never knew what body roll felt like, Then I bought a Jimny.
@scollyutube5 жыл бұрын
Dunno if is important but Civics 6th gear is same as golf's 5th. It's way low geared which is great on race track but not so good for every day use. 2400 rpm at 60mph is annoying
@chawenhalo00895 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the TCR compares to the 40th Anniversary...
@semperf1dude5 жыл бұрын
TCR the toy racing game was great
@petercavellini32324 жыл бұрын
The Golf is so far behind is because it’s just not digital enough, the Honda has loads of tech helping it to be a better drive, the problem for VW is, the Gti is already a dear car, and to add the tech to solve it overall driving problems, it would be expensive, and that’s the problem, lots of other brands have come up with Gti bashing cars for around thirty grand, VW can’t just bank on the iconic status of the Gti anymore.
@JMB18915 жыл бұрын
Golf is more expensive, and then you have to spend an extra £3000 to get the optimal package... I just can’t see the appeal with the other hot hatches available for less money.
@niceshot45635 жыл бұрын
VW needs to stop fuckin around and crush the competition with a 6 cylinder turbocharged engine in a golf.
@limpunsing2245 жыл бұрын
Blah blah blah Type R is far marvelous engineering in its class
@RishabhThingalaya5 жыл бұрын
Han Solo dies in endgame
@sparkplug9645 жыл бұрын
For the money you should be getting the 19" and performance pack as standard, TCR seem to be a bit of a gimmick if you ask me.
@brunobegic38415 жыл бұрын
Every single car on this planet is beautiful when you compare it to that civic...
@johnwade10955 жыл бұрын
What the Golf is crying out for is a big ass wing, neons, and slamming. It's the only reason anyone will be looking at it.